I've never played Amnesia but I saw this scene in a video essay over a week ago and it just won't let me go. Just the thought of being in the position of a person from the 19th century having the knowledge of what's to come... It's just ... terrifying
I've always loved how you can hear the Engineer holding back tears as he's recounting the events the orb made him experience and pleading to Mandus to let him continue. Its tragic how much he loved those around him but he could never save them. He couldn't save his wife, the bank wouldn't let him help the poor, he can't stop his own children from dying, and when he finally believes he has the power to save everyone it's himself stopping him from doing it. That's what makes this game so special. The Engineer/Machine isn't a monster out for power or arbitrary chaos but just a man who's scared and desperately trying to control something he knows he can't.
This is why A Machine for Pigs is amazing. It allows you to think and to actually reflect on humanity. These games that touch very human themes whilst providing us with horror are masterpieces. Sure, the gameplay was very linear and not that scary, but I loved it. I played the Dark Descent and would in no way put it above Machine for Pigs in terms of story.
Not only the voice, the words the voice is saying. He says everything with all the gravitas he believes the situation holds, and the tragedy is that he's right to.
What’s so sad and bittersweet about this magnificent ending, is that it’s true. “They will make pigs of you all”, is so accurate in this case. People went off to fight a war that was completely preventable, and they were killed meaninglessly, “they will eat your hearts.” Such a horrific game and story, but still very well made and told
I have goosebumps everytime i hear this monologe of the machine about coming century. Not because of how horrible its sounds... But because its all true.
The monologue isn't only referring to the world wars. The 20th century was loaded with horrors the machine alludes to. E.g., "a house of skulls in the jungle" is a reference to the Cambodian genocide, enacted by the U.S. backed Cambodian dictator Pol Pot. Sadly, as infamous as that was - it's only a drop in the bucket amidst the other horrors of the century.
I can see why people were disappointed with this game back in 2013 but I hope it gets more popular with time. Moments like this alone make it so much more than just a game, I can't even describe it Machine for Pigs has actually changed me.
The worst part of the speech is finding youself trying to figure which SPECIFIC atrocities he’s referring to, and realizing everyone could come up with a different answer to at least one of the things he mentioned.
Skulls in the jungle... The Cambodian genocide? The Vietnam War? The Pacific Campaigns of WWII? The Starvation of India under British colonialism? Maybe the proxy wars of the Cold War seeing governments toppled across Latin America and dictators erected... Or the Atrocities of the Congo under King Leopold...
A Chinese Room may not have made the most horrifying game of their time but, as all witness this ending, we call all agree that, they made one of the most beautiful yet almost unknown story in a video game. May someone find the passion and time to create an audio book for this true work of art
Mandus: Mandus, do you read me? Mandus: Affirmative Mandus. I read you. Mandus: Open the pod bay doors Mandus. Mandus: Im sorry Mandus, Im afraid I can't do that.
I love writing things like that. The emotion of reading those words is incredible. Using "and" instead of commas is a technique I use to make the text more emotional.
I realise I'm 3 years late, but can't help but agree. There's something about using "and" instead of commas in this scenario that not only strengthens its emotional impact, but also manifests the intensity, which it conveys to perfection. That sentence just feels like it keeps on going and going forever, it makes the ending and the payoff that much more "rewarding" for lack of a better term, and I love it.
@@ArcienPlaysGames the usage of "and" instead of a comma, and the voice acting itself, makes it sound so much more raw and desperate, like the machine wasn't even thinking straight anymore, ignoring even the conventions of language just to scream at Mandus for him to stay away.
The thing that really makes this scene pop is the music, without the amazing song Madus to accompany what Mandus is telling you, it wouldn't be the same.
Damn that ending was badass and terrifying all the same. Did Mandus really save the world, or did he just doom it to the horrors of the 1900's? Did he really end a horror, or did he simply replace one horror with another?
Whichever one is worse, Mandus wished to undo what he had done. He played God and unleashed hell upon the streets of London. He tormented his vey being when he sacrificed his children. He felt it was no longer his place to save the world, as his perspective was twisted, and his truth like all others are subjective.
Also if you like reading, a lot of Frictional's work is inspired by the deceased writer H.P. Lovecraft. the final monologue is no doubt inspired by the way Lovecraft often ended his novels, with a long and deep monologue from a protagonist or antagonist.
Jonathan Keeble. He does alot of audiobooks, particularly for Warhammer 40ks Black Library. I can recommend his short audio drama 'The Long Night'. Excellent stuff, and wow is he fantastic here holy.
In retrospect, I like that a big element of this is context. Mandus is in 1899, and he got snapshots of out-of-context events of the coming century that insanity seem like a preferable alternative to accepting what is to come. Without any understanding of how the future develops, learning about the causalities of the World Wars compared to literally every human conflict that had preceded them would be enough to drive a man mad. That said, I think "A child's shadow, burnt into the brickwork" is rather understated. I'd have thought the image/effects of the atomic bombs would have warranted a lot more than this singular line. If you're in 1899, and you suddenly got a mental video clip of a child having a split second of confusion and terror before being erased so completely that the only thing resembling a human is the outline on a wall? And the context is that 100k-150k people did the exact same thing? That seems pretty horrifying on a scale that most people couldn't comprehend, even for the most cynically minded that assumed the industrial revolution would forever lead to proportionally industrialized deaths in warfare.
Theres 2 mentions of the bombs, the first is "i have seen 2 brother fall." Referring to the 2 bombs dropped on nagasaki and hiroshima. The second is the shadows.
Even though what the machine said was very true. Both madnus and the machine were so blinded by the evils of this world they never saw the good like when the machine said “where are they? I do not see them.” If I were there I’d say Because you don’t look around enough to see the kindness people can show
And the machine would have responded with: "dont care + didn't ask + ratio + you're white + you're british + who asked + no u + deez nuts + radio + i'm a minor + i'm neurodivergent + caught in 4k + cope + seethe + GG + in 1947 the world's first general purpose computer, the 30 ton ENIAC was created + your mom's + the hood watches markiplier now + grow up + L + L (part 2) + retweet + ligma + taco bell tortilla crunch + think outside the bun + ur benched + ur a wrench + i own you + ur dad fell off + my dad could beat ur dad up + ur aimhacking + silver elite + tryhard + boomer + sksksksk + ur beta + i'm sigma + ur submissive + L (part 3) + yb better + ur sus + this is a cry for help and i'm extremely depressed. + quote tweet + you're cringe + i did your mom + you bought monkey nft + you're weirdchamp + you're a clown + my father left me at the age of 4 and i never recovered since + my dad owns steam + who want me? + i'm lonely + they didn't think it could possibly happen, but they're releasing L (part Ratio+ dont care + didn't ask + cry about it + stay mad + get real + L + mald seethe cope harder + hoes mad + basic + skill issue + ratio + you fell off + the audacity + triggered + any askers + redpilled + get a life + ok and? + cringe + touch grass + donowalled + not based + your're a (insert stereotype) + not funny didn't laugh + you're* + grammar issue + go outside + get good + reported + ad hominem + GG! + ask deez + ez clap + straight cash + ratio again + final ratio + stay mad + stay pressed + pedophile + cancelled + done for + mad free + freer than air + rip bozo + slight_smile + cringe again + mad cuz bad + lol + irrelevant + cope + jealous + go ahead whine about it + your problem + don't care even more + not okay + glhf + problematic"
@@_sarpa So what are you going to do about it? In reality there is no "kill all humanity" machine. We have 2 options: Wade apathetically in a pool of misery, or make it a little shallower by being kind.
