Because a digital random generator is very difficult, a pattern is almost always programmed. I spent several hours spinning the wheel to get behind the pattern - and failed. Thanks for the solution! Outstanding channel!
Only because the devs implemented it lazily. It would be trivial to salt the the pseudorandom generator seed with non-deterministic data, like the count of some internal human-driven metric like number of kills/bases/nodes mined/etc. at the time of wheel spin. In general even that's not necessary as pseudo-random generation is incredibly "random". No idea why FP would have the wheel be weighted like shown in the video. It feels like a bad custom implementation.
@@coltonmccormack8978 possibly server load? To do it non-deterministically, you'd have to track all those things and access them every spin, which is a lot of data i'd imagine whereas a cheap algorithm that's "good enough" might seem to work just as well.
Ok, since I was interested, I have spent some time looking into this since I wanted to see if this could lead to an infinite scrap generation. Short answer: Likely, if you have lots of time. But this is not something I would generally recommend. Below the details: One would thing that the server picks a random number the wheel would land, and then it spins in such a way to land on that number. But that is not the case. Instead it samples a random force to apply to the wheel! When googling this, there is a bounded random force applied to that wheel !!!! This explains the 35%/65% pattern. Imagine that force is set in a way that it would make the wheel spin at a minimum of 1 full rotation to a maximum of 2.5 full rotations. With that , the 1st half of the wheel has a higher chance of being hit (1.0-1.5) rotations and (2.0-2.5) rotations. While the first half only half the chance of that (1.5-2.0) rotation. One might think with this information, infinite scrap is easy. But there are some other concerns. You can only have an expected gain for the numbers 5, 10, and 20. If 20 is the bet strategy (5 and 10 in the 35 % hit region), you should't bet more then 1-2 % since otherwise you ruin probability is quite high. If you start with 2000 scrap, that is 20-40 scrap bet. Your expected profit is around 3 scrap then. A wheel takes 1min to spin. So that is 3 scrap per minute, or 180scrap per hour :( With the number 5, this gets better. Doing a 100 scrap bet on 5 will lead you to an expected profit of 15 or so, meaning 900scrap/hour. You can speed this up by being placing higher bets, but that increases the risk that you lose it all. I have programmed a Monte Carlo Simulation in c# (let me know if interested, I can put on GitHub) that implements this (random walk with a drift). I had it play 300 rounds (= 5 hours of sitting on the couch at bandit). Betting strategy as described in the video (5%, 2.5%, 1%) and a starting balance of 1000. Other constraints were: - Cannot bet more than 1000 scrap (game won't let you) - If one has more than 10'000 scrap, stop (I would assume that one would keep the profits at that time and stop playing). The results where that with 23% probability you have less than you started with, 42 % that you land between 1000 and 4000 end balance (subtract 1000 for the profit number), around 34 % that you have more than 4000 scrap. The expected balance was 3500 scrap, or 2500 profit. But that is after 5hours of betting! Or 2.5x your starting balance after 5h if you start with a reasonable amount, e.g. 10'000 profit of scrap, or 2000scrap/h if you start with 4000 scrap. This also explains why FacePunch hasn't patched this. They seem to have setup the wheel in such a way, that gambling is a legit way of making scrap, like fishing, farming, roads, tunnels etc. The slow trend (10-15% profit) results for large numbers with low probability to only allow small bets, so that the exponential growth is put under control. I can see some value if you have 5000 scrap and would like to make a full inventory of scrap. Or you have 1000-2000 scrap, and would like to watch netflix while placing the bets and can accept losing the scrap.
He didnt really use much math- if you truly understood math, you'd know he didnt use anything to support his claim- all the math was showing a hypothetical graph if he maintained getting the same luck and winrate
@@MonsPubis7 thank you....this video is basically a case study on why everyone should take statistics 101... gambling ~100 times and then extrapolating it to infinity is simply flawed methodology. you will have streaks in either direction. for anyone who doesn't believe me, go flip a coin 10, 50, 100 times, for many iterations, and keep track of the results. getting 60:40 heads:tails doesn't mean your coin is broken; it means your sample size is too small.
What do you mean "no one appreciating the work?" Were all here, supporting our guy. Why would you even say something dumb like that and insult everyone in the comments without any evidence? Theres not even one single comment on here that isnt positive. Everybody is saying thanks and good job. Like, literally everybody.
I remember sitting on Andysolam 10x with you at outpost, you were trying to figure the wheel out... I'm glad you finally got it figured out man. Keep up the good work Gabe!
