Oak Ceiling Beam, The Big Build episode 39 (Ed is in Charge!!!)
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- We are matching an existing Oak beam at the Big Build, I have given Ed the responsibility of machining and cleaning up all the edges to make it look something nice, He has to start by forming two rebates to allow the plasterboard to fit beyond the beam sides to allow for movement and shrinkage in the future as the beam dries and ages
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Love the way you say "we don't want to ruin the plastic window" @ 13.25 - You actually thought about that - Right? One thing I keep in my tool bag when working in tight quarters with fasteners is a mirror - an old welder and friend taught me that - he used to have to weld around corners in tight spaces when building ships.
Oak beams and tea go together so well, don't you think? Proper job.
As a decorator, I'd say dispense with the caulk, and leave a 'shadow gap' - its always neater, easier to decorate and requires no remedial digging out and re-caulking if movement occurs.
Even the timber on your saw fence had a lovely little chamfer cut on the front!
Another lovely job done, and a great video, well done!
Well done Ed. Well spoken and very confident in your presentation. Having a good mentor is the first step to becoming another professional builder.
It’s really kind and respectful of Robin to work from behind the camera to allow Ed to demonstrate his thinking and begin to come into his own.
Well done Robin.
Well he is cleverer than me!!
@@ukconstruction Better looking too, mate !
You can really see how Ed has benefitted from Robin’s experience and teaching. He has progressed so well and is thinking intelligently for himself………
Perfect Rob and Ed ❤ and a cuppa tea after life don't get much better when the job goes well and looks amazing as though it's been there year's and years
Nice idea with the temporary frame 👍
Looks great Robin & Ed! What a team. I love how excited Robin was when the beam was up…”go get your plasterboard Ed”
Robin Your the sort of Gaffa Any one would Love Working For your so easy going and laid Back
The enthusiasm and pride these guys have in their work.....marvellous
Spot on chaps! Nice to see Ed in front of the camera, great idea rebating the beam to allow for movement and avoid cracking .
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Ed did a nice opening presentation!
Very nice, digging that support structure, make your life easier and control the process. Also props on the prep, get everything lined up, pre-drilled, and set to go, that’s the ticket. The rebates are a touch of genius. I personally would have considered putting the beam next to, and not over, the window and door openings - a bit to the side, asymmetrical but in keeping with a traditional structural beam that would generally rest on a solid wall, and not above any opening. I know it is very much a detail, a matter of taste and preference and how far you want to go in emulating original structure. I just enjoy thinking about these jobs in old builds, and how we can add things in style without clashing or missing the point. That beam is great feature.
Ed is doing a great job on and off camera 👍
What an intelligent and clear explanation by Ed 👍👍
Yes he's a smart and hardworking guy a carpentry star of the future
Robin and the Jolly Giant. I mean that as a complement. Robin can certainly carry his end. A great team. Shepherd the beam in thru the window. I love all the English terminology. And the accents!!! A rebate here is what u get when u paid to much. Great vids, great guys!!
Thanks Bill, hope your well
Great work Ed, great presenting skills too! Doin awesome
Bit of oxalic acid on stained oak, saves so much sanding. Really liking all the attention to detail.
That is another very useful tip with the connection of the plasterboard and the beam. Thanks a million Robin!
Glad it was helpful!
@@ukconstruction It really was! Not to mention the beam looks stunning.
Great to see the genuine excitement and adrenaline at play here! This is a great video, informative, good fun and also good to watch you both work through challenges in these longer vids. Big 5 stars from me (but I’m a massive fanboy anyway 😂)
I think also worth mentioning that RC shows his class by letting Ed run this one. What a brilliant mentor you have here Ed mate 👍🏻
Thanks Chris and also for your kind encouraging words mate its why we do TH-cam!!
How on earth did you manage to make a 27 minute video go so quickly? Absolutely brilliant.
I do quite a few large beams because I build high stumped houses. I have my own Genie lift. Wish I had had one years ago. I have put too many large timbers and steels up with muscle power. Now the only effort is crank the wind up arms. Up to 560Kg to 3.6M high with little effort. Bliss !
Great video as always Rob, I enjoyed it👍
Masking tape plaster always works Ed YOUR DOING A FANTASTIC JOB
Just watch the screws don't protrude through the additional timber fence .Enjoying every moment of the journey .
