It's not an AI rejecting 90% of claims. It's a program that was written by someone to reject 90% of claims. It's done on purpose and by slapping AI to it just means you can deflect blame.
Wow this feels so strange system, here in Finland we (citizens) don't pay If we can't afford. And only about 40-90€ per dental/hospital visit in most cases. In Spain I got free treatment as non-citizen
Hell, ai tells you what medications or operations you should get. Yeah this is just greed. Of course were probably at the point where insurance cant afford to pay out everyone, but that is the fault of the game between the business of insurance and healthcare of raising costs to max out profits over losses. Our system is broken. There are things we can be capitalistic on, luxury or leisure items. Fundamental rights to life items like healthcare, homes and food, should not be subject to capitalization. America needs to wake up, and we need to change this stat. People are dying or suffering permanent damage every minute we delay.
The New York mayor had no reason to make an example of Luigi on TV being escorted in chains because now he’s a martyr to the public because of that stunt.
Sociopath CEOS pay lobbyists to convince corrupt politicians to pass legislation that makes it legal for their corporation to engage in antisocial and sociopath business practices which injure and kill. What recourse do ordinary people have, when our representatives, represent corporations, instead of the people? To the politicians, CEOS, and establishment we are expendable, collateral damage! Citizen justice is the only option! Those who defend and support the psychopath CEOs engaging in these antisocial business practice will become their victims. Because it's a big club and you aren't in it, you and I aren't in the big club!
The Robin Hood Effect-when the system becomes so corrupt and the gap between the powerful and the powerless grows so wide, people start to justify the idea of taking from the rich and giving to the poor. It’s a result of feeling as though those in power have stolen from them for so long, and in the minds of some, the only way to rectify the imbalance is to strike back, no matter the cost.
@@CadillacJak this exact thinking is what caused the french revolution look into it and see where the future of this country is heading... its very worrying
It's nothing to do with corruption in the system or imbalance. Some people are just unhinged. We'll always have some people who want to murder and they will use whatever excuse to justify.
@@Stumme-40203 I know. The problem I'm pointing out is that Asmon thinks that the "only" reason why we like the shooter & Luigi (I'm not yet assuming that they're both the same person, don't know yet for sure) is because of his looks. If they are the same person, then Luigi's good looks are just a bonus.
"You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line."
Meanwhile in Sweden we pay about 28%-30% taxes depending on where you live and how much you earn and in this includes health care, you pay about 20$ for a nurse visit and 40$ doctor visit, once you paid 110$ in one year you get a free card from the first day of your visit until the year after same day and month of your first visit (Remaining 12 months). So if you have regular visits daily or every week you get full free care for that year. Same thing with medicine once you paid about 280$ in one year you also get a free card there for the remaining 12 months from the first time you paid. Once the time period is over you start paying again but the process repeats and you can get a free card again. Taxes don't just go to health care it goes to so many other good things like the school system in Sweden is also entirely free, even college. You even get money for going to school for free and you get 330$ every month and if you want you can take a loan and increase that amount to about 1000-12000$ every month with a super low interest so it's easy to pay off. Only thing you pay for when it comes to school are books/material for your courses, starting from college that is, before college the school provides all material for free. On top of this which is also because of taxes we have service cars for the elderly and handicapped to help them get to stores, places, friends and family and in this is provided service from the driver to help you get in/out of the car and if you need it help with bagage and to lend you a hand to the doors of the place you're going to, these travels costs you about 5-10$ depending on how far you are going, it can go up to 50$ if you are traveling very long distances but meanwhile a Taxi would cost you double or triple the amount. The type of cars provided are normal ones, big ones that can take wheelchairs, or big ones that provide you a stretcher if you need to lay down, if needed another driver can be hired to also help lift you up the stairs in a strecther and lastly a car that can help with stair climbing with a wheelchair. As well as service cars to the hospital exist for those who are the age 85 and above it is included for you or if you are under the age of 85 and need help the doctor/nurse can send a referral for service car if they evaluate that you can't travel any other way where you pay 15$ no matter the distance and here there is also a free card that is at 180$ so once you paid that in a year all your car rides to the hospitals are free for remaining 12 months as well. As for insurance, it does exist but it's not per say health insurance it's more insurance for your home, if things get stolen or gets broken etc and this costs you about 30-40$ every month. Fellow Swedes if i missed something or gave wrong information on something feel free to correct me. Now this is just my country Sweden, there are other countries in europe who does it even better than us.
@@ReptillianStrike This. In germany it's not even taxes that do this, we technically separate income tax and social deductibles like health insurance and retirement insurance. For all intents and purposes it all gets taken from your gross wages so it's really all the same to me, but here we don't pay for a doctor's visit at all, period. Show insurance card, see doc, go home. Medication depends on whether you get it prescribed, if you do then you pay a small sum like 5€ no matter what the stuff costs (I'm on ozempic for diabetes, and I get a full 3 month ration on one prescription. That shit costs like 1500 bucks, I get it for 15). Thing is, I'd much rather give up a portion of my gross wages as a sort-of tax every month (it's money I don't budget in anyway) and never have to worry about healthcare rather than have a bit more money in hand every month but have to live in a dystopia where healthcare companies are trying to profit off my suffering and there's always a latent risk an unexpected illness or injury can financially cripple me for life. It's a complete no-brainer.
A lot of what pays for social services/welfare is what's called "arbetsgivaravgift" though, which is an employment tax on your income that the employer pays. So all in all, about 50% of your income goes to taxes. Taxes is one of the reasons why incomes for the same jobs tend to be lower in Sweden, compared to e.g. the US. But as long as the tax money is well spent, I definitely support the concept.
I worked with a guy who almost died from a blood clot after an insurance company waited days before denying an emergency surgery. The guy only lived because he cashed in his 401k and paid for the surgery out of pocket. Last I heard he was still sueing to get his money back.
Sounds to me that you guys have 2 major f-up problems beyond repair: the cost of the operation is nuclear level of inflated, and then under that problem, insurance company. Every time i look at the US I just can't understand how you guys got to that point, it's insane man. You have thieves in every single place of power and it is so bad it's causing death and suffering by masses.
Asmon doesn't think the murder was justified at all, but he thinks the CEO should have been put in jail. The whole reason why anyone supports Luigi is because this CEO was NEVER going to be put in jail for how his company sought profits. All of the things UHC was doing are just par for the course when we're talking about a multi-billion dollar business whose sole purpose is to gamble with peoples' lives. They have teams of lawyers whose job it is to ensure that everything the company does is legally defensible. Part of the job of any person in a position similar to that of Brian Thompson is to effectively choose to trade the lives or wellbeing of thousands of people in order to maximize their company's profit and that is arguably much more reprehensible than a single murder. That's why there are so many people openly supporting Luigi in spite of the fact that they believe he is a murderer. The public and media has been openly supporting and even celebrating the killing of supposedly evil people since the advent of public discourse; the difference here is that the person killed was a part of our own nation's system. To act as if this was just a purely senseless murder with no justification requires you to ignore multiple massive elephants in the room.
And to get on your high horse about someone who's entire income is dependent on public opinion not openly celebrating cold blooded murder is also ignoring multiple elephants in the room. Lets be real, we all know exactly what he actually thinks. We also know exactly why he cant say it on stream. Don't expect people to tank their careers to validate your opinion. They do that shit in private because they know what they're doing. Me and you can celebrate it as much as we want. Anyone public-facing can't.
So, the precedent you're setting is that anyone who works for a company that acquires profits through possible illicit means should be put to death? Interesting line of thinking you have there.
@@GorehowlBeardhead Plenty of large content creators have openly praised Luigi's actions. It's pretty silly to defend someone while simultaneously accusing them of grifting. Asmon's got plenty of money and has said plenty of more controversial things on his stream. I don't agree that Asmon secretly supports Luigi's actions but refuses to admit it on stream for fear of losing his job; I think he's simply exhibiting flawed reasoning in establishing and communicating his position on the matter.
@@jaekwon1822 That's all well and good on paper but it's rarely practical, especially within a reasonable timespan. When virtually every lawmaker in the country is funded by said shady corporations, it's naive to expect the law to change in a manner which does not favor their interest. One example of aforementioned "elephants in the room" is that money is effectively a cheat code in this part of the world, as it contributes to a positive feedback loop that allows the pursuit of major capitol to grow increasingly unchecked. Having enough money can make certain corporations effectively above the law, which allows them to make even more money, which allows them to influence legislature a politics even more strongly.
You know what's messed up? The fact that these independent TH-cam journalists are doing more for the people than these politicians we "elect" who give us all these empty promises. Andrew you are awesome man!
surprised? youtuber get paid from views (content that majority love to watch) and politicians get paid by getting elected (only nice until get in power) this stuff happened because it was designed by that incentive
My mom is literally dying right now and refusing to go to the hospital because none of us can afford it. I'm spending hundreds every month just to get one of her meds filled, and all of us have an income.
Asmond, you know fucking well Brian would NEVER face legal repercussions for his actions. And yes, people do not understand it. A lot of key figures are taking considerable BRIBES to creatively not understand things.
I mean.... Prove it for one. But two, get off your butt and get involved in the process. Stop asking other people to do it for you. Once you fail often enough, then you can complain. Until then, you haven't bothered to try.
Many people don't see Luigi as a murderer, they see him as an executioner for crimes Healthcare has commited. It would be unreasonable to prosecute an executioner for doing his job. Equally the US justice system cannot recognize any other justice system beside itself, especially when it failed itself. A justice system can never do that. Most people cannot point at why they sympathize with Luigi, they just do. He's their executioner, he's their alternative justice system. And he serves them better than the US justice system. That's why they want him free, that's why they sympathize with him.
I got fired for getting hurt at work. Unemployment insurance did zero investigations and denied outright and immediately denied on appeal. Employer refused to acknowledge it and I got screwed. Out of work, severe pain and inability to move normally for almost a year. I’ve begged for help and pawned almost everything. No one cares. And if I had insurance it would still be the same.
American "at will" employment states really do let them just fire people illegally huh? In any other first world country that's grounds for unfair dismissal the business may as well have paid your wages for a year severence it would have been cheaper for them. the USA is just crazy sometimes to hear about.
In 2010, an ambulance ride cost me $5,500.00. In 2018 Medicare refused to pay for my chemotherapy and everyone else with Stage 3 Type "A" Melanoma cancer. Medicare's official response was, "the results doesn't justify the expense."
Same thing happened with my mom who had stage 4 throat cancer. She unfortunately didn't beat it so now i have to live with the memory of holding her bloody hand while she bled out from a ruptured artery in her throat and having to clean up the blood.
@ you have completely missed the point. 9 times out of 10 you're gonna need some kind of treatment in the ambulance or you wouldnt need the ambulance. The fact you can be charged even that much before getting to the hospital where the really fuck you with an astronomical bill. I was hit with a $40,000 hospital bill on my 20th birthday cause of a seizure. I literally had no say in the matter.
@@Dumbledorth that is horrible, imagine you are out one night or at a friends house then boom seizure, you wake up in hospital bed and oh look, 40k bill and potential brain damage. Holy fuck that is nightmare fuel, I hope you got through all that all good.
The thing is that the same thing happens in universal healthcare countries. Just with the added thing that there is no possibility of paying for it urself. Just bcoz u have universal healthcare doesn’t mean u get any treatment u want… the gov looks at cost and the success rate for every treatment, if it’s too low they just don’t offer it. End of discussion! The gov do the exact same calculation as insurance companies does.. gov don’t have infinite money even if comment section larping commies seems to think so..
14:13 The fact that he is attractive and comes from a wealthy family is not trivial. This is a man who, despite having everything someone could, threw it all away. This is completely different than someone who is ugly, poor and who has almost nithing to live for.
Well it says that he atcually believe din his cause. And that seems somehting so alien to the people making policies that it scares them to no end. They also grossly underestimated how legedarily awful and recklessly backwards the US system is. To the point where the entir epopulation hates it with a passion.
Have diabetic neuropathy, no coverage.. so i cannot afford to go to the dr, and cannot afford pain meds, so you know what i do? Just feel pain It sucks
I have permanent nerve damage in my spine. The surgery failed and was not allowed to continue medication because the pain was caused by the surgery. Absolutely unreal. This was 5 years ago and I feel pain every day.
Me and my family got to see the viciousness of insurance. My mom recently passed on Christmas Eve. She had "good insurance" and the hospital said it doesn't serve their hospital. The Finance department told her to cancel it and apply for medicaid. Then when she got treatment they denied her medicaid. Neither would cover her implant replacement. They were calling to collect up to the moment and after. She passed with a hole in her chest that wasn't treated.
The hospital said it's all good and they will move it to "charity" and now my dad is getting bills for 500k. He told me he's been calling that department for 3 months and never gets a call back but they flood him with collection letters. My mom took care of her health her whole life. No smoke, no drink, healthy foods, no microwaving food, always keeping her phone away. A health nut. And this is how they ended up treating her. My parents were married for 30 years and my dad is still torn up about how he had to fish it out of the bathtub and was calling around in a frenzy and nobody would give them help. I've had 2 spinal surgeries and what Asmon says about his dad is true. On my second surgery they gave me nothing for pain so now I've got a permanent tightness/pain in my hip from not being able to walk to recover after due to the pain. They all cover for each other.
Untreated pain (like mentioned in the video) costs the nation 635 billion dollars every year. I had the same surgery as them both, Difference being they give me nothing for it. I've recently got GI bleeds from taking too much Tylenol and went to the ER and the doctors only say "Take more Tylenol". Also Lyrica gives you memory problems so I don't take it, not that they give me anything to start off with. Just my family and me's experience with healthcare.
In Wisconsin, as an experiment, i did one appointment with insurance and one without. With insurance it was $390, without it it's $320. They charge MORE if you have insurance because they can squeeze more from insurance companies
And leftists will claim that the solution is to simply change middlemen to the government, an organization well known for being financially responsible.
Same in the UK. I got a bill from a consultant and it was £160. Consultant put it through insurance and the bill paid was £260. Extra £100 from the insurance company. But I think overall that's less of the issue. Because the insurance companies can negotiate these things with doctors etc. The core issue is the fact the insurance companies just don't want to pay out full stop. They want to keep those high profit margins.
The irony is that the one who gave tip to the arrest of Luigi likely would not get the police + FBI money reward, or at least the full amount (up to 10k +60k, emphasize on the "up to"). They got swindled, just like how these Healthcare companies did to the their customers.
Actually, reward money for tips/information is usually respected, especially by larger LE agencies/departments. The only times I've seen them not be respected is when law enforcement doesn't have anything left in their reward fund or it wasn't substantial enough to warrant a reward (aka, they either didn't lead to an arrest and conviction or the criminal was convicted, but not as a result of that tip). It is notable however that reward money is almost always a per case payout rather than per tip. So you essentially compete with your fellow informants as to who gives police the most valuable information and hence who ultimately receives the posted reward money. Even if you meet the criteria, if someone else's information was more valuable, they would get the money over you.
@@l0sts0ul89 Actually, I assumed they were speaking broadly but it seems like the McDonalds employee's reward through Crime Stoppers and the FBI (10k from the former, 50k from the later) made the news. From what I've seen, we won't know until post-conviction (since reward money requires a conviction to result from the tip) but all signs point to the McDonalds employee getting their reward should there not be any other more eligible people. There's no reason to assume they won't be paid at the moment. The NYPD's Crime Stoppers program also confirmed that the McDonalds employee is eligible. Now, what could happen is Luigi is escapes conviction via jury nullification. In that case, the McDonalds employee would only be eligible up to $3,500 from the Crime Stoppers program (the FBI requires a conviction for any reward money at all). Also a possibility they have to split it with the other 29 people who called in with useful information.
It's hard to hate Luigi. He killed one, the other killed thousands. Luigi killed the one responsible for those thousands. I'm honestly surprised this isn't more common in America.
