Was a toy for years (early 2000s), until running into a graffiti thrower in the streets who gave me a good bit of advice. Grab a blue tarp put it up on the back of your apartment or garage and practice every night putting up a piece in a 'safe space'. Without looking over your shoulder, just focus on your work. Do the 'same' ish piece over and over...so that you get better with your arcs, your spacing, your blocking...then start timing yourself. Get faster. As you get faster, you'll find that your lines will start to sharpen. When you can blast that thing up in less than 5 minutes...then hit the streets. Don't start out by rolling around the jungle with your training wheels on. Be safe...and if you can go in pairs. One lookout and then one artist...then switch. Stay safe out there.
I've tried like 15 variations of this. Tarps on the fence (screws w/huge washers all over it to hold it flat with no wrinkles) plywood, fold-up table flipped on its side, refrigerator boxes opened up, u name it. I think plywood was the best, and the flipped up table was the easiest. Great bit of advice there, bud.
I don't know dude you learn graffiti by doing It, if you go out to the street with writing skills but have absolutely no idea how the streets work, you're kinda scuffed.. don't take graff like it's olympics, have fun go write on some shit, learn to do pieces at home and then take them out to the streets, but don't limit yourself to staying home until you can do a piece just cuz some dude said to do It in a comment section, graffiti is free.
@It's me but who am I? it's actually quite expensive, unless ur using rusto or maybe rackin your paint, which is pretty damn hard these days, unless your down with smash n grabs.
Unless you have superb air-con or multiple rooms/excessive space in order to not let fumes affect your health: good tip. But, in most of the flats/appartments/homes i know (central europe), it's terrible advice for your health. You'd better be off setting up a wall in your front-/backyard ir garage, maybe one you can store in a garage/cellar if possible. I agree with the 'practice makes perfect' part tho and otherwise garages work fine.
Hey bro - at ANY level, you are a criminal and a vandal if you are defacing other people's property. It's a childish thing to do. It's not art. It's stupid and drags down a community. How about we come over to yuor house and spray scribbles all over it?
I was a toy skill level wise for years, (and I’m not sure I ever fully outgrew it). I’m definitely not as much of a toy anymore, but still. Either way, I never got called a toy because I had a rule never to cap anyone. That got me a long way, and now I get some respect and write with a crew in my area. Respect is everything
Yo brother grim I started watching ur videos like a fucking decade ago it’s crazy to see ur still going hard all these years later honestly one of the most real graff channels to this day
I generally don't like the word toy. It's usually a sloppy dis. I was taught If someone puts 'toy' on your work, you go over it harder, cover it, repair it OR, accept the title cause they're right. 😂
Ive been in the graffiti game for like 15+ years but I don't like sketching that much and I have shaky hands so my style is meh so id consider myself a semi toy but I dont really care to develop my style, I just like to paint
im still kinda a total toy atm, but overall ppl Ive met have been really supportive, showing me the ropes and stuff and being really helpful its super motivating and helps me progress
I am stuck with the stupid bubble letters! I can’t find a way to change my style! It’s like the bubble letters that you would make in second grade. Check my community tab and I have some photos I posted just to kinda show. How do I fix that issue
Video suggestion.. tips on not being so heavy handed. Also proper drawing techniques. Like how you hold your pencil and wrist and arm movements. I’ve been blackbookin a lot more lately but I’ve always struggled with being heavy handed luckily I don’t have that problem with spray paint.
