This is why you have to research things yourself and don’t listen to other people with “expert” advice. The max load on the stock dually tires for a Ram 3500 is 2835 pounds per tire for the dually configuration (117 E). Every tire you showed in that chart in the video exceeds that load. So you could have gotten the correct fitting tires so you didn’t have that odd gap between your rear tires because they would have been enough to exceed the max load of the stock dually tires (per tire) that Ram provides and support the max payload of your dually when combined in a dually configuration as they are on your truck. I want to add, what you’re discussing (max tire pressure load) doesn’t affect your tow rating. The tow rating is how much your truck can pull. The max pressure load rating of the tires affects your payload support. How much payload you can safely put on the tires, which is its max. Adding larger tires does cause loss of tow rating, but that is a different issue than max load pressure you’re discussing. When adding larger tires, you should add shorter gears to bring your tow rating back to the factory rating. For the 295/65R20 you have, if you have 3.73 gears you would need to upgrade to 4.10 gears to maintain factory tow capacity and if you have 4.10 gears, you would need to upgrade to 4.56 gears to maintain the factory tow rating. If you don’t change the gears you’ll lose a few thousand pounds of tow capacity going from stock tires to the larger tires. The larger tires and rims will also lessen your trucks payload capacity since they will be heavier than the stock wheels. So you should have your empty truck (minus any people) but with a full tank of gas and full fluids, weighed on a Cat Scale at a truck stop to find your available payload (to do this, minus what your truck weighs from the GVWR on your door jamb sticker) so you don’t overload your payload when towing or loading your truck, thinking you have the full payload capacity of the truck listed on the door jamb sticker when you won’t. Going back to the tire size and max load pressure, this is what the Tire Pressure website says about the max load for the stock tires for the dually configuration (117 E) that a Ram 3500 dually comes with (the max pressure of the stock tires is less than you would have with any tire from that list in the video): “LT235/80R17/E 120/117 tire with load range E and load index of 120 has a maximum single tire load capacity of 3085 lbs @ 80 psi, capable of supporting up to 3085 pounds or 1399 kilograms, while dual tire application with load index of 117 has a maximum dual tire load capacity of 2835 lbs @ 80 psi, capable of supporting up to 2835 pounds or 1286 kilograms when inflated to its maximum air pressure of 80 pounds per square inch (psi) or 552 kilopascals (kPa).”
Thanks for the details. So if I am happy enough with the tow and weight ratings capability of the larger tires, kept the same gear ratio, then in theory at least the mileage would increase a little bit? Thanks
I had these same tires on my 2019 Ram dually. they lasted 31,000 miles and started falling apart. Just yesterday mounted some Coopers. Hope I get more miles out of them!
Unless your going off-road A LOT. the ridge grappler just isn’t a good tire for an HD imo. I prefer the terra-grappler G2. A much better road tire with moderate off-road capability, has longer road life, And is way quieter on the highway. Also still looks good Edit: you can also get the 35 in a 12 ply
hell, comin up my driveway is offroadin so i had to have something somewhat aggressive haha. these are 10x better than my 40x15.5x22 nitto mud grapplers i was used to so i can't complain. thanks for watchin again man. - Magdump
One sexy beast you have there!!! I have the same truck in the same color. Thank you for the video. I love the look and will most likely do the same tire and wheel set up. Different lift but solid looking truck. I am getting the truck PPF done in a few weeks and from what I have been told by everyone is, it is worth every penny.
