China's Skyscraper Boom is Officially Over
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- China’s ban on skyscrapers just got even stricter.
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The way you connect architecture, geopolitics and economics is really (very) compelling. It's awesome!
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Going by the Title, China should be over too after what they have done to the world after March 2020
The channel has gotten better and better hey.
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China is communist state in normal county you can build what you want
B1M in 2030: Why does Shanghai have 1000 buildings at 249 meters?
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This may be a move in the right direction because developers, engineers, and architects will focus more on quality and usability the more. I always like B1M videos even before watching them because I know I won't be disappointed.
I worked in Zhangzhou which has a pop of around 7 mil in 2018, they didn't have any skyscrapers that i could see. I taught in a trade college, unfortunately the quality of the work was very bad, every where we went we would see blocks of rubble which we think were buildings that had been pulled down. The college we taught @ was only 7yrs old, but it already had cracks in wall etc. My business partner & i had a theory, they build it, do NO maintenance & pull it down in about 20 years !
@Dave TV Yup. The same reason why after 9/11, it was decided for the WTC site/Ground Zero they weren't going to build 2.000 ft (+600 meter) tall towers there as well. Which they could have, but financially would have been very irresponsible. That included a changing market, as well as firms being weary at the time after the attacks to be in high-rise buildings. All that has changed now, as you can see with Hudson Yards and Midtown Manhattan rise. Even lower Manhattan. But it also changes with different needs. Such as a need for space and greenery.
@@dvchel I'm pretty sure a building of almost any height in NYC would be feasible, it's the most valuable space on earth.
@@briansmale5457 Made in china quality
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Traditional Chinese architecture is so beautiful. It’d be cool to see more of it all over China. Affordable housing, traditional Chinese architecture, low-rise buildings & reforestation sound like the way to go for China the beautiful & mighty.
IKR traditional Chinese architecture is super-beautiful
Yes China is supreme and will destroy America
@@good-tn9sr okay there’s no need for that lol. We just do our own thing.
@@Clarity520 it’s a comment mocking the guy praising a first world poser country 😂
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I think the natural next step will be to implement rules about green spaces. The US had a similar problem 100 years ago where skyscrapers would make the cities dark and without sunlight and they put laws in place to try and avoid it.
True, as long as they don't go full suburbia like the US did.
@@luca_fiorini They won't. Building villa or single house is also banned in China.
@@luca_fiorini China has way less luxury of land than the US do. With the population it’s impossible for them to fit in subservient without eating into farm land, which also is needed a lot to feed the people.
Right, China already depends on imports for food because so much of its land is already polluted by industry and urban development. It's arguably why China isn't being even more aggressive against its neighbors, because a downturn of free trade caused by a shooting conflict would cause food prices to skyrocket and quality to collapse -- no amount of Party patriotism will overcome the feelings of an empty stomach especially after decades of prosperity.
@Leo US mass shootings, school mass shootings, republicans vs dems hating each other, karens vs karens, border crisis, druggie zombies, tent cities.. US the best country of freedumb!
Welp... you gotta admit they had a pretty good run
Most of the sales were empty investment purchases. They are paying the price now.
Yeah, booms are so interesting to follow since they tend to make interesting stuff. As other put it tho, I kinda fear for the maintenance cause lots of them are more or less investment in the shape of apartments be it finished or unfortunately otherwise.
@@rext8949 go find out how much money hsbc Goldman sache soft bank and many others invest in China bro… At least do some research pls .
@@rext8949 well their population was huge and they were the main manufacturers for computers and phones and whatever made in china products and started selling world wide.Not only that but also keep a huge competition with other companies in order to be number one i guess but im very sure that would barely happen.
As a skyscraper fan its a little upsetting but seems to be for the best. Similar to what's happening Dubai, it's good that they are thinking more about quality, its people, and the environment over quantity and vanity. Curious how these changes levels the playing field with the US in the future.
the video was very positive on the matter but personally i don't see them getting level with the US in the sense that i feel safe about Biden and am willing to invest in American stocks.
It's better for the government to lower the boom now than to wait for the market to burst the bubble...
The U.S doesn't have a skyscraper issue, they have the opposite, but also a problem in itself.
Urban sprawl, particularly the single-family housing (SFH).
@@Commievn Lmao china and US are always the opposite of one another, like china has way too many unused houses while US doesn't build enough to accommodate the homeless.
Too much glass in skyscrapers & solar panels contributes to *HEATWAVES* and that has been proven.
Xi'an is the best example for an amazing city that isn't packed with skyscrapers. Sure there are some in the Industrial Development Zone but the city center really succeeded in conserving its historical architecture. As a european, I always highly appreciated that since I still get dizzy and intimidated when I'm surrounded by tall buildings
I think Guangzhou is also a good example, balanced not too much.
@@theq1621 Bro Guangzhou is packed with skyscrapers
i am dutch european and i agree. i love my old city zutphen because of its old maintained architecture.
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I too get dizzy and intimidated by tall buildings- nasty creatures them .
