As an electrician I find you explain everything clearly and point out the major things you need to look out for. While everything under 110ac and 50vdc can be done by yourself its worthwhile noticing an auto electrician is required over that voltage.
@@PossumWaffen current is measured in amperes. It doesn't matter the energy source so don't try and explain this basic error away. The amount of energy may very well be explained in Ampere hours, but that's a different thing.
@@ianwilliams8448 Well the industry I work in maybe the common terminology is different. When factoring in how long servers/routers etc.. will run on battery backup, the term "amp hours" is used. "Ampere hours -- sometimes abbreviated as Ah or amp hours -- is the amount of energy charge in a battery that enables 1 ampere of current to flow for one hour. Another way of saying it is that 1 Ah is the rating indicating how much amperage a battery can provide for one hour"
Ordered the product on Saturday received the Sunday morning before 8:00 am. Easy to set up, easy to run, noise level was very manageable and not an hindrance or annoying to be around. Very good generator, I like to remote start plus it has a pull chord. Dual fuel was a must and easy to hook up and switch.
Bought a 60l king's fridge 3 yrs ago and I must admit it's last longer than I thought it would. It's never missed a beat. ( Not affiliated with these guys)😊
Their is one catch with all this you have to put it together yourself I've talked to quite a few auto electricians and they either don't get back to me or are not interested so good luck to anyone out there if you can get the help.
That's a Super Clean Setup, I Really like how Compact Your System is ! I Would Like To Own That System. Ihave to Say it Again, SUPER CLEAN and COMPACT!
Thank god this guy came along and made a proper informative video, there are too many “ Half Smarts “ morons on TH-cam thinkin they are intelligent canopy fit out guys. This video is awesome and really helped out 👍
Hi, thanks again for a very informative video. I was wondering if you have a PDF with all the info you covered on the video so I can follow along when I wire my ute up? I am glad you touched on the wiring of the portable solar as this is something I been wondering about. Wasn't sure if you needed to unplug the permanent panel for the portable one to take effect? Also, the 240v charger, did you just wire that directly to the dual battery?
Hi guys love the videos I’m just putting together my system to do the big lap I have one of your 120 ah lithium batteries control box 40 Amp dc dc charger I’m wondering if I can run parallel with a 200 ah lithium battery Kind regards Sam
Hi there, While we unfortunately don't have a full scope setup video each of the items do have installation videos with most being in this video's description field. Regards, Andrew
If using the 12V CONTROL BOX with a dual battery setup, are you still needing to add fuses to both batteries or does this systems fuses cover all of that? Will I still need one fuse at main vehicle battery?
I'm paying close attention to this serious because I want the best system I can get. Right now I'm a weekend warrior but come retirement I want a rig I can rely on for multi day off grid coming. I WAS going to purchase a one ton truck for this purpose but plans changed to a Bronco with a payload of about 1,000 pounds so I'm very conscious of weight and how I'm going to manage that. Batteries are heavy but necessary so I'm struggling with this. I know I want a good solar setup. I'm thinking I'm going to have a great electrical setup with no room for accessories that I installed the dual battery system for such as winch and air compressor. I'm kidding, but this is how my brain is trying to work through all this
If you want to save on weight, get a lithium battery - specifically lithium iron phosphate or LiFePO4. They’re safe, stable and rugged and offer plenty more output for the same size battery compared to lead acid! Cheers, Cahn
@4wdsupacentreAu Thank you for the quick reply. I just watched your video on Lithium batteries as well. Here in the US, it is not uncommon in the summer to hit triple digit temps (F) and single digit (F) in the winter. I think lithium is the answer but I definitely have more thinking to do after watching your series. Thank you for all the info and your time creating this series of videos
@@Crumb_Trailsthe setup they've described is very similar to what you would find in an off grid cabin / home just on a smaller scale. (eg 300 watts of solar instead of 12,000watts) one battery instead of 8-12. The setup is rock solid, only thing I'd add (I might have missed it) would be some battery monitoring equipment. It'll give you an idea of the batteries current state of charge, the amount of power your load is drawing or chargers are providing and an estimate of how long you can continue to run your current load for before the battery is flat.
Do you have a video on how to connect the Dcdc to the control box but using the battery box? I have seen the video where you connect the DCDC and all, but that one did not factor in the battery box.
Wanting to know what options I have regarding setting up a 12v system for camping, but maintain the canopy free tub. I haven't come across any examples, as everyone sets it up at the back of their canopy.
I have no money a 250 w pannel I live in a sunny place no mains i run 12 charges touch light and a alpicool No engine input just ordered an mppt eegulator Advice?