That is one bad ass looking truck. I love the MegaCab dually. I have a 21 LongHorn Ltd MegaCab SRW w the HO Cummins, completely stock. Love it but wish the blackout was an option. Best truck on the highway IMO. I enjoy your videos.
great looking truck , i put 24s on my 2022 3500 dually and my mileage went down about 5 miles per gallon and mu speedometer is off by 7 miles . do you have the same issue ? or any suggestions how to fix this problem ?
hey, thanks for watchin. check out this video on our channel about calibrating your speedometer for your new tire/wheel setup. hope this helps! - Magdump
Thanks man. They’re actually OEM from the dealership believe it or not. We wrapped the stock plate at the bottom with black vinyl and did a reflective decal overlay. Thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe for more! - Magdump
I have 2023 Ram 3500 Limited DRW HO 6.7 , Aisin Trans, 4.1 Gear with black out package. I had full body Suntek PPF and Ceramic coating plus nano ceramic tint for interior including the windshield. Yes, I spent little over 8k total. I think it is worth it.. In 3-5 years, i will be able to tell more but for the moment, I don't have the single rock chips and my paint will not fade in 5-10 years. Downside on PPF is that in about 8-10 year time, you need to take them off, otherwise, it will be very difficult to get them off.
Nice video, love seeing the build come together. I have PPF on my existing truck and will be adding it to the one I have on order. It is absolutely worth having done if you are concerned with paint chips. Also, it's quite a bit less than $7k - unless you are doing the entire vehicle, which isn't typically needed. You can do the front (entire front end, a-pillars, headlights, etc.) and the dually hips with a hi quality PPF for about $2500.
that's an awesome suggestion. thanks david. i appreciate the input and information. new video droppin today. hope you'll check it out. thanks for watchin! - Magdump
I spent around 8k for the whole vehicle/windshield/tint/headlight for my 2023 3500 Limited DRW HO6.7 Night Edition 4.1 Gear. It is good, work quality was B level, and bit overpriced.. It is easier to wash with PPF on entire car. And if you keep your truck for long time, color will fade in the same all the way around.
I have the same truck in black. A quote from my ppf guy with xpel ultimate is around 10k. I had the entire front facia done and headlights for about 1200 dollars. Had the front portion of the rear fenders done for 1000. Worth it. A couple months prior I had my jlur diesel entirely wrapped in xpel stealth so I couldn't afford to get the entire truck wrapped. Overall, it's worth it if your wrap guy is good.
almost 2 years in now and zero reliability issues. *knock on wood* just basic maintenance so far. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
this man makes a great point. it's on the list haha. sounds like a pain in the ass to get done but eventually i think im gonna send it. thanks for the suggestion man. - Magdump
Hey Zac, i got them after the mudflaps and i'm still getting rock chips tbh. apparently ppf and nerf bars/steps that stay extended out is the way to go. i live off a dirt road though so not much i can do to fully avoid it haha. thanks for watchin man. - Magdump
@@MuddyThrottleOutdoors Your not pointing up in the front? I ordered the 1.75” thuren and I’ll put a block on the back to level it out. I only have 1/2” difference front vs. back sitting stock.
Not at all surprisingly. Sittin dead level. Slightest squat pullin my loaded down 24ft trailer. These trucks are kinda all over the place. Definitely best to measure up and figure it out for your own truck than trust anyone else’s measurements. Congrats on your order! - Magdump
Hey David, thanks for watchin. No wheel spacers. It sits at 107” wide with the -223 offset on the hostile wheels. Plenty more to come on this truck so make sure to hit the 🔔. Thanks again 🍻 - Magdump
they come as a set basically. but you can also piece a set up together if you're lookin for somethign different. i chose to keep it pretty simple. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
I’m sure you know this, but I have a 2500 with 35” tires and my tow rating stayed the same because I went with the “F” rated tire which has the same load rated index of my OE tires of 125. Of course I don’t have the 3500 (which I will be buying next year when mine is paid off) so it could be different than the 2500 I guess. Just throwing that out there in case anyone who watches this wasn’t aware.
@@wreckitmech306 I had the Toyo open country R/T on mine and got awesome mileage out of them. Close to 50k miles. However, when it was time to change them out, I started researching and researching because at that time, I couldn’t afford another $1600 or more for tires. After researching for almost a month, I found a tire that they say is the next up and coming Nitto/Toyo comparison tire and it was $900 for all 4. It’s the Kenda Klever R/T. At 4k miles, so far so good. I’m praying I didn’t make a mistake lol. But if I did, I’ll definitely go back to a nitto or Toyo.