Skyscraper in China might be no more but B1M quality is going though the roof.
Skyscrapers in a city are mostly concentrated in one area, the downtown aka business district, China probably wants the flow not to stagnate in one location of the city and probably spread out. Anyways, as always nice episode mate.
Chinese cities don't have a downtown they mostly exist only of skysrapers, nothing else.
@@vomm are you telling me that the bund in shanghai is not a downtown? That the central park in Guangzhou Is not a downtown aside with the bank? Beijing square?
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Finally a video about China that’s not overwhelmingly political. I like this focus on quality rather than quantity initiated by the government.
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I don't think people realize how tall 150m still is, even if it isn't gonna get you in the record books - 150m is about 45 stories. That is not a short building. This isn't as dramatic of a ban in absolute terms as it sounds like at first, it's only dramatic relative to China's previous building habits. A truly radical shift would be to adopt the height limit of Washington DC, where nothing can be over 130 ft, or about 11 stories.
yeah i would say that most buildings arent really affected by this but this will help to prevent financially unsustainable buildings that are just gonna cost their government money.
I feel lucky to have mostly lived in places where 45 floors is indeed fairly short
why does the washington dc limit exist?
all the China's tallest are not filled to even 70% at all, which means they are just vanity project, made to impress, not for practical use
Excellent, B1M! You cover more ground in under 8 minutes than conventional news covers in a month; and some, even years! I'd say, Happy New Year, but too many bunglers hold the reigns these days.
Sorry you’re calling China bunnglers
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Conventional news is only interested in peddling anti-China propaganda.
Megatall buildings are nice to look at, however the novelty of them often wear off within few weeks.
It's a good thing to tell other people, "hey my country has several megatall buildings", but deep down inside we know they are just underutilized and overpriced office spaces.
Right. It's just an ego trip.
China only has one megatall building. No country has more than 1. And yes, this is semantics.
Megatalls have always been stupid vanity projects, proven by the fact that they are economically unviable without the financial backing of the state itself.
Supertalls occasionally make sense, but China has far exceeded the actual demand for such high rise space in it's building spree.
Some economist even believe that rising investment into
skyscrapers is an indicator of a incoming recession. The theory was first put forward in 1999, not to long after the global financial crisis helped its case, and many have retroactively argued it applies to the great depression as well. I'm sure the Chinese government is not unaware of this.
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A step towards right direction. This will open up doors to quality infrastructure and will help cities to develop and grow more sustainably. Even though i freaking love skyscrapers but this seems like a good decision.
I like skyscrapers but I think Paris has the right idea of limited clusters... New York acheives a good look from its narrow island shape but non island /non waterfront cities can achieve the same look with clusters of sky scrappers outside of which no high development is allowed..
This decision will also stop the value of the currently built beautiful skyscrapers from being cheapened through unnecessary competition.
@@pyellard3013 In conclusion, skyscrapers mainly solve the problem of space, when there's no room for more people in houses, building high is the solution, this is very common in Hong Kong
@@pyellard3013 NYC has a great system of "air rights" that keeps tall buildings from being close together and crowding each other
@@SuperSMT IDK.. Manhatten looks pretty crowded from across the river...
I wish the same policy can be implemented in our country Malaysia as well... In our capital city Kuala Lumpur, there are 4 skyscrapers over 400m, the KL118 is also expected 2nd tallest in the world when completed. it is absurd to have so many skyscrapers over 400m in a city of just 1.5 million people, and our country population is just 32mil.
Our government and politicians just want to build these tall buildings for the glamour and money undertable.
however our city infrastructure is pretty terrible, a lot of old buildings with bad maintenance, terrible city planning, and just recently we had one of the worst flood in the region, and many houses were flooded.
Here in Kolkata, there are a lot of old buildings with terrible maintenance but its rather a part of the heritage than looks. Most of it is in the Central portion of Kolkata. We only have one very tall skyscraper (The 42) and the rest are shorter but still over 150m...although only a few of them are over 150 m
I get what you're saying , but trust me Kuala Lumpurs infrastructure is better than probably most of the world 😂
@@ayushghosh1155 yeah don't demolish me 2 storey house that is 100 years old and falling in pieces
You may be in the minority. Many Malaysians seem to be inordinately proud of their skyscrapers without realising that they are just expensive eyesores built for vanity.
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Imagine if they started blending traditional Chinese architecture with modern designs to make low-rise buildings that are more inviting, more convenient and greener than the usual concrete jungle.
I'm an architect recently retired , China kept my office very busy and we designed, engineered and specified all our buildings to the US standard and Chinese codes which ever were more stringent. although I always questioned why they were building so many tall buildings I just assume they know what they were doing . There was also a time when I thought that they were building buildings just to keep the people employed. Anyway it was good while it lasted.
Could this have anything to do with the famously low occupancy rate of skyscrapers in China? (less than 50% on average is a figure I've heard, probably from the B1M). Basically the gov is saying "No! No more skyscrapers until you fill the ones you've already got."
It's either that ,or they've decided to clamp down on Big Elevator.
