Yes this is all true but you’ll forget when Stockton charter went thru that shit when their member got killed by cops it’s was santo padre that backed them up it when the tables were turned and santo padre got betrayed in the second season all the other charters looked the other way because of the gun deal that started this whole shit
@@amitkenan3878 The fuck it is. The other greedy charters pushed them to such measures. Then put a hit on SanPa and expected no blow black? SanPa is full of ruthless killers and they expected them to play good boys? Nah.
@@amitkenan3878 Speaking of cancer let's take a look at EZ guy started out as a prospect/ single cell and has grown into a tumor that is consuming the club and he'll keep growing.
This whole episode messed me up. Losing Manny, ALL of the scenes with Creeper/Kody, and Alvarez getting removed. The soundtrack especially here in this scene is phenomenal man. Captures the betrayal/heartbreak Alvarez feels. I loved Alvarez. I loved Manny. 2 of my favorites are gone. At the very least, Alvarez didn't get whacked.
@@kauasola No lie man, I dont dislike/hate EZ, but I am not necessarily a fan either. I'm indifferent at this point. I've always liked Angel more, and Coco was my favorite. I won't be surprised if Angel gets it next.
They never deserved padrino he’s 100 percent right he dosnt want to see anymore brothers dieing I really hope something bad happens to Ez so he can live with it and see that he fucked up with his power and killing hunger he dosnt care about brotherhood at this point
At this point the brotherhood is dead as 8 recall its Izzy idea to plant the bomb on Canche which lead them to asult that nearly finished them Padrino was told so meny time to cut the charter but he wouldn't cause he was loyal what has Izzy done declaring war on an enemy who have them out man and out gunned not to mention thier resident psycho who just cooked his back up
You can tell Alvarez is heavily influenced by Jax. He’s been really wise and looking out for the best interest of the club. He knows what violence and loss can lead to. One of the last things Jax did was make sure the Sons and Mayans were allies and throughout the show padrino was trying hard to keep that alive.
Yeah I feel bad for alvarez here because he saved the charter from being wiped out by cache in the first place then they do that to him so yeah EZ deserves whats coming for him so bring on the REAPER
Yeah I feel bad for Alvarez as well but the circumstances are different now they're at war with another motorcycle charter and just like with the VM in season 2 Brothers are dying and you want to keep advocating for peace even after a deal was made.. they voted him out because he was starting to look weak
@@jamalhiley8007 yeah things might change now the warehouse got burnt down in the finale but I don't know who did it plus alvarez did say the sons outnumbered them 3 to 1 plus some fans think EZ is gonna be the mayans downfall
@@michaelclark4062 yeah I hear you but I'm not going to lie to you in the original toll double times where I wouldn't rooting for Jax I was thinking like how they going to get up out of this and he did it and ez has already proven to be way smarter than Jax on both sides so I guess we'll just see what happens..🤷
Yeah kee slim I just don't see the sons getting wiped completely but perhaps the writers will make it so the cartel helps the mayans win the war in season 5
Hell yes the OG left the game really he has done his bid plus the feds eventually catch up the next generation of Mayans so he left at a good time so ever is still in the club will burn to ashes
Being ambitious is a good thing at least he isn’t bowing to the SOA only to lead into another war in the future. EZ is the visionary and king the Mayans need right now
I highly disagree. Marcus been in place because he has been smart it is not always weakness staying alive. Ez barley been a member he is power hungry and you saw what that got them. Without Alvarez they would be all dead he saved them. That’s who you want was president Ez he is a hot head. Idk why some see him as so calculated. He is ruthless but he his ambition will be his downfall
Whereas SOA used Hamlet as the template for its storyline, Mayans is definitely based on MacBeth. EZ is going to fall and fall hard in the end. This series will end badly.
