2021 Genesis G80 2.5t Review: th-cam.com/video/K7PT2d88nxA/w-d-xo.html And correction at the 35 second mark, I said 2021 but obviously meant 2022. My brain 🧠 took a dump sorry.
Per Kia: Kia Motors America has made no official announcement regarding discontinuing the Kia Stinger. We will share more news when/if appropriate. ^RM
Picked up a GT2 AWD last April and still enjoy watchin' all these review vids despite owning one. Yours is one of the best of the bunch...I like your enthusiasm and apt description of the car on every level. Aside from its exterior looks and great performance I'm also impressed with the 750W 15spkr Harmon/Kardon sound system. It's an improvement on the Infinity system I had in my 2011 Optima EX. Heated and air-conditioned seats. Adaptive cruise control, lane sensors...all the toys and gadgets. Rain-sensing wipers, swivel headlights with auto-sensing hi/lo beam, auto-dimming rearview mirror...the list goes on and on. I've owned a lot of vehicles over the years - and this one without a doubt sits at the top of my favorites. Gets lots of looks and compliments.
Kevin I finally pulled the trigger and made it happen I bought the 2022 KIA STINGER GT2 AWD RED INTERIOR LAST WEEKEND WOO Hoo I am in the Stinger Community. Now all the videos u did on it years ago have came full circle for me.
@@MeynMotorGroup all of that is coming and on order including tune. Getting Tint and CERAMIC Coating soon after I add a Stingerhaus bodykit. To be tuned.... until next time See ya Kevin
These look a lot nicer in person, one of the cars that no matter how high quality the rendering is, they will always look better in person. To me, it really resembled an Audi, specifically the A7. You see one coming in the distance and you will definitely think it is an Audi. They sit quite low as well, quite hunched and wide. I think a lot of "non car" people will be shocked if they see the previous models with the KIA badge on such a car with presence. Gives it a somewhat "sleeper" status. Obviously more regular joe car people will know this vehicle definitely has the grunt and performance similar to that of an Audi / BMW
It doesn't look like an A7. It truly looks like an original Optima just lower and sleeker. The Genesis G80 in profile looks more like an A7 but the detailing is way different.
@@benjaminsmith2287 It has the hunch of the A7. In person from a far, it is easy to mistake it for an Audi. The front end maybe it does look like an Optima, but shape wise this car is closer to the A7
It was designed by a guy from Audi, and engineered by a guy from BMW (M Sport division), so no surprise about the looks comparison. We bought a 2022 GT2 and it's AWESOME! It feels like a BMW (We also own a 2021 BMW M550i). It's sad most people are scared off by the Kia badge...we'll just own one of the last models sold. 😎
That is true, this vehicle gets so much attention it’s insane. Every gas station or restaurant I walk in to, someone comments on it. I JB4 tuned mine with some simple bolt ons and HKS racing plugs to support , she pulls like a champ! Stock feels really conservative and she has a lot of hidden potential 🐝💨💨
Hey! That car is the whole reason I subscribed to your channel. I didn't think it was 100% on the decision to terminate Stinger production yet. I know it was close though. Unless something has changed. Still love that car. Also like your LC more. No contest.
Hey thanks and I really appreciate all the support you've showed me over the years. Yea I'm def sad to see it go such a cool car with a ton of potential
Man, Kia been killing it the last few years with their aesthetic appeal. I agree they did a great job with the new logo. Even though it's not your channel's cup of tea, I've really been digging the look of the Telluride. Just wish it was a little more in my cheap ass price range, lol. Thanks man for the video. The Stinger is quite the car. Hope Kia changes their mind about killing it.
@@SilentKnight43 Oh man, that would be a sweet upgrade from the Sorento. Hopefully she decides to go for it. Would make for a great looking pair of cars.
For a car that "doesn't sell well" they're everywhere in Virginia. Kia is foolish to think this could take many sells from the Charger or Euro compact sedans. It takes time crack that shrinking segment. Bottom Line: I chose the Stinger over the G70 because of the cargo space
I bought the Stinger here in Oz because it looks far better and is about $20K cheaper here. Cosmetic differences, almost a hatchback, longer warranty and so much cheaper. Not a difficult decision in the end.
@@timw2083 Hi Tim, they do in Western Australia, Queensland and the Northern Territory here in Oz. Not sure why they don't use them in other states as they use BMW 5 series. The ones that do use them apparently love them.
Enjoyed watching this review, especially since I subcribed way back 3 years ago, when you did videos on your own black Stinger GT, I still own my 2018 Stinger GT, here in Australia. 🇦🇺
Excellent review. I keep saying it, when all things considered, performance, driving experience, standard equipment, price and warranty, there is nothing close to this dream machine. I am biased, I love mine.
@@impropernovice2149 The G70 is also a brilliant car. If I didn't have the Stinger, I would have seriously thought about the G70. Affectively the same car but cosmetically different. Hope you get yours soon. Got mine washed yesterday and the chap spent 10 minutes talking about it before starting on it. People love looking at them and talking about them.
I cross shopped the Stinger GT1 with a Civic Type R. 2019 with about 20k miles, they are nearly equal in price. The Stinger is better in almost every way as a fun and comfortable daily driver. The only significant things the Type R has over the Stinger is the handling and the 6 speed manual. Aside from that, you get so much more value from the Stinger, it's insane. Not to mention the badass 100k mile power train warranty. The Stinger is such an insane used car value proposition, and no one is talking about it, it's actually crazy.
just fyi.., the hyundai/kia 100k warranty is specifically only for the original owner, unless CPO. Used car buyers default to the 5yr/60k mile warranty
Kia's after-market dealer service has always been poor. We've owned 6 Kia models over the years and service at two separate local dealers has, basically sucked. It's been bad to the point it nearly dissuaded me from recently buying a Stinger. I did anyways, simply because I love the car. But Kia needs to step up their service game.
you confirmed it. I'm getting one, but used. it will be one of must haves in my garage along with the Elantra N. I want the LC 500 you got brother. I rely on your reviews the most and appreciated u. Let me buy you a beer if you ever come out to cali.
i've ordered this, it will be my first car at age 28 as i've been riding motorcycles so far. Gonna take a few months until i get my hands on this beauty but man i am hyped. Test rode it once when i first started looking for cars and i never wanted to test any other cars after this one. I knew this is it
I have a 2021 Stinger GT1 RWD in Ceramic Silver with red interior. Can confirm iris an attention magnet. I think this will eventually be a cult classic like the Supra.
