I’ve never understood how Grealish gets such an easy ride in the media.He’s the best I’ve ever seen at celebrating trophies he had nothing to do with winning.
@@T.E.S.S. yeah Terry is the exact same as Grealish, Terry sucks so much how on Earth does Chelsea have the EPL goals conceded record with him in it???
Bit rude to ignore the detail of Hart's absolute renaissance at celtic. If pep ruined him, Ange fixed him. He was wonderful for those seasons under Postecoglu.
Not sure you can call playing for Celtic a renaissance. The team is a big fish in a small pond, so would've received much less shots than the other clubs he played for since Man City. Its also a league that doesnt bother with Goalkeeper distribution, further proving peps reason to bin him
@@jackbrownio3 huh nah man, even considering the difference in quality, he played really well there and learnt to love the game again - which is the most important thing. Very well respected and thanked by celtic fans for helping them turn around the rough place they were in before ange signed and signed him.
@ fair play to him enjoying himself and performing well at that level, but would still argue that he wouldnt have made the bench at any top 5 league side
😂😂😂😂😂 Thats Celtic lil bro... He could have gone Leyton Orient and done the same thing ffs. He was facing shots on goal from the likes of Liam Boyce and Tony Watt... like chill out. 😂😂
I'm biased but to me it could be the best transfer of all time. Getting Eto'o and then becoming the only ever Italian club to win the treble just feels so good 😂
@@milaninter2442 I have to say I'm surprised how undervalued etoo was, I get that impression because it feels like Barca didn't care about getting rid of him but I might be wrong , I have to say tho that whole saga was like a fairytale redemption for him so I'm glad it worked out
I think you're forgetting Henry was 30 when Pep became manager and played shit in his final season at Arsenal so I wouldn't say Pep ruined him but he was declining anyway.
Henry in 08/09 had a excellent season 19 league goals 6 in champions league whilst playing narrow of a front 3 catered to Messi, he himself admits that that season pep made him see football in a new light opened up a new part of his football brain to understand the game in a different way, had his best season in terms of trophy’s hardly call that ruined
Cole Palmer is a good example. People say "City should never have let him go" but he would never have been allowed to play the same way with as much freedom as he does at Chelsea, if he stayed at Man City. He would have been a bit part player at best. Pep's football relies on system players and there have been many talented footballers who have fallen foul of style of football. There are also many great players who he has fallen out with.
So because you instinctively understand that Pep knows what he’s doing you have a pathological need to pretend that he doesn’t as if you understand things better😂. pathetic. players can do whatever they want with the ball dummy. they just have to work hard on defense and build up play. You probably think he Scripts out every pass.
you can’t include someone as a player who pep ruined bc you think if he had a chance he would ruin him. the fact is that he didn’t so therefore he can’t be put on a list like this
@@rainbowsprankles6085 That's not true. Different systems and styles of football allow certain types of players to thrive and others to struggle. That's the point of having different formations. Jack Grealish is a great example. He is a different player than when he was at Aston Villa mainly because his role in the team was different and Villa played a completely different style of football to Man City with different expectations with and without the ball.
@@PogChampion45 That's a fair point but I still think my comment is true. If Pep thought Palmer had a place in his team then he'd have played him and definitely don't think he'd have hit anywhere near the numbers he has at Chelsea if he'd had played in City's team for the same amount of time. It was really between him and Foden and he went with Foden but I think Palmer is a much better footballer. Pep was happy to sell a prime Samuel Eto'o, so he isn't averse to moving on very talented footballers.
If Pep had ruined Cole Palmer it would mean he had a sensational time at Man City, then was sold and his career went down the drain. But it’s kind of the opposite. He was decent young prospect for Man City but was never going to get into a midfield with De Bruyne, Foden, Gundogan, Silva and Rodri in it, so he left to get more games and has come on leaps and bounds whilst still in his early twenties.
I remember when Xherdan Shaqiri at Bayern was on the brink of stealing Robbens place in the starting lineup, playing exciting football on the left wing, and more and more coming inside for a dribble and cross or shot. Soon as Pep came, he publicly questioned Shaqiris „tactical intelligence“ and ruined the confidence of a young rising baller kind of player. That image stuck on him forever. So happy that Palmer got away just in time… Also dont forget that because of pep, basically all old school hard man defenders and classic shot stopper keepers all of a sudden looked like farmers when mediocre managers forced them to play tiki taka in their own box, desperetaly trying to be seen as modern, ballplaying coaches.
how is Pep at fault for mediocre managers trying to play tiki taka? Did Pep tell them to adopt this style? So now Pep is to blame for his team failing and is also to blame for other teams failing? Idiotic comment
I’m sure it had an impact but I don’t think you can contribute Shaquiris entire lukewarm career to a short stint under Guardiola. He was decent at Stoke, underwhelming at Liverpool, and went to MLS early where he was also disappointing and ended his career fairly early. I actually saw him live for Chicago v Toronto and he was clearly the best player on the pitch, but didn’t accomplish much there.
PEP Only coach 1 Team in England .. Why don't they play their own style long balls .. Pep influence in England is that most teams now have technically better players who can now control the ball dead at feet and passing accurately instead of the 50/50 passing . Pep has not ruined Grelish the Guy was never a good shooter even at Villa look at his stats at Villa and his highlights. All happen he was given a free role at Villa to dribble all over the place .
I would've definitely included Bravo over Henry and Zlatan. The Chilean went from a very solid keeper, regular starter in la liga for a very good Barcelona side and on top of all that back to back copa america winner, to an absolute car crash of a player, who looked abysmal in his first season, and then was left to rot on the bench for three more seasons. Sure, he was fine for Betis, but if he hadn't gone to City, he could've probably still commanded a move be the first choice at another European giant, like PSG, Juve or Chelsea.
In terms of entertainment Grealieh was absolutely top notch at Villa and given the freedoms by Smith to show that flare. Man City are boring to watch even when winning. It almost felt like Southgate was trying to emulate the same thing with England
yeah, I never liked Man City, one reason is that they win everything, and the other is what you mentioned. I find them boring to watch even when they win. It's only fun when the other team on the field brings the entertainment and disrupts the City orderly manner of playing e.g. Liverpool (who I've always liked much more)
You're joking mate those two bear no comparison. Pep Guardiola systematically creates chances and minimises opposing xG through tactical circumspection and facultative positioning. Gareth Southgate parks deep, insists on playing through an immobile target man, and lucks into insubordinate creativity from the like of Ivan Toney, Cole Palmer and Bukayo Saka.
Haaland should also be on this list. Man was a different gravy when playing transitional football He was being used as a target man and Now he's stuck against a tight defense. he seems to struggle just like Zlatan. J.Alvarez was the better option for striker considering Peps system.
Yeah you feel like Haaland could carry any team that counterattacked before. But Man City’s play style is so different now that he can’t do anything if the team isn’t playing well
@@luke_will_taylor I wouldnt say he was carrying team before joining City, but he had more contribution to his game and also at dortmund, salzburg the team plays with high pace in transition which suited him. With this slow possession and low blocks that city are facing now, he looks like a shadow of his former self.
Tbh Joe Hart did not expect what hit him out of nowhere. If he did, and instead of letting his emotions for the club stall him (which one should never force a player not to), and left instantly he'd have lots of big clubs looking to sign him. Things would have been very different. Its almost unfair for him.
Coaches get a lot of credit for “developing” players who are teenagers when the manager takes over and in their prime when he leaves. So obviously they improved a lot. If I managed Lamine Yamal for the next 5 years, it wouldn’t be down to my genius that he got better at football.
In the spirit of Ryuzaki Day 9 of asking for an in-depth video on Bodø/Glimt, who just recently became champions for the 4th time in 5 years, and who only got promoted back to Eliteserien as recently as 2017 This is a gold mine, Alfie. Dig it 😎🇳🇴
Hot take. He ruined Agüero. He always tried his best to leave him out of the team but Agüero scored so much he couldn't. He even chose to play the champions league final without him.
you could make a similar case for haaland aswell, a huge part of his game at dortmund was out sprinting every defender he came up against chasing long passes from deep or coming deep himself to drive with the ball forward. at city he has to stand in a little zone and wait for the team to build it up to him
@@marketgarden1yeah Haaland is a useless player. I don’t buy his match interview about “not good enough”. Had the audacity to taunt and now, weeps for not making an impact. Gtfo crocodile tears
The ucl final season was when Aguero was injured for 70% of the season and he brought him on in the 77th minute. He literally said that City can not replace him
Pep didn’t ruin nunes, there was nothing to ruin, he’s an average premier league player, not good enough for city. It’s the clubs fault for signing him.
@@darkphoenix3881 he is not good enough for city, huge downgrade on the likes of David Silva, Gundogan, KDB and Bernardo silva. He’s a good player, that isn’t good enough for the standard that city have set.
He also single handedly ruined german football. The few years he spent at Bayern had a tremendously negative impact on the Germany national team and was one of the main causes to the awful period post WC 2014 win. I am very glad that Germany is slowly but surely finding its way back to how they used to play.
