@@aurelia8028 so you like corporations and big government breathing down your neck watching every movement, and more than 50% of workers feeling unsatisfied due to a lack of genuine impactful work? bro keep living in ignorance, contributing to the death of nature, individuality, and human creativity. the chances are high you provide nothing genuine to this world, and you're not even a gear but the grease in the machine
What if the Neolithic Revolution never happened? We'd all be nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers. No alternative history, in fact, no history at all, because no writing. :P
The Unknown Don't forget wild starchy roots and tubers, grass seeds, wild honey, fish, clams, crabs, shrimp, snails, locusts, whatever happens to be available and edible.
The Unknown Most children dying before their 5th birthday. Most of those who live long enough to grow up dying before the age of 60. There are still places on this planet where that's quite common.
The Unknown They usually wouldn't attack an able adult human though, just children and elderly people. And humans would stick together in groups most of the time, keeping their young and old people safe. As long as there is easier prey than humans, there isn't much danger, except from a few individual predators with a taste for manflesh. And those can be identified and killed. Remember, we co-evolved with African predators, and as soon as you can organise a group and make flint-tipped spears, you can kill enough of them to make the survivors look for different prey. You might lose a few thrillseeking adolescent boys and young adult men hunting down the man-eaters, but later generations of predators wouldn't be as likely to hunt humans. A single human, however, or a small number of mostly children and/or old people, would attract predators, and therefore, situations like that were avoided by sticking together. Once the predators know that it isn't safe to get too close to a human tribe, you can be pretty safe just by singing and dancing around the campfire at night, to show off your presence and your strength. Every once in a while, one of your people will get eaten, well, bad luck. You'll have more children killed by sickness or hunger than by predators. A lot more. And you'll still have population growth as long as there is enough fertile land to be explored. Once the Neolithic Revolution takes hold, predators become a huge problem: Sheep, cattle, chickens, pigs, all those are much easier to prey on than their wild ancestors. That's why farmers always want to hunt all the predators to extinction, and to hell with the ecology. Now we have human hunters trying to regulate wild animal populations as good as we can (which means, badly), because we're the only apex predators left. We've got far too many deer and wild boars here in Germany, because the few dozen wolves living in a few locations just can't take care of them. Yet farmers keep shooting or poisoning wolves, even if they might go to prison if they're caught.
Well, no, actually. Mechanics were already a thing for centuries, and happened everywhere. But actual machines and industrialization basically only existed in Europe for a while and came to exist because of the bad living conditions: after the black plague in the 14 century it regularly returned so there was quite a bit of population lack. People needed machines to do the work, as there weren't people to do so. And before we knew it...Boom industry.
it could be possible to focus more on the mechanization of agriculture than on industry so that a farmer could produce with machines more food and he does not need the support of animals and other humans. or somewhere in teh 19th century the ordinary people overthrow their "capitalist" elites and run the fabrics and the economy by tehmselves
Not if you have a cheap enough labour force that would result in mechanisation not being worthwhile economically. It happened mostly because the cost of labour in England became weirdly high and subsequently replacing that labour force became a handy plan. This video's biggest problem is that it forgets that.
Can't really say they're collapsing. It gets old after people kept saying for decades, it's like saying the apocalypse will happen, then it doesn't happen.
@@os8mm178 dude china is booming right now have you seen pictures of it they look like every stock photo of a futuristic city minus the flying cars its sick
A huge factor sort of glossed over here, is that the initial need for coal was driven by a need for fuel for fireplaces and furnaces because agriculture had cut down most of the trees in england. So, the initial spark was actually resource scarcity imo
OMG PERFECT TIMING!!!!! We are just starting the Industrial Revolution in school and I can use some facts you state to show off to the class :D no hour-long documentaries this chapter!
My guess is that countries would have remained less stable, including the United States. Because of the vast distance, it would have been much easier for a Union to break up or change structurally. However, I still imagine an age of sail, just not an age of colonization.
the mysterious Not really. See, before industrialization, there was no way to produce more food to feed a growing population as much as we have today. There also wasn’t a free market that could address shortages via trade. The state owned everything. Whenever a state started lacking in resources, which was all the time, the only solution was to concur another territory and extract its resources. This led to frequent collapse of kingdoms, no matter how long lived they were. Frequent collapse is the opposite of stable.
@@DakkogiRauru23 and yet the Roman Empire and Egyptian kingdoms lasted for millennia, not quite a series of "frequent collapses". There are no rules to history that happen 100% of the time if certain conditions are met.
The world would be a better place... it's not even Iran's fault, people in Iran today seem to love their country as the Islamic Republic, but it's just Iran's crazy relationship with, well, everyone else... Iran and America hate each other so much it makes the situation in the Middle East a lot more difficult.
awakeningspirit20 well who's fault was it then that cause the coup de that that created the unnecessary monarchy in iran in the first place to pissed off the iranians then?
Also guys, when you talked about the UK in the year 1760 you used the wrong flag, the Union Flag wouldn't have had the red stripe over the white stripes since that didn't occur until the Act of Union of 1801.
***** There was an Act of Union in 1707, but it was the one that unified Scotland and England, not Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Union flag was born in 1707, but it didn't have the saltire of St Patrick(the red 'x' running over the white 'x') until 1801.
Do a: What if the Portuguese never explored the world? Could europe be discovered by the Indians or Chinese? Or even by the Astecs? How the world would have been nowadays?
There wouldn't be a Tordesillas Treaty, meaning the world wouldn't be divided between Castille and Portugal. Since Portuguese domain in Brazilian coasts was legitimized by this treaty, and Castille's discovery of the Americas had more to do with Columbus getting information from Aragonese fishermen, I believe that would result in Spaniards total control of South America and the Caribbean. The stablishment of trading points in India and China are a whole different topic. I imagine any European potency would have arrived sooner or later.
+FantasticMr.Fox Not really that much, if nothing changed every home would burn coal/wood for heat and not use electricity wich would be almost the same if not more hurtfull for the environment
+FantasticMr.Fox the environment would be safer, the population wouldn't be happier. you are referring to global warming, a thing, don't pretend it can have feelings. (also, fossil fuels are going to be replaced hopefully soon, pretend the earth has entered it's teen years and started smoking like crazy, but then the e-cig (or something else) happened in a few years... that. or young death :P)
I seriously just had a huge conversation about this two days ago and Cody and I said the EXACT SAME STUFF. This is so cool. It's awesome hearing support on how realistic an alternative scenario is.