This will be a hot car in the used market. Nobody is buying it because the price is close to performance luxury cars. But this car used will depreciate and people will buy it and love it
The stinger is a great car , most people hate on this car only because its a kia , but then fail to realize it was designed and engineered by the germans , and this car doesn’t sell as well because people are such brand snobs they rather drive a a base 3 series that has no where near the performance or features because of how the badge makes you look The stinger gets so much attention tho id say its better than the badge tbh When you consider what the stinger competes against its priced well enough to capture some of the market who want 4 doors and awd and the performance. And evidence proves that the stinger is actually pretty well built and basically bulletproof with components plus it has a long warranty to cover your back.
I did my part... I bought a new GT1 two weeks ago. What a fantastic car. I agree the handling can be a little sloppy, but the detonator under your right foot is so addictive lmao. A manual is the only thing missing.
I got the 2022 Ascot Green GT Elite w/ Suede Fully Loaded. It's an absolute dream and a pleasure to drive that car, the interior quality is relative to that of high end Mercedes and audis with Alcantara leather places everywhere 😇
Great review! Man! I’m really contemplating if I should pull the trigger on this or wait a bit more, if the market will drop for these prices. Love this vehicle.
Thank you my friend! If you can get a good lease deal or incentives like $5k off msrp I think it might be worth looking into. Also check out the G70 and incentives on that as well
Another dynamite review Kevin, Kia has some good stuff going on, I have not seen one live but they look great. Sounds like a great car to buy second hand or lease.
Great review esp. relative to your previous Stinger ownership and review of other vehicles in between! I still have my 2019 GTS-DAWD and plan to keep it longer than had planned to. It has the "punchy" acceleration feel compared to my '13 Boxster S (enjoyed your review of that too). Stinger in Federation Orange is quite unique imo. Keep those reviews coming!
Some information on the Stinger from South Korea from someone in the Kia Sohari No one plant in South Korea they said that top down Management have not said anything of the Stinger been discontinued and the rumors started in the West.
The Stinger might not sell as well as they would like it in North America, but in Korea it's doing great! There are two problems for markets outside Korea: a lack of marketing for this particular model in the Kia line-up, and stupid badge snobs who still think they're living in 1990. Kia will still make a 2023 model year for this car, fortunately.
Great review Kevin as always, even though I am a Lexus guy, I hate to see the Stinger leaving the market.. I think a lot of people like this car, and I am one of them, Kia did an amazing job with this car as far as styling and driving dynamics, but they missed on the pricing and marketing aspects.
I wanted this for my daily driver but couldn’t justify 55K for my daily and already owning a 2021 BMW M5 Competition for the weekend and so one. I bought a 2020 Maxima platinum Certified with 3K miles before Chip shortage for 30K which is my daily driver. Again, wish I could get the 2022 GT2 for 10K less at 45K. Great Review!!!!
I love my Hichroma Red 2021 Kia Stinger GT. Love how people pull up next to me and compliment me on the car. You know it’s a beautiful car when even an old lady tells me how beautiful the car looks 🤣
The rumors for it being cut off has happened every year... like the same exact rumor 2-3 years in a row... why would Kia do a refreshment with an new motor and kill it? Makes no sense right? Its like their tactic of BMW with the LCI concept. This is probably the LAST year of the current gen design, introducing a new motor on the base model and styling upgrades. It could very well be a tactic to "preview" or "tease" a second gen.
Great review as always! I was hoping to hear your thoughts on any improvements since owning your Stinger. Oh and come on, literally all of those other "euro" cars are and feel faster to 60 and in general (M340i, S4, S5). The Stinger is no slouch though.
Thanks! Yea Improvements weren't crazy but it's cool though. The Euro cars especially the latest ones def have low 0-60 times but what I was trying to explain was those cars have such a rigid chassis, you don't feel the speed nor the feeling that you're getting pushed back into the seat, too solid for those weight transfer feels. Stinger has a sloppy chassis but the benefit of that is you feel the speed and you feel the braking all the G forces are felt but that's not good for handling so gotta pick and choose what you want
Gotcha! Thanks Kevin. Oh and your comparison drive a few years back between your Stinger and that dude's S4 was one of the reasons I bought an S4. Then I bought an S5...then an RS5 and now waiting on a 2022 RS5 Sportback lol.
@@chrisburry8147 S5 is maybe a tenth or 2 of a second faster, doesn't have as good of a warranty, has a smaller back seat and is more expensive. Only reason anyone would buy the s5 over the stinger is the need for a status car. Period.
is this year a must or previous years will do? i'm in no rush and want the best performance and it seems 2022 has a big gap in performance vs prior year models.
