****1 Corinthians 15:11**** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Thanks for the comment. We both know that Mid Acts Dispensationalism is a doctrine of devils that distorts the clear teaching of Scripture, leads to confusion and division, and exalts human intellect and pride over the simplicity of the Gospel. Those who embrace this false doctrine are willfully rejecting the truth, opening themselves up to deeper spiritual deception. As believers, we must remain vigilant and grounded in the Word of God. The Bible warns us to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). We must test every doctrine against the full counsel of Scripture and reject any teaching that does not align with the truth of God’s Word. Mid Acts Dispensationalism, for all its claims of being "biblical," does not pass that test.
How did the jews properly worship the LORD, (according to lv16) after returning from exile, specifically on the day of atonement when, for many scholars, there was no Arc of the covenant
I think for God it always was a matter of heart. He KNOWS when sth is lacking (on purpose) and TODAY we don't look back on Jewish customs and tradition.
Most people totally misuse the idiom "rightly dividing the word." To rightly divide was a farming term. When a farmer needed to plow through new or tough ground, he would sight an object in the distance. The object had to be known, sure, and unmoving. As he plowed through each row, he made sure that what he was doing *lined up* with what he knew to be solid and sure. When we encounter new or difficult passages, we must make sure that our understanding LINES UP with the parts that we already know and are clear and sure. Never did it mean to split the Bible into "ours and theirs." God does *not* divide his followers into a caste system!
Read it carefully. He is NOT saying that there is a "Circumcision Gospel!" That is an absurd idea! He is saying that HE (Paul) was called to preach THE GOSPEL to the uncircumcised people, that is, gentiles. While other are called to preach THE GOSPEL to those who were circumcised (Jews.)
@@Pezint Gospel means "good news." The Gospel taught in the OT was the Good News that those who were faithful to their God (faithfulness which is brought about by FAITH in YHVH/ I AM) would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a redeemed and perfected earth with their Messiah as KING. The gospel of the NT is that the Messiah came, the gentiles were grafted into the Congregation of the Elect (Ekklesia) and if they lived by faith in YHVH/I AM they would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a perfected. renewed earth with their savior. The Gospel of the kingdom is the Good News that there will be an eternal kingdom of perfection to those who receive their Messiah through FAITH by looking BACK to his sacrifice and forward to his coming. The Gospel for the Jews was the Good News that they would inherit the land of promise to those who belong to their Messiah through faith by looking forward to his coming.
@@Pezint I didn't leave it out. I was discussing soteriology rather than eschatology. Yes, there are 7 years, including the 3.5 after the Abomination of Desolation is set up. Daniel said that the "Rescue of all who are in the BOOK" comes AFTER the Michael stands (aside) and the Abomination is set up, triggering the Great Tribulation. Jesus said the elect will be gathered to Him AFTER the tribulation of those days. No, there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of a separate caste of believers called "tribulation saints" ALL believers were collectively called "Congregation of the Elect" and all *individual* members of the elect congregation are called saint, elect, servant, martyr, and brother or sister.
@@Pezint The grammar and context of Paul's letter show otherwise. The MYSTERY Paul revealed could *not* have been a pretrib escape from the planet for 3 important reasons: 1) The grammar shows that the object was not the rapture. I will show why soon. 2) To reveal a mystery it must be revealed. Paul never said that the rapture would be pretrib. In fact, he said that the return of the King AND (the Greek "kai" JOINS the two as one as in "My Lord AND (kai) my God) our gathering cannot come until after the Abomination is set up. If he never said there would be a pretrib rapture, he could not have been revealing it as a mystery. 3) To reveal a mystery, it must previously have been unknown until the revealing. The rescue was already told by Daniel and Jesus. But Paul did actually reveal a MYSTERY! It is clearly, overtly, blatantly spelled out for us: "Behold, I show you a mystery, WE SHALL NOT ALL DIE" (Note the sentence construction. Mystery. = not all die. details = But will be changed instantly. conclusion = Then we meet him in the air. THAT was NEW! Paul's letter is about death! Will the dead miss the chance to reign? Is the resurrection true? He went into detail about why death is necessary. Then he revealed the mystery: the ones who survive to the end will never die! The will be translated in a fraction of a second to immortal, perfected bodies and rise into the (GREEK AER = lower atmosphere, visible sky) to gather around Jesus who is returning with the resurrected saints. we greet and honor him, and return with him in a repeat of the "Palm Sunday" parade. NOTE the sentence construction: "Behold, I show you a mystery, WE SHALL NOT ALL DIE" (Note the sentence construction. Mystery. = not all die. details = But will be changed instantly. conclusion = Then we meet him in the air.
@@Pezint You are reading in more than is written. Paul DID handle a serpent. They all preached the gospel to the nations. They all faced tribulation. The saints again experienced tribulation during the inquisitions of Rome. But these show cyclic events. They are not THE GREAT TRIBULATION. What "Mystery" did Paul not reveal about the tribulation? The Tribulation is no mystery. The minute details are, but the event has been prophesied for centuries.