DId he? Or is he just the face of one small part of the whole system behind it. I don´t think that he made the decisions that the USA doesn´t have free healthcare, the pricing of hospitals, ambulances and medications and so on. Let´s also not forget all the CEOs of other companies that are exploiding 3rd world countries to manufacture their goods for cheap labor. Also, what about all the normal employees that are aware of that and still work there. Is it ok to kill them too?
Tell me. How did the world change after the CEO got killed? United Healthcare still exists and it won't be changing its business. They will just appoint a new CEO. A family lost a father and a husband to a man who thinks he's above the law.
Here in the third world being trained as an emergency vehicle doctor pays super well. It's very stressful tho. Maybe you guys need to make some politicians aware.
FEHB and state analogues cover 70%(Minimum)-100%(some states) medical expenses from taxpayers. Furthermore, our IRS generally allows you a medical expenses deduction if you have unreimbursed expenses that are more than 7.5% of your Adjusted Gross Income, which on a moderate six figure income for many of these clowns can be a decent chunk. Taxpayer funded benefits also means that six figure income doesn't need to go to a lot of necessities meaning most of them have premium private healthcare to cover what little they might have to pay for. They don't care about it because A. it doesn't effect them B. they profit and have interests in these pseudo monopoly insurance companies C. it is their regulations that 'mostly' lead to high expenses for people in the first place by design for the sake of point B. Things will not get better because people vote the same way with no education, intelligence, or wisdom any longer and thus the definition of insanity must dictate their lives. People are also ignorant to government funded healthcare programs which we spend more time subsidizing than it would probably cost to just make a national program. We could also forgo our welfare state provider and defense spending provider to Europe(which is why they have the social programs they do; pompous leeches) and fix this issue overnight but we are stuck in alliances that make no sense from 80 years ago against an enemy that no longer exists so.... *shrug*
7:38 In Texas, it's common for doctors to write Rx for mattresses and adjustable bases. This means you don't pay ANY sales tax on those items, which usually comes to save people between $400 and $800 depending on how much the set you buy is. I recommend all my customers have their doctor give them an Rx for their purchase, since a good mattress is one of the most important things one can do for their health.
A couple of years ago I finally wore out my mattress and could feel the springs as I played down. I felt terrible, all aspects of my life was hampered a bit, and I didn't know why until my parents replaced it. It can not be overpaid how important good sleep is for the body.
@@timothymcintire5747 IDK as for me a basic IKEA spring matress (not the cheapest one tho) is totally fine. Are those fancy ones really that much better?
It's sucks this is the one thing I agree with Libs on. A trillion middle-man that has absolutely nothing to do with health shouldn't have existed in the 1st-place. And when you cause millions of people to suffer for profit, you should 100% expect this outcome. It's "crazy" not to expect this. We live in a world where people will off- you for much less!
I'm glad someone else said it. It is ridiculous how polarizing this has become and why. I could of told any person this when I was in middle school! I don't care how much money a person has, push enough people too far and it will end badly for you. It only takes one person to end another's life.
@@timothymcintire5747 I don't think it's really polarizing at all. The media owned by billionaires have a vested interest in making it sound polarizing. I think if anything they're alarmed the left an right everyday people are more or less unified on not giving a shit Brian was killed. The bulk of people who care are the mega wealthy.
I've had back surgery on my L4/5. I had to wait over a year. The problem with waiting that long is the unbearable pain you get from the sciatica. Mine was under my right kneecap....you can't stand or walk. The only reason they operated on me after a year of suffering was because I caught "cauda equina." I couldn't piss anymore because I was losing feeling in the lower half of my body, and if they didn't operate immediately I'd be paralyzed for life. Ten years later because of permanent nerve damage I'm still using a walking stick.
I'm sorry to hear that.. This has convinced me to go ahead and get the surgery for my sciatica. I've been struggling with pt and low inflammation nutrition to get my sciatica under control.. and it always comes back after the steroids fade.... But I'm not optimistic that my health insurance would even cover me for it
i mean im sure before that you didnt take care of your health and didn't exercise or eat good so it was only a matter of time. you could have changed that but it wasnt important enough for you. cool
oh shit, I had a similar surgery on L4 L5 back in 2016. It only took about 1month waiting period. And it is in fking Canada lol. I have numb under both kneecaps too.
I too have Cauda equina syndrome. I had a similar surgery in 2017. L5 S1. When people ask I just say spinal decompression or back surgery because not many people heard or know the issues that come along with Cauda equina syndrome. Life is never the same afterwards
You do know that both medicare and medicaid both deny claims, right? Are the people in charge of those programs also serial killers? What about the Canadian health system that used "medical assistance in dying" as a cost-cutting measure?
I think the bigger problem is actually the hospitals and charging ridiculous ammount for care. I saw a doctor for about 2 minutes and dude tried charging me $1500 for those 2 minutes to tell me to do what i had already come to a conclusion. The crutches were the cheapest thing i got from my visit. Luckily im fully covered by the VA.
Doctor here, hospitals have upscaled charges significantly in the past decade and a big reason is insurance. That 1500 the hospital charged you isn't usually paid in full by insurance companies. They will only give a smaller amount like 800$. This also makes it a lot harder for clinics to stay open and why healthcare monopolies exist in certain areas of the country.
Insurance Companies could adopt the Medicare/Mediaid as their Standard. Menu Price for every treatment that is automatically approved, but they set a price for wether the Physician accept or deny the insurance.
2021 I had a ladder fall, I was bleeding pretty good. I tried one of those 24 hour clinics, they told me to go to the ER. 9 stitches ended up costing $4,500. I don't have insurance, so the hospital was willing to lower it to $1,800 and I made no interest payments for 18 months. Every year I get a thing from the IRS telling me they know I don't have health insurance and I'm eligible for a $10 a month plan via Healthcare gov, I check the site and find out the $10 a month plan has a $10,000 deductible and provide basically no coverage at all.
@steak5599 Physicians in hospitals don't have a say whether that hospital accepts certain insurance. In private clinics, physicians are able to do what they wish whether it's insurance or cash/concierge. Medicare is the standard for all insurance companies so they don't get sued. Big example is steroid injections used to be given freely as long as it was 2 weeks apart. Now you're only allowed 4 a year. Medicare was the first one to set the 4 a year standard now all insurance companies have that standard. Just giving info I hate insurance companies and the ambiguity
“Very nice room” 😂😂 yeah tell me about it I was at the hospital for 4 days and it was so awful I left against doctors advice who said I should stay for at least 10 days
@@smileybagels Yeah no, that doesn't happen. Our system isn't perfect, like no system is, but urgent care is always prioritized, especially in cases where a patient would die without treatment. Claiming otherwise shows your ignorance. Nothing more.
you say that as if you have some knowledge, while I am looking at reports from various sources such as the times and the OECD. I know ignorance is bliss but the EU is not a bastion of healthcare, but please lecture me more with your, 'opinions'.
The problem is that the government isn't involved with health insurance and they should be the ones overseeing all aspects of the health care system so the people aren't being preyed upon... in this case, yes, the government should take away needing health insurance
Then maybe the government doesn't have to provide healthcare to you at all. Maybe they could simply ban healthcare and make you fix yourself if you can. There, now nobody can complain about a system screwing them over. Good luck.
@@MatI-cc6ld "the government isn't involved in health insurance" The government can oversee any industry that's kind of their definitional job. Even if y'all want to cling to this antique company based healthcare system it very much still is the governments place to regulate industry, and the peoples job to tell the government we're mad as well and not going to take it anymore.
Take away what? The ACA and Medicare options they provide? This reads like a misguided attack on the government. If anything they need to create or enforce a better healthcare system.
Every other developed country in the world has some form of universal healthcare. Which means they either have a indvidual mandate system and heavily regulate private insurance or heathcare is paid with taxes or a combination of both.
Not really. That BC poll showed 41% of young people found the murder acceptable, meaning 59% of those young voters didn't. Considering that's the demographic that likely supports the murder the most (more mature people don't support murder), there seems to be an overwhelming overall majority that doesn't find murder acceptable. They're probably not going to atruggle finding people for the jury. Remember, the echo chamber of the internet doesn't represent general public opinion. I know it's cool to live in internet fantasy land, but the world isn't a fairy tale. Reality hits, and it hits hard.
Rittenhouse didn't act to murder, Penny didn't act to murder...Luigi absolutely acted to murder. While I don't necessarily think it was wrong because American insurance and healthcare is INSANE and needs change...he still absolutely is the only murderer out of the 3.
@@parramaniac6155this. A simple fact that nobody recognizes. Yet the same bunch of folks don’t recognize that these insurance executives absolutely had it coming.
My best friend in college fell skateboarding and cracked his skull. Bleeding like crazy. We had to trick him to get him to the ER cause he said he didn’t have insurance. Got him there and the ER said if we would have waited later he would have died. Healthcare needs a reform
my friend did that and we could see the grey matter from his brain coming out of his ears. he went on to be a successful musician and husband with a family...cant speak for the bills though. just happy he made it.
I dislocated my jaw in 2022 And I had my grandmother call the ambulance because I couldn't talk or close my mouth, The ambulance got there and said we recommend that your grandmother takes you because if we take you that's $4,000 and the hospital is maybe 3 mi away.. So I opt for my grandmother to take me and suffered in the car sitting in traffic at every red light and it felt like the longest 3 miles of my life. I was shaking and I couldn't stop shaking.. My right jaw was the one that was dislocated but the fatigue of my left jaw was very overwhelming... And even with insurance and everything when I got to the hospital and they reset my jaw or whatever 2 weeks later I got a bill in the mail for 3K..
For what it's worth, a ride in an ambulance isn't exactly comfy. You're strapped to a bench laying down and in a non life threatening emergency they're not going to be getting there much faster. I'm sure the ride there sucked, but it wouldn't have been any better with EMS.
Eu is not better, here you go to emergency, they check you, and you get a 8 month wait just for an mri scan unless you are actually dying or exagerate like crazy, if you have a knee problem or any injury that is not ''life threatening'' it will go cronic when it might have been fixed in a couple months of therapy or a sugery, but when they treat you its usually to late, and if you dont like to make drama or you handle the pain well they will not take you seriously unless you are literally crying from the pain or bleeding badly
@@itsausername it could be faster because the ambulance get the right of way, plus he could be administered some painkiller to ease the fatigue/pain. Not more comfortable for sure, but faster
@@itsausername if its anything like here in the UK then if you are taken by ambulance you pretty much skip a large part of the triage of the ER. $4.000 is insane bro, i couldn't' imagine not being able to take an ambulance because of money... Honestly the biggest downsides of a public healthcare system is limited resources, America is/was the greatest country on earth however this wouldn't be an issue if immigration is kept in check, like how can it let its citizens be taken advantage of like this even with good insurance you still get screwed.
I live in a small practically broke country (Greece) yet an ambulance call will cost you 0 euros even if you have no insurance. You are telling me that US ''cannot afford'' to have a public health care system, yet you can afford giving Zelensky bazillions for a war he was going to lose from day 1. Talking about priorities...
If my mum had died because of the insurance refusing to pay I would of done the same thing. No joke. My mum passed away from cancer in a hospice and I'm investigating the hospice because I'm positive they knowingly ODed her I have found 12 other family's with the same story but I'm building a case. In the UK they are not allowed to assist suicide.
550$/month on average.... It's something like 23k/year for my family for medical & denta. There's zero doctors or dentists in my network accepting patients within 100 miles.
Yeah my wife's clinic decided to stop doing primary care and so she was orphaned from care and had nowhere to go for serious issues for a few months. Doctors offices either refused new patients or now have basically job application forms to see if they want to take you. IDK if they do this, but they ask if you have medical issues presently so I wouldn't be surprised if they went "eh too much hassle" and only took people with minor issues.
of course he didn't /wouldn't "commit toaster bath" because he is too narcissistic and self centered to do it.. he thinks he is the "main character".. but he is just a spoiled rich kid that got mad he was told no..
i live in iran, my dad had a very heavy surgery just last month he needed to completely remove he's bladder and etc... he was at the hospital for 2 weeks and had 3 surgeries at the end the whole cost was about 150$ but with our low tier insurance we paid around 30$ and it was for 2 whole week of care, food, all the equipment and 3 surgeries its kinda crazy to me how much medical care cost in us
Most funny thing, in most countries urgent care is almost free. I was in ER yesterday, payed 7 euros for 2 doctors to check me and MRI scan. I don't even consider it a "pay". In US urgent care is far more expensive than regular.
that would have cost the life savings of people here in the usa. a scan to see if you had a kidney stone cost $1200 usd... with insurance.. and that is just for the scan... not counting the drs bill for the visit or the referral fee for the hospital.
If it was government ran, it could be ran just like the other government insurance companies like the FDIC. Government ran insurance isn’t new. Nobody ever complains about the FDIC besides the harassment scandal.
@@Rollerblader091The FDIC is completely different to healthcare. It only gives back people money they already had, which is fair and achievable. However with healthcare each person wants infinite money so they can get a luxury product and preferential treatment over others.
Profits are not the same thing as getting paid. Employees can get paid without the organization making a profit. This is done by shoveling money into a system that is losing it. This is all government programs by the way, because the government generates billions in revenue through taxes. This works in every other first world country by the way.
12 year RN here - and my dad went through something similar to your father, Asmon. He was taking 10mg valiums for about twenty years for sleep and ptsd/anxiety, and due to venous stasis in his legs from diabetes had very bad chronic pain, was given a script or two of percocet, then morphine tablets, and then out of the blue in 2015, a year before he died, they cut him off almost everything, my dad was a 100% disabled priority 1 Vietnam veteran. The government is fucking dirty. 🤬 I see everyday as a nurse - insurance denying life altering and life saving medications, and it makes me sick. I do all I can to advocate for my patients, but insurance companies constantly shut us down from doing proper treatments. Luigi's family ran nursing homes - the environment I've primarily worked in for more than half my nursing career. You get very jaded against the "healthcare as a business" model when you get so close with residents that many feel like family or friends. Maybe that's where Luigi is coming from? I don't condone violence or murder but that POS CEO had it coming to him. 😑
I'm having the same problem where I work with Optum suddenly not covering any of the diabetic medications and forcing them all onto new experimental drugs that don't work. Insurance is doing horrible things to our patients
It should not be the insurance company making the decision, it should be an independent dr. mediator between the treating hospital and the insurance company. This would stop a hospital doing unnecessary work and charging insurance....and stop the insurance company refusing essential treatment. As long as the insurance company is the one that decides whether treatment happens, they will always say no to save money.
You guys are so right and I appreciate that you see where I'm coming from. A lot of my diabetic patients are being denied from one type of insulin to another, being denied Ozempic (which, I'm not a fan of the drug due to the long-term issues I've seen and what I foresee for people taking it that don't actually need to for diabetes management). But it does help some patients too with badly managed diabetes and there's no reason it should cost so much when it's widely available now, no reason for it to be denied if a doctor signed off on it. No reason we should pay hundreds to thousands a month under employer healthcare benefits to only be denied the first time we go to a provider for help, for instance. I'm tired of wasting my money to never use my insurance except for ER visits when something acute happens, because I cannot afford to go to the doctor. I almost went septic over a badly infected back tooth while awaiting dental insurance benefits to kick in last year. Delta dental covered the appointment cost and 1 x-ray. I had to pay full out of pocket costs of over $200 for an in-office tooth extraction. I was lucky to be able to afford it - or I could be dead. I had a very good old-school dentist that insisted on removing the tooth asap - whereas 2 previous dentists told me it had to be SURGICALLY removed. That would've costed me thousands of dollars! My old school dentist (who retired this year sadly) saved me thousands despite having to pay out of pocket, and he SAVED my life. Insurance companies are crooked AF, continue to steal our money, and continue to kill people every day, yet they get away with it! 😭 Back in the day, 10-12 years ago, Delta dental was great, they paid for half of a front upper crown (6 teeth in total) free cleaning yearly, etc. But they're just as sketchy as United Healthcare these days. 😑
90% error rate is not negligence, it's by design We arre still arguing about legislations for IA to drive cars, for safety measures and liability, and it is the right to do but letting IA choose basicaly who's gonna live and who's gonna die is the most cyberpunk thing I ever seen, some looby have actualy done some good job right there, dammmmn
Hopper: if one ant stands up to us, then they might all stand up . These puny little ants out number up 100 to 1, if they figure this out there goes our way of life. Its not about food, its about keeping those ants in line. A bugs life was ahead of its time and hoppers speech is extremely relevant to this current situation
Ahead of its time? Marx, Lennin, Engels and co were saying pretty much that 100 years ago my man. Too bad people see the word communism and they shit their pants.