+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression MY NAME IS COOL CAT AND I LOVE ALL KIDS I LOVE BABIES THEY'RE PAINTING ON SOMEONE'S WALL AND IT'S NOT COOL TO PAINT ON SOMEONE'S WALL
What if MacArthur used nuclear weapons on the Chinese during the Korean War? The USSR at the time had very few nuclear weapons and the Chinese had absolutely none, so I don't think a nuclear apocalypse would be likely.
Hey AlternateHistoryHub! Being an Armenian, I've always been fascinated by everything Armenian, specifically their wars. Just in case you didn't know (which I highly doubt), Turkey, and Armenia have sort of been in a feud. In the early 1900's, due to religious differences and jealousy, over a million Turkish-Armenians were massacred in an unrecognized genocide. I was wondering: -What if the Armenian Genocide never happened? I know for a fact that Adolf Hitler actually brought up the Armenian Genocide to convince people on how no one would realize the Jewish people would be exterminated, and I'm sure a lot more would have happened if the genocide never took place. Since the Armenian Genocide remembrance day is this coming April 24th, I was hoping you could possibly make a video about it. Sincerely ~A random internet person
exactly right, The Assyrians and Greeks heck even the Armenians never rebelled against the ottomans and were basically murdered for no reason other than being Christians, the fact that the turkish government today denies the existence of these genocides means these pieces of shit in power are no different than the ottomans
+Rob Ski You want another bright side ?? No capitalism. Wealth would remain balanced in all classes, and generally, employance would not be such a problem, meaning that no man would be starving. Also, since colonisation is absent, Africa would remain untouched and nobody would take its resources, meaning that you wouldn't have children in Africa starving. Cultures rarely meet, globalisation would not even be a thing, ammunition would not have been made in such ammounts, ideas would not spread and people would revolt much less, meaning that, generally, there would be less wars and less bloodshed. I also belive that, even without medicine, people would not die or be sick from diseases that much, because people travel much less without modern transport, and so, diseases themselves would have hard time spreading. And yes, we would have healthier people and safer enviroment, because, besides global warming, air pollution that has strong effect on pulmonary diseases (asthma, bronchitis, even lung cancer) would be absent. There would be no drugs, because they wouldn't be able to travel from distant parts in Asia and South America. There would be no tobacco, too, reasulting in, again, healthier population. I see a brither world without Industrial Revolution.
Samsung Galaxy Good points. Although I think the tobacco trade began before the industrial revolution. And I think our life expectancy would be much shorter and our health care system would be a total joke by today's standards.
+Rob Ski Yah you're right, I said it wrongly. Sure, there would BE tobacco, but it wouldn't be able to TRAVEL so quickly without steamboats and trains.
Kalyan Arc without the industrial revolution the agricultural revolution wouldn’t progress as much and there would be much less food so there would still be a lot of starvation when disasters struck
As an avid communist myself, I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. The future of communism would be far different if Lenin's final wishes to put Trotsky in charge of the USSR were respected.
It would probably just become wedded to the West and America after the Marshall plan rained money on it like in our time line with West Germany. The Soviet Union would have a wall on the border of Poland, not Germany.
@@wampower6848 there probably wouldn't have been a wall at all. There was no wall in East Germany, but East Berlin, which was far beyond the East German border. Berlin is on an island. So it's much easier to wall off than an extensive 290 mile border. That being said they actually got close. 2 walls both roughly 82 miles. Maybe they could have done it if enough Poles defected, but certainly not overnight.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
Yeah, Under capitalism we are all slaves to desire, Saving up for the next new toy is the only thing that keeps us going. I don't want mindless consumption anymore, I just want to be happy. . .
Working hours would be shorter than today and so is life expectancy. Value of life increases relative to today's and thereby a shorter living but happier society. Also no climate change to battle and thereby no massive extinction of life and destruction of environment in an unprecedented scale.
what if public education was outlawed by government (today) and all those who sought education had to pay businesses or craftsmen to teach them skills, much like guilds and apprenticeships during renaissance.
I think you should do something about if an industrial revolution happened on the 1st century. There was actually a Greek scientist screwing around with a miniature steam engine IN THE 1st CENTURY! cool
It should be remembered that for most of the period of the Industrial Revolution, the majority of industries still relied on wind and water power as well as horse and man-power for driving small machines. In which case, without steam engines, there still technically would have been factories, just not steam powered ones. Instead they would have been sophisticated wind and water mills, as well as solar updraft engines like the one first proposed in 1903 by the Spanish Colonel Isidoro Cabanyes. There may have also been mills powered by geothermal steam vents, hence steam mills. Not to mention concepts like “Division of labor” and “Assembly lines” would still be applied. In short, mass production would still be possible.
So it seems like it was simpler but more culture in individual areas and some atrocities such as African colonization and the horrible conditions factory workers faced were prevented sounds good to me. Although there would also be the absence of modern medicine but the obesity epidemic would be avoided.
Could you cover another WW1 scenario? Mainly what if "Halt in Belgrade" occurred and Austria-Hungary was able to mobilize fast enough to invade and occupy Belgrade after the death of Archduke Ferdinand. Also this video was amazing, thanks for making it and collaborating with List 25!
+Hugh B.B I heard that the industrial revolution could have happened several centuries earlier in China. But one of the key elements was missing. There is no water in the chinese coal mines so, no need for a steam engine. If it did happen the worl woul be quite different.
The biggest reason why Britain was the started the industrial revolution was the removal of the Commons. This forced most of the rual community to move to urban areas in order to survive, which increased the available labour pool for factories
Enjoyable intro and context, great setting of baseline (what WOULDN'T have happened without the Industrial Revolution) but I wish we had some takes on what WOULD have happened instead. Though that is incredibly more speculative.
I've spent most of my spare time today, viewing your entertaining vids. Personally, I love studying alternate history by playing God-games - like Civilization. Being Scandinavian, I always play Viking. And I sometimes use my longboats to colonize the America's. This actually happened, but in our timeline the colonies were abandoned. So here's my proposition: WHAT IF... The Vikings extensively colonized the America's ? And held on to their colonies?
Industrialization is the reason you’re on your phone right now. Industrialization is the reason you have roof over your head and you don’t have to worry about dropping dead from just a cut. Industrialization is the best thing to happen since sliced bread
@@Frozo-nt2ky Industrialization is the reason we are slowly killing the planet. Industrialization is the reason why people are so unhappy today. I would gladly trade my phone and house for a happy life on a farm, if I didn't know what a phone was I couldn't wish I had one
@@pixel6698 “happy life on a farm?” Do you even know what industrialization did? It brought us modern medicine first of all. If you’ve ever had an infection in your life you can thank the Industrial Revolution for that. I can assume you have a nice life with a roof over your head and a good intake of food. Good luck getting that in the late 1600s. Not only that but slavery was rampant and you may very well have been sold off into another country to be tortured or forced to work.
