UPDATED POINTS in Chapter Approved here! th-cam.com/video/pmA2GDElft4/w-d-xo.html - Mainly small changes that wouldn't affect how I'd rank the units. - Probably the biggest update I'd make would be ranking Lokhust Heavy Destroyers at an 8/10 now, 60pts for Damage 3D3 shot is pretty nice! - The Doomsday Ark seems the better choice over the Doomstalker as well now, they were quite balanced previously, and the Ark dropped 20pts
Just to clarify, this was recorded prior to the announcement pf Chapter Approved, so not the best timing! I'll certainly cover any necron points changes and how I think they affect the army...
It is okay, sir. Let us just say out outrun Games workshop themeselves. Maybe you could make new video just about putting this one in perspective of Chapter approved.
Shame on you sir for not being able to see the future! I came here for clairvoyance darn it! Jokes aside you do an excellent job and I can't thank you enough for being awesome and very quick on the videos. Keep up the great work. 🙌
Necron coolness is what got me into the hobby, but decision paralysis was stopping me from picking models and a dynasty to paint, your videos have been super helpful, and I’ve started painting and planning an army
Me thinking: Auspex sure uploads a lot I wonder how he does it Opens TH-cam: Another almost hour long video in less than 3 days If you ever need to slow down feel free to Auspex!
There is one important correction to make: The actual biggest reason to add Nemesor Zandrekh is because his model appears to be the only one in the entire game that dabs ,which is lit af, fam.
I'd point out that the overlord and lord are the only units that bring with them command protocols. As it requires a character with the lord keyword, and they're the only 2 that bring that. Yes, all characters will have a CP aura, but to have access to them, you need one of those 2.
Its not the Lord keyword, its the Noble Keyword. So most of the named characters allow you to have the Command protocols from them, but for generic yes, you only have the Lord, Overlord or Catacomb Command Barge.
I dont know how he manages to put out this many videos especially how useful they are. I get the feeling, where as some people have ran out of ideas on what 40k videos to make, he hasnt got enough time to make all the videos he wants to.
Just a thought, I can't help but feel you need to change your scoring system to a 5 point scale. You marked all but one of these as 5 or greater, even when you said those models weren't great and would probably never be taken. If a 5/10 is something that will never be taken, then I can't help but wonder what a 1/10 counts as on your scale? 1-5 is much easier to assign meaning to, unless there's decent justification for having the additional dynamic range. (5 - Amazing, game winning, 4 - Incredibly strong, 3 - Good unit, average output, 2 - Below average performance, not worth the points but has unique scenarios to be good, 1 - Don't bring, too expensive, doesn't perform).
If I had to speculate, Id say Auspex is trying to score them not just somewhat relative to each other but the 40k range as a whole. A 6 out of 10 might preform somewhat better in its roll than a 5 out of 10, but somewhat better is only going to go far when you factor in the player and weight of dice. The 1-2 point drop is perfectly usable and not a huge loss if thats what you have in your collection or just prefer those models. Using the 1 to 5 might come off as much harsher and give the impression of units being less valuable than they are. That, and for the necron codex in particular, is actually just pretty solidly balanced without any particularly bad units. Everything here is playable and theirs really only a handful of standouts that are just that much better than the competition. If you look back at the guard Review for instance, That actually handed out quite a few low scores.
@@blackwolf671 there are plenty of bad units in the Necron codex - all the ranged anti tank is crap for what it costs and you have very little reliability outside the silent king menhirs.
@@hughtitchener6478 Every Army has its ups and downs, Anti Tank firepower is one of the things necrons have always had to contend with. Though I would counter with Doomstalkers and Doomsday arcs being fairly solid, particularly with some support from a Triarch Stalker or MWBD. Destroyers could probably use a point drop and their a little fragile. But even then, put extermination protocols on them and when they work, they really work.
@@blackwolf671 I agree, I'm fairly certain that he compares to all the factions and units of 40K. However, I think it should also be made a bit more clear that's what he's doing, what his criteria are and how he weighs them. Or to even have two ratings, one for 40k in general and one for internal balance, comparing to the rest of the codex. I also do think they are a bit inconsistent and that he's reluctant to hand out low scores in general. Still, it's his opinion and the reasoning and analysis for each unit is more useful than a number anyway.
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What? Lol you ever put together a video like this? 4 hours a day to put out this content is hardly work and I'm being generous with 4 hours assuming this editing takes longer.
This video was awesome and informative. Looks like I won't be winning many games with my Necrons, though. I put the effort into painting my Obelisk, so I'm sure as hell going to use it whenever I can.
I appreciate this video so much! I got into Warhammer about a month ago and I love Necrons so I have been collecting them. It is so helpful to have a video like this give a quick rundown on every unit.
I would like to mention that since convergence of dominion has the vehicle keyword, they can benefit from big guns never tire and fire into melee. They're still not great, but they aren't invalidated by a squad of guardsmen touching into them.