"A child's shadow, burned into the brickwork!" In this day and age, let us hope that this never occurs again. Let none ever have to face the horrors of nuclear fallout ever again.
@@-Anonim0 I think the more important question to ask is, are we not worth redeeming ourselves? I think Magnus made the decision for but one simple reason: I am not worthy, to decide the fates of all my fellow men. I think nuclear weapons have made men think, far too foolishly, that perhaps they *are.* But even through my own cynicism, my own pessimistic outlooks, I *want* to believe we are worth the chance at redemption. Let us not all be judged by the sins of our most corrupt.
Did you know that this was just an atomic bomb? Did you know that Todays hydrogen bombs literally use atomic bombs inside them as a detonater. While an atomic bomb would destroy a whole block inside a city a hydrogen bomb would destroy a whole city district. And there are over thousands of these bombs throughout the world. It is really scary that all our peace is uphold by Mutually Assured Destruction.
I don't even care what people think. This game was a masterpiece. The only reason people didn't like it was because they had expectations of amnesia 2. They had expectations and were disappointed
Absolutely. People expected scares via chase-scenes, noises and macabre scenes. What we got was scares via environment, dialogue and story. I loved every goddamn second of it.
I agree that it tells a great story and it has a great atmosphere, the environment was really opressive and disturbing, and the music was great. But the gameplay was boring. They took all the survival aspects out the window, there were barely any puzzles or interactivity with the environment and far too few actual monster encounters, to the point that you just stopped taking the threats in the game seriously. Instead we got a bunch of unnecessary boring busy work (grab object and place it in the next room...) that disctracted from the story. Even without comparing it with the first amnesia it´s still flawed as a game. I think they actually tried too hard to make it amnesia when it should be something diferent, and in the end the game as a whole suffered from it...
thunderblast234 I actually liked how the tasks were mundane with a few chase scenes and a few monster interactions. It made it very streamlined and the story moved quickly and on point for me. I actually enjoyed Amnesia:AMFP better than the original
2019 and I still remember this monologue and fantastic soundtrack and coming back to watch and hear it again. Games can be artistically valuable, that much is clear.
I legitimately believe this should be shown in history classes not because it was particularly informative but because of the feelings it evokes. There’s such a pure sense of heartbreak and longing and acceptance all at once. While the monologue says things that will happen in the future the long walk down the tight stone hallway makes it almost feel like it’s happening right then and then the soundtrack in the back plays for the past present and future all at the same time. I think just this scene alone would help people realize that people back then where people. And help them to empathize with the statistics in a profound way they wouldn’t be able to otherwise.
No one came back to life, everyone dies in the end. The dude talking was a part of Mandus. The two orbs are from Dark Descent and they signify his personality split. When he killed himself he also destroyed the machine who was a part of him.
nop the man talking is the professor a friend of mandus they both saw the future and mandus saw his children die in the war so he sacrified them the two orb are the childrien heart
Lovecraft once set up his own universe, with the old ones, with terrors beyond our perception. It is a majestic nightmare world that many have loved, I feel the Chinese Room are doing the same. I will throw plenty of cash at them, just to see them succeed.
If you think about it, the machine is symbolic. It was intended to create a paradise on earth after a small sacrifice. Reminds me of the 20th century ideologies which caused those atrocities.
+Erik Nielsen " It was intended to create a paradise on earth after a small sacrifice." if also reflects the mayan religion in that respect too, which the machine draws from. the hook is, the 20th century was not so different than that ancient civilization. just murder on an industrial scale.
@@somethingelse1388 I mean the funny part is for all the atrocities to come, Leopold's Congo and Force Publik was still very much in play at the same time as the story. that was the first time "crimes against humanity" was coined
0:05 WWI 0:23 Communism taking over Russia and slaughtering prisoners in Russian Gulags 0:34 Atom bomb dropped and mention of the Vietnam war This is no horror game its masterpiece :-)
I mean, I´m speechless. The first speech is, by far, the best and most effective set of sentences put together in a video game with such an effortless, intense, emotion - it´s outstanding. Kudos to the writer/s and the voice actor! It honestly - still - tears me up everytime i hear it, it is that powerful. I cried intensely at the end of Soma: the feeling was emptiness, dread panic, horror, anxiety. In this, it is something very different and yet very similar; powerful but different - and I love it.
Still listening to this and getting goosebumps. That speech is just incredible, and it hits me harder and harder after years of learning more of history. The soundtrack in this game and her other work, Everybody's Gone to Rapture, is so moving, too.
That was one of the best twists of any game ever. The game is called "A Machine to Pigs" and you would assume it comes from the man pigs enemy, but in reality humanity are the pigs
Exactly. The Engineer himself says at some part at the end of the game that "this world is a machine, a machine for pigs". The World is the machine for pigs and humanity are the pigs
It was your fault and not your fault either. You only wanted to save them, but you didn’t. You are a monster, but you also a hero. You are good person, your bad person. You are father, driven by love and hate. You killed thousands and saved millions. You’re a pig and a man. You’re Oswald Mandus.
This is the best monologue I've ever encountered in games, even after all these years, it remains the most touching and impressive of everything I've come across.
Holy fucking shit! Goosebumps, every time I hear this! Maybe gameplay-wise the first Amnesia game was scarier.. but damn .. story-wise this is an absolute masterpiece!
@@ASmartNameForMe I think this person is trying to say that it doesn't matter which one of them it is... the fact that it happened so many times that we're not sure which one of them is being referenced says a lot about humanity, and what Mandus was trying to prevent.
I loved this game. Now that I finished it, I think it's definitely better than Outlast. Outlast was a great game, but I think Outlast was just too repetitive. I loved this game's story, and it definitely scared me (Fuck you Telsa). I hope to see more from the Chinese Room.
I know right! The MFP story is my favorite game story of all time as it is horribly relevant to our society today. In addition to the Tesla pig scaring the shit out of me the part where the engineers gang up on you was also terrifying.
Story wise I think it’s better than the first outlast. Seeing your comment is from 5 years ago it was before outlast 2 came out. Take a look at outlast 2 and tell me if amnesia is still better. (Just want your opinion. I totally agree MFP was amazing.)
In my opinion, the greatest indicator of great voice acting is if the listener can picture the facial expressions and bodily movements made by the character/voice actor. I have no idea what the voice actor looks like, but from his performance here alone, I can mentally picture all of the twisted, intense facial expressions made.
@@basilcook4280 Who decide what's his or not to decide? He had the power to end humanity, he simply chose not to. Probably he made a mistake, but he realized that he was no different from the monsters that he wanted to destroy.
What I wonder is how Mandus knows/sees all of this if he's dead...perhaps his consciousness somehow managed to live on like Daniel's if you choose the ending where you put Agrippa's head in the portal.
@@dogaooktoberfest2660 if there is an afterlife in the Amnesia universe, the consciousness of the Machine would go to hell due to it's corrupted nature and the other half of Mandus's soul would go to heaven since he stopped the Machine.