Yeah he probably will fall in the end but I hope he go's out saving angels live thus giving him a little redemption but I don't know what will happen yet plus they haven't said how many seasons there doing so It will be a while before we find out what happens to him
After all these years, seeing this actor with his calm acting style, it was intense watching him finally snap, even though it was for only for 2 seconds. I was watching this scene silent as hell lol Man, they had EZ wilding out this season though. That was a hell of a heel turn lol
I’m glad padrino left. It’s all going to go downhill from here. No way the Mayans win a war against the Sons they’re out numbered Alvarez said it himself. They even have the feds looking into them now. EZ needs to change his mindset and the way he wants to run this club or he’s going to cause a lot of damage to the mc.
Thing is Alvarez is turning into Jax, trying to get the club out of deals and activities that will get them all killed. Problem is the club didn't respect Alvarez' decisions like how SOA respected Jax '
Yeah I hope your right i do prefer the sons but what will probably happen to keep things going on longer is that the Mexican cartel will keep helping the mayans with the war
Jax vs clay we got son killing father are we gonna get the opposite here father killing son since they preluded it earlier or just the most obvious rout brother killing brother killing brother since there are three. Angel avenging ez riding off into the sun set. Didn't see the packer son twist either. How would Taza of voted on the kill switch.
Thing is all of Santo padre are thinking of coco and they’re not using their heads. Alvarez knows why the war started but the others won’t listen. He knows this won’t end well but they wanna war then so be it. But don’t expect Alvarez to save them this time.
I see season four as the rise of EZ he gets promoted too quickly and within a short amount of time he already making moves that will either land him or his brother Angel in the grave. SE 1-2 he’s a prospect SE 3 he’s a full patch and SE 4 he was VP and now President, he brought back the kill-switch clause to remove Canche or Bishop but it would turn on Alvarez. Who is right here? Alvarez or EZ? I see the heartbreak and the feeling of betrayal in Alvarez eyes, I feel for him more than I do for EZ
Man when I saw this I felt like Padme from Star Wars. EZ going down a path that I can’t follow. Broke my heart he betrayed the man who saw him as wise and smart as well as not giving JJ family the money regardless after his wife came to EZs trailer.
0:38 bishop might already be regretting voting his primo/president out. Cuz even if they don't see eye to eye this season he doesn't forget he was the founder of the club
So EZ was worried about Angel son growing up looking at his pops from inside a mirror on prison but not worried about his son growing up not being able to see him at all if he dies huh... Smh
Well since EZ is so confident... He better be right about all this(Going to be hard proving a point to Padrino).. And Miguel burning the factory down(finding out EZ and Angel are his brothers)..... MMMMMhhhhmmmm Fishy....... Seems he wants to rebuild his Galindo Cartel again...... There are so many questions....
What if Marcus said “I’m happy I won’t be here to see it burn” Means he called Happy and told him to go burn the warehouse full of heroin to get back at the club??? Just a thought hah
@@JRboy23 bro the war with the sons is inevitable, EZ is trying to make sure they win. EZ getting control of the pipeline will make Santo padre a powerhouse which would make all the charters come together as one club with one king.
@@Ronruk The Mayans don’t have a chance against the Sons padrino said it himself. Especially with EZ at the head of the table now. He doesn’t know how to lead nor plan. He only wants to kill and has no consideration for anything or anyone. The drugs that were going to fund the war is all destroyed now and with that things will only get worse.
EZ HAS TO MAKE THIS WORK AND PADRINO IS IN THE WAY I LIKE WHO EZ IS BECOMING TAKING INITIATIVE. HE HAS TO FIND AWAY OR DROWN. CAN'T WAIT TELL NEXT TIME😑
Alvarez saves EZ than EZ uses Bishop to take the crown for himself...I honestly hope EZ gets what's coming to him, sad part is his blood family and the MC will be caught in the crossfire because of ambition
Kicked from the club he is no longer padrino no longer the god father he is no longer a Mayan he said it himself he built the club but he is happy and relieved that he won't be able to watch it burn and he was not talking about Santo padre he was talking about the intire club itself meaning all charters
@@OutdawayMP imo that is just stupid this whole season has just been boring the only person with morals you can get behind in the whole show is gilly and thats litterly it
@@beadymusician6485 ya the club stuff is interesting but most of the time it was focused on side characters like Emily and el banaro or who ever he is like I wanna see Mayans if I wanted to see business men the intire show I would watch 2 in a half men
How do you they not take into account the other chargers want them dead it’s only because of Marcus they haven’t done it and the cartels deal is only with with Marcus so without him they have no deal and the other charters want Santo Padre out and they haven’t realized it’s Sanyo padre fault that they are going to war
Damn alvarez did get soft, he should of put santo padre back on their knees and demand answers for montez body instead he politics with them and gets outed smh
I don’t know if it’s just me but I see at the end of mayans EZ will get locked up and turn informant I don’t think he will get the pleasure of dying for his deeds. Jax death was merciful cause he lost it all and he knew he was wrong to the core but EZ’s whole ascension has been tyrannical his downfall will be the end of the club altogether
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Just by his mere presence, Marcus Alvarez Singlehandedly stopped the Mayans civil war, and this is how they thank him.
