Love Derek in shock, quietly looking for a path to the exit as the stories of complete insanity unfold. He knows he is trapped with two potentially dangerous lunatics but can't find an escape.
Did you feel it became more interesting for us viewers/listeners, when the dynamics changed from _over-adrenalised reminiscing_ , and more _discussion of stuff_ ?
can't believe we're getting this for free. loved not only listening but also watching this. you guys have definitely kept your inner child very much alive. kudos!
So cool to see Sam on this one! Loved hearing you guys talk about your time at Automobile and how awful Ann Arbor is for like 8 out of 12 months of the year 😂 I know the exact parking garage you mentioned and I can confirm that stairwell is still nasty to this day. Also learned that one of the Automobile staffers you mentioned is currently a coworker of mine -- what a small world! Great listening to this during work and thanks for creating such good radio like you folks do.
I'm like Derek with the starting. From childhood on i start any car while having the left foot on the clutch and the right on the brake. The reason will be differnt though. When i was 7 or 8 my dad mounted a "funny" new horn into the car and told me to switch on ignition. At that age i had not known that there were different stages to the key so i turned it too far. He was standing in front of the car while i did that, and the whole car made a leap forward and it almost hit him. Left an imprint in my brain. So as soon as he taught me to drive this was how is started cars since.And before i let my foot off the brake and clutch i check if it's not in gear. And then still i let off the clutch but stay on the brake. So if i am too stupid and forget the car might stall, but it won't jump forward. The clip with the tyre test was fun! (Winter tyres have their name for a reason)
I loved this episode! Its really just two of the most eclectic and hyperactive personalities I’ve seen vibing out and discussing long automotive history with each other. I can imagine how intensely afraid Sam must have been as a 25 year old fearing the loss of his future, since myself am a 25 year old worrying about whether or not there’s a future in this path too 😂 if they are doing another vid with em next week it’ll be great to watch!
The DNA of this episode runs back to Leon Mandell. These (very talented) clowns represent a quality of reporting and presenting that is becoming more rare by the day. My gratitude to Jean Lindamood Jennings for not killing them on any of the occasions she undoubtedly considered the act.
To me one of the greatest takeaways from this episode is the idea of " writing... not to be understood, but so that you can't be misunderstood." It's so simple and hearing it out loud, it's almost obvious; but it wasn't until Sam said the words that it dawned on me that every time I've wrote a letter, sent an email, or a text instead of calling or talking it was so that my words were succinct, verifiable, and without ambiguity. Otherwise, great exchange and I look forward to each new one. Please have Sam back again.
We need Sam to join the guys quarterly. We got an hour of, what must be potentially, 50 hours of great stories. And poor Derek sitting there like the new kid that got invited to sit at the cool kid table. Great episode!
Listening Jason complains about A² decades ago hits extra level of hard when currently on my way to grab some Zingerman Sandwichs before my UMich move out. A dedicated A²/Detroit episode in future?
Ya know, mentioning good eats, it suddenly dawns on me that that's the show that I've smelled influence from on y'all this entire time. Absolutely fantastic episode as always.
They say never meet your heroes but ... Jason, you are my automotive hero. Thank you for adding color to the black and white car culture that I grew up in. What is your hot take on a SH Subaru Forester manual?
I've transported and driven lots of very expensive cars for different work and yes I'm always relieved when the car is not my responsibility anymore. I was just asked to take a McLaren P1 from Connecticut to Florida a month or so ago and I quoted an extremely high rate because I wanted nothing to do with a car that just sold for $2,000,000. Funny thing is the only car I've ever put any damage on, that's not mine, was an almost new Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster. Luckily it was just scrape on the front fender from a wheel strap rubbing on it and the owner was a friend of mine.
Wait, my 2 favorite auto journalists started their careers together? This might be the greatest podcast ever. This trio needs to be a reoccurring segment.
This episode showed me that there are positions in automotive journalism that go beyond simply writing about the cars. How blind I was... When I write an Instagram post, a university paper, or am a part of a group assignment, I'm the person who then scours over every single detail and enjoys it! I would LOVE a position like that with one of the outlets. As someone who has spent their life doing their homework and loving cars, hearing Derek and Jason talk about what it's like to work in this industry (in a previous episode) felt somewhat discouraging. But that was my first reaction to their words, and it took a few replays to understand that it was just the honest truth behind their jobs. But now realising that there are other opportunities available in this field gives me some hope. I'll continue to work on getting my degree, honing my editing skills, and actually reaching out to an outlet in the hopes that someone might be interested in what I have to offer.
