I was looking for a video exactly like this. I’m not using tape but I am trying to emulate the workflow using a computer and outboard mixing gear, and this answered all the questions I had
Hello from Westchester, NY. I've always wanted to record to tape, mainly because of workflow; I like the idea of committing to a sound rather than tweaking it in the mix later. In fact, for my home recordings, I gave up on using computer DAWs and bought a Tascam digital multi for this reason. Nothing kills my vibe more than staring at a computer screen for hours.
That's awesome, I know a lot of folks who feel the same way. Check out Boy Golden, he records at home with an affordable tape machine and has brought some of this stuff into the studio to mix :)
there is an effect i've found with recording also that decisions get exponentially longer to make as the process goes on. The more committed and vibey a recording is to start the easier it is to work with down the line.
People have a problem with it because mf's don't explain how to hook it up they are petty that's why daws existed because engineers and producers where very petty back then. It was competitive the more people didn't know how to do something the more it was easier for major studios and producers to thrive. Now the older producers and engineers are upset because people can easily find out how.
@@Allious131 it's still not the same thing. everyone has their own workflow anyway. with daws, you could almost imitate by having the same plugins, with these things, even if you do have the same exact setup,, it's simply impossible to imitate
Looks like a really nice setup. My home studio also set up for tape. Actually that is all I have, I don’t have a DAW or anything else at all, a Stephens 821b and an Ampex 440c 1/4”. The 821b is very stable and doesn’t take a lot of maintenance. I do most of my edits by bouncing between my 2 track and the 24 track using a Lynx synchronizer. It takes a bit of time but moving notes, lines, verses is definitely possible.
It's a good medium for real musicians, who can actually play, particularly when they make decisions up front and commit to them. It's probably not so great for what a lot of folks do these days, which is closer to data processing than music making. I'm a moderately good musician (once good, slowly becoming good again.) I have to use a computer, but I treat it like a tape deck. I try to record everything with effects and processing and 'automation' (or manualomation as I call it) all committed to. No editing, and no MIDI if it can be avoided. Will it be as inhumanly slick as something edited to death on a computer? No. but it'll be me.
I'm using an A800 mk III (24-track) and MTR-90III (16-track). Just got an m79 as well (16 and 24 track). Have a bunch of mix down decks, including ATR-102 (XIRON penthouses, 1/2"), A80 mk IV (1/2", with discrete electronics), and an m79 (1/2"). Are you using a Quad Eight console?
I would be interested in recording to tape. But cartoons have taught me that it's semi frequently used by villains to start villainous fires of villany. Have you taken appropriate measures to prevent such things from happening?
Question: When copying/bouncing from tape to tape and again to tape, does not the sound quality deteriorate to some degree with every copying process? 🤔
Bouncing from one tape to another ads noise every generation yes, but we don't really ever do that here aside from going to a 2 track master tape. Going from tape to digital doesn't add extra noise though.
The answer for me is, avoid having to recall as much as humanly possible, commit wherever you can , move to the computer when it's neccassary for the project😆. No artists really have time or budget for recalling these days even if they say they do, that's been our experience.
@@nofunclub2604 Thank you for the reply ! In the 'old days' there were several attempts to make recallable consoles, and perhaps you've heard of people taking polaroids of the console settings in a vain attempt to store settings photographically. Interesting that time a a determining factor these days. I go back to the days when people like Brian Wilson would spend weeks in a studio on one project. Also the Beatles, etc. Different times ! Best of luck to you ! Bill P.
Albini worship aside...you guys have Burl conversion, so you know that with today's UAD pluggies it is actually not necessary and is still kinda a pain in the ass...unless you go narrow format. Long live the Revox B77!!!