@@GokuSolosAnime He says typing from his phone. Most people don't stand up because it's literally irrelevant. Nothing will change. The quote makes sense on the surface, but holds no bearing in real life. If there was a need we would all die in a nuclear war, what in the world do you think humans can do against the government, truly? Besides, people used to die from polio while working in a asbestosmine to feed their one child still alive (who's also a coworker of him) -- im sure your life is pretty decent overall. Considering you're probably going to type out an angry reply on a phone or computer sitting on your ass in a streamer's random youtube video. Every psycho has a rationalization of their actions. Just because this one aligns with everyone (and mine) does not mean he somehow is sane or did it for a good cause. It's just how luck works -- sometimes it turns in your favour, and other times they shit in a pizza to destroy democracy manifest.
The middle class is fucked. There's no benefit to making more than 50k. You pay more taxes, healthcare is no longer covered and you get less government help. It's almost easier to stay broke 😭 unless you make like 150k+
On the east coast I am making about $15K over the limit to qualify for benefits. I need to pay $3K a year just for the shittiest insurance my company offers where the plan has a $3000 deductible and doesn't cover copay. I had to get an MRI which was $2.5K that I am paying $5 a month on to keep collections away. My medications for chronic lower back pain and all sorts of copay average out to about $1K a year in cost. None of this includes dental and vision plan costs. Once you account for taxes and costs such as not having access to EBT to nullify the rising food costs, I make about the same as someone who does qualify for benefits. I know I can look for another job but it feels like this pattern will just continue and I'm tired boss. The option to just work a low end job and take in benefits keeps getting more appealing. Good luck in the rat race everyone.
there are some jobs that fully cover healthcare for you and your whole family. i've had to decline a startup with a higher salary because while it was a higher salary their health insurance as part of the benefits package did not cover my family (only paid employee premium). my wife's job doesn't offer health insurance, so to add my wife and kid it wouldve practically ate up all the additional salary so I had to decline..
People would be more willing to feel bad about that CEO if they could even remotely trust in the justice system. They know these rich people never pay for their wrongdoings.
The insurance companies don't set the prices at ridiculous amounts... talk to the hospitals. Insurance companies are businesses, Healthcare just costs way way way too much. We're blaming the wrong people. Blame the doctors and hospitals charging what they charge for Healthcare. Have a child and then look at the bill. That's the hospital charging that much.
@ericstaples7220 he guided his company to create optum, a Healthcare system under United that on paper focuses on preventative medications and treatments. In practice what it does is cuts them off from their family doctors locally and forces them to use United Healthcare Doctors who then proceed to prescribe patients United Healthcare approved medications, many of which don't work or aren't as effective as the medications their REAL doctors prescribe. I'm currently trying to negotiate to get Optum out of my place of work because they are literally killing diabetics by putting them on sub par medications and insulins that are cheaper for them to use but have horrible outcomes for patients A1C and blood glucose levels which causes them problems both down the line and now. Thats just ONE example. There's a sea of other examples where United essentially strongarms patients into accepting negative outcomes and tend not to pay whenever possible which is over 1/3rd of the time. They also have a tendency of calling life saving surgeries 'cosmetic' and not wanting to pay for them in the hopes of you just either eating the cost yourself by being desperate enough or dying before your appeal goes through. This was under Brian's leadership.
Health care pro tip: Stop going to the ER unless ur going to die that day without help. Go to urgent care to get same day care that's not an emergency. It will cost 10 times less. Broken arm? Ur not going to die, go to urgent care.
We don't need to publicly approve what Mangione did. Let him go to prison for an appropriate amount of time. Let CEOs know there's people willing to do the time, tho. Both things can coexist, you don't need to free him.
In all truthfulness, the conviction of KNOWING people are willing to do the time might scare them straight enough... though I fear a few more examples would have to be done
Honestly if we're going for entertainment, see these CEOs start having PMC Umbrella-Corp type security that just WASTES anyone who even tries to attack them. It would be stupid for them not to at this point, it's insane to me homie didn't have it. I personally know way 'smaller' CEOs who have full time, everywhere, everyplace armed security, and that's just for a sandpaper company lol. Zero controversy, their insurance requires him to have that security to get coverage.
My fantasy was to use the legal system to undo the legal system that made this insurer a fucking institution. Obama did this. I remember when health insurance was a rare thing.
@@RobertMorgan I don't think Obama invented private healthcare and medical insurance. I'm not american, but i remember this being a problem in the US for a long time before Obama.
@@hunger4wonderuhh the problem literally started with him. Forcing people to legally have health insurance DROVE up prices exponentially. We didn't have this problem before 2008, wonder why? Its almost as if millions of people predicted Obama was going to ruin the medical field. Shit, even I knew it at the age of 16, as my research paper in high school was literally about how this would happen.
My dad was put on oxycodone after a intestinal surgery, he was supposed to be on it for a few months while recovering from the surgery but it took him 2 years to get off the stuff. He wasn't anything close to himself while stepping down the dose, he was either passed out in the couch or frantically walking around the house as if he's searching for something while scratching himself til he bleeds, his face and arms were scarred from all the scratching afterwards. He had hardly any positive emotions, only irritability and disinterest in anything. He would snap at my mother and be rude which is extremely unlike him, I never saw him do that ever before. I was terrified I would never get my dad back but he's been clean for almost 2 years now. Opiates can easily ruin your life, be carefull.
The real problem isn't wether Luigi Mangione goes to jail for "terrorism" it's why the US government continues to allow health insurance companies to deny covered claims with a large percentage denying necessary and fatal insurance claims causing permanent disability and/or death. It's completely legal in the United States. The CEO who was executed by Luigi(allegedly) was over the most corrupt healthcare insurance actor UnitedHealth which had a 34% denial rate and even more with delaying claims causing postponed treatment and sometimes the inability to be helped in time. There needs to be ethical laws that force these companies to save the lives of Americans. If you had the ability to save someone's life who's about to die, would you do it for free? Or would you reject treatment because they can't pay you tens of thousands of dollars?
Point the figure around. If you think a companies job is to be benevolent than I ask you what is the purpose of a government and what does the term regulations mean? Be angry at those you elected good lord
Calling that "terrorism" is also a problem and if people don't react to that is just going to be used for everything, soon just talking against the government will be seen as "terrorism". It's already happening in EU.
None of what you are rambling about matters… murder is still never ok… I don’t care what business practices are going on… you do not kill in cold blood. Anyone defending this murderer is just as disgusting of a human as he is. 😒
everyone wants to paint this CEO as a father, a husband ect... but thats not all he was. this known 90% incorrect denial thing guaranteed killed ppl. and i dont get upset when someone kills a murderer. now i dont agree his murder is ok, but i dont think its a travesty either
The insane thing is: Health insurance in US is about 9k / year / person. And for a person who earns 100 k a year, the tax rate is 22%. So 9k for health insurance is 9 % of income. That is after taxes, this changes the calculation a bit, but to just simplify lets say that you pay 31 % of your income to tax + health care. And im not converting currencies to keep it even simpler. Now lets take a free healthcare example country, Finland: If you earn 100k per year, your tax rate is 31%. On top of this, in finland, you pay about 7,5 % of your income to retirement fund, which is mandatory. But ofcourse in the US, you pay the same, its just voluntary and % might be different. And you also get low cost daycare for kids, free education, etc in finland with your taxes. This is naturally a simplification, but essentially with the system US has you pay the same amount if you want healthcare as you would if healthcare was included in taxes, this would just mean that EVERYONE gets healthcare. And you actually get less now since its 31% just for healthcare + taxes, when in finland you get a whole lot more on top of that than just healthcare.
its actually worse than that even, half of the federal budget already goes to healthcare, we wouldnt have to increase much at all if prices were in line with other developed countries, but the healthcare industry and insurance companies have incentives to raise prices for profit
My mother took pain killers for decades like your dad did due to chronic pain from a number of health conditions and the same thing was done to her. I don't know about your dad's case but with my mom is wasn't because of the insurance it was pressure from the government to not prescribe opioids. It wrecked her, then when she got cancer again and went on hospice because her health was too weak to go through cancer treatments she was allowed to have them again and her quality of life in her last two years was far better than the previous 6 months. We were in the situation she likely lived longer with cancer than she would have without it.
Was Luigi even found guilty yet? We don't even know if he actually did it or if the police are just taking the piss yet and they're already protesting for his release like he actually did it.
What happened to innocent until proven? No way can this guy get a fair trial. There's so many odd things about it too, looks like he's being set up to me.
There is already plenty of evidence. He marked his bullets, wrote a note and was caught on video. That he shot a guy isn’t in question. What’s his defense? He must have one since he pled not guilty. One thing for sure is it’s not going to be he didn’t do it. There are other defenses to murder.
@jeremymullens7167 "he" marked the bullets, "he" wrote the note!!! Do you hear yourself? How do you know he did that? Because they told you! The CCTV images of the killer exposed only his eyes yet someone in McDonald's recognised him a week later and he had the gun in his pocket!! The images of the killer were replaced in all the media with doctored images of Luigi at McDonald's. It stinks
@@BeaHindebars Are you pretending to not understand what the person you replied to wrote? Because that is pretty much the opposite of what they said. They said that there is overwhelming evidence that he committed the crime, but we just don't know why he claims he did not, or what he thinks could possibly have justified what he did to think he could even possibly not get a guilty verdict (like one example of that happening is, technically self defense killing is still 1st degree voluntary manslaughter, but you're not charged because it's justified). Because your sentence is longer if there is clear evidence you committed a crime and you plead not guilty, since you swore to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The defense attorneys in cases will typically tell their client to plead guilty and make a deal with the prosecutor to lighten their sentence when there's so many signs that their client committed a crime, so he must be thinking something justifies him doing it if he went with a not guilty plea.
I pay about $100 a month for UHC . can never reach my deductible, I had claims denied many times, gone through my entire savings. I suffer with chronic pain, peripheral neuropathy, sciatica, and degenerative disk disease. I could never afford any surgery, barely afford my co pays, my prescriptions are cheaper if I DONT use my insurance.
People keep conflating healthcare generally, as in the price of services, and health insurance. Not everything needs risk pooling. DPC exists. And people also keep talking around the massive Medicare/Medicaid elephant in the room, as if that massive single-payer elephant is some countervailing pressure on prices. I don't see the argument for profit incentives being the issue given the way rationing works for systems without pecuniary incentives. It sure seems more to me like there's an issue with how services are provisioned and who the negotiating entities are, where the person who actually needs the service is cut out of the decision.
People have been asking it for decades, but unfortunately the politicians who most heavily pushed for solving the issue like Bernie Sanders (who constantly even now attacks just how bad our healthcare costs are and advocates for solutions/alternatives) have not been able to gain power over those who push identity politics instead. Americans have chosen to not put a high priority on this issue through those they have elected. People have proven they care more about identity politics for their party than healthcare.
@@VincentWeisTheThirdhuh? Are u actually that naive? Look at European insurances. Or are you just a bot? Just looks at the costs of the exact same treatment like x ray or MRI in the US and Germany for example. Look up the cost of basic medications like insulin or an epi pen. It’s just absurd. Like what explanation do you have that Germany can provide these services for like a 10% fraction of the cost compared to the US
In the UK citizens pay on average 3268 Pounds Sterling for healthcare per capita each year. That's roughly 4110 USD year. The benefit is they only have to pay a small deductible when they go in for basic checkups etc. However more serious surgeries or dental appointments can run the risk of long wait times due to high spikes in demand. Such spikes have occurred more often as the UK has continued to allow mass immigration into the country. This has also led to a higher number of citizens dying while on a waiting list. Private options do exist in the UK, but to my knowledge they are typically even more expensive than US options and only used by the extremely wealthy. In the US going by the statistic in the video US citizens on average pay 550 dollars a month for health insurance. That comes up to about 6600 USD a year. The benefit is that unlike the UK or other countries with fully socialized healthcare systems if you have the money you can get service upfront, no problem and typically without a delay, and unlike the UK wherein every citizen pays a set percentage of their income each year US citizens have the freedom to choose cheaper options, this means that if you're a fairly health individual you don't necessarily need extensive (higher priced) medical coverage. A specific issue with the US system is that with the introduction of Obamacare health insurance was made mandatory, this added cost also led to the introduction of laxer insurance policies which allows a large swath of extremely unhealthy people the same health insurance as the rest of the country. While from an empathetic standpoint this makes sense it makes little sense in terms of cost. Insurance only works as a system when the number of people who actually 'need' it is a fairly small percentage (and this also applies to socialized healthcare systems as less cases = less strain on the system). Now the main issue is that because over a third of the US healthcare costs are attributed to obesity and the comorbidities therein outside of the upper echelon of Insurance companies they run on narrow margins. Thus their methodology is to deny claims and essentially BS their way around cost overruns. Beyond that there is an issue in the US where our own medical costs (even before taking insurance into account) are excessively high, and this can be more so attributed to Hospitals and Pharmaceutical companies which are for profit, and make the gains made by health insurance companies look miniscule by comparison. One of the simplest ways to lower medical costs in the US to match our prices to those worldwide, there's no reason why medication which is only 5$ in Mexico is 500$ in the US.
All you need to do is end the lobbying. Make it illegal to pay politicians to pass laws against public interest, and set regulations back to near zero. Solved
In NL we're forced to pay health insurance otherwise you get fined. It varies in price, I try to go for the least expensive one because I barely use my health insurance. It's 120 euros a month, but I get 110 euros from the government each month to cover it (which anyone can apply for) so I only really pay 10 bucks a month. If you skim out on owning health insurance the fine is (at least from 6 years ago) it was 500 euro fine.
When I worked at Walmart a little over 3 years ago, there were a couple Healthcare "options". You could have either the Dental plan, the Healthcare plan, or both. It was approx. 250$ a month, 125$ a paycheck for the Dental plan. Double that for the Healthcare plan. Both was simple, you paid for both, 750$ a month. Needless to say, I had no Healthcare at the time and did not qualify for any Medicaid or Medicare program. I only paid for the Dental plan and you have to pay for a year before the insurance will pay anything.
Luigi is a hero. Sacrificing his life to get rid of a psychopath causing millions to suffer. It's obvious that the system is broken when these psychopaths get to decide who lives and who dies. It's not complex. You have a system that's supposed to provide healthcare, instead it preys on the weak and cares only about lining the pockets of rich psychopaths.
You demonstrate in this comment how much you misunderstand the health care system. The system is broken, but not because of insurance companies. The clue is in their name. INSURANCE. It should not be their responsibility to maintain our health. Our government is the problem. Our population is the problem. We live unhealthy, inactive lives and then demand insurance companies pay for the consequences. The government creates a convoluted mess of regulations and forces insurance companies to function in an impossible environment.
In short, the system is not supposed to provide healthcare. We live in a capitalist society. If we want cheap, quality health care the only way to achieve that is competition. And to pay for routine care ourselves. And to live healthy lives. And to only use insurance companies for the catastrophic issues they are designed to cover.