I have a 22' KIA Stinger GT2 Scorpion Edition 🦂 with Ceramic Silver Paint. It's JB4 Tuned. Injen Cold Air Intake. The Lit Kit Velossa Tech Air Duct System(Really Cool)HKS Performance Spark Plugs, Ark grip catback exhaust system and the Ark Downpipes(Crazy)Dragy App and system.(Cool)
@@MeynMotorGroup no lmfao I have a Honda Clarity for the time being. Car is a total shitbox but it's cheap to run it so that was the plan. HUGE downgrade from a Stinger. Kick myself about it at least a few times a week. But I picked up a job that's farther away from my house. And with the Stinger being like 19MPG and needing 93, my wallet told me I should probably get out of this thing while the used car market is so high. My buyout was $27K and change, and I managed to sell it for $33K. Idk what I'd be paying in gas now. I sold my baby back in March. And back then, working both jobs, I was spending like $260-300 a month just on gas for the thing. No way was that making sense to me. Not on top of my already high monthly payment
You did great good time to sell car prices and fuel costs are just nuts right now so better to just save for a bit and buy later maybe a dedicated sports car. I just told another gentleman to get a Miata it's fun and relatively cheap to own
@@cordinate81 fuck that. I'm not a Scotty Kilmer. I want my car to be able to do MORE than just turn on everyday, which is basically all this Honda is good for. I yearn for a smooth drive and a nice sound system again. Lol. That's literally all I'd need to be happy. And instead I've got what I got. Despite it being a 2018 and a top trim level and basically an EV... It's horrible vs. a Stinger. It might as well be a car from 2009
Well used cars are just over priced right now so buying new just makes sense. But you have to learn how to negotiate. Right now I know you can get close to 10% off MSRP on CX-5s before incentives. See the Leasehackr forum to see which cars can be had for the best deals and for tips on negotiating.
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks, the Stinger GT model has been my dream car since college so I got a good-paying job in IT and now I can afford the dream. I bought the car before dealers started going crazy because of the chip shortage. Honestly owning one still feels surreal.
To answer what Kia has done, they underrated the power of the Stinger. They're actually making around 400 at the crank. With some stock Stingers hitting as high as 350 at the wheel
@@impropernovice2149 i live in Europe were we dont get Genesis yet and infiniti never sold in my country as well but i already seen a q50 in spain were they sold it and that car looked alien on this roads .I believe genesis wants to get into the european market and let me tell you when they release those cars here ,people going to fking flip cuz all we see here is mercs and bimmers and when they see bentley like cars walking in they aint going to be ready.Lexus is also stupid rare here ,i live in Portugal btw
Kevin I'm surprised you didn't mention your personal ownership experience or link to your very early videos about it that practically started your channel.
I’ve read that there are two big issues with the Stinger. #1- crappy paint job. #2- oil leaks transmission seals. I’d like to but a Stinger, but worried about KIA QC. I tend to keep my cars until they wear out. LOL.
That’s crazy right? If you look at the U.S. annual sales the Stinger has out sold the G70 every year. One would think based on the data the G70 would get the axe. Are you going to upgrade your Stinger to the ‘22 MY? Also the articles I’ve read said the 2023 is the last model year not 2022.
Haha 😄 with a little editing and a tan right but nope just me I don't put nearly enough effort into my video making as be does 😅 he's does some amazing stuff
@@Normalguy7100 true. I'm an ex kia owner. Had a Sorento sx and an optima. Both brand new Were decent cars fully loaded, but always wondered why didn't I just shell out extra for an Acura or a 4runner. I'm now exclusively Toyota/Lexus and don't regret 1 bit switching over. Even tho my Sequoia limited dosent have all the features my Sorento had, I'm 10000000% happier with the driving experience.
as a Kia owner I like the Car and I think about it to buy one but unfortunately the Car is very expensive in Germany, not only the price of the Car also the Tax every year is high and the Insurance is very expensive + gas is very expensive in Germany too. Thanks Kevin.
Yea hard to justify many cars in Germany due to the tax and insurance you mentioned. Mercedes E classes and up are probably my most favorite driving Euro cars but those are also pretty expensive
I believe the main issues with the Kia Stinger is the price, I believe the cost in the US ranges between $59,000 to $68,000. In Australia the cost is much more depending on the exchange rate. I love to buy a 2022 Stinger GT but can't afford one. Drop the price = more sales and save the car from distinction.
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you for the correction, wasn't sure of US pricing. However in Australia, depending on the echange rate, the vehicle costs are higher. Currently 1 Australian dollar is sliding between 72.7 to 73.2 cents per US$1.. The Kia Stinger GT is used in many Australian states as interceptors vehicles 🚔 especially in country area where highways go forever. Make you day a great one👍
The reason why people are not buying the Stinger is the fact that most people that are shopping for a car in that category consider the Stinger as their last option, their "Worst case scenario" option because at the end of the day it's wearing a KIA badge. People don't forget what KIA as a brand was back in the days. They find it hard to spend all that money on a KIA when for just a little bit more they can get a known luxury brand
Well they also need to stop neglecting the GT1 trim that undercuts the comp by 10-15k but whatever this doesn't handle nearly as well as the competition and the ride doesn't benefit from the softness so yea I would take my business to the German or Japanese Rivals but this is a cool car and worth considering with discounts I won't deny that
The IS F feels a lot better and has more character but you may want to upgrade to RC F GSF or IS 500 since they are newer and another step up from the IS F. But IS F is legit
@@MeynMotorGroup thanks man ! , I want an isf for that rarity aspect and also because it’s lighter than all the other F’s something I’ll consider though , maybe I have to test drive a GSF
The other F cars actually don’t feel insanely different from the IS F which is crazy since the IS F came out in 08. They mainly come with better/newer tech and if you care the new F cars will be safer in a crash test.
Such as shame we are losing this fabulous car, the only thing I could pick is the front could be a little more aggressive looking but it's subjective. Being from the old school I always like the big power trains and RWD and KIAhave absolutely nailed the interior. Again love the sideways look for those nasty boys with flashing lights before booting it. The suspension is tuned for Australian roads and they have done a great job you can really hit those winding roads hard or it's really compliant on long drives. Great look at this fantastic tourer really enjoyed your take on it. If I was in the market for this type of vehicle I'd buy it, damn hard to go past the LC though! Cheers Brenton 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
But.... The question I ask is,,, Have they fixed the issue with the Rattling Sunroof?.... I owned the 2018 stinger Gt & had all sorts of problems with the sunroof!. In the end got a refund
I feel like I'm being nitpicky, but I test drove an Stinger and just thought it was too tight on the inside for me. I wish they made this the size of the Arteon so that you could fit a family. Either way, I wish more people bought this and Kia had time to continue working on this.