@@TheInsanityOfTheToilet they can also soak up mortals from smite and such. They're not terrible, they just don't do anything other than be wounds stuck in your deployment zone and a nasty surprise when the opponent actually reads the statline on the guns.
this is my favorite kind of video as a new warhammer player it really helps me get a grasp on the army and what its good at and what is good in the army
One negative Id like to add to the flayed ones is their $ cost. Right now it's $50 dollars for 5 of the newer flayed ones. A full squad of 20 is $200. Id rather bring something else.
Thank you so much for the in depth explanation for units. As an absolute newbie for me this is priceless. And love the way you explain it :). Thank you mate!
These entire army videos are absolutely invaluable 🤩. Thank you so much for taking the time for such a concise synopsis of each model. That being said, I'd love to see one for the Orks (once the new codex arrives) and in the meantime possibly a Sororitas of Tyrranid one 😃.
Another thing that can be done with Warrior blobs is to pair a novokh group with a rad-wreathed/ancients stir dynasty. Yes, you lose command protocols but the -1 toughness math wise translates ~ to +2 strength against meatlings (non-vehicles.)
I was also thinking of a 5/10 for the Reanimator as well.. If they would just bring their Healing Beam back to 9" or remove the monster keyword or give them a 5++. I think you slightly underscored Spyders. For 75 Points they can put out 12 shoots at 18", gain the Deny the Witch once in a unit of three which reduces the other two to 70 each one can bring back a Scarab base to a different Scarab unit. They also get to +1 to hit and the unit gains +1d3 attacks with a specific Technomancer loadout. I agree with the Flayed ones, however you didnt mention their two Strats Fight again and -1 to Hit. Disagree with the Triarch Stalker. He's an 8 maybe more. The Heat Ray has 2 profiles that no other model can get in the Codex. Multi Melta or Heavy Flamer with 2d6 auto hits. He can use the flamer in close combat and attack with his limbs that are damage 3 plus has Quantum shielding and a +1 to hit Strat and QS Strat. Out of all the Ctan I prefer the the middle of the road Void Dragon and the bargain Trancendent C'Tan. Not big on any of of the Destroyer Cults... Scarabs are fantastic, but I hate using them. Wraiths are my favorite unit. I prefer them over Skorptek Destroyers because of the speed and the Technomancer buffs and the Inv save. I agree on Tomb Blades, but I prefer Tesla surprisingly with 4 shots each and are great at Overwatching Orikan can give the Praetorian a 5++ and charge reroll... Annihilation Barges are good at tying up units with QS and still firing all its guns. Doomstalkers are best taken in a list with 2-3 to make up for the swingy attacks, but it is blast. Also, it always fires at Full Blast when using its Sentinal Construct rule. All the Lokusts are 15-20 points over cost. 2 Heavies equal 1 Doomstalker... Doom scythe is the same exact aircraft as the Night Scythe which is 145. GW should have just added the points cost of a Death Ray which is about 20pts making it come in at 165, The Monolith needs Fly back.... Plasmancers only work if you take 2-3 Psychomancers are too hard to use. He cant use his abilities until the Morale phase and it requires he be within 12". Lord is a cheap Command Protocols enabler and Orb carrier if you want to save points for more characters...he works well with Lychguard tp keep him alive. Skorptekh Destroyer Lord needs to come dowm, very rarely he sees play in good lists... Lokust Lord is better IMHO. CHeaper, loves the Voltaic Staff for shooting and in melee with a good combat Warlord Trait. Illuminor Szeras is the cost of 2 Crypteks and a great gun and some unique abilities. Needs to drop 10-20 points. Good Warlord Trait if you give him one.
@@MrPace-ge4qy I was very excited when I picked up the codex hoping that praetorians we’re going to be great since they were considered an over costed weak unit in eighth. I was putting bets down on the Szarekhan dynasty making them special since they serve Triarch which is the silent king. In the lore they are kind of like the military police when it comes to making sure the other dynasties don’t eradicate themselves were they acted as guardians of sleeping to worlds secretly watching... You would think they’d be more powerful and I hate the fact they do not have dynastic codes but it makes sense. If anything they should have their own sub Faction Dynastic Codes that are accessible in any dynasty without breaking any detachment rules since they are diagnostic agents. The extra attack and having the rod go to two damage is nice vs Space Marines and other Necrons but after that the Rod kind a falls to the side vs Deathguard and other types of units that have -1 damage reduction which is why I hate bringing them. (my brother plays Deathguard) With the meta-shifting to low Toughness, low save units like 8 Point Skitari, Drukari, Poxwalkers and most likely orcs, I think that Tesla weapons will make a come back and the praetorian load out with the blade and pistol might see some use, which comes out to for face attacks and a pistol 2 for a total of six Attacks when engaged which is pretty good when you combine it with their Triarch Strat of +1 to hit. I agree they are definitely not worth the score that was given in this video. I would only ever take them with the silent king otherwise the 3 unopened boxes of the Lychguard box is being built as Lychguard with shields since I play my Dynasty as Szarekhan which makes them 4++ 5+++. I was surprised to see Lokust Destroyers rated at seven when I think they are a solid five or six at most only because of their points cost and the 24” range. They literally have the same stats as a score of tech destroyer which cost 35. I don’t know how many points the fly keyword is with a gun that has three attacks just like their cousins Skorptekh Destroyers, but it’s definitely not 20 points. I have three boxes of wreaths and because of all the hordes and the -1 reduction from Deathguard I’m seriously considering at least two maybe three wreaths with whip coils which puts them at eight attacks each nine if you have a control node and feel safe overdrive nearby. The bottom line is playing a faction that has one of the first books in an new edition is going to suffer probably entire Edition as GW tends to concentrate their resources on new content and in my experience they rarely dedicate any resources to past releases unless the numbers drop super low and sales suffer and even then that’s rare. The best we can hope for is a good regiment of renown if we even get one. If we do I’m hoping it’s for Destroyer Cults or some strange alliance involving Units from another book. Ironically the silent king is trying to save the galaxy due to some unknown dire threat. It’s been hinted it’s the largest Tyranid swarm ever recorded heading this way, Plus you have a Illuminor Szeras working in secret with these Technamamdrites (Super Crypteks who are basically responsible for creating the weapons during the war in heaven that destroyed or shattered most of the C’Ran) for some entity they refer to as their “Patron”. they are responsible for creating the rift And I don’t think they’re referring to the silent king considering he was responsible for hunting them down and destroying them so they could never re-create such weapons again right before he commanded the entire Necron race to go to sleep so he could float away to the deepest and darkest corners of the void to atone for mistakingly dooming his entire race.