@@russelld2925 Maybe it's not a good idea to let capital provide basic services. "But it creates competition", yeah, competition on how to scam people out of their money.
canada has basic care but nowhere near the amount of specialists the states has. canadian medical tourism to the south is at an all time high. but heaven forbid you say there may be too many people in canada for the healthcare system to cope
For a comparison, how much "free" healthcare costs in Europe: I work in Germany and I effectively pay much more than the average American, or so it seems. Around 900 Euro in my case, half of this is directly paid by the employer, half by the employee (me). Although I never actually see the ~450 Euros I pay, because these are also directly deducted from my income, so it doesn't affect your take-home-pay. Just for transparency, the amount I gave here (~900 Euro) is the maximum amount a single person needs to pay for healthcare in Germany, as this amount is based on income, up to an upper limit, which is called the "Beitragsbemessungsgrenze", the "contribution assessment ceiling", which limits how much a person pays for social security (with contains contributions to unemployment insurance, healthcare etc.). I "unfortunately" (\s) earn above this limit, which means I have to pay the maximum amount, and it would probably be cheaper to switch to a private healthcare insurance, not the mandatory state provided one.
I questioned what the dude said but I googled it. So yeah it's 358 euro if you make 85000 euro a year. The average cost here is $477 which is comparable to yours, but we pay deductibles, and are frequently denied. So yeah we're paying way more overall with shit coverage. Idk why my fellow Americans think we have the better system
@@mike60061 where do you get 358 Euros from? You can easily verify what I said, because these percentages are fixed. As a toy example, a single person with 72000 Euros of income a year (brutto, so before any deductions) pays 462.77 × 2 Euros, this value only varies by the percentage of "healthcare provider additional contribution" amount, which each healthcare provider can set themselves, which ranges from 1%-2.5%. This is the maximum amount. Your 85000 Euro a year example would pay the same.
Asmongold having a braindead take right there. "The definition of terrorism is using violence to achieve political goals." No, that's what the government does. He forgot the most important part of the terrorism definition. Terrorism is using INDISCRIMINATE VIOLENCE against RANDOM people for political goals. Luigi had a clear target, which would upgrade him to the definition of freedom fighter.
DUde is not right in the slightest with Daniel Penny. Daniel has been tried and found innocent by a jury. There is no comparison. These Cosplayers are a stain on our society.
These people live in a closed off society. The thing about people like this is that even if you started out at the "bottom" like everyone else, they got out. They still act like they are there though comparing their experiences back then with today's standards. Wait till they are in the line of fire then they will agree really fast.
$550 was just what I paid. My employer paid another $550. Then there was the $6000 deductible. Meaning a total of about $19,000 had to be paid out of pocket before insurance would actually kick in.
No one is paying those 19000, the system is specifically designed so that it does NOT get paid. The hospital takes the loss (that's why the invoice is so high), meaning they won't pay any taxes. Hospitals in the US cannot legally execute the debt in any way, they can't repo your stuff or affect your credit score. If you pay those 19000 you're outright stupid.
My dad had to stay in an assisted living facility after a surgery, I saw the invoices that went to Medicare, $30,000 a MONTH. Thank god for the VA and 100% disability.
50:49 The legal definition of terrorism is actually somewhat complex, and distinct from how it is defined for the purpose of common parlance. LegalEagle had a vid where he spoke to a former NY prosecutor about it, who said that the Alvin Bragg DA office might be setting themselves up for failure on that count. Doesn't mean Luigi isn't going to prison forever, does mean they might struggle to convict him of first degree murder (which can carry the death penalty). Might be worth a watch.
The legal definition of terrorism could not possibly be any simpler: it is a vague wishy-washy bullshit term that doesn't belong within a quadrillion light-years of a courtroom. It's like saying "cooties" is a medical diagnosis.
The FBI definition is literally most protesting, using violence to attempt to force a change in government action or policy. That happened with a National Defense Auth Act a few years back. It's deliberately vague. It's on their website, you can read it for yourself.
I live in Canada and a have more than a few senior customers that lived in Arizona, Texas and Florida. They came back after a few minor health problems their super expensive health insurance stopped covering. Despite the fact one of them made over 250k until retirement, they burned him for millions on his wife's cancer treatments. Then he got diabetes. They came back with less than half of their retirement just trying to survive a few years down there. You can be rich and die homeless in a few years... thats America for you.
I totally agree the system is fucked, however, it is his own fault for "getting" diabetes. It is 100% a dietary choice, which is also part of the problem. The man ate himself to death and the US economy squeezed him dry along the way.
Not a bad guy to the common people but the status quo. Government and companies need to keep people complacent and feeling helpless to sustain massive profits.
@@09666slayer Is that even true of the government paid health insurance in this country, or the cost of services that the consumers don't pay for like homeless people getting emergency care? Is the rationing and delay deny defend practices better in Pareto optimal terms for other countries? It's not that simple.
@@ericstaples7220artificially high prices. Lots of people I know buy their medicine in Mexico and cross it back here. They save a lot of money and the medicine is good as they’ve been doing it a long time.
She does know that MLK, Nelson Mandela, and Gandhi advocated peace right? Wouldn't shoot anyone? I'm not saying I condemn Luigi (if found guilty) but she needs to see that one of these things is not like the other.
"A riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?...It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." -Martin Luther King Jr. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" -John F. Kennedy
I am an american living in the US and all I can say is... Welcome to the jungle brother grab a spear. Chaos incarnate and survival of the fittest here.
Be me: Guy hit me on the wrong side of the road. Fractured spine, Ambulance ride ride later, Dr walks in and she says "Guess who's getting a Helicopter ride?" Me: "NOOOO. No. NOOOO HELL NO that's like $25,000!" She assured me it was covered, she was right and ironically at the time in 2018 it was UHC, but holy shit I was ready for bankruptcy from start to finish. Luckily everything worked out, surgery was a success, I can walk, run, lift and have a stronger spine than ever. I paid about 5k, insurance paid $272,000.
If you buy the helicopter ambulance MEMBERSHIP that ride is FREEEEEE. It's $25/year and super cheap insurance, my employer pays it for all of us because if we need it, it saves us 5 figures.
Well see, that's what insurance actually is for. It is supposed to be a pool of money to pay for disasters, because most people won't experience a disaster like that, everyone can pay in a relatively small amount and be covered. Somehow we've conflated insurance with healthcare, and that makes zero sense because everyone needs healthcare. It'd be cheaper for everyone to just pay out of pocket for regular care in a free market system.
@@RobertMorgan That's actually not bad damn. I got hit on my Motorcycle, went flying 45 feet and did a front flip. I still have scar tissue damage to my right leg on my upper calf of a perfect imprint of the handle bar that hit it while I was getting ejected. My spine bowed fast during the hit and fractured my spine. Took 9 months to recover fully, and 5 years of my own physical fitness to restore muscle and support for my back. I can honestly say I never expected Life Star to give me a ride. The somber part of the story was that I was fully conscious. The pilots were talking to me, but they said "this never happens. Usually people are dying or unconscious with us". Never got on a bike since. Riding was the joy of my life.
@@martinduncan2639 Agreed I'm originally from Brazil. Coming to the US was a shock for sure when dealing with the healthcare programs. Co-pay? Coverage? As a kid I didn't understand, but wen I got my first job, having to select insurance premiums and take away pay... was quite a shock.
This is like punishing Pol Pot's killer, except if Pol Pot's controlled every government on the planet. And So As a result, he could portray himself as a victim, despite being responsible for killing millions and ruining the lives of tens of millions for his own greed. Anyways, free my boy Luigi, because there are still thousands of Pol Pot's left on this planet, and we need brave men like him to help get rid of them.
That "not in texas" about the drug weening hit hard, I was on Seroquil and Zoloft for 2 years and they legit cut me off immediately, no ween time, just 3 straight weeks of cold sweats
As disgusting as what the health companies do, and they should have been legally held accountable a long time ago (which would have prevented all this to start with, the gov allows this to happen to the public by these companies), still don’t think an execution style murder with a weapon is necessarily the same thing as denying someone health coverage. Which is kind of the issue in a nutshell. Because it’s done from so far away and people are just statistics to these companies, it takes the humanity out of it.
I do not condone murder but this incident has finally drawn attention to a systematic issue that literally kills people whose only crime was not being born wealthy. Why UHC needed to pull so many plugs to unalive seniors to make $22,000,000,000 in 365 days is much more disturbing than a guy pulling the trigger. You saw all the coverage, they don't even give half that treatment to school shooters, but this guy was shown everywhere by the government and pretty much they made an entire photo session with him, scolded by 30 policemen, and they expect people to not be pissed off? How many people get shot every single day, but hey, they are not CEOs, so let's send the local sheriff to arrest them, and free him in a few years with a bail and community service.
It's not an AI rejecting 90% of claims. It's a program that was written by someone to reject 90% of claims. It's done on purpose and by slapping AI to it just means you can deflect blame.
where does it say 90% of claims are rejected? I thought it was 30%
@@Hugex97 11:40 the 33% is from their entire business history. The 90% comes from the implamented AI.
AI implemented by investors and board directors, not the CEO. Learn the difference and then maybe you’ll finally be able to make a difference
Wow this feels so strange system, here in Finland we (citizens) don't pay If we can't afford. And only about 40-90€ per dental/hospital visit in most cases. In Spain I got free treatment as non-citizen
Hell, ai tells you what medications or operations you should get. Yeah this is just greed. Of course were probably at the point where insurance cant afford to pay out everyone, but that is the fault of the game between the business of insurance and healthcare of raising costs to max out profits over losses. Our system is broken. There are things we can be capitalistic on, luxury or leisure items. Fundamental rights to life items like healthcare, homes and food, should not be subject to capitalization. America needs to wake up, and we need to change this stat. People are dying or suffering permanent damage every minute we delay.
Dad was a doctor. he told me one thing. medicine is science, healthcare is business.
only in free market economies
@@sleepy.traderur right in commie countries even more people die waiting for services.
No shit what else would it be? It’s a service. Acts no differently than any other service.
And insurance has nothing to do with health.
He only ever told you that one single thing?
The New York mayor had no reason to make an example of Luigi on TV being escorted in chains because now he’s a martyr to the public because of that stunt.
Eric Adams saw the Joker and for some reason thought "Nice, let's do it!"
Yet he was nowhere to be seen when they caught the man who burned that woman to death on the subway.
Sociopath CEOS pay lobbyists to convince corrupt politicians to pass legislation that makes it legal for their corporation to engage in antisocial and sociopath business practices which injure and kill. What recourse do ordinary people have, when our representatives, represent corporations, instead of the people? To the politicians, CEOS, and establishment we are expendable, collateral damage! Citizen justice is the only option! Those who defend and support the psychopath CEOs engaging in these antisocial business practice will become their victims. Because it's a big club and you aren't in it, you and I aren't in the big club!
Eric Adams is trying to take the heat of off his own corruption.
New York mayor is corrupt asf. We've known it for years. He's a cruel and evil man.
Which is why he feels so threatened by the Mario Brothers.
The Robin Hood Effect-when the system becomes so corrupt and the gap between the powerful and the powerless grows so wide, people start to justify the idea of taking from the rich and giving to the poor. It’s a result of feeling as though those in power have stolen from them for so long, and in the minds of some, the only way to rectify the imbalance is to strike back, no matter the cost.
Deranged cultist behavior
@CadillacJak says the guy who's pic is of a cult leader.
@@CadillacJak this exact thinking is what caused the french revolution look into it and see where the future of this country is heading... its very worrying
It's nothing to do with corruption in the system or imbalance. Some people are just unhinged. We'll always have some people who want to murder and they will use whatever excuse to justify.
Well said.
Mario gonna have a hard time freeing his brother.
ever seen him fail?
I’ve seen him fail many times I’m not very good
"your brother is in another prison"
toad
Sorry mario your brother is in another castle
Escape using the hidden pipe level.
People have been praising the shooter since before we saw pictures of Luigi.
bingo
Thats right ,because people are poorer and pissed off.
But he’s cute.
@@Stumme-40203 I know. The problem I'm pointing out is that Asmon thinks that the "only" reason why we like the shooter & Luigi (I'm not yet assuming that they're both the same person, don't know yet for sure) is because of his looks. If they are the same person, then Luigi's good looks are just a bonus.
I would bet millions if bro was ugly none of this would be happening. People would say good to the dude dying and then move on.
"You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life! It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line."
Classic ❤
Bugs life ?
Such a great line even to this day!
Yes @@user-mi7wk2lp6m
bruh that shits too real
Meanwhile in Sweden we pay about 28%-30% taxes depending on where you live and how much you earn and in this includes health care, you pay about 20$ for a nurse visit and 40$ doctor visit, once you paid 110$ in one year you get a free card from the first day of your visit until the year after same day and month of your first visit (Remaining 12 months). So if you have regular visits daily or every week you get full free care for that year. Same thing with medicine once you paid about 280$ in one year you also get a free card there for the remaining 12 months from the first time you paid. Once the time period is over you start paying again but the process repeats and you can get a free card again.
Taxes don't just go to health care it goes to so many other good things like the school system in Sweden is also entirely free, even college. You even get money for going to school for free and you get 330$ every month and if you want you can take a loan and increase that amount to about 1000-12000$ every month with a super low interest so it's easy to pay off. Only thing you pay for when it comes to school are books/material for your courses, starting from college that is, before college the school provides all material for free.
On top of this which is also because of taxes we have service cars for the elderly and handicapped to help them get to stores, places, friends and family and in this is provided service from the driver to help you get in/out of the car and if you need it help with bagage and to lend you a hand to the doors of the place you're going to, these travels costs you about 5-10$ depending on how far you are going, it can go up to 50$ if you are traveling very long distances but meanwhile a Taxi would cost you double or triple the amount. The type of cars provided are normal ones, big ones that can take wheelchairs, or big ones that provide you a stretcher if you need to lay down, if needed another driver can be hired to also help lift you up the stairs in a strecther and lastly a car that can help with stair climbing with a wheelchair. As well as service cars to the hospital exist for those who are the age 85 and above it is included for you or if you are under the age of 85 and need help the doctor/nurse can send a referral for service car if they evaluate that you can't travel any other way where you pay 15$ no matter the distance and here there is also a free card that is at 180$ so once you paid that in a year all your car rides to the hospitals are free for remaining 12 months as well.
As for insurance, it does exist but it's not per say health insurance it's more insurance for your home, if things get stolen or gets broken etc and this costs you about 30-40$ every month.
Fellow Swedes if i missed something or gave wrong information on something feel free to correct me.
Now this is just my country Sweden, there are other countries in europe who does it even better than us.
It's shit like this that make me irrationally upset when people think taxes are bad.
Taxes aren't bad. America is just fucking pissing it away.
@@ReptillianStrike This. In germany it's not even taxes that do this, we technically separate income tax and social deductibles like health insurance and retirement insurance. For all intents and purposes it all gets taken from your gross wages so it's really all the same to me, but here we don't pay for a doctor's visit at all, period. Show insurance card, see doc, go home. Medication depends on whether you get it prescribed, if you do then you pay a small sum like 5€ no matter what the stuff costs (I'm on ozempic for diabetes, and I get a full 3 month ration on one prescription. That shit costs like 1500 bucks, I get it for 15).
Thing is, I'd much rather give up a portion of my gross wages as a sort-of tax every month (it's money I don't budget in anyway) and never have to worry about healthcare rather than have a bit more money in hand every month but have to live in a dystopia where healthcare companies are trying to profit off my suffering and there's always a latent risk an unexpected illness or injury can financially cripple me for life. It's a complete no-brainer.
@ReptillianStrike it's how the taxes are spend.
A lot of what pays for social services/welfare is what's called "arbetsgivaravgift" though, which is an employment tax on your income that the employer pays. So all in all, about 50% of your income goes to taxes.
Taxes is one of the reasons why incomes for the same jobs tend to be lower in Sweden, compared to e.g. the US. But as long as the tax money is well spent, I definitely support the concept.
@@ReptillianStrike why do we need income tax? Cant answer? Hmm maybe you can answer, why do we need insurance? Hmm.. cant answer that either?
It would be so wild if it turned out that Luigi didn't actually kill the guy lmfao.
I genuinely believe he may be being set up, there's so many odd things about it but everyone is assuming he is guilty. How can he get a fair trial?
