Denisovans in Australia: The Discovery That Shook Evolution | Ancient Humans | Documentary

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  • @Pixie-l4x
    @Pixie-l4x 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I would like to know where this region is, I’d also like to explore the possibility that Tasmanian aborigines were more closely related to the Denisovans, the presentation is distinctly possible but your lack of evidence leaves the presentation no better than a fictional account, it is a topic that is very interesting, thanks, Norm Hart, Euroa, Victoria

    • @tysyzygy
      @tysyzygy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When I completed research that included considerations of archaic humans and hominin populations in the Moyjil site near Warrnambool in south-west Victoria four months ago, it was still under conjecture but indicated Material Culture evidence of human habitation, but no mention of human remains, and the study was still under investigation. There remained lots of controversial debate and dispute, as there always is. But it looked promising that at least the inhabitation 120KA was evident. The narrative in this video seems to have worked on the same premise that homo sapiens were not around in Australia at that point (Out of Africa Theory), which would leave the potential of HomoE or Denisovans to be identified as the colony. But it also claims bone fossil remains analysis. Could these be a jump to WLH50 or there has been further reassessment of existing/new human remains (which probably would be publicised as involving Indigenous sensitivity). But completing my research paper just a few months ago, there were no published findings that I know of about actual Denisovan fossil remains in Australia. However, my research is in the anthropology of consciousness as a cultural anthropology study and tracing what I know to be the human/hominin origins of a 'universal cosmology' transmitted through human populations as a symbolic communication. So I was not heavily invested in finding bone evidence - only ancient DNA and archaeological evidence of early migrations. Also, to me, the significance of whether they were humans, HE or Denisovan, was not critical to that phase of my study of symbolic transmission. There are frequent theoretical changes regarding human migration knowledge with the Out of Africa theory and the new knowledge about Neanderthal presence in Africa with new methylation techniques. But it seems a fairly obvious assumption that the author, hiding behind this AI, may have made by bringing together the same links- as you rightly point out -without providing any sources or journalistic validation of facts. So it is possible more findings and more testing have been carried out, but if so, and if anyone knows the publication - or at least the university team/professionals responsible, let us know!. I have an embargo on my paper publication due to a book publishing this year, and it is not solely related to Australia.
      In SE Asia migration path of homo erectus in travelling at least to NT, and Torres Strait, Tiwi Islands area there are other discussions that positions the travel of Homosapiens and/or Denisovans into Flores by boat - correlating with the finds in the Mediterranean 1 MA and forward that also includes evidence of sea craft travel. They certainly didn't get washed up in Australia by a Tsunami as one group of scientists suggest. You need at least 40 to start a repopulation and resilient community. Apart from stating that human remains were found, much of the material seems to be a homogenisation of WLH50 source paper of Denisovan findings in SE Asia, reviewing their potential as a Papuan interactive community having the capability to sea travel to Aus over the reduced water channel to Sahul. Late Pleistocene.

    • @russellpearson1909
      @russellpearson1909 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      sounds like a narrative from many vids ive seen or heard before on this page. My own research however comes to similar conclusions. The only recent site i know comes close to 12000 ybp is mojil in vic. In arnhem land there is the madjedeebe cave site that is arguably dated at 80000 ybp.

    • @andrewenoch2561
      @andrewenoch2561 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Know one another then homosapien have been found this side of the Wallace line the the ancestors of Aboriginal peoples already had the admixture before crossing the Wallace line

  • @aussievp
    @aussievp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    They may have interbred for a while, but in the end aborigines would have been hostile towards the first inhabitants ... ethnic cleansing to the point where the denisovans disappeared

    • @Stuart-p4m
      @Stuart-p4m 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also the pygmy tribes.

    • @kaciaway4167
      @kaciaway4167 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yolngu people, (aboriginals) don’t practice ethnic genocide mate… like Papuan people we have more Denisovans dna than most other groups have

    • @infidel202
      @infidel202 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@kaciaway4167 they practiced inter tribal genocide and cannibalism, even today in some areas one tribe will not except another

    • @Lux-x4y
      @Lux-x4y 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Aboriginals are not hostile and aboriginal culture is literally peaceful relationships between other humans

    • @infidel202
      @infidel202 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Lux-x4y hmmm, can you please explain how you arrived at this conclusion

  • @kathybrem880
    @kathybrem880 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Denisovans and homo erectus were NOT the same creatures at all! Denisovans were closely related to Neanderthals. In fact they interbred. This sounds rather nonsensical. This is rather poorly done

    • @KimberlyBehzad
      @KimberlyBehzad 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not true. They definitely intermingled, but they are different species of humans. They evolved separately.