@@Frozo-nt2ky Yes I understand that a lot of good came with the Industrial revolution, however I believe it came far too quickly. The rapid development and industrialization has led to consequences the human race is still facing today. Colonialism and Imperialism was greatly pushed by the Industrial revolution and wars became insanely brutal because of it. Industrial Society is also a massive issue. Humans have been forced out of our natural communal groups into cities. We have gone from towns where everybody knew each other to massive cities where some don't even know their neighbors. It is one of the main reason people today are suffering from mental health issues. Industrialization is killing this planet. Trees are being cleared to make way for factories, plastic is ending up in the ocean, the air is being polluted, all to make a profit. Humans have a tendency to not think about long term consequences and I believe the Industrial Revolution has demonstrated this well.
@@pixel6698 don’t act like the world wasn’t brutal before industrialization. In fact right now is the safest time to be alive, apart from Covid bringing the number down a little bit. Lifespan has increased from 20-30 years old to nearly 80 in most developed countries. Prior to the revolution it was not uncommon for the mortality rate of newborn babies to be as high as 75%. You probably don’t grasp just how bad it was back then and how privileged you are to live in such a good world now. Of course you glossed over the whole slavery and racism part, which you really shouldn’t
What if China maintained its Imperial rule during the 19th and 20th century? Would have it fallen eventually or stay afloat as a major power? God i love this channel!
You left out an important aspect of UK prosperity: colonization. The British lived in their own shit and could barely figure out how to use chimneys before the Portugese provided a model for colonization. Exploiting, raping, murdering, and stealing from indigenous peoples of the Americas, as well as kidnapping people from West Africa and forcing them into labor, enabled vast agricultural advancements in food production and enabled economic flexibility and scientific patronage. So yeah... the Industrial Revolution happened on the backs of Indigenous people and enslaved Africans. Also, Industrial Revolution has been the primary historical contributer to the climate crisis. Though, I enjoy the comforts that came from it... maybe, in an alternative universe, maybe without colonization of America and Africa and India... maybe someone could have invented industry with renewable resources... who knows? India was incredibly technologically advanced and experimentative. The earliest surgeries beyond trepanning happened in India. Many parts of Africa, like the Mali empire and the Benin Kingdom, were advanced as well. They invented Iron working before anyone else on this planet. The Aztec and Mayan Empires were artistically advanced and experimentative. Also, in the 13th century, in what is known today as Iraq, a great inventor was born: al-Jazari, known as the father of robotics. His automata were able to run on gear mechanics and water energy. No oil or coal needed. Maybe if these regions formed an alliance, with many of their belief systems bound by a connection with the earth rather than a Dominion over it (like cough cough Christianity), a better system could have been created that would have taken us into the modern world in a much healthier way. Be more creative next time. Also, you do know that history doesn't revolve around White people, right? Europe didn't save the world. It sadly, very possibly, doomed the world. I hope that you have grown in the past six years. As a White person who grew up in the US education system, I have been incredibly sheltered, conditioned by ideas of White Supremacy. I am still undoing this conditioning and becoming better. I hope you are too.
Ellin Bastas nah, faster. We'll start in around 10-15 years building up to it (2020 for moon colonies and 2025 colonies on Mars +-5 years), the other important things as planetary language, culture etc - would probably take about 30-40 years more (2050-2060 imo, where English, Russian or Chineese would become the dominating language in the world). However, if we speak about culture regardless of language - well, we already have a nice, fun and exciting mix all around the globe of pretty similar ideas working together to create something unique. Like hey, try looking at modern anime, that has a lot of story elements and character development on the same levels as western and slavic classics. Economy is a diffrent thing. While US does its good share of poking the fuck out of every country that is not an ally or doesn't have powerful allies - I have to admit, that in terms of unification that is a GOOD thing. It's nowhere good on its own and all of those 147 countries that suffered from US in the last ~70 years have their respective right to be angry about it, but still a work well done and deserves a slow clap. So for the economy - it's already unified in a way, that a country - doesn't really need to try gathering the most money, but instead doing it's best to balance import and export for a stable development. Well, apart from some examples, but again - nowhere near to the 1970-1980's situation for that matter. Why 200 years then? Well, we have an interesting situation going on in the world currently. On the one hand - NATO with military approach to unification. On the other hand EU with an economical approach. BRICS with economical and technologial alliance. G7 (can't get enough of lols from that tho; throwing out 1/6 of the Earth's surface is such a nice diplomatic step) with political approach. We have LOTS of organisations around the globe. Some - work like shit. Most work like shit for that matter (take a look at UN or OSCE for instance). So there will be more time spent on pulling the rug in different directions. But meh, I'm just a Russian, who lives in Europe, speaks three languages and loves history, culture and tries his best to understand the processess running around the globe. Just a part of an insanely large group of similar people with similar stories, that in NO WAY support everything I've just said by their example ;D.
Breathing in the dark, lying on its side The ruins of the day painted with a scar And the more I straighten out, the less it wants to try The feelings start to rot, one wink at a time Oh-oh, forgiving who you are, for what you stand to gain Just know that if you hide, it doesn't go away When you get out of bed, don't end up stranded Horrified with each stone on the stage, my little dark age Picking through the cards, knowing what's nearby The carvings on the face say they find it hard And the engine's failed again, all limits of disguise The humor's not the same, coming from denial Oh-oh, I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange You know that if it hides, it doesn't go away If I get out of bed, you'll see me standing all alone Horrified on the stage, my little dark age Giddy with delight, seeing what's to come The image of the dead, dead ends in my mind Policemen swear to God, love seeping from their guns I know my friends and I would probably turn and run If you get out of bed, come find us heading for the bridge Bring a stone, all the rage, my little dark age I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age All alone, open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age
@albert einstien What do any of those examples have to do with the suggested scenario? If anything all those examples are more similar to the Holy Roman Empire in its divided form. If you want a relevant example from the period then France is the obvious choice. There were the French Wars of Religion around Catholicism and Protestantism, but also if Germany (let's say the non-Italian part of the HRE) had been more unified, then Protestantism might not be as successful as that's where it started and initially picked up traction. Of course the Holy Roman Emperor (when it actually was an empire) had a habit of fighting with the Pope a lot, so it's just as plausible that a Holy Roman Empire might go Protestant instead, and Protestantism is even more successful. There's a lot that would change and it depends on how this scenario comes about, for much of modern European history the defining thing about Germany was its disunity, and it was the place the great powers fought their wars in Europe.