I use the same strategie since the begining and win a lot I noticed that there was a logical sequence for not winning by always betting on the same square, there is a sequence like 1-3-1-5-1-3-5-1-1-10... and my lose sequence is 1-1-1-1-1.... So if you bet 2 scrap on 3, 2 scrap on 5 an 1 scrap on 10, if 3 or 5 or 10 you win scrap if the 1 or 20 comes out you have to double or triple the bet and be carful of the "lose sequence" by not bet all your scrap too early Generaly it's always 1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3 and by tripling the bet you will be rich rapidly Once you win the bet you restart with the start bet (2 scrap on 3, 2 scrap on 5 an 1 scrap on 10)
You can actually calculate the positions where the wheel can end up because u have the source code in which it tells you each spin it gets accelerated by a random factor between 7-10 (float). Thers another youtuber i dont remember his name who made an map where he calculated on what u should bet for every possible position. That gives u an edge of 12% (if I remember correctly). I tested it for 5h in which I ~5timed my initial investment. Given the nature of randomness there is still the possibility to loose 20-50 times in a row. So you have to bet in small ammounts. For me I bet 5scrap for every 100 scrap in total. This is a bit risky because with the edge u have. U need arround 19 bets on 20 to get the 20 on average. 3scrap for each 100 total would probably be better cause it gives u a bit of a backup if you get a loose streak of over 20. But it also slows down your gain. if you use the 5 per 100 strat. I routhly doubled my total every hour. But in the end i lost all to a 30 loss streak. so yeah...risky.
I noticed this too when looking at the server c# code in rust. The wheel works by picking an number of degrees to spin from the current slot. I remember it being off like 4 and a half spins meaning it would spin between 1 and 4 and a half spins. it's that half that makes it uneven in odds that gives it slight advantage (like you said with the 65%) to land on one side of the wheel more than the other..
yeah but they don't have to. they just have to use a non constant seed... tbh I thought this was a nobrainer, but developers seem to fail to understand the concept of random and seeds in most of the games...
@@dimitralex1892 if they use the randomness from the seed, as a key to encrypt the formula to calculate the wheel - this means even if you know the seed, you need too much testing to get the right calculation (like Gabe did here) but you have to do this for EVERY single seed. and since it changed every wipe and every server, its senseless. only if you have a set seed it can help but needs much encryption time and testing. like how long is rust out and we got this video WHEN? btw: they cant use a "non constant seed" because its here like in minecraft, the seed calculates the terrain and monuments.
@@Wrutschgeluck uhm... what exactly prevents them from having one seed for the map and another for the wheel? nothing... you can have these two random generators completely separate and you would never run into an issue like probability calculation (of course you have to change the seed from time to time, e.g. every wipe...). That is my point. You don't have to use any existing seed, you can simply use anyone and it would be fine as long as you use it dynamicly and not staticly... Of course they could use the map seed, never said that wouldn't work, just saying, you don't have to, any seed will do fine...
@@dimitralex1892 im not so into programming but to have a changing seed for many things is maybe something to aviod to. but yes, your idea is working, too and more complex to figure out.
Thank you so much for the way, we all come from the Woodcock channel here who told us everything in our own language. But ... but he also said that all the laurels should be given to you) so I came to you to "like" and write comments)
I've been doing this for an hour now, starting at around 300 scrap. I peaked at 400 or so but after many losses in a row I went down to 240 and now I'm at 350. Basically, I wouldn't recommend this for small amounts unless you are a no-life like me and just want to watch TH-cam videos while sitting at the wheel. update: i tried again starting from 1.1k scrap and after around 2 hours im at 638 scrap. I'm certain im doing it exactly as instructed in the video so i think im just the unluckiest person in the world
This seems fake. He had 100% comfort, yet both his health, hunger, and thirst did not change at all after “2 hours”, and we don’t see any timelapse or proof that he spent the two hours.
I watched a previous Rust video claiming the exact same information. So I sat infront of the gambling wheel for 6 hours and recorded it. The 35% side on Rustopia US Main came up >50% of the time. Either it's now random or some servers are random.
I did the strategy, startet with 978 scrap and bet 5 % 2,5 % 1 % following the video, i lost 78 gambles in a row, got it recorded, followed the video to a tea. Goes to show this will make you scrap statestically, but u can still get unlucky and loose it all. (i did do 5 % 2,5 % 1 % of 978 all the way which meant when i was down to 75 scrap for example, i still put in 49 scrap which ofcourse led to me loosing all my scrap, besides this, there is around a 23 % chance u will end up with less scrap then you startet with in 300 rolls, which that chance will increased much higher the fewer spins u do)
I know this is a year later but hopefully you read this.. the reason you lost it all, is cause you did the strategy wrong. You dont bet 5%, 2.5% or 1% of 978 every game.. you bet 5%, 2.5% or 1% of what your current scrap amount is at the time of placing your bet. So when you were at 75 scrap left lets say, you bet 49, which is 5% of 978. You should of only bet 4 scrap. Which is about 5% of 75.. Sorry you wasted all that time doing it wrong and thinking Gabe is prolly stupid when in fact..