I want to get one but I'm not sure about the dealership experience and I feel like it's rather boat like but I shall see what the next Gen type R will look like before I get a Stinger
So weird that their excuse for axing the stinger is that it doesn't sell yet you cand find a 2022 gt2 within 100 miles of your location that hasn't been grossly marked up in price unless it's white, then you might find 2. Lol. Especially the awd model. I've been shopping for one. Not trying to aquire one that every salesman/service guy has beat on fresh from a cold start. It's very annoying that you have to sacrifice so much just to get a color you actually want. This could have been the GTR of kia. Same platform for years while gradually upping the HP. GET IT TOGETHER KIA.lol
IMO It comes down to cost and branding, they are taking r&d dollars equivalent to an m4 or m5 and putting it in a practical budget brand, when you have genesis, the stinger will stay alive through the g70 with that they can better justify the costs of development through vehicle pricing...I predict the stringer will thrive on the used market though
Trust me they didn't use THAT many r&d dollars they slapped this thing together its no where near on the same level of driving dynamics as the Euro cars just has a great motor and lots of practicality
2021 Genesis G80 2.5t Review: th-cam.com/video/K7PT2d88nxA/w-d-xo.html
And correction at the 35 second mark, I said 2021 but obviously meant 2022. My brain 🧠 took a dump sorry.
Per Kia: Kia Motors America has made no official announcement regarding discontinuing the Kia Stinger. We will share more news when/if appropriate. ^RM
Nice review keep up the good work
Picked up a GT2 AWD last April and still enjoy watchin' all these review vids despite owning one. Yours is one of the best of the bunch...I like your enthusiasm and apt description of the car on every level. Aside from its exterior looks and great performance I'm also impressed with the 750W 15spkr Harmon/Kardon sound system. It's an improvement on the Infinity system I had in my 2011 Optima EX. Heated and air-conditioned seats. Adaptive cruise control, lane sensors...all the toys and gadgets. Rain-sensing wipers, swivel headlights with auto-sensing hi/lo beam, auto-dimming rearview mirror...the list goes on and on. I've owned a lot of vehicles over the years - and this one without a doubt sits at the top of my favorites. Gets lots of looks and compliments.
Hey thank you my friend and massive congrats on the beautiful GT2 Stinger! Enjoy
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks muchly.
Kevin I finally pulled the trigger and made it happen I bought the 2022 KIA STINGER GT2 AWD RED INTERIOR LAST WEEKEND WOO Hoo I am in the Stinger Community. Now all the videos u did on it years ago have came full circle for me.
Wow sir yea I def remember you massive congrats very happy for you enjoy that Stinger!
@@MeynMotorGroup I already have a MOD LIST of upgrades coming for it so I will surely keep in touch with you STING ON
Def do an intake no doubts there and hopefully you do that sway bar heard it "transforms" the handling so would be cool to hear your thoughts on that
@@MeynMotorGroup all of that is coming and on order including tune. Getting Tint and CERAMIC Coating soon after I add a Stingerhaus bodykit. To be tuned.... until next time See ya Kevin
I’ve been binge watching stinger videos like crazy. I wish I was in the market for this car. Great review btw!
Glad to hear that its not just here in Australia that Stinger drivers give each other a wave.
Just got this car and love it. First actually brand new car I bought in my life and I’m very pleased
These look a lot nicer in person, one of the cars that no matter how high quality the rendering is, they will always look better in person. To me, it really resembled an Audi, specifically the A7. You see one coming in the distance and you will definitely think it is an Audi. They sit quite low as well, quite hunched and wide. I think a lot of "non car" people will be shocked if they see the previous models with the KIA badge on such a car with presence. Gives it a somewhat "sleeper" status. Obviously more regular joe car people will know this vehicle definitely has the grunt and performance similar to that of an Audi / BMW
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
It doesn't look like an A7. It truly looks like an original Optima just lower and sleeker. The Genesis G80 in profile looks more like an A7 but the detailing is way different.
@@benjaminsmith2287 It has the hunch of the A7. In person from a far, it is easy to mistake it for an Audi. The front end maybe it does look like an Optima, but shape wise this car is closer to the A7
@@smithjohn2416 I can agree with both of y’all 🤝
It was designed by a guy from Audi, and engineered by a guy from BMW (M Sport division), so no surprise about the looks comparison. We bought a 2022 GT2 and it's AWESOME! It feels like a BMW (We also own a 2021 BMW M550i). It's sad most people are scared off by the Kia badge...we'll just own one of the last models sold. 😎
That is true, this vehicle gets so much attention it’s insane. Every gas station or restaurant I walk in to, someone comments on it. I JB4 tuned mine with some simple bolt ons and HKS racing plugs to support , she pulls like a champ! Stock feels really conservative and she has a lot of hidden potential 🐝💨💨
I agree. A JB4 is a must have, it will throw you back and make your passengers say.... Damn 😂😂
@@rickydominic5616 💯💯💯💯
If I could afford this car, I would definitely buy. Beautiful car for sure!
Hey! That car is the whole reason I subscribed to your channel. I didn't think it was 100% on the decision to terminate Stinger production yet. I know it was close though. Unless something has changed.
Still love that car. Also like your LC more. No contest.
Hey thanks and I really appreciate all the support you've showed me over the years. Yea I'm def sad to see it go such a cool car with a ton of potential
Man, Kia been killing it the last few years with their aesthetic appeal. I agree they did a great job with the new logo. Even though it's not your channel's cup of tea, I've really been digging the look of the Telluride. Just wish it was a little more in my cheap ass price range, lol.
Thanks man for the video. The Stinger is quite the car. Hope Kia changes their mind about killing it.