My guess is that the world would just eventually die out. Humans would go extinct. Diseases and other issues would soon become overwhelming, and the population would start to die out in various parts of the world. (Good that this didn't happen lol)
@@darshparikh1555 People could develop in natural medicine and hygiene and live somewhat healthy. But with these industries our life is not only separated from nature, but we also depend on some monstrous gray buildings that we pay to give us food and heat. Humans are barely independent...
I feel like there's a sort of post-industrial regression today. You talk about local farmers producing for locals back before industrialization... well, look at today and the localvore movement. It's like we're fleeing from industrialization. I think it would be neat if we eventually get to a point that returns us to the artisanship of pre-industrialization with the ease of industrialization. Where those local farmers really can produce for locals efficiently and healthily. Where industrial farming is phased out. Where we don't produce simply for the sake of doing so and reaping a profit, but strive to produce what we need and effectively. This would be a great future.
@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в how would I die in my 20s? In a war? The "enlightenment" was still before the industrial revolution, dumbass, so they didn't levy people anymore.
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So basically...we would stay in pre-industrial technology. Surprise.
What an idea, why didn't I think of that
No thank you. I like everything about the modern world and no amount of whining about the enviroment will make me give that up
@@aurelia8028 Hahaha nobody talked about that
Yeah exactly. Why did he almost didn't tackle on the topics of the actual things that happened in the world and wouldn't because of the Revolution?
@@aurelia8028 so you like corporations and big government breathing down your neck watching every movement, and more than 50% of workers feeling unsatisfied due to a lack of genuine impactful work? bro keep living in ignorance, contributing to the death of nature, individuality, and human creativity. the chances are high you provide nothing genuine to this world, and you're not even a gear but the grease in the machine
What if the Neolithic Revolution never happened? We'd all be nomadic tribes of hunter-gatherers. No alternative history, in fact, no history at all, because no writing. :P
The Unknown
Don't forget wild starchy roots and tubers, grass seeds, wild honey, fish, clams, crabs, shrimp, snails, locusts, whatever happens to be available and edible.
elfboi523 Then what the hell are cave paintings other than history, thus writing...? A good point otherwise, though.
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Most children dying before their 5th birthday. Most of those who live long enough to grow up dying before the age of 60. There are still places on this planet where that's quite common.
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They usually wouldn't attack an able adult human though, just children and elderly people. And humans would stick together in groups most of the time, keeping their young and old people safe.
As long as there is easier prey than humans, there isn't much danger, except from a few individual predators with a taste for manflesh. And those can be identified and killed.
Remember, we co-evolved with African predators, and as soon as you can organise a group and make flint-tipped spears, you can kill enough of them to make the survivors look for different prey. You might lose a few thrillseeking adolescent boys and young adult men hunting down the man-eaters, but later generations of predators wouldn't be as likely to hunt humans. A single human, however, or a small number of mostly children and/or old people, would attract predators, and therefore, situations like that were avoided by sticking together.
Once the predators know that it isn't safe to get too close to a human tribe, you can be pretty safe just by singing and dancing around the campfire at night, to show off your presence and your strength. Every once in a while, one of your people will get eaten, well, bad luck.
You'll have more children killed by sickness or hunger than by predators. A lot more. And you'll still have population growth as long as there is enough fertile land to be explored.
Once the Neolithic Revolution takes hold, predators become a huge problem: Sheep, cattle, chickens, pigs, all those are much easier to prey on than their wild ancestors. That's why farmers always want to hunt all the predators to extinction, and to hell with the ecology. Now we have human hunters trying to regulate wild animal populations as good as we can (which means, badly), because we're the only apex predators left. We've got far too many deer and wild boars here in Germany, because the few dozen wolves living in a few locations just can't take care of them. Yet farmers keep shooting or poisoning wolves, even if they might go to prison if they're caught.
That sounds like America after the 2016 election.
Only 1700s and 1800s kids will understand this.
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i understand it
Only them
+Job J Born in 1793 and raised in the 1800's
+Job J
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But wait! Wasn't industrial revolution inevitable? Wouldn't machines be built eventually?
-Billy
Well, no, actually. Mechanics were already a thing for centuries, and happened everywhere. But actual machines and industrialization basically only existed in Europe for a while and came to exist because of the bad living conditions: after the black plague in the 14 century it regularly returned so there was quite a bit of population lack. People needed machines to do the work, as there weren't people to do so. And before we knew it...Boom industry.
it could be possible to focus more on the mechanization of agriculture than on industry so that a farmer could produce with machines more food and he does not need the support of animals and other humans. or somewhere in teh 19th century the ordinary people overthrow their "capitalist" elites and run the fabrics and the economy by tehmselves
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Gosh darn it billy
Not if you have a cheap enough labour force that would result in mechanisation not being worthwhile economically. It happened mostly because the cost of labour in England became weirdly high and subsequently replacing that labour force became a handy plan. This video's biggest problem is that it forgets that.
Well the industrial revolution could've happened in ancient Greece but the dude who invented the steam engine (Aeolipile) gave up on it.
Basically, we would live like the Amish.
Yup.....
Fuck no
+Michael Hyams HHHHHHIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS
+Herp a Derp exactly, fuck no.
+ShooterdoesMC Boss AWWWW FUCK NO!
"Faster and cheaper than in China" not something that will ever happen again
Can't really say they're collapsing. It gets old after people kept saying for decades, it's like saying the apocalypse will happen, then it doesn't happen.
No labor laws means cheap production
Will now lol
@@os8mm178 dude china is booming right now have you seen pictures of it they look like every stock photo of a futuristic city minus the flying cars its sick
A huge factor sort of glossed over here, is that the initial need for coal was driven by a need for fuel for fireplaces and furnaces because agriculture had cut down most of the trees in england. So, the initial spark was actually resource scarcity imo
Industrial society and it's consequences
OMG PERFECT TIMING!!!!! We are just starting the Industrial Revolution in school and I can use some facts you state to show off to the class :D no hour-long documentaries this chapter!
Not so great timing for me bc we just finished the chapter on development in AP human geography. ):
bobtheflyingdonkey :/
I just finished my section on it :(
+bobtheflyingdonkey AP US History is already deep into the Cold War for me so....fuck...
same here
My guess is that countries would have remained less stable, including the United States. Because of the vast distance, it would have been much easier for a Union to break up or change structurally.
However, I still imagine an age of sail, just not an age of colonization.