He did mention this in video
Probably.
They are empty in New York too. Most of them are used as real estate investments. Especially the residential skyscrapers.
And rightfully so too. They're expensive, so not everyone can rent a floor. And the ones that can afford them is more likely to build their own damn buildings.
Lol can you guys stop this BS, B1M fake claims about Shanghai's tallest building was debunked openly on internet.
BTW what's B1M, once Milton Friedman (an economist which US policy makers and media considered like a god and bought his speeches and theories like crazy) made fun of Pudong, Shanghai and called it something like Egyptian pyramids built for CPC Pheroahs and now Pudong is the richest and most developed city in China with over 1.5 million population.
The reason government has banned super tall skyscrapers is because after certain limit the hight increases inefficiency of the building and cost millions of dollars more in the long term, super tall skyscrapers are good for the eyes but bad for your wallet.
It never made any sense to me to build tall skyscrapers that have at least half the building up for lease permanently because they have too much space. It's a waste. I love cities and skyscrapers, but building just to flex is meaningless.
Developer's greed.
Yes it is mainly for flexing but also a way for speculative investment.
Exactly why many complained about the skyscrapers at the US, most of them are either half empty or completely empty, but they were made to show power and the complexity of the level of civilization that they are at.
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This is a problem more of urban planning than skyscrapers themselves.
China: I'm not building skyscrapers anymore
New York, Dubai, and Jeddah: *It's show time*
Have you ever looked into how Spain is doing lately? Years ago I heard they were in the middle of a massive recession, a bunch of developments left half done, even an entire Airport unused. It was shown during a Top Gear special. Are they, or even Greece recovering?
i always wondered what happened to spain after that top gear special, it seemed really bleak but i assumed the footage must have been cherry picked
Im from spain barcelona and i can assure you even now there are so many half finished projects near my house because of traffic they wanted to build a tunnel its been 7 years and the construction is still going on there are always three four people walking around the site and the amount of unfinished buildings in barcelona are scary
During the pandemic people suffered a lot the government didn’t have enough money to pay its people families were forced to go and look for free food in churches and other places , spain especially barcelona now depends a lot on Chinese investors they are everywhere they own everything from big to small businesses and the recession is a never ending thing for spain and with time its getting worse , unlike other European countries in spain they dont help much to families and young students they pay like 400 or 5 if both of parents are jobless and have kids so imagine how bad the country is doing
i m not sure, but i think greece is recovered.
it is a small country and got help from china.
@@truezyf wtf. Greece got a lot of help from eu and they got lucky with tourism
I hope that this increases the uniqueness of the Chinese cities .
Skyscrapers help make a city more memorable or presentable, skyscrapers are naturally the way to go to further build upon a cities infrastructure. Though they’d need to set some ground rules on greenhouse gases like the US did, which would be in a year or two id assume
Uniqueness is overrated.
I think this will happen as towns become more lived in and changes in their own way at a bottom up level. There are a lot of initiatives to rebuild smaller closer communities to be less car dependent and I think this will allow people to rely less on outsiders and growing relationships, communities, a separate way of life within etc. So I think a lot of towns have the potential to gain a lot of their own character. Of course, it won't be like the old days where regional cities in large countries would gain much more distinct customs, social norms, accents etc. due to the isolation, as we are more globally connected than we've ever been. And I think China's higher ups also want to steer a bit of the habits, behaviors, customs etc. of the people, not to deviate too much from what they consider traditional or normal (or desired).
@@lion6379 Not true. And its defintetly more not true when their cities are full of them and they all blend together. Developed countries already realized that building many skyscrapers is not useful or beatiful.
As a Chinese, I'm quite excited for the future!
There are already many beautiful and innovative Chinese mixed with modern architectural things floating around, and I hope the skyscraper ban will allow these cultural buildings to flourish even more!
Somewhere I like to see these buildings is on Archdaily, there are some really innovative designs on there, which I'd like to see more around China!
Hopefully, each region's special characteristics can be really brought out. I'd love to see a traditional mixed with modern Suzhou and Hangzhou, or smaller cities with regional characteristics.
If this means we can get more traditional Chinese architecture, that would be great
There is also a lot of incredible contemporary Chinese architecture all over the country. So many super talented Chinese architects infusing historical Chinese design ideologies and principals in new and refined ways.
Unfortunately the Chinese Cultural Revolution destroyed countless buildings and neighborhoods as Marxist tend to do. You can still see small pockets of traditional architecture and historical urban street life when you walk around some of the bigger cities.
@@RubmaLione probably just western copycat shit since every culture has lost its identity since the 20th century brought western cultural dominance. Iran, and arab countries can't even play their orchestras without 4-5 western instruments or paint the way they did in the past. And look what is happening to China's culture. What a shame. I have no faith in this.
@@user-ju6ix1wd8j The Western dominance of world cultrue will not last now its economic dominance is fading.. But, sure, we live in an increasing interconnected world in which "art" can be international.. But there is always divergence.. American cultrue was essentially European but evolved.. Modern African jazz is different to Western.. It will be a very longtime before there is one universal cultrue ( if ever).