Hi there, The biggest part is ensuring that you have enough power storage to cover a day or two without sun, the worst thing is being caught out by poor weather and being without power. Regards, Andrew
When you say Solar Priority, does that mean that even if I have low sun, it'll still favor the solar? I'm in Canada and the sun isn't always the best for solar charging... I have a small Jackery battery right now, but upgrading to a 100Ah lithium. When I charge it with solar, I get about 50W of charging input at max, or about 7-25W on the lower end.. When I charge my battery from my DC plug in my car, I get 40-45w continuous. So I'm just worried that solar priority will not charge my battery fast enough
Hey there I was tempted to get the 25amp hr dc/dc charger but I have a 140 amp hr battery I seen somewhere u need atheist 40 amp to fully charge my battery do u know I'f that's correct or will the 25 amp kings one work fine
Hi am I able to get the full list of the off the grid system with solar(permanent)so I can install in my toyota commuter but I will run 2x batteries. TIA
Hi Michael, happy to but the list will depend on your setup and the size of appliances that you are planning to run. How about you send us an email with what you are looking at achieving on social@4wdsupacentre.com.au and we can go over options with you? Cheers Saleha
Can I plug a c tech charger into my second battery that’s in a battery box and ran with a duel battery isolator than plug my portable solar blanket into the plugs on the battery box in my head it is like the main battery is charging the second battery as I drive and when I am stoped the solar and the charger is charging it not sure if I can do it like that tho
Ok, so I have a 2007 Rodeo with a constant voltage alternator. I want to do a second battery setup in the back via a battery isolator and anderson plug setup with the option to be charged by solar panels. Do I need a DC-DC charger for this or do I only need a MPPT controller for the solar side of things?
Hey Dave, Definitely don’t NEED a DCDC charger. But in some cases by the time you add up an isolator and MPPT charger a DCDC isn’t too much more... That being said what you’re saying is right - an Isolator and MPPT should be fine for your setup Cheers, Cahn
I have used deep cycle...and they were not even up to the task...I switched to 3 100 ah lithiums ..game changer ...I keep them charged by 4 100watt solar roof Mount solar panels..no problems any more...deep cycle batteries are a waste of money !!!!
Why why why do all Aussie providers top out at 100Ah-150Ah batteries??? What is your aversion to bigger batteries, LifePO4 batteries or just more sensible setups than these ‘ute’ setups?
Hey mate! Speaking personally, I’ve done plenty of big trips and never needed more than about 100AH. I suppose it has to do with the ‘touring’ or ‘overlanding‘ style of camping we do, where we drive long distances which means the battery is always charged up. For example my brother and I did about a 6500km trip over a 2 week period - we were driving long distance most days which ensured the alternator was charging the battery more than enough. The few days we actually spent at camp in the outback there was more than enough sun to charge batteries to 100% constantly. Even on shorter trips solar is usually enough to keep everything fully charged. Extra battery capacity is always useful though and some people are now getting into LiFePO4 batteries - if they can justify the extra costs. Cheers, Cahn.
Yes, Lithium is the way to go and the price is about the same in comparison. My current setup is 160Ah AGM, 80Ah usable max, weighs 67kg and will only last 10yrs at best. I'm getting a 200Ah Lithium which can be drained to almost zero, lasts 20yrs and only weighs 26kg. The price works out the same if you do the maths.
Not sure you’re “off the grid” if you’re dragging your house and your own grid and all the hassle around with you everywhere. Lots of fun toys but not simple.
@@ThatWasPrettyFunny I get that, but it’s still a ton of shit. I got that dometic battery a solar panel and a connection to the truck battery done. But I use a lot less stuff when I’m out camping as well.
Not really sure I'd wanna take advice from a dude who put a control box with in the center of the car where he can't even reach half the switches, why wouldn't you have just put the inverter there and the control box where the inverter is 😂
Hey mate I’m confused, I want to install a second battery into the battery box, a solar blanket, an inverter, a 240V charger for the battery once home...I will use a 50 plus lt fridge mainly and a few light that’s it. if I want a dc/dc charger, do I need to install a battery isolator anyway or the dc/dc charger will do all. I want the second battery to be charged mainly from the starter battery at start as I will install my solar in future and don’t use often. Please give me an advice pls Thank you so much
Hi mate! Yep the DCDC charger works as an isolator. Depending if you hook up the blue wire (usually for vehicles with smart alternators) or not, will affect the isolator voltage cut off point - the exact specs are available on the website. Cheers, Cahn
@@4wdsupacentreAu Can thank for taking care of replying to me/us is very nice. I own an FJ45 Arkana..definetly not a smart alternator..ok I'll move for a DCDC. THANKS
I wasted my time looking at the thousands of other u tube 12 volt videos, this is the best explanation Ive seen.