Large kingdoms existed way before industrialization
Like mughal empire in India
the mysterious Which collapsed
@@DakkogiRauru23 yes because of many things happening at right time but there are many that succeeded tho
American kingdom could've been one
the mysterious Not really. See, before industrialization, there was no way to produce more food to feed a growing population as much as we have today. There also wasn’t a free market that could address shortages via trade. The state owned everything.
Whenever a state started lacking in resources, which was all the time, the only solution was to concur another territory and extract its resources.
This led to frequent collapse of kingdoms, no matter how long lived they were.
Frequent collapse is the opposite of stable.
@@DakkogiRauru23 and yet the Roman Empire and Egyptian kingdoms lasted for millennia, not quite a series of "frequent collapses".
There are no rules to history that happen 100% of the time if certain conditions are met.
What if Gunpowder was never invented?
Yes! This is an amazing idea! :D
What if Britain never colonized American
Brendan Fligger that was already done
Brendan Fligger What if There was no pollution.
American revolutionary war would have been fought with bow and arrows.
What if Persia (Modern-day Iran) never converted to Islam?
The world would be a better place... it's not even Iran's fault, people in Iran today seem to love their country as the Islamic Republic, but it's just Iran's crazy relationship with, well, everyone else... Iran and America hate each other so much it makes the situation in the Middle East a lot more difficult.
awakeningspirit20 well who's fault was it then that cause the coup de that that created the unnecessary monarchy in iran in the first place to pissed off the iranians then?
we would fight against Zoroastrism as the Greek and Romans did
@rétro that comment was 1 year old why did u even bother to correct him?
They have a splinter group form of Islam so in a sense they never had true Islam in iran
Also guys, when you talked about the UK in the year 1760 you used the wrong flag, the Union Flag wouldn't have had the red stripe over the white stripes since that didn't occur until the Act of Union of 1801.
17?0-1860
Illium What?
I'm pretty sure it happened in 1707
***** There was an Act of Union in 1707, but it was the one that unified Scotland and England, not Ireland and the United Kingdom. The Union flag was born in 1707, but it didn't have the saltire of St Patrick(the red 'x' running over the white 'x') until 1801.
+Kyle Edwards Talk when you're sure not pretty sure.
Do a: What if the Portuguese never explored the world? Could europe be discovered by the Indians or Chinese? Or even by the Astecs? How the world would have been nowadays?
Or if Portugal was united with Spain and never left from the middle ages onwards.
India and China already knew Europe before Portugal, they were trading back in Roman times. Do you mean the Americas?
awakeningspirit20 yeah your right because In 100 c.e (a.d) the Indians had been in the Silk Road along with the Chinese
Somebody would take their place probably the Spanish or the French, maybe the Hanseatic cities or Venetians will be their rivals
There wouldn't be a Tordesillas Treaty, meaning the world wouldn't be divided between Castille and Portugal. Since Portuguese domain in Brazilian coasts was legitimized by this treaty, and Castille's discovery of the Americas had more to do with Columbus getting information from Aragonese fishermen, I believe that would result in Spaniards total control of South America and the Caribbean. The stablishment of trading points in India and China are a whole different topic. I imagine any European potency would have arrived sooner or later.
well, the environment would be happier for sure......
Probably
+FantasticMr.Fox Not really that much, if nothing changed every home would burn coal/wood for heat and not use electricity wich would be almost the same if not more hurtfull for the environment
+FantasticMr.Fox the environment would be safer, the population wouldn't be happier. you are referring to global warming, a thing, don't pretend it can have feelings. (also, fossil fuels are going to be replaced hopefully soon, pretend the earth has entered it's teen years and started smoking like crazy, but then the e-cig (or something else) happened in a few years... that. or young death :P)
Farming really impacts the environment. Animals fart methane, and agriculture take lots of space, replacing forests, plains, jungles, etc.
+I ItsJustNils I no wrong.
Perfect timing. I have one week to write a college paper about the Industrial Revolution, gonna steal your stuff. Thanks bra
This video title: *exists *
Ted Kaczynski: hold my pipe bomb
I seriously just had a huge conversation about this two days ago and Cody and I said the EXACT SAME STUFF. This is so cool. It's awesome hearing support on how realistic an alternative scenario is.
"...how society changed so quickly and in such a quick amount of time..."
Does "quickly" mean anything other than "in a quick amount of time"?
no
Michigander here. We may go to war with Ohio for many other reasons, but in the pop vs. soda battle, we and our buckeye brethren fight as one.
My dad won't even buy Ice Cream if it's made in Michigan
Not liking having list25 on this....
Why
Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression thats really going to help kids from crippling depression
+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression Seriously, fuck off.
+Cool cat saves the kids From crippling depression MY NAME IS COOL CAT AND I LOVE ALL KIDS
I LOVE BABIES
THEY'RE PAINTING ON SOMEONE'S WALL AND IT'S NOT COOL TO PAINT ON SOMEONE'S WALL
+Sharqueesha Johnalaneesha *IHE
What if MacArthur used nuclear weapons on the Chinese during the Korean War? The USSR at the time had very few nuclear weapons and the Chinese had absolutely none, so I don't think a nuclear apocalypse would be likely.
Yass, do this timeline.
Please do this
oh god yes. please do this
@@beans11138 he already did it i believe
Cody “Just doesn’t happen” Alternate History
What if Britain sided with the central powers in World War One?
Yes
Very unlikely, yet intriguing nevertheless.
+Brandoosky well if Germany never went through Belgium we probably would of
+Shrek Dank *have
Unlikely just because they had a few wars against the US and France wouldn't make them not side which us
"Without steam engines, factories are left dependent on rivers to turn their turbines. Like Barbarians." I laughed.
Hey AlternateHistoryHub!
Being an Armenian, I've always been fascinated by everything Armenian, specifically their wars. Just in case you didn't know (which I highly doubt), Turkey, and Armenia have sort of been in a feud. In the early 1900's, due to religious differences and jealousy, over a million Turkish-Armenians were massacred in an unrecognized genocide. I was wondering:
-What if the Armenian Genocide never happened?
I know for a fact that Adolf Hitler actually brought up the Armenian Genocide to convince people on how no one would realize the Jewish people would be exterminated, and I'm sure a lot more would have happened if the genocide never took place.
Since the Armenian Genocide remembrance day is this coming April 24th, I was hoping you could possibly make a video about it.
Sincerely
~A random internet person
Here's a link explaining it all: www.armenian-genocide.org/ottoman.html
Turks still don't recognize it to this day, so sad. Yes I believe the genocide inspired both Hitler and Stalin.
Death shall come in droves good idea!
Ps. Love the username!