The other charters were right SP needed to be wipe out and alvarez didn't listen
Yes this is all true but you’ll forget when Stockton charter went thru that shit when their member got killed by cops it’s was santo padre that backed them up it when the tables were turned and santo padre got betrayed in the second season all the other charters looked the other way because of the gun deal that started this whole shit
Damn Alvarez saved them from getting slaughtered by Conche and they vote him out smh.
Diaz was right: their charter is cancer to the club
@@amitkenan3878 The fuck it is. The other greedy charters pushed them to such measures. Then put a hit on SanPa and expected no blow black? SanPa is full of ruthless killers and they expected them to play good boys? Nah.
It really EZ, he's the disease and he's spreading
Facts
@@amitkenan3878 Speaking of cancer let's take a look at EZ guy started out as a prospect/ single cell and has grown into a tumor that is consuming the club and he'll keep growing.
Gotta feel for the man Padrino. Seeing the thing you built go down a dark path yet again like before, he knows they’re fucked.
He's has become Jax's Dad
Santo Padre without a doubt is the menacing charter lmao
Respect to Santo Padre for the California patch fuck dividing your club under the Sons lol..
The most incapable charter lol
Lol how when they got like 6 members granted their all killers but nobody is invincible
@@khalilsmith6812 5 now that Creepers giving himself up to the feds, they better patch in Nestor ASAP and get some fresh blood in.
That's why they're the main characters lol
This whole episode messed me up. Losing Manny, ALL of the scenes with Creeper/Kody, and Alvarez getting removed. The soundtrack especially here in this scene is phenomenal man. Captures the betrayal/heartbreak Alvarez feels. I loved Alvarez. I loved Manny. 2 of my favorites are gone. At the very least, Alvarez didn't get whacked.
I agree with you, the way things are going, the next one is going to be Angel.
@@kauasola No lie man, I dont dislike/hate EZ, but I am not necessarily a fan either. I'm indifferent at this point. I've always liked Angel more, and Coco was my favorite. I won't be surprised if Angel gets it next.
@@kauasola no I think angel is gonna be the one stops ez cuz that’s the only person who can really really get close to him
@@TRSFSQUAD what Angel is gonna let his personal feelings of his brother get in the way of EZ making them a powerhouse which is what they need
Manny was set as VP too. I would’ve liked to see manny come to the Santo padre charter
They never deserved padrino he’s 100 percent right he dosnt want to see anymore brothers dieing I really hope something bad happens to Ez so he can live with it and see that he fucked up with his power and killing hunger he dosnt care about brotherhood at this point
Watch it be angel that gets the shit end of the stick AGAIN .
At this point the brotherhood is dead as 8 recall its Izzy idea to plant the bomb on Canche which lead them to asult that nearly finished them Padrino was told so meny time to cut the charter but he wouldn't cause he was loyal what has Izzy done declaring war on an enemy who have them out man and out gunned not to mention thier resident psycho who just cooked his back up
Mannys death is gonna hurt Ez I feel bec he believed him and manny was the future of the Mayans
@@Jbugchirpster they fact he's dead and Izzy burning All the bridges show what kind of future that's going to be
Ez is turning into Clay and Alvarez is pretty much everything Jax should've been if he didn't lost Tara
You can tell Alvarez is heavily influenced by Jax. He’s been really wise and looking out for the best interest of the club. He knows what violence and loss can lead to. One of the last things Jax did was make sure the Sons and Mayans were allies and throughout the show padrino was trying hard to keep that alive.