Never been allowed into a Ford GT. But when I bought a 1700 mile Honda S2000 in early 2005, the owner wanted to run the sale through the Ford dealer where he was buying a Mustang convertible to save sales tax. (His version was wanting a back seat for the kids. Mine was that he thought the Honda was a cramped, noisy, hard riding nightmare - all pluses for me.) The dealer had a Ford GT on the floor and while they were messing with the paper work I spend my time ogling it. At the first glance, the words "Dan Gurney" just popped into my mind.
It’s kinda funny, as a UM alum I know about all the streets, bars, parking garages, etc that you’re talking about. It was a great place to spend 4 years
I used to always leave my cars in gear, until someone left their suv un neutral, without the handbrake on the top of a hill. The car rolled, hit my car, moved it around 7 meters, and wreked the gearbox from the hit.
When you're driving the expensive machinery it is just a car. It is when you get in and out that is the worrying time. Luckily, when I was driving some very expensive bits of kit I was working for a specialist insurance agency.
Can they be any more self absorbed? Rude situation for hyphen. Enough already with the snow show ( not interesting to anyone but Jason) I rarely comment but this was awful.
I love watching the only brown guy in the room just staring at JASON jealous because they have a guest and jason isnt paying attention to him!!!! Hahaha
Tbh, I was surprised thinking this at the time, @@thatsamsmith. It did seem to improve towards the end. You guys _sounded_ fantastic. I have a radio announcer background, and enjoy listening to voices that have all those positive qualities that makes hearing them a pleasure: breath control; enunciation; variety of tempo; expressive intonation, etc, etc. Both of you also know your stuff. I think Jason is one of the very best presenter/producers of car enthusiast videos - anywhere, in any format. His technical knowledge _and_ delivery style, tick all the boxes for engaging us viewers. Did I feel let down because we heard almost nothing from Derek for most of this hour? 🤷🏼♂️ Maybe. He has (most humans have) fewer talents to draw from than Jason, but Derek seems to be the _perfect_ anchor, as to Jason's bright, attention-getting spinnaker. (Forgive that weird metaphor. No f'n idea where it came from!) Maybe it was that you and Jase were speaking about each other, _to_ each other. It was as if you two were there for only yourselves. Made it, errm... missable, for us watching.
aw, i didn't really enjoy this one, not because i hate the concept of guests on this show or sam smith, but because i really, really missed hearing Derek's voice and input this whole episode.
lolll Sam smith is here wow. Love his "In the moment" articles. And as always, that integra that he owned is G and ofc the weissrat 2002, the rust bucket wonder. Glad we got 3 of the best car people in the world in the room. Throw in matt farah, and then jack baruth for some spice, and then you've got the greatest gathering of car people this side of the atlantic.
Derek looks like all my friends when I bump into someone I haven't seen for a while and start casually chatting, not realizing they are still there with me and would like to at least be introduced😅
how an you be bored with this lmao💀literally two of the greatest automotive writers in the world talking about their time at what was one of the best magazines in the business.
DTS looking like me when my mum stopped to talk to someone she hasn't seen for a while.
I was thinking the same thing 💀💀💀
Poor Derek! Should have given him the day off.
💯 facts. Haha.
He's just taking it allllllll in!
DTS sitting there like he's watching his partner reconnect with a former lover right in front of him.
😂
basically what it is
going to say ,but it's so obv.
DTS is third wheeling on this date lol
Dude, thanks. I haven’t laughed that hard in months. Totally was thinking the same thing.
Love Derek in shock, quietly looking for a path to the exit as the stories of complete insanity unfold. He knows he is trapped with two potentially dangerous lunatics but can't find an escape.
I listened to the first half of this on the podcast and switched over at lunch. SHOCKED to realize DTS was physically there. Poor dude.
Did you feel it became more interesting for us viewers/listeners, when the dynamics changed from _over-adrenalised reminiscing_ , and more _discussion of stuff_ ?
