Sabre Firebird is REBORN as PHOENIX (Stealth Tutorial)
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Star Citizen 3.23.1A and Sabre firebird is reborn like Phoenix. The new Star Citizen ship is boosted to 24 missiles and stealth reduction from -20 to - 40. Today we are going to put that to the test and we are going to learn together how to use stealth in Star Citizen ships.
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Crosssection value is dynamic depending on your angel towards your opponent and which radar size he has.
Source spviewer eu
CrosssectionValues / Top / Side / Front / - a value of 1,000 mean detection range is 1 km
Sabre Firebird / 4,441 / 5,174 / 646 /
Sabre / 3,331 / 3,880 / 485 /
Eclipse / 2,452 / 4,366 / 537 /
Howerver those values don't inculde/shows any additional stealth reductions you might have.
Also the detection range differs by the size of the Radar your foes have, but it seems thats Larger Radars are less effective in catching smol ships but are more effective in catching bigger ones.
For example: As you can see in the chart the Gladius detects another Gladius before the Polias can do and vise versa
the Polaris can detect another Polaris before the Gladius can detect that other Polaris.
vs Pick your choosen Ship / Gladius / Firebird / Mecury SR / Polaris* /
S0 Radar (Centurion) detects you at best at / 6,368 / 3,776 / 11,647 / 12,340 /
S1 Radar (Gladius) detects you at best at / 6,793 / 4,028 / 12,423 / 13,162 /
S2 Radar (Corair) detects you at best at / 7,642 / 4,532 / 13,976 / 14,808 /
S3 Radar (Idris*) detects you at best at / 8,066 / 4,783 / 14,753 / 15,630 /
S4 Radar (Polaris*) detects you at best at / 8,066 / 4,783 / 14,753 / 15,630 /
Sidenote i have the feeling that those / Top / Side / Front / are confusinge since that they are not what you think.
For example the Hammerhead has a / 6,037 / 39,312 / 8392 / so my best guess is that / Top is the face side / Side is the Backside / Front is your Side Profil /
Please correct me if my guess is wrong,
*temp values that might change
Have a great day ^^
Actually they need to buff missile damage against shield. missiles are supposed to be powerful and take down shield more easily than energy weapon because after all, a missile explosion is energy. But i heard missile are like ballistic weapon against shield. I fought a corsair a days ago and i literally used all my missiles to destroy it
The missile speed nerf sucks but S3s can still hit their target -barring de-sync. Since in MM almost all ships move like an overweight turtle 800+ m/s is plenty, especially if missiles are lunched at the1.5k km range. Stealth does work, i have been flying the Firebird in the past few days and the detection rate is not even close to that of an F8 or Inferno where i am spot miles away-that with the 20% signature reduction. The Firebird can sneak up on the target undetected but does require a different approach obviously.
Rented it during Invictus and messed around with it in some missions, and same thing kept happening to me as well. Even after both audio and visual confirmation of a target lock, it would just fire the missiles into the void. Weird.
I have also noticed the bug ... on some servers it works from time to time
The Firebird is an excellent support ship in a group with light or medium fighters.
"Why are the ships here bugged?" Well its star citizen. Thanks for the video though, didn't know anything had been done to stealth. Might need to test out the prowler today. good video
Yeah lol. Glad it served you. o7
I am curious on how the missle changes were affecting you in this patch? I am hopign these changes do not mkae it into live. the small missles seem the least affected. Unlike the size IV's and up (torps).
S9 are ridicule lol they fly so slow , Small missiles are ok.
I think some of the missile problems you had could also be related to the type of missiles. Thunderbolts target EM, and in my personal experience with them in LIVE they weren't very effective against targets under the size of a cutlass. Swtching to IR or CS missiles immediately made them much more effective. No idea if anything has changed in the new patch though.
Could be, thanks. Yeah missiles are nerfed in new patch, speed and lock range.
Can we see a video on 3.23.2? Missile changes are important. Also thanks for the tutorial on stealth.
This video is from 3.23.1a with missiles nerf. They are nerfing speed and lock range. Check erkel for more info.
Glad it served you. o7
@infinitespace239 Oh thanks! Great info!