Padrino saved their asses from getting killed by the other charters and this is how they repay him, ungrateful.
Diaz was right: they really are a cancer to the club
Yeah I feel bad for alvarez here because he saved the charter from being wiped out by cache in the first place then they do that to him so yeah EZ deserves whats coming for him so bring on the REAPER
Yeah I feel bad for Alvarez as well but the circumstances are different now they're at war with another motorcycle charter and just like with the VM in season 2 Brothers are dying and you want to keep advocating for peace even after a deal was made.. they voted him out because he was starting to look weak
@@jamalhiley8007 yeah things might change now the warehouse got burnt down in the finale but I don't know who did it plus alvarez did say the sons outnumbered them 3 to 1 plus some fans think EZ is gonna be the mayans downfall
@@michaelclark4062 yeah I hear you but I'm not going to lie to you in the original toll double times where I wouldn't rooting for Jax I was thinking like how they going to get up out of this and he did it and ez has already proven to be way smarter than Jax on both sides so I guess we'll just see what happens..🤷
Time to end the Reaper. Stop living in another show's shadow.
Yeah kee slim I just don't see the sons getting wiped completely but perhaps the writers will make it so the cartel helps the mayans win the war in season 5
Alvarez will be the last man standing
Hell yes the OG left the game really he has done his bid plus the feds eventually catch up the next generation of Mayans so he left at a good time so ever is still in the club will burn to ashes
this marks the beginning of the end for Santo Padre.....they have no one else that reasons no one else that thinks they're all selfish
You guys wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for Alveraez. Ez your power driven and your gonna fall
Being ambitious is a good thing at least he isn’t bowing to the SOA only to lead into another war in the future. EZ is the visionary and king the Mayans need right now
I highly disagree. Marcus been in place because he has been smart it is not always weakness staying alive. Ez barley been a member he is power hungry and you saw what that got them. Without Alvarez they would be all dead he saved them. That’s who you want was president Ez he is a hot head. Idk why some see him as so calculated. He is ruthless but he his ambition will be his downfall
Soa has always been on top of Mayans. Ez wants his legacy to be the change
@@Ronruk hey how did that work out lmao theyre all dead now except angel
Whereas SOA used Hamlet as the template for its storyline, Mayans is definitely based on MacBeth. EZ is going to fall and fall hard in the end. This series will end badly.
Yeah he probably will fall in the end but I hope he go's out saving angels live thus giving him a little redemption but I don't know what will happen yet plus they haven't said how many seasons there doing so It will be a while before we find out what happens to him
Fascinating. Do you know any direct correlations in particular Mayans had with Macbeth? I'm not familiar with Macbeth at all.
No Mayans is clearly based off of The Godfather. Especially since the scene following this video is refernce to The Godfather.
I see a big truck in his future
Looking back, you were right. Only three people got out safely. Two of them had a "happy ending". The others? Well.......
After all these years, seeing this actor with his calm acting style, it was intense watching him finally snap, even though it was for only for 2 seconds. I was watching this scene silent as hell lol
Man, they had EZ wilding out this season though. That was a hell of a heel turn lol
The level of disrespect Season five Is it going to be crazy I believe a lot of people are going to die
I’m glad padrino left. It’s all going to go downhill from here. No way the Mayans win a war against the Sons they’re out numbered Alvarez said it himself. They even have the feds looking into them now. EZ needs to change his mindset and the way he wants to run this club or he’s going to cause a lot of damage to the mc.
Thing is Alvarez is turning into Jax, trying to get the club out of deals and activities that will get them all killed. Problem is the club didn't respect Alvarez' decisions like how SOA respected Jax '
Yeah I hope your right i do prefer the sons but what will probably happen to keep things going on longer is that the Mexican cartel will keep helping the mayans with the war
I reckon Mayan’s loyal to Alvarez will team up with the SOA to take out EZ.