Real tape is hella litty. Also, yinz are FUN-ny. If I end up recording with ya, I am buying the tape and burying it like The Gospel of Thomas. Maybe someone will find the music in 2,000 years or whatev. 😆 Do you sell jars of clay or only limp biscuits?
hi have alot of reel to reel decks and some are HEAVY BIG TIME i got my decks when the price of them was very very low there are deck out there that make great fix up there is one format you could use to master you recording that is all missed out alot and is very low price no not vhs shit BETACAM SP runs at high speed and players are so easy to find now i have worked on 60 of them i buy them and fixed them save and not going to be binned any more
I really like the timber of tape machine, I don’t know if it is convenient for you to give me your email or telegram?I will release some songs and want to master it by using tape machine ,is it possible ? Waiting for your reply 😊😊😊
So happy that in these times I don't have tape machines anymore.
Hail daws! Hail digital arrange cutting!
indeed, they are pretty sweet
How does this not have a million plays? You guys are hilarious :D Thanks for the insights ✌️
I have been floating through the internet for years... but I think I finally found home.
Be my planet please
I was looking for a video exactly like this. I’m not using tape but I am trying to emulate the workflow using a computer and outboard mixing gear, and this answered all the questions I had
Awesome! Really glad to hear that.
this video is really funny informative and weird at the same time :D never seen such a editing style! really funny and nice
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
This is my new favorite video 😂
This is me explaining how I record most my stuff to cassette 4 track. No one gets it
Hello from Westchester, NY. I've always wanted to record to tape, mainly because of workflow; I like the idea of committing to a sound rather than tweaking it in the mix later. In fact, for my home recordings, I gave up on using computer DAWs and bought a Tascam digital multi for this reason. Nothing kills my vibe more than staring at a computer screen for hours.
That's awesome, I know a lot of folks who feel the same way. Check out Boy Golden, he records at home with an affordable tape machine and has brought some of this stuff into the studio to mix :)
wow such a great find. Thanks for directing me to them!@@nofunclub2604
that's why you have to keep it simple on tape, the first time is the only one that counts
there is an effect i've found with recording also that decisions get exponentially longer to make as the process goes on. The more committed and vibey a recording is to start the easier it is to work with down the line.
wow wow wow i am in love with these msuic
People have a problem with it because mf's don't explain how to hook it up they are petty that's why daws existed because engineers and producers where very petty back then. It was competitive the more people didn't know how to do something the more it was easier for major studios and producers to thrive. Now the older producers and engineers are upset because people can easily find out how.
@@Allious131 it's still not the same thing. everyone has their own workflow anyway. with daws, you could almost imitate by having the same plugins, with these things, even if you do have the same exact setup,, it's simply impossible to imitate
I thought I was tha only smart person on earth, nice video guys and girls :) What mixing board is that ?
it's a sphere eclipse c!
Thanks @@nofunclub2604
Looks like a really nice setup. My home studio also set up for tape. Actually that is all I have, I don’t have a DAW or anything else at all, a Stephens 821b and an Ampex 440c 1/4”. The 821b is very stable and doesn’t take a lot of maintenance. I do most of my edits by bouncing between my 2 track and the 24 track using a Lynx synchronizer. It takes a bit of time but moving notes, lines, verses is definitely possible.
woah nice! living on the edge
This place looks amazing! I can totally imagine it being in the middle of an enchanted forest
it is in fact in a rather industrial area haha but forests are not far away
It's a good medium for real musicians, who can actually play, particularly when they make decisions up front and commit to them. It's probably not so great for what a lot of folks do these days, which is closer to data processing than music making.
I'm a moderately good musician (once good, slowly becoming good again.) I have to use a computer, but I treat it like a tape deck. I try to record everything with effects and processing and 'automation' (or manualomation as I call it) all committed to. No editing, and no MIDI if it can be avoided.
Will it be as inhumanly slick as something edited to death on a computer? No. but it'll be me.
preach.
so fucking pretentious lmao
So nice!!! ;-) Good luck boys!!!!
I'm using an A800 mk III (24-track) and MTR-90III (16-track). Just got an m79 as well (16 and 24 track). Have a bunch of mix down decks, including ATR-102 (XIRON penthouses, 1/2"), A80 mk IV (1/2", with discrete electronics), and an m79 (1/2").