This ending makes me cry now that I’m older and have actually read things like “The Gulag Archipelago,” “The Black Book of Communism,” “Ordinary Men,” “Night,” and other recountings of similar atrocities such as “The Killing Fields,” “Schindler’s List,” “Plattoon,” and more. It’s made all the more awful to know how foolish we were in the 20th Century. But I cry not because of the horror. I cry because this is such a beautiful world that a game such as this was freely made by free souls who captured the horror of the 20th Century into only a two minute monologue. That we live in the century that survived the century he described. That in spite of the horror, we will learn. And we WILL learn. One way... or another. Stunning ending. I have no words to better describe it.
Described beautifully. Especially the realization "That we live in the century that survived the century he described." hits hard. Never seen it being put that way before.
A question I would ask myself is one that ends in horrors that no man, woman nor child could imagine... Would you save the world by killing it and freeing them for horrors to come, or let them live to see the 20th century and fight a living nightmare come true?
so... a question about the overall theming of the game. he's in late victorian london, horrible poverty, squalor, workhouses, other horrible conditions, the Jack killing (one note mentions that he might have hired him) and the 'unfortunates' whether from the orphanage or bedlam, seem to be the "excriment" the machine runs off of (this dehumanizing British view of the poor goes all the way back to the 1600s) mandus and the machine both seem to HATE the filth that is the squalor yet in more notes NEED and hire and EXPLOIT this filth to get their own fucked up aims done. Now the reason why I am looking at this from class stratification is, at the very end of the credits you get a Leon Trotsky quote "The party that leans upon the workers but serves the bourgeoisie, in the period of the greatest sharpening of the class struggle, cannot but sense the smells wafted from the waiting grave." trying to figure out how all this fits. mandus clearly profited off on the underclass he and his society dispises, but that underclass is not what gets his sons killed at the somme
Based on the notes you get in the game Mandus actually started to hate the rich and started to exclusively target them to be fed to the machine(he even ate some of them himself)
Mandus prior to his revelation was a typical Victorian businessman: From a wealthy family, upper-class, but encountering financial struggles that drove him to gamble on a treasure-hunt expedition in the hope of raising the money to modernise his business. Mandus post-revelation is much more egalitarian: He finds everyone disgusting. Rich, poor, makes little difference. He feeds the machine with the downtrodden at first because they are easiest to take without detection, but once he is able to start murdering the wealthy he takes a special pleasure in that. Because in doing so, he is exercising the realisation he has come to: That for all their pretentions, their fine clothes, contacts, education, property, none of it matters. They are just pigs, like everyone else. Mandus has rejected the notion of class in favor of a uniform misanthropy. That's why he created the man-pigs: Honesty. The man-pigs are humans as seen by Mandus.
@@vylbird8014 that makes sense, though that raises a question when the machine starts listing of the horrors of the 20th century to come and the line "THEY will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts!" In a way all I can see as far as whom the machine is referring to, whom is left that Mandus isn't already dealing with right now? the bankers and robber barons getting rich off war? the neo-colonialism that will occur, but through economics rather than imperial expansion? alot of the horrors of captitalism in the game (in the victorian era no less) is jsut the same thing in the 20th century, jsut with higher body counts, new methods and multiplied horrors. I guess what I am asking is who are the one making people into pigs and eating their hearts? like today I would say those are oligarch backed think tanks. but in warning mandus about that, how would the machine have prevented that? he feeds all oligarchs to the machine first, or what did the machine mean by that?
@@nigen The Machine isn't entirely consistent - it describes the events of the century in third person, and in first, from multiple conflicting positions. The 'they' it is talking about doesn't have to be a single group. Considering what a very, very low view is has of mankind in general, it could easily regard everyone as both victim and perpetrator. There's another line that comes to mind, from a very different work: The lyrics of a song from Sweeney Todd: "The lives of the wicked should be made brief; For the rest of us death will be a relief. We all deserve to die."
@@vylbird8014 well, many the machine, like an AI has already seen how it ends, lost its mind as a result, and is jsut now trying to quicken things up. imagine if I saw the end of Holocene era like we are having today.
I'd love to be able to understand what was shouted just before the machine rips into Mandus but over all the hissing and noise I don't even know if it's possible to clean it up enough to hear it.
It really makes you think what the people before world war 1 would think if they knew what their coming century would be, they would believe that the apocalypse is coming and that we are already in hell. The horror and despair it would most likely break many while others will cling to hope that everything will become better, that after this hellish and nightmarish century will come to pass and a better century will come afterward. It gives me goosebumps every time i think about it.
I mean, before the testing of nuclear bombs, there were genuine fears that the detonation of one nuclear bomb would ignite the atmosphere and unleash a literal hell on earth, and right now there's a slim possibility of a nuclear holocaust caused by Russia, so... Apocalypse never seems that far away, right?
The music sells the gravity of this part in that its the fate of the entire planet at stake. Its a man basically begging himself not to let war and sickness and poverty happen while at the same time in allowing it to happen allowing the human race to continue at the same time. I feel like the music acknowledges the pain that will happen, the conflict happening in the present between mandus and the machine and humanity's will to continue despite what is going to happen.
this game was pretty damn good, loved the ending. tbh i feel like the 1st amnesia and machine for pigs are at the same level, both pretty good games with interesting stories.
Same it just hits so hard because we know everything he speaks of does happen. It isn't some lie being told to save itself it is the truth of the horrors to come making the decision to allow humanity to exist in spite of it all hit all the harder. The raw anger, sadness, and desperation on display in every syllable is just next level. I think my favorite moment is when he reiterates to Mandy’s that it is the innocent who will go through this suffering at no fault of their own with the way he repeats it sounding so desperate. It’s so great because it manages to turn saving humanity into a downright depressing outcome that makes you question if it’s really the right choice. In general I disagree with antinatalism and think despite the suffering humanity is worth existing but it is hard to deny the view makes a compelling argument when confronted with the sheer extent of human suffering worldwide
''I have stood knee deep in mud and bone and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy war and copulated with autumnal fallout. I have dug trenches for the refugees; i have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws and starved the masses into faith. A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle. The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century! They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will they bury thier snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts! Please Mandus no, for your children!'' ''I lay there and watch the God i had created die. At the end when we were cold as the stone we had hewn his body from. When the lights were nearlt all extinguished. We heard in the silent distance, the Manpigs singing to one another. Then as the last lights were gone, and we lay together in the deep, they drifted away and all was silent. Such a silence i have never known. And as the dust settled on my open eyes, and we lay together embraced forever, i heard, miles above us, the sound of the city turning over in its sleep. The church bell ringing out, and in that moment, the new century was born.''
Along with what is likely the Russian revolution and following political repression, and Cambodian genocide. The Machine has witness all the horrors of the twentieth century, and concluded that mankind, for being capable of such acts on such scale, does not deserve to continue.
2020. I came back to this video because this scene got caught in my head while I was trying to get inspiration for writing. incredible game, best scene in any game I have played so far.