@@luke_will_taylorpep got torn a new one by Spanish teams during the years he was managing Bayern, real Madrid, Atletico and Barcelona took turns booty clapping pep's Bayern in the champions League
Did anyone force the Germans to copy Peps style??? SURELY they copied him because his Bayern team played the best football ever seem in Germany, they literally broke goal records, points records and more in the Bundesliga. Peps Bayern won the league by 20 points.. You're acting like someone put a gun to the German coach's head. Gtfoh.
Please do a vid on the 7 biggest teams that flopped. Teams that were expected to dominate and yet completely and utterly failed. I think of the galacticos and psg when I imagine this.
How did Pep RUIN Zlatan? He was there one year, it didn't work out, he left and had a long successful career! (Not a criticism at you, Alfie, but anyone who would even think that.) And I'm not even a big Zlatan fan!
Giving Guardiola credit for the development of David Alaba at Bayern is nothing less than an insult to Jupp Heynckes and Louis van Gaal. Van Gaal brought him, as well as Thomas Müller, into the first team and they won the treble under Heynckes. People often speak about Guardiola's impact on Bayern but they often conveniently ignore the impact that van Gaal had.
The video has merit - there are some footballers who regressed significantly in their careers after stays at Man City specifically during Guardiola. One could probably argue that case for a few more names worth a dishonorable mention. Even without doing further research I can recall Joao Cancelo (not sure why he wasn't in, despite being a quite recent example), Alvaro Negredo, Ferran Torres, Leroy Sane, Fernando, Jesus Navas (despite his subsequent longevity at Sevilla) and perhaps outlandishly even Sergio Aguero in his final couple of seasons at the club. All of them being talented, of course, but, for one reason or another, lost much of their value after City.
Some of these seem different in that they did well at Man City under Guardiola and failed after moving away. Sane and Fernando seem to fall into that category. Also Aguero who was entering the twilight stages of his career - no great footballer can go on for ever.
You’re crazy ferran Torres and and Leroy sane played their best football under pep. Hell pep fooled barca into thinking he is a 60 million euro player and Sane hasn’t been near his man city form after joining Bayern.
Guardiola never was the reason why Navas couldnt ball in England, guy was ill everytime he left his hometown, guy couldnt sleep, had panic attacks and was living on pills because of his sickness. Even now when he joined Spain squad and when playing international football he couldnt sometimes make it to play away games. Ofcourse dont take me wrong, i know he did his best when he could, he is still kicking it at Sevilla but i think he shouldnt leave the club and town in first place
Random request: National teams who's "golden generation" never amounted to much success. E.g (excluding the obvious) 50s Hungary, Mid 2000s-2010s ivory Coast. Early 2010s Argentina, and others I may have missed.
I actaually don't rate Guardiola as the best, all of the teams he has managed have at worst been the 2nd best team in the league when he took over and frequently the most expensive
I agree. This is the first time his team isn’t by far the best in the league squad wise. Due to many out of form or old players or just lack of world class players. And suddenly he just can’t win any more
It's not an uncommon opinion to have, but it's really difficult to judge the quality of a manager, at least if you try to do it using at least semi-objective criteria. Suppose you prefer managers who "do more with less", i.e. less expensive players. More expensive players don't always play better, so maybe price is not a good indicator of quality. Or maybe those specific players simply functioned better in that system. Less expensive players may have smaller egos, which might be easier to manage. Smaller teams might play in fewer competitions simultaneously, making rotation and squad depth less of an issue. So, sometimes it's easier to manager a big team, and sometimes it's harder. What about managers who "overperform" with small teams, but then when when they make a move to a bigger team, fall apart? Think about Graham Potter or Unai Emery as recent examples. Are they better or worse than managers who might have an opposite trajectory? Can the quality of a manager change over time, or is it static? What about Jose Mourinho? Is he good or bad? I think this is a much tougher question that people give it credit for.
City were quite literally the 4th best team in the league when Pep took over, at least according to the table, finishing level on points with LVG's Man Utd, but of course this will be ignored as it goes against the propaganda
Gabriel Jesus just doesn’t have that clinical striker’s instinct, the thing you can’t really coach into a player. If anything Pep actually made him look better than he is
You could say that he was like a striker but he could have him put down the wing and developed as a winger. So your claim that he made him look better than he was. Is false
But didn't he seem to have that when he arrived and it then disappeared or hasn't developed? Which may be down to coaching or system. Having said that, he doesn't seem to be getting it back at Arsenal, whereas Havertz suddenly seems to have developed it at last (most of the time anyway).
Grealish wasn't ruined by Guardiola, he was a slightly above average player in a very average Villa side that was massively over valued. He wasnt and never will be a £100m player
Pep did not ruin Gabriel Jesus, the guy is just crap at what makes a striker wanted, which is finishing his chances. He would start at a lower table club but he keeps wanting to start at top clubs
He's also the manager with the most match-fixing charges and accusations based on evidence, ever. Barca were caught during his time, and City flew PGMOL refs to Abu Dhabi for thrice the fee they get in the Prem. Since this season, City are no longer allowed to fly refs to the UAE, so City are struggling. City used to struggle when De Bruyne got injured, now they claim it's Rodri who's loss hurts City, but it's the loss of the PGMOL that's hurting City the most lol
Pep gets gifted literally the most elite, skillful team on the planet with some of the greatest players to ever live in their respected positions in Barcelona. Wins two ucl's, first of them being completely and utterly fraudulent, handed to him by UEFA as they disgracefully cheat Chelsea. He then goes to Bayern after Mourinho out smarts him with his real and despite getting some of the best players in Germany, fails to capture European glory in 4 seasons. He then signs for city, a team that he knows will buy whatever player he asks for, and even boasts about the fact. With this team and billions spent, he finally manages to win another champions league, that too after multiple failed attempts. For this win, he literally has to rely on the best talent in the world, costing billions, something which Mourinho and klopp did with far less money spent and much inferior players. As soon as 2 key players get injured, his team starts crumbling like a sand castle, exposing his managerial ability as nothing more than relying on his daddy sheikh to buy the best players for every position. Pep shouldn't even be counted in the argument for one of the greatest managers.. He's a fraud who only wins because of money and generational talent of his team. He could never, ever do with saf, klopp and mourinho did.
Te respondo en español, así que traduce: La pregunta es por qué esos grandes clubes han preferido contratar a Guardiola y no a otros entrenadores. Además, no le das ningún mérito a los logros o mejoras de muchos de sus jugadores que ha perfeccionado como Messi, Busquets, Piqué, Pedro, Jeffren, Thiago, Foden, Rodri 🏆, Akanji, Stones, entre muchos otros. Un entrenador que ha estado 16 años en la élite me parece que es de los mejores, aunque sea en grandes clubes, como si fuera fácil manejar los egos de esas superestrellas (son miles los entrenadores que han fracasado). Y si hablamos de otros entrenadores, también tienen grandes fracasos. No hay ninguno que no los tenga en algún momento de su carrera. Es más, si revisas el promedio de gasto de dinero por cada título obtenido, el de Guardiola me parece que es el mejor. (Es decir, ha necesitado menos dinero en promedio que otros entrenadores para ganar cada trofeo). Puedes consultar en transfermarkt.
@@emekaoguguo5023 exactly these clowns want dismiss pep so bad they dont evn see the money spent by other clubs and pep still manages to win when he lost they rise their head from graves to bark like they did something
@@jujgtdqaexrtrits the story of every year mate Let them bark their lungs out The guy will make a comeback for sure This kid just literally called Messi Busquets Iniesta And Xavi world beaters when at that time only messi was touted to be a Star in coming years meanwhile no one knew about Busi Iniesta Xavi and others Its a disgrace that such haters of this sport have the audacity to have Mobile Devices and Internet to bark about anything and everything ☠️
Henry, Eto’o, and Messi were amazing at Barca. I’m going to have to disagree with you on that one. Also, I don’t care who the manager was, nobody was going to outshine Messi during those years.
I don’t think you could have brushed over Hart’s resurgence at Celtic anymore if you tried. He became the second British player ever to win every trophy in both Scotland and England. He become a Celtic legend and credits Ange and Celtic for giving him the opportunity to love football again.
I know Oleksandr Zinchenko isn't considered a superstar, but I see him as one of the players whose potential was diminished under Pep's system. He was only 19 when he joined Manchester City. Of course, no one expected him to become a reqular starter for the first team, but he was an important player for Ukraine. He could play as both a false 9 and a left winger. He performed really well at PSV until Cocu started prioritizing Bergwijn. From the following season, his role changed drastically-from being a playmaker and a leader on the field to a left-back who isn't particularly strong defensively. All he's expected to do now is pass the ball to a defensive midfielder. Even worse, potential clubs no longer see him as a midfielder. He's now seen as just a poor left-back, which I think doesn't do justice to his skill set.
Grealish ruined himself, not even in England he wants to dribble freely, in Aston Villa he was a agile player but also intelligent, in City there has been a very reduced version of both. I blame his lack of confidence and the fact he plays against low blocks all the time rather than Guardiola.
