Ventrac Flail Mower VS Tough Cut VS Finish Cut
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2021
- With several different mower options that Ventrac has to offer, we get a lot of questions to which one best fits my application. In this video we go over the all new Flail mower, the long lasting, top selling, tough cut mower, and the side discharge 72" finish mower all in the same application. There are several other mowers to choose from, these just being some of the most commonly used and sold. Andy (Ventrac territory Rep) gives us a walk around of each unit, explains its uses and best application and we put them to the test.
Let us know which one you use and if you have any questions in the comments below. If there is an attachments you would like to see more of or a review on please let us know below as well! We hope this helps and gives some direction in choice of mower.
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I love seeing these side by side in the exact same application. Really helps to distinguish which is right for me.
Thanks Terence! Appreciate that and glad it helps!
They did not do side by side. They did not use the flail on the stuff in that dish with the brush and saplings and they didn’t even show the close up of the job it did. Lame comparison
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Now this is the BEST damn review I've seen yet!A demonstration that leaves NO CONFUSION!Shows EXACTLY what you're getting with each attachment,Ilove it!Thanks guys!
Awesome! Thanks Booker! Glad it helps and is clear. We appreciate the comment!
booker uzzell. its a heck alot cheaper then a holder c70 tractor wich is $150,000
Really? Did it show how the flail mower did on the brush?
Man that tough cut is something else!
Now that's what I call a marvellous review !
Well much appreciated for sure N Pet!
Wow guys, great comparison video. Aerial shots of all 3 sections at once is terrific. Glad I watched
Hey Jake, thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
Nice video Andy! Good to see you at the GIE EXPO. You didn’t tell me that you could lay some mean stripes with the Ventrac. 💯
Great side-by-side comparison to see comparative processing quality. Fast cut flail was surprisingly fine, I liked that!
Thank you and thank you for the comment!
Thanks for display. Now to find The used ventrac for what I need.
That was a well done informational video. Thank you very much.
Hey Mike, much appreciated and glad it helped! Hope to have more coming in the future!
Thanks. This helps me understand what would work best for my situations.
Glad it helped! Thanks for the comment.
great video you made up my mind to get the finish mower and the tough cut.
Thanks for the comment and glad we could help! Great choices!
Such a versatile tractor. Really cool.
great piece of equipment thanks
I removed my message out of respect to the OP video maker. He did a great job with the Video.
My 4500z hasn’t been trouble free. I bought mine a few weeks before the 4520 came out. Then had issues that left me very frustrated and almost 2 season of partial use. Thankfully, all seems ok so far. I do wish I was offered the flail to replace my finish mower after seeing my issues but… that where a good dealer comes in. This video was spot on. Ventrac is a great product. It’s upper crust for sure for home owners. We have 100 yards of 26 degree slope that 20 feet tall, all finish grass. The - huge area of jungle that a tough cut would be great. One day!
Thank you! Sorry your experience wasn’t great with the 4500 and the finish mower. Hope everything is going smooth now. We appreciate your words and understand frustration but even more so your comments!
Good demo bc it addressed some of my questions.
Thanks for the comment! Glad it helped.
The fast flail was just right for this grass, though the finish deck left nice stripes.
Good stuff guys.
Thanks!! Appreciate the comment! Nice work on your videos as well! 👍🏻🤛🏼
Man I bet if you put some Kavli Finisha blades on the finish deck it would do even better. Great comparison of all 3!
Well Done!
merci pour la video
Great job providing very important information for a potential buyer. I compared a fast cut flower to a tough cut a few weeks ago in really high thick hay. The Tough Cut was barely moving along but the Fast Cut Flail probably tripled the Tough Cuts speed and cut much cleaner. But for really rough rocky terrain with high woody material the Tough Cut is definitely the right weapon.
Thanks for the comment and input! Glad we could help and appreciate your response! Much agreed, that flail can make the job a bit faster and cleaner in those applications! :)
Hey! I know both of these guys! Great job on this!
Hey Jeff! Ha thanks man!
I totally agree. I got the hydraulic tilt on my tractors and totally worth it. For maintenance and if anything gets fouled in there
When I enquired if Ventrac had a flail mower they indicated they didn't need one. However, this flail mower doesn't do what other flail mowers do. That is take down grass, and small trees leaving a fine material behind.
Thanks for the comment! They actually offer 2 different ones and with different teeth. This was the fast cut, the fine cut would do a little more of which you are talking about. We are glad they decided to bring it to market.
Can you get heavy duty blades and use them on the fine cut mower.
