If you understand narcissism you can easily defeat the Rules for Radicals message. When dealing with a narcissist you don't give a positive or negative reaction(it's called the Grey Rock Method), and you either limit contact or go no contact(no contact is best). The narcissist's goal is to control you the same way Rules for Radicals teaches people to be narcissistic to control people.
#4 “send 30,000 letters so they can never reply to all of them” they tried this on Trump now for the Mueller report, he proceeded to give them 1.5 million documents lol
I had some guy try and play victim in line at the grocery store, he never asked to get in front of me, as I would have let him, instead he started audibly complaining about how self centered I was for being ahead of him. My hair is thinning, so I shave it... This moron must have thought I was something I'm not. Anyway, he kept complaining, and I said firmly, "and you are going to shoot there and whine about it", and just openly laughed at him. He kept trying to get sympathy from the manager, who must have felt like a kindergarten teacher. I don't think these Jesse smollet types should be tolerated for a minute.
LOL I'm a bit old school. When I was young, claiming to be a victim would be considered embarrassing and would often lead to more abuse directed toward you. People really need to toughen up and stop being whiny babies.
@@SociallyTriggered now I have to study counter techniques to rules for radicals, as a back hand slap would have made me seem cruel to the people who go to my grocery store, but probably been too much for snowflake pants.
@@chrisbova9686 the counter techniques is embodied in one man, DONALD J. TRUMP. The rule is basic, 1. Never apologize, never back down. 2. Always speak in the most basic of terms, and repeat the words often. 3. Attack their character as well. 4. Point out an area in which they are bad (not necessarily what you are arguing on), for example the guy trying to jump queue, point to his shoes and say it's made from China by child labour, and use to impune that he's a bad person. .. (they hate character assassination ) before trump Republicans try to argue facts. Trump has no time.He stays on border wall, jobs, and every bad idea by the left, regardless of topics, trump comes back to those issues
Yes. You can use these points to argue endlessly with others. He didn't use the Chicago Mafia as an example for the book. He studied and applied the revolution of Lucifer against God and his interaction with Adam and Eve to our political process. The forward of his book is dedicated to Lucifer. That means, the forward in the book is dedicated for a mention of Lucifer. That's where he chose to comment on the devil and so the forward of his book is dedicated to Lucifer regardless of the Alinsky spin that liberals have tried to concoct calling it "fact checking." Go to the forward and this is what you will see. Alinsky has dedicated the forward of his book to …" the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer.- SAUL ALINSKY Although, he is correct in saying that masses of people organized according to their own beliefs, and inflaming the covetousness of others against your determined target can lead to an overthrow of a government. We saw that in the Arab Spring when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (both teachers of the Alinsky rules for radicals in their political careers and in American universities) taught the Palestinians and radical Muslims the Alinsky method and overthrew the leader of Egypt. They tried also to overthrow Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel by using these tactics during an election year in Israel. The problem with Alinsky Rules for Radicals being used by both sides is that neither side ever wins. Let's look at the case study, Lucifer. Yes, Lucifer won his own kingdom, but what kind of kingdom is it. It's a kingdom of everlasting death, deceit, abuse and torture. That is what the Alinsky Democrats are trying to create in America using these rules as the foundation of their revolution to overthrow the loyal and law abiding citizens of America. JOIN US ON NOV. 6TH 2018 AS WE MARCH TO THE VOTING BOOTH AND USE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE NO DEMOCRATS NOV. 6TH 2018. END THE ALINSKY REVOLUTION. BRING UNITY BACK TO AMERICA. THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE A GREAT PEOPLE WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER.
I disagree He DID learn from mafia members...iv'e heard this from several bio s from different sources....alinsky was a loser....his ideas were for evil people and though he never amounted to anything if he were annointed of LUCIFER he would have been wealthy and famous like many men of power and prestige....not a obscure looser he was.....
Many of these rules are easy to spot when used in relation to Donald Trump. Especially Stark to the keen observer is rule number 13: they have gone after Trump personally as opposed to attacking an organization or company.
Yeah this would make sense. His rules are quite brilliant in many ways. They aren't about having a civil logical debate, but are about winning by making your opponent constantly defend themselves. I see these rules used constantly by the mainstream media to attack those they don't agree with.
Terry Schlabach and Frank Nitti of Al Capone mafia and Joseph Goebbels of Nazi Germany. Goebbels was a propagandist that helped Hitler’s rise to power. Look at both their quotes on how to tell big and repeated lies.