@@haashim1411Look back when he managed barca when yaya toure was there and when he arrived at city where yaya toure was one of the best player in the squad
I'd say Kalvin Phillips ruined his career himself. He should've known there was no way he was going to be in the first team ahead of the likes of De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Kovacic, Rodri etc
Well, this was a symptom of a different problem I feel. Guardiola has an excellent track record as a coach when it comes to knowing the right guys for his system, and going out and getting them (having only had jobs where the money is there to do so certainly helps, but he could have his pick of players and his selections of certain players he knows he can get the most out of has been top notch for most of his managerial tenure). Man City also have a bit of a tendency - not that they're alone in this - towards making signings that look like they're designed from a standpoint of "we'll sign them so that nobody else can", and I'd say that Kalvin Phillips was one of those. As was Grealish, most likely. Phillips had outgrown Leeds, but Man City signing him ensured he didn't end up at one of their rivals. Grealish and Mahrez are other examples of signing somebody who is the star at an overperforming PL team, cutting them off at the knees and preventing any risk of them improving to join the top table. Those in the second group of signings are probably less Pep's personal choice and more likely to end up on this kind of list, because they're not signed because of their suitability to Pep's scheme, but instead have to adapt to it, some of whom will be more successful than others.
that amount of price tag not for his quality. that actually for the club to maintain at least an english player in the squad. Thats the price they have to pay. same goes to Rice and Maguire.its either to develope local player from the academy or buy externally.
Generally speaking, under pep, players that are inferior at dealing with pressure from all directions and making plays while creating spaces for others are demoted to sides. Because even if they might have been decent at their past club, Pep's team had players that are levels above other players, like Messi, KDB etc and in order for teams to operate correctly, some of them has to accept the supporting role. Grealish has never been good enough to play central under Pep even when he was given chances. Grealish contributed to treble by retaining possesion and being involved defensively. Now he won't even do that it seems. Zlatan had too big of an ego to accept that Messi is steps above him and he has to play around him. Henry was the polar opposite.
I don't really think it's Pep. When you look at other wingers his brought in or made stars like Mahrez, Sane and Sterling (still amazes me that Pep was able to make Sterling produce close to Messi numbers considering how much chances he missed)... it's more that Grealish isn't up to standard or may have just fallen off. You can't expect him to play the same type of role at Villa when he was the main man there but now his just one of the pieces of Pep's team.
Day 9 ( Just 691 left) 7 best Norwegian players in the premier league excluding Halaand and Ødegaard (too predictable and obvious) Could also be a series. many countries which had 7 different players playing in the Premier league. Maybe making a spin-off series where you look at the 7 worst players from said countries also.
2008 rooney, he had just 6 less g/a than torres with multiple injuries and won the trebble meanwhile torres won only the euros 2014 its neuer not neur but tbf some of those you mention should have been awarded even with cr7 and messi
This implies that Messi or Ronaldo was the cause of Covid 19 as in this hypothetical Lewa is awarded the 2020 Ballondor when it was cancelled due to Covid.
Alaba was brought up by Van Gaal and was great from the get go! I never forget his first game! We all thought "What the hell is going with lil Tiger Woods with the emo hair" same with Badstuber! Brought up by Van Gaal and was amazing from his first game on! If Badstuber wouldnt have been so injury prone, he would've been one of the greatest defenders of all time! He had the same team Heynckes had! Heynckes won EVERYTHING with the same team! Pep showed that he can take a world class team and make them never lose the ball! Thats basically it! As a german i will never forgive him what he did to Götze! Götze got depressed because of him! Götze had the potential to become the greatest german player of all time and he ruined him!
He ruined Shaqiri as well, who was effectively Robbens apprentice as a inside forward, but Pep saw him (a young trailblazing inside forward) and decided to lambast for his lack of "tactical intelligence" which destroyed his confidence and never got himself back to those heights.
@HallowedOstelogist I completely forgot about Shaqiri! Thanks for reminding me. Another reason to think Guardiola is a fraud and maybe for some to dislike him very much!
Also completely ruining Shaqiri because of his obsession with "tactical intelligence" (which he wasn't trained for because he was always specialised as a inside forward) Claudio Bravo was another one because he forced him to play in a style he didn't suit and refused to adapt to his strength, before killing his career by benching him for 3 years.
@nikolas8203 ^ I said he destroyed his confidence and thank you for providing more examples, although to be fair, he did a ton for stoke to keep them up for the last 3-4 seasons so
Grealish has never been that guy, never had the stats to back up his price tag before and after he signed with city, he didn’t have have most of his experience in the prem
it's an unpopular opinion but neither Grealish nor Phillips were ever good enough for Man City. Neither Grealish was a £100m player nor Phillips a £45m one. I really don't understand why both of them are so protected by the media while other like Antony, Mudryk are completely battered, don't get me wrong they are not good enough players, but neither are Grealish and Phillips. My take on Grealish is that he is a very marketable player, he is attractive, he is fun and he is the kind of player that is not common nowadays but was very common in the past, he likes drinking/partying and the bad boy image and that's appealing to young men
Bad boy? He's as hell bent as Freddie Mercury. He showed up at a boxing event with some girl she was small and fat. Not a usual stunner for a prem player. It was announced as his friend, where is/was his stunning wife?
Grealish was bought for the betterment of the team,he draws players to him opening up space for others,he wasn’t bought for goals ,he is a possession based player and pep sets up as a possession based team….ppl who know football understand this..granted they overpaid for grealish by bout 30 mil, plus there is his commercial appeal…..pep didn’t need to sell Sterling though,he was doin good numbers regularly and it’s way too early to judge nunes…Jesus wntd more game time,he put good numbers out when fit…….Phillips I completely agree,(he should go bk to Leeds even in championship and get his aura bk)
Joe Hart's sidelining and downfall was so sudden that back in the day I used to think the guy was like 4-5 years older than what he actually is. Roughly 2 years ago I was like "Hart is still playing, isn't he like 40?" Nah dude was 35 he was just done dirty
remove cr7 (he didnt play for much time in the prem) and bale (also didnt play for much in the prem) and add in kane and andy cole (you could also remove bergkamp and add aguero in his place)
No mention of Yaya Toure. Absolute legend this guy and Pep ran him out of both Barcelona and followed him to City and ran him out of that club as well. Totally weird stuff.
I agree with your initial statement, you really don’t have a lot to pick from, as most of these are a reach. Gabriel Jesus himself is to blame. He’s too emotional and mopey. He’s also not the first Brazilian we’ve seen look world class as a youngster, only to flop in European football. In fact, it’s hard to think of any other country (aside from England) where we’ve seen so many examples of top drawer youngsters fail to meet what looks like their potential. Thierry Henry said he said he has to relearn everything he knew about football under Pep. His second season at Barcelona was also really good. He’s not worthy of inclusion in my opinion. Jack Grealish was a big fish in a small pond at Villa. Everything went through him. He was the first player his teammates looked for. There was much less pressure. At City, Grealish was no longer the main man and hasn’t stepped up. Also, Doku has come in and proved that Pep has no problem with an explosive left winger taking players on and bursting into the box - the things Grealish used to do for Villa. Also, Ederson is absolutely levels above Hart ever was and Hart being replaced has been justified. If Hart was that good, he could have rebuilt himself in the same way Martinez and Leno have elsewhere after being pushed out of Arsenal. But he didn’t, because he probably couldn’t.
This might be the best argument for a salary cap or fixed squad sizes, say what you want about American or Australian sports leagues but the only players who are 'wasted' are backups who can easily bargain for a better position on a new team
The problem with fixed squad sizes, can they actually handle the ever increasing cluttered schedule of the football calendar? What happens if they have too few players due to injuries? I do agree on the salary cap.
I disagree with a few ones: Henry was on his way down, heaving lost a lot of his physical attributes which made him the beast we think of him at Arsenal even in the last 2 years before Guardiola came. Part of it was due to injuries in his last season at Arsenal. There were even articles in his first Barcelona season which stated that he lost his speed and couldn't beat his man anymore (which he was known for in his prime). Under Guardiola he was having a phenomenal first season and I think after that injuries came back more and more again and shortly after he left. For Jack Grealish I think he played a lot of games under Guardiola. I don't think however he was ruined but more that he was never good enough to be the main man at a top club. He had great moments at Aston Villa but I didn't think he was that special to spend 100 million for a player like that. I think the Gabriel Jesus one is spot on. This is a player who he has ruined his confidence with the excessive discipline. Maybe one could make a case for Bojan Krkic who for some time showed huge potential.
Zlatan was just redundant at Barça. They didn't need him and Pep was right to get rid of him. Zlatan was much more suited for the Serie A any way. A win=win I think.
I don't feel like Guardiola ruined Nunes, because I don't think he was that great to begin with. At Wolves, he was more of a promising player rather than top tier player. Just didn't put it completely together there, and he hasn't at City either.
IBRA. I holidayed in Barcelona summer he was signed and he was on huge billboards everywhere. He was on fire until the Messi EGO kicked in! Ask David Villa!
Ibrahimovic notoriously struggled to settle, missing open goals. Blaming Messi’s ego is ridiculous when Messi was literally handing Zlatan penalties to try and get on the scoreboard. Zlatan had trouble with Pep, not Messi.
I dont think Pep ruined Gabriel Jesus. I think Pep gave him more chances than he deserved. Gabriel Jesus never kicked on and became good enough for an elite club
So you openly admit that the first player in your "Ruined by Pep" list wasn't even ruined by Pep. I have never seen that in any of your videos. And quite frankly, the framing of this video is flimsy at best.