Something tells me he's gonna become a Son, that be pretty sick and the irony of it too
Damn dude… Marcus got swept under the rug, Santo Padre really is poison at this point
After he done spared EZ’s life when Miguel ordered to kill him tooo
Jax vs clay we got son killing father are we gonna get the opposite here father killing son since they preluded it earlier or just the most obvious rout brother killing brother killing brother since there are three. Angel avenging ez riding off into the sun set. Didn't see the packer son twist either. How would Taza of voted on the kill switch.
EZ is like Avon Barksdale. A leader/soldier you want when you have to go to war. Only issue is if there even needs to be one.
Hell nahh he's like marlo, killing and removing is oppositions
@@blackwalker1988 Exactly EZ... Is win by any means necessary.. Like Marlo... Totally opposite of Marlo..
Thing is all of Santo padre are thinking of coco and they’re not using their heads. Alvarez knows why the war started but the others won’t listen. He knows this won’t end well but they wanna war then so be it. But don’t expect Alvarez to save them this time.
Bishop was the only one to look Marcus right to his eyes, everyone else simply looked down
I see season four as the rise of EZ he gets promoted too quickly and within a short amount of time he already making moves that will either land him or his brother Angel in the grave. SE 1-2 he’s a prospect SE 3 he’s a full patch and SE 4 he was VP and now President, he brought back the kill-switch clause to remove Canche or Bishop but it would turn on Alvarez. Who is right here? Alvarez or EZ?
I see the heartbreak and the feeling of betrayal in Alvarez eyes, I feel for him more than I do for EZ
I like seeing padrino as a president... I wanted Manny to stay longer.
Ran out of ideas? Seems it heading for the chopping block. And EZs a fuckin rat, now he's running the club?
Man when I saw this I felt like Padme from Star Wars. EZ going down a path that I can’t follow. Broke my heart he betrayed the man who saw him as wise and smart as well as not giving JJ family the money regardless after his wife came to EZs trailer.
"YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME "?!?!
@@flacko001 YOUVE DONE THAT YOURSELF!!!!
I feel like EZ is turning into a monster and is gonna turn the charter upside down. His mind isn’t where it should be.
like cancer guy went from q single cell to a tumor.
EZ becomes the monster he knew he was all along
0:38 bishop might already be regretting voting his primo/president out. Cuz even if they don't see eye to eye this season he doesn't forget he was the founder of the club
I thought he said "I sacrificed my nikka C" lol... dont mind me tho, great scene
Alvarez giving EZ the bylaws was the worst thing he could've done and not just in this instance.
So EZ was worried about Angel son growing up looking at his pops from inside a mirror on prison but not worried about his son growing up not being able to see him at all if he dies huh... Smh
This is a nightmare Alvarez is right he won't be there to watch Santo Padre burn while they go to war with the sons Bcus of ez
Well since EZ is so confident... He better be right about all this(Going to be hard proving a point to Padrino).. And Miguel burning the factory down(finding out EZ and Angel are his brothers)..... MMMMMhhhhmmmm Fishy....... Seems he wants to rebuild his Galindo Cartel again...... There are so many questions....
I was cold dude
I remember Chase Vian saying somthing similar when Flin came to ask him to save Nassa
That gavel didn't feel like a good fit in EZs hand. Dude has less tenure than anyone at the table.
Marcus said ez was the future and this is ez letting Marcus know that he's the past.
That is disappointing…especially after he saved them all….
What if Marcus said “I’m happy I won’t be here to see it burn” Means he called Happy and told him to go burn the warehouse full of heroin to get back at the club??? Just a thought hah
Angel and Alvarez will fix things next season. EZ will get everyone killed.
Fix what?? The club is already fucked up and it’s EZ trying to rebuild them
@@Ronruk by having a war with the sons and getting involved with lobo and their drugs? Yeah that’s going to rebuild them alright.
@@JRboy23 bro the war with the sons is inevitable, EZ is trying to make sure they win. EZ getting control of the pipeline will make Santo padre a powerhouse which would make all the charters come together as one club with one king.