Everytime you said Armenian, I read American
exactly right, The Assyrians and Greeks heck even the Armenians never rebelled against the ottomans and were basically murdered for no reason other than being Christians, the fact that the turkish government today denies the existence of these genocides means these pieces of shit in power are no different than the ottomans
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On the bright side global warming wouldn't exist and the environment as a whole would be a lot cleaner.
+Rob Ski You want another bright side ??
No capitalism. Wealth would remain balanced in all classes, and generally, employance would not be such a problem, meaning that no man would be starving.
Also, since colonisation is absent, Africa would remain untouched and nobody would take its resources, meaning that you wouldn't have children in Africa starving.
Cultures rarely meet, globalisation would not even be a thing, ammunition would not have been made in such ammounts, ideas would not spread and people would revolt much less, meaning that, generally, there would be less wars and less bloodshed.
I also belive that, even without medicine, people would not die or be sick from diseases that much, because people travel much less without modern transport, and so, diseases themselves would have hard time spreading.
And yes, we would have healthier people and safer enviroment, because, besides global warming, air pollution that has strong effect on pulmonary diseases (asthma, bronchitis, even lung cancer) would be absent.
There would be no drugs, because they wouldn't be able to travel from distant parts in Asia and South America.
There would be no tobacco, too, reasulting in, again, healthier population.
I see a brither world without Industrial Revolution.
Samsung Galaxy Good points. Although I think the tobacco trade began before the industrial revolution. And I think our life expectancy would be much shorter and our health care system would be a total joke by today's standards.
+Rob Ski Yah you're right, I said it wrongly. Sure, there would BE tobacco, but it wouldn't be able to TRAVEL so quickly without steamboats and trains.
+Samsung Galaxy Good points but then we're forcing ourselves to be blissfully ignorant. No future or past, who knows, maybe it's a good thing.
Kalyan Arc without the industrial revolution the agricultural revolution wouldn’t progress as much and there would be much less food so there would still be a lot of starvation when disasters struck
I cannot imagine two more different youtubers making a collab together, but it somehow worked, so props to you
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a major catastrophe for the human race... ~ Teddy K.
This Teddy K guy sounds like an idiot
@@Frozo-nt2ky he was a mathematical genius.
If the Industrial Revolution never happened,there would be no dank memes,and there would be no reasons for me to exist.
Born too late to explore the earth. Born too early to explore the galaxy. Born just in time to browsr dank memes.
This actually sounds a lot nicer than real life
Poor transportation logistics and medical tech slowly progressing sounds like a lot of fun for you, I bet.
@@RedSunUnderParadise yes. Yes it does liberal
@@eduardsusai559
Another Hippie luddite being wrong.
"Thank you good King jolly jolly what what" had me laughing. Seriously though, this was an interesting one..
I have a suggestion.
What if Leon Trotsky took power after lenin died (not Stalin)?
As an avid communist myself, I wholeheartedly support this suggestion. The future of communism would be far different if Lenin's final wishes to put Trotsky in charge of the USSR were respected.
@@CatMaster90001 comrade🚩⚒
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that question is answered in the video ''What if Stalin never rose to power?''
What if, at the end of WW2, Germany wasn't split, and instead was a single, neutral country left to its own devices?
It would probably just become wedded to the West and America after the Marshall plan rained money on it like in our time line with West Germany. The Soviet Union would have a wall on the border of Poland, not Germany.
@@wampower6848 there probably wouldn't have been a wall at all. There was no wall in East Germany, but East Berlin, which was far beyond the East German border. Berlin is on an island. So it's much easier to wall off than an extensive 290 mile border.
That being said they actually got close. 2 walls both roughly 82 miles. Maybe they could have done it if enough Poles defected, but certainly not overnight.
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.
Everything you said is wrong.
9:22
"less people around to talk to"
sounds good to me
We would all be happy and content
Yeah, Under capitalism we are all slaves to desire, Saving up for the next new toy is the only thing that keeps us going.
I don't want mindless consumption anymore, I just want to be happy. . .
Then the creepy Valve-in-back-of-head guy from the intro to steam games wouldn't exist.
Basically we wouldn't be choking on air
Working hours would be shorter than today and so is life expectancy. Value of life increases relative to today's and thereby a shorter living but happier society. Also no climate change to battle and thereby no massive extinction of life and destruction of environment in an unprecedented scale.
what if England won the 100 years war instead of France?
Actually, the 100 Years War was a draw, neither country won.
SomeRandomHetalian Oh yeah my mistake. I just thought France won because they took back France from England.
Okay okay sorry *Hands in air, backing away*
what if public education was outlawed by government (today) and all those who sought education had to pay businesses or craftsmen to teach them skills, much like guilds and apprenticeships during renaissance.
@James what the hell does that mean? France held the line the entire time in WW1. and then theres the french resistance.
This is basically the future Thomas Malthus was afraid of.
Here in the civilised world, we call it 'fizzy drink', or 'fizz' for short.
I think you should do something about if an industrial revolution happened on the 1st century. There was actually a Greek scientist screwing around with a miniature steam engine IN THE 1st CENTURY! cool
I would LOVE that video!!!!
+Steve Chadwarz The Greeks also invented an early analog computer. Ever heard of the Antikythera?
+Elvesflame I have! It was found in a ancient ship, wasn't it?
Steve Chadwarz Yup, at the bottom of the sea
2:13 who noticed that Chinas character had really small eyes 😂😂😂
It should be remembered that for most of the period of the Industrial Revolution, the majority of industries still relied on wind and water power as well as horse and man-power for driving small machines. In which case, without steam engines, there still technically would have been factories, just not steam powered ones. Instead they would have been sophisticated wind and water mills, as well as solar updraft engines like the one first proposed in 1903 by the Spanish Colonel Isidoro Cabanyes. There may have also been mills powered by geothermal steam vents, hence steam mills. Not to mention concepts like “Division of labor” and “Assembly lines” would still be applied. In short, mass production would still be possible.
Ah yes, this is what shaped our modern technological world
So it seems like it was simpler but more culture in individual areas and some atrocities such as African colonization and the horrible conditions factory workers faced were prevented sounds good to me. Although there would also be the absence of modern medicine but the obesity epidemic would be avoided.
Could you cover another WW1 scenario? Mainly what if "Halt in Belgrade" occurred and Austria-Hungary was able to mobilize fast enough to invade and occupy Belgrade after the death of Archduke Ferdinand.
Also this video was amazing, thanks for making it and collaborating with List 25!
Miners gathering coal: 😃
Minors gathering coal: 😨
Love how 80%of the video isn't about the actual alternate timeline.