You're a machine, man. I would love to see this done for the Wolves and Death Guard, too. Have you ever considered doing a video around competitive gameplay and tactics? Explain what 'tagging' is, 'screening' etc?
It can also transport infantry characters... for some unknown reason. Kinda useless since if you have even 1 character onboard, you can no longer take the squad of warriors lmao. But you can do a "Party Bus". Have it transport something silly.... like 3 Skorpekh Lords, couple of hexmarks, Lokhust lord with Voidreaper or something... yeet it up the battlefield and have all of em jump out haha
@@severdislike4222 It should still be open topped frankly. Compare it to raiders, and it's over priced as fuck and deserves a little bit of something. If it was open topped, it would be a really great competitive unit
19:25 I played a small tt skirmish with my brother. I had 2 necron warriors squads, 5 of those elite guys, one general and a squad of the scarab. I hid them behind a building that was essentially the perfect area for a kill box. My brother moved 5 of his grey knights and half a squad of guardsmen into the area and on my next turn my scarab scaled up and over the building and ravaged the FUCK out of everyone. In one turn I killed all but the commissar attached to the guards and left 2 Grey knights alive but on one hit left each. Those scarab, if used right, are no joke
Triarch stalker is 10/10 for me. Targeting Relay is not only for one unit, all units hit by Triarch Stalker are affected so you can divide the shoots for differents units and "mark" several units. Also Triarch Stalker have weapon options with high RoF, specially Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon with 6 shoots. It´s one of the few options to re-rolls 1s to hit at shoots, out of Destroyers. Also Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon is a good weapon non-random-RoF and Quantum Shielding make it very tough. Warriors or Inmortals affected with My Will Be Done shooting to an unit affected with Targeting Relay is amazing.
I mostly agree with the units you rated as better than others though I personally would put the Monolith and Lokhust Destroyers at more like 4 or 5 out of 10
Warden can be quite nice even with a melee army. Let’s you charge, fight, then next turn fall back, shoot, then charge and fight again. Really boosts damage on blobs of angry Novokh warriors.
A fun thing with cryptothralls is pairing them with a technomancer equipped with a canoptek control node. 6 attacks each hitting on 2+, and if you throw in a fail-safe overcharger its 7 each.
@@alexkaplan6581 No, only the Outsider and the Nightbringer ate other C'tan. I've never seen it ever mentioned the other C'tan cannibalized each other. You have a source on where you got that from? I own every Necron Codex and novel (not that there'smany of the latter), so it would be weird for them not to mention that in at least one of those.
One of my fondest memories of a battle vs necrons was when I had a Leman Russ charge a 1 W Nightbringer and finish him off. Something so satisfying about just running over an elder god.
This is a crazy project to start up right before CA, very cool though and it's unlikely that the points will go that crazy especially since GW already announced our big change was that Immortals weren't really changing lol.
I really like the idea of a Royal Warden in a Novokh list. His ability means units can cycle charge to keep that extra -1AP in play. Having unit of warriors with S5 and 2A through strats plus the -1AP on the charge could be a great way to punish an opponent that didn't kill them in assault. I think lychguard could really benefit from him too
This was a great video. One comment would be maybe adding things like a ranking of the Dynasty rules? I'd like to see Custodes or Chaos Space Marines but I don't think they would be complete without ranking legions/warbands or Shield Hosts.
Love your work, Auspex! Just wanted to say, though, Deathmarks don't really need a points change so much as more shooting output. If they were, say, Heavy 2, or Rapid-Fire 1... But yeah, they're broken and not in a good way. 😞
i am probably wrong, but nightbringer not only ignores fnp and invul, he ignores damage reducing estricting abilities like duty eternal or 4w\phase on ghazkull, so he is 11\10 lol (probably its just me reading his rules wrong)
The Plasmacyte can be useful for protecting the Destroyers from overwatch. It is only destroyed if it is out of coherency of a destroyed model at the end of the morale phase. If it makes the charge it will prevent the enemy from overwatching the Destroyers, and if the enemy decides to overwatch it instead they will have wasted a CP on a 15 point model (and still be unable to overwatch the Destroyers).