@@robusc4940 I refer to the error of the Scofield Dispensationalists in proposing a division in the people of God. God has one people, one Israel, the Church.
@@anselman3156Grace Ambass are 'midacts', I don't think Scofield was. There are many 'churches' throughout the OT & NT. The current 'church' is the Body of Christ and Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, 1 Cor 12:13 applies to anyone who places their faith/trust in the Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4 death/burial/resurrection of Christ for JUSTIFICATION.
Paul also wrote to Timothy "not to lay hands on quickly" (i.e. identify someone as a brother in Christ 1Tim5:22) and to "stay away from" people that show every feature of 2Tim3:1-7. He doesn't count THEM brothers but unbelievers, nominal Christians, false brethren. There's a LOT Paul has to say about those and he doesn't count them into the true Body of Christ apparently.
Regarding 2 tim 3:1-7 , we need to consider circumcision in Christ are teachers too: “For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:” Titus 1:10 KJV
*****1 Corinthians 15:11***** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCK you mean Paul’s gospel is also waiting for the great tribulation like that of Peter: “And I will shew wonders in heaven above, And signs in the earth beneath; Blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:” Acts 2:19 KJV
@@UponaROCK I do myself support Mid-Acts as a historical "cesura" but YES you're totally right with regards to DOCTRINAL teaching which doesn't conflict Paul with Peter or the other apostles at all (one is a historical matter, other is doctrinal). Logically speaking (and Justin seems to be a logical guy too), "WE" would then have to assume that Pauls epistles are NOT valid for any "Ex-Jewish" believer if there's a controversy vice versa. Makes no sense at all. I would call that "hyper Mid-Acts" which is also false like any "hyper" teaching. If you "hyper divide" scripture you will get a mash of some kind but not find better understanding. MARANATHA, greetings from Germany! 🙏❤️
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Greetings from Savannah, GA and thanks for the reply. Please explain the idea that a historical shift (or break) in God's plan happened around the time Paul began his ministry, which is roughly the middle of the Book of Acts?
You are an excellent teacher. If I wanted to follow your teachings which TH-cam video should I begin?
You can download his book Start Rightly Dividing for free.
The you and the law teaching is a good start.
****1 Corinthians 15:11**** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Thanks for the comment. We both know that Mid Acts Dispensationalism is a doctrine of devils that distorts the clear teaching of Scripture, leads to confusion and division, and exalts human intellect and pride over the simplicity of the Gospel. Those who embrace this false doctrine are willfully rejecting the truth, opening themselves up to deeper spiritual deception.
As believers, we must remain vigilant and grounded in the Word of God. The Bible warns us to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). We must test every doctrine against the full counsel of Scripture and reject any teaching that does not align with the truth of God’s Word. Mid Acts Dispensationalism, for all its claims of being "biblical," does not pass that test.
The fellowship of the mystery video from 4 years ago is what sold me.
Looking forward to you restarting your Romans Series.
Me to!
AMEN 🙏
How did the jews properly worship the LORD, (according to lv16) after returning from exile, specifically on the day of atonement when, for many scholars, there was no Arc of the covenant
I think for God it always was a matter of heart. He KNOWS when sth is lacking (on purpose) and TODAY we don't look back on Jewish customs and tradition.
Most people totally misuse the idiom "rightly dividing the word." To rightly divide was a farming term. When a farmer needed to plow through new or tough ground, he would sight an object in the distance. The object had to be known, sure, and unmoving. As he plowed through each row, he made sure that what he was doing *lined up* with what he knew to be solid and sure.
When we encounter new or difficult passages, we must make sure that our understanding LINES UP with the parts that we already know and are clear and sure.
Never did it mean to split the Bible into "ours and theirs."
God does *not* divide his followers into a caste system!
Read it carefully. He is NOT saying that there is a "Circumcision Gospel!" That is an absurd idea! He is saying that HE (Paul) was called to preach THE GOSPEL to the uncircumcised people, that is, gentiles.
While other are called to preach THE GOSPEL to those who were circumcised (Jews.)
@@Pezint Gospel means "good news." The Gospel taught in the OT was the Good News that those who were faithful to their God (faithfulness which is brought about by FAITH in YHVH/ I AM) would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a redeemed and perfected earth with their Messiah as KING.
The gospel of the NT is that the Messiah came, the gentiles were grafted into the Congregation of the Elect (Ekklesia) and if they lived by faith in YHVH/I AM they would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a perfected. renewed earth with their savior.
The Gospel of the kingdom is the Good News that there will be an eternal kingdom of perfection to those who receive their Messiah through FAITH by looking BACK to his sacrifice and forward to his coming.
The Gospel for the Jews was the Good News that they would inherit the land of promise to those who belong to their Messiah through faith by looking forward to his coming.
@@Pezint I didn't leave it out. I was discussing soteriology rather than eschatology.
Yes, there are 7 years, including the 3.5 after the Abomination of Desolation is set up.