@@HumorousHearsay Thats not a bad idea. With Toyo and Nitto being the same manufacturer, I'm not worried between the 2. I did try the BF Goodrich K02's first and they just couldn't handle the weight of the truck un-loaded. I never felt comfortable with them to tow, tbh. I'm happy with my Nitto's but I definitely agree on cost. I hope to hear good things about Kenda down the road
check out GoRecon for the smoked fender lights! thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
I am wanting 24's on my 3rd gen as well and I would like the nitto ridge grappler but all of those are available in 4 sizes. 315/45 and 50 then 37/13.5 and 38/13.5 which I do not want to go 37 or 38.
I have the same truck, same wheels, same tires. I ended up getting the duraflap 13” mud flaps up front and 22” rears. I am getting the a full PPF for $1600 10mm thick. Trying to avoid those damn rock chip. This truck rocks though!
$7k for PPF!? I got Suntek PPF on the entire front, a strip on the front of the roof and all the way down the sides of my 22 3500 long bed for a little over $2k. It makes a big difference, I had more rock chips than I could count in a couple months even with rokblokz xl flaps.
they're actually factory on the rear, i just vinyl wrapped the metal plate believe it or not haha. the front are husky mud guard liners. thanks for watchin! we appreciate ya. - Magdump
Just found your channel, I have the same truck in delmonico red. You should check out the baja designs fog light and bar kit, it's one of the best things I've done to my truck
hey duke! great choice man. i almost went with delmonico red. such a great color. i'll definitely check out them lights. thanks for watchin man. just dropped a new video today if you wanna check it out. thanks for watchin! - Magdump
very good point! love the megacab, but yea sometimes it'd be nice to have an 8' bed. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
This is why you have to research things yourself and don’t listen to other people with “expert” advice. The max load on the stock dually tires for a Ram 3500 is 2835 pounds per tire for the dually configuration (117 E). Every tire you showed in that chart in the video exceeds that load. So you could have gotten the correct fitting tires so you didn’t have that odd gap between your rear tires because they would have been enough to exceed the max load of the stock dually tires (per tire) that Ram provides and support the max payload of your dually when combined in a dually configuration as they are on your truck.
I want to add, what you’re discussing (max tire pressure load) doesn’t affect your tow rating. The tow rating is how much your truck can pull. The max pressure load rating of the tires affects your payload support. How much payload you can safely put on the tires, which is its max. Adding larger tires does cause loss of tow rating, but that is a different issue than max load pressure you’re discussing.
When adding larger tires, you should add shorter gears to bring your tow rating back to the factory rating. For the 295/65R20 you have, if you have 3.73 gears you would need to upgrade to 4.10 gears to maintain factory tow capacity and if you have 4.10 gears, you would need to upgrade to 4.56 gears to maintain the factory tow rating. If you don’t change the gears you’ll lose a few thousand pounds of tow capacity going from stock tires to the larger tires. The larger tires and rims will also lessen your trucks payload capacity since they will be heavier than the stock wheels. So you should have your empty truck (minus any people) but with a full tank of gas and full fluids, weighed on a Cat Scale at a truck stop to find your available payload (to do this, minus what your truck weighs from the GVWR on your door jamb sticker) so you don’t overload your payload when towing or loading your truck, thinking you have the full payload capacity of the truck listed on the door jamb sticker when you won’t.
Going back to the tire size and max load pressure, this is what the Tire Pressure website says about the max load for the stock tires for the dually configuration (117 E) that a Ram 3500 dually comes with (the max pressure of the stock tires is less than you would have with any tire from that list in the video):
“LT235/80R17/E 120/117 tire with load range E and load index of 120 has a maximum single tire load capacity of 3085 lbs @ 80 psi, capable of supporting up to 3085 pounds or 1399 kilograms, while dual tire application with load index of 117 has a maximum dual tire load capacity of 2835 lbs @ 80 psi, capable of supporting up to 2835 pounds or 1286 kilograms when inflated to its maximum air pressure of 80 pounds per square inch (psi) or 552 kilopascals (kPa).”