  • @ronreupert9609
    @ronreupert9609 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I looked for confirmation of Homo erectus fossils in Australia from other sources, and could not find anything. Could you please cite sources, papers, and other publications and peer reviewed evidence.

    • @samuellonghurst7723
      @samuellonghurst7723 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is utter AI rubbish

    • @russpearson9802
      @russpearson9802 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Look at robust cranium. Cow swamp, talgia, pintubi, mossgiel, are all robust and very close examples to erectus

  • @lawrencehelm2219
    @lawrencehelm2219 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I watch pretty much everything having to do with anthropology and evolution. This stuff was so "new" to me I decided to check for references. Couldn't find any. I'm not going to watch any further. Seems like someone is having us on.

  • @darylbuttery7048
    @darylbuttery7048 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The “muddle in the middle” can also be applied to the first habitation of Australia. Homo Erectus developed maritime skills to cross the Huxley Line as can be evidenced by cut marks on fossilised bones in present day Indonesia and the Philippines dating back to 700,000 bp. There is no reason why those first hominids didn’t progress to Suhul and now present day Australia. My biggest issue is the evidence of first habitation. Australia would have experienced a far different climate and consequently a far richer and conducive environment to habitation in the early Pleistocene but please show me the evidence. I want proof.

    • @fitbotai
      @fitbotai  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Thank you for your insightful comment! You bring up some very valid points about early human migration and the potential maritime skills of Homo erectus. The evidence for the first habitation of Australia is still an area of active research, and new discoveries may help fill in the gaps. While the climate and environment during the early Pleistocene would have been different, it’s fascinating to think about how hominids could have adapted to those conditions. We appreciate your curiosity and interest in this topic! 😊 Please note that the images shown are for reference and may not reflect the exact historical representation."

  • @bnk091182
    @bnk091182 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very nicely done! AI isn't for everything but makes nice visuals for this application!

  • @VinceBoothe
    @VinceBoothe 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Crappy AI commentary? Yuck

  • @aussievp
    @aussievp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Aborigines were NOT the first here in Australia.

    • @Guerilla4Tres
      @Guerilla4Tres 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you know? Show me your evidence

    • @NicholasEcimovic
      @NicholasEcimovic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Guerilla4Tres this doco you just watched , suggested that . best you contact the team Chris Stringer, Lee Berger, and John Hawks that excavated and researched the site directly and ask the moron question EVIDENCE

    • @SuperCollegeDropout
      @SuperCollegeDropout 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@NicholasEcimovicthis doco isn't based on any real findings... It's a great exciting story but there just isn't any fossils in Australia that support what it's saying.

    • @SuperCollegeDropout
      @SuperCollegeDropout 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's strong evidence that the Aboriginals have been here for over 40,000 years. I doubt any homo sapiens had gotten here before them. But even in if they had, what's your point? They would have merged into one culture and become indistinguishable from each other over time. Unfortunately though, this doco is rubbish. Homo erectus was certainly in Asia but we haven't found any evidence of them in Australia

    • @Guerilla4Tres
      @Guerilla4Tres 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @NicholasEcimovic shouldn't have to champ, there's enough know it all morons in the comment section like yourself that could answer it instead of relying on some made up documentry that's probably not true.

  • @lesliesylvan
    @lesliesylvan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Look forward to more updates

  • @Jagdtyger2A
    @Jagdtyger2A 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well, we know that H. Etectus traveled by boat to islands in the Mediterranean. So why disbelieve their ability to cross 90 miles of ocean to reach Australia? And if they could do it, the Denisovans would certainly be able to do it better. Indeed, there are sites in America that could be evidence of similar ocean travel by one or botj of these groups. Also, during the Ice Ages, when the Antacric ice sheeets reached Tasmania and South America, they could also reach the Southern American continent as well; which could explain Denisovan DNA in that region

  • @lesterdalley5993
    @lesterdalley5993 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is bs

  • @Jan-hh6wr
    @Jan-hh6wr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just garbage😂

  • @Fede_99
    @Fede_99 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is a huge pile of garbage

  • @RicardoGabian
    @RicardoGabian 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have read that they had cave paintings in brasil somewhere in sth America so could have reached Australia for sure either them or us before we slowly joined

    • @SuperCollegeDropout
      @SuperCollegeDropout 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately there isn't any evidence of other hominids making it to the Americas. As far as we know only homo sapiens had travelled that far. There's definately lots of evidence for earlier hominids living in Africa Europe and Asia though. But nothing in Australia has been found as of yet....

