Just to correct the timeline a bit: Gulfstar did make dodgy boats before 1975, but Vince Lazzara went on a "high quality" bender after that, rapidly improving his designs, construction, and materials. All the boats after 1976 used lead for ballast, real teak for furniture, better hardware, and Hood Stoway masts were often standard equipment. By 1977, when their flagship Gulfstar 50s were first being produced, they had seriously improved their lineup. By the early 1980's, Gulfstar was probably one of the highest quality mass-produced boats that a sailor could buy and their Gulfstaar 60s were magnificent. Boats built from 1978 to 1985 can still be great cruisers if previous owners took care of them. One major problem for Gulfstars built after 1979 - bottom blisters due to the oil embargo and changing resins. Luckily, most Gulfstars have already had barrier coats to remedy the problem but if you are looking at buying one, pay extra attention to the blister problem.
@@twrayl2002 Terry, I'm not sure if you mean the deck hatches are leaking around the seals (or Lexan) or are you talking about the cockpit hatches? Nearly all boats periodically (every decade or so) require the deck hardware/hatches/portlights/etc to be removed, the old sealant scrapped off, and re-sealed with Boat Life or Butyl tape. It is a big job, but not usually difficult. Perhaps that is what you need?
The quality of build would be there - good bones - but so much depends on the care and upgrading given by previous owners that it would have to be a case-by-case basis as to whether the boat is worth buying. As with any boat of that vintage, examine carefully for soft decks (rotted balsa core). I always liked the Gulfstar Sailmaster 39 which was made between 1981 and 1984 (57 boat production run). It is a more modern design and highly sought after and I think you would find it a better choice. @@Whit-mh9nt
I have an 81 Gulfstar Sailmaster 39. I live aboard in Australia. Yes she crossed the Pacific. She is a surprising fast and capable yacht. Balsa cored deck. I love my boat and the livability of this old girl. I have done many upgrades including rewiring for 240 volt electrical shore power. I single hand most of the time and she is such a beautiful well balanced boat to sail.
Your comment is good to see. I was looking at a 39 Sailmaster and it seemed like a sturdy cruising boat that would cruise in all but the worst places in the world.
In the early 80's I was privileged to live in a house in Morehead City that was waterfront. It was on a creek off the ICW, but there was plenty of water for boats of all sizes. My front yard had a dozen boat slips, all of them sailboats. I was active duty Navy stationed at Cherry Point MCAS 20 miles away. Just as a courtesy, I kept track of anyone around , or working around "my boats", During the week I would keep an eye on everything. When a boat looked low in the water, I would pump the bilge (it's amazing how many didn't have automatic bilge pumps). During storms, I was out there checking lines and bilges. I took care of the boats. When the owners would come for the weekend, I would tell them of any problems. They loved my attention. When they would leave they would drop off all kinds of food, from produce to meats! The house was never locked, so if I was not home they would leave it on my kitchen table or put it in the fridge or freezer. One of those sailboats that I had to manually bail out constantly was a Gulfstar. It was a beautiful boat, but it leaked! Best place I ever lived in my 20 years in the Navy!
John Kretschmer is his list of Top 10 Great Used Boats to Sail Around the World, the Gulfstar 50 MK II is the biggest boat on that list. The MK II was built 1975-1980. Offered in a center cockpit sloop as well as a ketch. Offered in a 2 and 3 cabin layout. These boats are solid, blue-water crusers. The only 2 issues to be aware of is 1) Blisters, if the hull did get and maintain a good barrier coat. Sadly this was common on most sailboats after 1976 due to the resins of that time. 2) The standard engine was a Perkins 7-154 60 horse. As Perkins rated their horse power before the transmission this resulted in the Gulfstar being underpowered. An option at the time was an 85 horse Perkins, much better. The Gulfstar 50 MK II was an outstanding boat at its time and still a great choice for World passage. Be happy, be safe
Growing up on a houseboat I knew the Lazzara family. I was born in Miami and then moved to Cape Coral Florida, I remember the name very well thank you for the information that's really cool. May the wind be at your back and the sun in your face my friend you guys stay safe
I owned a 41 GulfStar what a sweet boat Heavy a beast of a boat 13.4 knots fastest I ever had her she could take anything you threw at her. Lived on her for 14 years and miss her. GulfStar boats are not junk some are not the 41 a true sailboat.