Hey Gabe. How did you find out that chance of getting a number in indicated sector is greater than in the other sector of the wheel? Just by experience? 65% vs 35% that's interesting, because you didn't say anything about it in the video.
@@Gabe-cobalt Like what kinds of testing? Showing a graph and charts doesnt mean anything unless you can use the data to support your claim, you used data to show results of your claim- theres a difference
@@MonsPubis7 I totally get your point, but do the results not speak for themselves? Yes the actual method of figuring out the 65% 35% split wasn't explained, but the results show that he's correct, no?
@@MonsPubis7 Do the research for yourself if you want the knowledge and power of the scrap wheel, Im sure you'll be using this info anyways despite your comment lmao
did this yesterday for about 2 hrs and as expect i made a small profit but today I've been doing it for another 2 hrs with full focus and have been consistently losing. I have been betting correct amounts and only when favorable and am down almost 50% from my starting amount of scrap. is it possible that they have already patched this?
Just used this on a RNG roulette wheel and the results are pretty accurate. The only thing is to change direction around the wheel due to it going clockwise and anticlockwise per spin. Thanks Gabe! Time to make $72k an hour real money 😂
@@Bungchow_ Don't waste your time trying to predict real money roulette. Even patterns that persist after 1000 spins, dwindle to nothing after 10000+ spins.
@@OsrsNooby yes I am aware. I've spent the last week studying the one roulette wheel I play on. One thing I noticed was that evolution gaming wheels are almost identical in terms of trends that the wheels follow. I managed to turn $50 into $750 in under 30 minutes playing using what I learned from this video. I hit 3/4 of the time. I only miss if a rogue spin occurs and the ball hits the rim and does a ridiculous bounce or continuously rolls around the wheel.
Another wheel hack I’ve found is you have the same probability 60%-65% chance of winning if you put your scrap on 3 half it onto 5 half the 5 onto 10 and then shift middle mouse drag the 10 onto the 20 with this method you have 65% chance of hitting versus the one hitting at a 35-40% I can legitimately play almost every hand and usually always win
70k an hour is a bit of a stretch but he’s also not wrong as I’ve been doing this method for a bit and beat my 2 pervious bests for scrap, first was 30k second was 50k and I recently got around 76k so yeah this works lol
You can bet more than 1000 by hover looting to fill all the slots then hover looting till you fill the one you want to bet on, then remove the scrap from your other slots
I tried this, and it worked incredibly, but today I've been doing it for 30 minutes and haven't won once. Does this still work? Edit: this doesn't seem to work anymore
gabe, did you figure out the turret exploit yet? something interesting can be done with remote-controlled turrets. (could be just on modded, thought i haven't gotten to test on vanilla)
Gambling is all about EV (expected value) then using proper brm, so if there is an edge here u can use something like kelly crit, then to run simulations u run monte carlo sims.
i really appreciate this video man it came into my recommended i didnt know who you were before but you’re video is definitely gonna help me a ton in future rust playthroughs. much love❤
Idk man. No guarantee you'll ever win big like you did. After all, you hit big ONCE after TWO HOURS. Those are very, VERY low odds. Your mileage may vary
Just say you didn't understand the video. He is describing a process by which to tip the odds in your favor, similar to counting cards at blackjack in a casino
@@Gabe-cobalt Sounds good. Is there any “macro” or way to automate this, that you trust wont be detected or banned by EAC? I dont trust myself to run anything macro related since ive already been banned twice on macro related stuff in the past :(
@@Gabe-cobalt I make way more scrap on the wheel than you do with your "theories" how about you post a full video of you doing this strategy then show how long it takes to lose it all.
I tried it for 6 hours and i stayed around the same scrap level. Maybe its server dependent. Kinda like the sun and its hemospheres and pointing solar panels
@Gabe I dunno pal all I know is I tried it on rustified us small for 6 hours and gained nothing. I'm not done with it because I been looking for a system for the wheel since I started playing rust
@@ReverseDeadshot Same experience as you on EU Medium and a modded AU server. Didn't lose much scrap so that's something. I feel like you end up betting on 20's a lot because when 20 is in that sector the 5's and 10's arent ever the go to bet. The amount of times I hit the 1's before the 20 was unfathomable.
cause im bad in mathematics i was waiting of someone explain it from matematically way one day... i usually gamble with profit with some weird six sence))) now i understand this mechanic completely. Thank u Mr. Gabe🥰
It's patched.
