Many of good parents ignore their teenage sons and daughters adolescent wants and rebellious desires, its every families number #1 problem, teenagers.... Have you ever had a child go through the teenager rebellious years??? There are no proper signs or answers in which to follow....! Michigan may become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children! Strange how the Crumbly teenager hasn't seen any demons since his arrest!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
As someone who did that a lot as a kid, I 100% agree. 😂 Good thing I learned the lesson the hard way, grew up and generally present myself professionally now. This atty is a hot mess
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
I think she's fighting as best she can with an unlikable client. But, I think she made a fatal mistake when she "opened the door" for Prosecution to question the boyfriend about the things Jennifer told him about being afraid Ethan would do something stupid with the gun they bought him.
@@medahenderson3055I’ve worked as a paralegal for a criminal defense law firm for over 30 years and I’ve worked probably 80+ criminal trials from felony theft to murder…. And in my opinion she is NOT effective as a Def Atty - she is most likely turning the jury off by her aggressive manner but even more it’s her constant interrupting in a very whiny and tantrum type manner of not only the DA’s but the Judge ( which juries really don’t like) and her cutting off the witnesses as they are still trying to answer her question…. Juries usually like witnesses especially State witnesses who come across as nice people who are being honest …. Defense attorneys absolutely play roles depending on who the Defendant is ( male or female, ) and certainly the crimes they are charged with, how aggressive the Prosectors are ( if the DA is very aggressive like a Juan Martinez type the defense plays the gentle role )…. But this Def atty is playing the over worked but constantly working hard def atty without the resources afforded the State … her constant complaints of “ I need to see the whole exhibit !! “ or “ They didn’t give me this exhibit!” … only works once or twice… as the State keeps saying she’s had all the exhibits for over 2 years and she keeps saying in front of the jury that she has so much to review, so much evidence given to her differently … 30 boxes etc ..there’s no way she doesn’t have paralegals and secretaries, and assistants …. In general juries tend to like Female attorneys particularly when they are presenting themselves to be a small independent defense firm with one or two lawyers … but juries don’t like to feel like they are being played - and this lady is really close to appearing like her tantrums and disrespect are just bad over acting and IF it’s an act she needs to tone it down … and if it isn’t an act she is becoming seriously unlikeable very very quickly - it is really at the point where her behavior of loudly and rudely interrupting and arguing like a moody angry teenager is going to start really pissing off the Jury which will 100% affect how the jury looks at Jennifer Crumbley - right or wrong it’s just human and if she were a good Defense attorney she would actually be aware of all these things I’ve said and she would have the maturity and common sense and training to control her approach in the courtroom …. 11:45 I will say here the Judge and the attorneys having this discussion in front of the jury, making the State look bad is incredibly unprofessional…. And she’s absolutely coming across as siding with the whiny argumentative Def atty way too often…. 13:08 her constant loud complaining in front of the jury is so incredibly unprofessional - I have never in 30 years seen a Judge allow any of this behavior be seen by the jury … Juries don’t have legal educations but they have a million different educations and jobs and lifestyles - but the one thing they ALL have in common is not wanting their time or their presence disrespected … and the Judge’s lack of trying to control little miss whiny pants and all the fighting is probably really annoying them now …. But the last thing I’ll say is that in 30 years of being in courtrooms for the Defense - just because someone has a law degree really doesn’t mean they are smart or good at their job!! I think we are seeing a perfect example here…
Her whinging never stops. She sounds like a spoiled teenager complaining about her parents. How she thinks this is doing her client any favours with the jury, I'm not sure.
Just imagine this woman making a comment in front of the parents of the victims that she is going to kill herself bc she couldn’t get the PowerPoint to work. My 14 year old would say something like that!!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
This trial is a circus!! The defense attorney has absolutely no idea how to do her job and the judge is acting like her overindulgent mother. I am appalled at this farce.
Many of good parents ignore their teenage sons and daughters adolescent wants and rebellious desires, its every families number #1 problem, teenagers.... Have you ever had a child go through the teenager rebellious years? There are no proper signs or answers in which to follow....! Michigan may become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children! Strange how the Crumbly teenager hasn't seen any demons since his arrest!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
They all have to talk to the defense attorney like she's a child. I don't understand why the judge is allowing her behavior but she's not doing her client any favors.
Perhaps the favor is that she might be incompetent ? Who can afford a lawyer unless you sell your house? How do you sell your house if you are incarcerated? Or pay your bills? Etc etc etc
THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT SHE'S DOING. MY CHILD COULD PUT ON A BETTER DEFENSE THAN THIS LADY. I MEAN SERIOUSLY LADY GROW UP AND DO YOUR JOB. IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM OF PREPARATION FOR THIS CASE. YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD THROWING A TANTRUM WHO WANTS HER MOMMY ( THE JUDGE ) TO STOP THE PROSECUTION FROM PICKING ON HER.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
@@MrScaryLemonHead I think @oceancat0450 is referring to taking control of her courtroom not the volume of her voice. It is literally the judge’s job to control the courtroom. This judge is not doing a great job either.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
Judge should have taken a sidebar instead of arguing all that in front of the jury. They should not be fighting over repetitive exhibits in front of the jury or the witness. This is the kind of kangaroo proceedings that are bound to lead to a mistrial or a reversal of a conviction. It's embarrassing, really.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
The Jury will be making the same judgements about the defense attorney as TH-camrs. She's not helping her client. Some of us will know how we feel when we didn't do our homework on time and are now being called on it. Question is which of us are whiners and which just suck it up. I guess Crumbley chose the attorney she deserves.