I got a 1977 Gulfstar 37 several months ago and I am beginning a refit as a complete novice to sailing. From what I have seen on other boats from other manufacturers compared to mine the gulfstar is far more solid feeling. All though I think the interior was finished with cheap materials, such as veneered plywood decking for the floor and particle board cabinetry tops, which I am ripping out completely and re doing the entire cabin layout. The hull and deck are very solid. Having received some damage to the deck/hull joint from being bashed against a dock along the starboard side during hurricane IRMA the damage is localized to just the overhang portion of the deck. I have seen far more severe damage to boats in far less intense storms. There are more than just a handful of pre 1980 still afloat and in outstanding condition, at least in my area. It seems as though this video was made with far less enthusiasm as many of the other video you have made, however I do continue to appreciate the amount of great content and information you put into all of the videos. Keep up the great work.
Currently looking for a cruiser (newbie here, sailed as a kid on a 30ft cutter) any recommendations Been looking at Bayfield, nonsuch, and a 1985 gs45 caught the eye for 74,500 36fts, 100k Canadian range
My dad worked for the lazzaras for years at Gulfstar, and briefly viking (didn't everyone?). They were good men who cared about the things they built, you can trust me on that one. I got to see their 60 and 80 (sloop!) too, beautiful vessels even in the 1980s.
Love your videos! As a kid in mid 70s we had a 1973 43 Gulfstar trawler . T/160 Perkins turbos. Excellent rough water boat. 15knot cruise. Gel coat never shined, our boat had teak interior. Hull was OK. Decks had moisture. We had it for 5 years . 1975-1980
I just looked at several boats , a morgan or 2 , a gulfstar and an allied all from the 70s , the gulfstar was the oldest and the exterior held up better than the others
You need to review the later boats to judge the company......in the later 80s they made a 60 and 80 along with the 54 and 63 sail cruiser series unique twin engine sailboats with aft fishing style cockpits along with the European styled motor yacht series which was sold to Viking yachts the quality was very high with incredible molded wood work
Great video. I have an 85 gulfstar 45 and you are right. What a tank. Solid and I trust her with my life. I wouldn’t touch one made before 1980 though. You’ve done your homework
I have a friend with a a 1978 47 and it's a great boat and sails very well. Looks, well that is in the eye of the beholder. Pretty is as pretty does. LOL.
Hi can youj explain why you would have liked a stern anchor on lady k? thank you! How would you use a stern anchor and why is it important to have a stern anchor storage?
We have a 1973 43ft Trawler…still own it since 1994 traveled many miles with her now we use her mainly as a live a board on a buoy in the summer… Hull is bullet proof the deck does have soft spots since we bought her… What would it cost for another newer boat too darn much and probably wouldn’t have the classic looks… Ours never had blisters… Cielo e Mar survived one hurricane in the Bahamas one waterspout direct hit in Florida a lightning strike (spike) on the Chesapeake many summer storms on Long Island sound…why would we change our survival luck… I upgraded everything cosmetic ports window generator, heater etc when I retired… If I can get the leak fixed in the hydraulic line ugh we will be in Provincetown for the some of the summer if not still our summer home Manhasset bay Long Island…
A suggestion for a future one of these is Caribbean Sailing Yachts (CSY). My family and I toured the factory in florida in '77, can't say whether we would have bought one but I am kicking myself now for not pushing to get one.
I am finding very little info on my Irwin 45cc ketch project. I can't find the same model anywhere online, and it seems like several things are very different that the other similar size models. Like the lask of a compression post under the mizzen, which is an area prone to rot due to the unsealed cable holes thru the deck. It was the failure of this area that led to me getting the boat at a cheap price, as instead of boom truck services, i built a simple truss to jack up the mizzen for full repairs under, Anyway, Great Video as usual!! Please Let anyone with another I-45cc know to look me up!!!
Love these videos about the sailboat brands. You learn a lot from them. As a recommendation for a future video S2 would be an interesting brand to cover. They were a powerboat manufacturer that switched to sailboats and they make some unique center cockpit designs with unusual design choices (like fabric ceilings).
When are you getting back into the water ? Any long trips planned? Love your informative videos. As I’m am looking for my first boat, your vids give me lots of info. Thank you.