Also it probably won't break accidentally like Void Dragon and Silent King can in transport... I would fcking die inside if I opened my bag at table and get out broken Silent King followed by broken Void Dragon.... I mean they are lovely! But the potential $ and time investment lost if it break (possibly easily) is terrifying
Love you content bud. Think you have been quite generous though with rankings. Lots of 10s, although doing OK in tournaments necrons aren't tearing the meta up.
hexmark is the best veil carrier imo; it drops down on top of any unit you want and veils it, plus it overwatches on a 2+ also good with gauntlet of the conflagrator
Video Idea: How to build your units. A video diving into the best way of putting together your plastic. Which weapon loadout is best. Like: How to best build a 10 man unit of wyches.
Orikan the Diviner needs a reesculpt with two models one when is in normal state and the other when it goes super-saiyan. Also Anrakyr need a reesculpt. The new Overlord looks just better, is plastic and can perfectly proxi him. Many of the characters have another drawback: they are being cast in resin.
Thanks for the video, great content as always. But as a necron player I disagree on the ctan ranks you give especially on "normal" ctan. They all should be almost 2 points lower. Nightbringer can almost easily get destroyed by a good player before even it attacks anything.
UPDATED POINTS in Chapter Approved here! th-cam.com/video/pmA2GDElft4/w-d-xo.html
- Mainly small changes that wouldn't affect how I'd rank the units.
- Probably the biggest update I'd make would be ranking Lokhust Heavy Destroyers at an 8/10 now, 60pts for Damage 3D3 shot is pretty nice!
- The Doomsday Ark seems the better choice over the Doomstalker as well now, they were quite balanced previously, and the Ark dropped 20pts
Great job, thanks mate.
Just to clarify, this was recorded prior to the announcement pf Chapter Approved, so not the best timing! I'll certainly cover any necron points changes and how I think they affect the army...
It is okay, sir. Let us just say out outrun Games workshop themeselves. Maybe you could make new video just about putting this one in perspective of Chapter approved.
Shame on you sir for not being able to see the future! I came here for clairvoyance darn it!
Jokes aside you do an excellent job and I can't thank you enough for being awesome and very quick on the videos. Keep up the great work. 🙌
I didn't see Kamoteph the Crooked mentioned?
@@0MrScruff0 He is model only and does not posses individual unit profile.
I didn't know that. I thought he would have just had a data sheet somewhere.
auspex puts necron to shame, giving how much video he is dishing out, he is the real machine
I suspect he is a 9th edition Skitarii. They put necrons to shame.
Facts for days
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I was gonna like this comment but it's already at a *nice* number
@@aronwulf1580 a man of culture I see. can't blame you, I know the feeling
Necron coolness is what got me into the hobby, but decision paralysis was stopping me from picking models and a dynasty to paint, your videos have been super helpful, and I’ve started painting and planning an army
Me thinking: Auspex sure uploads a lot I wonder how he does it
Opens TH-cam: Another almost hour long video in less than 3 days
If you ever need to slow down feel free to Auspex!
There is one important correction to make: The actual biggest reason to add Nemesor Zandrekh is because his model appears to be the only one in the entire game that dabs ,which is lit af, fam.
Ayyyyyyyyyyy
*rap air horn*
going to put the staff on mine on his back.
I'll keep that in mind when making my army list. Thanks breh!
One of the marines in the starter set dabs
I'd point out that the overlord and lord are the only units that bring with them command protocols. As it requires a character with the lord keyword, and they're the only 2 that bring that. Yes, all characters will have a CP aura, but to have access to them, you need one of those 2.
Good point, should have mentioned that in the positives of those units!
@@auspextactics The Catacomb Command Barge also has the Noble keyword which lets it enable CP as the 3rd option.
Its not the Lord keyword, its the Noble Keyword. So most of the named characters allow you to have the Command protocols from them, but for generic yes, you only have the Lord, Overlord or Catacomb Command Barge.
Really wish Lokust and Skorpekh Lords got the Noble keyword.
I dont know how he manages to put out this many videos especially how useful they are. I get the feeling, where as some people have ran out of ideas on what 40k videos to make, he hasnt got enough time to make all the videos he wants to.
Just a thought, I can't help but feel you need to change your scoring system to a 5 point scale. You marked all but one of these as 5 or greater, even when you said those models weren't great and would probably never be taken. If a 5/10 is something that will never be taken, then I can't help but wonder what a 1/10 counts as on your scale? 1-5 is much easier to assign meaning to, unless there's decent justification for having the additional dynamic range. (5 - Amazing, game winning, 4 - Incredibly strong, 3 - Good unit, average output, 2 - Below average performance, not worth the points but has unique scenarios to be good, 1 - Don't bring, too expensive, doesn't perform).