Thank you, 👍cheers Johno
As an electrician I find you explain everything clearly and point out the major things you need to look out for. While everything under 110ac and 50vdc can be done by yourself its worthwhile noticing an auto electrician is required over that voltage.
As an electrician, he lost me at 2 minutes 35 after he said current draw was measured in Amp-hours. It's not, it's measured in Amps.
As a non electrician, everything was clear as mud...
@@ianwilliams8448 With batteries its measured in amp hours, as in the current draw (amps) per hour.
@@PossumWaffen current is measured in amperes. It doesn't matter the energy source so don't try and explain this basic error away. The amount of energy may very well be explained in Ampere hours, but that's a different thing.
@@ianwilliams8448 Well the industry I work in maybe the common terminology is different. When factoring in how long servers/routers etc.. will run on battery backup, the term "amp hours" is used. "Ampere hours -- sometimes abbreviated as Ah or amp hours -- is the amount of energy charge in a battery that enables 1 ampere of current to flow for one hour. Another way of saying it is that 1 Ah is the rating indicating how much amperage a battery can provide for one hour"
Ordered the product on Saturday received the Sunday morning before 8:00 am. Easy to set up, easy to run, noise level was very manageable and not an hindrance or annoying to be around. Very good generator, I like to remote start plus it has a pull chord. Dual fuel was a must and easy to hook up and switch.
Bought a 60l king's fridge 3 yrs ago and I must admit it's last longer than I thought it would. It's never missed a beat. ( Not affiliated with these guys)😊
Well done team, such a thorough yet easy to understand video.
Great series of videos these 12v setups you guys have run. Well done.
Their is one catch with all this you have to put it together yourself I've talked to quite a few auto electricians and they either don't get back to me or are not interested so good luck to anyone out there if you can get the help.
That's a Super Clean Setup, I Really like how Compact Your System is ! I Would Like To Own That System. Ihave to Say it Again, SUPER CLEAN and COMPACT!
Thanks!
@@4wdsupacentreAu
Whereabouts are you based mate? I'd love to have a good yarn & get my set up sorted properly, because I have no clue 🤔
Looks good but I’m saving for a lithium battery
Hey Cahn.....Awesome vids mate....I am setting up a dual battery system atm in my Prado 150 series. Your vids are invaluable mate....cheers
Once again, great overview. Thank you
Thank god this guy came along and made a proper informative video, there are too many
“ Half Smarts “ morons on TH-cam thinkin they are intelligent canopy fit out guys.
This video is awesome and really helped out 👍
Great, informative video, thx. Just kill the background music in future vids, it’s very distracting when trying to pay attention and learn. Cheers!
Great set up I like it and am going to do the same King set up in my 4X4 as this thank you Cahn
geez that bloody background music!
Such a legendary explanation!! 🤙
Really great videos & simple info to understand.
Pretty bloody informative mate, thanks heaps
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi, thanks again for a very informative video. I was wondering if you have a PDF with all the info you covered on the video so I can follow along when I wire my ute up? I am glad you touched on the wiring of the portable solar as this is something I been wondering about. Wasn't sure if you needed to unplug the permanent panel for the portable one to take effect? Also, the 240v charger, did you just wire that directly to the dual battery?
Hi there, you can find all the PDF manuals for the battery and portable solar in the additional section on the website. Cheers, Jay
Great review Mate👍🍺
Hi guys love the videos I’m just putting together my system to do the big lap
I have one of your 120 ah lithium batteries control box 40 Amp dc dc charger
I’m wondering if I can run parallel with a 200 ah lithium battery
Kind regards Sam
Great setup. Does Kings sell the setup as you presented it and all it needs is to be installed. Thanks.
Do you have a video showing how to connect all this together?
Hi there,
While we unfortunately don't have a full scope setup video each of the items do have installation videos with most being in this video's description field.
Regards, Andrew
Have you done a video like this but using lifepo4?
Thanks so much for this you guys! 🙏🤙
Bloody brilliant, even I can easily understand this ;)
If using the 12V CONTROL BOX with a dual battery setup, are you still needing to add fuses to both batteries or does this systems fuses cover all of that? Will I still need one fuse at main vehicle battery?