@@BeaHindebarswhat the public thinks is irrelevant at trial unless you have an activist judge.
It was Waluigi
He literally was seen flipping out after being arrested... he's guiltier than sin. 🤦
@@hemmoau like the Trump NY case judge?
I worked with a guy who almost died from a blood clot after an insurance company waited days before denying an emergency surgery. The guy only lived because he cashed in his 401k and paid for the surgery out of pocket. Last I heard he was still sueing to get his money back.
Sounds to me that you guys have 2 major f-up problems beyond repair: the cost of the operation is nuclear level of inflated, and then under that problem, insurance company. Every time i look at the US I just can't understand how you guys got to that point, it's insane man. You have thieves in every single place of power and it is so bad it's causing death and suffering by masses.
And sadly may just lose the lawsuit because the legal team of health insurance is goated
There's no 'e' in suing FYI
@@doriangrayest there will be more Luigi
@@ratedRblazinyou’ve lost the plot
My brother in law needed back surgery. He ended up getting it done in Mexico for a fraction of the price.
Medical Tourism is a thing now.
So Mexico doctors are profiting from healthcare?
if its so great he can stay there.
And now henhas a giant ass too
@@ShockedBoneslmao
Asmon doesn't think the murder was justified at all, but he thinks the CEO should have been put in jail. The whole reason why anyone supports Luigi is because this CEO was NEVER going to be put in jail for how his company sought profits. All of the things UHC was doing are just par for the course when we're talking about a multi-billion dollar business whose sole purpose is to gamble with peoples' lives. They have teams of lawyers whose job it is to ensure that everything the company does is legally defensible. Part of the job of any person in a position similar to that of Brian Thompson is to effectively choose to trade the lives or wellbeing of thousands of people in order to maximize their company's profit and that is arguably much more reprehensible than a single murder. That's why there are so many people openly supporting Luigi in spite of the fact that they believe he is a murderer.
The public and media has been openly supporting and even celebrating the killing of supposedly evil people since the advent of public discourse; the difference here is that the person killed was a part of our own nation's system. To act as if this was just a purely senseless murder with no justification requires you to ignore multiple massive elephants in the room.
And to get on your high horse about someone who's entire income is dependent on public opinion not openly celebrating cold blooded murder is also ignoring multiple elephants in the room.
Lets be real, we all know exactly what he actually thinks. We also know exactly why he cant say it on stream. Don't expect people to tank their careers to validate your opinion. They do that shit in private because they know what they're doing. Me and you can celebrate it as much as we want. Anyone public-facing can't.
So, the precedent you're setting is that anyone who works for a company that acquires profits through possible illicit means should be put to death?
Interesting line of thinking you have there.
answer to shady corps is better law, not destroying rule of law. it's a simple concept and true
@@GorehowlBeardhead Plenty of large content creators have openly praised Luigi's actions. It's pretty silly to defend someone while simultaneously accusing them of grifting. Asmon's got plenty of money and has said plenty of more controversial things on his stream.
I don't agree that Asmon secretly supports Luigi's actions but refuses to admit it on stream for fear of losing his job; I think he's simply exhibiting flawed reasoning in establishing and communicating his position on the matter.
@@jaekwon1822 That's all well and good on paper but it's rarely practical, especially within a reasonable timespan. When virtually every lawmaker in the country is funded by said shady corporations, it's naive to expect the law to change in a manner which does not favor their interest.
One example of aforementioned "elephants in the room" is that money is effectively a cheat code in this part of the world, as it contributes to a positive feedback loop that allows the pursuit of major capitol to grow increasingly unchecked. Having enough money can make certain corporations effectively above the law, which allows them to make even more money, which allows them to influence legislature a politics even more strongly.
You know what's messed up? The fact that these independent TH-cam journalists are doing more for the people than these politicians we "elect" who give us all these empty promises. Andrew you are awesome man!
They don't have even remotely the same job or responsibilities though. This is like comparing a lunch lady and a fighter pilot.
surprised? youtuber get paid from views (content that majority love to watch) and politicians get paid by getting elected (only nice until get in power) this stuff happened because it was designed by that incentive
@@Regarded69 Arguably the lunch lady contributes to the public good, a fighter pilot in US is just a war dog killing people for the 1%.
You should mad at mainstream journalist for this reason not politition.
@@นกสีฟ้าในบ้านใหญ่cant we be mad at both?
My mom is literally dying right now and refusing to go to the hospital because none of us can afford it. I'm spending hundreds every month just to get one of her meds filled, and all of us have an income.
Do luigi to her, you save money.
@@suomiapina89English next time. It would be appreciated to even understand wtf you're on about
@@IceKoldKillaHe's saying to put her down. That's not what Luigi would have done, don't use his name in vain.
Well that’s too bad. Maybe she should go to the hospital.
Clearly you need 2 incomes.
Asmond, you know fucking well Brian would NEVER face legal repercussions for his actions. And yes, people do not understand it. A lot of key figures are taking considerable BRIBES to creatively not understand things.
My exact thought none of this would even be brought to light without all this happening because alot of people are paid to suppress it
I mean.... Prove it for one.
But two, get off your butt and get involved in the process. Stop asking other people to do it for you. Once you fail often enough, then you can complain. Until then, you haven't bothered to try.
@@dtyj2815 wtf new bots from american government or what is this
@@dtyj2815 i mean ai with 90% error rate for something to operate with human life is insane, no?
Don't let the suckers or paid people get you down or spread misinformation. Anybody can see the case law and see these figures get off for nothing.
Many people don't see Luigi as a murderer, they see him as an executioner for crimes Healthcare has commited. It would be unreasonable to prosecute an executioner for doing his job. Equally the US justice system cannot recognize any other justice system beside itself, especially when it failed itself. A justice system can never do that.
Most people cannot point at why they sympathize with Luigi, they just do. He's their executioner, he's their alternative justice system. And he serves them better than the US justice system. That's why they want him free, that's why they sympathize with him.
I would dispute the notion that most people cannot point at why they sympathize with Luigi, but you're spot on with the rest.
Do you?
I got fired for getting hurt at work. Unemployment insurance did zero investigations and denied outright and immediately denied on appeal. Employer refused to acknowledge it and I got screwed. Out of work, severe pain and inability to move normally for almost a year. I’ve begged for help and pawned almost everything. No one cares. And if I had insurance it would still be the same.
Yep. Same. Feel ya
This is very sad man. Hope you are getting better soon
You need a lawyer
American "at will" employment states really do let them just fire people illegally huh?
In any other first world country that's grounds for unfair dismissal the business may as well have paid your wages for a year severence it would have been cheaper for them.
the USA is just crazy sometimes to hear about.
If you have case you don't need money you need a lawyer. Otherwise.......
In 2010, an ambulance ride cost me $5,500.00.
In 2018 Medicare refused to pay for my chemotherapy and everyone else with Stage 3 Type "A" Melanoma cancer. Medicare's official response was, "the results doesn't justify the expense."
Ambulance ride only costs 5k if you needed some crazy treatment in the ambulance and or had insurance without insurance it costs around 200.
Same thing happened with my mom who had stage 4 throat cancer. She unfortunately didn't beat it so now i have to live with the memory of holding her bloody hand while she bled out from a ruptured artery in her throat and having to clean up the blood.
@ you have completely missed the point. 9 times out of 10 you're gonna need some kind of treatment in the ambulance or you wouldnt need the ambulance. The fact you can be charged even that much before getting to the hospital where the really fuck you with an astronomical bill. I was hit with a $40,000 hospital bill on my 20th birthday cause of a seizure. I literally had no say in the matter.
@@Dumbledorth that is horrible, imagine you are out one night or at a friends house then boom seizure, you wake up in hospital bed and oh look, 40k bill and potential brain damage. Holy fuck that is nightmare fuel, I hope you got through all that all good.
The thing is that the same thing happens in universal healthcare countries. Just with the added thing that there is no possibility of paying for it urself.
Just bcoz u have universal healthcare doesn’t mean u get any treatment u want… the gov looks at cost and the success rate for every treatment, if it’s too low they just don’t offer it. End of discussion! The gov do the exact same calculation as insurance companies does.. gov don’t have infinite money even if comment section larping commies seems to think so..
14:13 The fact that he is attractive and comes from a wealthy family is not trivial. This is a man who, despite having everything someone could, threw it all away. This is completely different than someone who is ugly, poor and who has almost nithing to live for.
it speaks to his motivations, it wasn't done out of desperation or as a last resort
@corberus3119 Agreed, looks, wealth and status are completely relevant.
@corberus3119 It doesn't mean I agree with the guy, but it certainly makes the case a more interesting one.
And again, even if you are from wealthy family and have some connections, you still UNISURES from insurance denial.
Well it says that he atcually believe din his cause. And that seems somehting so alien to the people making policies that it scares them to no end. They also grossly underestimated how legedarily awful and recklessly backwards the US system is. To the point where the entir epopulation hates it with a passion.
Have diabetic neuropathy, no coverage.. so i cannot afford to go to the dr, and cannot afford pain meds, so you know what i do?
Just feel pain
It sucks
plenty of options for financial assistance, google magic
Same here. I just have to deal.
you can always go to canada, they will offer you MAID at no charge.
I have permanent nerve damage in my spine. The surgery failed and was not allowed to continue medication because the pain was caused by the surgery. Absolutely unreal. This was 5 years ago and I feel pain every day.
You shouldn't have to live like that, such a sick system
Me and my family got to see the viciousness of insurance. My mom recently passed on Christmas Eve. She had "good insurance" and the hospital said it doesn't serve their hospital. The Finance department told her to cancel it and apply for medicaid. Then when she got treatment they denied her medicaid. Neither would cover her implant replacement. They were calling to collect up to the moment and after. She passed with a hole in her chest that wasn't treated.
The hospital said it's all good and they will move it to "charity" and now my dad is getting bills for 500k. He told me he's been calling that department for 3 months and never gets a call back but they flood him with collection letters. My mom took care of her health her whole life. No smoke, no drink, healthy foods, no microwaving food, always keeping her phone away. A health nut. And this is how they ended up treating her.
My parents were married for 30 years and my dad is still torn up about how he had to fish it out of the bathtub and was calling around in a frenzy and nobody would give them help.
I've had 2 spinal surgeries and what Asmon says about his dad is true. On my second surgery they gave me nothing for pain so now I've got a permanent tightness/pain in my hip from not being able to walk to recover after due to the pain. They all cover for each other.
Untreated pain (like mentioned in the video) costs the nation 635 billion dollars every year.
I had the same surgery as them both, Difference being they give me nothing for it. I've recently got GI bleeds from taking too much Tylenol and went to the ER and the doctors only say "Take more Tylenol".
Also Lyrica gives you memory problems so I don't take it, not that they give me anything to start off with.
Just my family and me's experience with healthcare.
Also if you want the number on actual 0D's on prescriptions it's 0.022% and because of that 0.022% I have to live with suffering.
If the hospital doesn't accept money from your insurance company, then go to a different hospital
@@ericstaples7220 It was the only cancer center in the area (or that the paramedics would take her to) and my mom was too sick to travel.
In Wisconsin, as an experiment, i did one appointment with insurance and one without. With insurance it was $390, without it it's $320. They charge MORE if you have insurance because they can squeeze more from insurance companies
And leftists will claim that the solution is to simply change middlemen to the government, an organization well known for being financially responsible.
Same in the UK. I got a bill from a consultant and it was £160. Consultant put it through insurance and the bill paid was £260. Extra £100 from the insurance company. But I think overall that's less of the issue. Because the insurance companies can negotiate these things with doctors etc. The core issue is the fact the insurance companies just don't want to pay out full stop. They want to keep those high profit margins.
you'd be even more shocked at how much they upcharge your' meds with insurance. I just don't bother with it anymore.
@@Niterayde That's a joke, totally unacceptable from what I've seen looking at the data.
Sometimes. A lot of them will only operate in their Network, and that saves the insurance companies
The irony is that the one who gave tip to the arrest of Luigi likely would not get the police + FBI money reward, or at least the full amount (up to 10k +60k, emphasize on the "up to"). They got swindled, just like how these Healthcare companies did to the their customers.
Actually, reward money for tips/information is usually respected, especially by larger LE agencies/departments. The only times I've seen them not be respected is when law enforcement doesn't have anything left in their reward fund or it wasn't substantial enough to warrant a reward (aka, they either didn't lead to an arrest and conviction or the criminal was convicted, but not as a result of that tip).
It is notable however that reward money is almost always a per case payout rather than per tip. So you essentially compete with your fellow informants as to who gives police the most valuable information and hence who ultimately receives the posted reward money. Even if you meet the criteria, if someone else's information was more valuable, they would get the money over you.
How do you know that.
@@zettour. But did they get the money is the important part
@@l0sts0ul89 Actually, I assumed they were speaking broadly but it seems like the McDonalds employee's reward through Crime Stoppers and the FBI (10k from the former, 50k from the later) made the news. From what I've seen, we won't know until post-conviction (since reward money requires a conviction to result from the tip) but all signs point to the McDonalds employee getting their reward should there not be any other more eligible people. There's no reason to assume they won't be paid at the moment. The NYPD's Crime Stoppers program also confirmed that the McDonalds employee is eligible.
Now, what could happen is Luigi is escapes conviction via jury nullification. In that case, the McDonalds employee would only be eligible up to $3,500 from the Crime Stoppers program (the FBI requires a conviction for any reward money at all). Also a possibility they have to split it with the other 29 people who called in with useful information.
It's hard to hate Luigi. He killed one, the other killed thousands. Luigi killed the one responsible for those thousands. I'm honestly surprised this isn't more common in America.
Were just sitting sheep and its sad we just accept it
DId he? Or is he just the face of one small part of the whole system behind it. I don´t think that he made the decisions that the USA doesn´t have free healthcare, the pricing of hospitals, ambulances and medications and so on. Let´s also not forget all the CEOs of other companies that are exploiding 3rd world countries to manufacture their goods for cheap labor. Also, what about all the normal employees that are aware of that and still work there. Is it ok to kill them too?
Haha sure
Tell me. How did the world change after the CEO got killed? United Healthcare still exists and it won't be changing its business. They will just appoint a new CEO. A family lost a father and a husband to a man who thinks he's above the law.
He's a real life avenger.
It's is crazy the cost of a ambulance ride. Then some of those paramedic/emt don't even makes as much as a fast food worker.
Here in the third world being trained as an emergency vehicle doctor pays super well. It's very stressful tho.
Maybe you guys need to make some politicians aware.
Blame government regulations. Ambulances often are face with strict zoning laws for where they can provide services.
@@brunoverasferreira6263 theyre already aware. They just dont care. And the people are foolish enough to reelect the same false promises
FEHB and state analogues cover 70%(Minimum)-100%(some states) medical expenses from taxpayers. Furthermore, our IRS generally allows you a medical expenses deduction if you have unreimbursed expenses that are more than 7.5% of your Adjusted Gross Income, which on a moderate six figure income for many of these clowns can be a decent chunk. Taxpayer funded benefits also means that six figure income doesn't need to go to a lot of necessities meaning most of them have premium private healthcare to cover what little they might have to pay for. They don't care about it because A. it doesn't effect them B. they profit and have interests in these pseudo monopoly insurance companies C. it is their regulations that 'mostly' lead to high expenses for people in the first place by design for the sake of point B.
Things will not get better because people vote the same way with no education, intelligence, or wisdom any longer and thus the definition of insanity must dictate their lives. People are also ignorant to government funded healthcare programs which we spend more time subsidizing than it would probably cost to just make a national program. We could also forgo our welfare state provider and defense spending provider to Europe(which is why they have the social programs they do; pompous leeches) and fix this issue overnight but we are stuck in alliances that make no sense from 80 years ago against an enemy that no longer exists so.... *shrug*
@@SmartCreeperplus let’s face the fact that fire trucks are used for medical cases for some fucking reason!