Are you using a Quad Eight console?
Awesome! It's not quad eight but a Sphere eclipse C which is from the same lineage. Great console!
awesome vid! loved the cowbell hahahaha!
there should have been a little more probably
@@nofunclub2604 hehe ya!
You had me at chips-munching
I have got to record an album here wooooow
Yeah! come on down
I love a good stumble down a rabbit hole. Cool video.
Thank you, we do as well :^)
I would be interested in recording to tape. But cartoons have taught me that it's semi frequently used by villains to start villainous fires of villany. Have you taken appropriate measures to prevent such things from happening?
It's often hard to know when and where such villains will appear and what form they will take. We have taken the precautions we can.
Question: When copying/bouncing from tape to tape and again to tape, does not the sound quality deteriorate to some degree with every copying process? 🤔
Bouncing from one tape to another ads noise every generation yes, but we don't really ever do that here aside from going to a 2 track master tape. Going from tape to digital doesn't add extra noise though.
@@nofunclub2604 Alright, thank you! 😎👍
Yes you get more noise and you loose dynamic as well
This is awesome hahaaha
thank you! 🙏Glad you we could provide a lol in these trying times
thank you so much holy cow
Thank you for watching!
This is a cool but off the wall video! 🤣
How about mix recall on the console ?
(Trick question, sorry, I couldn't resist !).
The answer for me is, avoid having to recall as much as humanly possible, commit wherever you can , move to the computer when it's neccassary for the project😆. No artists really have time or budget for recalling these days even if they say they do, that's been our experience.
@@nofunclub2604 Thank you for the reply !
In the 'old days' there were several attempts to make recallable consoles, and perhaps you've heard of people taking polaroids of the console settings in a vain attempt to store settings photographically.
Interesting that time a a determining factor these days. I go back to the days when people like Brian Wilson would spend weeks in a studio on one project.
Also the Beatles, etc.
Different times !
Best of luck to you !
Bill P.
where did you get the db 33 metronome 😭😭😭
Haha I'm really not sure. Maybe Rob can answer
Super cool
yall wild and its welcomed
Albini worship aside...you guys have Burl conversion, so you know that with today's UAD pluggies it is actually not necessary and is still kinda a pain in the ass...unless you go narrow format. Long live the Revox B77!!!
Nice
Primo content folks!
gracias Gab!
@@nofunclub2604 keep up all the no fun you're having!
No Fun Club is fucking YES Fun Club
Real tape is hella litty.
Also, yinz are FUN-ny.
If I end up recording with ya, I am buying the tape and burying it like The Gospel of Thomas. Maybe someone will find the music in 2,000 years or whatev. 😆 Do you sell jars of clay or only limp biscuits?
We have clay and biscuits on sale, also puddles of mud
hi have alot of reel to reel decks and some are HEAVY BIG TIME i got my decks when the price of them was very very low there are deck out there that make great fix up
there is one format you could use to master you recording that is all missed out alot and is very low price no not vhs shit BETACAM SP runs at high speed
and players are so easy to find now i have worked on 60 of them i buy them and fixed them save and not going to be binned any more
They are indeed very heavy
Hope you guys are still kicking .
We are still here!
The 'I'm just a normal human' girl is hilarious. Somehow I don't believe her.
Yeah not so sure about that either 😆
I really like the timber of tape machine, I don’t know if it is convenient for you to give me your email or telegram?I will release some songs and want to master it by using tape machine ,is it possible ? Waiting for your reply 😊😊😊
Hey, we can definitely do mastering to tape! Hit us up via the form on our website :) nofunclub.com/booking
Limp bizkit masters lmao
I didn't understand anything lmao :/
If you have to make a video where everyone is wearing masks...don't make the video.
😂
Psuedo tape experts
not sure if we are experts, but we can sure make a record
This is the dumbest video
@PedalTour it’s quite an accomplishment I know
my down finger is about your masks and it is so sad det your folowing on video