You must be an engineer because your method seems more efficient
If I had to speculate, Id say Auspex is trying to score them not just somewhat relative to each other but the 40k range as a whole. A 6 out of 10 might preform somewhat better in its roll than a 5 out of 10, but somewhat better is only going to go far when you factor in the player and weight of dice. The 1-2 point drop is perfectly usable and not a huge loss if thats what you have in your collection or just prefer those models.
Using the 1 to 5 might come off as much harsher and give the impression of units being less valuable than they are.
That, and for the necron codex in particular, is actually just pretty solidly balanced without any particularly bad units. Everything here is playable and theirs really only a handful of standouts that are just that much better than the competition. If you look back at the guard Review for instance, That actually handed out quite a few low scores.
@@blackwolf671 there are plenty of bad units in the Necron codex - all the ranged anti tank is crap for what it costs and you have very little reliability outside the silent king menhirs.
@@hughtitchener6478 Every Army has its ups and downs, Anti Tank firepower is one of the things necrons have always had to contend with.
Though I would counter with Doomstalkers and Doomsday arcs being fairly solid, particularly with some support from a Triarch Stalker or MWBD. Destroyers could probably use a point drop and their a little fragile. But even then, put extermination protocols on them and when they work, they really work.
@@blackwolf671 I agree, I'm fairly certain that he compares to all the factions and units of 40K. However, I think it should also be made a bit more clear that's what he's doing, what his criteria are and how he weighs them. Or to even have two ratings, one for 40k in general and one for internal balance, comparing to the rest of the codex. I also do think they are a bit inconsistent and that he's reluctant to hand out low scores in general. Still, it's his opinion and the reasoning and analysis for each unit is more useful than a number anyway.
Awesome, just in time for me planning my Necrons list for next year.
Wait a few hours till you see all the new points on chapter approved
No it’s pre order on saturday but at you will have the points everywhere on the internet by Saturday evening at the latest
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New 40k player, just picked up a necron codex. Perfect upload timing!
Welcome to the hobby! Enjoy your tomb kings in spaaaaaaace!
The moment Auspex understood the weakness of his flesh...
It disgusted him.
He craved the strength and certainty of necrodermis
Thank you for the great content, but if you ever want to take a break, you've definitely earned it.
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I sincerely wish the GW brass had the kind of work ethic, attention to detail & a fraction of a shard of community fondness, that you have my dude.
What? Lol you ever put together a video like this? 4 hours a day to put out this content is hardly work and I'm being generous with 4 hours assuming this editing takes longer.
@@CloudianMH k what have you accomplished and created lately?
This video was awesome and informative. Looks like I won't be winning many games with my Necrons, though. I put the effort into painting my Obelisk, so I'm sure as hell going to use it whenever I can.
I appreciate this video so much! I got into Warhammer about a month ago and I love Necrons so I have been collecting them. It is so helpful to have a video like this give a quick rundown on every unit.
I would like to mention that since convergence of dominion has the vehicle keyword, they can benefit from big guns never tire and fire into melee. They're still not great, but they aren't invalidated by a squad of guardsmen touching into them.
could you use the convergence to screen out deepstrikes in your deployment? If yes, that could be useful right? One less job for scarabs
@@TheInsanityOfTheToilet they can also soak up mortals from smite and such. They're not terrible, they just don't do anything other than be wounds stuck in your deployment zone and a nasty surprise when the opponent actually reads the statline on the guns.
this is my favorite kind of video as a new warhammer player it really helps me get a grasp on the army and what its good at and what is good in the army
best videos on tactics on YT. thanks for the effort!
I've been waiting for this video! Let's flesh out the Indomitus box now.
One negative Id like to add to the flayed ones is their $ cost. Right now it's $50 dollars for 5 of the newer flayed ones. A full squad of 20 is $200. Id rather bring something else.
Hexmarks are meant for low armor/high model count enemies.
They are good for only one thing; orks.
Luckily, my brother only plays one thing; orks.
Ooo was definitely waiting for this. Thx a ton!
All my friends play necrons. I’ve been looking for this for sooo long
My Monolith once got one shoted by a Leman Russ Demolisher...
I still woke up in the middle of the night screaming.
Digging up my old necron army now....good to know I can use my old models ...they also had amazing paint jobs 😁😊😁
Thank you so much for the in depth explanation for units. As an absolute newbie for me this is priceless. And love the way you explain it :). Thank you mate!
By far and away the premiere 40k strategy analysis content on the web
These entire army videos are absolutely invaluable 🤩. Thank you so much for taking the time for such a concise synopsis of each model. That being said, I'd love to see one for the Orks (once the new codex arrives) and in the meantime possibly a Sororitas of Tyrranid one 😃.
Super solid video. Thanks Auspex!
Another thing that can be done with Warrior blobs is to pair a novokh group with a rad-wreathed/ancients stir dynasty. Yes, you lose command protocols but the -1 toughness math wise translates ~ to +2 strength against meatlings (non-vehicles.)
I was also thinking of a 5/10 for the Reanimator as well.. If they would just bring their Healing Beam back to 9" or remove the monster keyword or give them a 5++.
I think you slightly underscored Spyders. For 75 Points they can put out 12 shoots at 18", gain the Deny the Witch once in a unit of three which reduces the other two to 70 each one can bring back a Scarab base to a different Scarab unit. They also get to +1 to hit and the unit gains +1d3 attacks with a specific Technomancer loadout.