You can also get a bigger fence from hikoki, it has 2 arms the go into the sled too so less chance of twist, I like the idea of closing up that gap though
What can I say that I haven't said b4. So many things to think about and you have your mind engaged in it all. Thank you Robin for taking all the steps to make the channel and sharing the expertise
Loved the first shot of Ed cutting the beam with a plaster on his finger......
I'm new to all this, and the only calluses I have on my hands, are on my fingers tips from playing guitar. But I am trying to prepare myself for some house alterations I am planning, and hoping to do. I am learning so much every time I watch this channel, which is helping add to my confidence by understanding, through clear instruction, on what is needed to get a job done. I also understand from something Robin mentioned in a earlier episode, to understand these guys have decades of experience and not try something that could be dangerous such as constructing a roof; which happens to be exactly what I am need to do. thanks so much guys.
Bloody hell Robin! I winced when you went up on the scaffold board to fix the centre point. Not suffering from chippies knees then.
Me too 😁 you should be letting out a little grunt or humph at your age Robin 😁
Ed's new name should be Chockie 🤣nice job guys, well thought out and safely done
Maybe knock out the h!!!
Excellent work and cooperation. Looks great👍
Hi Robin In the past I have put a stop bead up to the oak. So the plasterer has something to finish to. Another great video. Keep up the good work
As a decorator, I'd say dispense with the caulk, and leave a 5mm shadow gap - its always neater, and requires no remedial digging out and re-caulking if movement occurs.
Great details and tips as always cheers for uploading!!
Love the reg on your van Robin haha. Beam looks super boys.
Good job, you certainly talked that beam into submission……….!
Nice work. Looks great 👍🏻
Nice video Robin. Keep them coming.
😄 😄 🤣 😂 😆 what exactly was Robin lifting ... Two lads giants in comparison to wee Robin...
Great video guys loving beam.
Robin was 'lifting' the other end of the beam that was already resting on the bearer !!
How much sawdust does Ed find in the bottom of his turned up jeans at the end of each day 🤣
I’ve got to come home with something to show the misses! 😂
Hi the old guy who taught me make two three set tresals foe lifting tilber or steel in great job
Great video Guys, well done !!
It’s uncanny how you guys constantly release videos that are often coinciding with jobs I’m doing in my house at that same time, I’m going to be covering a steel beam and I’m considering getting one of the hollowed out beams to cover it, could you tell us a bit more about the mitred oak beam covering you mentioned or potentially make a video about it. Good job Ed 👍
Have a look at ‘manor wood’ he is rebuilding after a fire and have made some ‘beams’ to cover up steels.
L3V3L .. brilliant license plate for a carpenter. 😆
Good job!
A lumen is equivalent to a candle. So 10,000 lumens is the brightness of 10,000 candles. Are it was when I was at college lol.
I work in lighting you’re correct.
Great job
I just made a holding system similar to what you had to install a ridge beam “a very heavy 24’ ridge beam by myself” !!
Another classic Gary cameo appearance
Credit to Ed for staying calm, robin makes a mountain out of a mole hill sometimes just chuck the beam in mate
Easy when you’ve got Ed the man mountain
He's using power tools and his finger is bandaged. Is it just me or does that seem a little ironic? 😉
Anyone keeping count of how many times Gary gets caught in the shot? 🤣
Yeah! We need more of Gary walking through the shot and holding the beam with a couple of fingers. Just to steady it 😁
Very smart
Perhaps the oak will be supporting the other roof structures in time.
Looks amazing, can I ask what type of screws were used into the oak, Spax Stainless wafer head, wirox or something similar ?
Yes Mark I use the wafer head wirox spax screws they are great!!
Next time you do something like that use a couple bakers scaffolds to support the beam.
What are they?? we may have a different name for them??
@@ukconstruction Ohh yeah, i forgot about that honestly. But i guess it would be called just a tower scaffold. Pretty standard scaffold. The ones i have are on casters and have a steel deck you can raise and lower.
Sending all my oak 💚 to the craftsmen at #TeamRC
Ed wasn't in charge for long 😂
Robin, Lumens are a measure of light intensity (I Googled it) 😁
Lumen is also the inside void of veins or arteries which I also learned on TH-cam during Lockdown 😁 .So now I can do carpentry AND heart surgery 😂
Blimey, I am not trying heart surgery!!!!