No one has addressed the issue with the School principal or counselors. THIS is missing. We, who are parents, look to our authorities in the school paradigm, as "guides"... we look for details on the path we are shown. The school should have ORDERED that he was sent home with his parents for a psychological evaluation. Why? Because we as parents have relied on that guidance for over 70 years. Is she and her husband responsible? 100% !!! But so are the authorities at the school!!!! They should be on trial as well!!!!! Why didnt they check his back pack??????? Its infuriating they didnt do so
Right. Especially as the testimony from the counselor was that they lived in a "gun culture"....On one hand we have hysteria over guns and on the other total complacency. FROM THE SCHOOL AUTHORITIES> @@JeanneGuarnieri-vs7zn
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN! Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County! Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state! Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
She's the one that opened the door to the jury's now knowing about the affair between the fireman and Mom Crumbley. Something tells me That's going to turn out to be a big mistake.
@@NancyClue932Before the trial started, the judge ruled that that affair (and possibly others) were not going to be allowed as evidence. She also ruled that the horrible condition of the house wasn't going to be brought in, including marijuana being grown in the basement and liquor bottles everywhere. But, as we saw, pictures of the inside of the house were entered as evidence, not sure what that was about (?). By bringing in the affair, her lawyer has now made it possible for the prosecutor to question the guy, plus, it makes Mom Crumbley look that much worse to the jury, at least, you would think.
Ohhh look who is dysregulated emotionally AGAIN. Defense attorney NEEDS to tape her own mouth shut. She is so unable to control her emotions that she will not allow anyone to finish a sentence. Whine, pout, hissy fit. 6 year old children have better emotional regulation.
I am getting the impression that the defense attorney has spent much more time thinking about her personal appearance than about being an actual defense attorney.
This defends attorney is absolutely ridiculous and should not be a lawyer!! This would be me in court trying to argue with the judge 😂😂 I'm not an attorney for a reason
The most important thing that he says is that Jennifer contacted him the day she was called into school and told him she was afraid he was going to do something stupid. They have to show willful disregard for the danger that she knew of. He just testified that she did know he was dangerous before that meeting and before the shooting.
I do not believe that was portrayed or proven in the evidence presented. The witness opinion changed from media influence. “Doing something dumb” is the text testified- does not show disregard to dangerous the son was.
She was afraid he was going to harm himself, not anyone else. Even when she heard of the shooting, she mentioned being afraid that he was going to “kill himself.”
@@ashleymcclarren3951Suicidal people r very dangerous as they can change their minds & hurt others. So, someone suicidal is at risk for being Homicidal & Someone Homicidal is at risk for suicide.
@@pams4401 they don’t understand the rules of evidence and how evidentiary motions work, and if it was not put into evidence, they cannot sneak it in and that’s what people don’t understand. She’s just doing her job like you said.
What? Defense is putting the DA in their place with how they are sneaking in evidence and not following discovery rules and then day of trial pulling info not originally given.
I’ve worked as a paralegal for a criminal defense law firm for over 30 years and I’ve worked probably 80+ criminal trials from felony theft to murder…. And in my opinion she is NOT effective as a Def Atty - she is most likely turning the jury off by her aggressive manner but even more it’s her constant interrupting in a very whiny and tantrum type manner of not only the DA’s but the Judge ( which juries really don’t like) and her cutting off the witnesses as they are still trying to answer her question…. Juries usually like witnesses especially State witnesses who come across as nice people who are being honest …. Defense attorneys absolutely play roles depending on who the Defendant is ( male or female, ) and certainly the crimes they are charged with, how aggressive the Prosectors are ( if the DA is very aggressive like a Juan Martinez type the defense plays the gentle role )…. But this Def atty is playing the over worked but constantly working hard def atty without the resources afforded the State … her constant complaints of “ I need to see the whole exhibit !! “ or “ They didn’t give me this exhibit!” … only works once or twice… as the State keeps saying she’s had all the exhibits for over 2 years and she keeps saying in front of the jury that she has so much to review, so much evidence given to her differently … 30 boxes etc ..she should absolutely know this case inside out and all the evidence- there’s a 99% chance this case is the only work she’s focused on the last year at least - ( many trial watchers will know a case inside out from just watching the trial twice…. It’s not that hard) there’s no way she doesn’t have paralegals and secretaries, and assistants …. And they probably hired temp staff for the last 3 months as trial prep really got going - In general juries tend to like Female attorneys particularly when they are presenting themselves to be a small independent defense firm with one or two lawyers … but juries don’t like to feel like they are being played - and this lady is really close to appearing like her tantrums and disrespect are just bad over-acting and IF it’s an act she needs to tone it down … and if it isn’t an act she is becoming seriously unlikeable very very quickly - it is really at the point where her behavior of loudly and rudely interrupting and arguing like a moody angry teenager is going to start really pissing off the Jury which will 100% affect how the jury looks at Jennifer Crumbley - right or wrong it’s just human and if she were a good Defense attorney she would actually be aware of all these things I’ve said and she would have the maturity and common sense and training to control her approach in the courtroom …. the Judge and the attorneys having this discussion in front of the jury, making the State look bad is incredibly unprofessional…. And the Judge is absolutely coming across as siding with the whiny argumentative Def atty way too often…. 12:58 her constant loud complaining in front of the jury is so incredibly unprofessional - I have never seen a Judge allow any of this behavior be seen by the jury repeatedly and that’s because it can make the Judge look like she isn’t in control of her courtroom … and the more she keeps complaining the State exhibits are a “ surprise” the less and less prepared for this trial she appears - she should KNOW this ….. but it seems she may be unable to control herself in her desperation to argue her case…. She needs to quit while she’s ahead - when the Judge agrees she can do something she needs to say Thank you and shut up but instead she keeps on and in trying to throw the State under the bus… Juries don’t have legal educations but they have a million different educations and jobs and lifestyles - but the one thing they ALL have in common is not wanting their time or their presence disrespected … and the Judge’s lack of trying to control little miss whiny pants and all the fighting is probably really annoying them now …. But the last thing I’ll say is that in 30 years of being in courtrooms for the Defense - just because someone has a law degree really doesn’t mean they are smart or good at their job!! I think we are seeing a perfect example here…
Loved ur cimment also but u forgot the poor court reporter having to take this all down also. Im still blown away that fireman chose Ethans mom to have an affair with. I cant visualise it. Also what he must feel after all of this. Ethan was begging for attention....