:(
@Gabe Does this work on console rust?
fuc
lame when I finally get a chance to try it
Sad
Because a digital random generator is very difficult, a pattern is almost always programmed. I spent several hours spinning the wheel to get behind the pattern - and failed. Thanks for the solution! Outstanding channel!
you realize that the generated seeds used in code is at least hundreds of thousands of randomness until it starts repeating
😄Thanks buddy
Only because the devs implemented it lazily. It would be trivial to salt the the pseudorandom generator seed with non-deterministic data, like the count of some internal human-driven metric like number of kills/bases/nodes mined/etc. at the time of wheel spin. In general even that's not necessary as pseudo-random generation is incredibly "random". No idea why FP would have the wheel be weighted like shown in the video. It feels like a bad custom implementation.
it has nothing to do with true random or not.
@@coltonmccormack8978 possibly server load? To do it non-deterministically, you'd have to track all those things and access them every spin, which is a lot of data i'd imagine whereas a cheap algorithm that's "good enough" might seem to work just as well.
The amount of time you must spend just trying to break shit in Rust is unfathomable and we love you for it.
Scrap tea helps, a little
He rips off other people expoids/bugs and discoveries. Also tries to sell it too.
@@JusstyteN i dont see anyone else making videos on this. and it looks like he gave it away in a video for free
@@user-sk4fx2tk1x this is an old known trick that was worked out by others and he just explained their findings without credit
mr mackey always comin' in clutch with the rust tips
I was looking for a comment like this before commemting it my self😂
uumkay
Not me just about to comment this
@@jandetiger8101 same😂
I’m glad there’s other people with brain rot like me
Facepunch get scared with every new Gabe video
Ahahaha
so damn true
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keep it on the down low bro
I hear they have a 100,000 bounty out on him
@@chrisdixon909 🤣 I'll deliver myself then
Bro...I've spent so much time at the wheel trying to break it down, you did it, this is smart, just plain smart, THIS IS HOW ITS DONE
🍻
Gabe running Notepad++ like a real Rust gamer. ☕
Ok, since I was interested, I have spent some time looking into this since I wanted to see if this could lead to an infinite scrap generation.
Short answer: Likely, if you have lots of time. But this is not something I would generally recommend. Below the details:
One would thing that the server picks a random number the wheel would land, and then it spins in such a way to land on that number. But that is not the case. Instead it samples a random force to apply to the wheel! When googling this, there is a bounded random force applied to that wheel !!!!
This explains the 35%/65% pattern. Imagine that force is set in a way that it would make the wheel spin at a minimum of 1 full rotation to a maximum of 2.5 full rotations. With that , the 1st half of the wheel has a higher chance of being hit (1.0-1.5) rotations and (2.0-2.5) rotations. While the first half only half the chance of that (1.5-2.0) rotation.
One might think with this information, infinite scrap is easy. But there are some other concerns. You can only have an expected gain for the numbers 5, 10, and 20. If 20 is the bet strategy (5 and 10 in the 35 % hit region), you should't bet more then 1-2 % since otherwise you ruin probability is quite high. If you start with 2000 scrap, that is 20-40 scrap bet. Your expected profit is around 3 scrap then. A wheel takes 1min to spin. So that is 3 scrap per minute, or 180scrap per hour :(
With the number 5, this gets better. Doing a 100 scrap bet on 5 will lead you to an expected profit of 15 or so, meaning 900scrap/hour.
You can speed this up by being placing higher bets, but that increases the risk that you lose it all.
I have programmed a Monte Carlo Simulation in c# (let me know if interested, I can put on GitHub) that implements this (random walk with a drift). I had it play 300 rounds (= 5 hours of sitting on the couch at bandit). Betting strategy as described in the video (5%, 2.5%, 1%) and a starting balance of 1000.
Other constraints were:
- Cannot bet more than 1000 scrap (game won't let you)
- If one has more than 10'000 scrap, stop (I would assume that one would keep the profits at that time and stop playing).
The results where that with 23% probability you have less than you started with, 42 % that you land between 1000 and 4000 end balance (subtract 1000 for the profit number), around 34 % that you have more than 4000 scrap. The expected balance was 3500 scrap, or 2500 profit. But that is after 5hours of betting! Or 2.5x your starting balance after 5h if you start with a reasonable amount, e.g. 10'000 profit of scrap, or 2000scrap/h if you start with 4000 scrap.
This also explains why FacePunch hasn't patched this. They seem to have setup the wheel in such a way, that gambling is a legit way of making scrap, like fishing, farming, roads, tunnels etc.
The slow trend (10-15% profit) results for large numbers with low probability to only allow small bets, so that the exponential growth is put under control.
I can see some value if you have 5000 scrap and would like to make a full inventory of scrap. Or you have 1000-2000 scrap, and would like to watch netflix while placing the bets and can accept losing the scrap.
Yeah well explained 🔥
I ain’t reading allat we up tho 🔥💯
its usually 2 runs before the actual timed circuit. its known as recce. Recce is short for reconnaissance.