That would definitely be a wonderful thing. If the Chinese government could encourage construction companies to start building more traditional style Chinese houses again but with modern day conveniences and architectural knowledge for improved quality and long-term resistance it would be so awesome. Japan could also really do the same thing as well frankly.
Not to mention that building high is not always a method of saving space! The higher you build the bigger the sprawl of space and the facilities needed to sustain these structures become. A mixture of Mid-rise and Highrise buildings like you find in many European and Japanese cities for example ensures the best use of space. That’s especially important in ever growing Chinese cities, so it’s a very wise decision to focus on density and living quality rather than tall extravagant buildings
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I think it's a good change, though I'm interested in the massive change to having more restrictions even above 100m. With so many empty buildings, it seems clear to not be a population issue to have tall buildings. I'm intrigued to see if cities will have more sprawl now or if new construction will slow to only necessary population demands.
Excellent video once again. I'll be watching this one a few times!
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Not sprawl as the govt put limits on sprawl to protect farm lands. In fact many small villages are starting to empty out and being demolished as the young migrates to the city. Construction will naturally slow as it will be much more difficult to get permit. This s to force better quality planning rather than just the speed. Speed however is still very important and that is why we still see too many newer sections of cities across China still looking the same. The new rule is to force better usability and more creative buildings rather than to put a stop on empty buildings. To lower vacancy, the gov is putting a stop on massive loans which is much more effective than limiting building permits. With this new rule we will expect to see more diversity and creative use of limited space rather than vanity projects which the central gov hate (but regional gov still love it). Central gov is trying purge the excess of capitalism and push regional gov to build facilities for better public use instead of luxury facility for the rich.
The tall buildings are more for China’s face, or what we call 面子, than actual practicality. It’s a symbol and something you’d immediately remember. Think of Burj Khalifa for example.
The problem more like too expensive rent price
By the way although it seem counterintuitive due to the land needed around a mega tall skyscraper, smaller buildings actually have higher densities. In London, areas with victorian townhouses have the highest density in the city. So this planning policy doesn't inhibit accomodation and reduces cost as the higher up you go the more cost has to go into structural integrity, it's a good policy increasing light and reducing downdraught effect, that will hopefully encourage better design of the building themselves rather than just tall being part of the price tag that is spent on appearance.
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The Chinese just went big on skyscrapers, but it's always the time when they had to stop, due to economic reasons.
Smaller buildings can be dense, but, it’s still not the same as, say, Hong Kong density.
@@NowhereAndEver china declining!
You'd be surprised how much open space chinese cities have comparing to european ones, because a row of victorian houses, that take up land space, are stacked together thus freeing up street level space.
I think each city should have a minimum standard to incorporate Chinese architecture details going forward. This will bring more style going forward and not just a concrete jungle
And worse if the concrete is poor structural quality !!
Toronto and Vancouver here in Canada REALLY need to take example from this!! So many buildings going up but there's little reason other than investments. Also here in toronto there's a lot of butt ugly apartments not in the downtown lol
@@DaDoubleDee Chinese investments too haha
@@DaDoubleDee Same thing should happen in the US and Western Europe too. Not going for modernist, glassy buildings, but homegrown architectural styles instead.
@@dvchel Dumbass we already have regulations in western europe and we do not have that many skyscrapers because they are heavily regulated. What you are talking about is already in place for decades... maybe google or go to western europe?
Nice. As a Chinese from a city with population of 21 Million, I am so tired of these stupid skyscrapers. This regulation came late but not too late.
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Thank you for this video, I have just subscribed. I live in Shenzhen and moved here May 2017. My Chinese colleagues have told me "If you want to see the China of yesterday, go to Beijing. If you want to see the China of today, go to Shanghai. If you want to see the China of tomorrow, go to Shenzhen" - this cannot be more true. The development here, even within the 4.5 years since I have been here is crazy (I saw the completion of the Ping An building). Its exterior design is fascinating from an engineering perspective, in terms of reduction of vortex shedding (cyclical drag forces) from wind loads. In the last year or so, however, I have noticed that more old apartment buildings are being replaced with more modern apartment buildings and there are parks everywhere. Foreign architects are called in to design new, sleek buildings that replace older (circa 80's, 90's) buildings.
Conspicuous consumption. A natural corollary when people come into a lot of money. They tend to mindlessly ape others without realising the pitfalls.
Actually foreign architects are in dwindling demand, due to the slew of out-here Chinese firms these days and homegrown prize-winners. Chinese architects are now the ones going global, such as MAD or the ones setting the trends like X+living or Wang Shu (do check these guys out if you want to know what the future trends are). This is due to the vast amount of people, all with high education standards, multiple times more engineers or designers than any other country graduating ever year, to the point there's a glut and a lot of downtrodden artists out there - the Shanghai region alone has something like 20,000 design schools. In China there is a certain form of self-racism lingering, whereby a foreign name still illicits a knee-jerk response that it's better quality. It doesn't matter that one pile of jeans in the factory gets the Levi's label slapped on it, and the other a local brand, the former will always be 'better'. Likewise with Apple phones a little behind in the tech or durability, they're still doubly expensive.