@@Ronruk The Mayans don’t have a chance against the Sons padrino said it himself. Especially with EZ at the head of the table now. He doesn’t know how to lead nor plan. He only wants to kill and has no consideration for anything or anyone. The drugs that were going to fund the war is all destroyed now and with that things will only get worse.
@@Ronruk I agree. Alvarez was just trying to pretend a war wasn't already happening. They tried to kill your VP and you just want to let the shit go?
Part of the game this a new era Padrino
EZ is the informant for the the feds.
Is marcus going back to oakland charter or what? I didnt get whats going on
I guess from the final scene of him parking his bike in the garage and leaving his kutte, He’s probably retiring from the Club unless he comes back
Fook Santo padre, did my boi Marcus dirty
And look what happened 😂😂😂
EZ becoming a Tony Montana
To be honest. I laugh so hard when see ez becomes president. He doesnt have quality. He is joke.
Same here. Justbdoesnt suit him
Agreed…. EZ thinks he’s too smart
Cuz it will always burn with ambitious ideas?
This is the beginning of their downfall. I feel that season 5 is probably gonna be their final season.
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EZ HAS TO MAKE THIS WORK
AND PADRINO IS IN THE WAY
I LIKE WHO EZ IS BECOMING
TAKING INITIATIVE. HE HAS TO FIND AWAY OR DROWN. CAN'T WAIT TELL NEXT TIME😑
Alvarez saves EZ than EZ uses Bishop to take the crown for himself...I honestly hope EZ gets what's coming to him, sad part is his blood family and the MC will be caught in the crossfire because of ambition
can someone help me here does this mean that alvarez gets kicked from the club or just demoted?
Kicked from the club he is no longer padrino no longer the god father he is no longer a Mayan he said it himself he built the club but he is happy and relieved that he won't be able to watch it burn and he was not talking about Santo padre he was talking about the intire club itself meaning all charters
@@OutdawayMP imo that is just stupid this whole season has just been boring the only person with morals you can get behind in the whole show is gilly and thats litterly it
@@beadymusician6485 Hank and creeper are good dudes.
@@beadymusician6485 ya the club stuff is interesting but most of the time it was focused on side characters like Emily and el banaro or who ever he is like I wanna see Mayans if I wanted to see business men the intire show I would watch 2 in a half men
He kept his jacket thing so he must be out in good standing
How do you they not take into account the other chargers want them dead it’s only because of Marcus they haven’t done it and the cartels deal is only with with Marcus so without him they have no deal and the other charters want Santo Padre out and they haven’t realized it’s Sanyo padre fault that they are going to war
These guys think they can do a better job than Alvarez, let’s see them try! They won’t last in my opinion.
alverez was the only true mayan in that room ,everyone else is just poison
This some Darth Vader vs obi wan
Alvarez vs ez
Hank boted yes so he can keep Alvarez in the loop. EZ following Jax's end. Writers can write this any way.
Yea angel will probably take out ez in the end
Lol Ez bout to get people killed per usual
Damn EZ has to go imo.
Yeah he's out of control, Alvarez is right the club is gonna burn
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 like it’s already been burning from the jump?? Nah EZ is going to make them a powerhouse
Alvares shouldve asked who killed Montez or tell them the reason why they are at war. Ez is blinded by the flash just Jax was with President flash
Agree! If Alvarez had say something about montez things might turn around..
Damn alvarez did get soft, he should of put santo padre back on their knees and demand answers for montez body instead he politics with them and gets outed smh
Y’all forgot Alvarez killed his own son in sons of anarchy
Nobody forgot, they literally reminded us in Season 4.
This charter will die. Marcus tried to save them but EZ sent them into a suicide mission
This is the beginning of the end for EZ I see his death then end of next season by either angel or his dad
This season was clown shoes.
the fires coming soa> mayans
He was soft get him out lame
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I don’t know if it’s just me but I see at the end of mayans EZ will get locked up and turn informant I don’t think he will get the pleasure of dying for his deeds. Jax death was merciful cause he lost it all and he knew he was wrong to the core but EZ’s whole ascension has been tyrannical his downfall will be the end of the club altogether
Nah he’s not a snitch clearly
What’s gonna happen is brother against brother .