Thanks for the details. So if I am happy enough with the tow and weight ratings capability of the larger tires, kept the same gear ratio, then in theory at least the mileage would increase a little bit? Thanks
I had these same tires on my 2019 Ram dually. they lasted 31,000 miles and started falling apart. Just yesterday mounted some Coopers. Hope I get more miles out of them!
Unless your going off-road A LOT. the ridge grappler just isn’t a good tire for an HD imo. I prefer the terra-grappler G2. A much better road tire with moderate off-road capability, has longer road life, And is way quieter on the highway. Also still looks good
Edit: you can also get the 35 in a 12 ply
hell, comin up my driveway is offroadin so i had to have something somewhat aggressive haha. these are 10x better than my 40x15.5x22 nitto mud grapplers i was used to so i can't complain. thanks for watchin again man. - Magdump
One sexy beast you have there!!! I have the same truck in the same color. Thank you for the video. I love the look and will most likely do the same tire and wheel set up. Different lift but solid looking truck. I am getting the truck PPF done in a few weeks and from what I have been told by everyone is, it is worth every penny.
Thanks man and I agree. Definitely worth it. Thanks for watchin and hope your rig has been treatin ya good - Magdump
That is one bad ass looking truck. I love the MegaCab dually. I have a 21 LongHorn Ltd MegaCab SRW w the HO Cummins, completely stock. Love it but wish the blackout was an option. Best truck on the highway IMO. I enjoy your videos.
Thanks for watchin man. We’re Fixin to get back into dropping new videos. Hope your 21 has been treatin ya right! - Magdump
great looking truck , i put 24s on my 2022 3500 dually and my mileage went down about 5 miles per gallon and mu speedometer is off by 7 miles . do you have the same issue ? or any suggestions how to fix this problem ?
hey, thanks for watchin. check out this video on our channel about calibrating your speedometer for your new tire/wheel setup. hope this helps! - Magdump
Talk to me about those mud flaps. They look great, but do they work with the huge rear offset? What brand and size please.
Thanks man. They’re actually OEM from the dealership believe it or not. We wrapped the stock plate at the bottom with black vinyl and did a reflective decal overlay. Thanks for watching. Make sure to subscribe for more! - Magdump
I have 2023 Ram 3500 Limited DRW HO 6.7 , Aisin Trans, 4.1 Gear with black out package. I had full body Suntek PPF and Ceramic coating plus nano ceramic tint for interior including the windshield. Yes, I spent little over 8k total. I think it is worth it.. In 3-5 years, i will be able to tell more but for the moment, I don't have the single rock chips and my paint will not fade in 5-10 years. Downside on PPF is that in about 8-10 year time, you need to take them off, otherwise, it will be very difficult to get them off.
I think I would try a clear body wrap to minimize the rock chips. That’s a beautiful truck.
Nice video, love seeing the build come together. I have PPF on my existing truck and will be adding it to the one I have on order. It is absolutely worth having done if you are concerned with paint chips. Also, it's quite a bit less than $7k - unless you are doing the entire vehicle, which isn't typically needed. You can do the front (entire front end, a-pillars, headlights, etc.) and the dually hips with a hi quality PPF for about $2500.
that's an awesome suggestion. thanks david. i appreciate the input and information. new video droppin today. hope you'll check it out. thanks for watchin! - Magdump
I spent around 8k for the whole vehicle/windshield/tint/headlight for my 2023 3500 Limited DRW HO6.7 Night Edition 4.1 Gear. It is good, work quality was B level, and bit overpriced.. It is easier to wash with PPF on entire car. And if you keep your truck for long time, color will fade in the same all the way around.