7:38 In Texas, it's common for doctors to write Rx for mattresses and adjustable bases. This means you don't pay ANY sales tax on those items, which usually comes to save people between $400 and $800 depending on how much the set you buy is. I recommend all my customers have their doctor give them an Rx for their purchase, since a good mattress is one of the most important things one can do for their health.
A couple of years ago I finally wore out my mattress and could feel the springs as I played down. I felt terrible, all aspects of my life was hampered a bit, and I didn't know why until my parents replaced it. It can not be overpaid how important good sleep is for the body.
This is nothing more than tax envision and tax fraud... this is the problem with healthcare to begin with. 🤦
@@timothymcintire5747 IDK as for me a basic IKEA spring matress (not the cheapest one tho) is totally fine. Are those fancy ones really that much better?
you know whats worse than a care sales man? a mattress salesman 🤣🤣🤣
400-800 in SALES TAX? What’s the percentage you pay in sales tax down there?
It's sucks this is the one thing I agree with Libs on. A trillion middle-man that has absolutely nothing to do with health shouldn't have existed in the 1st-place. And when you cause millions of people to suffer for profit, you should 100% expect this outcome. It's "crazy" not to expect this. We live in a world where people will off- you for much less!
I'm glad someone else said it. It is ridiculous how polarizing this has become and why. I could of told any person this when I was in middle school! I don't care how much money a person has, push enough people too far and it will end badly for you. It only takes one person to end another's life.
this is the free market dude what are you a communist?
@@timothymcintire5747 I don't think it's really polarizing at all. The media owned by billionaires have a vested interest in making it sound polarizing. I think if anything they're alarmed the left an right everyday people are more or less unified on not giving a shit Brian was killed. The bulk of people who care are the mega wealthy.
I love how they say Penny murdered a man, dude died 2 hours after the fact of drug complications and personal health problems
@unbroken1010 Anyone could have, have you considered no one had pepper spray/mace?
not to mention cops didnt provide emergency services because they were scared of getting hiv /aids from the guy.
@@Shishomuru nobody had a medieval flail or a laser gun either
I've had back surgery on my L4/5. I had to wait over a year. The problem with waiting that long is the unbearable pain you get from the sciatica. Mine was under my right kneecap....you can't stand or walk. The only reason they operated on me after a year of suffering was because I caught "cauda equina." I couldn't piss anymore because I was losing feeling in the lower half of my body, and if they didn't operate immediately I'd be paralyzed for life. Ten years later because of permanent nerve damage I'm still using a walking stick.
Thats sad to hear.
I'm sorry to hear that.. This has convinced me to go ahead and get the surgery for my sciatica. I've been struggling with pt and low inflammation nutrition to get my sciatica under control.. and it always comes back after the steroids fade.... But I'm not optimistic that my health insurance would even cover me for it
i mean im sure before that you didnt take care of your health and didn't exercise or eat good so it was only a matter of time. you could have changed that but it wasnt important enough for you. cool
oh shit, I had a similar surgery on L4 L5 back in 2016. It only took about 1month waiting period. And it is in fking Canada lol. I have numb under both kneecaps too.
I too have Cauda equina syndrome. I had a similar surgery in 2017. L5 S1. When people ask I just say spinal decompression or back surgery because not many people heard or know the issues that come along with Cauda equina syndrome. Life is never the same afterwards
A murderer took out a serial killer
Probably the most accurate take on this
One death is a tradegy , a million a statistic : Joseph Stalin ooof
@@bc9554 not probably. straight up.
You do know that both medicare and medicaid both deny claims, right? Are the people in charge of those programs also serial killers? What about the Canadian health system that used "medical assistance in dying" as a cost-cutting measure?
Sounds like a net positive
I think the bigger problem is actually the hospitals and charging ridiculous ammount for care. I saw a doctor for about 2 minutes and dude tried charging me $1500 for those 2 minutes to tell me to do what i had already come to a conclusion. The crutches were the cheapest thing i got from my visit. Luckily im fully covered by the VA.
Doctor here, hospitals have upscaled charges significantly in the past decade and a big reason is insurance. That 1500 the hospital charged you isn't usually paid in full by insurance companies. They will only give a smaller amount like 800$. This also makes it a lot harder for clinics to stay open and why healthcare monopolies exist in certain areas of the country.
Insurance Companies could adopt the Medicare/Mediaid as their Standard. Menu Price for every treatment that is automatically approved, but they set a price for wether the Physician accept or deny the insurance.
2021 I had a ladder fall, I was bleeding pretty good. I tried one of those 24 hour clinics, they told me to go to the ER. 9 stitches ended up costing $4,500. I don't have insurance, so the hospital was willing to lower it to $1,800 and I made no interest payments for 18 months. Every year I get a thing from the IRS telling me they know I don't have health insurance and I'm eligible for a $10 a month plan via Healthcare gov, I check the site and find out the $10 a month plan has a $10,000 deductible and provide basically no coverage at all.
@@spyderav8r wtf 10k lmao
@steak5599 Physicians in hospitals don't have a say whether that hospital accepts certain insurance. In private clinics, physicians are able to do what they wish whether it's insurance or cash/concierge. Medicare is the standard for all insurance companies so they don't get sued. Big example is steroid injections used to be given freely as long as it was 2 weeks apart. Now you're only allowed 4 a year. Medicare was the first one to set the 4 a year standard now all insurance companies have that standard. Just giving info I hate insurance companies and the ambiguity
Meanwhile in europe, removing a kidney stone, staying 3 nights in the hospital in a very nice room, 80 euros…
“Very nice room” 😂😂 yeah tell me about it
I was at the hospital for 4 days and it was so awful I left against doctors advice who said I should stay for at least 10 days
Yup and millions wait, and thousands die waiting. But glad you got cheap care, that's uh neat I guess?
😂The EU copeuim
@@smileybagels Yeah no, that doesn't happen. Our system isn't perfect, like no system is, but urgent care is always prioritized, especially in cases where a patient would die without treatment. Claiming otherwise shows your ignorance. Nothing more.
you say that as if you have some knowledge, while I am looking at reports from various sources such as the times and the OECD. I know ignorance is bliss but the EU is not a bastion of healthcare, but please lecture me more with your, 'opinions'.
You forget Asmongold, we the people do not have to LET the government take things away from us.
The problem is that the government isn't involved with health insurance and they should be the ones overseeing all aspects of the health care system so the people aren't being preyed upon... in this case, yes, the government should take away needing health insurance
Then maybe the government doesn't have to provide healthcare to you at all. Maybe they could simply ban healthcare and make you fix yourself if you can. There, now nobody can complain about a system screwing them over. Good luck.
@@MatI-cc6ld "the government isn't involved in health insurance"
The government can oversee any industry that's kind of their definitional job.
Even if y'all want to cling to this antique company based healthcare system it very much still is the governments place to regulate industry, and the peoples job to tell the government we're mad as well and not going to take it anymore.
Take away what? The ACA and Medicare options they provide? This reads like a misguided attack on the government. If anything they need to create or enforce a better healthcare system.
Every other developed country in the world has some form of universal healthcare. Which means they either have a indvidual mandate system and heavily regulate private insurance or heathcare is paid with taxes or a combination of both.
jury selection is gonna be rough for this case that is for sure.
was thinking the same thing. Might have to look overseas lol 😅
They will fill the entire bank with nothing but CEOs.
Not really. That BC poll showed 41% of young people found the murder acceptable, meaning 59% of those young voters didn't. Considering that's the demographic that likely supports the murder the most (more mature people don't support murder), there seems to be an overwhelming overall majority that doesn't find murder acceptable. They're probably not going to atruggle finding people for the jury. Remember, the echo chamber of the internet doesn't represent general public opinion. I know it's cool to live in internet fantasy land, but the world isn't a fairy tale. Reality hits, and it hits hard.
i saw pictures of the first jury selected and it was all people with grey hair
Tell that to Soros.
Yet to some of these people, Daniel Penny's the murderer.
Same goes for Kyle Rittenhouse.
To some people neither penny nor Luigi are .
Rittenhouse didn't act to murder, Penny didn't act to murder...Luigi absolutely acted to murder.
While I don't necessarily think it was wrong because American insurance and healthcare is INSANE and needs change...he still absolutely is the only murderer out of the 3.
@@parramaniac6155correct
@@parramaniac6155this. A simple fact that nobody recognizes. Yet the same bunch of folks don’t recognize that these insurance executives absolutely had it coming.
My best friend in college fell skateboarding and cracked his skull. Bleeding like crazy.
We had to trick him to get him to the ER cause he said he didn’t have insurance.
Got him there and the ER said if we would have waited later he would have died.
Healthcare needs a reform
my friend did that and we could see the grey matter from his brain coming out of his ears. he went on to be a successful musician and husband with a family...cant speak for the bills though. just happy he made it.
They should make an appeal to the Mushroom Kingdom embassy.
Unfortunately Luigi also fire flower'd the mushroom kingdom healthcare CEO
@ mama Mia
I dislocated my jaw in 2022 And I had my grandmother call the ambulance because I couldn't talk or close my mouth, The ambulance got there and said we recommend that your grandmother takes you because if we take you that's $4,000 and the hospital is maybe 3 mi away.. So I opt for my grandmother to take me and suffered in the car sitting in traffic at every red light and it felt like the longest 3 miles of my life. I was shaking and I couldn't stop shaking.. My right jaw was the one that was dislocated but the fatigue of my left jaw was very overwhelming... And even with insurance and everything when I got to the hospital and they reset my jaw or whatever 2 weeks later I got a bill in the mail for 3K..
For what it's worth, a ride in an ambulance isn't exactly comfy. You're strapped to a bench laying down and in a non life threatening emergency they're not going to be getting there much faster. I'm sure the ride there sucked, but it wouldn't have been any better with EMS.
Eu is not better, here you go to emergency, they check you, and you get a 8 month wait just for an mri scan unless you are actually dying or exagerate like crazy, if you have a knee problem or any injury that is not ''life threatening'' it will go cronic when it might have been fixed in a couple months of therapy or a sugery, but when they treat you its usually to late, and if you dont like to make drama or you handle the pain well they will not take you seriously unless you are literally crying from the pain or bleeding badly
@@itsausername it could be faster because the ambulance get the right of way, plus he could be administered some painkiller to ease the fatigue/pain.
Not more comfortable for sure, but faster
@@itsausername if its anything like here in the UK then if you are taken by ambulance you pretty much skip a large part of the triage of the ER.
$4.000 is insane bro, i couldn't' imagine not being able to take an ambulance because of money... Honestly the biggest downsides of a public healthcare system is limited resources, America is/was the greatest country on earth however this wouldn't be an issue if immigration is kept in check, like how can it let its citizens be taken advantage of like this even with good insurance you still get screwed.
I live in a small practically broke country (Greece) yet an ambulance call will cost you 0 euros even if you have no insurance. You are telling me that US ''cannot afford'' to have a public health care system, yet you can afford giving Zelensky bazillions for a war he was going to lose from day 1. Talking about priorities...
If my mum had died because of the insurance refusing to pay I would of done the same thing. No joke.
My mum passed away from cancer in a hospice and I'm investigating the hospice because I'm positive they knowingly ODed her I have found 12 other family's with the same story but I'm building a case. In the UK they are not allowed to assist suicide.
I'm sorry to hear that your mum passed away from Cancer and wish you luck on your case
Well pipe down a bit before they luigi u lol good luck sorry for your loss
We literally passed a law recently didn’t we about assisted suicide? You need 2 doctors to agree to sign you out.
If you did that you would rot in a dungeon like him.and we would be laughing at you.
Dont throw your life away
midazolam ? From Luigi
550$/month on average.... It's something like 23k/year for my family for medical & denta. There's zero doctors or dentists in my network accepting patients within 100 miles.
Yeah my wife's clinic decided to stop doing primary care and so she was orphaned from care and had nowhere to go for serious issues for a few months. Doctors offices either refused new patients or now have basically job application forms to see if they want to take you. IDK if they do this, but they ask if you have medical issues presently so I wouldn't be surprised if they went "eh too much hassle" and only took people with minor issues.
Remember everyone, Luigi Mangione did NOT commit toaster bath
He doesnt know anything that anyone cares about so he'll go through the normal legal process
They are just going to sentence him to death using the clear video evidence.
@@Acotoeven with the probability of a hung jury? 😂😂😂 I don't see him making it to conviction... The odds are too high he walks...
of course he didn't /wouldn't "commit toaster bath" because he is too narcissistic and self centered to do it.. he thinks he is the "main character".. but he is just a spoiled rich kid that got mad he was told no..
Wtf is wrong with you.
CEO deletions will continue until morale improves.
Please dont do it Asmon will cry harder because hes scared.
It wont help anything. It will make them cut off even more people cause youll piss em off
I bet they have a list of the "good CEOs"
It never gets old
i live in iran, my dad had a very heavy surgery just last month he needed to completely remove he's bladder and etc... he was at the hospital for 2 weeks and had 3 surgeries
at the end the whole cost was about 150$ but with our low tier insurance we paid around 30$
and it was for 2 whole week of care, food, all the equipment and 3 surgeries
its kinda crazy to me how much medical care cost in us
Plus I'll bet he got time off from work with pay for the surgeries and recovery period
Most funny thing, in most countries urgent care is almost free. I was in ER yesterday, payed 7 euros for 2 doctors to check me and MRI scan. I don't even consider it a "pay". In US urgent care is far more expensive than regular.
that would have cost the life savings of people here in the usa. a scan to see if you had a kidney stone cost $1200 usd... with insurance.. and that is just for the scan... not counting the drs bill for the visit or the referral fee for the hospital.
@@Lightbulb-W because their government care, OURs? DON'T.
I don't buy this for A SECOND.
There’s no way to remove the profit motive. Even if you make it government run healthcare, the people running it will want to get paid
No, yeah, we're mega fucked in the future, they're gonna make the cyberpunk trauma team look like angels.
If it was government ran, it could be ran just like the other government insurance companies like the FDIC. Government ran insurance isn’t new. Nobody ever complains about the FDIC besides the harassment scandal.
@@Rollerblader091The FDIC is completely different to healthcare. It only gives back people money they already had, which is fair and achievable.
However with healthcare each person wants infinite money so they can get a luxury product and preferential treatment over others.
Just give ‘em extra store credit
Profits are not the same thing as getting paid. Employees can get paid without the organization making a profit. This is done by shoveling money into a system that is losing it. This is all government programs by the way, because the government generates billions in revenue through taxes.
This works in every other first world country by the way.
12 year RN here - and my dad went through something similar to your father, Asmon. He was taking 10mg valiums for about twenty years for sleep and ptsd/anxiety, and due to venous stasis in his legs from diabetes had very bad chronic pain, was given a script or two of percocet, then morphine tablets, and then out of the blue in 2015, a year before he died, they cut him off almost everything, my dad was a 100% disabled priority 1 Vietnam veteran. The government is fucking dirty. 🤬 I see everyday as a nurse - insurance denying life altering and life saving medications, and it makes me sick. I do all I can to advocate for my patients, but insurance companies constantly shut us down from doing proper treatments. Luigi's family ran nursing homes - the environment I've primarily worked in for more than half my nursing career. You get very jaded against the "healthcare as a business" model when you get so close with residents that many feel like family or friends. Maybe that's where Luigi is coming from? I don't condone violence or murder but that POS CEO had it coming to him. 😑
I'm having the same problem where I work with Optum suddenly not covering any of the diabetic medications and forcing them all onto new experimental drugs that don't work. Insurance is doing horrible things to our patients
It should not be the insurance company making the decision, it should be an independent dr. mediator between the treating hospital and the insurance company. This would stop a hospital doing unnecessary work and charging insurance....and stop the insurance company refusing essential treatment. As long as the insurance company is the one that decides whether treatment happens, they will always say no to save money.