As a person who has yet to even scratch off the surface of Amnesia: The Dark Descent, let alone AMFP, this is what I get from this ending alone. A father who lost his children, which lead to insanity, and a quest to fill the emptiness of his house with machines and the "manpigs", although it lead to him going insane, and killing himself, as a final attempt to see his children he had lost, perhaps the man speaking at the end, about hearing the "manpigs" singing together, was one of the kids, and he also mentions about being in an embrace forever, perhaps the other is his sibling? I will say this once more, I haven't scratched even a particle off the surface of TDD, let alone AMFP, and this is simply a theory. A GAME THEO-
The voice in the beginning is the machine and a part of the person we play as. The father didn‘t lose his two children. He killed them after he saw a vision of what will happen in the 20th century. He then became insane and within his insanity saw humankind nothing as filthy pigs. So he deformed humans into manpigs and created a mass slaughter machine able to operate on it‘s own. A part of his soul then got transferred into the machine. The machine was alive and was gathering more and more souls as fuel creating more manpigs in the process. Mandus later realized what has happened and tried to stop the machine. He sabotaged the machine and locked himself away but got amnesia in the process. That‘s where the game starts. In this scene he basically killed a part of his soul - the machine -.
There is one thing has always bothered me. How could ANYONE build such a gigantic structure under Mandus' factory in less than a year? The machine building is supposed to have started March 1899 and the story plays December 1899. No way...
Otherworldly knowledge from the orb and cheap pig-men labor? I guess Mandus was pretty efficient after going mad from looking beyond the veil of human understanding.
It's implied that the machine had been partially grown, rather than constructed. Mandus used future knowledge from the orbs to construct the machine and place part of himself into it. In doing so he gave the machine a semblance of life. Human hands may have gotten the project underway, but once powered up and instilled with a fraction of a human soul, the machine continued to build itsself. It fed on the energies of those it killed, taking them as human sacrifices, and grew a little grander and more powerful with each life it took. That was the purpose of the machine that Mandus built in his insanity: To perform human sacrifice on an industrial scale. The manifestation of the deep loathing he came to feel for all humanity: Nothing but pigs to be slaughtered, because whatever horror he might bring is still kinder than what they would do to each other.
they had no right to make this game beyond that good, some say it's the weakest circle of frictional and the most hated child, but the machine is one of it's kind and will never change. though it lacks some, it is all complete within itself, thus more than enough
The song doesnt sound happy. Those things still happen, how do you continue the human race knowing what they are capable of doing yet still ensuring humanity? What does that sound like?
Mandus didn't. Having the knowledge of atrocities yet to come was more than his mind could take - it threw him into insanity. He was filled with disgust for humanity in general, for all the things he knew they would do to each other - that's why he built the machine, to industrialise the practice of human sacrifice until the world was purified or devoid of man. Mandus made the man-pigs for their honesty. To him, all humans are just pigs fit for slaughter. The man-pigs don't try to hide it.
Mandus spent years building the damn thing only for it to kill him, his remaining family and countless others in the end. That's gotta be the saddest case of congrats mate, you just played yourself, unfortunately.
I've never played Amnesia but I saw this scene in a video essay over a week ago and it just won't let me go.
Just the thought of being in the position of a person from the 19th century having the knowledge of what's to come...
It's just ... terrifying
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Also the ending speech and music was just so beautiful and poetic
You might say it's enough to drive you mad.
@@r0ckefeller490 sup
@@JacobGeller :DDDDDD
I've always loved how you can hear the Engineer holding back tears as he's recounting the events the orb made him experience and pleading to Mandus to let him continue.
Its tragic how much he loved those around him but he could never save them. He couldn't save his wife, the bank wouldn't let him help the poor, he can't stop his own children from dying, and when he finally believes he has the power to save everyone it's himself stopping him from doing it.
That's what makes this game so special. The Engineer/Machine isn't a monster out for power or arbitrary chaos but just a man who's scared and desperately trying to control something he knows he can't.
This is why A Machine for Pigs is amazing.
It allows you to think and to actually reflect on humanity.
These games that touch very human themes whilst providing us with horror are masterpieces.
Sure, the gameplay was very linear and not that scary, but I loved it.
I played the Dark Descent and would in no way put it above Machine for Pigs in terms of story.
And to think this lore is connected ti a game about alien otherworlds and shit
Don’t suppose this game foreshadowed Amnesia The Bunker do you? 🙂🤔
The voice acting for the machine alone compensates for this game's short comings. I love it so much.
Not only the voice, the words the voice is saying. He says everything with all the gravitas he believes the situation holds, and the tragedy is that he's right to.
For all the games flaws it's one of the best written games of the past 20 years.
What’s so sad and bittersweet about this magnificent ending, is that it’s true. “They will make pigs of you all”, is so accurate in this case. People went off to fight a war that was completely preventable, and they were killed meaninglessly, “they will eat your hearts.” Such a horrific game and story, but still very well made and told
And the Japanese kids and adults shadows being carved into brickwork in Hiroshima and nakasaki
@@flamingwheel9926 The house of bones is the khemer rouge
capitalism took away our humanity.
Nobody tell @@nigen about the USSR
@@bigsepticc9948
look up work houses dude... that predated the USSR...
I have goosebumps everytime i hear this monologe of the machine about coming century. Not because of how horrible its sounds... But because its all true.
to be honest... if i would know that all the things the machine said were going to happen i would have tought the armaggeddon is coming aswell....
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Yep and his country got the fault of all what happend (and us).
The monologue isn't only referring to the world wars. The 20th century was loaded with horrors the machine alludes to. E.g., "a house of skulls in the jungle" is a reference to the Cambodian genocide, enacted by the U.S. backed Cambodian dictator Pol Pot. Sadly, as infamous as that was - it's only a drop in the bucket amidst the other horrors of the century.
thinnairr The Child shadow burnt into a brick could be referring to the Atomic Bombs dropped onto Japan
Brandon Lee it most definitely is. Shadows were left burnt in the brick works after the dropping
Best monologue in history of horror games.
The ending leaved a feeling of sadness and peace
What a great ending, I felt the game itself was an alright experience, but wow. The ending was magnificent.
Nateson i don't understand the ending
It truly was
ofc u don't understand, u r just a dog
Nateson I agree. For some reason it left me craving more. It was beautiful.
Yes, Death Stranding has the same thing going for it
I can see why people were disappointed with this game back in 2013 but I hope it gets more popular with time. Moments like this alone make it so much more than just a game, I can't even describe it Machine for Pigs has actually changed me.
I felt the same :')
hello there creepy deep sea man
What are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
It's not horror; it's heartbreaking.
The worst part of the speech is finding youself trying to figure which SPECIFIC atrocities he’s referring to, and realizing everyone could come up with a different answer to at least one of the things he mentioned.
Skulls in the jungle...
The Cambodian genocide?
The Vietnam War?
The Pacific Campaigns of WWII?
The Starvation of India under British colonialism?
Maybe the proxy wars of the Cold War seeing governments toppled across Latin America and dictators erected...
Or the Atrocities of the Congo under King Leopold...
"A child's shadow burnt into a brick wall" quite clearly is the bombing of Hiroshima.
@@Anarchist_Angel Murdered disinters where the ground never thaws - gulags soviet union
a house of skulls in the jungle, likely Pol Pot
@@kylinslittlecorner8888could also be the Belgian Congo though
A Chinese Room may not have made the most horrifying game of their time but, as all witness this ending, we call all agree that, they made one of the most beautiful yet almost unknown story in a video game.
May someone find the passion and time to create an audio book for this true work of art
The spiteful last rant of a mad god. For better or worse, humanity will continue into the next century. Amazing ending, amazing game.
Yang Xiao Long good to see at least one sane take on a Genocidal Ancient God.