This is not her “friend”. This was her LOVER. He should’ve believed Jennifer, the first time she showed him who she was when she said Ethan is done it’s time to focus on ourselves.” And now she’s doing the exact same thing, throwing him under the bus, exposing everything they did around our town. How’s this man supposed to go back home and live in peace. What a clusterF and an embarrassment for our county!
How unprofessional of the defense to speak about all of that in open court when it should have been done during a sidebar. That woman’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
How unprofessional DA for bot following proper rules of procedure and conduct and slipping in evidence not given in discovery. Defense is doing her job representing a client.
The defense is horrible. She has most likely had all the files and should have read everything. If the jury is as annoyed with her as people watching are, it doesn’t bode well for her client.
Those exhibits may be in this defense attorney's colleague stack of papers -from when they were representing both Jennifer and James at once. That's one of the reasons you dont get two attorneys from the same law firm to defend two defendants fighting the same case, causes all kind of conflict.
If you look up the term “ incompetent defense attorney “ or “what NOT to do if you’re a defense attorney”, you will see a picture of Crumbley’s defense attorney.
Inexperienced? She's been an attorney for 20 years with her own practice. This is an act. I guess she thinks being a spoiled brat will win over the jury...
@@blackmoom i'm thinking the fire fighter was told this affair (promised) the affair wasn't going to come up. Did anyone hear if he's divorced now due to this from the beginning. If not, he's so screwed
He can’t deal with the fact he threw his marriage & reputation away for a piece of kitty cat that looks like…that. Yikes! And ,a loser/bad parent/liar/hag who was cheating on him too.
It seems like the lawyer for the defendant wasn't truthful and honest with her attorney this is where it goes bad when your attorney's trying to stick up for you you should be honest with your attorney and tell your attorney that way she knows what she's in for
I now believe EC did this to get back at his parents… why else would he say “I’m shooting up the school because my parents won’t listen to me and get me help”. He wants everyone to know how terrible they were
Screw EC. He is one sick loser who wouldn't take his meds and refused to accept the help offered, mandated. He did it to get attention and focus. He is responsible for what he did. Yeah, kind of oblivious parents, but this trial sets a dangerous precedent.
Judge & defense lawyer having some kind of relationship on the side??? How else to explain this nonsense? It’s painful/ hysterical to watch these women
OMG this judge needs to get this shite tightened UP! It’s been reported that the Defense atty is an experienced lawyer- WOW…she’s a mess, and the judge is treating her with way too much leniency and coddling. I wonder if the Judge has a bratty teenager at home?
Defense attorney is such a cry baby. My goodness, she's AWFUL. Her behavior might help Jennifer get a retrial if she's found guilty. Jennifer deserves some prison time tho, so I hope she doesn't get a retrial. Jennifer didn't seem to give one shitola about anyone but herself.
“This is 77 minus 8 pages”…😂😂😂 really! That educated attorney can not quickly figure out that it’s 69 pages for her to review? What a s#itshow! That Defense Attorney is a cry baby piece of work 🤡 Apparently she did not prep for this trial.
They do…. But the school was under the impression that the parents weren’t available to be with their son. So to send him home alone with what they knew at the time? I understand. My daughter had some mental health issues and I was called to the school last year and asked to pick her up for a mental evaluation and to be cleared to go back to school. There’s a paper you have to get signed to go back to school. It was a really hard transition back to full time in person for her and many kids. They gave me the list of places I could take her. We were at the emergency room until almost midnight. The hospital wouldn’t let us leave until my daughter’s therapist confirm with the head Dr. at the time he believed she was safe. If I left without their consent they would call CPS. That’s the protocol. The school followed almost every protocol except checking the bag. The parents put the administrators in a horrible spot by not taking him no matter what the school said! So when the parents bailed on Ethan again, the school was under the impression they were giving him support by keeping him. ESP when all Ethan felt was alone and like nobody cared. -sorry for the novel…
The school, (teachers, students) raised several concerns about EC, I don't think the school took it very seriously. Sent him home? Yeah, that's effective.
This trial makes me afraid for my kids : For whom I devote every resource I have to their well-being 7:02 on a daily basis, being hurt by a peer who’s parents give Zero F’s about being an effective Role Model. I work really hard to give them a good life . And, NOW I have to worry about them being taken out by someone neglected & enabled by their parents. Like WTF? If parents aren’t gonna hold up their part of the social contract , they shud be penalized by prison. Where was CPS? I’d like to know how many if any previous reports to CPS.
This prosecution attorney has a degree in Mansplaining and he's barely able to contain his impatience even with the judge. He's not doing himself any favours.
What a shyte show!! The judge allowing this defense attorney to speak in this manner and crossing her arms like an eight year old child is beyond disgraceful! How on earth did this attorney make it this far without being disbarred? This whole trial is going to be a waste of taxpayers money; the defense AND the judge are opening the door for a retrial!!