I researched them before going to look at a 1980 50 ft. If it weren't for a bilge full of oil and the owner acting really sketchy about getting a survey done, I would of made an offer on that yacht.
Going to look at a 1974 41-foot. Am I wasting my time? It seems as though it was pretty well-built but what I'm hearing from you I am concerned now. When did they start turning their sailboats around was it prior to 74?
We acquired a '73 Gulfstar 41 center cockpit over the summer and have been quite happy with it. We just completed a three day race (cruiser class) on it prepared for the worst/hoping for the best and had no problems whatsoever even heavy blow, even got 2nd place cruiser class one day. We're basically cannibalizing our old Morgan 41 out island to update this Gulfstar which has definitely held up better than the 70's era Morgan. Also just met a new guy on our pier with a '74 GS. He and his lady are prepping to head out to the Bahamas on it so they seem pretty happy with it as well. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have and curious to hear if you end up buying the GS you went to see. Good luck
I have a 1977 gulfstar custom 40 ted hood. Still floating, and i think its the only one i europe. Theres also a canadian youtube channel called «practical dreams» who own the same boat.
I just crewed a delivery in Central America on a G36 center cockpit. I 192% agree with you. The thing got tossed around in 4 foot swells like a rag doll. Points for sh*t. Planes terribly, refuses to sit down in the water Does maybe 4.5 knots on a beam reach. So much interior room wasted w the layout, especially the engine room. Ventilation for sh*t. A terrible transoms design for a sailboat. And the steering linkage, omg. The couple who own it, love it for the fishing aspect. They trialed no other sailboats before buying that one, and are completely closed-minded about anything else. Those are the ppl who buy these things, ppl who have never been on other sailboats. It's not a monohull sailing vessel -- it's a trawlerhull. Probably great for the ICW. Absolutely horrible for any open water. I had more stability on a 40' catamaran in 12' whitecaps than the G36 had in 4' swells. This is the one boat that I'll never sail on again. I'd trust a J22 or a M25 in open water before I took out a Gulfstar again.
What TH-cam Sailing channel opines and reviews boats but hasn’t sailed full time or lived aboard for years now? Nor has that contributor sailed the vast majority of boats he reviews. To top it all off, there are those who would opine that any content created based on stories and culled pieces of trivia should come with a disclaimer that “This Channel is for entertainment purposes and does not represent factual first hand experiences of the author”
In the early 70's they supposedly put balsa cored hulls outside in the rain. I had an '84 Lancer..the rep told me years later that they would put iron on concrete in the enclosed keel until the boat floated on its lines. I never had an issue.. for 20 years.. but was always nervous. No secrets in boat building. You get what you pay for
I owned a Lancer 28' 1981 since 2016 in north, north and a bit more north of america in fresh water, and I'm impress by the solidity of this sailboat. The deck is balsa cored and sound. The hull is hand laid fiberglass and bulkhead nicely tab to the hull. I can beach her without worried of getting stuck with my encapsulated lead keel. Read it was a cheap sailboat but never had any issues with her. I'm still fixing bad repairs done in the past and upgrading her but never stopped me from sailing. She's a greater dancer, I'll never win a race with her but that's not my goal ;O). For my retired plan, I look for a Gulfstar 41 Cheer's from Canada
@@pierrelapointe8511 Is the 28 the boat with the long shallow keel and a big well in the cabin instead of a flat cabin sole? I had 2 friends with those boats I think.
@@Johnsouthshore That's the one with the well in the cabin, non compression post and a dinning table on starboard. The long shallow keel provide safe beaching. I think I'm the only one on the réservoir that can do that :O)
I'd humbly suggest abandoning the mindset that there's any such thing as a perfect boat. Every boat is a compromise. The trick is figuring out what features or characteristics you personally feel like you need, and what you can trade to get them.
I know a couple who looked at a gulfstar for 50k. Then it was reduced to 40k. Then off the market. Months later, the same boat pops up for under 20k. They bought it. Never trialed any different boat. Never put that extra 30..35k (form original selling pric3) back into the boat. Just took the boat out and tried to make it do all sorts of things that it wasn't designed to do. And, surprisingly, they simply believe that "boats" have a hard time with XYZ. Not their boat. But boats in general just can't do XYZ. It boggles my mind what people will commit to, and dig in their heels against, sight-unseen.