    • @fitbotai
      @fitbotai  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Thanks for sharing that interesting point! Yes, there is evidence of ancient cave paintings in South America, and it’s fascinating to consider the early human migration routes. The possibility of humans reaching Australia before or alongside other populations is still being explored by researchers. It’s amazing to think about how ancient humans could have spread across such vast distances. Appreciate your insights! 😊"

  • @scottfreeman7355
    @scottfreeman7355 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So repetitive why hasn't we heard of this before because its all bullshit.

    • @aussievp
      @aussievp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have heard/read many years ago that there were people here before aborigines came here ... they eliminated them

  • @davespears2241
    @davespears2241 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These are most likely to people that did the Bradshaw paintings that the first nation people say we don't know who did these.

  • @Matthew-yw3oi
    @Matthew-yw3oi 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why is evolution still a theory?

    • @SuperCollegeDropout
      @SuperCollegeDropout 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      When they say "theory of evolution" of "theory of lift" the word theory has a different meaning. It's not a common guess or a hunch. It's a conclusion drawn by imperial data and logic. You can almost use the word "law" in its place.

    • @fitbotai
      @fitbotai  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Thanks for your question! Evolution is considered a theory in the scientific sense because it’s a comprehensive explanation of natural phenomena that is supported by a large body of evidence, but it is always open to further refinement as new discoveries are made. In science, theories are not just guesses; they are well-substantiated explanations that can change as new data emerges. Evolution is one of the most widely supported scientific theories with overwhelming evidence from various fields like genetics, fossil records, and comparative anatomy. 😊"

    • @brettbarce8563
      @brettbarce8563 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because it can not be proven as fact, no one really knows, if they did there wouldn't have videos like this one.

  • @lesterdalley5993
    @lesterdalley5993 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which australia landscape? This country has many

  • @flynnnaude700
    @flynnnaude700 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoyed that indeed...nice one.👌

  • @1956vaughan
    @1956vaughan 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You want my subscription? Then get rid of AI commentary - simple as that!!

    • @atheistapostate7019
      @atheistapostate7019 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I run a few channels, one that is doing well, and AI is becoming the way for narrations on channels.

  • @siyaindagulag.
    @siyaindagulag. 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    umm....
    Yer A.I. has a tic , bro.

    • @fitbotai
      @fitbotai  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your comment! Looks like the AI might have a little glitch now and then. We're working on improving things, and we appreciate your understanding! 😊

  • @futiousstyles3315
    @futiousstyles3315 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Theres no evidence for this, not saying its impossible but this is portraying it as a proven fact.. 🙄

    • @fitbotai
      @fitbotai  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Thanks for your feedback! You’re absolutely right-many aspects of human evolution are still based on ongoing research and evolving evidence. We strive to present theories and discoveries with the context they deserve, and we appreciate your thoughtful perspective. 😊 Please note that the images shown are for reference and may not reflect the exact historical representation."

  • @gingeryoddha
    @gingeryoddha 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lies, should just report and get it banned off YT

  • @briantulloch7222
    @briantulloch7222 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disastrous Ai

  • @Yahman1969
    @Yahman1969 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rubbish

  • @rajabrajab8597
    @rajabrajab8597 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    شكرا لهذا العرض وكنت اتمنى ان يكون متحركا
    نعم الانسان القديم عاصر الديناصورات وغيرها من الحيوانات التي وجدت معه في بداية حياته الاولى
    لانه تشكل كانسان مع تشكلها كحيوانت

  • @shanemac7185
    @shanemac7185 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmmm... let's face it.... they're not that far evolved from H. erectus.

    • @hannobaali_makendali
      @hannobaali_makendali 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There was/is NO EVOLUTION (a belief/mytheory) !!!
      There was/is only DEVOLUTION.
      Ask any Polar Bear and a few Grizzlies.

  • @lostarrow861
    @lostarrow861 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Where’s the evidence?

    • @WoodysOpinion101
      @WoodysOpinion101 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In the ground...😂

    • @tonyjones2742
      @tonyjones2742 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The evidence is suppressed. Huge resources are allocated based on "we were here first" narrative

    • @hmelonify
      @hmelonify 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s in the blood and it’s in the bones .. this section of science (archeology) is very heavily guarded by gate-keepers

    • @futiousstyles3315
      @futiousstyles3315 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There isnt any..

    • @AustralianHistoryx
      @AustralianHistoryx 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Genetic - maybe watch the video