You guys are so right and I appreciate that you see where I'm coming from. A lot of my diabetic patients are being denied from one type of insulin to another, being denied Ozempic (which, I'm not a fan of the drug due to the long-term issues I've seen and what I foresee for people taking it that don't actually need to for diabetes management). But it does help some patients too with badly managed diabetes and there's no reason it should cost so much when it's widely available now, no reason for it to be denied if a doctor signed off on it. No reason we should pay hundreds to thousands a month under employer healthcare benefits to only be denied the first time we go to a provider for help, for instance. I'm tired of wasting my money to never use my insurance except for ER visits when something acute happens, because I cannot afford to go to the doctor. I almost went septic over a badly infected back tooth while awaiting dental insurance benefits to kick in last year. Delta dental covered the appointment cost and 1 x-ray. I had to pay full out of pocket costs of over $200 for an in-office tooth extraction. I was lucky to be able to afford it - or I could be dead. I had a very good old-school dentist that insisted on removing the tooth asap - whereas 2 previous dentists told me it had to be SURGICALLY removed. That would've costed me thousands of dollars! My old school dentist (who retired this year sadly) saved me thousands despite having to pay out of pocket, and he SAVED my life. Insurance companies are crooked AF, continue to steal our money, and continue to kill people every day, yet they get away with it! 😭 Back in the day, 10-12 years ago, Delta dental was great, they paid for half of a front upper crown (6 teeth in total) free cleaning yearly, etc. But they're just as sketchy as United Healthcare these days. 😑
90% error rate is not negligence, it's by design
We arre still arguing about legislations for IA to drive cars, for safety measures and liability, and it is the right to do but letting IA choose basicaly who's gonna live and who's gonna die is the most cyberpunk thing I ever seen, some looby have actualy done some good job right there, dammmmn
"How could we possibly prevent this?" Says only country on earth where this happens
As a european this is crazy. You only pay like 100usd if you call an ambulance without reason.
At least give credit to The Onion when you're going to rip their headlines.
@@enricofischer1330100? Add another zero to that number.
in canada you just die in the hallway waiting to see someone
@@beansdestroyerand the rich people just fly to the US or Germany when the Canadian healthcare system fails them, especially our politicians.
11:26 It’s funny that they call them “consumers” when they should be called “patients.”
That's what I've been thinking! They are patients not customers, wtf is wrong with people?
Hopper: if one ant stands up to us, then they might all stand up .
These puny little ants out number up 100 to 1, if they figure this out there goes our way of life.
Its not about food, its about keeping those ants in line.
A bugs life was ahead of its time and hoppers speech is extremely relevant to this current situation
No one else will stand up bc they’re cowards
Ahead of its time? Marx, Lennin, Engels and co were saying pretty much that 100 years ago my man. Too bad people see the word communism and they shit their pants.
This comment was already posted in this comments section lol
He posted it 2 minutes after i posted it lol
@@GokuSolosAnime He says typing from his phone. Most people don't stand up because it's literally irrelevant. Nothing will change. The quote makes sense on the surface, but holds no bearing in real life. If there was a need we would all die in a nuclear war, what in the world do you think humans can do against the government, truly? Besides, people used to die from polio while working in a asbestosmine to feed their one child still alive (who's also a coworker of him) -- im sure your life is pretty decent overall. Considering you're probably going to type out an angry reply on a phone or computer sitting on your ass in a streamer's random youtube video.
Every psycho has a rationalization of their actions. Just because this one aligns with everyone (and mine) does not mean he somehow is sane or did it for a good cause. It's just how luck works -- sometimes it turns in your favour, and other times they shit in a pizza to destroy democracy manifest.
Politicians are the ones leaving these loopholes to be exploited.
* being paid to leave them.
The middle class is fucked. There's no benefit to making more than 50k. You pay more taxes, healthcare is no longer covered and you get less government help. It's almost easier to stay broke 😭 unless you make like 150k+
Almost like it was planned by someone........
On the east coast I am making about $15K over the limit to qualify for benefits. I need to pay $3K a year just for the shittiest insurance my company offers where the plan has a $3000 deductible and doesn't cover copay. I had to get an MRI which was $2.5K that I am paying $5 a month on to keep collections away. My medications for chronic lower back pain and all sorts of copay average out to about $1K a year in cost. None of this includes dental and vision plan costs.
Once you account for taxes and costs such as not having access to EBT to nullify the rising food costs, I make about the same as someone who does qualify for benefits. I know I can look for another job but it feels like this pattern will just continue and I'm tired boss. The option to just work a low end job and take in benefits keeps getting more appealing.
Good luck in the rat race everyone.
Lol What middle class? It doesn't exist anymore. It's been gone for 15+ years.
Oy vey @@thegrimyeaper
there are some jobs that fully cover healthcare for you and your whole family.
i've had to decline a startup with a higher salary because while it was a higher salary their health insurance as part of the benefits package did not cover my family (only paid employee premium). my wife's job doesn't offer health insurance, so to add my wife and kid it wouldve practically ate up all the additional salary so I had to decline..
It’s weird how people don’t understand that you can be against healthcare for profit and still condemn the act that Luigi did.
People would be more willing to feel bad about that CEO if they could even remotely trust in the justice system. They know these rich people never pay for their wrongdoings.
Well adjusted people have zero problem feeling bad for someone who was murdered.....its only lunatics cheering about this. That man had a family
The most infamous being the Monsanto Company, and the Sackler family.
The insurance companies don't set the prices at ridiculous amounts... talk to the hospitals. Insurance companies are businesses, Healthcare just costs way way way too much. We're blaming the wrong people. Blame the doctors and hospitals charging what they charge for Healthcare. Have a child and then look at the bill. That's the hospital charging that much.
What were his wrongdoings???
@ericstaples7220 he guided his company to create optum, a Healthcare system under United that on paper focuses on preventative medications and treatments. In practice what it does is cuts them off from their family doctors locally and forces them to use United Healthcare Doctors who then proceed to prescribe patients United Healthcare approved medications, many of which don't work or aren't as effective as the medications their REAL doctors prescribe. I'm currently trying to negotiate to get Optum out of my place of work because they are literally killing diabetics by putting them on sub par medications and insulins that are cheaper for them to use but have horrible outcomes for patients A1C and blood glucose levels which causes them problems both down the line and now.
Thats just ONE example. There's a sea of other examples where United essentially strongarms patients into accepting negative outcomes and tend not to pay whenever possible which is over 1/3rd of the time. They also have a tendency of calling life saving surgeries 'cosmetic' and not wanting to pay for them in the hopes of you just either eating the cost yourself by being desperate enough or dying before your appeal goes through.
This was under Brian's leadership.
Health care pro tip:
Stop going to the ER unless ur going to die that day without help. Go to urgent care to get same day care that's not an emergency. It will cost 10 times less. Broken arm? Ur not going to die, go to urgent care.
Thanks
I still go to the ER.
I even call an ambulance.
A very good tip. Honestly more layman health education to raise awareness to differentiate which one which will save a lot of money
Better tip: Fix your country lol
Even better tip: activists don't know shit, let them cry over profit. Cut the regulations.
We don't need to publicly approve what Mangione did. Let him go to prison for an appropriate amount of time. Let CEOs know there's people willing to do the time, tho.
Both things can coexist, you don't need to free him.
In all truthfulness, the conviction of KNOWING people are willing to do the time might scare them straight enough... though I fear a few more examples would have to be done
Honestly if we're going for entertainment, see these CEOs start having PMC Umbrella-Corp type security that just WASTES anyone who even tries to attack them. It would be stupid for them not to at this point, it's insane to me homie didn't have it.
I personally know way 'smaller' CEOs who have full time, everywhere, everyplace armed security, and that's just for a sandpaper company lol. Zero controversy, their insurance requires him to have that security to get coverage.
Theres not even proof he did it 🤣 everyone is triiiippppin
He can cope and cry all he needs but it’s a majority that supports Luigi.
Yup, i dont support luigi's actions but i support the intent behind them. and i am not even american.
Patient: Help me I'm dying
AI: Your fine
He did what everyone fantasized about doing but logically and empathetically will not do
My fantasy was to use the legal system to undo the legal system that made this insurer a fucking institution.
Obama did this. I remember when health insurance was a rare thing.
the gathering have collective IQ of 100
@@RobertMorgan I don't think Obama invented private healthcare and medical insurance. I'm not american, but i remember this being a problem in the US for a long time before Obama.
It was in fact his empathy for others that made him do this, if you think about it. You lack empathy.
@@hunger4wonderuhh the problem literally started with him. Forcing people to legally have health insurance DROVE up prices exponentially. We didn't have this problem before 2008, wonder why? Its almost as if millions of people predicted Obama was going to ruin the medical field. Shit, even I knew it at the age of 16, as my research paper in high school was literally about how this would happen.
I wish i could be as isolated from the world as Asmond. I spend 775 a month for really shitty insurance.
Dude just cancel it and put it in a savings account. You'll probably have more money for healthcare that way
What is your income, because I pay nothing
@@redsodium8109 Then medical bill would be $1Mil. There is no winning. Either pay $700 plus 20k more or get denied or pay $1Mil
I wish I made enough money to blow $700 on insurance I'm not even using
@@redsodium8109 honestly, true af
Luigi is the 2025 Harambe. We going to have bumper stickers and coffee mugs
My dad was put on oxycodone after a intestinal surgery, he was supposed to be on it for a few months while recovering from the surgery but it took him 2 years to get off the stuff. He wasn't anything close to himself while stepping down the dose, he was either passed out in the couch or frantically walking around the house as if he's searching for something while scratching himself til he bleeds, his face and arms were scarred from all the scratching afterwards. He had hardly any positive emotions, only irritability and disinterest in anything. He would snap at my mother and be rude which is extremely unlike him, I never saw him do that ever before. I was terrified I would never get my dad back but he's been clean for almost 2 years now. Opiates can easily ruin your life, be carefull.
The Sacklers never faces consequences for what they unleashed on the population.
YOUR'E LAUGHING? MARIO IS MISSING AND YOU'RE LAUGHING?!
How about another joke Murray?
who's gonna save the princess now?
My brother quit being a doctor. He said he wanted a profession. But it was an industry.
😂😂😂
You forgot to add in "Once upon a time"
LoL, all professions exist in industries.
He should have gone with a solo practice.
@@GloomSkullCandy Solo or not, it's hard to find an honest one.
I love hearing Asmon’s dad. He has so much wisdom since he’s lived through a lot.
The real problem isn't wether Luigi Mangione goes to jail for "terrorism" it's why the US government continues to allow health insurance companies to deny covered claims with a large percentage denying necessary and fatal insurance claims causing permanent disability and/or death.
It's completely legal in the United States.
The CEO who was executed by Luigi(allegedly) was over the most corrupt healthcare insurance actor UnitedHealth which had a 34% denial rate and even more with delaying claims causing postponed treatment and sometimes the inability to be helped in time.
There needs to be ethical laws that force these companies to save the lives of Americans.
If you had the ability to save someone's life who's about to die, would you do it for free?
Or would you reject treatment because they can't pay you tens of thousands of dollars?
If I wanted to keep my job to feed my family, you bet your ass I'm denying them.
Point the figure around. If you think a companies job is to be benevolent than I ask you what is the purpose of a government and what does the term regulations mean?
Be angry at those you elected good lord
Calling that "terrorism" is also a problem and if people don't react to that is just going to be used for everything, soon just talking against the government will be seen as "terrorism".
It's already happening in EU.
And yet the law makers in our country are bought by the insurance companies
None of what you are rambling about matters… murder is still never ok… I don’t care what business practices are going on… you do not kill in cold blood.
Anyone defending this murderer is just as disgusting of a human as he is. 😒
i appreciate Luigi for exposing this. i just took 10 stitches out of my fingertip the other week so i didnt have to pay.
everyone wants to paint this CEO as a father, a husband ect... but thats not all he was. this known 90% incorrect denial thing guaranteed killed ppl. and i dont get upset when someone kills a murderer. now i dont agree his murder is ok, but i dont think its a travesty either
Saddam Hussein and mao were fathers too.
What if we get rid of UHC and the claims denial rate immediately goes to 100% for tens of millions? Is that better?
we never consider that.
The insane thing is: Health insurance in US is about 9k / year / person. And for a person who earns 100 k a year, the tax rate is 22%. So 9k for health insurance is 9 % of income. That is after taxes, this changes the calculation a bit, but to just simplify lets say that you pay 31 % of your income to tax + health care. And im not converting currencies to keep it even simpler.
Now lets take a free healthcare example country, Finland:
If you earn 100k per year, your tax rate is 31%. On top of this, in finland, you pay about 7,5 % of your income to retirement fund, which is mandatory. But ofcourse in the US, you pay the same, its just voluntary and % might be different. And you also get low cost daycare for kids, free education, etc in finland with your taxes.
This is naturally a simplification, but essentially with the system US has you pay the same amount if you want healthcare as you would if healthcare was included in taxes, this would just mean that EVERYONE gets healthcare. And you actually get less now since its 31% just for healthcare + taxes, when in finland you get a whole lot more on top of that than just healthcare.
its actually worse than that even, half of the federal budget already goes to healthcare, we wouldnt have to increase much at all if prices were in line with other developed countries, but the healthcare industry and insurance companies have incentives to raise prices for profit
Off a 15 year morphine and vallium "dependence" is 90 days is insane, asmondad doing surprisingly well after that.
Of course he's doing well, he got off all that poison lmao
@martinduncan2639 you dont even understand the immense suffering.
@@Zaque-TV What a stupid thing for you to say.
@@Zaque-TV How do you know that?
My mother took pain killers for decades like your dad did due to chronic pain from a number of health conditions and the same thing was done to her. I don't know about your dad's case but with my mom is wasn't because of the insurance it was pressure from the government to not prescribe opioids. It wrecked her, then when she got cancer again and went on hospice because her health was too weak to go through cancer treatments she was allowed to have them again and her quality of life in her last two years was far better than the previous 6 months. We were in the situation she likely lived longer with cancer than she would have without it.
Was Luigi even found guilty yet? We don't even know if he actually did it or if the police are just taking the piss yet and they're already protesting for his release like he actually did it.
What happened to innocent until proven? No way can this guy get a fair trial.
There's so many odd things about it too, looks like he's being set up to me.
There is already plenty of evidence. He marked his bullets, wrote a note and was caught on video.
That he shot a guy isn’t in question. What’s his defense? He must have one since he pled not guilty.
One thing for sure is it’s not going to be he didn’t do it.
There are other defenses to murder.
@jeremymullens7167 "he" marked the bullets, "he" wrote the note!!! Do you hear yourself? How do you know he did that? Because they told you!
The CCTV images of the killer exposed only his eyes yet someone in McDonald's recognised him a week later and he had the gun in his pocket!! The images of the killer were replaced in all the media with doctored images of Luigi at McDonald's. It stinks
@jeremymullens7167 you're right, he will be found guilty regardless of whether he is or not, he won't get a fair trial
@@BeaHindebars Are you pretending to not understand what the person you replied to wrote? Because that is pretty much the opposite of what they said. They said that there is overwhelming evidence that he committed the crime, but we just don't know why he claims he did not, or what he thinks could possibly have justified what he did to think he could even possibly not get a guilty verdict (like one example of that happening is, technically self defense killing is still 1st degree voluntary manslaughter, but you're not charged because it's justified). Because your sentence is longer if there is clear evidence you committed a crime and you plead not guilty, since you swore to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
The defense attorneys in cases will typically tell their client to plead guilty and make a deal with the prosecutor to lighten their sentence when there's so many signs that their client committed a crime, so he must be thinking something justifies him doing it if he went with a not guilty plea.
I pay about $100 a month for UHC . can never reach my deductible, I had claims denied many times, gone through my entire savings. I suffer with chronic pain, peripheral neuropathy, sciatica, and degenerative disk disease. I could never afford any surgery, barely afford my co pays, my prescriptions are cheaper if I DONT use my insurance.
The question that people should be asking is - why does healthcare in the U.S. cost so much?