@@bdtrap thank you! Your right!! If you look at one of the other replies somebody said that there is no simple answer basically I have to try different boats and see what fits for my particular style...
I totally disagree with your disparaging remarks about gulfstar I skippered a gulfstar 60 sailboat from the Caribbean to New England for 4 years. You have no idea what you're talkin about!!
If at all floating even from 80-90’s these Gulfstars, at the best, could serve as a modest marina queen. As sailboats they were still junk with the worse hardware one can think of. A real cruising sailboat need at least 20-30 years of outstanding pedigree with the same reputable builder to be called a sailboat to consider. Important for dreamers that hope to have a world old cruiser for $30K just to realize few months later their dream is way further out and their bank account is (at least) $50K down… Just a reality check for all. Regardless, I do like watching these quick episodes between my offshore voyages, and refitting projects.
Looking to get into a cruiser (will be coming down the east coast, Caribbean etc..) looking at a nonsuch 36ft but not committed. Any recommendations?? 100k range
The good, the bad, and the ugly. No backing plates was downright messed up, and the lack of seals on the end of the sandwich.... He was lucky not to be sued into oblivion before he got things right.
@@markbuskens6070 dude, I remember hearing people talking about these on the west coast back in the 80's. Proven or not, the stories of their shoddy construction were known.
@@markbuskens6070 no, rewatch it. Sometime in the 80's, dude got serious and made good boats, but never could shake the bad rep (well deserved) that he got from his early ones. Think of it like computers, ASRock, well known for shoddy construction, fried my 4770K seven years ago, and they kept sending obvious line QA repaired boards that had equally shoddy VRM issues, while lying constantly saying they weren't QA pulled/hand-repaired boards, even when presented with photographs (solder blobs on the board and even on the ferrite of the VRM inductors, and failure to deflux after assembly, seriously crookedly mounted parts that are normally machine placed) and returned boards, a nightmare that cost me almost a thousand dollars and lasted a full year because they sold me a board that claimed it could do things it couldn't (like handle a non-overclocked 4770K). Over the next few years, they started getting good reviews, although the reviewers all noted flimsy parts that felt like they could break off, but still fairly reliable in operation. Now (today) they are back at the same shoddy construction, false advertising, and lies they had before. Companies like that keep their bad reputation, hell, I'll never buy their shoddy crap ever again.
I own one and I live on her. For $6000??? What layout - galley on the port or starboard side? I would buy her! I paid $35,000 for mine, and most of the boat is original and either in great or acceptable shape.
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Just to correct the timeline a bit: Gulfstar did make dodgy boats before 1975, but Vince Lazzara went on a "high quality" bender after that, rapidly improving his designs, construction, and materials. All the boats after 1976 used lead for ballast, real teak for furniture, better hardware, and Hood Stoway masts were often standard equipment. By 1977, when their flagship Gulfstar 50s were first being produced, they had seriously improved their lineup. By the early 1980's, Gulfstar was probably one of the highest quality mass-produced boats that a sailor could buy and their Gulfstaar 60s were magnificent. Boats built from 1978 to 1985 can still be great cruisers if previous owners took care of them. One major problem for Gulfstars built after 1979 - bottom blisters due to the oil embargo and changing resins. Luckily, most Gulfstars have already had barrier coats to remedy the problem but if you are looking at buying one, pay extra attention to the blister problem.
I just purchased a 1976 37ft center console. Leaks around hatches. Any suggestions?
@@twrayl2002 Terry, I'm not sure if you mean the deck hatches are leaking around the seals (or Lexan) or are you talking about the cockpit hatches? Nearly all boats periodically (every decade or so) require the deck hardware/hatches/portlights/etc to be removed, the old sealant scrapped off, and re-sealed with Boat Life or Butyl tape. It is a big job, but not usually difficult. Perhaps that is what you need?
What would be your opinion regarding a 79 gulfstar 37 aft cockpit? Thanks...
The quality of build would be there - good bones - but so much depends on the care and upgrading given by previous owners that it would have to be a case-by-case basis as to whether the boat is worth buying. As with any boat of that vintage, examine carefully for soft decks (rotted balsa core). I always liked the Gulfstar Sailmaster 39 which was made between 1981 and 1984 (57 boat production run). It is a more modern design and highly sought after and I think you would find it a better choice. @@Whit-mh9nt
What are your thoughts of Gulfstar 50’ sloop, I’m looking to buy one?