I don't know, If this applies to PVE as well, but If you target another Player, he can aquire a target lock on you although you are not in detection range. So you should avoid locking on your target es long as possible.
PVE he can't target you. PVP you know someone has targeted you but you see who. So yes avoid targeting player as long as possible. o7
The Constellation Phoenix is a good upgrade for the Firebird indeed! 😂 Especially with the incoming missile speed nerf patch, where the Phoenix’s S1 missiles are the least affected. CIG being CIG I have the feeling, with all the current raging about that missile nerf, they might backtrack. We’ll see if the Firebird, and missile focused ships in general, remain feasible. o7
Lol 😂 yeah 👍
What livery is that in the video thumbnail? It looks so good.
I was just gonna ask the same loll.
It is concierge paint, but there is a bug showing blue paint instead of gold.
might as well melt this shit next patch
Iol I like the looks and sound.
I ended up melting my cutty red and my ursa and getting one of these.
Ouch.
Enjoy it my friend. o7
Stealth components don't do a thing ATM, they're the same as all other grade A components
Yes they do now, they change it.
whats the key for gsafe toggle?
You have to set it up in settings.
@@infinitespace239 thank you!
a) Missiles nerfed (Spektrum), b) stealth components have no stealth benefit (erkul)
Not on paper, but in reality they do.
can confirm that stealth components do lower the values in practice so b is just wrong
@@liamseven1604 ok thx!
Missles unerfed btw
@@McNuggetsOrElse Just readed that, untill 4.0 it stays like before.
The freelancer mis deserves double the payload if this light fighter can field the same volume of missiles... talk about broken
"Right now you can kill any ship without any problems..."
Yeah no problems at all! Except for the server straight up swallowing missiles, or missiles just ignoring your target and flying somewhere else, absolutely no problems! 🤦
Yeah, I said that in video when server works perfect when not thaaaaam lol
CIG: Sells a missile based fighter and announces the Polaris coming this year
Also CIG: Nerfs missiles into the ground, even though they were already garbage
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Also, stealth component do nothing for stealth since at least 3.15. All modules were "temporarily" made the same.
They gave an explanation for the reduced speed and reversed it today after finishing their tests, fyi.
@@McNuggetsOrElse Only for torps everything else still got the speed and range nerfs/buffs.
This ship design would be perfect if not for the protruded tail section, that part ruins the otherwise perfect looking ship.
Yeah, but it is needed to reduce engine heat and exhaust.
@@infinitespace239 haha, I appreacite your sarcasm
@@Sanjarih 😅🐦🔥🤭
Firebird is a complete pile right now. At this point its just an LTI token to me.
Stealth against npc ships is not working, they always detect you
They don't look at video.
Missiles are nerfed in next patch, phoenix ? i will say more like pidgeon hahahahaha...
Not really. Missiles have been super unbalanced since 3.23, with the reduced speeds from MM. Most missiles could travel faster than any ship could travel even in NAV mode. Now they're slow enough that players can outrun them if their ships are fast enough, giving players the opportunity to evade missiles even in NAV mode.
Lol 🤣 yeah
Don't feel sorry for the pigeon... Feel sorry for the retaliator bomber and the eclipse. Ships that were already bad are now completely useless
@@harabecswurveweathers The only thing that needed to be done to fix that problem is make countermeasures actually work. All torpedoes can be outrun by ships in SCM mode now without even trying
@@IIITangentIII today's PTU build increases missile/torpedo speed. Thorston gave the example of Torpedoes being increased to 514/560m/s. And Countermeasures don't work on NAV mode so outrunning Missiles is your only option in that case.
CIG: "Let's get that Firebird out for Invictus...we need money!" Firebird sells slowly. "Double the missles!!!" Firebird sells a lot better. By mistake, someone publishes the missile nerf before it can be sneaked out. "WHO THE %^$* PUBLISHED THAT NERF???!!!"
Lol 😅
so basically u saw Cpt Foxyloxy's video and copied it. Got it.
Nah, he is talking about stats I am interested into my Firebird 🐦🔥 and basic how to turn on stealth mode. Love the Cpt Foxyloky, my favorite TH-camr for SC