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Wish you guys could get some dealers in Southwest Missouri
You should have even included your other mower types like the 95 inch version or the one with the reels just to really show the difference in all your different types of mowers instead of just 3 only but nonetheless thanks for the video.
Hey thanks for the comment and for watching. Yeah that is a good idea. We want to do some more comparison videos like this in the future so that is a good idea now that the MK960 is out in the mix!
Really nice video. Thank you. For a very steep hill that we want to mow 3-4x per year (in PA) would you recommend the Flail deck or the Bush deck and would you add caster wheels or not?
Thank you for the comment! We would say if it is thick and builds up quick maybe that flail, but if it’s just thick grass and your mowing that often we would say the tough cut would be the best options for what your saying. They actually come with the front wheels as well. Thanks
Thank you. I was getting frustrated because I did not see the comparison like that from corporate.
I must say this. Lifting those decks up like that can be very risky for a low back severe injury.
Didn’t I see a new lift video somewhere? Thank you once again!
Hey thanks for the comment!! Yeah those decks are quite heavy, but they do offer a hydraulic deck lift on just about all mowers. And yes you did- Ventrac just came out with the new tough cut mower with that!
@@BeverageTractor Thanks again and keep up the great work ethic for those coming up behind us.
Can you change the blades on the flail mower?
Like change them from the Y to the flat blade?
Thanks for the comment. They make one with a scoop knife and one with the Y knife. Just depends on what your application is and what finish you are looking for. Hope that helps. Thanks!
1:54 - missed sales point: the roller also serves to provide better flotation and all but eliminates scalping.
Thanks James for the comment. That is a great add!
@@BeverageTractor - anytime! I'm just down the road from you guys, just outside of Wytheville. I'm glad to see you guys have held it together through these economic challenges. Hopefully things will pickup soon.
@@driverjamescopeland Oh awesome that is good! Thanks. Yeah we are hoping for things to get back to normal, I think we are still in it a little longer unfortunately, but in due time! If we can ever help with anything at any of our locations please let us know! Thanks again.
What do you recommend for Hilo Hawaii orchard which has tall grass and is always wet. Rains a lot here. Would love to be able in the rain if possible.
Hey Ray, thanks for the comment. In our opinion for your application the tough cut mower would most likely help the best. The flail would do good too, but think the tough cut would do the best for this application in our opinion. Hope that helps. Thanks again!
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Thank you for info as explained, could you please offer quotation for export the attachment 3 type to me? (DDP) My country is Thailand. Thank you.
Would love to have seen the MK960 here.
Yeah I think we are going to work to do a video of its own. Have a few new ideas with some new tractors and equipment coming out. As you know with inventory shortages this past year we were lucky to have all 3 of these at the same time. Thanks for the sub as well! :)
How much cheap equipment could i go through before i get to 30 grand. Lots.
How well do they handle on hills and slopes?
Exactly what they are made for! They do just as well on flat grown as they do on hills and slopes. Throw some dual wheels on and able to go 30 degree hills. Thanks for the comment and hope that helps!
Does the flail mower cut up saplings and what size sapling
Thanks for the comment. It does and Ventrac recommends 1/2" (www.ventrac.com/products/attachments/mwmy). Thanks!
personally if you are to get the tough cut I would get the hydraulic deck for ease of moving the deck in case of a stump
Hey Wyatt thanks for the comment. Yeah much agreed, the hydraulic flip up on any of the mowers that it is offered on is a really nice add on. Especially for ease of maintenance and cleaning out. Thanks!
Two passes with the finish mower would have that hay field looking like a yard.
You guys need to get a dealership in Southwest Missouri
Hey George, appreciate the comment. Hey you never know… maybe one day! 😃 Thanks.
Could you use the flail mower then finish mower? Just wondering if that would be a proper way.
Yeah you could. You could use the fine cut one and then go over with finish to get that clean cut. It may take a time or two to really get it groomed, but once cut down and maintained it would look good!
@@BeverageTractor Thanks!!
I just have a very small pasture that is relatively flat but can be very thick, weedy & sometimes rocky in places. It's less than 2 acres. What size Ventrac would you recommend & what type mower?
We would say we could look at several options and different types of equipment for you, but if you are thinking a Ventrac specific we would say the 4520P Kawasaki with the rough cut mower would be the best option for you. Especially if it’s thicker and lots of weeds. Hope that helps. Are you located near us in the Shenandoah valley Va at all? Happy to help or come take a look to see what would best fit your needs if so. Thanks.
@@BeverageTractor are you located at the Blacksburg facility?