This is a really welcoming trend, skyscrapers are unsustainable and there are many cultural and historical sites whose vistas and environment should be protected, like the way in which London regulates the skyline to protect important landmarks from being blocked by new developments.
Skyscrapers are the same all around the world and have no character. Countries should focus more on their historical and unique architecture.
@@pangaea5258 exactly
Stockholm, Sweden did the same thing, limiting the height of buildings to protect the character of the city. One area where the limits aren’t so strict are the entrance roads into the central city. Stockholm is built on several islands and keeping the limits on new buildings has helped retain the “coziness” of the city and Old Town.
@@Theactualstoic Skyscrapers aren't built to house people efficiently. They are expensive vanity projects where extremely rich people reside or commercial premises.
London does no such thing, those laws were repealed decades ago and replaced with something that allows rampant development whenever a rich developer can persuade/buy the mayor. At one time it was illegal to build anything within a mile of St Paul's that was more than two thirds of its height, now from many angles it is hidden by buildings that are several times taller than the cathedral.
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Actually a good decision by the Chinese government
Like my teachers in architecture school always told me: 'build better and smarter, not bigger and bigger'
build prettier first! go back to historical styles and stop all the square boxes please they are depressing
@@Thatsme849 hahaha that's part of what they meant by better, but I coincide completely
I think many developed countries stopped caring about the "tallest building" race. Lol focusing on the quailty and usage of the buildings should be the priority instead of wanting _VANITY_ buildings with no real purpose. I can only imagine how many buildings are sitting half full/empty. Great video B1M! 👍
Many developed countries stopped caring because they were already developed. Most of the tallest buildings before asian countries rose in economy was 100% european or american. They don't need more skyscrapers nowadays because their economy is solid enough .
I actually support this. Especially the copy cat city ban.
Skyscrapers are a bit of a red herring when it comes to density, just look at European cities - no where near as many skyscrapers as American cities, and yet they have a higher standard of living, more density, and have an easier time implementing effective public transport. we need to fill the 'missing middle' when it comes to density- we need more townhouses instead of high rise apartments and single family zoning
Most of European countries are less populated as well . In China 🇨🇳 & India 🇮🇳 there are many small towns as populated as many European cities .
You can have both, look at NYC
European cities have more densitity but they are also concrete wastelands. The denser it is with its mid-rise districts the less open and green spaces it has. Good luck randomly stumbling upon decently sized park in Paris, Vienna or Barcelona.
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Europeans cities have housing crises, such as Amsterdam, Oslo, Helsinki, copenhagen.
I think this is a good step towards loger lasting and safer cities ... tho I question the limit on height .. perhaps due to strategic reasons since its hard to turn profit if there is constant booming supply on estate market
Those people have better roads than us in Canada. I am so jelly
A good approach concerning dense urban development is the one Tokyo takes. Tokyo hasn't got just one central business district where all skyscrapers are concentrated to. Instead, there is a cluster of areas where skyscrapers appear. Conveniently, these are also located next to train stations. Thus, a big number of people can commute easily without having to use cars. This concept is called Transit Oriented Development.
At the same time, Tokyo has got loose zoning rules. Thus, buildings can develop freely like the market demands. This is what Chinese cities should aim for.
Pretty sure China is doing the same. Most big cities have around 3 to 5 clusters of dense skyscrapers, and they are usually located at transit hubs where multiple metro lines intersect. I used to intern at a company in Shenzhen, and their building is literally built right on top of a metro station.
On a much smaller (but growing) scale this is the same route Miami is taking. Walk around Miami at night and it feel's like is 2050
If China attacks Taiwan and Japan defends the island there may be many implosion* from above to open skylines! (*Plural stupid google)
@@connorbaird5019 I think(and hope) most cities will more or less try to adopt this strategy in the near future. This definitely makes a lot more sense than cramming skyscrapers in the city center and having everybody commute to work from the suburb.
CBD next to train station will be a disaster in massive population country
It would be really cool if they made traditional chinese architecture the standard type. Like just imagine walking in the tianamen square but an entire city designed like that. It would be surreal and if I was chinese it would make me really proud of my country.
I’m sure they’re incredibly concerned with making you proud of them 😂😂
that would be sooooo sick actually
Tiananmen Square? The square in which nothing happened, right?
@@Someone-vn7lb At least 1 court yard for displaying the newest TANKS and war games.
@@papermelon I worded it wrong. Thanks for pointing out.
Yet another interesting and informative piece from B1M.
I didn't need to watch vid to know their building quality sucks. But thank you
Skyscrapers are overrated. They are much harder to evacuate and more vulnerable to disasters. Even in Japan, low rises are even more "disaster-proof" than skyscrapers. Skyscrapers can shape the skyline of the city, but banning them and giving permission to a few that fit in the overall architectural agenda of the city is a way better solution than trashing the city with random overpriced useless towers that will never be fully used.