Telluride is a masterpiece loved that thing and New Carnival is also impressive Kia Hyundai are doing some great stuff
After pickin' up a new Stinger recently my wife has her eye on the Telluride. She's talkin' of trading in her Sorento for one.
@@SilentKnight43 Oh man, that would be a sweet upgrade from the Sorento. Hopefully she decides to go for it. Would make for a great looking pair of cars.
For a car that "doesn't sell well" they're everywhere in Virginia. Kia is foolish to think this could take many sells from the Charger or Euro compact sedans. It takes time crack that shrinking segment.
Bottom Line: I chose the Stinger over the G70 because of the cargo space
I bought the Stinger here in Oz because it looks far better and is about $20K cheaper here. Cosmetic differences, almost a hatchback, longer warranty and so much cheaper. Not a difficult decision in the end.
@@belvederedog2563 some places use them as police fleet. It sucks, Kia is closing their Korean factory... I hope it doesn't affect you guys
Yea wasn't going to out sell Charger but whatever still a cool car and the most amount of trunk space possible without paying 80k for a regular A7
@@timw2083 Hi Tim, they do in Western Australia, Queensland and the Northern Territory here in Oz. Not sure why they don't use them in other states as they use BMW 5 series. The ones that do use them apparently love them.
VA native myself & I Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
Enjoyed watching this review, especially since I subcribed way back 3 years ago, when you did videos on your own black Stinger GT, I still own my 2018 Stinger GT, here in Australia. 🇦🇺
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
I would’ve loved to see a 2nd generation of this car.
Yea this car had a ton of potential
Excellent review. I keep saying it, when all things considered, performance, driving experience, standard equipment, price and warranty, there is nothing close to this dream machine. I am biased, I love mine.
Yea it's an epic package I love the practicality of it and of course the speed best TT V6 in the game. Enjoy my friend!
@@MeynMotorGroup It is stupidly fast. I got fined for going over the speed limit here in Oz and did not know how fast it was going.
@@belvederedog2563 Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
@@belvederedog2563 Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
@@impropernovice2149 The G70 is also a brilliant car. If I didn't have the Stinger, I would have seriously thought about the G70. Affectively the same car but cosmetically different. Hope you get yours soon. Got mine washed yesterday and the chap spent 10 minutes talking about it before starting on it. People love looking at them and talking about them.
I cross shopped the Stinger GT1 with a Civic Type R. 2019 with about 20k miles, they are nearly equal in price. The Stinger is better in almost every way as a fun and comfortable daily driver. The only significant things the Type R has over the Stinger is the handling and the 6 speed manual. Aside from that, you get so much more value from the Stinger, it's insane. Not to mention the badass 100k mile power train warranty. The Stinger is such an insane used car value proposition, and no one is talking about it, it's actually crazy.
just fyi.., the hyundai/kia 100k warranty is specifically only for the original owner, unless CPO. Used car buyers default to the 5yr/60k mile warranty
The Stinger is so legit! It's a shame it's getting discontinued. Thinking about picking up a 2019 GT AWD. Great video sir! 💯
If the stinger line does die, I’d wager its due less from lack of sales and more from poor Kia dealership experiences
Kia's after-market dealer service has always been poor. We've owned 6 Kia models over the years and service at two separate local dealers has, basically sucked. It's been bad to the point it nearly dissuaded me from recently buying a Stinger. I did anyways, simply because I love the car. But Kia needs to step up their service game.
Great review. I really appreciate how he doesn't sound like everyone else with the annoying way they talk . Like they're all Jeremy Clarkson
you confirmed it. I'm getting one, but used. it will be one of must haves in my garage along with the Elantra N. I want the LC 500 you got brother. I rely on your reviews the most and appreciated u. Let me buy you a beer if you ever come out to cali.
Great review as always. Picking up my 2022 Black/Black GT2 tomorrow. Can't wait..
Keep up the good work man. You’ll be at 100k in no time
Humbled by that! Thank you my friend
i've ordered this, it will be my first car at age 28 as i've been riding motorcycles so far.
Gonna take a few months until i get my hands on this beauty but man i am hyped.
Test rode it once when i first started looking for cars and i never wanted to test any other cars after this one.
I knew this is it
Got mine last year and so glad! Not even top spec but great road trip car! Love not seeing me everywhere!
I have a 2021 Stinger GT1 RWD in Ceramic Silver with red interior. Can confirm iris an attention magnet. I think this will eventually be a cult classic like the Supra.
This will be a hot car in the used market. Nobody is buying it because the price is close to performance luxury cars. But this car used will depreciate and people will buy it and love it
Fully loaded gt2 and base model m340i is close but fully loaded vs fully loaded its a 20k difference
@@jrslugwell that’s a pretty wide difference but I can imagine most people leasing these cars and would pay more for the brand
The stinger is a great car , most people hate on this car only because its a kia , but then fail to realize it was designed and engineered by the germans , and this car doesn’t sell as well because people are such brand snobs they rather drive a a base 3 series that has no where near the performance or features because of how the badge makes you look
The stinger gets so much attention tho id say its better than the badge tbh
When you consider what the stinger competes against its priced well enough to capture some of the market who want 4 doors and awd and the performance.
And evidence proves that the stinger is actually pretty well built and basically bulletproof with components plus it has a long warranty to cover your back.
That is true most are concerned with a badge more than anything so this does get a lot of unnecessary hate
I did my part... I bought a new GT1 two weeks ago. What a fantastic car. I agree the handling can be a little sloppy, but the detonator under your right foot is so addictive lmao. A manual is the only thing missing.
Massive congrats David! Great job getting the GT1 it is def the value in the lineup. Enjoy my friend
Great review. Absolutely love these cars. I drive a Hyundai Genesis 5.0 RSpec and I LOVE my car but I lust after a Stinger!!