Bro you got to much free time
no one appreciating the work and the math that went into this vid, bro straight up dropping math lessons for free
Thanks my guy ahahaha 👍
@@Gabe-cobalt gabe just used chatgpt to come up with this i bet :D
He didnt really use much math- if you truly understood math, you'd know he didnt use anything to support his claim- all the math was showing a hypothetical graph if he maintained getting the same luck and winrate
@@MonsPubis7 thank you....this video is basically a case study on why everyone should take statistics 101...
gambling ~100 times and then extrapolating it to infinity is simply flawed methodology. you will have streaks in either direction.
for anyone who doesn't believe me, go flip a coin 10, 50, 100 times, for many iterations, and keep track of the results.
getting 60:40 heads:tails doesn't mean your coin is broken; it means your sample size is too small.
What do you mean "no one appreciating the work?"
Were all here, supporting our guy. Why would you even say something dumb like that and insult everyone in the comments without any evidence? Theres not even one single comment on here that isnt positive. Everybody is saying thanks and good job. Like, literally everybody.
This was like watching Mr macky gamble 😂
Lol
mkay
I knew someone would have this same thought lmao
Mkayyyyy
I remember sitting on Andysolam 10x with you at outpost, you were trying to figure the wheel out... I'm glad you finally got it figured out man.
Keep up the good work Gabe!
Ahahahha yeah that was months ago, thank you :)
I use the same strategie since the begining and win a lot
I noticed that there was a logical sequence for not winning by always betting on the same square, there is a sequence like 1-3-1-5-1-3-5-1-1-10... and my lose sequence is 1-1-1-1-1....
So if you bet 2 scrap on 3, 2 scrap on 5 an 1 scrap on 10,
if 3 or 5 or 10 you win scrap
if the 1 or 20 comes out you have to double or triple the bet and be carful of the "lose sequence" by not bet all your scrap too early
Generaly it's always 1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3 and by tripling the bet you will be rich rapidly
Once you win the bet you restart with the start bet (2 scrap on 3, 2 scrap on 5 an 1 scrap on 10)
the sheer amount of hours you put into those videos! amazing content is the result!!! well done again! much love from Switzerland :-)
When you say ok . South park teacher comes to mind instantly..
mkay
This guy who sounds like a southpark character explained math better then every teacher i ever had
Ahahaha thank you mmkay
@@Gabe-cobalt Your English is better than a lot of Americans I know. Out of curiosity, where are you from?
the small little "okay"s speak directly into my soul, i dunno why.
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Ahhahaha thanks
2:30
5% of ur total scrap, but.....
5% of 0 is 0
🤣 Nice one
I saw a video with this exact strategy, and have been using it ever since. It’s called “Breaking the Wheel”
Thank you for this!
This keeps on going until security picks you up 😅
🤣 _banditcamp takes you hostile_
That’s actually a brilliant idea. Too many wins on the wheel and the sentries start shooting
Like getting kicked out of the casino in New Vegas
@@2SeizeTheDay Ahahahahaha...
You sound like Mr. Mackey from South Park the way you explain :D "Mkaaay" :D love it!
The grinding behind the camera is so crazy 😂 2:34
Yes...
You can actually calculate the positions where the wheel can end up because u have the source code in which it tells you each spin it gets accelerated by a random factor between 7-10 (float). Thers another youtuber i dont remember his name who made an map where he calculated on what u should bet for every possible position. That gives u an edge of 12% (if I remember correctly). I tested it for 5h in which I ~5timed my initial investment. Given the nature of randomness there is still the possibility to loose 20-50 times in a row. So you have to bet in small ammounts. For me I bet 5scrap for every 100 scrap in total. This is a bit risky because with the edge u have. U need arround 19 bets on 20 to get the 20 on average. 3scrap for each 100 total would probably be better cause it gives u a bit of a backup if you get a loose streak of over 20. But it also slows down your gain. if you use the 5 per 100 strat. I routhly doubled my total every hour. But in the end i lost all to a 30 loss streak. so yeah...risky.
I learned more mathematical equations in this one video, then I did my entire four years in high school
Went from 1200->2300 and went on an INSANE losing streak down to 1000, and then i slowly started winning again
bro, Gabe, you're the #1 reason the Nuclear Silo monument keeps getting delayed :/
Sounds like the teacher from south park
Yeah mkay
I noticed this too when looking at the server c# code in rust. The wheel works by picking an number of degrees to spin from the current slot. I remember it being off like 4 and a half spins meaning it would spin between 1 and 4 and a half spins. it's that half that makes it uneven in odds that gives it slight advantage (like you said with the 65%) to land on one side of the wheel more than the other..
I loved the Mr.Garrison “mmkay”😂😂
they should just clip the random generator to the seed.
but great video, like always!
good to know there is a ACTUAL trick to gamble and winning :)
Yeah, thanks
yeah but they don't have to. they just have to use a non constant seed... tbh I thought this was a nobrainer, but developers seem to fail to understand the concept of random and seeds in most of the games...