Henry had already had a mediocre season in 06 07 with Arsenal before going to Barcelona. If you’re from that generation you’ll remember that the feeling was that Barca had bought a washed player
Exactly. The absolute soul has been ripped out of that club. It will never return especially now with all of these charges etc. Football really is broken now
I think this video is done in good faith, but it misses the real point of contention. It’s not that Pep ruins players (although I am sure you can find examples of people using this strawman), it’s that he stiffles individual brilliance in favour of functional players for his system. You touched on it with some of the picks (Henry, Jesus, Grealish), but if you focus on players who were obviously worse, then you’re missing the point. Of course many players have successfully assimilated within Pep’s style, but they still fit the bill in terms of having their individual brilliance restricted in his system. Then on the point of Henry never criticising Pep, that may technically be true, but he has made a comment that actually perfectly illustrates my point, where he said that he once scored a goal where he vacated his position because he knew he could beat his man, and Pep was mad at him for doing so, despite it being an important goal. This emphasises how to Pep, functional discipline is more important than individual attributes. Of course you can argue that the results speak for themselves, but the criticism (in it’s proper form) is still true.
That's something I really did see that the video missed. Pep is very good with creating masterful tactical systems but many times we have seen that he struggles (at best) or may be against (at worst) against letting individual brilliance shine. He likes control but that control has cost so many players their individual ability. On the point of Henry, in that game I believe Pep actually took him off during halftime because of him vacating his position. Which shows how much he cares more about his personal obsession with control instead of individual brilliance of players. Of course, results speak for themselves.
And eventually pep’s stubbornness and dogmatic insistence on preserving control at the cost of individual brilliance has come back to haunt him following rodri’s injury. As he is essentially the main motor in the side maintaining the control system with him out said system crumbled with no one able to pick the torch up and impose themselves because that goes against the way pep wants the team to play
@@e-money9251 that is the problem with his system based teams, when one important player has bad form or gets injured it messes up his team. He was lucky that Bousquet never had any major injuries during his time at Barcelona. If he got injured a substitute would have been almost impossible to find.
@@nikolas8203 while I agree with you that pep didn’t handle the squad planning well we are more so talking here about how pep’s sacrificing player’s individuality for the sake of the system and control has now come back to haunt him as that means the players are now tied to his system. Had he let his players, especially his flair players like grealish and foden, do it for themselves instead of tying them to the system while he might not get the control he wants when the system itself is not working they can still step up to cover the cracks
Pep would've ruined Palmer. Well maybe not "ruined" him but certainly would've molded him into a much different player, a system player, who would likely be not as good as as he is now.
4 hours after this video was released, Man City extended their record to 1 win in their last 12, compared to 1 win in their last 11 at the beginning of the video. I, for one, am revelling in it. Bring on the end of March and their guilty verdict.
Phillips knew what he was doing when he signed for city. There was no way he was getting in that midfield. City needed a player who could cover their English player quota, he was a good player, but he took the money and opportunity to get some silverware against his name.
3:05 Martín Demichelis was great for me in Football Manager 2010. Further proof that my managerial style is superior to Guardiola’s.
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Go get your badges and prove it then
I made Denilson the greatest player in the world in CM 97-98. I'm better than Lippi, Capello and Trapattoni combined.
Absolutely love it 😂😂😂
First division brazilian team Atletico Mineiro is hiring their coaches by Linkedin, you should drop a resume mate, I believe in you!
Bro forgot Jamie Tartt
@@Moray2023 versus who though?
TBF he left to go to lust island on his own😅
i'm the 666 like of the video 😂
@@lordbendtner6404room temp iq
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I’ve never understood how Grealish gets such an easy ride in the media.He’s the best I’ve ever seen at celebrating trophies he had nothing to do with winning.
May I introduce you to the concept of John Terry
@@T.E.S.S.came here to say Terry
To be fair he was crucial in winning the treble an that's what he's MOST known for celebrating wildly so i'd disagree
@@T.E.S.S.what do you mean? Terry was a beast at Chelsea, grealish has been a flop the media just don’t criticise him
@@T.E.S.S. yeah Terry is the exact same as Grealish, Terry sucks so much how on Earth does Chelsea have the EPL goals conceded record with him in it???
A Goldbridge content warning would have been appreciated
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He's pleed the geem.
My condolences to anyone's ears while wearing headphones. 😂
Does anyone know a software that orevents earrape??😂
Bit rude to ignore the detail of Hart's absolute renaissance at celtic. If pep ruined him, Ange fixed him. He was wonderful for those seasons under Postecoglu.
Not sure you can call playing for Celtic a renaissance. The team is a big fish in a small pond, so would've received much less shots than the other clubs he played for since Man City. Its also a league that doesnt bother with Goalkeeper distribution, further proving peps reason to bin him
@@jackbrownio3 huh nah man, even considering the difference in quality, he played really well there and learnt to love the game again - which is the most important thing.
Very well respected and thanked by celtic fans for helping them turn around the rough place they were in before ange signed and signed him.
@ fair play to him enjoying himself and performing well at that level, but would still argue that he wouldnt have made the bench at any top 5 league side
Tbh pep had a very mature conversation with him and treated him properly
😂😂😂😂😂 Thats Celtic lil bro... He could have gone Leyton Orient and done the same thing ffs. He was facing shots on goal from the likes of Liam Boyce and Tony Watt... like chill out. 😂😂
the zlatan etoo exchange between inter and barca always confused me even back then
Its the kinda fun deal we dont get anymore though. I miss swap deals
@jord.an6123 oh don't get me wrong I do miss crazy deals like that it's just weird 😄
I'm biased but to me it could be the best transfer of all time. Getting Eto'o and then becoming the only ever Italian club to win the treble just feels so good 😂
@@milaninter2442 I have to say I'm surprised how undervalued etoo was, I get that impression because it feels like Barca didn't care about getting rid of him but I might be wrong , I have to say tho that whole saga was like a fairytale redemption for him so I'm glad it worked out
Back to back treble winner Eto'o with 2 different clubs, genuinely don't think we'll see that again in our life time.
I think you're forgetting Henry was 30 when Pep became manager and played shit in his final season at Arsenal so I wouldn't say Pep ruined him but he was declining anyway.
Yeah the argument for Henry was unconvincing i would rather say he revitalized him instead
Wtf, Pep completely revitalised Henry…. What a bunch of nonsense!
@@gustural Closer to that than ruining him that's for sure he won a treble with Barca something that was never going to happen at a club like Arsenal
That’s what I said
Henry in 08/09 had a excellent season 19 league goals 6 in champions league whilst playing narrow of a front 3 catered to Messi, he himself admits that that season pep made him see football in a new light opened up a new part of his football brain to understand the game in a different way, had his best season in terms of trophy’s hardly call that ruined
Please also do this for Mourinho, Ferguson and others
Niet gedacht dat ik jou hier zou zien, nice man
@knoert7977 love dit kanaal haha, kijk elke video
If he did Wenger it would be the longest video he ever made
Yep, I would love this to turn to a series
@@zeynx5767 nonsense
Cole Palmer is a good example.
People say "City should never have let him go" but he would never have been allowed to play the same way with as much freedom as he does at Chelsea, if he stayed at Man City. He would have been a bit part player at best.
Pep's football relies on system players and there have been many talented footballers who have fallen foul of style of football. There are also many great players who he has fallen out with.
So because you instinctively understand that Pep knows what he’s doing you have a pathological need to pretend that he doesn’t as if you understand things better😂. pathetic. players can do whatever they want with the ball dummy. they just have to work hard on defense and build up play. You probably think he Scripts out every pass.
you can’t include someone as a player who pep ruined bc you think if he had a chance he would ruin him. the fact is that he didn’t so therefore he can’t be put on a list like this
@@rainbowsprankles6085 That's not true. Different systems and styles of football allow certain types of players to thrive and others to struggle. That's the point of having different formations.
Jack Grealish is a great example. He is a different player than when he was at Aston Villa mainly because his role in the team was different and Villa played a completely different style of football to Man City with different expectations with and without the ball.
@@PogChampion45 That's a fair point but I still think my comment is true.
If Pep thought Palmer had a place in his team then he'd have played him and definitely don't think he'd have hit anywhere near the numbers he has at Chelsea if he'd had played in City's team for the same amount of time.
It was really between him and Foden and he went with Foden but I think Palmer is a much better footballer.
Pep was happy to sell a prime Samuel Eto'o, so he isn't averse to moving on very talented footballers.
If Pep had ruined Cole Palmer it would mean he had a sensational time at Man City, then was sold and his career went down the drain. But it’s kind of the opposite. He was decent young prospect for Man City but was never going to get into a midfield with De Bruyne, Foden, Gundogan, Silva and Rodri in it, so he left to get more games and has come on leaps and bounds whilst still in his early twenties.