Poor Derek was mostly audience on this one
Poor hyphen 😢 he looks so sad. “Hello darkness my old friend”
Thats just the “capturing and interpreting data” face.
@@air-headedaviator1805 agreed!
can't believe we're getting this for free. loved not only listening but also watching this. you guys have definitely kept your inner child very much alive. kudos!
Sadly this is just a talkfest - missing the normal great Derek chat
He can stay quiet with his 94 year old self for once.
I loved it
Just me or Derek feels uncomfortable like a third wheel here 😂
Watching while waiting for my colonoscopy and this ain’t even a joke #aintnowayimgoingtomissthecarmudggeonshow
😆
tell them to use wd40...it helps
@@frozencarguy6274 Ecstasy makes it _even better._
😂@@accord_aero_r
As someone who grew up reading Jean Jennings, I loved hearing the stories about Automobile. Great episode!
So cool to see Sam on this one! Loved hearing you guys talk about your time at Automobile and how awful Ann Arbor is for like 8 out of 12 months of the year 😂 I know the exact parking garage you mentioned and I can confirm that stairwell is still nasty to this day.
Also learned that one of the Automobile staffers you mentioned is currently a coworker of mine -- what a small world! Great listening to this during work and thanks for creating such good radio like you folks do.
That elise story is exactly why I always wiggle the stick like 6 times before letting the clutch out.
I'm like Derek with the starting. From childhood on i start any car while having the left foot on the clutch and the right on the brake.
The reason will be differnt though.
When i was 7 or 8 my dad mounted a "funny" new horn into the car and told me to switch on ignition. At that age i had not known that there were different stages to the key so i turned it too far. He was standing in front of the car while i did that, and the whole car made a leap forward and it almost hit him. Left an imprint in my brain. So as soon as he taught me to drive this was how is started cars since.And before i let my foot off the brake and clutch i check if it's not in gear.
And then still i let off the clutch but stay on the brake. So if i am too stupid and forget the car might stall, but it won't jump forward.
The clip with the tyre test was fun! (Winter tyres have their name for a reason)
DTS acting as the audience surrogate
How does this channel not have 500k+ subscribers yet?
I loved this episode! Its really just two of the most eclectic and hyperactive personalities I’ve seen vibing out and discussing long automotive history with each other. I can imagine how intensely afraid Sam must have been as a 25 year old fearing the loss of his future, since myself am a 25 year old worrying about whether or not there’s a future in this path too 😂 if they are doing another vid with em next week it’ll be great to watch!
DTS sitting there listening to damage Sam caused to the ford gt made my week, oml.
The DNA of this episode runs back to Leon Mandell. These (very talented) clowns represent a quality of reporting and presenting that is becoming more rare by the day. My gratitude to Jean Lindamood Jennings for not killing them on any of the occasions she undoubtedly considered the act.
To me one of the greatest takeaways from this episode is the idea of " writing... not to be understood, but so that you can't be misunderstood." It's so simple and hearing it out loud, it's almost obvious; but it wasn't until Sam said the words that it dawned on me that every time I've wrote a letter, sent an email, or a text instead of calling or talking it was so that my words were succinct, verifiable, and without ambiguity. Otherwise, great exchange and I look forward to each new one. Please have Sam back again.
Have you realized that the ONLY two guests on this show have had brown trouser moments in a Ford GT? I can't wait to see who guest #3 is.
Oh.. I saw Sam Smith and thought Jason was going to be serenading us again ☹️😂
derek disassociating in the corner
The comments here are unbelievable. Thank you Jason, Derek and Sam.
I say no to Hyphen discrimination. I feel bad for him. No guest should take over the places of Cammisa or Hyphen. Thank you.
We need Sam to join the guys quarterly. We got an hour of, what must be potentially, 50 hours of great stories. And poor Derek sitting there like the new kid that got invited to sit at the cool kid table. Great episode!
Happy to see Jason’s Ex getting along with his new Boo
Missed DTS , he didn't chime in until 50min mark.
Listening Jason complains about A² decades ago hits extra level of hard when currently on my way to grab some Zingerman Sandwichs before my UMich move out. A dedicated A²/Detroit episode in future?