I have an 81 Gulfstar Sailmaster 39. I live aboard in Australia. Yes she crossed the Pacific.
She is a surprising fast and capable yacht. Balsa cored deck. I love my boat and the livability of this old girl.
I have done many upgrades including rewiring for 240 volt electrical shore power.
I single hand most of the time and she is such a beautiful well balanced boat to sail.
Your comment is good to see. I was looking at a 39 Sailmaster and it seemed like a sturdy cruising boat that would cruise in all but the worst places in the world.
In the early 80's I was privileged to live in a house in Morehead City that was waterfront. It was on a creek off the ICW, but there was plenty of water for boats of all sizes. My front yard had a dozen boat slips, all of them sailboats. I was active duty Navy stationed at Cherry Point MCAS 20 miles away. Just as a courtesy, I kept track of anyone around , or working around "my boats", During the week I would keep an eye on everything. When a boat looked low in the water, I would pump the bilge (it's amazing how many didn't have automatic bilge pumps). During storms, I was out there checking lines and bilges. I took care of the boats. When the owners would come for the weekend, I would tell them of any problems. They loved my attention. When they would leave they would drop off all kinds of food, from produce to meats! The house was never locked, so if I was not home they would leave it on my kitchen table or put it in the fridge or freezer.
One of those sailboats that I had to manually bail out constantly was a Gulfstar. It was a beautiful boat, but it leaked!
Best place I ever lived in my 20 years in the Navy!
John Kretschmer is his list of Top 10 Great Used Boats to Sail Around the World, the Gulfstar 50 MK II is the biggest boat on that list.
The MK II was built 1975-1980. Offered in a center cockpit sloop as well as a ketch. Offered in a 2 and 3 cabin layout. These boats are solid, blue-water crusers. The only 2 issues to be aware of is 1) Blisters, if the hull did get and maintain a good barrier coat. Sadly this was common on most sailboats after 1976 due to the resins of that time. 2) The standard engine was a Perkins 7-154 60 horse. As Perkins rated their horse power before the transmission this resulted in the Gulfstar being underpowered. An option at the time was an 85 horse Perkins, much better. The Gulfstar 50 MK II was an outstanding boat at its time and still a great choice for World passage.
Be happy, be safe
Growing up on a houseboat I knew the Lazzara family. I was born in Miami and then moved to Cape Coral Florida, I remember the name very well thank you for the information that's really cool. May the wind be at your back and the sun in your face my friend you guys stay safe
My wife and I sailed from Georgetown to Cuba with Daniel. We buddy boated down to a Rolling Stones concert in Havana.
I owned a 41 GulfStar what a sweet boat Heavy a beast of a boat 13.4 knots fastest I ever had her she could take anything you threw at her. Lived on her for 14 years and miss her. GulfStar boats are not junk some are not the 41 a true sailboat.
I got a 1977 Gulfstar 37 several months ago and I am beginning a refit as a complete novice to sailing. From what I have seen on other boats from other manufacturers compared to mine the gulfstar is far more solid feeling. All though I think the interior was finished with cheap materials, such as veneered plywood decking for the floor and particle board cabinetry tops, which I am ripping out completely and re doing the entire cabin layout. The hull and deck are very solid. Having received some damage to the deck/hull joint from being bashed against a dock along the starboard side during hurricane IRMA the damage is localized to just the overhang portion of the deck. I have seen far more severe damage to boats in far less intense storms. There are more than just a handful of pre 1980 still afloat and in outstanding condition, at least in my area. It seems as though this video was made with far less enthusiasm as many of the other video you have made, however I do continue to appreciate the amount of great content and information you put into all of the videos. Keep up the great work.
I had a 1977 GS 37 for ten years, it was a fantastic boat and extremely solid. Enjoy!
I have a 1979 GS 37 that I live on fulltime. Slipping the mooring line June 5th for an 800 nautical mile trek to Philly.
Currently looking for a cruiser (newbie here, sailed as a kid on a 30ft cutter) any recommendations
Been looking at Bayfield, nonsuch, and a 1985 gs45 caught the eye for 74,500 36fts, 100k Canadian range
I’m looking at a 1974 Gulfstar so is that a pass?