I remember when Xherdan Shaqiri at Bayern was on the brink of stealing Robbens place in the starting lineup, playing exciting football on the left wing, and more and more coming inside for a dribble and cross or shot. Soon as Pep came, he publicly questioned Shaqiris „tactical intelligence“ and ruined the confidence of a young rising baller kind of player. That image stuck on him forever. So happy that Palmer got away just in time…
Also dont forget that because of pep, basically all old school hard man defenders and classic shot stopper keepers all of a sudden looked like farmers when mediocre managers forced them to play tiki taka in their own box, desperetaly trying to be seen as modern, ballplaying coaches.
how is Pep at fault for mediocre managers trying to play tiki taka? Did Pep tell them to adopt this style? So now Pep is to blame for his team failing and is also to blame for other teams failing? Idiotic comment
I’m sure it had an impact but I don’t think you can contribute Shaquiris entire lukewarm career to a short stint under Guardiola. He was decent at Stoke, underwhelming at Liverpool, and went to MLS early where he was also disappointing and ended his career fairly early. I actually saw him live for Chicago v Toronto and he was clearly the best player on the pitch, but didn’t accomplish much there.
PEP Only coach 1 Team in England .. Why don't they play their own style long balls .. Pep influence in England is that most teams now have technically better players who can now control the ball dead at feet and passing accurately instead of the 50/50 passing . Pep has not ruined Grelish the Guy was never a good shooter even at Villa look at his stats at Villa and his highlights. All happen he was given a free role at Villa to dribble all over the place .
@@BDAShadow1 these idiot fans don't know their head from their arse mate don't worry
I would've definitely included Bravo over Henry and Zlatan. The Chilean went from a very solid keeper, regular starter in la liga for a very good Barcelona side and on top of all that back to back copa america winner, to an absolute car crash of a player, who looked abysmal in his first season, and then was left to rot on the bench for three more seasons.
Sure, he was fine for Betis, but if he hadn't gone to City, he could've probably still commanded a move be the first choice at another European giant, like PSG, Juve or Chelsea.
Tried to slip Chelsea in as a European giant 😂
Bravo ruined himself. It’s not Pep’s fault that Bravo can’t save a shot
As of me writing this City are losing 2-0 to Villa. Make it 1 win in 12.
EDIT: City just lost 2-1 to Villa but the 1 win in 12 still stands.
and Jesus scored 2 for Arsenal
@@minnumseerrund don't take the lords name In vain
@@minnumseerrund Not even Lazarus can come back from that.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 One player at Arsenal is called Jesus
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 are you acoustic
Bro woke up today and chose violence.
The german video guy 😂😂😂
He has always been doing that and I love it 🤣😂
115 likes...... plsss don't like this comment anymore. Pay homage to man city
In terms of entertainment Grealieh was absolutely top notch at Villa and given the freedoms by Smith to show that flare. Man City are boring to watch even when winning. It almost felt like Southgate was trying to emulate the same thing with England
yeah, I never liked Man City, one reason is that they win everything, and the other is what you mentioned. I find them boring to watch even when they win. It's only fun when the other team on the field brings the entertainment and disrupts the City orderly manner of playing e.g. Liverpool (who I've always liked much more)
You're joking mate those two bear no comparison. Pep Guardiola systematically creates chances and minimises opposing xG through tactical circumspection and facultative positioning. Gareth Southgate parks deep, insists on playing through an immobile target man, and lucks into insubordinate creativity from the like of Ivan Toney, Cole Palmer and Bukayo Saka.
Unlike England, City do cross the half way line more often the not.
Grealishes best season at Aston villa was 6goals and 10 assist.That is average stats. Not worth £100m
I was really surprised not to see Joao Cancelo's name even mentioned, to be honest.
Pep gave that guy the best years of his footballing career, terrible shout
@PkNitro he was promising in Valencia, good in Inter and Juventus and pep both improved and ruined his career at City.
@@kaosblade Including a player Pep massively improved would have been incredibly stupid
@PkNitro massively is a bit much IMO, but that's why i said mentioned. One of the few players whose careers got ruined after falling out with pep.
Follically challenged is going into my vocabulary.
It's a pretty common terminology
@@lotuseater7247not everyone suffers from chronic hair loss
@@renaultmeganesuperleggera I don't think you understand english very well
One CL in 1 year in 13 years with those teams and billions is absolutely crazy.
Goes to show how tough it is to win that (unless you’re Madrid somehow)
That’s why I find it funny when ppl claim fergie is the goat, 2 in 26 years is the same as 1 in 13 years.
@@Will-gg1zr I mean it’s worse, because pep has actually won 3 in 16 years
@@Will-gg1zr but yeah facts you’re right
The great Bob Paisley...
Ancelotti and Paisley- the 2 greatest European competition managers ever.
"hands made of poppadoms" is one of my favourite goalie insults
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@@cell2179 what tf are you doing
Haaland should also be on this list.
Man was a different gravy when playing transitional football
He was being used as a target man and
Now he's stuck against a tight defense.
he seems to struggle just like Zlatan.
J.Alvarez was the better option for striker considering Peps system.
I am so happy you mentioned this.
Yeah you feel like Haaland could carry any team that counterattacked before. But Man City’s play style is so different now that he can’t do anything if the team isn’t playing well
@@luke_will_taylor I wouldnt say he was carrying team before joining City, but he had more contribution to his game and also at dortmund, salzburg the team plays with high pace in transition which suited him.
With this slow possession and low blocks that city are facing now, he looks like a shadow of his former self.
@ imagine him playing in Liverpool’s style? Would suit him so well
Haaland is just a poacher with pace he isn`t well-rounded as a footballer yet.
Tbh Joe Hart did not expect what hit him out of nowhere. If he did, and instead of letting his emotions for the club stall him (which one should never force a player not to), and left instantly he'd have lots of big clubs looking to sign him. Things would have been very different. Its almost unfair for him.
Coaches get a lot of credit for “developing” players who are teenagers when the manager takes over and in their prime when he leaves. So obviously they improved a lot. If I managed Lamine Yamal for the next 5 years, it wouldn’t be down to my genius that he got better at football.
Tbf, footballers develope alot, even in professionell football, sometimes until after the age of thirty
Raheem Sterling was already playing great football at Liverpool...
I agree. I dont buy the narrative that Pep improved him a lot. Yes he scored a ton of tap-ins, but his overall play remained roughly the same.
Come on, Liverpool were crop before kloop😂
@@Topstrika-b4has a team yes but the individual players like Suarez, sterling and Sturridge were at their best
I love how all the low IQ armchairs know more than the pros and experts
Cap. As a liverpool fan i can say that pep definitely improved sterling.
In the spirit of Ryuzaki
Day 9 of asking for an in-depth video on Bodø/Glimt, who just recently became champions for the 4th time in 5 years, and who only got promoted back to Eliteserien as recently as 2017
This is a gold mine, Alfie. Dig it 😎🇳🇴
Hot take. He ruined Agüero. He always tried his best to leave him out of the team but Agüero scored so much he couldn't.
He even chose to play the champions league final without him.
you could make a similar case for haaland aswell, a huge part of his game at dortmund was out sprinting every defender he came up against chasing long passes from deep or coming deep himself to drive with the ball forward. at city he has to stand in a little zone and wait for the team to build it up to him
@@marketgarden1yeah Haaland is a useless player. I don’t buy his match interview about “not good enough”. Had the audacity to taunt and now, weeps for not making an impact. Gtfo crocodile tears
Man, i would have loved to see Aguero at UTD. Top class player.
He was always injured.
The ucl final season was when Aguero was injured for 70% of the season and he brought him on in the 77th minute. He literally said that City can not replace him
Pep didn’t ruin nunes, there was nothing to ruin, he’s an average premier league player, not good enough for city. It’s the clubs fault for signing him.
I think Alfie would likely agree with you, lol. He just ran out of players to include.
Is it?
Don't agree with you mate.
He is one of the best mezzalas I've seen.In a direct system he will shine.
@@darkphoenix3881 he is not good enough for city, huge downgrade on the likes of David Silva, Gundogan, KDB and Bernardo silva. He’s a good player, that isn’t good enough for the standard that city have set.
He also single handedly ruined german football. The few years he spent at Bayern had a tremendously negative impact on the Germany national team and was one of the main causes to the awful period post WC 2014 win.
I am very glad that Germany is slowly but surely finding its way back to how they used to play.
I didn’t know this. What happened? Did they try to imitate pep’s style when it didn’t suit them?
@@luke_will_taylorpep got torn a new one by Spanish teams during the years he was managing Bayern, real Madrid, Atletico and Barcelona took turns booty clapping pep's Bayern in the champions League
Did anyone force the Germans to copy Peps style??? SURELY they copied him because his Bayern team played the best football ever seem in Germany, they literally broke goal records, points records and more in the Bundesliga. Peps Bayern won the league by 20 points..
You're acting like someone put a gun to the German coach's head. Gtfoh.
Please do a vid on the 7 biggest teams that flopped. Teams that were expected to dominate and yet completely and utterly failed. I think of the galacticos and psg when I imagine this.
Expected by whom
And dinamo zagreb in Croatia
I'm fairly sure there already is a video made by Alfie about this.
Liverpool of 20-21.
There's always a starting point mate don't haste
Every team Pep has taken up was either already really strong or he was given a blank check. I'd like to see him build a mid-table team up
How did Pep RUIN Zlatan? He was there one year, it didn't work out, he left and had a long successful career! (Not a criticism at you, Alfie, but anyone who would even think that.) And I'm not even a big Zlatan fan!