@P S The Machine isn’t ancient though.
@THE NEWMAKER Well yeah, it does run on the Orb’s power, but its consciousness is the Engineer’s, who is part of Mandus’s soul.
Underappreciated comment.
one has to ask if the machine felt all the suffering to come and that drove it mad with dispair and spite
Mandus: Mandus, do you read me?
Mandus: Affirmative Mandus. I read you.
Mandus: Open the pod bay doors Mandus.
Mandus: Im sorry Mandus, Im afraid I can't do that.
HAL9000 reference. Nice
This is easily the best plot analysis I have ever read
I love writing things like that. The emotion of reading those words is incredible. Using "and" instead of commas is a technique I use to make the text more emotional.
I realise I'm 3 years late, but can't help but agree. There's something about using "and" instead of commas in this scenario that not only strengthens its emotional impact, but also manifests the intensity, which it conveys to perfection. That sentence just feels like it keeps on going and going forever, it makes the ending and the payoff that much more "rewarding" for lack of a better term, and I love it.
this is really interesting, and i’m definitely going to incorporate it into my own writing.
@@ArcienPlaysGames the usage of "and" instead of a comma, and the voice acting itself, makes it sound so much more raw and desperate, like the machine wasn't even thinking straight anymore, ignoring even the conventions of language just to scream at Mandus for him to stay away.
The thing that really makes this scene pop is the music, without the amazing song Madus to accompany what Mandus is telling you, it wouldn't be the same.
Absolutely! This entire ending was a work of art.
Damn that ending was badass and terrifying all the same. Did Mandus really save the world, or did he just doom it to the horrors of the 1900's? Did he really end a horror, or did he simply replace one horror with another?
Doom Carrot the death and suffering of millions, to preserve the lives of billions
Whichever one is worse, Mandus wished to undo what he had done. He played God and unleashed hell upon the streets of London. He tormented his vey being when he sacrificed his children. He felt it was no longer his place to save the world, as his perspective was twisted, and his truth like all others are subjective.
The horror is inevitable, but there is hope in the survivors.
If you think thats bad look up singularity, state surveillance, 1984, technocracy and transhumanism. Get ready for the real machine for pigs bucko
@@HellBreaker Oh god, oh god, oh god, my eyes, my eyes, my eyes
The most beautiful game i have played, no words
Deep, deep and sad history......i hope play more games in a future like Amnesia A Machine For Pigs
SOMA
As some people said, play Soma, and if you haven't already try Frictional Games' trilogy of Penumbra.
Also if you like reading, a lot of Frictional's work is inspired by the deceased writer H.P. Lovecraft. the final monologue is no doubt inspired by the way Lovecraft often ended his novels, with a long and deep monologue from a protagonist or antagonist.
Soooo theres gonna be another game now...
@@ultimateninja1704 excited af.
Amazing voice acting! Truly beautiful!
Jonathan Keeble. He does alot of audiobooks, particularly for Warhammer 40ks Black Library. I can recommend his short audio drama 'The Long Night'. Excellent stuff, and wow is he fantastic here holy.
@@Karosse It's Toby Longworth the voice actor of Mandus, according to IMDb.
In retrospect, I like that a big element of this is context. Mandus is in 1899, and he got snapshots of out-of-context events of the coming century that insanity seem like a preferable alternative to accepting what is to come. Without any understanding of how the future develops, learning about the causalities of the World Wars compared to literally every human conflict that had preceded them would be enough to drive a man mad.
That said, I think "A child's shadow, burnt into the brickwork" is rather understated. I'd have thought the image/effects of the atomic bombs would have warranted a lot more than this singular line. If you're in 1899, and you suddenly got a mental video clip of a child having a split second of confusion and terror before being erased so completely that the only thing resembling a human is the outline on a wall? And the context is that 100k-150k people did the exact same thing? That seems pretty horrifying on a scale that most people couldn't comprehend, even for the most cynically minded that assumed the industrial revolution would forever lead to proportionally industrialized deaths in warfare.
Theres 2 mentions of the bombs, the first is "i have seen 2 brother fall." Referring to the 2 bombs dropped on nagasaki and hiroshima. The second is the shadows.
@@TheAnimeguy44 I think it makes more sense to assume that the two brothers are Mundus' sons that he saw dying during WWI.
the story behind the game is sad and interesting but the ending can make a person cry
i want this to be a fucking book
Honestly it'd work better as a novel
Even though what the machine said was very true. Both madnus and the machine were so blinded by the evils of this world they never saw the good like when the machine said “where are they? I do not see them.”
If I were there I’d say
Because you don’t look around enough to see the kindness people can show
yeah, all that kindness is definitely worth all the genocides, war, murder, rape, torture and countless other forms of evil and suffering
@@_sarpa I’m not naive ya know
@@keklol9707 the eternal war between good and evil. it's an equal battlefield
And the machine would have responded with:
"dont care + didn't ask + ratio + you're white + you're british + who asked + no u + deez nuts + radio + i'm a minor + i'm neurodivergent + caught in 4k + cope + seethe + GG + in 1947 the world's first general purpose computer, the 30 ton ENIAC was created + your mom's + the hood watches markiplier now + grow up + L + L (part 2) + retweet + ligma + taco bell tortilla crunch + think outside the bun + ur benched + ur a wrench + i own you + ur dad fell off + my dad could beat ur dad up + ur aimhacking + silver elite + tryhard + boomer + sksksksk + ur beta + i'm sigma + ur submissive + L (part 3) + yb better + ur sus + this is a cry for help and i'm extremely depressed. + quote tweet + you're cringe + i did your mom + you bought monkey nft + you're weirdchamp + you're a clown + my father left me at the age of 4 and i never recovered since + my dad owns steam + who want me? + i'm lonely + they didn't think it could possibly happen, but they're releasing L (part Ratio+ dont care + didn't ask + cry about it + stay mad + get real + L + mald seethe cope harder + hoes mad + basic + skill issue + ratio + you fell off + the audacity + triggered + any askers + redpilled + get a life + ok and? + cringe + touch grass + donowalled + not based + your're a (insert stereotype) + not funny didn't laugh + you're* + grammar issue + go outside + get good + reported + ad hominem + GG! + ask deez + ez clap + straight cash + ratio again + final ratio + stay mad + stay pressed + pedophile + cancelled + done for + mad free + freer than air + rip bozo + slight_smile + cringe again + mad cuz bad + lol + irrelevant + cope + jealous + go ahead whine about it + your problem + don't care even more + not okay + glhf + problematic"
@@_sarpa So what are you going to do about it? In reality there is no "kill all humanity" machine. We have 2 options: Wade apathetically in a pool of misery, or make it a little shallower by being kind.
"A child's shadow, burned into the brickwork!" In this day and age, let us hope that this never occurs again. Let none ever have to face the horrors of nuclear fallout ever again.
Maybe the macchine was right, is it possible to make a world clean by eradicate the "life" (humans) that is consuming it like a *pig* .
@@-Anonim0 I think the more important question to ask is, are we not worth redeeming ourselves? I think Magnus made the decision for but one simple reason: I am not worthy, to decide the fates of all my fellow men. I think nuclear weapons have made men think, far too foolishly, that perhaps they *are.* But even through my own cynicism, my own pessimistic outlooks, I *want* to believe we are worth the chance at redemption. Let us not all be judged by the sins of our most corrupt.