Oh my God why is this judge is letting defense attorney run the show? Attorney is so immature and unprofessional this must be her first case. But I’ve never seen arguments like this in front of a jury. The judge has no control and Many times acts like she doesn’t know what to do. This is a circus.
I’m so disturbed by today’s testimony…this guy and Jennifer would meet random strangers in hotels…so weird! Who does that? She doesn’t seem the type to do something like that…disturbing and disgusting.
This behavior of the defense attorney is an embarrassment - how is this allowed? She is like a spoiled brat; with her arms crossed, whining, complaining. They need to get their crap together before presenting evidence to the court. This is ridiculous.
Defense lawyer is unprofessional. She sounds like a brat in kindergarten.
She was Larry Nassars lawyer too not a good person
My kindergartener would have been sternly corrected if either of children had behaved even a little bit like Shannon
A brat who forgot her adderal, neither has any respect altho prosecutor is probably just fed up
Many of good parents ignore their teenage sons and daughters adolescent wants and rebellious desires, its every families number #1 problem, teenagers.... Have you ever had a child go through the teenager rebellious years??? There are no proper signs or answers in which to follow....!
Michigan may become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children!
Strange how the Crumbly teenager hasn't seen any demons since his arrest!
I was going to say the same thing
This defense attorney is the sister that we’re all glad we never had.
Yeah really!!
I’m pretty sure it “Pam” from the show Office
If she says I'm sorry 1 more time...
FACTS
@@Judesgram2 LoL I hear you.
This defense temper tantrums is appalling . And in front of the jury?
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
Crumbly has the lawyer that she deserves
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
Sounds like someone who didnt study for a test till the night before
As someone who did that a lot as a kid, I 100% agree. 😂 Good thing I learned the lesson the hard way, grew up and generally present myself professionally now. This atty is a hot mess
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
The judge should be firmer with this alleged defense attorney, who has been complaining since day one.
I don't know, not complying with the rules of discovery is a big deal and sets up a Brady violation basis for appeal.....
She’s doing her job!!! She may. E redundant but it’s actually effective- lol. She is getting her point across
I think she's fighting as best she can with an unlikable client. But, I think she made a fatal mistake when she "opened the door" for Prosecution to question the boyfriend about the things Jennifer told him about being afraid Ethan would do something stupid with the gun they bought him.
@@medahenderson3055IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE.
Being this hard to like makes the jury despise your client too.
@@medahenderson3055I’ve worked as a paralegal for a criminal defense law firm for over 30 years and I’ve worked probably 80+ criminal trials from felony theft to murder…. And in my opinion she is NOT effective as a Def Atty - she is most likely turning the jury off by her aggressive manner but even more it’s her constant interrupting in a very whiny and tantrum type manner of not only the DA’s but the Judge ( which juries really don’t like) and her cutting off the witnesses as they are still trying to answer her question…. Juries usually like witnesses especially State witnesses who come across as nice people who are being honest …. Defense attorneys absolutely play roles depending on who the Defendant is ( male or female, ) and certainly the crimes they are charged with, how aggressive the Prosectors are ( if the DA is very aggressive like a Juan Martinez type the defense plays the gentle role )…. But this Def atty is playing the over worked but constantly working hard def atty without the resources afforded the State … her constant complaints of “ I need to see the whole exhibit !! “ or “ They didn’t give me this exhibit!” … only works once or twice… as the State keeps saying she’s had all the exhibits for over 2 years and she keeps saying in front of the jury that she has so much to review, so much evidence given to her differently … 30 boxes etc ..there’s no way she doesn’t have paralegals and secretaries, and assistants …. In general juries tend to like Female attorneys particularly when they are presenting themselves to be a small independent defense firm with one or two lawyers … but juries don’t like to feel like they are being played - and this lady is really close to appearing like her tantrums and disrespect are just bad over acting and IF it’s an act she needs to tone it down … and if it isn’t an act she is becoming seriously unlikeable very very quickly - it is really at the point where her behavior of loudly and rudely interrupting and arguing like a moody angry teenager is going to start really pissing off the Jury which will 100% affect how the jury looks at Jennifer Crumbley - right or wrong it’s just human and if she were a good Defense attorney she would actually be aware of all these things I’ve said and she would have the maturity and common sense and training to control her approach in the courtroom ….
11:45 I will say here the Judge and the attorneys having this discussion in front of the jury, making the State look bad is incredibly unprofessional…. And she’s absolutely coming across as siding with the whiny argumentative Def atty way too often…. 13:08 her constant loud complaining in front of the jury is so incredibly unprofessional - I have never in 30 years seen a Judge allow any of this behavior be seen by the jury … Juries don’t have legal educations but they have a million different educations and jobs and lifestyles - but the one thing they ALL have in common is not wanting their time or their presence disrespected … and the Judge’s lack of trying to control little miss whiny pants and all the fighting is probably really annoying them now ….
But the last thing I’ll say is that in 30 years of being in courtrooms for the Defense - just because someone has a law degree really doesn’t mean they are smart or good at their job!! I think we are seeing a perfect example here…
Her whinging never stops. She sounds like a spoiled teenager complaining about her parents. How she thinks this is doing her client any favours with the jury, I'm not sure.
Just imagine this woman making a comment in front of the parents of the victims that she is going to kill herself bc she couldn’t get the PowerPoint to work. My 14 year old would say something like that!!
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
This trial is a circus!!
The defense attorney has absolutely no idea how to do her job and the judge is acting like her overindulgent mother.
I am appalled at this farce.
I know! The placating is nauseating! Tell this tart she is out of order!
I agree
@@Susieq0408 Well, it is Michigan.
