Van Damme vs Bruce Lee's ghost in this insane movie | So Bad It's Good #67 - No Retreat No Surrender
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- The Last Kumite has wrapped! I'm travelling home today (nevermind, my flight was cancelled), so there won't be a new episode as usual. But in honor of Kurt McKinney, who is in The Last Kumite and is a GREAT guy, we're re-releasing No Retreat No Surrender. This was copyright claimed a long time ago, but fortunately, we only had to make a few changes to make things right.
A kid, who is bullied by a fat idiot, turns to Bruce Lee's ghost for training so he can beat a crime syndicate using Jean-Claude Van Damme as its enforcer to get revenge for his father who lost his dojo when his leg was broken and... Jesus. This movie is insane.
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The Last Kumite has wrapped! I'm travelling home today, so there won't be a new episode as usual. But in honor of Kurt McKinney, who is in The Last Kumite and is a GREAT guy, we're re-releasing No Retreat No Surrender. This was copyright claimed a long time ago, but fortunately, we only had to make a few changes to make things right.
Glad to hear the good news!!! Sadly, I dunno if I can make the live-stream this weekend, gotta work😭😭😭
Congratulations, seriously looking forward to seeing it!
Great Episode. For me is this, Death Wish 3 and Barbarians TOP of your work
Cant wait!!!
If I don't see dave in a corner of a bar with a beer I'm gonna be pissed 😂
Seeing Brian's incredulously received "Bruce Lee's Ghost" prediction get tossed off, not taken that seriously, and then pay off was a rare delight. Deserves some kind of award, honestly.
the most believable part of this movie is that in order to beat Van Damme you'd need to summon the ghost of Bruce Lee
A Bruce Lee that looks like Leroy's sidekick from The Last Dragon 😆
literally the only way possible : P
🤣🤣
Or... throw some coke on the ground & shoot him in the back of the head while he's "powdering his nose."
Well, you could also try distracting Van Damme with cocaine.
For over 30 years THIS is the favorite movie of a very good friend of mine and me 🏆
It has got it all: music, style, story (kind of), fighting, training, dancing and of course JCVD (the GOAT) 😄
We are watching the movie every now and then and honestly it does get better every single time ❤
Comedy gold. It has a great ending where your friend reminds you of the title of the film in order to win.
Amazing writing.
@@JasonBrant Oscar level.
Jason: "Erin, was this movie so bad it's good?"
Erin: "Well, Confucius once said, by three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest, similarly, Musashi said determine that you will overcome your self of the day before"
Jason: "Thanks"
You nailed it 🤣🤣
That was a badass intro of JCVD. The suit, the mystery..... this is anime level stuff lol
Haha, yeah it is.
Isn't it weird how we watch these guys for about an hour every week and feel like we kind of know them a little yet you are a complete stranger to them?
You do know them a little...you're a stranger to them!! Even if the shtick is complete BS, a little bit of their personality leaks thru regardless...so yes, u do know them a little...
Ok, kids, does anybody know the definition of the word, "stalking"? Haha, just kidding, you're 100% right!
@@duncantiv come on dont do me like that lol
I feel the same way
Isn't weird that I think they've done this movie before
So thrilled to hear that Kurt McKinney is in the Last Kumite. Can't wait to see it (and judge it).
He's such a cool guy.
Did I watch this before? Yes. Will I watch it again? You bet I will, this was hilarious.
Yea I was gonna say the same thing! lol not sure why but whatever 😂
They did this before
Haha, thanks.
I laughed so hard at how the excitement level went up when Bruce Lee's ghost walked in🤣 I was waiting for that when y'all guessed it right.
Corey Yuen, who had directed and choreographed lots of movies is also famous being being in the group that includes Sammo Hung and Jackie Chan who went to the same Peking Opera school. Corey Yuen in an interview said that he admires and respects the original Karate Kid. How he directed No Retreat No Surrender is how he thought The Karate Kid should've gone.