The only way this episode could be more stacked is if you'd invited Peter Egan. HOLY COW, two of my writing & journalist heroes in one spot?!
John Phillips too!
Ya know, mentioning good eats, it suddenly dawns on me that that's the show that I've smelled influence from on y'all this entire time.
Absolutely fantastic episode as always.
Two guys taken the piss out of each other. You got to love it.
They say never meet your heroes but ... Jason, you are my automotive hero. Thank you for adding color to the black and white car culture that I grew up in.
What is your hot take on a SH Subaru Forester manual?
@57:55. If I remember correctly, redline 1st gear is something like 60.05 mph. They clearly picked the ratio to enable a 0-60 run without a shift.
I've transported and driven lots of very expensive cars for different work and yes I'm always relieved when the car is not my responsibility anymore. I was just asked to take a McLaren P1 from Connecticut to Florida a month or so ago and I quoted an extremely high rate because I wanted nothing to do with a car that just sold for $2,000,000. Funny thing is the only car I've ever put any damage on, that's not mine, was an almost new Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster. Luckily it was just scrape on the front fender from a wheel strap rubbing on it and the owner was a friend of mine.
All I want is for Sam Smith to be on every episode for the rest of eternity this actually make me shout when I heard his voice
Wait, my 2 favorite auto journalists started their careers together? This might be the greatest podcast ever. This trio needs to be a reoccurring segment.
So glad you had Adam Sandler on the show
23:08 I didn't expect Cammisa FEET action here jeez
JUST MADE MY DAY!!! Thanks guys!!!
Unfortunately this episode was a bit of a cluster
It's always a cluster.
@@JETZcorp haha that’s true, this was a different breed of cluster tho. Just trying to provide helpful feedback to the boys
This episode showed me that there are positions in automotive journalism that go beyond simply writing about the cars. How blind I was... When I write an Instagram post, a university paper, or am a part of a group assignment, I'm the person who then scours over every single detail and enjoys it! I would LOVE a position like that with one of the outlets. As someone who has spent their life doing their homework and loving cars, hearing Derek and Jason talk about what it's like to work in this industry (in a previous episode) felt somewhat discouraging. But that was my first reaction to their words, and it took a few replays to understand that it was just the honest truth behind their jobs. But now realising that there are other opportunities available in this field gives me some hope. I'll continue to work on getting my degree, honing my editing skills, and actually reaching out to an outlet in the hopes that someone might be interested in what I have to offer.
As Sam said: "Just pick a path and TRY. And fuck Jason Cammisa." 😅
If you never try you´ll never know. Wish you the best of luck!
Never been allowed into a Ford GT. But when I bought a 1700 mile Honda S2000 in early 2005, the owner wanted to run the sale through the Ford dealer where he was buying a Mustang convertible to save sales tax. (His version was wanting a back seat for the kids. Mine was that he thought the Honda was a cramped, noisy, hard riding nightmare - all pluses for me.) The dealer had a Ford GT on the floor and while they were messing with the paper work I spend my time ogling it. At the first glance, the words "Dan Gurney" just popped into my mind.
It’s kinda funny, as a UM alum I know about all the streets, bars, parking garages, etc that you’re talking about. It was a great place to spend 4 years
Its wild that these 2 started at automotive mag the year i was born
Derek has that "reconsidering life choices that led to present company" look. Sam can't be heard half the time, which scares me.
23:55 onwards, seeing Derek static in the corner around clowns is hysterical.
I remember my subscription to automobile, amongst others, and this was absolute fucking-treat!
Michigan has some hills in the north. Some!
The episode in which Derek watches old people reminisce about being slightly less old.
If Cammisa is discount Sandler, Smith is Rebate Michael Shannon!! Listening to his podcast with John Coletti, pretty awesome. Godspeed to you all.
Normally listen to these. This one I’m watching, with good reason
Hot piss, it's Sam Smith
Oh this takes me back.
I am proud to announce that my car and Cammisa’s gut have the same name
Hyphen looks stressed from all the stories
So, how did the audio people react, to the sound of the video you all inserted into the Podcast, lol.
I used to always leave my cars in gear, until someone left their suv un neutral, without the handbrake on the top of a hill. The car rolled, hit my car, moved it around 7 meters, and wreked the gearbox from the hit.