My dad worked for the lazzaras for years at Gulfstar, and briefly viking (didn't everyone?). They were good men who cared about the things they built, you can trust me on that one. I got to see their 60 and 80 (sloop!) too, beautiful vessels even in the 1980s.
Lots of 1970’s GS sailboats near us still floating go figure :)
Love your videos!
As a kid in mid 70s we had a 1973 43 Gulfstar trawler . T/160 Perkins turbos.
Excellent rough water boat. 15knot cruise.
Gel coat never shined, our boat had teak interior. Hull was OK. Decks had moisture.
We had it for 5 years .
1975-1980
I just looked at several boats , a morgan or 2 , a gulfstar and an allied all from the 70s , the gulfstar was the oldest and the exterior held up better than the others
You need to review the later boats to judge the company......in the later 80s they made a 60 and 80 along with the 54 and 63 sail cruiser series unique twin engine sailboats with aft fishing style cockpits along with the European styled motor yacht series which was sold to Viking yachts the quality was very high with incredible molded wood work
Great video. I have an 85 gulfstar 45 and you are right. What a tank. Solid and I trust her with my life. I wouldn’t touch one made before 1980 though. You’ve done your homework
It sounds like your German friend did no maintenance. You're going on about a bad engine which isn't manufactured by the boat builder.
I have always loved Gulfstar Sailmaster 47's, I've heard them described as downright ugly but I think them very lovely and comfortable boats.
I have a friend with a a 1978 47 and it's a great boat and sails very well. Looks, well that is in the eye of the beholder. Pretty is as pretty does. LOL.
My dad ran a catering truck and Lazzara was one of our main stops. Cool growing up watching 50 to 80ft million dollar yachts being built in Tampa Bay.
Well, that settles it. I'm buying a MacGregor 26. Thanks.
LOL
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I'm looking at a 1979 Gulfstar 39 as much first boat. Any suggestions?
Hi can youj explain why you would have liked a stern anchor on lady k? thank you! How would you use a stern anchor and why is it important to have a stern anchor storage?
what are the best boats to buy that are used?
We have a 1973 43ft Trawler…still own it since 1994 traveled many miles with her now we use her mainly as a live a board on a buoy in the summer…
Hull is bullet proof the deck does have soft spots since we bought her…
What would it cost for another newer boat too darn much and probably wouldn’t have the classic looks…
Ours never had blisters…
Cielo e Mar survived one hurricane in the Bahamas one waterspout direct hit in Florida a lightning strike (spike) on the Chesapeake many summer storms on Long Island sound…why would we change our survival luck…
I upgraded everything cosmetic ports window generator, heater etc when I retired…
If I can get the leak fixed in the hydraulic line ugh we will be in Provincetown for the some of the summer if not still our summer home Manhasset bay Long Island…
Excellent narrative.
I love the Gulfstar 60 in the 80’s movie Midnight Crossing, beautiful boat.
Great ending very unique.
Love that you talk alot into details about the designer and builder etc. Keep it up 👍
A suggestion for a future one of these is Caribbean Sailing Yachts (CSY). My family and I toured the factory in florida in '77, can't say whether we would have bought one but I am kicking myself now for not pushing to get one.
Captain Q gave the gulfstar 50 he reviewed a good rating although it's a later one
I believe the one Captain Q did was a 1986.
@@robertadamsmetaldetecting6324 yeah I think so
@@markbuskens6070 I don't think so man , did you watch the entire video ? Tim always does his research
@@sailingmaverick2480 who are you talking about?
I am finding very little info on my Irwin 45cc ketch project. I can't find the same model anywhere online, and it seems like several things are very different that the other similar size models. Like the lask of a compression post under the mizzen, which is an area prone to rot due to the unsealed cable holes thru the deck. It was the failure of this area that led to me getting the boat at a cheap price, as instead of boom truck services, i built a simple truss to jack up the mizzen for full repairs under, Anyway, Great Video as usual!! Please Let anyone with another I-45cc know to look me up!!!
Love these videos about the sailboat brands. You learn a lot from them. As a recommendation for a future video S2 would be an interesting brand to cover. They were a powerboat manufacturer that switched to sailboats and they make some unique center cockpit designs with unusual design choices (like fabric ceilings).