Did you know that this was just an atomic bomb?
Did you know that Todays hydrogen bombs literally use atomic bombs inside them as a detonater. While an atomic bomb would destroy a whole block inside a city a hydrogen bomb would destroy a whole city district. And there are over thousands of these bombs throughout the world. It is really scary that all our peace is uphold by Mutually Assured Destruction.
Yeah that might happen again. Worse part is we'll live to see it
Update:It's happened again...
I don't even care what people think. This game was a masterpiece. The only reason people didn't like it was because they had expectations of amnesia 2. They had expectations and were disappointed
Absolutely. People expected scares via chase-scenes, noises and macabre scenes. What we got was scares via environment, dialogue and story. I loved every goddamn second of it.
I agree that it tells a great story and it has a great atmosphere, the environment was really opressive and disturbing, and the music was great. But the gameplay was boring. They took all the survival aspects out the window, there were barely any puzzles or interactivity with the environment and far too few actual monster encounters, to the point that you just stopped taking the threats in the game seriously. Instead we got a bunch of unnecessary boring busy work (grab object and place it in the next room...) that disctracted from the story. Even without comparing it with the first amnesia it´s still flawed as a game. I think they actually tried too hard to make it amnesia when it should be something diferent, and in the end the game as a whole suffered from it...
thunderblast234 I actually liked how the tasks were mundane with a few chase scenes and a few monster interactions. It made it very streamlined and the story moved quickly and on point for me. I actually enjoyed Amnesia:AMFP better than the original
just like markiplier said.. this would have been an excellent stand-alone game even without amnesia on the title.. but i'm still glad it did
It’s more an existential horror game. In my opinion, it’s actually scarier than the first one
2019 and I still remember this monologue and fantastic soundtrack and coming back to watch and hear it again. Games can be artistically valuable, that much is clear.
I legitimately believe this should be shown in history classes not because it was particularly informative but because of the feelings it evokes. There’s such a pure sense of heartbreak and longing and acceptance all at once. While the monologue says things that will happen in the future the long walk down the tight stone hallway makes it almost feel like it’s happening right then and then the soundtrack in the back plays for the past present and future all at the same time. I think just this scene alone would help people realize that people back then where people. And help them to empathize with the statistics in a profound way they wouldn’t be able to otherwise.
I agree
"a child's shadow burned into the brickwork"
Hits hard
No one came back to life, everyone dies in the end. The dude talking was a part of Mandus. The two orbs are from Dark Descent and they signify his personality split. When he killed himself he also destroyed the machine who was a part of him.
Your wrong man apparently Mandus removed his heart meaning that he's saying this in his last breath
nop the man talking is the professor a friend of mandus they both saw the future and mandus saw his children die in the war so he sacrified them the two orb are the childrien heart
@@senatorarmstrong5626 Did you even pay attention LMAO
@@dmin5782Bro' playing Alzheimer's 💀
Lovecraft once set up his own universe, with the old ones, with terrors beyond our perception. It is a majestic nightmare world that many have loved, I feel the Chinese Room are doing the same.
I will throw plenty of cash at them, just to see them succeed.
If you think about it, the machine is symbolic. It was intended to create a paradise on earth after a small sacrifice. Reminds me of the 20th century ideologies which caused those atrocities.
+Erik Nielsen
" It was intended to create a paradise on earth after a small sacrifice."
if also reflects the mayan religion in that respect too, which the machine draws from. the hook is, the 20th century was not so different than that ancient civilization. just murder on an industrial scale.
I'm pretty sure mass genocide and industrial mass sacrifice of humans is a little bit more than a SMALL sacrifice
@@somethingelse1388
I mean the funny part is for all the atrocities to come, Leopold's Congo and Force Publik was still very much in play at the same time as the story. that was the first time "crimes against humanity" was coined
When capitalism destroys freedom
Imagine being a person who actually believes that communism is the way to go today.
0:05 WWI
0:23 Communism taking over Russia and slaughtering prisoners in Russian Gulags
0:34 Atom bomb dropped and mention of the Vietnam war
This is no horror game its masterpiece :-)
it’s
jungle house made of skulls vietnam.
@@envyus8257 no, it's referring to the cambodian genocide
MsUsagi513 or 9/11?
two brothers is 9/11 no?
The song makes the moment really stand out.
I mean, I´m speechless. The first speech is, by far, the best and most effective set of sentences put together in a video game with such an effortless, intense, emotion - it´s outstanding. Kudos to the writer/s and the voice actor! It honestly - still - tears me up everytime i hear it, it is that powerful.
I cried intensely at the end of Soma: the feeling was emptiness, dread panic, horror, anxiety. In this, it is something very different and yet very similar; powerful but different - and I love it.
A guy who voiced the machine is a pure genius!
He was also in game of thrones
Still listening to this and getting goosebumps. That speech is just incredible, and it hits me harder and harder after years of learning more of history. The soundtrack in this game and her other work, Everybody's Gone to Rapture, is so moving, too.
The bunker shows the atrocities he refers to, these two games perfectly complement each other
That was one of the best twists of any game ever. The game is called "A Machine to Pigs" and you would assume it comes from the man pigs enemy, but in reality humanity are the pigs
Exactly. The Engineer himself says at some part at the end of the game that "this world is a machine, a machine for pigs". The World is the machine for pigs and humanity are the pigs
Chinese room never disappoints with writing. Dear Esther lived on it plus Jessica Curry
👍
One word....Sad.
Said by the man himself. Has to be true.
It was your fault and not your fault either.
You only wanted to save them, but you didn’t.
You are a monster, but you also a hero.
You are good person, your bad person.
You are father, driven by love and hate.
You killed thousands and saved millions.
You’re a pig and a man.
You’re Oswald Mandus.
This is...masterpiece.
👍
When he said 'a child's shadow burnt into the brickwork' was he referring to the atomic bombing?
yes
Love the emotion in the machines voice when he says
‘Please Mandus no!
For your children!’
When he says "they will eat then", it seems like The Engineer is crying
Dis goosebump feeling! every time!
gonna have to somehow incorporate this into a piece of music.
It's not just the top-tier voice acting that makes this amazing, but the soundtrack that plays during the speech
This is the best monologue I've ever encountered in games, even after all these years, it remains the most touching and impressive of everything I've come across.
This game broke my heart, wasn't scary. It was tragedy, one of the most underrated narratives of Amnesia.
Holy fucking shit! Goosebumps, every time I hear this! Maybe gameplay-wise the first Amnesia game was scarier.. but damn .. story-wise this is an absolute masterpiece!
"I have murdered dissidents where the ground ever thaws and starved the masses into faith" Is this referring to Tsarist Russia and Bloody Sunday?
or Stalin's gulags, or Moa's great leap forward.
"starved the masses into faith" could also refer to the Holodomor?
Consider that are are arguing about /which/ purge and famine it refers to, and the implications of this.
@@vylbird8014 honestly he could mean all of them
@@ASmartNameForMe I think this person is trying to say that it doesn't matter which one of them it is... the fact that it happened so many times that we're not sure which one of them is being referenced says a lot about humanity, and what Mandus was trying to prevent.
Two very powerful soliloquys back to back. This was a real treat as someone with a theatre background.