@@dimitralex1892 if they use the randomness from the seed, as a key to encrypt the formula to calculate the wheel - this means even if you know the seed, you need too much testing to get the right calculation (like Gabe did here) but you have to do this for EVERY single seed. and since it changed every wipe and every server, its senseless. only if you have a set seed it can help but needs much encryption time and testing. like how long is rust out and we got this video WHEN?
btw: they cant use a "non constant seed" because its here like in minecraft, the seed calculates the terrain and monuments.
@@Wrutschgeluck uhm... what exactly prevents them from having one seed for the map and another for the wheel? nothing... you can have these two random generators completely separate and you would never run into an issue like probability calculation (of course you have to change the seed from time to time, e.g. every wipe...). That is my point. You don't have to use any existing seed, you can simply use anyone and it would be fine as long as you use it dynamicly and not staticly...
Of course they could use the map seed, never said that wouldn't work, just saying, you don't have to, any seed will do fine...
@@dimitralex1892 im not so into programming but to have a changing seed for many things is maybe something to aviod to. but yes, your idea is working, too and more complex to figure out.
Gabe is an unspoken hero
😄
Thank you so much for the way, we all come from the Woodcock channel here who told us everything in our own language. But ... but he also said that all the laurels should be given to you) so I came to you to "like" and write comments)
)))))
bro went full on business analytic mode on rust rullete
🤣
spoonkid really needs this
Oh yes
this would change spoonkid's life completely
The Khan Academy of Rust, ty Gabe
🤣 Np
0:15 "mkay" my man sounded like Mr. Mackey from south park 💀💀
Thanks for this video from Woodcock subscribers and good luck dude👍
Took me about 6 hours to get from 1k to a full invent of scrap using this method. I was using slightly higher percentage on 20 and 10.
Slightly higher percentage is bad over time
@@Gabe-cobalt can confirm you are correct. Day 2 doing my percentages ended up in a loss over 2 hours. Luck certainly plays more of a role
I've been doing this for an hour now, starting at around 300 scrap. I peaked at 400 or so but after many losses in a row I went down to 240 and now I'm at 350.
Basically, I wouldn't recommend this for small amounts unless you are a no-life like me and just want to watch TH-cam videos while sitting at the wheel.
update: i tried again starting from 1.1k scrap and after around 2 hours im at 638 scrap. I'm certain im doing it exactly as instructed in the video so i think im just the unluckiest person in the world
Unlucky, or just don't watch TH-cam videos as that will distract you from betting 100% without mistakes
Maybe your youtubing is affecting your attention span
only bet on 20/10/5
only bet when there are more 10/5's in the 65% segment
dont bet every spin ( unless favourable )
because it doesn't work. it's really that simple.
@@Gabe-cobalt tried today for 3-4 hours, lost 80% of my scrap. maybe they patched it
I hear this introduction and I keep hearing Southpark "mmmmkay...."
lol
You did it as usual my friend! =) My mind is blowned away! =) Wish You the best!
Thanks my man BangBang
@@Gabe-cobalt hope You have a good one for us for the next time! =) Best regards - BangBangKill =)
Great video as always, really admire your content
Thank you very much
spoonkid needs this and will still drop the bag XD
Look at his most recent vid lol, predicted the future!
Thank you for being smarter than me and releasing the information for everyone.
What who are you
@@Gabe-cobalt I meant thank you for doing all the math and everything and then releasing it for me and everyone to use to get scrap rich!
2:24 flashbang be careful
This seems fake. He had 100% comfort, yet both his health, hunger, and thirst did not change at all after “2 hours”, and we don’t see any timelapse or proof that he spent the two hours.
Oh yeah I answered you on discord
I watched a previous Rust video claiming the exact same information. So I sat infront of the gambling wheel for 6 hours and recorded it. The 35% side on Rustopia US Main came up >50% of the time. Either it's now random or some servers are random.
Nothing is random, it's just complex patterns made to appear random.
@@Argonak1 There are actual real random number generators in some computer programs.
@@Dan-ty7cb They arent actually random
@@dauntless2191 Yes, they are. Real random number generators exist.
Bro is a professional gambler in rust, unlucky💀
Facepunch should give u a job already dude, love your work!
Ahahaha, not sure If I can apply for it at 17 years old
@@Gabe-cobalt they may make an exception
Would've loved to see the description being: "Early aprils fools joke"
Ahahaha I was afraid some could think that
Tried this consistently for more than 6 hours in two splits, while watching documentaries and stuff. It didn't work for me
Same
@@jstsxgtzm9440 Same.