Totally agree ! Having a few unique and high quality buildings is better than filling every single city with lots of random skyscrapers .
Biggest problem is they usually are extremely expensive to build, maintain and demolish. It looks intimidating, but other than city centres where multinational companies like to HQ, they are irrelevant to most companies and citizen. I remember a skyscraper in Saigon finished around 10 years ago still struggle to fill all of their floors. Similarly, tall apartments and condominiums sound lucrative, but they also need proper planning, because too many of them and their view will just look block each other like in Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore. Their main function as density housing is only viable if the city’s economy is large enough to pay for their maintenance. The way that housing is being solved in cities like LA or SF boggles the mind. They green lighted a lot of apartments, but apartments are expensive so the incentive for developers would be to build condominiums to make the most money out of it. The homeless need housing in areas where they can travel to work efficiently without having to own a vehicle. Developing a proper mass transport network to accommodate workers like in other dense urban areas is the only way to reach the root of the housing problems. Japanese mass transport looks intimidating, but considering the scale of the amount of people they move, it is what enables them to have poor workers living in cheaper housing area yet able to get to work. They still have a homeless population, but they are not becoming part of the city landscape. LA have a huge homeless population not just because they have great weather, but also because its economy is great, and a lot of homeless there do work in low paying, minimum jobs. They can’t afford a home close enough to their work, so they choose homelessness instead.
@@lc9245 Good points.
Nah, banning them is unnecessary.
You won't talk trash about skyscraper if it was affordable , the problem is price, not the building itself
I learn more from your channel than school.
Agreed
For real
Sad.
HaiKou 海口 - ‘kou’ is pronounced like ‘Co’ as in ‘No’ ☺️
A really interesting video, I live in Shenzhen currently. The city doesn’t have many high-rise buildings compared to Shanghai for example, and to be honest I think it’s better that way. Many residential buildings here are very high, but it’s a necessity because there’s so many people and a lack of space.
as a Chinese I just keep learning about my country through your channel. Good job!
I guess there are Indeed consequences to building countless sky scrapers at break neck speed...
US mass shootings, school mass shootings, republicans vs dems hating each other, karens vs karens, border crisis, druggie zombies, tent cities.. US the best country of freedumb!
All to book non existent profits and chalk up imaginary growth figures and GDP.
@@tiffanyrich6814 well ya china locks up everyone, china just needs gas chambers to become the next nazi with total submission to the Chinese Communist Party. you say anything wrong then your locked up yuoi must be from china if you wrote this, don't say anything bad to your leader there watching you
Paris: "No building higher than 37m".
China: "But why?"
Paris: "You'll understand some day"
China 2021: "Ok I get it... Now only maximum 250m"
Paris: "..."
Considering how much I dislike Paris, China going the same way would be a tragedy given some if the most beautiful cities are built there. Just imagine if say, Tokyo or Hong Kong went the same way decades ago? Sad
meanwhile directly nextdoor in Puteaux:
hippety hoppety this 244m skyscraper will now be build on my property
@@user-yj5yu4pc2f Well, almost no one is coming to visit China "beautiful" cities, or consider that they are great for quality of life, contrary to Paris and other "flat" European cities that chinese and international tourists like to visit so much, so probably your opinion is not the majority.
The nice places of Tokyo are not the skyscrappers areas. Have you been to Shinjuku? Boring life in the day, life at night is mostly in the old town "flat" area. Whereas Shibuya's lower area is more fun.
By the way in Kyoto skyscrappers are also forbidden.
In New York, life is not in the towers, life is at street level. Wall Street area is deserted at night.
Hong Kong is greater due to a more organic development, but life is also at street level. Badly planned Chinese or American cities have no soul except when there is an "old" town... So the fact that the Chinese government start to think differently about "urban planning" is a good sign.
I have been living in Paris for more than 10 years so I think I can comment on this: I like visiting Paris as a tourist, but it’s kinda become like a torture of living in the downtown. Lack of green spaces inside the downtown, small & old flat (bad living quality cuz they are old and expensive), crowed and dirty metro system, narrow streets etc. I would say if all those urbanization plans can be achieved in the following years, some Chinese cities would be way more better to live in than aging old European cities.
@@user-yj5yu4pc2f Why dislike Paris lmao? Their buildings look cooler than yours tbh
Such high quality content!
Huge respect to the team for delivering such an unbiased view to this topic without all the political agenda like any other channels when they mention the word “China”.
China sucks lol
@@AS-xj9cy whatever floats your boat lol.
@@Clarity520 AS ? ASS !
确实，简直外网清流了。
Back to New York I guess
Well there goes my elevator stocks.
US skyscrapers were necessity because of tight spaces. Than skyscrapers became status symbols. After it countries started to build sky scrapers as status symbols. Problem is, that they are not worth the money, unlike in New York. Best example is Dubai. Why do you need high buildings in the middle of nowhere in the desert? China is different, but they still build skyscrapers as a proove, that they are advanced, modern... In the meantime their buildings are crumbing and ground water is extremely contaminated...