When are you getting back into the water ? Any long trips planned?
Love your informative videos. As I’m am looking for my first boat, your vids give me lots of info. Thank you.
How do you feel about a1968 coulmba
A well maintain 53 foot Gulfstar is a great boat!
🤣 love the ending
I researched them before going to look at a 1980 50 ft. If it weren't for a bilge full of oil and the owner acting really sketchy about getting a survey done, I would of made an offer on that yacht.
Going to look at a 1974 41-foot. Am I wasting my time? It seems as though it was pretty well-built but what I'm hearing from you I am concerned now. When did they start turning their sailboats around was it prior to 74?
We acquired a '73 Gulfstar 41 center cockpit over the summer and have been quite happy with it. We just completed a three day race (cruiser class) on it prepared for the worst/hoping for the best and had no problems whatsoever even heavy blow, even got 2nd place cruiser class one day. We're basically cannibalizing our old Morgan 41 out island to update this Gulfstar which has definitely held up better than the 70's era Morgan. Also just met a new guy on our pier with a '74 GS. He and his lady are prepping to head out to the Bahamas on it so they seem pretty happy with it as well. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have and curious to hear if you end up buying the GS you went to see. Good luck
LMAO. No longer floating
What about the Gulf Star 44?
what about bayliner buccaneer 280 the football???
Back in the 70's, that would be Datson....No....
Hey @ 0:30 that’s our boat ! That’s so crazy where did you find that picture ?
They only made 27 53' Motor sailers. I figure it really doesn't matter if they're crap or not! 🤣
I have a 1977 gulfstar custom 40 ted hood. Still floating, and i think its the only one i europe. Theres also a canadian youtube channel called «practical dreams» who own the same boat.
What about insurance on these older boats
Progressive.
What about the 37?
No longer afloat, that makes it easy
The GulfBarge was all about smuggling.
I knew a couple with a gulfstar 37 center cockpit...what a peice of junk.
I just crewed a delivery in Central America on a G36 center cockpit. I 192% agree with you. The thing got tossed around in 4 foot swells like a rag doll. Points for sh*t. Planes terribly, refuses to sit down in the water
Does maybe 4.5 knots on a beam reach. So much interior room wasted w the layout, especially the engine room. Ventilation for sh*t. A terrible transoms design for a sailboat. And the steering linkage, omg. The couple who own it, love it for the fishing aspect. They trialed no other sailboats before buying that one, and are completely closed-minded about anything else. Those are the ppl who buy these things, ppl who have never been on other sailboats. It's not a monohull sailing vessel -- it's a trawlerhull. Probably great for the ICW. Absolutely horrible for any open water. I had more stability on a 40' catamaran in 12' whitecaps than the G36 had in 4' swells. This is the one boat that I'll never sail on again. I'd trust a J22 or a M25 in open water before I took out a Gulfstar again.
What TH-cam Sailing channel opines and reviews boats but hasn’t sailed full time or lived aboard for years now? Nor has that contributor sailed the vast majority of boats he reviews. To top it all off, there are those who would opine that any content created based on stories and culled pieces of trivia should come with a disclaimer that “This Channel is for entertainment purposes and does not represent factual first hand experiences of the author”
In the early 70's they supposedly put balsa cored hulls outside in the rain. I had an '84 Lancer..the rep told me years later that they would put iron on concrete in the enclosed keel until the boat floated on its lines. I never had an issue.. for 20 years.. but was always nervous. No secrets in boat building. You get what you pay for
I owned a Lancer 28' 1981 since 2016 in north, north and a bit more north of america in fresh water, and I'm impress by the solidity of this sailboat. The deck is balsa cored and sound. The hull is hand laid fiberglass and bulkhead nicely tab to the hull. I can beach her without worried of getting stuck with my encapsulated lead keel. Read it was a cheap sailboat but never had any issues with her. I'm still fixing bad repairs done in the past and upgrading her but never stopped me from sailing. She's a greater dancer, I'll never win a race with her but that's not my goal ;O).
For my retired plan, I look for a Gulfstar 41
Cheer's from Canada
@@pierrelapointe8511 Is the 28 the boat with the long shallow keel and a big well in the cabin instead of a flat cabin sole? I had 2 friends with those boats I think.