Worked for me got multiple full inventories of scrap on official. Idk if it is patched after force
Cause you are distracted and then you bet inaccurately
@@Gabe-cobalt Could also be. It was getting tedious as hell xD
I did the strategy, startet with 978 scrap and bet 5 % 2,5 % 1 % following the video, i lost 78 gambles in a row, got it recorded, followed the video to a tea. Goes to show this will make you scrap statestically, but u can still get unlucky and loose it all. (i did do 5 % 2,5 % 1 % of 978 all the way which meant when i was down to 75 scrap for example, i still put in 49 scrap which ofcourse led to me loosing all my scrap, besides this, there is around a 23 % chance u will end up with less scrap then you startet with in 300 rolls, which that chance will increased much higher the fewer spins u do)
I know this is a year later but hopefully you read this.. the reason you lost it all, is cause you did the strategy wrong. You dont bet 5%, 2.5% or 1% of 978 every game.. you bet 5%, 2.5% or 1% of what your current scrap amount is at the time of placing your bet. So when you were at 75 scrap left lets say, you bet 49, which is 5% of 978. You should of only bet 4 scrap. Which is about 5% of 75.. Sorry you wasted all that time doing it wrong and thinking Gabe is prolly stupid when in fact..
I could watch this guy for hours just to listen to his mkays
Hey Gabe. How did you find out that chance of getting a number in indicated sector is greater than in the other sector of the wheel? Just by experience? 65% vs 35% that's interesting, because you didn't say anything about it in the video.
I've been looking for a pattern for a long time, I noticed that the wheel went more to the left than to the right, then did lots of testing... A lot
@@Gabe-cobalt Like what kinds of testing? Showing a graph and charts doesnt mean anything unless you can use the data to support your claim, you used data to show results of your claim- theres a difference
@@MonsPubis7 I totally get your point, but do the results not speak for themselves? Yes the actual method of figuring out the 65% 35% split wasn't explained, but the results show that he's correct, no?
@@MonsPubis7 Do the research for yourself if you want the knowledge and power of the scrap wheel, Im sure you'll be using this info anyways despite your comment lmao
there's actually a video that goes into the wheel's code and explains it very nicely, but i can't remember the name
did this yesterday for about 2 hrs and as expect i made a small profit but today I've been doing it for another 2 hrs with full focus and have been consistently losing. I have been betting correct amounts and only when favorable and am down almost 50% from my starting amount of scrap. is it possible that they have already patched this?
Maybe... but don't think so
Student: Where would we even use these math equations and graphs?
Teacher:
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Instructions unclear. I'm now broke and raided
Lol...
Just used this on a RNG roulette wheel and the results are pretty accurate. The only thing is to change direction around the wheel due to it going clockwise and anticlockwise per spin. Thanks Gabe! Time to make $72k an hour real money 😂
Did u win any money
@@mckenzie486 I tested it on a demo version which I do with any strategy before I use real money. Real money test is tomorrow 🙌
@@Bungchow_ Don't waste your time trying to predict real money roulette. Even patterns that persist after 1000 spins, dwindle to nothing after 10000+ spins.
@@Bungchow_ You do know every wheel is programmed differently right? lol
@@OsrsNooby yes I am aware. I've spent the last week studying the one roulette wheel I play on. One thing I noticed was that evolution gaming wheels are almost identical in terms of trends that the wheels follow. I managed to turn $50 into $750 in under 30 minutes playing using what I learned from this video. I hit 3/4 of the time. I only miss if a rogue spin occurs and the ball hits the rim and does a ridiculous bounce or continuously rolls around the wheel.
Ayy ggs 2k scrap down the drain but I'm still a believer let's fucking go
Bro got a degree in gambling
“WoOooHHH!!!!!” Always got me 😂😂😂
Ahahahaa
a new amazing video Gabe! thank you for all the work :))
Wow thank you so much :D
The way you talk is so funny you deserve a sub and like 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks buddy
Another wheel hack I’ve found is you have the same probability 60%-65% chance of winning if you put your scrap on 3 half it onto 5 half the 5 onto 10 and then shift middle mouse drag the 10 onto the 20 with this method you have 65% chance of hitting versus the one hitting at a 35-40% I can legitimately play almost every hand and usually always win
Man I couldn't find you're channel for the longest time mkay lmao😂😂 so happy I found it mkay lol
70k an hour is a bit of a stretch but he’s also not wrong as I’ve been doing this method for a bit and beat my 2 pervious bests for scrap, first was 30k second was 50k and I recently got around 76k so yeah this works lol
It's not a bit of a stretch, it's what you would get, at least in average, if you had +100k scrap, which makes your max winnings to be 70k h
@@Gabe-cobalt ahhhh I see
W Gabe as always
max winnings being 70k and minimum winnings being -70k?
not working don't waste your time
Yeah sure....