What is the rough cost for this 12volt set up like this
Do you need an inverter generator to charge liphoion batteries
I'm paying close attention to this serious because I want the best system I can get. Right now I'm a weekend warrior but come retirement I want a rig I can rely on for multi day off grid coming. I WAS going to purchase a one ton truck for this purpose but plans changed to a Bronco with a payload of about 1,000 pounds so I'm very conscious of weight and how I'm going to manage that. Batteries are heavy but necessary so I'm struggling with this. I know I want a good solar setup. I'm thinking I'm going to have a great electrical setup with no room for accessories that I installed the dual battery system for such as winch and air compressor. I'm kidding, but this is how my brain is trying to work through all this
If you want to save on weight, get a lithium battery - specifically lithium iron phosphate or LiFePO4.
They’re safe, stable and rugged and offer plenty more output for the same size battery compared to lead acid!
Cheers,
Cahn
@4wdsupacentreAu Thank you for the quick reply. I just watched your video on Lithium batteries as well. Here in the US, it is not uncommon in the summer to hit triple digit temps (F) and single digit (F) in the winter. I think lithium is the answer but I definitely have more thinking to do after watching your series. Thank you for all the info and your time creating this series of videos
@@Crumb_Trailsthe setup they've described is very similar to what you would find in an off grid cabin / home just on a smaller scale. (eg 300 watts of solar instead of 12,000watts) one battery instead of 8-12.
The setup is rock solid, only thing I'd add (I might have missed it) would be some battery monitoring equipment. It'll give you an idea of the batteries current state of charge, the amount of power your load is drawing or chargers are providing and an estimate of how long you can continue to run your current load for before the battery is flat.
Do you have a video on how to connect the Dcdc to the control box but using the battery box? I have seen the video where you connect the DCDC and all, but that one did not factor in the battery box.
There's confusion between Amps and Amp Hours.
Very interesting thank you
Wanting to know what options I have regarding setting up a 12v system for camping, but maintain the canopy free tub. I haven't come across any examples, as everyone sets it up at the back of their canopy.
Behind your seats
I am building a wall like this behind my rear seats
Seek adventure does a video where he mounts batteries under the tray
Great info. Thanks. 👍
Please ship internationally!!!
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO
Can a portable generator power a whole house?
will a regular alternator be able to fully charge a deep cycle fully and properly
no, need deep cycle specific dc dc charger. Also most new cars have smart alternators
I have no money a 250 w pannel
I live in a sunny place no mains i run 12 charges touch light and a alpicool
No engine input just ordered an mppt eegulator
Advice?
Hi there,
The biggest part is ensuring that you have enough power storage to cover a day or two without sun, the worst thing is being caught out by poor weather and being without power.
Regards, Andrew
@@4wdsupacentreAu 8 months a year that's not a problem . I just ordered an MPTT controller and maybe get 2 batteries come the winter?
How much would this cost to set up?
Hi Paul, Please give us a call on 1800 88 39 64 for further information on pricing. Cheers -Virginia
Thankyou
When you say Solar Priority, does that mean that even if I have low sun, it'll still favor the solar? I'm in Canada and the sun isn't always the best for solar charging... I have a small Jackery battery right now, but upgrading to a 100Ah lithium. When I charge it with solar, I get about 50W of charging input at max, or about 7-25W on the lower end.. When I charge my battery from my DC plug in my car, I get 40-45w continuous.
So I'm just worried that solar priority will not charge my battery fast enough
How big is your solar panel?
@@perpelle one 100w solar panel
Hey there I was tempted to get the 25amp hr dc/dc charger but I have a 140 amp hr battery I seen somewhere u need atheist 40 amp to fully charge my battery do u know I'f that's correct or will the 25 amp kings one work fine
I think that depends on how many solar panels you are running.
Could you please send me cabling map of all those items you mentioned in video
Hi there,
Feel free to send us an email on social@4wdsupacentre.com.au with a screenshot of this comment so we can assist further!
Cheers, Courtney
Hi am I able to get the full list of the off the grid system with solar(permanent)so I can install in my toyota commuter but I will run 2x batteries. TIA
Hi Michael, happy to but the list will depend on your setup and the size of appliances that you are planning to run. How about you send us an email with what you are looking at achieving on social@4wdsupacentre.com.au and we can go over options with you?
Cheers
Saleha
Can I plug a c tech charger into my second battery that’s in a battery box and ran with a duel battery isolator than plug my portable solar blanket into the plugs on the battery box in my head it is like the main battery is charging the second battery as I drive and when I am stoped the solar and the charger is charging it not sure if I can do it like that tho
Hi Shannon,
Yes it sounds like a plan but just to be sure, did you want to send us an email with your setup so we can advise promptly?