Probably one of my favorite of your videos. Keep it up!
What if the Cold War never happened?
Post-singularity
9/11
I think he did a video on that.
The hot war would have happened.
+CatMan XD
What if the industrial revolution happened 100 years earlier
we'd be more advanced now probably
+Hugh B.B I heard that the industrial revolution could have happened several centuries earlier in China. But one of the key elements was missing. There is no water in the chinese coal mines so, no need for a steam engine. If it did happen the worl woul be quite different.
The biggest reason why Britain was the started the industrial revolution was the removal of the Commons. This forced most of the rual community to move to urban areas in order to survive, which increased the available labour pool for factories
"The agricultural society and its consequences have been a disaster for our society" - Ked Taczynski
Cody you should do "What if the industrial revolution happened in China first?"
Nothing changes
either way they would still be the most industrial country today
+Eli Gutman I watch European news
+Starkiller ....usa is number one.
If the industrial revolution had never happened I wouldn't exist.
What if the AlternateHistoryHub channel Never existed?
World War 3
Powered by Steam.
I'm immortal
Another Stalin which one is imposter!?!?!?!?!?!?
@@os8mm178 early among us player
Enjoyable intro and context, great setting of baseline (what WOULDN'T have happened without the Industrial Revolution) but I wish we had some takes on what WOULD have happened instead. Though that is incredibly more speculative.
I've spent most of my spare time today, viewing your entertaining vids.
Personally, I love studying alternate history by playing God-games - like Civilization.
Being Scandinavian, I always play Viking. And I sometimes use my longboats to colonize the America's.
This actually happened, but in our timeline the colonies were abandoned.
So here's my proposition:
WHAT IF... The Vikings extensively colonized the America's ? And held on to their colonies?
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Industrialization is the reason you’re on your phone right now. Industrialization is the reason you have roof over your head and you don’t have to worry about dropping dead from just a cut. Industrialization is the best thing to happen since sliced bread
@@Frozo-nt2ky Industrialization is the reason we are slowly killing the planet. Industrialization is the reason why people are so unhappy today. I would gladly trade my phone and house for a happy life on a farm, if I didn't know what a phone was I couldn't wish I had one
@@pixel6698 “happy life on a farm?” Do you even know what industrialization did? It brought us modern medicine first of all. If you’ve ever had an infection in your life you can thank the Industrial Revolution for that. I can assume you have a nice life with a roof over your head and a good intake of food. Good luck getting that in the late 1600s. Not only that but slavery was rampant and you may very well have been sold off into another country to be tortured or forced to work.
@@Frozo-nt2ky Yes I understand that a lot of good came with the Industrial revolution, however I believe it came far too quickly. The rapid development and industrialization has led to consequences the human race is still facing today. Colonialism and Imperialism was greatly pushed by the Industrial revolution and wars became insanely brutal because of it. Industrial Society is also a massive issue. Humans have been forced out of our natural communal groups into cities. We have gone from towns where everybody knew each other to massive cities where some don't even know their neighbors. It is one of the main reason people today are suffering from mental health issues. Industrialization is killing this planet. Trees are being cleared to make way for factories, plastic is ending up in the ocean, the air is being polluted, all to make a profit. Humans have a tendency to not think about long term consequences and I believe the Industrial Revolution has demonstrated this well.
@@pixel6698 don’t act like the world wasn’t brutal before industrialization. In fact right now is the safest time to be alive, apart from Covid bringing the number down a little bit. Lifespan has increased from 20-30 years old to nearly 80 in most developed countries. Prior to the revolution it was not uncommon for the mortality rate of newborn babies to be as high as 75%. You probably don’t grasp just how bad it was back then and how privileged you are to live in such a good world now. Of course you glossed over the whole slavery and racism part, which you really shouldn’t
Times like this is why I say a race was superior
Still a bigot
What if China maintained its Imperial rule during the 19th and 20th century? Would have it fallen eventually or stay afloat as a major power?
God i love this channel!
+Salokin Sekwah He already did the russian revolution and the hannibal thing.
+papajack222 Thanks!
You left out an important aspect of UK prosperity: colonization. The British lived in their own shit and could barely figure out how to use chimneys before the Portugese provided a model for colonization. Exploiting, raping, murdering, and stealing from indigenous peoples of the Americas, as well as kidnapping people from West Africa and forcing them into labor, enabled vast agricultural advancements in food production and enabled economic flexibility and scientific patronage. So yeah... the Industrial Revolution happened on the backs of Indigenous people and enslaved Africans. Also, Industrial Revolution has been the primary historical contributer to the climate crisis. Though, I enjoy the comforts that came from it... maybe, in an alternative universe, maybe without colonization of America and Africa and India... maybe someone could have invented industry with renewable resources... who knows? India was incredibly technologically advanced and experimentative. The earliest surgeries beyond trepanning happened in India. Many parts of Africa, like the Mali empire and the Benin Kingdom, were advanced as well. They invented Iron working before anyone else on this planet. The Aztec and Mayan Empires were artistically advanced and experimentative. Also, in the 13th century, in what is known today as Iraq, a great inventor was born: al-Jazari, known as the father of robotics. His automata were able to run on gear mechanics and water energy. No oil or coal needed. Maybe if these regions formed an alliance, with many of their belief systems bound by a connection with the earth rather than a Dominion over it (like cough cough Christianity), a better system could have been created that would have taken us into the modern world in a much healthier way. Be more creative next time. Also, you do know that history doesn't revolve around White people, right? Europe didn't save the world. It sadly, very possibly, doomed the world. I hope that you have grown in the past six years. As a White person who grew up in the US education system, I have been incredibly sheltered, conditioned by ideas of White Supremacy. I am still undoing this conditioning and becoming better. I hope you are too.
dude you deserve more subs
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+4formsofMATTer Lol
+4formsofMATTer You sir, are the oddest Bernie Sanders supporter I've seen yet. And I've seen quite alot on the internet.
I was drinking a dr pepper when he said the part about drinking a pop lol. It caught me off guard.
It will be 8 billion by 2025
wrong
The common Brit was living in poverty. The only Brit with money were the aristocrats.
I get the best screen shots from this guy's videos
I prefer this timeline.
Episode idea: what if we became a type 3 civilisation
type 3?
+Drake Darkstar interstellar.
+Занудный Лис that's a goog theory to think about,in my opinion we will become type 3 someday...