You can bet more than 1000 by hover looting to fill all the slots then hover looting till you fill the one you want to bet on, then remove the scrap from your other slots
My scamming business starts now Thanks Gabe!
Lol...
when Trainwrecks sees this 🤑
I tried this, and it worked incredibly, but today I've been doing it for 30 minutes and haven't won once. Does this still work?
Edit: this doesn't seem to work anymore
Don't even play rust but sitting here analysing rust gambling graphs 🧐
Why do I feel like you’ve English by watching southpark lol. Great video, much appreciated
Thank you
Not works
"not works" 🤣
@@Gabe-cobalt ""not works" 🤣" 🤣
Привет от Бездарной говорящей головы
Da
@@Gabe-cobalt hahahaha
what? I WAS DOING META???? awesome, Gabe ;))))
I can't stop hearing the teacher from south park. Mkay
Horse farms went silent after this one xD
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gabe, did you figure out the turret exploit yet? something interesting can be done with remote-controlled turrets. (could be just on modded, thought i haven't gotten to test on vanilla)
Hm don't know about that
what is it
Gambling is all about EV (expected value) then using proper brm, so if there is an edge here u can use something like kelly crit, then to run simulations u run monte carlo sims.
Yes finally someone who understands this
i really appreciate this video man it came into my recommended i didnt know who you were before but you’re video is definitely gonna help me a ton in future rust playthroughs. much love❤
Thank you very much brother, 👍
You're not tricking me... This is obviously just a statistics lecture, professors be getting really sneaky these days. lol
🤣 Very good one
@@Gabe-cobalt good video tho mate, explained really well keep up the good work
Poor FP developers.. their bug ticket boards grow exponentially with every Gabe video
Hahahahaha
THIS WAS A SICK SCRAP LOSS GUIDE! IF YOU DONT HAVE ALOT OF SCRAP TO START WITH IT MOST LIKELY WONT WORK FOR YOU I HAD LIKE 100
I remember learning about this from the fucking otv server two years ago lmao good to see it's still not patched!
2 years ago wow!
After watching this video I went to test it. I made profit!
Great to hear from you Ekostik :D
Great video can't wait to test this ;)
Thanks adder 🔥
Spoonkid needs to see this
Mr Garrison laying down the knowledge!!
Idk man. No guarantee you'll ever win big like you did. After all, you hit big ONCE after TWO HOURS. Those are very, VERY low odds. Your mileage may vary
That's wrong. Trust the process please
@@Gabe-cobalt Alright i will trust it. Please report back your winnings people!
Just say you didn't understand the video. He is describing a process by which to tip the odds in your favor, similar to counting cards at blackjack in a casino
@@JIREX If they always do the right bet amount, which is 5%, 2.5% and 1%, I can guarantee you nobody will ever lose any scrap over time
@@Gabe-cobalt Sounds good. Is there any “macro” or way to automate this, that you trust wont be detected or banned by EAC? I dont trust myself to run anything macro related since ive already been banned twice on macro related stuff in the past :(
I wonder if this works on console, and Gabe, I love you.
I does not spent an hour doing what he said and lost pretty much all of it 💀
Is he intentionally trying to impersonate Mr. Mackey from South Park or is this him normally? XD I love it.
What, mmkay
@@Gabe-cobalt XD
I think you forgot to add the asmr hashtag, your voice is actually really relaxing lol
This the type of guy that just multiplies the amount instead of actually doing it.
Stay fun being poor
@@Gabe-cobalt I make way more scrap on the wheel than you do with your "theories" how about you post a full video of you doing this strategy then show how long it takes to lose it all.
Great to see you back. I'll be trying this out right away.
OldFella! 😄
I tried it for 6 hours and i stayed around the same scrap level. Maybe its server dependent. Kinda like the sun and its hemospheres and pointing solar panels
@@ReverseDeadshot Well they can configure it, but why would they lol...
@Gabe I dunno pal all I know is I tried it on rustified us small for 6 hours and gained nothing. I'm not done with it because I been looking for a system for the wheel since I started playing rust
@@ReverseDeadshot Same experience as you on EU Medium and a modded AU server. Didn't lose much scrap so that's something. I feel like you end up betting on 20's a lot because when 20 is in that sector the 5's and 10's arent ever the go to bet. The amount of times I hit the 1's before the 20 was unfathomable.
I havent played rust in months but im about to get on right now
Feels like i'm watching a video about some economics irl, but it's Rust gambling XD
Lol
Is it on console too?
This guy is already fucking hilarious, I’m subbing rn 😂
Usually never comment but the amount of work this must have taken…….. earned a like and subscribe from me!
Wow thank you brother
cause im bad in mathematics i was waiting of someone explain it from matematically way one day... i usually gamble with profit with some weird six sence))) now i understand this mechanic completely. Thank u Mr. Gabe🥰
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