Giving Guardiola credit for the development of David Alaba at Bayern is nothing less than an insult to Jupp Heynckes and Louis van Gaal. Van Gaal brought him, as well as Thomas Müller, into the first team and they won the treble under Heynckes. People often speak about Guardiola's impact on Bayern but they often conveniently ignore the impact that van Gaal had.
He killed Mario Gotze, unforgiveable
Not his fault but injuries
The video has merit - there are some footballers who regressed significantly in their careers after stays at Man City specifically during Guardiola. One could probably argue that case for a few more names worth a dishonorable mention. Even without doing further research I can recall Joao Cancelo (not sure why he wasn't in, despite being a quite recent example), Alvaro Negredo, Ferran Torres, Leroy Sane, Fernando, Jesus Navas (despite his subsequent longevity at Sevilla) and perhaps outlandishly even Sergio Aguero in his final couple of seasons at the club. All of them being talented, of course, but, for one reason or another, lost much of their value after City.
Some of these seem different in that they did well at Man City under Guardiola and failed after moving away. Sane and Fernando seem to fall into that category. Also Aguero who was entering the twilight stages of his career - no great footballer can go on for ever.
You’re crazy ferran Torres and and Leroy sane played their best football under pep. Hell pep fooled barca into thinking he is a 60 million euro player and Sane hasn’t been near his man city form after joining Bayern.
Guardiola never was the reason why Navas couldnt ball in England, guy was ill everytime he left his hometown, guy couldnt sleep, had panic attacks and was living on pills because of his sickness. Even now when he joined Spain squad and when playing international football he couldnt sometimes make it to play away games. Ofcourse dont take me wrong, i know he did his best when he could, he is still kicking it at Sevilla but i think he shouldnt leave the club and town in first place
Random request: National teams who's "golden generation" never amounted to much success. E.g (excluding the obvious) 50s Hungary, Mid 2000s-2010s ivory Coast. Early 2010s Argentina, and others I may have missed.
Day 5 of asking for a video of the 7 greatest non-league players of all time.
I hope he never makes this video
@AO_Rourke why not? If you've got a genuinely good reason, then fair enough, but I think it'd be interesting.
😂 Thats harsh, made me laugh tho@@AO_Rourke
No one wants to watch that!
@@sheldon97sheldonpretty simple reason: no-one cares
I actaually don't rate Guardiola as the best, all of the teams he has managed have at worst been the 2nd best team in the league when he took over and frequently the most expensive
I agree. This is the first time his team isn’t by far the best in the league squad wise. Due to many out of form or old players or just lack of world class players. And suddenly he just can’t win any more
It's not an uncommon opinion to have, but it's really difficult to judge the quality of a manager, at least if you try to do it using at least semi-objective criteria. Suppose you prefer managers who "do more with less", i.e. less expensive players. More expensive players don't always play better, so maybe price is not a good indicator of quality. Or maybe those specific players simply functioned better in that system. Less expensive players may have smaller egos, which might be easier to manage. Smaller teams might play in fewer competitions simultaneously, making rotation and squad depth less of an issue. So, sometimes it's easier to manager a big team, and sometimes it's harder.
What about managers who "overperform" with small teams, but then when when they make a move to a bigger team, fall apart? Think about Graham Potter or Unai Emery as recent examples. Are they better or worse than managers who might have an opposite trajectory? Can the quality of a manager change over time, or is it static? What about Jose Mourinho? Is he good or bad?
I think this is a much tougher question that people give it credit for.
City were quite literally the 4th best team in the league when Pep took over, at least according to the table, finishing level on points with LVG's Man Utd, but of course this will be ignored as it goes against the propaganda
Agree. Kompany taking over Bayern after the tough go with burnley in the prem. Shows things can turn dramatically if you have quality players.
@nicholass7563 then why did Tuchel not win the league last season
Gabriel Jesus just doesn’t have that clinical striker’s instinct, the thing you can’t really coach into a player. If anything Pep actually made him look better than he is
You could say that he was like a striker but he could have him put down the wing and developed as a winger. So your claim that he made him look better than he was. Is false
But didn't he seem to have that when he arrived and it then disappeared or hasn't developed? Which may be down to coaching or system. Having said that, he doesn't seem to be getting it back at Arsenal, whereas Havertz suddenly seems to have developed it at last (most of the time anyway).
so whats your golden excuse for Grealish?
@@Kelo12He did play him on the wing but he wasn’t good enough there either
Grealish wasn't ruined by Guardiola, he was a slightly above average player in a very average Villa side that was massively over valued. He wasnt and never will be a £100m player
Pep did not ruin Gabriel Jesus, the guy is just crap at what makes a striker wanted, which is finishing his chances. He would start at a lower table club but he keeps wanting to start at top clubs
What a career Grealish could have had if he stayed in AV
They’d have built a statue of that mouth breather
I mean he's a treble winner
@thenegotiator1630 and out of the English squad, much poorer player
@@thenegotiator1630He's talking about individual career wrt skills, fame etc
I assume Grealish's sale funded a lot of important players for Aston Villa, would they be the same if they kept him?
He's also the manager with the most match-fixing charges and accusations based on evidence, ever. Barca were caught during his time, and City flew PGMOL refs to Abu Dhabi for thrice the fee they get in the Prem. Since this season, City are no longer allowed to fly refs to the UAE, so City are struggling. City used to struggle when De Bruyne got injured, now they claim it's Rodri who's loss hurts City, but it's the loss of the PGMOL that's hurting City the most lol
Pep gets gifted literally the most elite, skillful team on the planet with some of the greatest players to ever live in their respected positions in Barcelona. Wins two ucl's, first of them being completely and utterly fraudulent, handed to him by UEFA as they disgracefully cheat Chelsea.
He then goes to Bayern after Mourinho out smarts him with his real and despite getting some of the best players in Germany, fails to capture European glory in 4 seasons.
He then signs for city, a team that he knows will buy whatever player he asks for, and even boasts about the fact. With this team and billions spent, he finally manages to win another champions league, that too after multiple failed attempts. For this win, he literally has to rely on the best talent in the world, costing billions, something which Mourinho and klopp did with far less money spent and much inferior players.
As soon as 2 key players get injured, his team starts crumbling like a sand castle, exposing his managerial ability as nothing more than relying on his daddy sheikh to buy the best players for every position.
Pep shouldn't even be counted in the argument for one of the greatest managers.. He's a fraud who only wins because of money and generational talent of his team. He could never, ever do with saf, klopp and mourinho did.
Te respondo en español, así que traduce: La pregunta es por qué esos grandes clubes han preferido contratar a Guardiola y no a otros entrenadores.
Además, no le das ningún mérito a los logros o mejoras de muchos de sus jugadores que ha perfeccionado como Messi, Busquets, Piqué, Pedro, Jeffren, Thiago, Foden, Rodri 🏆, Akanji, Stones, entre muchos otros.
Un entrenador que ha estado 16 años en la élite me parece que es de los mejores, aunque sea en grandes clubes, como si fuera fácil manejar los egos de esas superestrellas (son miles los entrenadores que han fracasado).
Y si hablamos de otros entrenadores, también tienen grandes fracasos. No hay ninguno que no los tenga en algún momento de su carrera. Es más, si revisas el promedio de gasto de dinero por cada título obtenido, el de Guardiola me parece que es el mejor. (Es decir, ha necesitado menos dinero en promedio que otros entrenadores para ganar cada trofeo). Puedes consultar en transfermarkt.
The year before that fantastic Barcelona team won everything, they were fourth in La Liga with a stacked squad
Chill out mate
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@@emekaoguguo5023 exactly these clowns want dismiss pep so bad they dont evn see the money spent by other clubs and pep still manages to win when he lost they rise their head from graves to bark like they did something
@@jujgtdqaexrtrits the story of every year mate
Let them bark their lungs out
The guy will make a comeback for sure
This kid just literally called Messi Busquets Iniesta And Xavi world beaters when at that time only messi was touted to be a Star in coming years meanwhile no one knew about Busi Iniesta Xavi and others
Its a disgrace that such haters of this sport have the audacity to have Mobile Devices and Internet to bark about anything and everything ☠️
Henry, Eto’o, and Messi were amazing at Barca. I’m going to have to disagree with you on that one. Also, I don’t care who the manager was, nobody was going to outshine Messi during those years.
You forgot Ryad Mahrez, one of the most creative player and fun to watch in the PL. Pep limited him to the boring passing and defensive work.
Good call.
You didn't watch Man City 😂😂 Mahrez was one of City's best players
Pep literally allowed Mahrez to do his magic at City
😂😂😂go to sleep
I don’t think you could have brushed over Hart’s resurgence at Celtic anymore if you tried. He became the second British player ever to win every trophy in both Scotland and England. He become a Celtic legend and credits Ange and Celtic for giving him the opportunity to love football again.
1 win in *12
I know Oleksandr Zinchenko isn't considered a superstar, but I see him as one of the players whose potential was diminished under Pep's system. He was only 19 when he joined Manchester City. Of course, no one expected him to become a reqular starter for the first team, but he was an important player for Ukraine. He could play as both a false 9 and a left winger. He performed really well at PSV until Cocu started prioritizing Bergwijn. From the following season, his role changed drastically-from being a playmaker and a leader on the field to a left-back who isn't particularly strong defensively. All he's expected to do now is pass the ball to a defensive midfielder. Even worse, potential clubs no longer see him as a midfielder. He's now seen as just a poor left-back, which I think doesn't do justice to his skill set.