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Thanks for the good content as always, as a person who has been in China, I really think this restriction is necessary, and more other restrictions are required too. maybe next you can do a video on China's "gated community". or just "gated community" in general. I really think it's a huge problem for cities.
"I really think it's a huge problem for cities."
Can you elaborate? What is the problem exactly?
@@razmatazz9310 What, you don't believe segregated communities is a problem?
@@razmatazz9310 from my observation:
1. Transportation= Road in the communities can't be used by the public.
2. Lifestyle= When you take a walk, usually one side of the sidewalk is always a busy road with loud noise and heavy light & gas pollution. (Because of 1)
3. Economy= cities are divided into blocks of economic zones and residential zones, so it's hard for local start-ups and small family businesses to get started. That leads to a bad regional economy and may lead to income inequality (more money goes to online stores and big brands).
4 Culture= With the reasons above, people go from point to point in a city only, the low vitality of the city and people's lack of incentive to explore the city may slow cultural accumulation.
There are also papers on this topic too I think.
@@mlc4495 Not for racial or cultural reasons tho. It's mainly security concerns and bad city planning.
@@whnsususus Interesting, never thought of it like that!
You have a lot of good points!
The main thing I can maybe see some Chinese people arguing is that gated communities make it safer, or that the gates make sure that the hubbub of transport and people doesn't make it into their homes.
I feel like it's kind of similar to how in the US, some people will choose to live in a more isolated place away from the city, while others will live right in the city.
Another terrific video. @The B1M have you considered doing a video about San Francisco’s Millennium Tower that’s leaning? Assuming of course you haven’t already done so and I just forgotten. Thanks! 🙏🏽 😊
If you haven't seen Practical Engineering, it's a terrific channel that I really love. Grady there did a wonderful episode on the Millennium Tower.
Could never understand why a country with such beautiful traditional architecture insisted instead on building these huge modern boxes. I get having a big flashy skyscraper as a showpiece downtown. Just shouldn't make up an entire city
Great video. Keep up the good work.
This is literally the best channel on TH-cam.
I don´t need a newspaper or any website. I just watch these Vids and have a pretty good understanding what the global construction problems/solutions are. Awesome and educative content!
Piranesi prison video?
This is a great start. Now let’s see some more cities follow this example as well!
7:45 this shot is crazy good.
As always incredibly impressive it's more than vids, eager for watching new uploads.
This is an interesting topic, I would like to know more about china's skyscrapers. Great video!
Yes...wow wow wow?!! So much amazing!! Fantastic video!! So wonderful. Wow. Just wow.
Yes
Yes
China seems to be going for less vertical infrastructure and more horizontal with high speed rail, the belt and road program, etc… which is a better use of funds than a half empty supertall building.
Yes, you should see some of the new "city within city" designs coming out of Shenzhen. It's really cool.
I totally agree, Hong Kong has hands down THE best transport system in all of China, which mainland cities could totally use their money to construct likewise
@@troy5094 travel more but ok
Interesting video, thanks for sharing it with us!!😎
The skyscrapers are an economic bubble about to bust and they want to slow it down.
Skyscrapers only make sense in a very specific context. You can see the disconnect from the cities and the problems they cause for quality of life. Also when you compare Paris and New York, Paris manages a higher population density and higher quality of life without skyscrapers (except in La Defense). So they are not the best tool for urbanisation.
Manhattan is a commercial/financial district mainly, not residential. Paris is mix of all three.
I never even considered that the buildings quality was sub standard. They look so beautiful. To be fair, I don't think that the major buildings are low quality. I think it's happening to prevent low quality skyscrapers from being built.
The engineering standards are actually much higher in China - a whole new level compared to the West that foreign architects have to get used to. This is due to being in earthquake zones, as well as biannual typhoons, and usually every city's been built on a river system that experiences 50 year megafloods. The issue has historically been the corner-cutting and semi-legal homes that went up in the 80s-90s boom, when people used sub-standard materials and there was little zoning laws.
@@zupermaus9276 and new buildings.. th-cam.com/video/GZvdveiI3zs/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/s-2DtL-Wjkc/w-d-xo.html
Another good content. Well done B1M. By the way, are you in London @fredmills?
We al have to admit. The thumbnail for this video is astounding. This is the highest detail thumbnail i ever saw.
When I visited China for the first time, I was very disillusioned with their urban design. Car-centric traffic infrastructure and loads of high-rise buildings made cities look incredibly grey and same-y. Hope this can change now!
Built building wouldn't demolish so what's your point Boomer?
You don't say the same about new York though 🙄
@@oluwadamilola6233is NY specifically relevant?
@@Drannn54 what's yours?
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 reread please
put it simply : better build a 40 storey building but every floor is sold out than 100 storeys supertall skyscraper but only 30 floors are usable.
True
There are some arguements why having sufficiently enough excess housing might be good: like for people that move from city to city to be able to find a home, keep housing prices affordable, encourage young people to move out and settle up their own households.