I agree with the Flayed ones, however you didnt mention their two Strats Fight again and -1 to Hit.
Disagree with the Triarch Stalker. He's an 8 maybe more. The Heat Ray has 2 profiles that no other model can get in the Codex. Multi Melta or Heavy Flamer with 2d6 auto hits. He can use the flamer in close combat and attack with his limbs that are damage 3 plus has Quantum shielding and a +1 to hit Strat and QS Strat.
Out of all the Ctan I prefer the the middle of the road Void Dragon and the bargain Trancendent C'Tan.
Not big on any of of the Destroyer Cults...
Scarabs are fantastic, but I hate using them.
Wraiths are my favorite unit. I prefer them over Skorptek Destroyers because of the speed and the Technomancer buffs and the Inv save.
I agree on Tomb Blades, but I prefer Tesla surprisingly with 4 shots each and are great at Overwatching
Orikan can give the Praetorian a 5++ and charge reroll...
Annihilation Barges are good at tying up units with QS and still firing all its guns.
Doomstalkers are best taken in a list with 2-3 to make up for the swingy attacks, but it is blast. Also, it always fires at Full Blast when using its Sentinal Construct rule.
All the Lokusts are 15-20 points over cost. 2 Heavies equal 1 Doomstalker...
Doom scythe is the same exact aircraft as the Night Scythe which is 145. GW should have just added the points cost of a Death Ray which is about 20pts making it come in at 165,
The Monolith needs Fly back....
Plasmancers only work if you take 2-3
Psychomancers are too hard to use. He cant use his abilities until the Morale phase and it requires he be within 12".
Lord is a cheap Command Protocols enabler and Orb carrier if you want to save points for more characters...he works well with Lychguard tp keep him alive.
Skorptekh Destroyer Lord needs to come dowm, very rarely he sees play in good lists...
Lokust Lord is better IMHO. CHeaper, loves the Voltaic Staff for shooting and in melee with a good combat Warlord Trait.
Illuminor Szeras is the cost of 2 Crypteks and a great gun and some unique abilities. Needs to drop 10-20 points. Good Warlord Trait if you give him one.
You make good points. I think AT overated praetorians as the are cannon fodder without one of two HQ's buffing them.
@@MrPace-ge4qy I was very excited when I picked up the codex hoping that praetorians we’re going to be great since they were considered an over costed weak unit in eighth. I was putting bets down on the Szarekhan dynasty making them special since they serve Triarch which is the silent king. In the lore they are kind of like the military police when it comes to making sure the other dynasties don’t eradicate themselves were they acted as guardians of sleeping to worlds secretly watching...
You would think they’d be more powerful and I hate the fact they do not have dynastic codes but it makes sense. If anything they should have their own sub Faction Dynastic Codes that are accessible in any dynasty without breaking any detachment rules since they are diagnostic agents.
The extra attack and having the rod go to two damage is nice vs Space Marines and other Necrons but after that the Rod kind a falls to the side vs Deathguard and other types of units that have -1 damage reduction which is why I hate bringing them. (my brother plays Deathguard)
With the meta-shifting to low Toughness, low save units like 8 Point Skitari, Drukari, Poxwalkers and most likely orcs, I think that Tesla weapons will make a come back and the praetorian load out with the blade and pistol might see some use, which comes out to for face attacks and a pistol 2 for a total of six Attacks when engaged which is pretty good when you combine it with their Triarch Strat of +1 to hit.
I agree they are definitely not worth the score that was given in this video. I would only ever take them with the silent king otherwise the 3 unopened boxes of the Lychguard box is being built as Lychguard with shields since I play my Dynasty as Szarekhan which makes them 4++ 5+++.
I was surprised to see Lokust Destroyers rated at seven when I think they are a solid five or six at most only because of their points cost and the 24” range. They literally have the same stats as a score of tech destroyer which cost 35. I don’t know how many points the fly keyword is with a gun that has three attacks just like their cousins Skorptekh Destroyers, but it’s definitely not 20 points.
I have three boxes of wreaths and because of all the hordes and the -1 reduction from Deathguard I’m seriously considering at least two maybe three wreaths with whip coils which puts them at eight attacks each nine if you have a control node and feel safe overdrive nearby.
The bottom line is playing a faction that has one of the first books in an new edition is going to suffer probably entire Edition as GW tends to concentrate their resources on new content and in my experience they rarely dedicate any resources to past releases unless the numbers drop super low and sales suffer and even then that’s rare. The best we can hope for is a good regiment of renown if we even get one.
If we do I’m hoping it’s for Destroyer Cults or some strange alliance involving Units from another book. Ironically the silent king is trying to save the galaxy due to some unknown dire threat. It’s been hinted it’s the largest Tyranid swarm ever recorded heading this way, Plus you have a Illuminor Szeras working in secret with these Technamamdrites (Super Crypteks who are basically responsible for creating the weapons during the war in heaven that destroyed or shattered most of the C’Ran) for some entity they refer to as their “Patron”. they are responsible for creating the rift And I don’t think they’re referring to the silent king considering he was responsible for hunting them down and destroying them so they could never re-create such weapons again right before he commanded the entire Necron race to go to sleep so he could float away to the deepest and darkest corners of the void to atone for mistakingly dooming his entire race.