Grealish ruined himself, not even in England he wants to dribble freely, in Aston Villa he was a agile player but also intelligent, in City there has been a very reduced version of both. I blame his lack of confidence and the fact he plays against low blocks all the time rather than Guardiola.
None of this make any sense, is this bait?
BS ! Pep is to blame for his lack of confidence and changes in his playing style. Regardless if he plays for england or City.
@@Flips77 a lot of it makes no sense the way it is written
@@Flips77 Pep fangirls will never see anything wrong with him
Hes clearly been instructed not to dribble and take risks, just stay wide and draw fouls.
Definitely ruined Joe Hart but his last three professional years Joe has been one of the most loved players at Celtic. We were lucky to have him
How is Yaya Toure not in this list
How did he ruin him? In what way was toure’s career ruined?
@@haashim1411Look back when he managed barca when yaya toure was there and when he arrived at city where yaya toure was one of the best player in the squad
@@arep1030 when he arrived at city Toure’s legs were gone. He got one good season out of him.
I'd say Kalvin Phillips ruined his career himself. He should've known there was no way he was going to be in the first team ahead of the likes of De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Kovacic, Rodri etc
And he somehow kept getting picked by Southgate for England until Southgate stopped picking him. It’s too late for Kalvin to make it big.
Well, this was a symptom of a different problem I feel.
Guardiola has an excellent track record as a coach when it comes to knowing the right guys for his system, and going out and getting them (having only had jobs where the money is there to do so certainly helps, but he could have his pick of players and his selections of certain players he knows he can get the most out of has been top notch for most of his managerial tenure).
Man City also have a bit of a tendency - not that they're alone in this - towards making signings that look like they're designed from a standpoint of "we'll sign them so that nobody else can", and I'd say that Kalvin Phillips was one of those. As was Grealish, most likely. Phillips had outgrown Leeds, but Man City signing him ensured he didn't end up at one of their rivals. Grealish and Mahrez are other examples of signing somebody who is the star at an overperforming PL team, cutting them off at the knees and preventing any risk of them improving to join the top table.
Those in the second group of signings are probably less Pep's personal choice and more likely to end up on this kind of list, because they're not signed because of their suitability to Pep's scheme, but instead have to adapt to it, some of whom will be more successful than others.
Who's better Van Basten or R9?
Matches = 431 580
Goals = 301 371
Assists = 97 107
To be fair, 2 of those goals for R9 did win a World Cup
Van Basten
lol r9 clears,
More games, more goals, more assists. Let me think about this one 😂
R9.
that amount of price tag not for his quality. that actually for the club to maintain at least an english player in the squad. Thats the price they have to pay. same goes to Rice and Maguire.its either to develope local player from the academy or buy externally.
Generally speaking, under pep, players that are inferior at dealing with pressure from all directions and making plays while creating spaces for others are demoted to sides. Because even if they might have been decent at their past club, Pep's team had players that are levels above other players, like Messi, KDB etc and in order for teams to operate correctly, some of them has to accept the supporting role. Grealish has never been good enough to play central under Pep even when he was given chances. Grealish contributed to treble by retaining possesion and being involved defensively. Now he won't even do that it seems. Zlatan had too big of an ego to accept that Messi is steps above him and he has to play around him. Henry was the polar opposite.
22:53 this is absolutely top tier comedy. “He was up and coming in the photographs” 😂
Could we get a video ranking the best players that finished last in ballon d'or rankings please?
Not convinced Sterling improved under Pep. Yes he scored a shitload of tap-ins, but his overall play was roughly the same as at Liverpool.
I don't really think it's Pep.
When you look at other wingers his brought in or made stars like Mahrez, Sane and Sterling (still amazes me that Pep was able to make Sterling produce close to Messi numbers considering how much chances he missed)... it's more that Grealish isn't up to standard or may have just fallen off. You can't expect him to play the same type of role at Villa when he was the main man there but now his just one of the pieces of Pep's team.
I appreciate the early dig at bald managers and clarification of what you meant by 'ruined'. A thorough and hilarious analysis, as always, Alfie!
Hey Alfie, make a series on managers destroying players
Day 9 ( Just 691 left)
7 best Norwegian players in the premier league excluding Halaand and Ødegaard (too predictable and obvious)
Could also be a series. many countries which had 7 different players playing in the Premier league. Maybe making a spin-off series where you look at the 7 worst players from said countries also.
If Messi and Ronaldo didn't exist ballon d'or winners my opinion
2008 Fernando Torres
2009 Xavi
2010 Sneijder
2011 Xavi
2012 Iniesta
2013 Ribery
2014 Neur
2015 Neymar
2016 Suarez
2017 Neymar
2018 Modric
2019 Van Dijk
2020 Lewandowski
2021 Lewandowski
2022 Benzema
2023 Haaland
2024 Rodri
What u think?
Perfecto
2008 rooney, he had just 6 less g/a than torres with multiple injuries and won the trebble meanwhile torres won only the euros
2014 its neuer not neur
but tbf some of those you mention should have been awarded even with cr7 and messi
This implies that Messi or Ronaldo was the cause of Covid 19 as in this hypothetical Lewa is awarded the 2020 Ballondor when it was cancelled due to Covid.
2016 griezmann
@@powerouletdino9405it’s not that deep 😅
Grealish was a good player in a villa side but a £100 million price tag for him never worth that much
Erm, Joao Cancelo should be either number 1 or 2 here
Pep gave that dude the best years of his career and turned him into a top 2 fullback in the world
Always nice to see you do a sevens video Alfie
Alaba was brought up by Van Gaal and was great from the get go! I never forget his first game! We all thought "What the hell is going with lil Tiger Woods with the emo hair" same with Badstuber! Brought up by Van Gaal and was amazing from his first game on! If Badstuber wouldnt have been so injury prone, he would've been one of the greatest defenders of all time!
He had the same team Heynckes had! Heynckes won EVERYTHING with the same team!
Pep showed that he can take a world class team and make them never lose the ball! Thats basically it!
As a german i will never forgive him what he did to Götze! Götze got depressed because of him! Götze had the potential to become the greatest german player of all time and he ruined him!
He ruined Shaqiri as well, who was effectively Robbens apprentice as a inside forward, but Pep saw him (a young trailblazing inside forward) and decided to lambast for his lack of "tactical intelligence" which destroyed his confidence and never got himself back to those heights.
@HallowedOstelogist I completely forgot about Shaqiri! Thanks for reminding me. Another reason to think Guardiola is a fraud and maybe for some to dislike him very much!
Love your channel. I keep a discussion video running in the background when I sleep and this video came in just in time.
Do 7 top Player-Managers.
David Villa has to be number one. Putting him on the wing was a crime against football.
Also completely ruining Shaqiri because of his obsession with "tactical intelligence" (which he wasn't trained for because he was always specialised as a inside forward)
Claudio Bravo was another one because he forced him to play in a style he didn't suit and refused to adapt to his strength, before killing his career by benching him for 3 years.
Don't think so Villa faces injury & never made recovery
@HallowedOstelogist yes Shaqiri got relegated with Stoke because of Pep Guardiola. He was a bench player at Liverpool because of Pep Guardiola
@nikolas8203 ^ I said he destroyed his confidence and thank you for providing more examples, although to be fair, he did a ton for stoke to keep them up for the last 3-4 seasons so
Grealish has never been that guy, never had the stats to back up his price tag before and after he signed with city, he didn’t have have most of his experience in the prem
You could do one for Mourinho too
it's an unpopular opinion but neither Grealish nor Phillips were ever good enough for Man City. Neither Grealish was a £100m player nor Phillips a £45m one. I really don't understand why both of them are so protected by the media while other like Antony, Mudryk are completely battered, don't get me wrong they are not good enough players, but neither are Grealish and Phillips. My take on Grealish is that he is a very marketable player, he is attractive, he is fun and he is the kind of player that is not common nowadays but was very common in the past, he likes drinking/partying and the bad boy image and that's appealing to young men
Bad boy? He's as hell bent as Freddie Mercury. He showed up at a boxing event with some girl she was small and fat. Not a usual stunner for a prem player. It was announced as his friend, where is/was his stunning wife?
Grealish was bought for the betterment of the team,he draws players to him opening up space for others,he wasn’t bought for goals ,he is a possession based player and pep sets up as a possession based team….ppl who know football understand this..granted they overpaid for grealish by bout 30 mil, plus there is his commercial appeal…..pep didn’t need to sell Sterling though,he was doin good numbers regularly and it’s way too early to judge nunes…Jesus wntd more game time,he put good numbers out when fit…….Phillips I completely agree,(he should go bk to Leeds even in championship and get his aura bk)
Joe Hart's sidelining and downfall was so sudden that back in the day I used to think the guy was like 4-5 years older than what he actually is.
Roughly 2 years ago I was like "Hart is still playing, isn't he like 40?" Nah dude was 35 he was just done dirty
Jamie Carragher top 10 PL attackers.Do you Agree?