@@Johnsouthshore That's the one with the well in the cabin, non compression post and a dinning table on starboard. The long shallow keel provide safe beaching. I think I'm the only one on the réservoir that can do that :O)
When is Jeanneau
Just watch the Beneteau video again with your sound off.
what boat would you say would be perfect for simply going around Florida and maybe a little further? Thank you
@@paulouellette6881 great,ty! And what boat would you suggest to sail across the Atlantic?
@@gkrebs6636 Charter for a couple of years. Get a different boat each trip. You'll find your own answer.
I'd humbly suggest abandoning the mindset that there's any such thing as a perfect boat. Every boat is a compromise. The trick is figuring out what features or characteristics you personally feel like you need, and what you can trade to get them.
I know a couple who looked at a gulfstar for 50k. Then it was reduced to 40k. Then off the market. Months later, the same boat pops up for under 20k. They bought it. Never trialed any different boat. Never put that extra 30..35k (form original selling pric3) back into the boat. Just took the boat out and tried to make it do all sorts of things that it wasn't designed to do. And, surprisingly, they simply believe that "boats" have a hard time with XYZ. Not their boat. But boats in general just can't do XYZ. It boggles my mind what people will commit to, and dig in their heels against, sight-unseen.
@@bdtrap thank you! Your right!! If you look at one of the other replies somebody said that there is no simple answer basically I have to try different boats and see what fits for my particular style...
Southern Cross next ;P
CE Ryder generally would be an interesting story. I know a few folks who love their Sea Sprite 34s.
Dude I almost bought one.
video is dark but good
Interesting video
Like sailing a cholox bottle
Who built Columbus’s boats?
I totally disagree with your disparaging remarks about gulfstar I skippered a gulfstar 60 sailboat from the Caribbean to New England for 4 years.
You have no idea what you're talkin about!!
Did you watch the entire video?
Everything he just said tracks pretty closely with what I recall John Kretschmer writing in (I think it was) Sailing a Serious Ocean.
If at all floating even from 80-90’s these Gulfstars, at the best, could serve as a modest marina queen. As sailboats they were still junk with the worse hardware one can think of. A real cruising sailboat need at least 20-30 years of outstanding pedigree with the same reputable builder to be called a sailboat to consider. Important for dreamers that hope to have a world old cruiser for $30K just to realize few months later their dream is way further out and their bank account is (at least) $50K down… Just a reality check for all. Regardless, I do like watching these quick episodes between my offshore voyages, and refitting projects.
Looking to get into a cruiser (will be coming down the east coast, Caribbean etc..) looking at a nonsuch 36ft but not committed.
Any recommendations?? 100k range
The good, the bad, and the ugly. No backing plates was downright messed up, and the lack of seals on the end of the sandwich.... He was lucky not to be sued into oblivion before he got things right.
@@markbuskens6070 dude, I remember hearing people talking about these on the west coast back in the 80's. Proven or not, the stories of their shoddy construction were known.
@@markbuskens6070 no, rewatch it. Sometime in the 80's, dude got serious and made good boats, but never could shake the bad rep (well deserved) that he got from his early ones. Think of it like computers, ASRock, well known for shoddy construction, fried my 4770K seven years ago, and they kept sending obvious line QA repaired boards that had equally shoddy VRM issues, while lying constantly saying they weren't QA pulled/hand-repaired boards, even when presented with photographs (solder blobs on the board and even on the ferrite of the VRM inductors, and failure to deflux after assembly, seriously crookedly mounted parts that are normally machine placed) and returned boards, a nightmare that cost me almost a thousand dollars and lasted a full year because they sold me a board that claimed it could do things it couldn't (like handle a non-overclocked 4770K). Over the next few years, they started getting good reviews, although the reviewers all noted flimsy parts that felt like they could break off, but still fairly reliable in operation. Now (today) they are back at the same shoddy construction, false advertising, and lies they had before. Companies like that keep their bad reputation, hell, I'll never buy their shoddy crap ever again.
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hello!
what is eith a gulfstar 41 centercockpit?
where are the problems ...
I could buy one for 6000 usd
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I own one and I live on her. For $6000??? What layout - galley on the port or starboard side? I would buy her! I paid $35,000 for mine, and most of the boat is original and either in great or acceptable shape.