The plot of the movie. The European version does go into detail more than the American version. The mob guys want to form a fighting syndicate of karate schools, so they go after the good schools. They wanted to get Jason's father's school to I guess start up the California syndicate. Because Kelly's brother became champion, they wanted to start a syndicate in Seattle. Van Damme's character just happened to be the baddest martial artist working for the mob guys, not necessarily it being Russia against the USA> It was the mob putting up Van Damme as one man instead of them going with the 3-man team they originally had, to go against the Seattle team "and whoever else has the balls".
While calling Bruce Lee "Sensei" would be technically correct as far as in the context of a teacher, the Chinese word for teacher is obviously different. It makes sense that the word Sensei would be used since it's a word that most likely any person who have an idea of what it means.
While I like the European version because of the more detail, I like the American version more because of the music; totally different music especially in the training, fight and the disco scenes.
I saw this and I quickly turned off what I was watching because this is IMPORTANT
You got that right.
Seeing Jean Claude Van Damme look that young is kinda jarring 😆
Haha, yeah it is.
Lol please tell me you’re a nuclear engineer/technician 🤣🤣🤣
This was his first major role but he’d already been an extra in Breakin’ in 1984 dancing whilst wearing a black leotard! This is also one of the greatest martial ‘SBiG’ films of all time!
That clip of him dancing in both Breakin and later Kickboxer are still hilarious to this day.
I think he wore That same leotard in Lyon heart
This movie had everything I didn't know I needed. Bruce Lee's ghost doing candle lit sensual training, random break dancing, some fat guy that carries cake around, MERICA! All the spin kicks!
Erin's impression of tonsil hockey at 22:53 needs to be your new censor sound.
That Shawn Michaels edit was goddamned genius! 🤣
My dad took me to see this when it was in the theater, and I loved every minute of it (and still do). I was so freaking excited when you guys initially thought Brian didn’t get it right with the ghost of Bruce, because I knew y’all were going to lose it when it actually happened.
It's such an insane twist. I still don't trust him that he didn't know.
8:55 CinemaSins would have sinned that but you guys cheering is awesome! 😂👍🏻
Erin: "It's not like he had a hip replacement."
Jason... Have a word with your missus about how anyone would walk like that if JCVD went to town on their legs. Hahaha!
I was a huge Van Damme fan as a kid. I remember being so disappointed when I finally convinced my parents to rent this for me and Van Damme was in it for all of 5 minutes.
Especially when he's the only one on the cover 🤣
I just wish you guys would have watched the US cut. It's a little less ridiculous and it also has a scene taken out with him and the girlfriend on a date and they stop at the pet store and they're looking at the bunnies. So the whole scene at the birthday party makes sense, unlike the euro cut where you feel like you had a stroke and missed some scenes or something. I have seen this movie at least a hundred times over the years. This was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid, I'm 40 now and still love this movie just as much. It's just cheesy fun and definitely a S.B.I.G.
BTW, I don't know if y'all have seen The Last Dragon. If not, I would love to hear your commentary on a So Bad It's Good CLASSIC!
Not to mention the music is so much better in the us cut
This is crazy! I actually thought you'd already watched this movie before. Like a couple of years back.
Anyway, I watched this movie in a dollar theater when I was a kid. Those were some good times.
I remember them watching it before too. I swear I saw them watch it about 3 weeks ago.
The crazy part was the guy that played Bruse Lee was his actual stand-in in his movies
This was also Jean-Claude Van Dammes first Lawsuit he had. He kicked Loren Avedon (the father of our hero) so many times full force in the throat with his jump kicks. They had to sacrifice a whole day and 3 stunt people and decided to not do any throat kicks and go to the chest instead. Good old Van Dame didn't stop there. Did you see how realistic Devon delivered the kicks in his face ? They tried multiple takes and took the one where Avedon could still stay after the beating. Jean-Claude never retreats, not even when there is nothing to fight for.