Many of good parents ignore their teenage sons and daughters adolescent wants and rebellious desires, its every families number #1 problem, teenagers.... Have you ever had a child go through the teenager rebellious years? There are no proper signs or answers in which to follow....!
Michigan may become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children!
Strange how the Crumbly teenager hasn't seen any demons since his arrest!
@@turtletruth okay. But this has nothing to do with my comment….
Someone get word to the judge that she needs to get control of her courtroom.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
The judge is so ineffective and honestly I’d be in flat out panic if that was my defence attorney. She sounds like a spoiled 5 year old.
The judge is impartial and trying to avoid an appeal.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
They all have to talk to the defense attorney like she's a child. I don't understand why the judge is allowing her behavior but she's not doing her client any favors.
Perhaps the favor is that she might be incompetent ? Who can afford a lawyer unless you sell your house? How do you sell your house if you are incarcerated? Or pay your bills? Etc etc etc
THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE WHAT SHE'S DOING. MY CHILD COULD PUT ON A BETTER DEFENSE THAN THIS LADY. I MEAN SERIOUSLY LADY GROW UP AND DO YOUR JOB. IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT YOU HAVE DONE THE ABSOLUTE MINIMUM OF PREPARATION FOR THIS CASE. YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD THROWING A TANTRUM WHO WANTS HER MOMMY ( THE JUDGE ) TO STOP THE PROSECUTION FROM PICKING ON HER.
Why are you shouting?
EXACTLY….THIS DEFENSE ATTORNEY IS A NIGHTMARE
@@sarahsmith149 oh my. two shouty people
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
This judge had the audacity to tell this guy to speak up.
Ma’am YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP.
😂
The judge isn’t giving testimony….
@@MrScaryLemonHead
I think @oceancat0450 is referring to taking control of her courtroom not the volume of her voice. It is literally the judge’s job to control the courtroom. This judge is not doing a great job either.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
With all due respect, the Judge seems very meek & mild.
They need mics in the courtroom!!!
Judge should have taken a sidebar instead of arguing all that in front of the jury. They should not be fighting over repetitive exhibits in front of the jury or the witness. This is the kind of kangaroo proceedings that are bound to lead to a mistrial or a reversal of a conviction. It's embarrassing, really.
The WORST!
Your comment has aged badly.
@@MrScaryLemonHead Come back and say that after the conviction is overturned on appeal. Otherwise, snark off.
I'll come back after the appeal fails. Be sure to return to my comment so I'll know you're back.
In the meantime, have a great life!
Judge is more concerend about coddeling the defense attorney and feeding the witnesses/jury than presiding over actual case...
Seriously, what a joke
Jesus… your comment has aged so badly.
They sound like mother and daughter.. waaa waaa waaaa. Bookends repeating the same things over ad nauseum.
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
That defense attorney needs to remember who is in charge of the court. And the judge needs to remember she, herself, is.
I have never seen an attorney act like this in court. I hope at some point she realizes she's embarrassing herself.
They shouldn't be doing all of this arguing in front of the jury - it's all very unprofessional.
“Let me object to something because I read it 2 years ago and I don’t remember”
💀💀💀💀
What a piece of work that Shannon girl
Right?!?! She is ridiculous ‼️‼️‼️
No,the prosecution didn't put the entire thing in as an exhibit
It was discovery but not stated to be an exhibit until in the courtroom just now. I get what the defense attorneys saying and so does the judge
@@hereweare2031 because the prosecution wanted to try and be sneaky and get it in
Shannon Smith is up and down more times than Jennifer Crumbleys knickers!
The Jury will be making the same judgements about the defense attorney as TH-camrs. She's not helping her client. Some of us will know how we feel when we didn't do our homework on time and are now being called on it. Question is which of us are whiners and which just suck it up. I guess Crumbley chose the attorney she deserves.
No one has addressed the issue with the School principal or counselors.
THIS is missing. We, who are parents, look to our authorities in the school paradigm, as "guides"... we look for details on the path we are shown. The school should have ORDERED that he was sent home with his parents for a psychological evaluation. Why? Because we as parents have relied on that guidance for over 70 years.
Is she and her husband responsible? 100% !!! But so are the authorities at the school!!!!
They should be on trial as well!!!!!
Why didnt they check his back pack???????
Its infuriating they didnt do so
Right. Especially as the testimony from the counselor was that they lived in a "gun culture"....On one hand we have hysteria over guns and on the other total complacency. FROM THE SCHOOL AUTHORITIES> @@JeanneGuarnieri-vs7zn
IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN MICHIGAN!
Oakland County Michigan residents have learned the hard way, its economic and Judicial suicide residing in Oakland County!
Oakland County has the harshest legal punishments in the nation with the maximum level of sadistic policing with courts operating for profit with the highest level of perversely abusive probation conditions of any state!
Oakland Counties cruelties don't stop criminals, it’s a multibillion-dollar business for economic profit!
She's the one that opened the door to the jury's now knowing about the affair between the fireman and Mom Crumbley. Something tells me That's going to turn out to be a big mistake.
Wow!
When did the defense open the door exactly? I wanna see it.,
@@NancyClue932Before the trial started, the judge ruled that that affair (and possibly others) were not going to be allowed as evidence. She also ruled that the horrible condition of the house wasn't going to be brought in, including marijuana being grown in the basement and liquor bottles everywhere. But, as we saw, pictures of the inside of the house were entered as evidence, not sure what that was about (?). By bringing in the affair, her lawyer has now made it possible for the prosecutor to question the guy, plus, it makes Mom Crumbley look that much worse to the jury, at least, you would think.