Well the rules can be used for bad or good, I think that our US PRESIDENT users it or understanding the past workings used for good of USA .Trump 2920.
"But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” - Some day laboring carpenter guy told me this, he's kind of a hippy drifter dude... But he seemed nice enough. Really into this ''Way of Love'' side gig he had going on... a bit of a radical. I hope he stays out of trouble with the law.
Playboy had the definitive article interview with Saul in the early seventies. What newer students are not appreciating is that this man came of age in the dirty thirties, when Union organizers were MURDERED with impunity, and the concept of capital C Communism wasn't that farfetched, as "the road to wegan pier" and other essays explained. I took to heart his definitive rule: "NEVER REPEAT YOUR STRATEGY" which is missing in these "rules". DO NOT JUDGE by todays' standards. But live by these rules if the people on the other end plan to do you harm or blame YOU for what THEY are really doing.
These rules are designed not as a means of creating peaceful negotiations or allowing people to see eye to eye. Their sole use and purpose is to disrupt and fight. This is why these rules aren't very productive and it is sad they are used so frequently by those within the media or politics to prevent discussion and resolve issues.
Edit: I think the third paragraph expresses slightly better whatever I was going for in the mess that is the first two. Leaving the rest cause I've already spent way too long on this and if I don't stop myself now while I can I'll probably regret it lol. I think an example of the application of a modified Rule 7 would be people like Dylan Mulvaney and Greta Thunberg. They are not using the rule themselves, but rather consider them expendable charges that have been moulded to autonomously and continuously perform a set of desired actions by a thorough program of careful conditioning so that no further guidance is required following their public debut. So how is this Rule 7? Well it's more that it dodges it. The true activist is the one who did the preparation and promotion and faces no risk of 'becoming a drag' as they do not openly reveal themselves. On the other hand, the public person, though they may labour under the illusion that they're a valued activist member of the group, is expendable and should ideally continue to stubbornly stick to their script until they 'become a drag', are crushed into irrelevance, age out of usefulness, or even, rarely, destroyed completely by a lucky encounter that elevates their status to martyr and awards them a second round of public awareness. The activist benefits in several ways. First, expendability greatly simplifies the training because there is no need to teach the subject to think or adapt their behaviour to suit different situations, but simply to always be performing the behaviour (like the Energizer Bunny), nor is there any need to program a stopping point. Second, because the subject continues to act, even as they fade into obscurity, the activist is able to extract every bit of utility possible from their project. Third, by allowing the subject to expend their entire self they can be very easily discarded by the activist with no additional effort required. Fourth, this strategy requires of the subject very little intelligence, no curiosity, and no cognitive skills beyond those needed to navigate the world (and in fact probably benefits from the absence of these) so that the candidate pool from which the activist may select new subjects is virtually endless. As the subject is discarded once expended there is nothing to be gained by providing for future reprogramming or deprogramming in the conditioning nor is it beneficial to foster any sense of self-interest or self-preservation which should reduce the complexity of designing a program which can then be ingrained as deeply as possible. Now that I wrote way more than I meant to, I'm less sure of the connection to rule 7 that I envisioned. Perhaps it's the perfect execution of rule 7 by an activist in that they remove all risk to their relevance by projecting their tactic through a third party who behaves like an activist, but being obviously unaware of rule 7, and whose relevance is irrelevant, is in reality a lit flare that in their tireless execution of the activist's tactic carries on burning until it's extinguished, and which is tossed away by the one who lit it lest they get burned. If you actually read all this then thanks.
As long as the general adult american population believes in the AUTHORITY of all those holding political office, the AUTHORITY of those enforcing american "law" and those in control over the economy~NOTHING of lasting, fundamental value will ever happen.
The firearms ban situation is stemmed from many of these points. And especially the opening statement ,if facts are not on your side... Well, they have convinced people the opposite of the truth when it comes to guns . Every year , between 500,000 and 1,000,000 lives are saved from the use of privately owned firearms to stop an active, in progress life threatening violent crime. In co contrast there are roughly 110,000 murders a year from all situations. Hands ,knives ,bats, guns, hammers, ect. Of that number roughly 25,000 are committed with firearms. Of that number , roughly 2200 are with the guns the anti gunners push to ban first. The so called "assault weapons". They are the least used types of firearm in violent crimes. This is Information from a study ran by the Obama administration, who is staunchly antigun. So when it shows the low end of saved life vs murder with guns .as 20 lives saved -1 murdered , and upper end 40 lives saved - 1 murdered. Per year , it isn't being biased for pro gun use. That Info is from people who want guns banned. And is available for free ont he CDC website under studies of violent crimes and police reports. Not even Facebook can deny it with their fact checking. I know Hillary Clinton was Saul's last understudy too. And Obama studied his works In college . Joe was Obama's vice president . It's the same administration . Verify yourselves , a gun ban will kill the population of a medium city every year . Criminals don't follow laws...they aren't turning guns in for a ban...it doesn't hurt them .