1.Thierry Henry
2.Mohamed Salah
3.Cristiano Ronaldo
4.Eric Cantona
5.Didier Drogba
6.Wayne Rooney
7.Alan Shearer
8.Eden Hazard
9.Dennis Bergkamp
10.Gareth Bale
Cantona out
Bergkamp out
Hazard out
Bale out
Aguero in
Harry kane in
Andy cole in
Giggs in
Bale out understandable
But why hazard
He won PL with chelsea and was the best player of Premier league for years
remove cr7 (he didnt play for much time in the prem) and bale (also didnt play for much in the prem) and add in kane and andy cole (you could also remove bergkamp and add aguero in his place)
You drag out getting to the point so much
@@Anameanme-nz8ozCantona and Bergkamp out is the worst football take of all time
No mention of Yaya Toure. Absolute legend this guy and Pep ran him out of both Barcelona and followed him to City and ran him out of that club as well. Totally weird stuff.
Damn, City just lost to Villa
It's worth noting that Eto'o also really didn't get on with Guardiola, as well as Ibrahimovic.
doesn't matter if Eto'o got on with Pep, they still won trophies together. Everyone at a football club don't have to be friends with each other
@@nikolas8203 The premise was that Ibrahimovic was unsuccessful because he didn't get on with Guardiola, but neither did Eto'o and he was successful.
I agree with your initial statement, you really don’t have a lot to pick from, as most of these are a reach.
Gabriel Jesus himself is to blame. He’s too emotional and mopey. He’s also not the first Brazilian we’ve seen look world class as a youngster, only to flop in European football. In fact, it’s hard to think of any other country (aside from England) where we’ve seen so many examples of top drawer youngsters fail to meet what looks like their potential.
Thierry Henry said he said he has to relearn everything he knew about football under Pep. His second season at Barcelona was also really good. He’s not worthy of inclusion in my opinion.
Jack Grealish was a big fish in a small pond at Villa. Everything went through him. He was the first player his teammates looked for. There was much less pressure. At City, Grealish was no longer the main man and hasn’t stepped up. Also, Doku has come in and proved that Pep has no problem with an explosive left winger taking players on and bursting into the box - the things Grealish used to do for Villa.
Also, Ederson is absolutely levels above Hart ever was and Hart being replaced has been justified. If Hart was that good, he could have rebuilt himself in the same way Martinez and Leno have elsewhere after being pushed out of Arsenal. But he didn’t, because he probably couldn’t.
This might be the best argument for a salary cap or fixed squad sizes, say what you want about American or Australian sports leagues but the only players who are 'wasted' are backups who can easily bargain for a better position on a new team
Hm yes. There could be a limit on salaries for players outside the first 11. So if you want a big salary, you need to be in the first team somewhere.
The problem with fixed squad sizes, can they actually handle the ever increasing cluttered schedule of the football calendar? What happens if they have too few players due to injuries? I do agree on the salary cap.
@@tc98826 big salaries should be earned, not given just so you can warm the bench all game.
@@robertnapier624 It's still unfair on smaller teams who can't stock up on replacement players
I disagree with a few ones: Henry was on his way down, heaving lost a lot of his physical attributes which made him the beast we think of him at Arsenal even in the last 2 years before Guardiola came. Part of it was due to injuries in his last season at Arsenal. There were even articles in his first Barcelona season which stated that he lost his speed and couldn't beat his man anymore (which he was known for in his prime). Under Guardiola he was having a phenomenal first season and I think after that injuries came back more and more again and shortly after he left.
For Jack Grealish I think he played a lot of games under Guardiola. I don't think however he was ruined but more that he was never good enough to be the main man at a top club. He had great moments at Aston Villa but I didn't think he was that special to spend 100 million for a player like that. I think the Gabriel Jesus one is spot on. This is a player who he has ruined his confidence with the excessive discipline. Maybe one could make a case for Bojan Krkic who for some time showed huge potential.
Please note that Mendy was acquitted of any rape or sexual assault charges.
Zlatan was just redundant at Barça. They didn't need him and Pep was right to get rid of him. Zlatan was much more suited for the Serie A any way. A win=win I think.
Ruined would imply that they fell off afterwards and you can’t level that at Zlatan.
I don't feel like Guardiola ruined Nunes, because I don't think he was that great to begin with. At Wolves, he was more of a promising player rather than top tier player. Just didn't put it completely together there, and he hasn't at City either.
IBRA. I holidayed in Barcelona summer he was signed and he was on huge billboards everywhere. He was on fire until the Messi EGO kicked in! Ask David Villa!
Ibrahimovic notoriously struggled to settle, missing open goals. Blaming Messi’s ego is ridiculous when Messi was literally handing Zlatan penalties to try and get on the scoreboard.
Zlatan had trouble with Pep, not Messi.
The 'Messi ego' haha.
I dont think Pep ruined Gabriel Jesus. I think Pep gave him more chances than he deserved. Gabriel Jesus never kicked on and became good enough for an elite club
11 hours and Jesus might not have lit the world on fire but we have seen a hattrick and a brace
IF PEP RUINED JESUS WHY IS HE NOT GETTING GOOD PLAYING TIME AT ARSENAL?
So you openly admit that the first player in your "Ruined by Pep" list wasn't even ruined by Pep. I have never seen that in any of your videos. And quite frankly, the framing of this video is flimsy at best.
negativity and city is a views cheat at the moment 💔
Not that deep tho is it
alright calm down
@@13aeddan I have to agree. This seems like a video made for the algorithm.
Henry had already had a mediocre season in 06 07 with Arsenal before going to Barcelona. If you’re from that generation you’ll remember that the feeling was that Barca had bought a washed player
I watched City as a young lad from 1971 to 1998, Its not the same anymore, Yes we win but the club isn't ours anymore
Exactly. The absolute soul has been ripped out of that club. It will never return especially now with all of these charges etc. Football really is broken now
It is the mentality, of buying before others... not that they need the player, but just deny others the option.
Just like Chelsea did
I think this video is done in good faith, but it misses the real point of contention. It’s not that Pep ruins players (although I am sure you can find examples of people using this strawman), it’s that he stiffles individual brilliance in favour of functional players for his system. You touched on it with some of the picks (Henry, Jesus, Grealish), but if you focus on players who were obviously worse, then you’re missing the point. Of course many players have successfully assimilated within Pep’s style, but they still fit the bill in terms of having their individual brilliance restricted in his system.
Then on the point of Henry never criticising Pep, that may technically be true, but he has made a comment that actually perfectly illustrates my point, where he said that he once scored a goal where he vacated his position because he knew he could beat his man, and Pep was mad at him for doing so, despite it being an important goal. This emphasises how to Pep, functional discipline is more important than individual attributes. Of course you can argue that the results speak for themselves, but the criticism (in it’s proper form) is still true.
That's something I really did see that the video missed. Pep is very good with creating masterful tactical systems but many times we have seen that he struggles (at best) or may be against (at worst) against letting individual brilliance shine. He likes control but that control has cost so many players their individual ability.
On the point of Henry, in that game I believe Pep actually took him off during halftime because of him vacating his position. Which shows how much he cares more about his personal obsession with control instead of individual brilliance of players. Of course, results speak for themselves.
And eventually pep’s stubbornness and dogmatic insistence on preserving control at the cost of individual brilliance has come back to haunt him following rodri’s injury. As he is essentially the main motor in the side maintaining the control system with him out said system crumbled with no one able to pick the torch up and impose themselves because that goes against the way pep wants the team to play
@@e-money9251 that is the problem with his system based teams, when one important player has bad form or gets injured it messes up his team.
He was lucky that Bousquet never had any major injuries during his time at Barcelona. If he got injured a substitute would have been almost impossible to find.
@@e-money9251 more like the club didn't do their squad planning properly and didn't provide a reasonable backup DM
@@nikolas8203 while I agree with you that pep didn’t handle the squad planning well we are more so talking here about how pep’s sacrificing player’s individuality for the sake of the system and control has now come back to haunt him as that means the players are now tied to his system. Had he let his players, especially his flair players like grealish and foden, do it for themselves instead of tying them to the system while he might not get the control he wants when the system itself is not working they can still step up to cover the cracks
Always consistently fantastic videos. Thanks Alfie
Also, "he might have been up and coming in the photograph" is brilliant
Pep would've ruined Palmer. Well maybe not "ruined" him but certainly would've molded him into a much different player, a system player, who would likely be not as good as as he is now.
4 hours after this video was released, Man City extended their record to 1 win in their last 12, compared to 1 win in their last 11 at the beginning of the video. I, for one, am revelling in it. Bring on the end of March and their guilty verdict.
Phillips knew what he was doing when he signed for city. There was no way he was getting in that midfield. City needed a player who could cover their English player quota, he was a good player, but he took the money and opportunity to get some silverware against his name.
He's currently got no chance of getting in the Ipswich midfield, 4th choice now
that's not really the point
Day 17 of asking Alfie to make another "Sorry, we need to talk about Hull City" video
70s 80s 90s 00s 10s 20s
Best in football?
Pretty sure those videos have been made a few years ago
The streets will never forget Joe Hart making Messi question his finishing capabilities.
You can't get the Pep fanboy out of Alfie, no matter how hard he tried.