Sure thought the fire captain would have better taste than the mom 😱
@@bonnietrottier3187 IKR? However, she appeared way more attractive than I thought she’d be in her police interview.
Ohhh look who is dysregulated emotionally AGAIN. Defense attorney NEEDS to tape her own mouth shut. She is so unable to control her emotions that she will not allow anyone to finish a sentence. Whine, pout, hissy fit. 6 year old children have better emotional regulation.
Hissy fit is perfect word for her behavior ‼️‼️‼️🤣🤣🤣
I think the prosecutor is just as whiny.
I am getting the impression that the defense attorney has spent much more time thinking about her personal appearance than about being an actual defense attorney.
She had less to work with and preparing a defense than she had to work with for her appearance
It’s becoming more and more clear that she expected her son to kill himself not other people.
That was my original thought when hearing about this case.
I agree. She gave him the weapon while telling a friend her "oopsie" was depressed. Glad to know someone else shared this opinion.
Never thought about that lol wow
I think so.too
That's about equally abhorrent🥺.
This defends attorney is absolutely ridiculous and should not be a lawyer!! This would be me in court trying to argue with the judge 😂😂 I'm not an attorney for a reason
If the genders were reversed the woman would be referred to as the mistress, with all its connotations. How come the man gets to be called a friend?
The most important thing that he says is that Jennifer contacted him the day she was called into school and told him she was afraid he was going to do something stupid. They have to show willful disregard for the danger that she knew of. He just testified that she did know he was dangerous before that meeting and before the shooting.
I do not believe that was portrayed or proven in the evidence presented. The witness opinion changed from media influence. “Doing something dumb” is the text testified- does not show disregard to dangerous the son was.
She was afraid he was going to harm himself, not anyone else. Even when she heard of the shooting, she mentioned being afraid that he was going to “kill himself.”
@@ashleymcclarren3951Suicidal people r very dangerous as they can change their minds & hurt others. So, someone suicidal is at risk for being Homicidal & Someone Homicidal is at risk for suicide.
Defense Atty is unbelievably immature.
She's so unprofessional. You don't talk over the judge. This case is unbelievable how much leeway this defense atty gets
This judge is awful!!!!!!!
She was voted in.
In 2010, this judge was an incumbent and only received 21% of the vote.
VOTING MATTERS!
All elections: local, state and federal!!!
@@acovenofmany333damn! God, she sucks.
Someone needs to come in and put the defense attorney in her place. She's so unprofessional.
She's doing her job because the prosecution are not being straight about the exhibits
@@pams4401 they don’t understand the rules of evidence and how evidentiary motions work, and if it was not put into evidence, they cannot sneak it in and that’s what people don’t understand. She’s just doing her job like you said.
What? Defense is putting the DA in their place with how they are sneaking in evidence and not following discovery rules and then day of trial pulling info not originally given.
@@angyQ6379 heaven forbid, the defense call The stayed out on their shady, freaking tactics, trying to get evidence in
Now this is interesting, the "I'm So Overwhelmed/Whiny Attorney'' Defense Strategy
it's interesting but also horrible. I want justice, not drama and distractions. facts, not emotions.
Why is the Judge constantly telling her defence what to say, she might as well swop places and do her job.
True. At one point she actually prompted the defense attorney by asking her, “Did you want to object?”. Unbelievable.
Is the judge the defense attorney's mommy ?
Why don’t they do side bars? This defense lawyer is horrible. She is not conducting her self properly.
He said she didn't talk about her son but then says all the stuff she said about him
The defense was that kid that cried over EVERYTHING, EVERYDAY at EVERYONE. Then cries that nobody will play with her.
He tries to act like he doesn't know her that well but she messages him that she's having a meeting at school??????
I’ve worked as a paralegal for a criminal defense law firm for over 30 years and I’ve worked probably 80+ criminal trials from felony theft to murder…. And in my opinion she is NOT effective as a Def Atty - she is most likely turning the jury off by her aggressive manner but even more it’s her constant interrupting in a very whiny and tantrum type manner of not only the DA’s but the Judge ( which juries really don’t like) and her cutting off the witnesses as they are still trying to answer her question…. Juries usually like witnesses especially State witnesses who come across as nice people who are being honest …. Defense attorneys absolutely play roles depending on who the Defendant is ( male or female, ) and certainly the crimes they are charged with, how aggressive the Prosectors are ( if the DA is very aggressive like a Juan Martinez type the defense plays the gentle role )…. But this Def atty is playing the over worked but constantly working hard def atty without the resources afforded the State … her constant complaints of “ I need to see the whole exhibit !! “ or “ They didn’t give me this exhibit!” … only works once or twice… as the State keeps saying she’s had all the exhibits for over 2 years and she keeps saying in front of the jury that she has so much to review, so much evidence given to her differently … 30 boxes etc ..she should absolutely know this case inside out and all the evidence- there’s a 99% chance this case is the only work she’s focused on the last year at least - ( many trial watchers will know a case inside out from just watching the trial twice…. It’s not that hard) there’s no way she doesn’t have paralegals and secretaries, and assistants …. And they probably hired temp staff for the last 3 months as trial prep really got going - In general juries tend to like Female attorneys particularly when they are presenting themselves to be a small independent defense firm with one or two lawyers … but juries don’t like to feel like they are being played - and this lady is really close to appearing like her tantrums and disrespect are just bad over-acting and IF it’s an act she needs to tone it down … and if it isn’t an act she is becoming seriously unlikeable very very quickly - it is really at the point where her behavior of loudly and rudely interrupting and arguing like a moody angry teenager is going to start really pissing off the Jury which will 100% affect how the jury looks at Jennifer Crumbley - right or wrong it’s just human and if she were a good Defense attorney she would actually be aware of all these things I’ve said and she would have the maturity and common sense and training to control her approach in the courtroom ….
the Judge and the attorneys having this discussion in front of the jury, making the State look bad is incredibly unprofessional…. And the Judge is absolutely coming across as siding with the whiny argumentative Def atty way too often….