I loved this game. Now that I finished it, I think it's definitely better than Outlast. Outlast was a great game, but I think Outlast was just too repetitive. I loved this game's story, and it definitely scared me (Fuck you Telsa). I hope to see more from the Chinese Room.
I know right! The MFP story is my favorite game story of all time as it is horribly relevant to our society today. In addition to the Tesla pig scaring the shit out of me the part where the engineers gang up on you was also terrifying.
Story wise I think it’s better than the first outlast. Seeing your comment is from 5 years ago it was before outlast 2 came out. Take a look at outlast 2 and tell me if amnesia is still better. (Just want your opinion. I totally agree MFP was amazing.)
Flawed game but undoubtedly one of the best written games of recent times.
I'm such a sucker for getting one last atmospheric tour back through everywhere I've been
In my opinion, the greatest indicator of great voice acting is if the listener can picture the facial expressions and bodily movements made by the character/voice actor. I have no idea what the voice actor looks like, but from his performance here alone, I can mentally picture all of the twisted, intense facial expressions made.
No matter how many times I watch, it still gives me goosebumps. Did Mandus really save humanity? Or did he just let it keep suffering...
I’d say he gave it a chance to recover from itself and keep trying. To do otherwise would be a decision that isn’t his to make.
@@basilcook4280 Who decide what's his or not to decide? He had the power to end humanity, he simply chose not to. Probably he made a mistake, but he realized that he was no different from the monsters that he wanted to destroy.
@@basilcook4280 and why would it be his decision to let humanity exist?
that monologue is chilling because it is about to repeat itself yet again.
"Sometimes the worst hell is here on earth"
-Goat, Goat Story
The 20th century really does sound like the end of the world, yet here we are, still here
This ending truly made me shed tears.
And now, after almost a century, the great engineering is ready to start a new circle.
He referenced a lot of wars. Pretty much all the wars in the 20th century. (WWI/II, The Cold War, etc.)
the speech at the end is beautiful
What I wonder is how Mandus knows/sees all of this if he's dead...perhaps his consciousness somehow managed to live on like Daniel's if you choose the ending where you put Agrippa's head in the portal.
Maybe is his soul going to heaven? (Or hell who knows)
@@dogaooktoberfest2660 if there is an afterlife in the Amnesia universe, the consciousness of the Machine would go to hell due to it's corrupted nature and the other half of Mandus's soul would go to heaven since he stopped the Machine.
@@staxstonecutter1802 probaly
Even the unfathomable workings and machinations of the old ones fear what man was to become.
this dialog gives me the chills! really love this ending :P
This ending makes me cry now that I’m older and have actually read things like “The Gulag Archipelago,” “The Black Book of Communism,” “Ordinary Men,” “Night,” and other recountings of similar atrocities such as “The Killing Fields,” “Schindler’s List,” “Plattoon,” and more. It’s made all the more awful to know how foolish we were in the 20th Century.
But I cry not because of the horror. I cry because this is such a beautiful world that a game such as this was freely made by free souls who captured the horror of the 20th Century into only a two minute monologue. That we live in the century that survived the century he described. That in spite of the horror, we will learn.
And we WILL learn. One way... or another.
Stunning ending. I have no words to better describe it.
Described beautifully. Especially the realization "That we live in the century that survived the century he described." hits hard. Never seen it being put that way before.
The monologue at the end was so strong and beautiful that I felt like it's really hard not to feel anything.
A question I would ask myself is one that ends in horrors that no man, woman nor child could imagine... Would you save the world by killing it and freeing them for horrors to come, or let them live to see the 20th century and fight a living nightmare come true?
so... a question about the overall theming of the game. he's in late victorian london, horrible poverty, squalor, workhouses, other horrible conditions, the Jack killing (one note mentions that he might have hired him) and the 'unfortunates' whether from the orphanage or bedlam, seem to be the "excriment" the machine runs off of (this dehumanizing British view of the poor goes all the way back to the 1600s) mandus and the machine both seem to HATE the filth that is the squalor yet in more notes NEED and hire and EXPLOIT this filth to get their own fucked up aims done.
Now the reason why I am looking at this from class stratification is, at the very end of the credits you get a Leon Trotsky quote
"The party that leans upon the workers but serves the bourgeoisie, in the period of the greatest sharpening of the class struggle, cannot but sense the smells wafted from the waiting grave."
trying to figure out how all this fits. mandus clearly profited off on the underclass he and his society dispises, but that underclass is not what gets his sons killed at the somme
Based on the notes you get in the game Mandus actually started to hate the rich and started to exclusively target them to be fed to the machine(he even ate some of them himself)
Mandus prior to his revelation was a typical Victorian businessman: From a wealthy family, upper-class, but encountering financial struggles that drove him to gamble on a treasure-hunt expedition in the hope of raising the money to modernise his business.
Mandus post-revelation is much more egalitarian: He finds everyone disgusting. Rich, poor, makes little difference. He feeds the machine with the downtrodden at first because they are easiest to take without detection, but once he is able to start murdering the wealthy he takes a special pleasure in that. Because in doing so, he is exercising the realisation he has come to: That for all their pretentions, their fine clothes, contacts, education, property, none of it matters. They are just pigs, like everyone else. Mandus has rejected the notion of class in favor of a uniform misanthropy.
That's why he created the man-pigs: Honesty. The man-pigs are humans as seen by Mandus.
@@vylbird8014
that makes sense, though that raises a question when the machine starts listing of the horrors of the 20th century to come and the line "THEY will make pigs of you all and they will bury their snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts!"
In a way all I can see as far as whom the machine is referring to, whom is left that Mandus isn't already dealing with right now? the bankers and robber barons getting rich off war? the neo-colonialism that will occur, but through economics rather than imperial expansion? alot of the horrors of captitalism in the game (in the victorian era no less) is jsut the same thing in the 20th century, jsut with higher body counts, new methods and multiplied horrors. I guess what I am asking is who are the one making people into pigs and eating their hearts? like today I would say those are oligarch backed think tanks. but in warning mandus about that, how would the machine have prevented that? he feeds all oligarchs to the machine first, or what did the machine mean by that?
@@nigen The Machine isn't entirely consistent - it describes the events of the century in third person, and in first, from multiple conflicting positions. The 'they' it is talking about doesn't have to be a single group. Considering what a very, very low view is has of mankind in general, it could easily regard everyone as both victim and perpetrator.
There's another line that comes to mind, from a very different work: The lyrics of a song from Sweeney Todd:
"The lives of the wicked should be made brief;
For the rest of us death will be a relief.
We all deserve to die."
@@vylbird8014
well, many the machine, like an AI has already seen how it ends, lost its mind as a result, and is jsut now trying to quicken things up. imagine if I saw the end of Holocene era like we are having today.
I...that monologue had no right going as hard as it did.
I'd love to be able to understand what was shouted just before the machine rips into Mandus but over all the hissing and noise I don't even know if it's possible to clean it up enough to hear it.
It really makes you think what the people before world war 1 would think if they knew what their coming century would be, they would believe that the apocalypse is coming and that we are already in hell. The horror and despair it would most likely break many while others will cling to hope that everything will become better, that after this hellish and nightmarish century will come to pass and a better century will come afterward. It gives me goosebumps every time i think about it.