@@cherylshepherd5602 We do have Ventrac at our Blacksburg location. You can reach out to any of the salesman down there and they are happy to help. 540-315-3440
These sold in the US? I find it so hard to find anything Forsale new
Hey, thanks for the comment. Yes they are! Inventory has been pretty slim this past year but has gotten a lot better! Where are you located? We would love to help if we can. Thanks!
@@BeverageTractor TX 2 hr away from SAN
The ventrac is the Daddy
Is a great machine, expensive but good.
Now if only they'd add a cab to the Ventrac. :)
They actually do have a cab for it and it’s quite nice!! This video shows it as well in action with snow, but the model is a KW452.
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@@BeverageTractor I'm sure the people up north really appreciate that. I live in the south and was looking for some a/c. Now that I see that one, I don't think it would be worth the loss of how much of an incline it could handle with the weight added so high on the machine.
@@justinrumbley3665 understandable. It is great for winter.We are in VA so our snow isn’t like those up north either where this is sold and installed more frequently. As far as weight and hills you are right, it would change that, although still can do amazing compared to other options. But..yes just like any tractor that has a cab makes that center of gravity and weight of tractor different. All about your application and what is best! Thanks for the comment and conversation
A tractor with a trimax flail would rip through that effortlessly also at a much greater speed , but I can see this ventrac machine has it uses
How much for everything?
Thanks for commenting. We would suggest reaching out to your local dealer for pricing and availability. If that is us here in VA. Please give us a call and we are happy to help!
Andy looks like he wants to shove one of those mowers where the sun don't shine.
High thick grass you cannot beat a flailmower...period....
The belts always break on these machines. We have one for a golf course and we will be returning it
Bummer and sorry to hear that. Thanks for the comment. We don’t typically tend to see too many issues with the belts on these. Since they are belts they do break but nice they can be replaced and have one or two on hand. I would check with your local dealer, if it’s that bad, they may be able to help in all of that for sure!
Interesting, my Ventrac is 4 years old with over 1200 hours with most of those hours using the contour mower (many belts) and I've never replaced a single belt.
Belts have not been an issue for my Ventracs, however we tore thru them on the Steiners the 430 s eat belts compared to the Ventrac. There could be an alignment issue with the double idler pulley or an operator not using it properly overloading the attachment.
What’s the price of this tractor 🚜
Hey Candace, thanks for the comment. We encourage people to reach out to their local dealers for pricing and availability of equipment. Where are you located? Happy to help how we can. Thanks!
@@BeverageTractor Walterboro,SC
@@candacebenton9618 ok great. If you go to this link and type your location in, it should give you a few options of dealers that may be closest to you! www.ventrac.com/dealers. Hope that helps!
Flail FTW!!!
My problem with this tractor is pto or lack off
Thanks for the comment! We understand. Which tractor do you have? Depending on applications and use, some engines can do better than others. There are a few options on engine selection and we usually try to help recommend the best for the application and use it will be in!
@@BeverageTractor thank you for replying i like the idea of the tractor id love to see the option of a rear pto that i could use the implements i already have but as it stands with just a belt drive and lack of options it makes the tractor a 1 trick pony
@@noelcahill6707 thanks for your reply. You can get 3pt hitch kit for implements but of course no PTO. The front mount, with a ton of implement options and a wide variety of tools makes this one of the most versatile tractors on the market. But one thing we like about Ventrac is that they are always open to suggestions and making changes and perfecting their product! :)
@@BeverageTractor the lack of a rear pto would put me off buying it
@@noelcahill6707 I understand. I would say if you need the rear PTO and that’s mainly what you would need a tractor for, then a regular 4WD tractor would ultimately be best option for your application/needs. The Ventrac is very versatile and brings opportunity especially for those hilly terrains. We are Kubota dealer as well, so I can understand what you mean. There is a difference between the 2 and their uses and what they are designed to do for sure! Thanks again for the conversation! :)
1-й трактор лучше, перемалыват даже сухие ветки в труху. Нужно только снять трубу и снизить скорость. 2-й и 3-й сломает ножи.
1-й даже куски асфальта для него не критичны.
2-й и 3-й большой вынос ножей по закону рычага ножи сломаются и возможны травмы рикошетом. Фильм Газонокосильщик - это про них.
Pay someone to bush hog that lot=$100....Ventrac with mower=$30,000
I get $250 an acre minimum in San Diego more if taller than my knee
Now show them how the goddamn tires pop after you use the rough cut on anything more than grass.
$35k mower…goes over anything…good up to 1” diameter….8 flat tires.
destroying habitat....