12:58 her constant loud complaining in front of the jury is so incredibly unprofessional - I have never seen a Judge allow any of this behavior be seen by the jury repeatedly and that’s because it can make the Judge look like she isn’t in control of her courtroom … and the more she keeps complaining the State exhibits are a “ surprise” the less and less prepared for this trial she appears - she should KNOW this ….. but it seems she may be unable to control herself in her desperation to argue her case…. She needs to quit while she’s ahead - when the Judge agrees she can do something she needs to say Thank you and shut up but instead she keeps on and in trying to throw the State under the bus… Juries don’t have legal educations but they have a million different educations and jobs and lifestyles - but the one thing they ALL have in common is not wanting their time or their presence disrespected … and the Judge’s lack of trying to control little miss whiny pants and all the fighting is probably really annoying them now ….
But the last thing I’ll say is that in 30 years of being in courtrooms for the Defense - just because someone has a law degree really doesn’t mean they are smart or good at their job!! I think we are seeing a perfect example here…
I love your comment, thanks!
@@deborah3912thank YOU!
Loved ur cimment also but u forgot the poor court reporter having to take this all down also. Im still blown away that fireman chose Ethans mom to have an affair with. I cant visualise it. Also what he must feel after all of this. Ethan was begging for attention....
I think the prosecutor is just as whiny
Where's Judge Judy?! This case desperately needs her!!!!
This is not her “friend”. This was her LOVER. He should’ve believed Jennifer, the first time she showed him who she was when she said Ethan is done it’s time to focus on ourselves.” And now she’s doing the exact same thing, throwing him under the bus, exposing everything they did around our town. How’s this man supposed to go back home and live in peace. What a clusterF and an embarrassment for our county!
This defense attorney is trying to turn this into a circus. Not impressing anyone.
The judge demonstrates that she has a very high tolerance for bratty children, i.e.; the defense "attorney".
The jury should have been excused 10mins before her temper tantrums
She was found guilty and will most likely receive a long prison sentence. So will her husband.
How unprofessional of the defense to speak about all of that in open court when it should have been done during a sidebar. That woman’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
How unprofessional DA for bot following proper rules of procedure and conduct and slipping in evidence not given in discovery. Defense is doing her job representing a client.
@@angyQ6379agreed!
The defense is horrible. She has most likely had all the files and should have read everything. If the jury is as annoyed with her as people watching are, it doesn’t bode well for her client.
Those exhibits may be in this defense attorney's colleague stack of papers -from when they were representing both Jennifer and James at once. That's one of the reasons you dont get two attorneys from the same law firm to defend two defendants fighting the same case, causes all kind of conflict.
Of course they didn't listen.
Maybe they were offered a reduced fee if lawfirm rep both Crumbleys.
Respectfull law firms wouldn't do that
The jury deserves an award! Putting up with this courtroom drama😮
Oh my!!! Wow!!!
If you look up the term “ incompetent defense attorney “ or “what NOT to do if you’re a defense attorney”, you will see a picture of Crumbley’s defense attorney.
Witness sure got uncomfortable fast when Prosecution asked about deleting messages before both sides squabble.
If there is a conviction conviction the judge and this inexperienced defense attorney's interaction seems like a good call to appeal.
Perhaps this is exactly why she was chosen. 😢
Yeah the defense attorney is a mess and the judge is a little indecisive.
Inexperienced? She's been an attorney for 20 years with her own practice. This is an act. I guess she thinks being a spoiled brat will win over the jury...
She’s been an attorney for 20 years…
It's interesting to watch the witnesses expression during these arguments - and he's completely avoiding the defendant. He will not look over at her.
He probably would like to go through the floor and just disappear at this point.
@@blackmoom i'm thinking the fire fighter was told this affair (promised) the affair wasn't going to come up. Did anyone hear if he's divorced now due to this from the beginning. If not, he's so screwed
@@ronhaywood6813 He was married at the time of the affair, but now (?)
He can’t deal with the fact he threw his marriage & reputation away for a piece of kitty cat that looks like…that. Yikes! And ,a loser/bad parent/liar/hag who was cheating on him too.
@@ronhaywood6813he has a wedding ring on 😳
It seems like the lawyer for the defendant wasn't truthful and honest with her attorney this is where it goes bad when your attorney's trying to stick up for you you should be honest with your attorney and tell your attorney that way she knows what she's in for
Wow! This definitely is ineffectiveness of council. What an absolute shitshow.
The unprofessional actions of the DA should be dealt with by the Judge. She makes the Judge look bad too.
What a joke this defense attorney is! My 9 year old could do better!
Nice joke!
My dead doggie could do better. The judge and defence attorney are hacks.
UNBELIEVABLY UNPROFESSIONAL
Yeah definitely. The prosecution are trying to blindside the defence.
Totally - the DA is unprofessional
I now believe EC did this to get back at his parents… why else would he say “I’m shooting up the school because my parents won’t listen to me and get me help”. He wants everyone to know how terrible they were
Screw EC. He is one sick loser who wouldn't take his meds and refused to accept the help offered, mandated. He did it to get attention and focus. He is responsible for what he did. Yeah, kind of oblivious parents, but this trial sets a dangerous precedent.
This is the worst defense attorney that I've ever seen.
I thought he testified that she never talked about her son to him? Now all of a sudden she is talking to him a lot about him?