I forgot all about the Bruce Lee stuff. LOL. I saw this as a kid when there were only, like, four Van Damme movies and I just had to see them all. Gonna say I was 11 or 12, and this taught me what the difference between a bad movie and a good movie was. The only part I remembered was the first time the dude said "Ne retreat. No surrender," and even as a no-nothing kid, I was like "That's some stupid shit."
that music with the dancing scene was awesome. you all looked mesmerized haha
One of the greatest movies of all time. I watched this for the first time in my late teens, I’m now nearly 50, and it’s still amazing!
My friend saw JCVD fighting in a tournament when he was based in Germany with the army
He said that JCVD was the same size and speed as he is in NRNS and that he's "a dirty bastard in the ring"
No kidding? I've heard some stories about JCVD's lack of control during fight scenes.
Oh yeah. One of my favorites with a very young Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Kinda weird seeing him this young.
"I've always wanted to do that!"
"What's stopping you?"
"Pride, dignity, and the lack of time travel ability..."
Van Damme was a backup dancer in Breakin... 1984....
Look it up...its gold
The sound you use to bleep out expletives in this movie is by far my favorite. The others are funny too, but this one is the best! Please bring it back at some point! 😄😄
I am partial to the Barbarian hurrr, myself.
@@RevanAlaire That's a classic too, no doubt. 😝
As a kid i was totally down with this franchise, they main guys had some solid ass kicks and the theme song still goes hard : D
This a classic SBIG episode! Fun fact: I saw an interview with the actor who plays the character who beats up Kurt McKinney's character at the party. In the interview, he said that the JCVD jumping spin kick at 24:30, actually made contact and knocked out the other actor. 🤕
I was getting drunk watching this with buds years back shortly after it got a home video release, and when the ghost of Bruce Lee showed up I quipped, "Bruce Lee? He looks more like Sulu ..." Now, in retrospect, he doesn't look like Sulu, but that's where my drunken mind went to. We laughed a lot watching this flick, especially the final sequence.
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😂😂😂😂
Get rest and thank you for the fun!!! Waiting the new episodes... But until then enjoying the classics!
Was hoping to drop a new episode on Sunday, but my flight back was cancelled, so I'm not sure when I'll get it done.
Still waiting for Jason to bring back the sleeveless polo shirts.
17:15 “is he going to teach him how to fight?”
No, Bruce Lee is going to teach him how to play banjo
"no retreat no surrender" was his first lead role. His first appearance was in "missing in action" with Chuck Norris where he was a driver.
I saw this movie in the movie theater when it came out… Van Damme played the villain, so good that it was weird seeing him become a hero later
I hope your flight went smoothly.
I've been lucky in my travels, as I've climitized and adjusted to time changes pretty easily. Hopefully you do too.
I was introduced to this movie back in '07 by a friend in Chicago. We were out one night and my friend yelled out, "No retreat, no surrender!". I thought he was trying to quote "Never give up, never surrender!", from Galaxy Quest. We went home and watched this wonderful movie.
Also, I've been to Bruce Lee's grave here in Seattle. The scenes reminded me that it's not alone now as Brandon's grave is right next to it.
The two finger push ups were faked. Wires were used to pull him up.
The flights have been horrible. I'll be ranting during the livestream, haha. So you were a late bloomer with this movie too? Can't believe I didn't watch this as a kid. It's so nuts.
Too bad they didn't fake the hip thrusts.
"He was just making out with her hard, he brought her the bunny."
- Jason.
I don't know why, but like last time this made me laugh way more than it should have. Haha!
Interesting that Van Damme never did that weird sneer in any of his movies ever again after this. 😅
I love how you look Erin when she's a goofball! Like you are still in love with her for this exact reason (among possible others!) but constantly asking yourself "WTF is wrong with her?!" :D It's hilarious and wholesome. Lucky guy! :)
I had to legit get a second copy of this movie when I was 8 because I wore the film track out on the VHS tape. Also, Jason. Not gonna lie. 1:54 you gave some well deserved sarcasm lol. Sometimes tough love is needed. Wait nope 15:46. He redeemed himself.