When canoptek spyders and plasmacyte's have the same ranking, something is horribly wrong.
@@TazTaser Not to mention saying that the Annihilation Barge has good firepower.
I feel like AT is overrating this codex. Also yes preatorians were kinda of a let down there to squishy without Orikan.
You're a machine, man. I would love to see this done for the Wolves and Death Guard, too.
Have you ever considered doing a video around competitive gameplay and tactics? Explain what 'tagging' is, 'screening' etc?
Truly excellent review. You're the best!
It's actually infuriating that the ghost ark only transports warriors...
imagine if thise thing could transport 10 immortals or 10 lychguard, good god it would be deadly
It can also transport infantry characters... for some unknown reason. Kinda useless since if you have even 1 character onboard, you can no longer take the squad of warriors lmao.
But you can do a "Party Bus". Have it transport something silly.... like 3 Skorpekh Lords, couple of hexmarks, Lokhust lord with Voidreaper or something... yeet it up the battlefield and have all of em jump out haha
Just remember 5'th through 7'th it used to be open topped too!
@@severdislike4222 It should still be open topped frankly. Compare it to raiders, and it's over priced as fuck and deserves a little bit of something. If it was open topped, it would be a really great competitive unit
@@ForeverAbroad wholeheartedly agreed
This is just the video I needed because I'm starting a Necron army next.
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I played a small tt skirmish with my brother. I had 2 necron warriors squads, 5 of those elite guys, one general and a squad of the scarab. I hid them behind a building that was essentially the perfect area for a kill box. My brother moved 5 of his grey knights and half a squad of guardsmen into the area and on my next turn my scarab scaled up and over the building and ravaged the FUCK out of everyone. In one turn I killed all but the commissar attached to the guards and left 2 Grey knights alive but on one hit left each. Those scarab, if used right, are no joke
This video is dope asf. Great job
I'm preparing to get my first army and I'm so happy I found this
was a really good video thanks Auspex
Monolith is an easy 4/10, it's overcosted, easy to kill and firepower will rarely make it's points back, Obelisk is 1/10 - because it has no use.
Thank you. Been thinking about getting my first army, being Necrons, but have been a little overwhelmed.
Triarch stalker is 10/10 for me. Targeting Relay is not only for one unit, all units hit by Triarch Stalker are affected so you can divide the shoots for differents units and "mark" several units. Also Triarch Stalker have weapon options with high RoF, specially Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon with 6 shoots. It´s one of the few options to re-rolls 1s to hit at shoots, out of Destroyers.
Also Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon is a good weapon non-random-RoF and Quantum Shielding make it very tough.
Warriors or Inmortals affected with My Will Be Done shooting to an unit affected with Targeting Relay is amazing.
I mostly agree with the units you rated as better than others though I personally would put the Monolith and Lokhust Destroyers at more like 4 or 5 out of 10
Man, if a Monith and Convergencr of Dominion are 7s I tremble to think of what qualifies as a 1 in your book!
worse.. consider the obelisk is NOT a 1/10 for what is an overpriced brick with "ignore me" tagged on all its sides
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Warden can be quite nice even with a melee army. Let’s you charge, fight, then next turn fall back, shoot, then charge and fight again. Really boosts damage on blobs of angry Novokh warriors.
The hexmark makes me so sad. He’s such an awesome model but he’s really not the best option.
Wow man these are awsome videos. Space wolves,orks and chaos space marines would be cool to see.
You forgot the main downside of flayed ones: they’re hard as fuck to build
A fun thing with cryptothralls is pairing them with a technomancer equipped with a canoptek control node. 6 attacks each hitting on 2+, and if you throw in a fail-safe overcharger its 7 each.
Would love to see a similar review for Tau
"Oddly enough he is really good at killing other C'tan."
I mean, not that odd considering he killed quite a lot of them, and ate them lol.
All of the sharded ones killed and ate C'tan, though big NB was tge best, IIRC.
@@alexkaplan6581 No, only the Outsider and the Nightbringer ate other C'tan. I've never seen it ever mentioned the other C'tan cannibalized each other. You have a source on where you got that from?
I own every Necron Codex and novel (not that there'smany of the latter), so it would be weird for them not to mention that in at least one of those.
Not only the Ctan man but the Ctan woman and the Ctan Children too! I ATE them! They are like animals so I slaughtered them like animals!
Was very excited to watch this one! Would love to see AD MECH next! 🧙🏻♂️
Hey nice video as always.
Will you make a new one of these but for the post-"codex admech?
One of my fondest memories of a battle vs necrons was when I had a Leman Russ charge a 1 W Nightbringer and finish him off. Something so satisfying about just running over an elder god.
With new LoW cp cost changes does that effect how viable the monolith is. And I don't think you lose any codes or protocols as it is dynasty keyworded
Another thing to consider with the lokhust lord, he is the only one with access to the phylactry as standard. Could make him exeedingly tanky.
Idk about a couple but great content as always.