That’s a sick build
Thanks for watchin man! Stop by the channel and check out our other videos. 🤘🏼 Preciate ya. - Magdump
I have the same truck in black. A quote from my ppf guy with xpel ultimate is around 10k. I had the entire front facia done and headlights for about 1200 dollars. Had the front portion of the rear fenders done for 1000. Worth it. A couple months prior I had my jlur diesel entirely wrapped in xpel stealth so I couldn't afford to get the entire truck wrapped. Overall, it's worth it if your wrap guy is good.
About to pull the trigger on a ‘22 3500. Have you or anyone else had any reliability issues? Thanks.
almost 2 years in now and zero reliability issues. *knock on wood* just basic maintenance so far. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
Nice truck! I have the same one. I was wonder with the leveling kit and the new wheels and tires what does this raise the height of the tailgate to?
Those rock chips would be a good excuse to throw some front fender flares off the 4500’s on that baby 👀
this man makes a great point. it's on the list haha. sounds like a pain in the ass to get done but eventually i think im gonna send it. thanks for the suggestion man. - Magdump
Did you get the rock chips before or after you put the mud flaps on? I have the same truck and going with the same setup. Any tips you got for me?
Hey Zac, i got them after the mudflaps and i'm still getting rock chips tbh. apparently ppf and nerf bars/steps that stay extended out is the way to go. i live off a dirt road though so not much i can do to fully avoid it haha. thanks for watchin man. - Magdump
@@MuddyThrottleOutdoors Can you tell me what size level you have and if you put a block on the back?
Hey Zac, no block on the rear bud. Just a 2.25” on the front with the king 2.0s. Hope that helps! - Magdump
@@MuddyThrottleOutdoors Your not pointing up in the front? I ordered the 1.75” thuren and I’ll put a block on the back to level it out. I only have 1/2” difference front vs. back sitting stock.
Not at all surprisingly. Sittin dead level. Slightest squat pullin my loaded down 24ft trailer. These trucks are kinda all over the place. Definitely best to measure up and figure it out for your own truck than trust anyone else’s measurements. Congrats on your order! - Magdump
Are you running spacers on your rear wheels? If so, what's the width?
Hey David, thanks for watchin. No wheel spacers. It sits at 107” wide with the -223 offset on the hostile wheels. Plenty more to come on this truck so make sure to hit the 🔔. Thanks again 🍻 - Magdump
When you buy a set of wheels for a dually do they come as a full set or do you have to buy 2 for the front and a matching set of 2 for the back
they come as a set basically. but you can also piece a set up together if you're lookin for somethign different. i chose to keep it pretty simple. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
I’m sure you know this, but I have a 2500 with 35” tires and my tow rating stayed the same because I went with the “F” rated tire which has the same load rated index of my OE tires of 125. Of course I don’t have the 3500 (which I will be buying next year when mine is paid off) so it could be different than the 2500 I guess. Just throwing that out there in case anyone who watches this wasn’t aware.
It's why I have them on my 3500. 35x12.5R20 F Rated. My mechanic swears by RidgeGrappler's on these trucks.
@@wreckitmech306 I had the Toyo open country R/T on mine and got awesome mileage out of them. Close to 50k miles. However, when it was time to change them out, I started researching and researching because at that time, I couldn’t afford another $1600 or more for tires. After researching for almost a month, I found a tire that they say is the next up and coming Nitto/Toyo comparison tire and it was $900 for all 4. It’s the Kenda Klever R/T. At 4k miles, so far so good. I’m praying I didn’t make a mistake lol. But if I did, I’ll definitely go back to a nitto or Toyo.
@@HumorousHearsay Thats not a bad idea. With Toyo and Nitto being the same manufacturer, I'm not worried between the 2. I did try the BF Goodrich K02's first and they just couldn't handle the weight of the truck un-loaded. I never felt comfortable with them to tow, tbh.