This movie is one of my favorites it's definitely in my top ten. Another gem is breathing fire.
The cheese burger mustard reaction is hilarious 😂!
I just realized something. The guy fighting Jean-Claude van Damme did the equivalent to a "Flash Kick," which just so happens to be a move that Guile, from Street Fighter 2, happens to use regularly. Of course JCvD would go on to play Guile in the hot garbage known as "Street Fighter: the Movie."
Probably an homage to Enter the Dragon. Bruce Lee (his stunt double actually) uses this move vs O'Hara.
I actually had this on VHS as a kid. No idea how as there cant be many copies out there. But this movie is a part of my childhood. So bad. SO GOOD.
Is that a family of chunks? Best line ever.
My childhood was full of kung fu movies. I remember watching this a tonne but now I've watched this, literally the only part I remembered was Van Damme going ape at the end and the hero flying in to fight him.
The music in this movie is amazing.... so 80s
Congrats to Erin for mentioning The 4 Horsemen! LOL
I am happy to watch this one again
Thanks!
The US won, obviously-lmfao Erin’s face-so perfect! Bravo
Scott bribed his posse's loyalty with food. A tactic so good Scar used it in The Lion King. "Stick with me, and you'll never go hungry again!!"
I saw this back in the late 80's-early 90's and I literally screamed THAT DUDE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE BRUCE LEE at my TV!
Nothing wrong with a re-release! I still love the John Steinbeck reference. Congrats on wrapping up The Last Kumite.
i kind grew up with this movie, i had it on vhs. saw it like 30 times. inspired me to learn karate as an 8 year old, which i dropped a month in, after i learned, that to be "this good" it takes 15 years of training :D
The FIRST movie Van Damme appeared in was "Breakin" (1984). He was a dancer in a black leotard in the scene showcasing the handicapped dancers.
I've always thought the fight JCVD had with those three Karate dudes was badass.
Lot of cool fights in this.
Plus his first movie is Breakin'. He's in the back ground on the beach dancing in a leotard
"Dave???"....really never gets old. Its the same with my friends, we shit talk each other whener we see each other (less and less thx to life as adults....stupid responsible!!!). If you cant shit talk each other you should not be friends.....
You guys are so innocently young, for most of us this was the first Van Dam movie ever....
I saw this movie so many times as a kid in the 80s. Absolute classic
i'm assuming you seen the us version? do you know where i can find the us version is it on dvd?
WOW! This was one of the first martial arts flicks my Kung Fu instructor showed me when i started training with him. In his words, this was the best martial arts performance Van Damme ever put on film. The director, Corey Yuen, is a Hong Kong living LEGEND in directing, choreographing and acting on martial arts movies that, apart from the insane plot, really made Van Damme earn his pay on the fight sequences.
“Full contact karate!!!”😂😂😂
Could you try to convince Erin to do the Elaine dance, or impression? Thanks for making me laugh, that's actually, quiet an accomplishment.
I saw this movie when it first came out. I enjoyed it. The cheesy acting and characters were entertaining to watch. Watched it again last week and these 52 year old man still enjoys it.
Watched it last night, and honestly, had no idea that it would be the most I would LAUGH for months!!
I really loved the movie . Bloodsport and kickboxe after that. when i was 16. Inspirational. Fights showed some skill
17:03 this guy is an korean actor and taekwondo fighter called Kim Tai Chung, he was Billy Lo in Game Of Death (1978) and Game Of Death II (1981) "he also acted as Bobby Lo", he acted as Bruce in Jackie and Bruce to the Rescue (1982) and he was the main actor in the movie Miss Please Be Patient (1982), after that he retired from acting and become an businessman.
In 2014 an indie film label called Houndslow Team would release in dvd the previously lost movie Miss Please Be Patient with Kim Tai Chung involved in the release and Kim would make an comeback to acting in a movie called Yakuza but he unfortunally died in 2014.