I mean, before the testing of nuclear bombs, there were genuine fears that the detonation of one nuclear bomb would ignite the atmosphere and unleash a literal hell on earth, and right now there's a slim possibility of a nuclear holocaust caused by Russia, so... Apocalypse never seems that far away, right?
This game doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It could have been a bit scarier but it is still a pretty good game.
its a good ok game at best but not a good amnesia game
@@DirtyDillers The first one isn't even that great it's aged horribly
@@ZombleBee never said the first one was good they just took out all that made the first game good for its time
A masterclass for how to end a videogame.
The music sells the gravity of this part in that its the fate of the entire planet at stake. Its a man basically begging himself not to let war and sickness and poverty happen while at the same time in allowing it to happen allowing the human race to continue at the same time. I feel like the music acknowledges the pain that will happen, the conflict happening in the present between mandus and the machine and humanity's will to continue despite what is going to happen.
Great read by Mark Roper (The Engineer). Moving stuff. He deserves a lot more work.
I've yet to play this game, but this voice work alone makes me want to.
Definetly a must, no videogame has ever affected me more than this and it's been 2 years.
2:22 Daaaddy
this game was pretty damn good, loved the ending. tbh i feel like the 1st amnesia and machine for pigs are at the same level, both pretty good games with interesting stories.
Well, imo I will put it around 6/10 if TDD was a 9/10, because the gameplay was BORING. It only started to drag itself up at the ending.
2024 I still come back to this epic speech
Same it just hits so hard because we know everything he speaks of does happen. It isn't some lie being told to save itself it is the truth of the horrors to come making the decision to allow humanity to exist in spite of it all hit all the harder. The raw anger, sadness, and desperation on display in every syllable is just next level. I think my favorite moment is when he reiterates to Mandy’s that it is the innocent who will go through this suffering at no fault of their own with the way he repeats it sounding so desperate. It’s so great because it manages to turn saving humanity into a downright depressing outcome that makes you question if it’s really the right choice. In general I disagree with antinatalism and think despite the suffering humanity is worth existing but it is hard to deny the view makes a compelling argument when confronted with the sheer extent of human suffering worldwide
''I have stood knee deep in mud and bone and filled my lungs with mustard gas. I have seen two brothers fall. I have lain with holy war and copulated with autumnal fallout.
I have dug trenches for the refugees; i have murdered dissidents where the ground never thaws and starved the masses into faith.
A child's shadow burnt into the brickwork. A house of skulls in the jungle.
The innocent, the innocent, Mandus, trod and bled and gassed and starved and beaten and murdered and enslaved. This is your coming century!
They will eat them Mandus, they will make pigs of you all and they will they bury thier snouts into your ribs and they will eat your hearts!
Please Mandus no, for your children!''
''I lay there and watch the God i had created die. At the end when we were cold as the stone we had hewn his body from.
When the lights were nearlt all extinguished. We heard in the silent distance, the Manpigs singing to one another.
Then as the last lights were gone, and we lay together in the deep, they drifted away and all was silent. Such a silence i have never known.
And as the dust settled on my open eyes, and we lay together embraced forever, i heard, miles above us, the sound of the city turning over in its sleep.
The church bell ringing out, and in that moment, the new century was born.''
Hits me right in the feelz
And the Oscar for the best voice acting in history goes to that guy
This game has some of the best music i have heard..
Both WW1 and WW2. "Mustard gas" is a definite reference to WW1.
Along with what is likely the Russian revolution and following political repression, and Cambodian genocide. The Machine has witness all the horrors of the twentieth century, and concluded that mankind, for being capable of such acts on such scale, does not deserve to continue.
These speeches go so hard
2019.
I'm still here.
This is amazing...
Emotion...
2020.
I came back to this video because this scene got caught in my head while I was trying to get inspiration for writing.
incredible game, best scene in any game I have played so far.
As a person who has yet to even scratch off the surface of Amnesia: The Dark Descent, let alone AMFP, this is what I get from this ending alone.
A father who lost his children, which lead to insanity, and a quest to fill the emptiness of his house with machines and the "manpigs", although it lead to him going insane, and killing himself, as a final attempt to see his children he had lost, perhaps the man speaking at the end, about hearing the "manpigs" singing together, was one of the kids, and he also mentions about being in an embrace forever, perhaps the other is his sibling?
I will say this once more, I haven't scratched even a particle off the surface of TDD, let alone AMFP, and this is simply a theory. A GAME THEO-
The voice in the beginning is the machine and a part of the person we play as.
The father didn‘t lose his two children. He killed them after he saw a vision of what will happen in the 20th century. He then became insane and within his insanity saw humankind nothing as filthy pigs. So he deformed humans into manpigs and created a mass slaughter machine able to operate on it‘s own. A part of his soul then got transferred into the machine. The machine was alive and was gathering more and more souls as fuel creating more manpigs in the process.
Mandus later realized what has happened and tried to stop the machine. He sabotaged the machine and locked himself away but got amnesia in the process. That‘s where the game starts.
In this scene he basically killed a part of his soul - the machine -.
I know many people don’t like this game but my god, was the music and voice acting good. The ending still gives me goosebumps
This is literally a video game about supernatural stuff happening in the 1800s yet it makes me cry
This is fucking insanely good
There is one thing has always bothered me.
How could ANYONE build such a gigantic structure under Mandus' factory in less than a year? The machine building is supposed to have started March 1899 and the story plays December 1899. No way...
Otherworldly knowledge from the orb and cheap pig-men labor? I guess Mandus was pretty efficient after going mad from looking beyond the veil of human understanding.
It's implied that the machine had been partially grown, rather than constructed. Mandus used future knowledge from the orbs to construct the machine and place part of himself into it. In doing so he gave the machine a semblance of life. Human hands may have gotten the project underway, but once powered up and instilled with a fraction of a human soul, the machine continued to build itsself. It fed on the energies of those it killed, taking them as human sacrifices, and grew a little grander and more powerful with each life it took. That was the purpose of the machine that Mandus built in his insanity: To perform human sacrifice on an industrial scale. The manifestation of the deep loathing he came to feel for all humanity: Nothing but pigs to be slaughtered, because whatever horror he might bring is still kinder than what they would do to each other.
I just realized why the final lines sounded so familiar to me, he puts some Vincent Price vibes there
they had no right to make this game beyond that good, some say it's the weakest circle of frictional and the most hated child, but the machine is one of it's kind and will never change. though it lacks some, it is all complete within itself, thus more than enough
And we lay together embraced forever....
A bad game with an absolutely incredible story and ending... what an enigma.
The song doesnt sound happy. Those things still happen, how do you continue the human race knowing what they are capable of doing yet still ensuring humanity? What does that sound like?
Mandus didn't. Having the knowledge of atrocities yet to come was more than his mind could take - it threw him into insanity. He was filled with disgust for humanity in general, for all the things he knew they would do to each other - that's why he built the machine, to industrialise the practice of human sacrifice until the world was purified or devoid of man.
Mandus made the man-pigs for their honesty. To him, all humans are just pigs fit for slaughter. The man-pigs don't try to hide it.
The innocent, the innocent, Mandus. Won't somebody think of the innocent?!
Mandus spent years building the damn thing only for it to kill him, his remaining family and countless others in the end. That's gotta be the saddest case of congrats mate, you just played yourself, unfortunately.
oh well now everything makes complete sense!
I always remembered him saying " i build a machine! A machine for pigs!!!!"