Well, you obviously internalized one part of this book, because clearly facts aren't high on your list if priorities. I'm very pro-2A, but basically everything you just said is wrong, kid. 😂
Okay but you are incorrect about the entire point. This has nothing to do with winning an argument. It's all about avoiding arguments and attacking person instead of the idea.
Yes, but this is how the left wins arguments. Step 1 call the person racist and step 2 have that person defend themselves rather than their original argument and step 3 declare victory. You are correct the argument isn't really won but that isn't really the point.
No, I really wanted to actually. The problem I faced was if you use videos from other people TH-cam flags your video and bans it. It happened to several of my videos. I even used free domain video and it was flagged. So I gave up on using mainstream video.
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If you understand narcissism you can easily defeat the Rules for Radicals message. When dealing with a narcissist you don't give a positive or negative reaction(it's called the Grey Rock Method), and you either limit contact or go no contact(no contact is best). The narcissist's goal is to control you the same way Rules for Radicals teaches people to be narcissistic to control people.
Accuse your enemy of your own crimes I order to cause confusion . - Saul Alinsky
Sounds exactly like the Quid Pro Quo thing they did to Trump. The kids in cages thing too.
@@yuckal captures the last 8 years .
#4 “send 30,000 letters so they can never reply to all of them” they tried this on Trump now for the Mueller report, he proceeded to give them 1.5 million documents lol
LOL Trump can be pretty awesome.
I had some guy try and play victim in line at the grocery store, he never asked to get in front of me, as I would have let him, instead he started audibly complaining about how self centered I was for being ahead of him. My hair is thinning, so I shave it... This moron must have thought I was something I'm not. Anyway, he kept complaining, and I said firmly, "and you are going to shoot there and whine about it", and just openly laughed at him. He kept trying to get sympathy from the manager, who must have felt like a kindergarten teacher. I don't think these Jesse smollet types should be tolerated for a minute.
LOL I'm a bit old school. When I was young, claiming to be a victim would be considered embarrassing and would often lead to more abuse directed toward you. People really need to toughen up and stop being whiny babies.
@@SociallyTriggered now I have to study counter techniques to rules for radicals, as a back hand slap would have made me seem cruel to the people who go to my grocery store, but probably been too much for snowflake pants.
@@chrisbova9686 the counter techniques is embodied in one man, DONALD J. TRUMP. The rule is basic,
1. Never apologize, never back down.
2. Always speak in the most basic of terms, and repeat the words often.
3. Attack their character as well.
4. Point out an area in which they are bad (not necessarily what you are arguing on), for example the guy trying to jump queue, point to his shoes and say it's made from China by child labour, and use to impune that he's a bad person. .. (they hate character assassination ) before trump Republicans try to argue facts. Trump has no time.He stays on border wall, jobs, and every bad idea by the left, regardless of topics, trump comes back to those issues
Yes. You can use these points to argue endlessly with others. He didn't use the Chicago Mafia as an example for the book. He studied and applied the revolution of Lucifer against God and his interaction with Adam and Eve to our political process. The forward of his book is dedicated to Lucifer. That means, the forward in the book is dedicated for a mention of Lucifer. That's where he chose to comment on the devil and so the forward of his book is dedicated to Lucifer regardless of the Alinsky spin that liberals have tried to concoct calling it "fact checking." Go to the forward and this is what you will see. Alinsky has dedicated the forward of his book to …" the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer.- SAUL ALINSKY Although, he is correct in saying that masses of people organized according to their own beliefs, and inflaming the covetousness of others against your determined target can lead to an overthrow of a government. We saw that in the Arab Spring when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (both teachers of the Alinsky rules for radicals in their political careers and in American universities) taught the Palestinians and radical Muslims the Alinsky method and overthrew the leader of Egypt. They tried also to overthrow Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel by using these tactics during an election year in Israel. The problem with Alinsky Rules for Radicals being used by both sides is that neither side ever wins. Let's look at the case study, Lucifer. Yes, Lucifer won his own kingdom, but what kind of kingdom is it. It's a kingdom of everlasting death, deceit, abuse and torture. That is what the Alinsky Democrats are trying to create in America using these rules as the foundation of their revolution to overthrow the loyal and law abiding citizens of America. JOIN US ON NOV. 6TH 2018 AS WE MARCH TO THE VOTING BOOTH AND USE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE NO DEMOCRATS NOV. 6TH 2018. END THE ALINSKY REVOLUTION. BRING UNITY BACK TO AMERICA. THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BECAUSE WE ARE A GREAT PEOPLE WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER.