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
I got the 2022 Ascot Green GT Elite w/ Suede Fully Loaded. It's an absolute dream and a pleasure to drive that car, the interior quality is relative to that of high end Mercedes and audis with Alcantara leather places everywhere 😇
I had a 18 GT2, now I’m thinking about the 2022
Great review, thank you
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
Oh and good review. This car is so underappreciated
Great review! Man! I’m really contemplating if I should pull the trigger on this or wait a bit more, if the market will drop for these prices. Love this vehicle.
Thank you my friend! If you can get a good lease deal or incentives like $5k off msrp I think it might be worth looking into. Also check out the G70 and incentives on that as well
Another dynamite review Kevin, Kia has some good stuff going on, I have not seen one live but they look great. Sounds like a great car to buy second hand or lease.
Really appreciate that my friend and yea you're right great car to take advantage of on a lease or with a ton of incentives
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
Great review esp. relative to your previous Stinger ownership and review of other vehicles in between! I still have my 2019 GTS-DAWD and plan to keep it longer than had planned to. It has the "punchy" acceleration feel compared to my '13 Boxster S (enjoyed your review of that too). Stinger in Federation Orange is quite unique imo. Keep those reviews coming!
Good review n Good picture bro. Good job👍👍
Thanks!
Some information on the Stinger from South Korea from someone in the Kia Sohari No one plant in South Korea they said that top down Management have not said anything of the Stinger been discontinued and the rumors started in the West.
Just bought the GT2 AWD. Going to do a 1,000 mile review which should happen quick as I drive 160 miles/day to work. In the snow belt.
The Stinger might not sell as well as they would like it in North America, but in Korea it's doing great! There are two problems for markets outside Korea: a lack of marketing for this particular model in the Kia line-up, and stupid badge snobs who still think they're living in 1990.
Kia will still make a 2023 model year for this car, fortunately.
Great upload I actually missed this because youtube didnt give me the noti but insta clutched it up
Yea I had insta problems so I couldn't update there either. I'm actually still having issues with Insta It won't let me post properly
Great review Kevin as always, even though I am a Lexus guy, I hate to see the Stinger leaving the market.. I think a lot of people like this car, and I am one of them, Kia did an amazing job with this car as far as styling and driving dynamics, but they missed on the pricing and marketing aspects.
Agreed my friend I know how you feel, def sad to see it go one of the coolest new cars on the market
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
Glad I got my exact one your reviewing with exception mine has AWD... Loving it for SURE!
Massive congrats my friend!
Great review
You make a lot of sense and very easy to listen to.
Well done
Ps I just ordered one
Congrats my friend!
I wanted this for my daily driver but couldn’t justify 55K for my daily and already owning a 2021 BMW M5 Competition for the weekend and so one. I bought a 2020 Maxima platinum Certified with 3K miles before Chip shortage for 30K which is my daily driver. Again, wish I could get the 2022 GT2 for 10K less at 45K. Great Review!!!!
I love my Hichroma Red 2021 Kia Stinger GT. Love how people pull up next to me and compliment me on the car. You know it’s a beautiful car when even an old lady tells me how beautiful the car looks 🤣
Off next Tuesday to Colorado from Reno...Packing heavy with all that room! and 37 MPGs on the hwy. 2.0 rwd turbo! thx
Another great video. Very detailed and on point. Happy New Year "In A Few Days" lol.
Thank you my friend and I hope you have a blessed New Years as well
The rumors for it being cut off has happened every year... like the same exact rumor 2-3 years in a row... why would Kia do a refreshment with an new motor and kill it? Makes no sense right? Its like their tactic of BMW with the LCI concept. This is probably the LAST year of the current gen design, introducing a new motor on the base model and styling upgrades. It could very well be a tactic to "preview" or "tease" a second gen.
Great review; too bad they are going to stop producing it -- great form factor and the hatch gives it a lot of utility.
Agrees, loved the Hatchback design offered a ton of space and looked amazing in person
Great review as always! I was hoping to hear your thoughts on any improvements since owning your Stinger. Oh and come on, literally all of those other "euro" cars are and feel faster to 60 and in general (M340i, S4, S5). The Stinger is no slouch though.
Thanks! Yea Improvements weren't crazy but it's cool though. The Euro cars especially the latest ones def have low 0-60 times but what I was trying to explain was those cars have such a rigid chassis, you don't feel the speed nor the feeling that you're getting pushed back into the seat, too solid for those weight transfer feels.
Stinger has a sloppy chassis but the benefit of that is you feel the speed and you feel the braking all the G forces are felt but that's not good for handling so gotta pick and choose what you want
Gotcha! Thanks Kevin. Oh and your comparison drive a few years back between your Stinger and that dude's S4 was one of the reasons I bought an S4. Then I bought an S5...then an RS5 and now waiting on a 2022 RS5 Sportback lol.
@@chrisburry8147 S5 is maybe a tenth or 2 of a second faster, doesn't have as good of a warranty, has a smaller back seat and is more expensive. Only reason anyone would buy the s5 over the stinger is the need for a status car. Period.
is this year a must or previous years will do? i'm in no rush and want the best performance and it seems 2022 has a big gap in performance vs prior year models.
Moving forward, they may not sell it here in the States, but they will in Europe and Asia. Beautiful lines on that car to be sure.
Not for sure..in Europe, in Poland Kia stops new orders. You can order new
Stinger only till the end of June. I,m very happy that I ordered mine.
Great Video Review!!
I have a 22' KIA Stinger GT2 Scorpion Edition 🦂 with Ceramic Silver Paint. It's JB4 Tuned. Injen Cold Air Intake. The Lit Kit Velossa Tech Air Duct System(Really Cool)HKS Performance Spark Plugs, Ark grip catback exhaust system and the Ark Downpipes(Crazy)Dragy App and system.(Cool)
I miss my Stinger everyday but the reason I won't return is the gas prices and the car prices.
Oh wow you sold it? Did you buy a K5?