Yes, I would buy those texts, and I would find them valuable. “Toy” is such a relative judgement to make. I was trained to “Respect the hands” which got up before me, regardless of my personal opinion about the work. Sloppy work in a high traffic spot, is different than sloppy work in a chill spot. If you really feel strongly about it, put up a piece near theirs, (don’t cap it) and let the quality of work, speak for itself.
i am a toy, i've been doing graffiti for a couple of months, but im learning and improving in order to be able to go out on the streets and gain respect update: yesterday i sat for like an hour, designing and practicing a throwie, and today i went out with my friend who has a spray paint and did some tags and throwies 🔥🔥🔥
@@casualdiscussionenjoyer3303 i am careful, i only paint on abandoned stuff that is already painted and we always have our back, looking for people and staying safe, you don't knkw what karen might show up and record you/call the cops
@@cruzcervantes1848 who tf cares i literally did graffitti in places everyone does it/ws already full and respected others and didn't do it over someone also i kinda realized graffitti is not really ethical so i won't do big graffitis but i'm still gonna do small tags
Beef always works against you. I would ignore it or change handles rather than waste my time. For every battle I won there is a mob of clowns who still hate me decades later. Not worth it at all. 👎
@@shillionaire I hear ya, but every time you paint you risk your freedom. Id rather keep putting my name up instead of putting up some other name that isn't really me for a month or 2 until things cool. But, I've ended a lot of dumb beef by painting a nice pizza over their diss and writing a nice message to them hahaha
Never any shame in being new, everyone was at some point. There is shame in claiming you are more knowledgeable than you are and for gatekeeping new artists out if the hobby
So I'm literally an old man. @33 I finally have forced myself to get better @ writing. I've always had love for it. I grew up just watching trains go by wishing I could be that good. Now I'm actually trying to put the effort in skillwise and I'm falling embarrassingly short. I know keep it simple And practice, but if maybe I knew other mobbers or Had an Idea of how to get pointers and history knowledge, I'd get better.
If you'd like, reach out on Instagram and let me know its you (say it's user from YT or something along these lines) and I can help get you started. Just shoot over some of what you've done so far and we can have a chat
Bro, you are a criminal and a vandal. Let that sink in. You are DEFACING other people's property that THEY paid for and built. How about I come over and spray paint scribbles on your house? Grow up dude
I’m a toy only been doing graffiti for around 2 months and I’ve seen myself progress some from just practicing every day and there’s nothing wrong with using inspiration off the internet but you gotta make it your own
although I am improving significantly, I still can't tell whether or not I'm still toy. This video helped me a lot with digging out my mistakes and figuring out how to step up in the right direction. im from australia btw
Back in the day, toys were the people that trashed tags with lesser quality or didn't cover fully... it wasn't about skill levels because we took the younglings in and taught them instead of talking down.
I think the term “Toy” can be presented to people who are disrespecting others art but if its just bad hand writing i think it can ba consider as a start for people
Thanks for the epic vids and knowledge! 🎉 I was wondering if you could please help me out with background features? I can't find any information online. And was wondering if you already have a vid on it? :)
as long as it's ur own name and not the someone else's u can have as many styles for as many names u want. some writers even have train names, which they only use for trains.
can you do a segment on 'giving respects' to bigger artsist in one's local area? how to do it in a piece? shoutouts etc.. epsicalliy if its a large wall and legends are already present. I have dudes in my area like SDK / BIG MILES / HOSER / SIZES
I don't think toy is such a bad thing, we all start there, changing the word doesn't make it better for them, it doesn't change it for them. That's just my opinion though
@@treykearns4867 it certainly can be used that way but let's change the artform and role play a bit. If we're at a fine art gallery and I say " whoever painted this portrait is a beginner ", then suddenly beginner is no different than the word toy. Both can be used to insult or to properly categorize. Really a matter of intent and context
@The Artist Block what r your thoughts on not getting up anywhere near home? I live at da beach so every alley has grilled dumpsters etc that r rite out my door just waiting. .
Iim still a toy skill level wise i cant really do graffiti really i live in a small town where most arrests are like vandalism and there are really only no real spots so ive only practiced my graffiti in games and sketching in a book
How about spots that have no space left but the same person has his name up in multiple areas of that spot?? Is it disrespectful to choose one of his to go over? I did and it pissed him off. He had 6 pieces up in one spot. I wrote no diss next to my piece.