Can we get Anthony on the show I am sure he has some good stories to share as well
When you're driving the expensive machinery it is just a car. It is when you get in and out that is the worrying time. Luckily, when I was driving some very expensive bits of kit I was working for a specialist insurance agency.
Can they be any more self absorbed? Rude situation for hyphen. Enough already with the snow show ( not interesting to anyone but Jason) I rarely comment but this was awful.
Those driveways are so intelligently built in AA. It never snows there or gets icy, so having steep driveways is no issue at all🤦🏻♂️
I think I can find the house he’s talking about in a2 9:01
This was entertaining, but Derek is more interesting.
2:56 DTS looks Depresso expresso
I remember Sam and Jason and Jean Lindamood in a caddy driving to New Orleans (?) David E. Davis would have lost his mind.
Wait. Did Sam just quote Gumball Rally?!! I love these guys - best podcast out there th-cam.com/video/PgFUEzJXJlY/w-d-xo.html
First comment!
Do the best driving roads in every state!
I have my nomination for Washington State. Wind River Rd between Carson and Northwoods. It's like a Japanese Touge, it's so good.
I need eastern MA roads!
I am not a hater but can we please see the unedited video of the lancias exhaust
I love watching the only brown guy in the room just staring at JASON jealous because they have a guest and jason isnt paying attention to him!!!! Hahaha
For the record Derek is INCREDIBLY jet lagged in this episode, hence why he barely talks.
Lots of tire squaking on that driveway.
Just skip to 6:48 lol
😬 By a long way, this is the very least engaging Carmudgeon episode ever.
Totally
Tbh, I was surprised thinking this at the time, @@thatsamsmith. It did seem to improve towards the end.
You guys _sounded_ fantastic. I have a radio announcer background, and enjoy listening to voices that have all those positive qualities that makes hearing them a pleasure: breath control; enunciation; variety of tempo; expressive intonation, etc, etc.
Both of you also know your stuff.
I think Jason is one of the very best presenter/producers of car enthusiast videos - anywhere, in any format. His technical knowledge _and_ delivery style, tick all the boxes for engaging us viewers.
Did I feel let down because we heard almost nothing from Derek for most of this hour? 🤷🏼♂️ Maybe.
He has (most humans have) fewer talents to draw from than Jason, but Derek seems to be the _perfect_ anchor, as to Jason's bright, attention-getting spinnaker. (Forgive that weird metaphor. No f'n idea where it came from!)
Maybe it was that you and Jase were speaking about each other, _to_ each other. It was as if you two were there for only yourselves. Made it, errm... missable, for us watching.
DTS hates being the third wheel
Funniest episode ever. But I feel bad for DT-S.
I think something is wrong with Sams microphone 🎙 (or voice?) …..keeps cutting in and out when he talks
aw, i didn't really enjoy this one, not because i hate the concept of guests on this show or sam smith, but because i really, really missed hearing Derek's voice and input this whole episode.
lolll Sam smith is here wow. Love his "In the moment" articles. And as always, that integra that he owned is G and ofc the weissrat 2002, the rust bucket wonder. Glad we got 3 of the best car people in the world in the room. Throw in matt farah, and then jack baruth for some spice, and then you've got the greatest gathering of car people this side of the atlantic.
20:20 DTS feeling like a third wheel… never looked so funny
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I very much disliked this Episode. I just missed Derek.
Also I was born in 2006 lol💀💀💀
Early commenters are all upset about DTS being quiet but who could be upset about Rob Schneider joining Adam Sandler to host the Carmudgeon show!
Hyphen should have faked a bathroom emergency or a stroke to get out of there.
God, that was painful to watch. Let’s get back to regular programming.
Derek looks like all my friends when I bump into someone I haven't seen for a while and start casually chatting, not realizing they are still there with me and would like to at least be introduced😅
Oh you’re *that* guy
Derek looks as bored with this as the rest of us.
how an you be bored with this lmao💀literally two of the greatest automotive writers in the world talking about their time at what was one of the best magazines in the business.
Lulz, “the Tubes of You”
I may have testosterone poisoning just from listening to this episode.
That mic blocking his face is killin me....