@@MeynMotorGroup no lmfao I have a Honda Clarity for the time being. Car is a total shitbox but it's cheap to run it so that was the plan. HUGE downgrade from a Stinger. Kick myself about it at least a few times a week. But I picked up a job that's farther away from my house. And with the Stinger being like 19MPG and needing 93, my wallet told me I should probably get out of this thing while the used car market is so high. My buyout was $27K and change, and I managed to sell it for $33K.
Idk what I'd be paying in gas now. I sold my baby back in March. And back then, working both jobs, I was spending like $260-300 a month just on gas for the thing. No way was that making sense to me. Not on top of my already high monthly payment
You did great good time to sell car prices and fuel costs are just nuts right now so better to just save for a bit and buy later maybe a dedicated sports car. I just told another gentleman to get a Miata it's fun and relatively cheap to own
@@devongee1776 Cheap car agree but that Honda u have will outlast this Stinger million times when Stinger will fall apart after 5 years!
@@cordinate81 fuck that. I'm not a Scotty Kilmer. I want my car to be able to do MORE than just turn on everyday, which is basically all this Honda is good for.
I yearn for a smooth drive and a nice sound system again. Lol. That's literally all I'd need to be happy. And instead I've got what I got. Despite it being a 2018 and a top trim level and basically an EV... It's horrible vs. a Stinger. It might as well be a car from 2009
Can’t wait to see you do a CT5-V Blackwing review.
Haha 😄 it will probably be 10 years from now when it has 150k miles on it sitting at Cary Imports when I get an opportunity to drive that car
Can you help me decide? Getting a car as a daily driver. The 2020 Stinger or the 2023 CX5 turbo?
Well used cars are just over priced right now so buying new just makes sense. But you have to learn how to negotiate. Right now I know you can get close to 10% off MSRP on CX-5s before incentives. See the Leasehackr forum to see which cars can be had for the best deals and for tips on negotiating.
Ayyy
I love my 2022 Stinger GT2 RWD, shame KIA is axing it because it's an excellent car that no one is buying.
Yup exactly but please enjoy yours glad you took advantage of the final model year
@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks, the Stinger GT model has been my dream car since college so I got a good-paying job in IT and now I can afford the dream. I bought the car before dealers started going crazy because of the chip shortage. Honestly owning one still feels surreal.
That's how it's done I'm so happy for you enjoy my friend
Likewise SupaGoobyTM. Absolutely love mine.
New information week of 3rd week of Nov. 2021. Kia executive chimes in they aren't axing the Stinger just yet. He did not elaborate further.
To answer what Kia has done, they underrated the power of the Stinger. They're actually making around 400 at the crank. With some stock Stingers hitting as high as 350 at the wheel
My heart bleeds for those who want to buy a new car. Soon it's just gonna be a million flavors of SUV and they'll all look alike
So true
Love the Stinger. good power and looks.
Fantastic review!
Thank you kindly!
Rest in Peace to the Stinger, good car at the wrong time i feel like
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
@@impropernovice2149 building the underdogs fleet i see. i like that
@@sergiopereira9546 yessir 🤝, we already get a lot of compliments with the G70 & Q50, but there’s so many q50s/Infiniti’s in RVA
@@impropernovice2149 i live in Europe were we dont get Genesis yet and infiniti never sold in my country as well but i already seen a q50 in spain were they sold it and that car looked alien on this roads .I believe genesis wants to get into the european market and let me tell you when they release those cars here ,people going to fking flip cuz all we see here is mercs and bimmers and when they see bentley like cars walking in they aint going to be ready.Lexus is also stupid rare here ,i live in Portugal btw
@@sergiopereira9546 That’s dope Champ 🤝
Kevin I'm surprised you didn't mention your personal ownership experience or link to your very early videos about it that practically started your channel.
i made a 6 month ownership vid! Covered everything was like 3 years ago tho
Its amazing to see the engine in the right way...not transversely mounted..
1 year later and it’s still here
Don’t worry it’ll be out of here soon along with every other ice car
You on point just got a stinger Scorpion everything he said is true love my ride new York here got awd
Thanks for sharing Kevin keep safe bro
Not a problem my friend and you too!
I’ve read that there are two big issues with the Stinger. #1- crappy paint job. #2- oil leaks transmission seals. I’d like to but a Stinger, but worried about KIA QC. I tend to keep my cars until they wear out. LOL.
The new base engine is so much better and weirdly the G70 didn't get that engine (absurd) and they immediately cancel it...
Yea but GT1 V6 is the way to go
That’s crazy right? If you look at the U.S. annual sales the Stinger has out sold the G70 every year. One would think based on the data the G70 would get the axe. Are you going to upgrade your Stinger to the ‘22 MY? Also the articles I’ve read said the 2023 is the last model year not 2022.
This car would’ve been a legend if they made it manual transmission only.
Good comment. But aren’t manuals now obsolete with automatics that can shift quicker?
How is this car compared to Lexus?
I thought I was watching savage geese and I was tripping thinking he magically got younger😂
Haha 😄 with a little editing and a tan right but nope just me I don't put nearly enough effort into my video making as be does 😅 he's does some amazing stuff
I can’t wait to get mine. I love my accord but this is a whole other leve
My guy. Nice Review i want to rebadge my 2019 stinger with these new badges
Great looking car but the market that would buy a car like this is probably reluctant because of the badge
I think more people just need to be aware of the GT1 trim
Nice car.... but it's a Kia
Those days are long gone this isn't 2001 its 2021
@@MeynMotorGroupabsolutely kia has been killing it lately
@@Normalguy7100 true. I'm an ex kia owner. Had a Sorento sx and an optima. Both brand new Were decent cars fully loaded, but always wondered why didn't I just shell out extra for an Acura or a 4runner. I'm now exclusively Toyota/Lexus and don't regret 1 bit switching over. Even tho my Sequoia limited dosent have all the features my Sorento had, I'm 10000000% happier with the driving experience.
as a Kia owner I like the Car and I think about it to buy one but unfortunately the Car is very expensive in Germany, not only the price of the Car also the Tax every year is high and the Insurance is very expensive + gas is very expensive in Germany too. Thanks Kevin.