Trucker Dave's Road To Glory he also was known as the American version of Joseph Goebbels. Look who Goebbels was.
I disagree He DID learn from mafia members...iv'e heard this from several bio s from different sources....alinsky was a loser....his ideas were for evil people and though he never amounted to anything if he were annointed of LUCIFER he would have been wealthy and famous like many men of power and prestige....not a obscure looser he was.....
Very good analyst on this evil man.
November 3, unless their Covid fear is still in control, of the powers that be
Many of these rules are easy to spot when used in relation to Donald Trump. Especially Stark to the keen observer is rule number 13: they have gone after Trump personally as opposed to attacking an organization or company.
alinsky analyzed how chicago mafia worked and developed these rules
Yeah this would make sense. His rules are quite brilliant in many ways. They aren't about having a civil logical debate, but are about winning by making your opponent constantly defend themselves. I see these rules used constantly by the mainstream media to attack those they don't agree with.
Better: watch how the Democratic Parth works.
SociallyTriggered me and my husband to a tee good thing we love each other.
This guy's Mentor was surely the devil
Terry Schlabach and Frank Nitti of Al Capone mafia and Joseph Goebbels of Nazi Germany. Goebbels was a propagandist that helped Hitler’s rise to power. Look at both their quotes on how to tell big and repeated lies.
Well the rules can be used for bad or good, I think that our US PRESIDENT users it or understanding the past workings used for good of USA .Trump 2920.
"But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
- Some day laboring carpenter guy told me this, he's kind of a hippy drifter dude... But he seemed nice enough. Really into this ''Way of Love'' side gig he had going on... a bit of a radical. I hope he stays out of trouble with the law.
#4 is so powerful. They consume you with your own laws and rules. 5 I use myself. Mockery is our best tool
Playboy had the definitive article interview with Saul in the early seventies. What newer students are not appreciating is that this man came of age in the dirty thirties, when Union organizers were MURDERED with impunity, and the concept of capital C Communism wasn't that farfetched, as "the road to wegan pier" and other essays explained. I took to heart his definitive rule: "NEVER REPEAT YOUR STRATEGY" which is missing in these "rules". DO NOT JUDGE by todays' standards. But live by these rules if the people on the other end plan to do you harm or blame YOU for what THEY are really doing.
These rules are designed not as a means of creating peaceful negotiations or allowing people to see eye to eye. Their sole use and purpose is to disrupt and fight. This is why these rules aren't very productive and it is sad they are used so frequently by those within the media or politics to prevent discussion and resolve issues.
Number 13 President Trump is dealing with this now.
Edit: I think the third paragraph expresses slightly better whatever I was going for in the mess that is the first two. Leaving the rest cause I've already spent way too long on this and if I don't stop myself now while I can I'll probably regret it lol.
I think an example of the application of a modified Rule 7 would be people like Dylan Mulvaney and Greta Thunberg. They are not using the rule themselves, but rather consider them expendable charges that have been moulded to autonomously and continuously perform a set of desired actions by a thorough program of careful conditioning so that no further guidance is required following their public debut. So how is this Rule 7? Well it's more that it dodges it. The true activist is the one who did the preparation and promotion and faces no risk of 'becoming a drag' as they do not openly reveal themselves. On the other hand, the public person, though they may labour under the illusion that they're a valued activist member of the group, is expendable and should ideally continue to stubbornly stick to their script until they 'become a drag', are crushed into irrelevance, age out of usefulness, or even, rarely, destroyed completely by a lucky encounter that elevates their status to martyr and awards them a second round of public awareness.