I'm happy with my Nitto's but I definitely agree on cost. I hope to hear good things about Kenda down the road
thanks for sharing chris! any info is definitely appreciated. that's what makes this community so great. - Magdump
@@wreckitmech306 thanks for sharing man! good to know about the K02's. we appreciate ya watchin. new video today! - Magdump
What mud flaps you running
Wicked truck!!
thanks for the kind words bennie. we appreciate ya watchin! stay tuned for more! - Magdump
What mudflaps are you running
OEM from the dealer my man. Thanks for watchin - Magdump
Nice rig
Thanks Markus. Preciate you watching! Hope you’ll stop by the channel and check out our other videos 🤘🏼 - Magdump
Where did you get the smoked fender lights
check out GoRecon for the smoked fender lights! thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
What brand rear mud flaps are those?
they're actually oem ones from the dealer that I vinyl wrapped myself - Magdump
How do you make the daytime running lights flash?
It’s doing that cause of the camera lens
i see khaled already answered this but yea, just the frame rate and how LEDs come out on video. thanks for watchin stephen! - Magdump
I am wanting 24's on my 3rd gen as well and I would like the nitto ridge grappler but all of those are available in 4 sizes. 315/45 and 50 then 37/13.5 and 38/13.5 which I do not want to go 37 or 38.
I have the same truck, same wheels, same tires. I ended up getting the duraflap 13” mud flaps up front and 22” rears. I am getting the a full PPF for $1600 10mm thick. Trying to avoid those damn rock chip. This truck rocks though!
Damn $1600 only for full ppf? Where you gettin that deal?! - Magdump
Sweet truck I want a new pickup truck my self ram mega cab but with the 8 foot bed. It will be one hell of a truck
hell yea michael. sounds like it'll be a badass rig! hope you can git er done man. thanks for watchin! new video today. - Magdump
@@MuddyThrottleOutdoors Hey man, can you tell me what level kit you have 2.5”? Any blocks in the rear?
Unfortunately can only get the 6’4” bed with the MegaCab. A MC with a 8’ bed would be one long truck.
$7k for PPF!? I got Suntek PPF on the entire front, a strip on the front of the roof and all the way down the sides of my 22 3500 long bed for a little over $2k. It makes a big difference, I had more rock chips than I could count in a couple months even with rokblokz xl flaps.
thanks for the tip brandon! definitely thinkin about ppf. i got so many rock chips already lol. we appreciate ya watchin! - Magdump
Where did you get those mud flaps
they're actually factory on the rear, i just vinyl wrapped the metal plate believe it or not haha. the front are husky mud guard liners. thanks for watchin! we appreciate ya. - Magdump
Just found your channel, I have the same truck in delmonico red. You should check out the baja designs fog light and bar kit, it's one of the best things I've done to my truck
hey duke! great choice man. i almost went with delmonico red. such a great color. i'll definitely check out them lights. thanks for watchin man. just dropped a new video today if you wanna check it out. thanks for watchin! - Magdump
What kind of mud flaps are those?
hey johnathan, they're actually stock from the dealership. i just wrapped em. thanks for watchin! - Magdump
Baddass truck 👍👍🇺🇸
Thanks Lyndon. Preciate it man. Hope you’ll check out the channel for some videos. 🤘🏼 - Magdump
Pretty sure a 12.50 x 35" Ridge Grapplers come in an E rated tire....you're comparing it with an F rated tire....
Yessuh 💪🏾
thanks for watchin man! i appreciate the comment. new video today! lmk what you think - Magdump
Very nice
thanks man! hope you been doin good! we need to ride this fall! - Magdump
You should have ran a super single on the front
Might have to switch it up. Thanks for watchin man! - Magdump
skinnie's face 😆
lol had to do it. - Magdump
I would consider a mega cab if Ram didn't limit you to a 6'4" bed.
very good point! love the megacab, but yea sometimes it'd be nice to have an 8' bed. thanks for watchin. hope you'll stop by the channel and check out some of our other videos. holler at us in the comments! - Magdump
If u no anything about trucks most truck make there money back fast aka surve there perpose
yessir. i appreciate the input ray! thanks for watchin. got a new video droppin today! - Magdump
O'Connell Motorway
🎉❤❤❤❤🎉😅😅
thanks for watchin! - Magdump
6 ft beds on dualies look ridiculous 😂