Judge & defense lawyer having some kind of relationship on the side??? How else to explain this nonsense? It’s painful/ hysterical to watch these women
Why is this being carried out in front of the jury
This defense attorney is the worst and most annoying. I'm not a fan of the judge either. Apparently they've never watched Law & Order!
OMG this judge needs to
get this shite tightened UP!
It’s been reported that the
Defense atty is an experienced
lawyer- WOW…she’s a mess,
and the judge is treating her
with way too much leniency
and coddling. I wonder if the
Judge has a bratty teenager
at home?
I believe Jennifer got the lawyer she deserves
The judge is clueless
The judge makes herself look so inept and lacking in intelligence with her mousey meek responses.
"Friend"
She’s a Karen and not helping her client at all!
I do think this is the worse judge ive ever seen
Defense attorney is such a cry baby. My goodness, she's AWFUL. Her behavior might help Jennifer get a retrial if she's found guilty. Jennifer deserves some prison time tho, so I hope she doesn't get a retrial. Jennifer didn't seem to give one shitola about anyone but herself.
You clearly have no idea causes for a retrial.
If the judge has time to read all the documents then defense Attorney does also
@@angyQ6379 she could appeal based on ineffective counsel
Is this the defense attorney's first time in a court room? She certainly acts like it is.
I think the prosecutor is just as whiny.
“This is 77 minus 8 pages”…😂😂😂 really! That educated attorney can not quickly figure out that it’s 69 pages for her to review? What a s#itshow! That Defense Attorney is a cry baby piece of work 🤡 Apparently she did not prep for this trial.
Shouldn’t the school have Better policy ? As the professionals to remove a child that even mentions violence?
They do…. But the school was under the impression that the parents weren’t available to be with their son. So to send him home alone with what they knew at the time? I understand. My daughter had some mental health issues and I was called to the school last year and asked to pick her up for a mental evaluation and to be cleared to go back to school. There’s a paper you have to get signed to go back to school. It was a really hard transition back to full time in person for her and many kids. They gave me the list of places I could take her. We were at the emergency room until almost midnight. The hospital wouldn’t let us leave until my daughter’s therapist confirm with the head Dr. at the time he believed she was safe. If I left without their consent they would call CPS. That’s the protocol. The school followed almost every protocol except checking the bag.
The parents put the administrators in a horrible spot by not taking him no matter what the school said! So when the parents bailed on Ethan again, the school was under the impression they were giving him support by keeping him. ESP when all Ethan felt was alone and like nobody cared. -sorry for the novel…
The school, (teachers, students) raised several concerns about EC, I don't think the school took it very seriously. Sent him home? Yeah, that's effective.
This trial makes me afraid for my kids : For whom I devote every resource I have to their well-being 7:02 on a daily basis, being hurt by a peer who’s parents give Zero F’s about being an effective Role Model. I work really hard to give them a good life . And, NOW I have to worry about them being taken out by someone neglected & enabled by their parents. Like WTF? If parents aren’t gonna hold up their part of the social contract , they shud be penalized by prison. Where was CPS? I’d like to know how many if any previous reports to CPS.
CPS is so overstrained and afraid of being sued that they are virtually useless at this point.
Defence attorney just stated her incompetence, she is working hard for a mistrial.
I hope Jennifer is found Guilty.
I don’t care about the defense attorney, but the judge lost control of her court. Lol
This prosecution attorney has a degree in Mansplaining and he's barely able to contain his impatience even with the judge. He's not doing himself any favours.
Agreed! He's terrible.
What a shyte show!! The judge allowing this defense attorney to speak in this manner and crossing her arms like an eight year old child is beyond disgraceful! How on earth did this attorney make it this far without being disbarred? This whole trial is going to be a waste of taxpayers money; the defense AND the judge are opening the door for a retrial!!
Hope he's not married 😮
Ew. Just listening to the defense is like finger nails on a chalkboard. Not professional at all.
What is wrong with this judge letting the defence attorney speak over her like that??!!
Oh my God why is this judge is letting defense attorney run the show? Attorney is so immature and unprofessional this must be her first case. But I’ve never seen arguments like this in front of a jury. The judge has no control and Many times acts like she doesn’t know what to do. This is a circus.
Defense lawyer puts all her major into her clothes! She is a lousy attorney!!!!
Horrible judge. Rule and don’t give commentary. Discussions at bench ONLY!
Why did he delete those text messages? Trying to hide something sir. Did you not want to be involved sir?
That was Jennifer's lover.
She too fat now
I guess they are all Dancing around that they were lovers but the Jury will GET it
I think the firefighter is married. He's probably headed to divorce court
It was??!
This defense attorney is insufferable. Her whiney voice is beyond bearable.
This judge is the worse no control
Is this a case where the judge was never a lawyer and never practiced law?
The judge is unprofessional explaining this whining to jury never seen anything like it
Judge needs to exercise a little more control , The objection seem to go too long. Make a ruling and move on..
I’m so disturbed by today’s testimony…this guy and Jennifer would meet random strangers in hotels…so weird! Who does that?
She doesn’t seem the type to do something like that…disturbing and disgusting.
and HE IS A FIREFIGHTER VERY DISTURBING IM NOT DOWN
They WERE SWINGERS!! AND SHE ... JENNIFER PERFORMED And DID THIS ON COMPANY TIMLINE
How UTTERLY DISGUSTING! DESPICABLE !!!!!
This behavior of the defense attorney is an embarrassment - how is this allowed? She is like a spoiled brat; with her arms crossed, whining, complaining. They need to get their crap together before presenting evidence to the court. This is ridiculous.
Please shut that defense lawyer up !!!!