I hope they also place emphasis on the architectural form of the buildings themselves to make them fit in more with their historical surroundings and to better emulate traditional Chinese architecture. Though in some ways it's a shame that they didn't get to make a sort of neoclassical Chinese version of the clock tower at mecca which i consider to be one of the best looking super tall skyscrapers ever made since it effectively captures traditional Arabic architecture on a grand scale.
The demanding analysis is lacking here. Countryside plus Tier 4 and tier 5 cities are also going through rapid expansion, which give the economic capacity to bring people back and causes the lower demand of the high rise residential buildings in big central cities.
Doesn’t change the fact that occupancy in such high rise buildings is poor across the country
@@seankilburn7200 I don’t know where did you see the ‘poor occupancy rate’, In my home province Anhui, all cities and towns’ high rises are fully occupied. The demand is still fast growing along with the urbanization. Some so-called ‘ghost towns’ are quickly filled by relocations. I’ve no idea where you got those so wrong info
@@alicetruelovecrossdresser9670 it is a well known fact. It’s not surprising that you seek to defend China at every turn given your name. You’re hardly going to be objective and will simply rebuff whatever points I raise.
@@seankilburn7200 why should I defend it??? You’re hilarious… I’m just simply state a fact that what I saw and experienced in over past 30 years. Your brain is so overwhelmed by those misinformed stuff and doesn’t allow any different opinion… ok there’s no need for further meaningless discussion
@@alicetruelovecrossdresser9670 watch polymatters video on China’s housing problem
Still making good content, keep it up
@@agnez9711 firstly, why are you replying to a comment who's account is publicly shown that he's a minor
Secondly, why do you have a mix of English, Turkish, and Chinese on this 'post'
Thirdly, good job, since even though you broke TH-cam TOS, you probably wont get any action against you even if your reply is reported
Sorry to hear that
net usable area per floor in high rise buildings are very limited after the space used by many sets of lifts, utility facilities, staircase well. good that this rush of building tall buildings has been stopped for now.
Aren't like 80% of NYC newer skyscrapers empty? As you said in the first minute of your video, these buildings are mostly vanity projects. China is smart to invest it's resources on more important developments.
Most of the new ones were going up on billionaires row, but ones like 9 DeKalb Ave, will be fully occupied
Being prudent is always better than being wasteful. Making the buildings more functional and better utilized is the right choice.
It’s been awhile since the last time I watched a video from this channel!.!.
Just take an example
Many developed European countries refrain from too tall skyscrapers rather than that they have preserved their own cultural buildings and hertiage architecture.
Whereas USA just seems to be boring and monotonous.
I would disagree, new york is one of the skyscraper capitals of the world, yet is one of the most unique and interesting cities not only in the USA but in the world, but in many cases you are correct
@@jarheadmstr Not true that is only your opinion on New York. Most people know new york as a shithole due to the high cost of living and how dirty the city is.
@@froglifes6829 ya it is my opinion? What’s your point, I sad I disagree, I didn’t say he was wrong, and also if New York is such a shithole, and people have such a bad perception of New York why is it one of the most visited cities in the world? Bothe domestic and foreign
@@froglifes6829 and the same could be said about Paris, which is one of the dirtiest cities in Europe, but also unbelievably beautiful
China basically has the opposite problem of the US, but in both cases the solution is the same: gentle density
It’s great news that they are finally focusing on quality or safety over quantity now.
Best content on TH-cam can't change my mind. 😤
250 meters is still damn high, it is like 80 floors or so
Been living in Shenzhen for 7 years and I am a fan of skylines so the news didn't come in my favor. But you gotta face the fact that a lot of the office spaces in these skyscrapers just aren't being used, which then is a waste of money and resources. And also there are safety, population density, financial issues to be concerned...so this is a good ban.
Let's take it to the next level .... Space Scrapers
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I'm a Chinese from Shanghai.
Love your videos forever!
What is the beat called in the background at 3:15?
I don’t know if I just missed this in the video but this will also have a hugely positive environmental effect!
No u didn't he failed to really address the effects this will have on the environment
@@tmd-w1552 that’s too bad because I’m sure it’s a major motivator in china’s renewed effort to reduce carbon emissions and reducing the use of concrete and steel reinforcement needed for skyscrapers is a major part of that
•Office vacancy ratio in big cities in Japan: Almost always less than 5%
•Office vacancy ratio in big cities in China: More than 20%
•Vacant Condo in China: The population of Germany.
@@argus-r1j 地方财政已经死了。中共到不留下任何痕迹为止反复隐藏。但是，中国是暴力共产主义，请您放心。中国不是民主主義，不会崩塌。因此中国最终会成为依赖德政令的国家。依我的估计，比起中国，韩国先经济再破产＆俄罗斯先再崩塌。如果俄罗斯崩塌，对中国有多大影响？将这块遗失多年的领土取回。
My favorite Texas feature Is the 75mph 2lane road that immediately goes down to 25mph with no warning right before a small town
Could you do a video on the "One Thames City"? I haven't found much information on it.
Love this, I'm in support of this new move by China.