Cheers
Saleha
Do you sell to usa? And if so how can we get the plans for your systems and items needed to order?
Hey, at the moment we do not ship internationally. Thanks, Madi
How do I get this in America?
Hey mate, sorry we do not ship internationally.
Ok, so I have a 2007 Rodeo with a constant voltage alternator. I want to do a second battery setup in the back via a battery isolator and anderson plug setup with the option to be charged by solar panels. Do I need a DC-DC charger for this or do I only need a MPPT controller for the solar side of things?
Hey Dave,
Definitely don’t NEED a DCDC charger. But in some cases by the time you add up an isolator and MPPT charger a DCDC isn’t too much more...
That being said what you’re saying is right - an Isolator and MPPT should be fine for your setup
Cheers,
Cahn
@@4wdsupacentreAu
Thank you.
haha yeah of course
Omg my brain sucks
I have used deep cycle...and they were not even up to the task...I switched to 3 100 ah lithiums ..game changer ...I keep them charged by 4 100watt solar roof Mount solar panels..no problems any more...deep cycle batteries are a waste of money !!!!
Why why why do all Aussie providers top out at 100Ah-150Ah batteries??? What is your aversion to bigger batteries, LifePO4 batteries or just more sensible setups than these ‘ute’ setups?
Hey mate! Speaking personally, I’ve done plenty of big trips and never needed more than about 100AH. I suppose it has to do with the ‘touring’ or ‘overlanding‘ style of camping we do, where we drive long distances which means the battery is always charged up. For example my brother and I did about a 6500km trip over a 2 week period - we were driving long distance most days which ensured the alternator was charging the battery more than enough. The few days we actually spent at camp in the outback there was more than enough sun to charge batteries to 100% constantly. Even on shorter trips solar is usually enough to keep everything fully charged. Extra battery capacity is always useful though and some people are now getting into LiFePO4 batteries - if they can justify the extra costs. Cheers, Cahn.
Yes, Lithium is the way to go and the price is about the same in comparison. My current setup is 160Ah AGM, 80Ah usable max, weighs 67kg and will only last 10yrs at best. I'm getting a 200Ah Lithium which can be drained to almost zero, lasts 20yrs and only weighs 26kg. The price works out the same if you do the maths.
@@ecohippie3544 don't count your chickens before they hatch hippy
@@ecohippie3544
That is really heavy. A decent Century 150AH deep cycle battery is about 40kg.
I like camping ,i have solar . But this simply overkill, what next are you going to put a hot spa on your trucks roof !
I tried, it’s very difficult to keep the water in 🤪
@@Corey-pd3mi ah good one ! . Enjoy your adventures.
cool I could charge my car battery!
Unfortunately quality equipment like kingsis not available in South Africa. Only Chinese sweatshop crap
As a newbie, I was overwhelmed, and the info comes too fast to absorb… so the video probably isn’t for newbs.
Just keep watching vids, it gets better
First thing you need is a deep cycle battery 🤦♂️😂
🤣🤣🤣
Not sure you’re “off the grid” if you’re dragging your house and your own grid and all the hassle around with you everywhere. Lots of fun toys but not simple.
@@ThatWasPrettyFunny
I get that, but it’s still a ton of shit. I got that dometic battery a solar panel and a connection to the truck battery done. But I use a lot less stuff when I’m out camping as well.
What does camp off grid even mean? Is there such a thing as camping on the grid? Is this just a new Clickbait term? Camping off the grid pffffft
Uhhhh it means camping at powered campsites where you are quite literally connected to power and on grid
Not really sure I'd wanna take advice from a dude who put a control box with in the center of the car where he can't even reach half the switches, why wouldn't you have just put the inverter there and the control box where the inverter is 😂
Hey mate I’m confused, I want to install a second battery into the battery box, a solar blanket, an inverter, a 240V charger for the battery once home...I will use a 50 plus lt fridge mainly and a few light that’s it. if I want a dc/dc charger, do I need to install a battery isolator anyway or the dc/dc charger will do all. I want the second battery to be charged mainly from the starter battery at start as I will install my solar in future and don’t use often.
Please give me an advice pls
Thank you so much
Hi mate! Yep the DCDC charger works as an isolator.
Depending if you hook up the blue wire (usually for vehicles with smart alternators) or not, will affect the isolator voltage cut off point - the exact specs are available on the website.
Cheers,
Cahn
@@4wdsupacentreAu Can thank for taking care of replying to me/us is very nice. I own an FJ45 Arkana..definetly not a smart alternator..ok I'll move for a DCDC. THANKS