@@jimmythedon69 all very important questions. @jbohlz you normally better off just not going over someone. Even in a place like NYC there's free walls to hit but if you absolutely need to go over something then the questions he asked should be questions you ask yourself
Man the city i live in there is no real graffiti scene, you see old pieces under bridges, but thats it, these 2 bridges it sucks, wish we had a crew here.
As far as I understand it "toy" used to mean someone who was intentionally being arrogant or disrespectful but then it gradually became a blank term to mean someone who was a "noob" or ignorant . I find modern word evolution fascinating like how "Jerk" and "A-hole" used to mean someone who was stupid or unintelligent but within 20 years changed to mean someone was mean or abrasive.
@@drxalde3222 I can try to invite some of these people for an interview and ask exactly that. I reached out to a few people already so I'll extend a few more invites out and see
@@ardentacious4392 a stage in progression where you think you are better than you actually are. It’s a personal bias you have that stunts your growth. Basically it’s best to always consider yourself toy that way you keep on progressing.
In all honesty, none, they are all garbage and better fictional stories than lord of the rings. If you know the fundamentals of art, then as you read "how to do graffiti books" you will instantly see these books have zero understanding of any art fundamentals and as a result zero understanding of the science for graffiti. In short, you're better off picking up a general art book that focuses on arts basics. In graffiti books they instantly go into teaching style with little to no fundamental knowledge taught first. If they just so happen to teach any fundamentals, they teach it incorrectly ( if you already know general art fundamentals then reading this stuff will give you a good laugh). If you're going to teach students about graffiti, I'd go one of two ways, either approach it from a "fun first" angle where you let them know that hey this is a fun art form and we're just going to play around with letters. This way there is no burden or expectation of fundamentals and fundamental knowledge but rather an exploration of another artform. Or approach number 2, would be to teach it by using the already established academic information of art unrealated to graffiti. So essentially a basic drawing class focusing on the importance of line, shape, form, value, space , color, texture, then applying that to print letters with zero style as to learn and study how the basics function. Information on graffitis fundamental is a minefield of bad information as graffiti artists themselves either didn't think of graffiti as an art therefor never studied, practiced or established fundamentals, or graffiti artists didn't think graffiti had fundamentals so once again they didn't study, practice or establish their fundamental or basic art information. This outlook only changed less than a decade ago. For this reason the standard for graffiti's information is literally at an elementary art level. The only good graffiti information would only come from fine artists that decided to do graffiti (like daim and few others), or graffiti artists who decided to focus on fine art like Greg Simpkins
@@Theartistblock excellent. We covered the fundamentals before and will be covering them during. I figured we were on the right track but I wanted your perspective. Thank you. I'll have to share some throwies and tags with you when they finish. Cheers.
So man let's talk. I hate the internet when it comes to Graff. All the way. It changed the landscape for the worse. I started writing in 98ish. My og is very old school. I was taught you suck until further notice. Point blank. My og told me when I didn't suck. No one else. But as for internet Graff you are the only person I have found talk about the basic fundamentals that is not super toy. Thank you. I am not for learning Graff this way. It is hands on. But if you are going to learn for TH-cam come here. Thanks for properly spreading the message. InfiniteStyleFroce.
I have to agree. Sure I make these videos and I try to find the positive in the internet and graffiti together but over all I don't like it. Watered everything down and teaching online while I love it, I enjoy mentoring in person more. Like you said, hands on. The culture of it all is dead now too because the online space but we gotta make the best with what we have. Been writing one year less, since 99, and back then for you and I, things were so much different and more fun in my opinion.