The activist benefits in several ways. First, expendability greatly simplifies the training because there is no need to teach the subject to think or adapt their behaviour to suit different situations, but simply to always be performing the behaviour (like the Energizer Bunny), nor is there any need to program a stopping point. Second, because the subject continues to act, even as they fade into obscurity, the activist is able to extract every bit of utility possible from their project. Third, by allowing the subject to expend their entire self they can be very easily discarded by the activist with no additional effort required. Fourth, this strategy requires of the subject very little intelligence, no curiosity, and no cognitive skills beyond those needed to navigate the world (and in fact probably benefits from the absence of these) so that the candidate pool from which the activist may select new subjects is virtually endless. As the subject is discarded once expended there is nothing to be gained by providing for future reprogramming or deprogramming in the conditioning nor is it beneficial to foster any sense of self-interest or self-preservation which should reduce the complexity of designing a program which can then be ingrained as deeply as possible.
Now that I wrote way more than I meant to, I'm less sure of the connection to rule 7 that I envisioned. Perhaps it's the perfect execution of rule 7 by an activist in that they remove all risk to their relevance by projecting their tactic through a third party who behaves like an activist, but being obviously unaware of rule 7, and whose relevance is irrelevant, is in reality a lit flare that in their tireless execution of the activist's tactic carries on burning until it's extinguished, and which is tossed away by the one who lit it lest they get burned.
If you actually read all this then thanks.
Hung on every word 😊thx you ❣️
He looks like Tom Yanks
As long as the general adult american population believes in the AUTHORITY of all those holding political office, the AUTHORITY of those enforcing american "law" and those in control over the economy~NOTHING of lasting, fundamental value will ever happen.
Handbook for destruction. Notice that he presents no solutions.... only anarchy and confusion.
Well learned with Al Capone
Yup and he's just as dead as every one else becomes so what purpose did he serve other than to make living difficult for some others.
The firearms ban situation is stemmed from many of these points. And especially the opening statement ,if facts are not on your side... Well, they have convinced people the opposite of the truth when it comes to guns .
Every year , between 500,000 and 1,000,000 lives are saved from the use of privately owned firearms to stop an active, in progress life threatening violent crime.
In co contrast there are roughly 110,000 murders a year from all situations. Hands ,knives ,bats, guns, hammers, ect.
Of that number roughly 25,000 are committed with firearms.
Of that number , roughly 2200 are with the guns the anti gunners push to ban first. The so called "assault weapons".
They are the least used types of firearm in violent crimes.
This is Information from a study ran by the Obama administration, who is staunchly antigun.
So when it shows the low end of saved life vs murder with guns .as 20 lives saved -1 murdered , and upper end 40 lives saved - 1 murdered. Per year , it isn't being biased for pro gun use. That Info is from people who want guns banned. And is available for free ont he CDC website under studies of violent crimes and police reports.
Not even Facebook can deny it with their fact checking.
I know Hillary Clinton was Saul's last understudy too. And Obama studied his works In college .
Joe was Obama's vice president .
It's the same administration .
Verify yourselves , a gun ban will kill the population of a medium city every year . Criminals don't follow laws...they aren't turning guns in for a ban...it doesn't hurt them .
Well, you obviously internalized one part of this book, because clearly facts aren't high on your list if priorities.
I'm very pro-2A, but basically everything you just said is wrong, kid. 😂
Sounds like what bosses put their workers through in the corporation
Machiavelli would agree with all of this
Islam uses these tactics
Okay but you are incorrect about the entire point.
This has nothing to do with winning an argument.
It's all about avoiding arguments and attacking person instead of the idea.
Yes, but this is how the left wins arguments. Step 1 call the person racist and step 2 have that person defend themselves rather than their original argument and step 3 declare victory.
You are correct the argument isn't really won but that isn't really the point.
@@SociallyTriggered Fair enough.
Depends on your definition of "Win" I suppose. Lol
@@SociallyTriggered In a nutshell.
This is what the Left does when they CAN'T win an argument.
Lol
@@divineinsider0068 Basically yes.
NGL, here in Brazil, President Bolsonaro, a rigth-wing candidate, followed these rules to the T. Thats how he got elected
It helped that Bolsonaro has the support if the U.S. Imperialist machine at his back.
Go after people not institutions
13 is Trump. But you can't hurt Trump. Uh oh!!!!!
That whiny, shivering little b*tch does nothing but cry about how he's the victim of imaginary oppression. 😂
It would help if you could actually pronounce his name correctly.
How to think like a psycopathic narcissist by saul alinsky.
lol very true...it explains so much of the behavior on the left and in the media.
You’ve never made the subsequent video, with real life examples, have you?
No, I really wanted to actually. The problem I faced was if you use videos from other people TH-cam flags your video and bans it. It happened to several of my videos. I even used free domain video and it was flagged. So I gave up on using mainstream video.
You talk too much!!! Get to the book!
Ha ha. Look who just learned how to putt