Ellin Bastas nah, faster. We'll start in around 10-15 years building up to it (2020 for moon colonies and 2025 colonies on Mars +-5 years), the other important things as planetary language, culture etc - would probably take about 30-40 years more (2050-2060 imo, where English, Russian or Chineese would become the dominating language in the world). However, if we speak about culture regardless of language - well, we already have a nice, fun and exciting mix all around the globe of pretty similar ideas working together to create something unique. Like hey, try looking at modern anime, that has a lot of story elements and character development on the same levels as western and slavic classics.
Economy is a diffrent thing. While US does its good share of poking the fuck out of every country that is not an ally or doesn't have powerful allies - I have to admit, that in terms of unification that is a GOOD thing. It's nowhere good on its own and all of those 147 countries that suffered from US in the last ~70 years have their respective right to be angry about it, but still a work well done and deserves a slow clap.
So for the economy - it's already unified in a way, that a country - doesn't really need to try gathering the most money, but instead doing it's best to balance import and export for a stable development. Well, apart from some examples, but again - nowhere near to the 1970-1980's situation for that matter.
Why 200 years then? Well, we have an interesting situation going on in the world currently. On the one hand - NATO with military approach to unification. On the other hand EU with an economical approach. BRICS with economical and technologial alliance. G7 (can't get enough of lols from that tho; throwing out 1/6 of the Earth's surface is such a nice diplomatic step) with political approach. We have LOTS of organisations around the globe. Some - work like shit. Most work like shit for that matter (take a look at UN or OSCE for instance). So there will be more time spent on pulling the rug in different directions.
But meh, I'm just a Russian, who lives in Europe, speaks three languages and loves history, culture and tries his best to understand the processess running around the globe. Just a part of an insanely large group of similar people with similar stories, that in NO WAY support everything I've just said by their example ;D.
***** Estonian :). Studying German and Chezh at the moment just for personal funsies, but I'm too lazy to give that proper amounts of time xD.
"They upload a video every 200 years on a wide range of fascinating subjects"
- a ytp i saw about this
Ted k wouldn’t have to be based.
What if Napoleon succeed in his plan to invade Great Britain?
+1'd; good idea.
He'd immediately run back to France on first sight of Scotland.
the anime code geass happens lol
One of these days, can you please do a video on What if Rome Industrialized?
What if nations had no borders?
Shit would happen.
there would be more than two world wars
also shittons of imperialism
Most of Europe ignores borders and its mostly fine - exception of UK of course
Wonder if we time travelled back to that time and gave them clean electricity, would the earth ne cleaner today, or still the same
It would not be. You gave them the technology but they do not have the technology to produce it. Thry would go to coal.
This was great, love it
what if we still tought earth was flat
AXEL VISSERS I would guess nothing......we woukd still carry on normaly just knowing that its flat. Please correct me if im wrong :)
PCn00bGAMEZ thx
AXEL VISSERS no problem!
AXEL VISSERS Kyrie Irving still does
We never did: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth
Industrial revolution and its consequences
Breathing in the dark, lying on its side
The ruins of the day painted with a scar
And the more I straighten out, the less it wants to try
The feelings start to rot, one wink at a time
Oh-oh, forgiving who you are, for what you stand to gain
Just know that if you hide, it doesn't go away
When you get out of bed, don't end up stranded
Horrified with each stone on the stage, my little dark age
Picking through the cards, knowing what's nearby
The carvings on the face say they find it hard
And the engine's failed again, all limits of disguise
The humor's not the same, coming from denial
Oh-oh, I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange
I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away
If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone
Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age
I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange
You know that if it hides, it doesn't go away
If I get out of bed, you'll see me standing all alone
Horrified on the stage, my little dark age
Giddy with delight, seeing what's to come
The image of the dead, dead ends in my mind
Policemen swear to God, love seeping from their guns
I know my friends and I would probably turn and run
If you get out of bed, come find us heading for the bridge
Bring a stone, all the rage, my little dark age
I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange
I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away
If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone
Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age
All alone, open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age
wut?????????????/
What if the Holy Roman Empire managed to centralize itself so it could be one united German nation
@albert einstien What do any of those examples have to do with the suggested scenario? If anything all those examples are more similar to the Holy Roman Empire in its divided form. If you want a relevant example from the period then France is the obvious choice.
There were the French Wars of Religion around Catholicism and Protestantism, but also if Germany (let's say the non-Italian part of the HRE) had been more unified, then Protestantism might not be as successful as that's where it started and initially picked up traction. Of course the Holy Roman Emperor (when it actually was an empire) had a habit of fighting with the Pope a lot, so it's just as plausible that a Holy Roman Empire might go Protestant instead, and Protestantism is even more successful. There's a lot that would change and it depends on how this scenario comes about, for much of modern European history the defining thing about Germany was its disunity, and it was the place the great powers fought their wars in Europe.
Would the mass trade of the Silk Road continue
Hahaha I love how he uses the umbrella terms "Billy" and "Jimmy" to describe his viewers
What if the Sino-Soviet Split never happened?
I personally think it would be much better
My guess is that the world would just eventually die out. Humans would go extinct. Diseases and other issues would soon become overwhelming, and the population would start to die out in various parts of the world. (Good that this didn't happen lol)
@@darshparikh1555 People could develop in natural medicine and hygiene and live somewhat healthy. But with these industries our life is not only separated from nature, but we also depend on some monstrous gray buildings that we pay to give us food and heat. Humans are barely independent...
@@moldova7857 ikr
Like yeah, You wouldn't slave away with some immoral company or anything with this world
I feel like there's a sort of post-industrial regression today. You talk about local farmers producing for locals back before industrialization... well, look at today and the localvore movement. It's like we're fleeing from industrialization. I think it would be neat if we eventually get to a point that returns us to the artisanship of pre-industrialization with the ease of industrialization. Where those local farmers really can produce for locals efficiently and healthily. Where industrial farming is phased out. Where we don't produce simply for the sake of doing so and reaping a profit, but strive to produce what we need and effectively. This would be a great future.
*INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY*
There's a Ted Kaczynski joke here somewhere...
Great videos I love all of them!
I have a suggestion: what if the 1960's vision of the future was correct.
Basically the Fallout series
I don't want to set the world on fire...
“Who has over 2 million subscribers”
Modern day viewer: He did it, that crazy son of a bitch did it
It's self-explanatory.
Whoever can control the waterways and is good with horses dominates.
We would become a utopia
Where you would die in your 20's, is that utopia?
@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в how would I die in my 20s? In a war? The "enlightenment" was still before the industrial revolution, dumbass, so they didn't levy people anymore.
@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в да, вопросы? Жизнь наполненная жизнью, а не соевым существованием, действительно лучше.
@@IkarosDC К тебе у меня вопрос получше - что ты в интернете забыл тогда?