I remember seeing this in 95 is when I was 14 and thinking it was decent action, but pretty dumb lol. I believe it's Van Dammes first major role, but I've been a fan of his ever since either way. I wish they would release his footage from his lobster suit, errr i mean Predator outfit lol, and cut it into the final product. That would be a laugh riot, lol
Hah, that would be interesting.
The director is Corey Yuen.👍👏👏👍
Also like him as a comedian.
This was the first video I watched on your channel! It's..fricking..awesome! I've since watched every other video haha. Keep up the good work 😁😂😅😊
Thanks so much!
I think the chunk-style villian should've been invited to be in the Last Kumite
oh shiiiizz!!! Vandamme´s first appearance in the movies!!
Luv from Portugal, u bunch of fine people!! 🥰
Thanks so much!
I'mma need her to do that New York accent more often.
Van Damme had to be wearing very high heels in some of these scenes.
Approx 20:58 when Jason said “is this O’doyole rules” I spit out my coffee laughing my ass off!! too funny!
I forgot about this movie. I loved it back in the day.
I think Van Damme's first in a U.S. movie was in the movie Breakin' in 1984. It's such a small Cameo but he's one of a crowd dancing on the boardwalk.
OMG i loved this as a kid its SO BAD lol
Bruce Lee training him kills me.
@@JasonBrant even as a like 10 year old i was confused on why he was helping the bully kid lol
That "Soul Glow" effect was actually pretty cool!
What's the name of the music track you subbed in? It was surprisingly catchy😂
Wow I remember this movie making the rounds on cable back in the day, probably saw it more times than I can remember. This (and "The Last Dragon") represented some of the best that 80s martial arts movies had to offer haha
Dont worry Jason I got the Lenny joke, I was laughing on the floor at it, you got me 😂
Imprtant heads-up! Michael Flatley (yes the lord of the dance), has just made a vanity project that he wrote, funded and directed called 'Blackbird'. He cast himself as the James Bond, super-spy protagonist. Oh my freaking god!!! It's being compared to 'The Room'. I'm speechless. Words can't desctibe what my eyes have just witnessed!!
Rewatched this movie about a year ago, for the first time since I was a kid. I spit my drink out at the scene where his friend was on top of him, helping him "train"
Hey, at the 17:45 mark, it truly makes the hair on my arms stand up! Think fingers across a chalk board! You know that’s the sound that charcoal makes!! You’re welcome!! Enjoy the chills it gave me!
I should be in that basement. I've been watching budget movies since the 80's . Theres a lot of movies they don't know about. I watched their Hard Target episode last night. I enjoyed it,but thats a good movie. I am younger than them,so maybe I'm biased. There having fun,so props to them. I did just find out abour Blood and Steel because of them. I am forever grateful!
I meant to say older than them.
I'm so happy this came across my front page! Such a glorious mess of a film that I came across through a group called "Rifftrax." I'm going to be watching more of your videos since those movies were done by that group as well.
Nicole kidmans first movie BMX BANDITS is so bad it's good. By the way congratulations on finishing the last kumate I can't wait to watch it
One of the best predictions in the show!
I still think he read about it...
I looooved this movie as a kid!
Just saw the Rifftrax version of this. WOW. So bad (the breakdancing sidekick is literally the worst), but peak '80s cheese. I absolutely love all of the incidental synth music, too.
Holy shit dude that beat fits perfect.
"Don't ruin this movie for me."
Epic. Just epic.
Glad you and Erin will be together soon...a month apart had to be hard...welcome back home ✌️
Jason, Jason! You need to listen to Erin. She seems to be the only one that pays attention to the movies haha. Saw this when i was 13 and thought JCVD was a god. Watching as an adult, hilarious stuff. Love you guys, keep 'em coming.
Been waiting for this movie👍
This is an old episode, but I hope you dig it!