Daniel said that the "Rescue of all who are in the BOOK" comes AFTER the Michael stands (aside) and the Abomination is set up, triggering the Great Tribulation. Jesus said the elect will be gathered to Him AFTER the tribulation of those days.
No, there is no mention anywhere in the Bible of a separate caste of believers called "tribulation saints"
ALL believers were collectively called "Congregation of the Elect" and all *individual* members of the elect congregation are called saint, elect, servant, martyr, and brother or sister.
@@Pezint The grammar and context of Paul's letter show otherwise.
The MYSTERY Paul revealed could *not* have been a pretrib escape from the planet for 3 important reasons:
1) The grammar shows that the object was not the rapture. I will show why soon.
2) To reveal a mystery it must be revealed. Paul never said that the rapture would be pretrib. In fact, he said that the return of the King AND (the Greek "kai" JOINS the two as one as in "My Lord AND (kai) my God) our gathering cannot come until after the Abomination is set up. If he never said there would be a pretrib rapture, he could not have been revealing it as a mystery.
3) To reveal a mystery, it must previously have been unknown until the revealing. The rescue was already told by Daniel and Jesus.
But Paul did actually reveal a MYSTERY! It is clearly, overtly, blatantly spelled out for us:
"Behold, I show you a mystery, WE SHALL NOT ALL DIE" (Note the sentence construction. Mystery. = not all die. details = But will be changed instantly. conclusion = Then we meet him in the air.
THAT was NEW! Paul's letter is about death! Will the dead miss the chance to reign? Is the resurrection true? He went into detail about why death is necessary.
Then he revealed the mystery: the ones who survive to the end will never die! The will be translated in a fraction of a second to immortal, perfected bodies and rise into the (GREEK AER = lower atmosphere, visible sky) to gather around Jesus who is returning with the resurrected saints. we greet and honor him, and return with him in a repeat of the "Palm Sunday" parade.
NOTE the sentence construction:
"Behold, I show you a mystery, WE SHALL NOT ALL DIE" (Note the sentence construction. Mystery. = not all die. details = But will be changed instantly. conclusion = Then we meet him in the air.
@@Pezint You are reading in more than is written.
Paul DID handle a serpent. They all preached the gospel to the nations. They all faced tribulation. The saints again experienced tribulation during the inquisitions of Rome. But these show cyclic events. They are not THE GREAT TRIBULATION.
What "Mystery" did Paul not reveal about the tribulation? The Tribulation is no mystery. The minute details are, but the event has been prophesied for centuries.
Wrongly dividing the people of God
What is wrong about his teachings ?
Name a point that you would like to discuss.
@@robusc4940 I refer to the error of the Scofield Dispensationalists in proposing a division in the people of God. God has one people, one Israel, the Church.
@@anselman3156Grace Ambass are 'midacts', I don't think Scofield was.
There are many 'churches' throughout the OT & NT.
The current 'church' is the Body of Christ and Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, 1 Cor 12:13 applies to anyone who places their faith/trust in the Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4 death/burial/resurrection of Christ for JUSTIFICATION.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Your posts elsewhere & this one BRILLIANTLY displays your ignorance
Makes me wonder that in 100 years what future right dividers may be correcting in our doctrines!
I don’t read or follow Scofield. But how about someone do a critique of your and your ministry? Or do you have everything right? I doubt it.
What part don't you agree with ?
Paul also wrote to Timothy "not to lay hands on quickly" (i.e. identify someone as a brother in Christ 1Tim5:22) and to "stay away from" people that show every feature of 2Tim3:1-7. He doesn't count THEM brothers but unbelievers, nominal Christians, false brethren. There's a LOT Paul has to say about those and he doesn't count them into the true Body of Christ apparently.
Regarding 2 tim 3:1-7 , we need to consider circumcision in Christ are teachers too:
“For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:”
Titus 1:10 KJV
*****1 Corinthians 15:11***** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCK you mean Paul’s gospel is also waiting for the great tribulation like that of Peter:
“And I will shew wonders in heaven above, And signs in the earth beneath; Blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:”
Acts 2:19 KJV
@@UponaROCK I do myself support Mid-Acts as a historical "cesura" but YES you're totally right with regards to DOCTRINAL teaching which doesn't conflict Paul with Peter or the other apostles at all (one is a historical matter, other is doctrinal). Logically speaking (and Justin seems to be a logical guy too), "WE" would then have to assume that Pauls epistles are NOT valid for any "Ex-Jewish" believer if there's a controversy vice versa. Makes no sense at all. I would call that "hyper Mid-Acts" which is also false like any "hyper" teaching. If you "hyper divide" scripture you will get a mash of some kind but not find better understanding. MARANATHA, greetings from Germany! 🙏❤️
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Greetings from Savannah, GA and thanks for the reply. Please explain the idea that a historical shift (or break) in God's plan happened around the time Paul began his ministry, which is roughly the middle of the Book of Acts?