Profit is definitely one, it's incentivised by bonuses. I wouldn't pass on Obesity being another considering the vast amount of issues that causes.
People keep conflating healthcare generally, as in the price of services, and health insurance. Not everything needs risk pooling. DPC exists. And people also keep talking around the massive Medicare/Medicaid elephant in the room, as if that massive single-payer elephant is some countervailing pressure on prices. I don't see the argument for profit incentives being the issue given the way rationing works for systems without pecuniary incentives. It sure seems more to me like there's an issue with how services are provisioned and who the negotiating entities are, where the person who actually needs the service is cut out of the decision.
1. Lobbying
2. Novel drug development
People have been asking it for decades, but unfortunately the politicians who most heavily pushed for solving the issue like Bernie Sanders (who constantly even now attacks just how bad our healthcare costs are and advocates for solutions/alternatives) have not been able to gain power over those who push identity politics instead.
Americans have chosen to not put a high priority on this issue through those they have elected. People have proven they care more about identity politics for their party than healthcare.
@@VincentWeisTheThirdhuh? Are u actually that naive? Look at European insurances. Or are you just a bot? Just looks at the costs of the exact same treatment like x ray or MRI in the US and Germany for example. Look up the cost of basic medications like insulin or an epi pen. It’s just absurd. Like what explanation do you have that Germany can provide these services for like a 10% fraction of the cost compared to the US
In the UK citizens pay on average 3268 Pounds Sterling for healthcare per capita each year. That's roughly 4110 USD year.
The benefit is they only have to pay a small deductible when they go in for basic checkups etc. However more serious surgeries or dental appointments can run the risk of long wait times due to high spikes in demand. Such spikes have occurred more often as the UK has continued to allow mass immigration into the country. This has also led to a higher number of citizens dying while on a waiting list. Private options do exist in the UK, but to my knowledge they are typically even more expensive than US options and only used by the extremely wealthy.
In the US going by the statistic in the video US citizens on average pay 550 dollars a month for health insurance. That comes up to about 6600 USD a year.
The benefit is that unlike the UK or other countries with fully socialized healthcare systems if you have the money you can get service upfront, no problem and typically without a delay, and unlike the UK wherein every citizen pays a set percentage of their income each year US citizens have the freedom to choose cheaper options, this means that if you're a fairly health individual you don't necessarily need extensive (higher priced) medical coverage.
A specific issue with the US system is that with the introduction of Obamacare health insurance was made mandatory, this added cost also led to the introduction of laxer insurance policies which allows a large swath of extremely unhealthy people the same health insurance as the rest of the country. While from an empathetic standpoint this makes sense it makes little sense in terms of cost. Insurance only works as a system when the number of people who actually 'need' it is a fairly small percentage (and this also applies to socialized healthcare systems as less cases = less strain on the system). Now the main issue is that because over a third of the US healthcare costs are attributed to obesity and the comorbidities therein outside of the upper echelon of Insurance companies they run on narrow margins. Thus their methodology is to deny claims and essentially BS their way around cost overruns.
Beyond that there is an issue in the US where our own medical costs (even before taking insurance into account) are excessively high, and this can be more so attributed to Hospitals and Pharmaceutical companies which are for profit, and make the gains made by health insurance companies look miniscule by comparison.
One of the simplest ways to lower medical costs in the US to match our prices to those worldwide, there's no reason why medication which is only 5$ in Mexico is 500$ in the US.
Mexico has cheaper healthcare because regulations are so much more lax.
All you need to do is end the lobbying. Make it illegal to pay politicians to pass laws against public interest, and set regulations back to near zero.
Solved
@@brunoverasferreira6263you didn't even read OP's comment, did you?
Its a lie, the company you work for . Is that average. We paid a little piece of that amount
We allow our pharma companies to collective bargain with everyone but us.
In NL we're forced to pay health insurance otherwise you get fined. It varies in price, I try to go for the least expensive one because I barely use my health insurance. It's 120 euros a month, but I get 110 euros from the government each month to cover it (which anyone can apply for) so I only really pay 10 bucks a month. If you skim out on owning health insurance the fine is (at least from 6 years ago) it was 500 euro fine.
Penny did nothing wrong
Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.
Luigi rizzed the wrong hotel employee.
He got arrested for a DUI and probably would have hit someone and then denied their insurance claim.😂😂😂
"Your brother is in another prison"
Underrated!
Free Luigi's Mansion!
When I worked at Walmart a little over 3 years ago, there were a couple Healthcare "options". You could have either the Dental plan, the Healthcare plan, or both. It was approx. 250$ a month, 125$ a paycheck for the Dental plan. Double that for the Healthcare plan. Both was simple, you paid for both, 750$ a month. Needless to say, I had no Healthcare at the time and did not qualify for any Medicaid or Medicare program. I only paid for the Dental plan and you have to pay for a year before the insurance will pay anything.
Luigi is a hero. Sacrificing his life to get rid of a psychopath causing millions to suffer. It's obvious that the system is broken when these psychopaths get to decide who lives and who dies. It's not complex. You have a system that's supposed to provide healthcare, instead it preys on the weak and cares only about lining the pockets of rich psychopaths.
Didn't solve anything.
@@Shillmehowtolive Got people talking. And doing nothing, would not solve anything either.
You demonstrate in this comment how much you misunderstand the health care system. The system is broken, but not because of insurance companies. The clue is in their name. INSURANCE. It should not be their responsibility to maintain our health. Our government is the problem. Our population is the problem. We live unhealthy, inactive lives and then demand insurance companies pay for the consequences. The government creates a convoluted mess of regulations and forces insurance companies to function in an impossible environment.
In short, the system is not supposed to provide healthcare. We live in a capitalist society. If we want cheap, quality health care the only way to achieve that is competition. And to pay for routine care ourselves. And to live healthy lives. And to only use insurance companies for the catastrophic issues they are designed to cover.
@@russelld2925 Maybe it's not a good idea to let capital provide basic services. "But it creates competition", yeah, competition on how to scam people out of their money.
canada has basic care but nowhere near the amount of specialists the states has. canadian medical tourism to the south is at an all time high. but heaven forbid you say there may be too many people in canada for the healthcare system to cope
For a comparison, how much "free" healthcare costs in Europe: I work in Germany and I effectively pay much more than the average American, or so it seems. Around 900 Euro in my case, half of this is directly paid by the employer, half by the employee (me). Although I never actually see the ~450 Euros I pay, because these are also directly deducted from my income, so it doesn't affect your take-home-pay. Just for transparency, the amount I gave here (~900 Euro) is the maximum amount a single person needs to pay for healthcare in Germany, as this amount is based on income, up to an upper limit, which is called the "Beitragsbemessungsgrenze", the "contribution assessment ceiling", which limits how much a person pays for social security (with contains contributions to unemployment insurance, healthcare etc.). I "unfortunately" (\s) earn above this limit, which means I have to pay the maximum amount, and it would probably be cheaper to switch to a private healthcare insurance, not the mandatory state provided one.
Please let Americans have the delusion of free healthcare.a
The American left is delusional
I questioned what the dude said but I googled it. So yeah it's 358 euro if you make 85000 euro a year. The average cost here is $477 which is comparable to yours, but we pay deductibles, and are frequently denied. So yeah we're paying way more overall with shit coverage. Idk why my fellow Americans think we have the better system
@@mike60061 where do you get 358 Euros from? You can easily verify what I said, because these percentages are fixed. As a toy example, a single person with 72000 Euros of income a year (brutto, so before any deductions) pays 462.77 × 2 Euros, this value only varies by the percentage of "healthcare provider additional contribution" amount, which each healthcare provider can set themselves, which ranges from 1%-2.5%. This is the maximum amount. Your 85000 Euro a year example would pay the same.
the difference is when you need it you have it, there are no surprise fees that will wish that you where dead
Asmongold having a braindead take right there. "The definition of terrorism is using violence to achieve political goals." No, that's what the government does. He forgot the most important part of the terrorism definition. Terrorism is using INDISCRIMINATE VIOLENCE against RANDOM people for political goals. Luigi had a clear target, which would upgrade him to the definition of freedom fighter.
DUde is not right in the slightest with Daniel Penny. Daniel has been tried and found innocent by a jury. There is no comparison. These Cosplayers are a stain on our society.
These people live in a closed off society. The thing about people like this is that even if you started out at the "bottom" like everyone else, they got out. They still act like they are there though comparing their experiences back then with today's standards. Wait till they are in the line of fire then they will agree really fast.
People be looking at Luigi like he is one of the Boondock Saints.
there was a FIIIRE FIIIIGHT
Because he is!
$550 was just what I paid. My employer paid another $550. Then there was the $6000 deductible. Meaning a total of about $19,000 had to be paid out of pocket before insurance would actually kick in.
No one is paying those 19000, the system is specifically designed so that it does NOT get paid. The hospital takes the loss (that's why the invoice is so high), meaning they won't pay any taxes. Hospitals in the US cannot legally execute the debt in any way, they can't repo your stuff or affect your credit score. If you pay those 19000 you're outright stupid.
My dad had to stay in an assisted living facility after a surgery, I saw the invoices that went to Medicare, $30,000 a MONTH. Thank god for the VA and 100% disability.
I signed for his two prosthetic legs the last time he got new ones, Left was $21,000, the right was $26,000. Zero out of pocket.
27:48 Dad watching stream, calls in for a truth fix, just wholesome. Despite what’s being discussed. That was cool to see.
50:49 The legal definition of terrorism is actually somewhat complex, and distinct from how it is defined for the purpose of common parlance. LegalEagle had a vid where he spoke to a former NY prosecutor about it, who said that the Alvin Bragg DA office might be setting themselves up for failure on that count. Doesn't mean Luigi isn't going to prison forever, does mean they might struggle to convict him of first degree murder (which can carry the death penalty). Might be worth a watch.
The legal definition of terrorism could not possibly be any simpler: it is a vague wishy-washy bullshit term that doesn't belong within a quadrillion light-years of a courtroom. It's like saying "cooties" is a medical diagnosis.
The FBI definition is literally most protesting, using violence to attempt to force a change in government action or policy. That happened with a National Defense Auth Act a few years back. It's deliberately vague. It's on their website, you can read it for yourself.
I live in Canada and a have more than a few senior customers that lived in Arizona, Texas and Florida. They came back after a few minor health problems their super expensive health insurance stopped covering. Despite the fact one of them made over 250k until retirement, they burned him for millions on his wife's cancer treatments. Then he got diabetes. They came back with less than half of their retirement just trying to survive a few years down there. You can be rich and die homeless in a few years... thats America for you.
I totally agree the system is fucked, however, it is his own fault for "getting" diabetes. It is 100% a dietary choice, which is also part of the problem. The man ate himself to death and the US economy squeezed him dry along the way.
I knew a guy whose blood pressure was 200 one time. He didn't want to go to doctor. He died on stroke in his sleep
I think that the guy had every right to be mad but i also believe that violence and murder have to be punished under law
telling me on avg we pay 500/m for insurance and they can still deny deny deny you. yet luigi is the bad guy.
Not a bad guy to the common people but the status quo. Government and companies need to keep people complacent and feeling helpless to sustain massive profits.
Do you know how much medicine costs?
@@ericstaples7220 significantly higher in the US compared to the rest of the world due to people like Brian Thompson
@@09666slayer Is that even true of the government paid health insurance in this country, or the cost of services that the consumers don't pay for like homeless people getting emergency care? Is the rationing and delay deny defend practices better in Pareto optimal terms for other countries?
It's not that simple.
@@ericstaples7220artificially high prices. Lots of people I know buy their medicine in Mexico and cross it back here. They save a lot of money and the medicine is good as they’ve been doing it a long time.
It happens during their "most vulnerable moments" cause thats when people will pay the most
She does know that MLK, Nelson Mandela, and Gandhi advocated peace right? Wouldn't shoot anyone? I'm not saying I condemn Luigi (if found guilty) but she needs to see that one of these things is not like the other.
idk gandhi is pretty trigger happy with nukes
Nelson Mandela was part of an organisation that used violence
err no? all of them at their time were inciting violence and were either directly or indirectly supporting actual terror groups and murder.
wokelicans citing mlk as le wholesome chungus blackerino is just insane get a spine
"A riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?...It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" -John F. Kennedy
as an EU citizen, living in US is genuinely terrifying to me. What an absolute mess of a society.
I am an american living in the US and all I can say is... Welcome to the jungle brother grab a spear. Chaos incarnate and survival of the fittest here.
Be me: Guy hit me on the wrong side of the road. Fractured spine, Ambulance ride ride later, Dr walks in and she says "Guess who's getting a Helicopter ride?" Me: "NOOOO. No. NOOOO HELL NO that's like $25,000!" She assured me it was covered, she was right and ironically at the time in 2018 it was UHC, but holy shit I was ready for bankruptcy from start to finish. Luckily everything worked out, surgery was a success, I can walk, run, lift and have a stronger spine than ever. I paid about 5k, insurance paid $272,000.
If you buy the helicopter ambulance MEMBERSHIP that ride is FREEEEEE. It's $25/year and super cheap insurance, my employer pays it for all of us because if we need it, it saves us 5 figures.
Well see, that's what insurance actually is for. It is supposed to be a pool of money to pay for disasters, because most people won't experience a disaster like that, everyone can pay in a relatively small amount and be covered.
Somehow we've conflated insurance with healthcare, and that makes zero sense because everyone needs healthcare. It'd be cheaper for everyone to just pay out of pocket for regular care in a free market system.
@@RobertMorgan That's actually not bad damn. I got hit on my Motorcycle, went flying 45 feet and did a front flip. I still have scar tissue damage to my right leg on my upper calf of a perfect imprint of the handle bar that hit it while I was getting ejected. My spine bowed fast during the hit and fractured my spine. Took 9 months to recover fully, and 5 years of my own physical fitness to restore muscle and support for my back. I can honestly say I never expected Life Star to give me a ride. The somber part of the story was that I was fully conscious. The pilots were talking to me, but they said "this never happens. Usually people are dying or unconscious with us". Never got on a bike since. Riding was the joy of my life.
@@martinduncan2639 Agreed I'm originally from Brazil. Coming to the US was a shock for sure when dealing with the healthcare programs. Co-pay? Coverage? As a kid I didn't understand, but wen I got my first job, having to select insurance premiums and take away pay... was quite a shock.
This is like punishing Pol Pot's killer, except if Pol Pot's controlled every government on the planet. And So As a result, he could portray himself as a victim, despite being responsible for killing millions and ruining the lives of tens of millions for his own greed.
Anyways, free my boy Luigi, because there are still thousands of Pol Pot's left on this planet, and we need brave men like him to help get rid of them.
Based. Cant understand the corpo bootlickers in asmons comments, and asmon himself on this matter.
Luigi did nothing wrong.
Based. Cant understand the corpo bootlickers in asmons comments, and asmon himself on this matter.
Luigi did nothing wrong.
That "not in texas" about the drug weening hit hard, I was on Seroquil and Zoloft for 2 years and they legit cut me off immediately, no ween time, just 3 straight weeks of cold sweats
As disgusting as what the health companies do, and they should have been legally held accountable a long time ago (which would have prevented all this to start with, the gov allows this to happen to the public by these companies), still don’t think an execution style murder with a weapon is necessarily the same thing as denying someone health coverage. Which is kind of the issue in a nutshell. Because it’s done from so far away and people are just statistics to these companies, it takes the humanity out of it.
I do not condone murder but this incident has finally drawn attention to a systematic issue that literally kills people whose only crime was not being born wealthy.
Why UHC needed to pull so many plugs to unalive seniors to make $22,000,000,000 in 365 days is much more disturbing than a guy pulling the trigger.
You saw all the coverage, they don't even give half that treatment to school shooters, but this guy was shown everywhere by the government and pretty much they made an entire photo session with him, scolded by 30 policemen, and they expect people to not be pissed off? How many people get shot every single day, but hey, they are not CEOs, so let's send the local sheriff to arrest them, and free him in a few years with a bail and community service.