Yea hard to justify many cars in Germany due to the tax and insurance you mentioned. Mercedes E classes and up are probably my most favorite driving Euro cars but those are also pretty expensive
@@MeynMotorGroup yes unfortunately Kevin.
I believe the main issues with the Kia Stinger is the price, I believe the cost in the US ranges between $59,000 to $68,000. In Australia the cost is much more depending on the exchange rate. I love to buy a 2022 Stinger GT but can't afford one. Drop the price = more sales and save the car from distinction.
Price is between $36,000 to $52,000
@@MeynMotorGroup thank you for the correction, wasn't sure of US pricing. However in Australia, depending on the echange rate, the vehicle costs are higher. Currently 1 Australian dollar is sliding between 72.7 to 73.2 cents per US$1..
The Kia Stinger GT is used in many Australian states as interceptors vehicles 🚔 especially in country area where highways go forever.
Make you day a great one👍
You going to the stinger meet in Chicago?
Sad for the Stinger being axed😢.
They can make it electric with g80 ev drivetrain and keep the concept of 4door gt and hatchback alive.
It is sad to see it go
Would anyone advice against buying it after it has been discontinued? Like as far as parts and that sort of stuff. I would obviously buy it used
It's fine, they use this V6 and transmission in a bunch of vehicles. Tech is also used in pretty much all other Hyundai, Kia Genesis cars
The reason why people are not buying the Stinger is the fact that most people that are shopping for a car in that category consider the Stinger as their last option, their "Worst case scenario" option because at the end of the day it's wearing a KIA badge. People don't forget what KIA as a brand was back in the days. They find it hard to spend all that money on a KIA when for just a little bit more they can get a known luxury brand
Well they also need to stop neglecting the GT1 trim that undercuts the comp by 10-15k but whatever this doesn't handle nearly as well as the competition and the ride doesn't benefit from the softness so yea I would take my business to the German or Japanese Rivals but this is a cool car and worth considering with discounts I won't deny that
Kia doesn't advertise it much either. I still get people asking me, what type of car is it
Twin turbo with modified exhaust with some tuning might be why it pulls like that
I would get this Scorpion Edition if my wife didn't say no to it. Lol.
Haha yea I hear ya
Don’t let your wife tell you what to do be in control your the man
@@John-it2db Yea, I missed out getting the Chevy SS, and man these are maintaining high resale value.
I’m in between a used Kia stinger and a 2010+ Lexus ISF I watch a lot of your content and would be interested in your feedback between these 2
The IS F feels a lot better and has more character but you may want to upgrade to RC F GSF or IS 500 since they are newer and another step up from the IS F. But IS F is legit
@@MeynMotorGroup thanks man ! , I want an isf for that rarity aspect and also because it’s lighter than all the other F’s something I’ll consider though , maybe I have to test drive a GSF
The other F cars actually don’t feel insanely different from the IS F which is crazy since the IS F came out in 08. They mainly come with better/newer tech and if you care the new F cars will be safer in a crash test.
Such as shame we are losing this fabulous car, the only thing I could pick is the front could be a little more aggressive looking but it's subjective. Being from the old school I always like the big power trains and RWD and KIAhave absolutely nailed the interior. Again love the sideways look for those nasty boys with flashing lights before booting it. The suspension is tuned for Australian roads and they have done a great job you can really hit those winding roads hard or it's really compliant on long drives. Great look at this fantastic tourer really enjoyed your take on it. If I was in the market for this type of vehicle I'd buy it, damn hard to go past the LC though! Cheers Brenton 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Have they stopped producing this as a police car as well in Australia? This was def the coolest cop car for sure
But.... The question I ask is,,, Have they fixed the issue with the Rattling Sunroof?.... I owned the 2018 stinger Gt & had all sorts of problems with the sunroof!. In the end got a refund
Probably not to be honest
Any way to disable the adaptive cruise control as I prefer just good old regular cruise. Thanks!
Still waiting on your response, thank you
I feel like I'm being nitpicky, but I test drove an Stinger and just thought it was too tight on the inside for me. I wish they made this the size of the Arteon so that you could fit a family. Either way, I wish more people bought this and Kia had time to continue working on this.
Yea it's not a wide car
I want to get one but I'm not sure about the dealership experience and I feel like it's rather boat like but I shall see what the next Gen type R will look like before I get a Stinger
Can’t wait to buy mine, pops has the G70 3.3T & I need the stinger GT 😎
Nothing about this car is boaty
@@jrslugwell they just need to test drive it 🤝
It's pretty boaty feels all over the place at the limit but I guess most won't drive it like that so doesn't matter
@@MeynMotorGroup yeah your not wrong. I drove the car at its limit and it didn't like it
nope...not the final year! they said they're fine with the sales and it'll be around awhile longer.
How much are they?
So weird that their excuse for axing the stinger is that it doesn't sell yet you cand find a 2022 gt2 within 100 miles of your location that hasn't been grossly marked up in price unless it's white, then you might find 2. Lol. Especially the awd model. I've been shopping for one. Not trying to aquire one that every salesman/service guy has beat on fresh from a cold start. It's very annoying that you have to sacrifice so much just to get a color you actually want. This could have been the GTR of kia. Same platform for years while gradually upping the HP. GET IT TOGETHER KIA.lol
I love it!!
I bought a Red one just like the one your driving.
IMO It comes down to cost and branding, they are taking r&d dollars equivalent to an m4 or m5 and putting it in a practical budget brand, when you have genesis, the stinger will stay alive through the g70 with that they can better justify the costs of development through vehicle pricing...I predict the stringer will thrive on the used market though
Trust me they didn't use THAT many r&d dollars they slapped this thing together its no where near on the same level of driving dynamics as the Euro cars just has a great motor and lots of practicality
I love this car. I would love to own one...