Another great vid, mate
What impressed me the most I must confess, was the right angle impact extension - I looked in your Amazon store but couldn't find it; could you provide that tool make and model?
Biggy props, Robin
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Irony. Joists supporting the beam rather than visa versa. Tidy job though.....
Nice cosmetic job but I wonder if it would be like that in reality. To be more authentic I think the beam would need to be thicker due to its length and 'loading' and probably not over the window.
A lumen is the unit of luminous flux, a measure of the total quantity of visible light. 12.5 lumens is 1 watt. Lights are officially called lumenaires. On the subject of measurement, if Ed grows another 10mm, he'll completely grow out of that waistcoat he's wearing. It's further up his back than John Waynes was! 🤣🤣 (Plus he's almost pushed his legs too far through his jeans! 🤣🤣🤣🤣)
as the bearing weight of the joist was so low it might have been easier just to tack the ceiling then install the joist? just a thought, allways more than one way to skin a cat.
How would the oak beam be fixed to the ceiling joists if the ceiling was already boarded though??
Chuffed
Wow! 👏👏👍
Ed the forklift
How did Ed ensure by planing the beam and sanding it that it was not reducing the rebate depth? Would it not have been better in doing the process the other way round.
Well the edge that was against the joists was not planed, so apart from a couple of millimetres of the two sides the rebates will be the same
@@ukconstruction Thanks that would explain that one. Good job as always.👍👍👍
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Silly question, but what did you use to notch out the blocks? Was it a drill with chisel bit?
Yes Neil an SDS with a chisel function
What are lumens? The technical definition: a measure of how much visible light is emitted from a light source
BRIGHTNESS vs watts
220+ 25 W
400+ 40 W
700+ 60 W
900+ 75 W
1300+ 100 W
Thanks Alan, every day is a school day!!
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To me, to you 🤔
Another silly question, why can't that oak beam support the ceiling beams instead of the other way around? Notch the walls on both sides and I would think it could carry another few hundred of kilos upstairs?
That beam is purely decorative , green wood. All those joists have been engineered to support the upper floor so there’s really no need to get any extra load bearing from that beam especially when it’s not been engineered to take load.
@@cannontrodder well oak beams have never been engineered but have been used as a strong building material for thousands of years. But what I meant was, now that you got the beam anyway, couldn't it take a bit of weight as well?
@@09conrado if the two ends are packed up sufficiently it will hold some weight, up until it starts to sag in the middle. at that point, whichever is stiffer between the oak beam and the joists will effectively be carrying all the weight.
although saying that, I'm not sure if Robin will pack up the ends, because that would then create a new load path directly above the window and door lintels, which probably creates more problems than it solves.
What about the increased load acting down on the window head lintel?
This is purely decorative and the weight of the beam is distributed as explained in the video through each joist and also the end bearing, we have calculated accurately since finding the delivery ticket with the beam weight that each fixed point or bearing point carries roughly 9 kilos so there is no real additional loads over the window opening, good observation though
Why didn’t you use the window on the other side to bring the beam through then it would be roughly in the right place ?
From other parts of the clip, it looks like a quite small side gap, probably not long enough for the beam? Plus then you'd have to do 2x the distance in reality
The road and the hedge where a problem let alone the 100m walk round!!
What's the standard ceiling height in the UK? Because in some shots it looks like Ed is close to bumping his head on the ceiling.
I am not sure that there is a standard height, we are about 2.35m here at the Big Build Ed is super tall and I am super short!!!!
Is their a reason you didn't get dell boy& Rodney in to help'
They where busy!!
Good job but it would be better if you could sort your microphone out as half the time it sounded like a lot of mumbling nonsense.
Can't watch this, bit to frame rate glitchy. But good luck. :D
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A beam for holding the house up , not the house holding the beam , may as well give the beam to a project that needs it's strengh
Undulation
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Nobody knows what a lumen is………😂😂😂
not my cup of tea and i think the cost, effort etc is a waste plus it already has a low ceiling, but each to their own i guess
Does seem a bit kitsch these days
Just doing what the client asks, I guess.