This is a crazy project to start up right before CA, very cool though and it's unlikely that the points will go that crazy especially since GW already announced our big change was that Immortals weren't really changing lol.
Awesome video!!!!! You are a beast!
I really like the idea of a Royal Warden in a Novokh list. His ability means units can cycle charge to keep that extra -1AP in play. Having unit of warriors with S5 and 2A through strats plus the -1AP on the charge could be a great way to punish an opponent that didn't kill them in assault.
I think lychguard could really benefit from him too
This was a great video. One comment would be maybe adding things like a ranking of the Dynasty rules? I'd like to see Custodes or Chaos Space Marines but I don't think they would be complete without ranking legions/warbands or Shield Hosts.
hmmm will use this video to figure out how to expand my Indomitus dudes.
I just wish, they would've legitimized the mynarkh dynasty. The new destroyers would've been great with 8th edition Kutlakh...
Video was Great you should cover the Space Wolves next!
you should add the prices too
I watch these to know the weaknesses of my enemies
It doesn’t quite get them over the “mark”. Over the death mark 😂😂
damn you could have done a 3 part video for this one and they would not have seems like short ones. Thank's as always for your vidéos
Love your work, Auspex! Just wanted to say, though, Deathmarks don't really need a points change so much as more shooting output. If they were, say, Heavy 2, or Rapid-Fire 1... But yeah, they're broken and not in a good way. 😞
i am probably wrong, but nightbringer not only ignores fnp and invul, he ignores damage reducing
estricting abilities like duty eternal or 4w\phase on ghazkull, so he is 11\10 lol (probably its just me reading his rules wrong)
Scarab Swarm 10/10 confirmed, they tied up some hefty units in the last few games I've played.
Great video, thanks!
Would have been nice to include the FW units too. Especially the Tombstalker Sentinel is an excellent Gravis Armour killer
He recently did an entire video on necron FW units
The Plasmacyte can be useful for protecting the Destroyers from overwatch. It is only destroyed if it is out of coherency of a destroyed model at the end of the morale phase. If it makes the charge it will prevent the enemy from overwatching the Destroyers, and if the enemy decides to overwatch it instead they will have wasted a CP on a 15 point model (and still be unable to overwatch the Destroyers).
Forgot one major thing bout the scarab, you get a fun little stratagem to blow em up on someone.
Surely the actual model of the Nightbringer should be listed as one of the Weaknesses. What a let down.
but its also a 370 point model for $40 and one of the most dangerous necron models. Model is dated but it isnt ugly like some finecast out there
I like the Nightbringer model tbh
Also it probably won't break accidentally like Void Dragon and Silent King can in transport... I would fcking die inside if I opened my bag at table and get out broken Silent King followed by broken Void Dragon.... I mean they are lovely! But the potential $ and time investment lost if it break (possibly easily) is terrifying
Love you content bud. Think you have been quite generous though with rankings. Lots of 10s, although doing OK in tournaments necrons aren't tearing the meta up.
I think the ratings are how they stack up against other units in their own codex not the meta in general.
hexmark is the best veil carrier imo; it drops down on top of any unit you want and veils it, plus it overwatches on a 2+
also good with gauntlet of the conflagrator
I can't wait for the 12 hour long Space Marine video on this topic
Video Idea: How to build your units. A video diving into the best way of putting together your plastic. Which weapon loadout is best. Like: How to best build a 10 man unit of wyches.
Hypermaterial Ablater is very nice on warscythe lychguards because they get Cover and 2+ armor so, if not the Shooter is 12 Inches or less away
Orikan the Diviner needs a reesculpt with two models one when is in normal state and the other when it goes super-saiyan. Also Anrakyr need a reesculpt. The new Overlord looks just better, is plastic and can perfectly proxi him. Many of the characters have another drawback: they are being cast in resin.
Me, a Brazilian who has never seen a Tabletop war game: why not? Why should I not watch this 1 hour vídeo
I'd agree with the bump of Royal Warden to 8, he's a prime pick for the Mephrit dynasties relic weapon Conduit of the Stars.
Auspex! Could you make an updated one of these for the new Core rules added to the crons! They have so many options now!
I love Flayed Ones and really want to run more of them, but GW makes them SO DAMN EXPENSIVE
So I glanced at the video run time and misread it as 5 mins and was very concerned for our dude trying to marathon cram it all into that timeframe XD
I feel like the Crypteks would suit the elites slot a bit better than hq
Please do Custodes! Just starting 40k and would love one of these for them
Would like to suggest Tyranids for review.
Scarab swarm + command protocol of the Hungry Void makes them S4. Hurting average troops on 4+ instead of 5+.
Fun fact the Chronomancer from the Killteam is Female according the book that's included. Pretty neat
Exelente job!
Tyranids next please!
I’d love to see one of these for death guard
Thanks for the video, great content as always. But as a necron player I disagree on the ctan ranks you give especially on "normal" ctan. They all should be almost 2 points lower. Nightbringer can almost easily get destroyed by a good player before even it attacks anything.
Just received a Chronomancer :) Next it just might be some Spyders.
Great, thank you!
I'd love to see this same format for sisters of battle, i want to start am army of them but don't know Every single Unit and which to get first