@The Artist Block more fun for sure. I had to take caps off any aerosol I could find and test them. Then hold my can upside down to spray aerosol to lower the pressure in my rusto cans. And I had to bump in to someone to meet them. It was very much an adventure every time I went out. I had to search for the knowledge. Not just look it up. But I am just older and grumpy. I don't care in which space people find this art. Here there everywhere. But it has made it less of a culture and more of an art. I am a lifestyleist. Graff is a big part of how I learned to define myself. Blood sweat and tears. I was taught valuable life lessons getting caught up a getting over. And to me that is where I learned what my name and its expression meant. Hard fought hard learned. My style is simple and smooth. Just like my get over. Simple and smooth. For me they are one and the same. The internet has take a lot of that away. Your name is expressionless because it meaning is not hard fought. My techniques are also unorthodox because they are mine. Not the home from YT,Tiktok or insta. Further giving it deapth and meaning. Sorry morning rant from an old head still catching old tags. People you do you. And I will do me. This for me was before the internet and will be after. IntellectStaysFree.
Everyone is a toy when they start the problem is writers from da 80's da majority call themselves legends just because they were up a lot that shit don't make u a legend especially if everything u did bck in da days was wack ....
Soon you will be just crossed out. It happens. I seen one crossed with a toy stamp and said you have been doing the same letters for 8 years. Do with that as you will.
@@josephinefox9347 lol iv seen roughly 5 grims in person, on in NY Tthats really good. There are no legends named grim so the name is fair game. Best of luck to all of them
So am a toy and the closes real city is to far for me to go so the only other artist in my town do slaps in school just to see who can have the most up at the end of a day.
Don't sweat it man, being toy isn't a bad thing. Enjoy it, embrace it and don't rush trying to get out of the toy phase. You'll be a toy for a few years as far as skill and that's OK. If anything, try to show respect and learn the ropes so that you're not toy in that regard. You can do that in a fraction of the time.
All of your issues are happening because you're adding style and you haven't yet learned the basics. No amature in any artform is capable of style because style is the product of understanding the basics. Also, flow happens automatically If your other fundamentals are done properly. This means the only way to mess up flow is if you've messed up the other fundamentals (in your case by adding style). Feel free to reach on on Instagram and tell me it's you so I can spot you in the DM. I'd love to give you some help
Cope used to be best friends with my mentor and their crew. Family friends even. I got to see first hand the things he did. Still respect his work but, only his work
Hi The Artist Block i started graffiti last month i changed my tag around 5-6-7 times and now my tag is *Sloed* i made a new throw up last week i want to know hoe can i get better at throwies i did what you said about the muscle memory but i still dont get have a good day and goodbye
You need patience friend. 6 months is nowhere near enough time to learn throwies on your own (even with vids). It takes years to get a good throwie. In addition you keep changing your name so you're not practicing consistently with a name to learn how it works, this is slowing your learning not to mention I can just about guarantee you likely aren't studying your elements of art and likely adding too much style. All of this works against you. Be patient you're only a few months in
@@Theartistblockim doing throw ups for 7months + they are not terrible but whenever i try a tag it comes out terribly absolutely crap beacuse my handstyle sucks never worked on it and ita really hard to get the findamentals on point
There is ZERO skill to graffiti. Most 10 year olds can do what you do, but they don't because their parents taught them to respect other people's property. You are nothing but a vandal.
He used to be my mentors partner and best friend. I didn't call him toy at all in this video. The thumbnail is more of a good example of how to do graffiti
@@Theartistblock I was so pissed to know that someone in another city is using core before me BUT he's using two name so like.decide.and he didn't break a leg for his name like I did roof jumping
@@lurky5913 Some friendly advice, get used to thousands of people having your name and dont get upset by it . Number one its childish to get upset by that especially if they're far, but more importantly, the only names off limits are legends names. this means your name is fair game for EVERYONE to use. if you or anyone for that matter wants an exclusive name, then become a legend. Core is an extremely common name as is Grim. I've met and hear of at least 100 other Grims and some where in my same town. im not a legend, my name is fair game. Only people who get upset over someone having their names are toys and the immature, thats it. Its ok to be toy early on and it's ok to be immature as a kid but eventually you have to get past both.
How tf can there be respect if you're painting people's stuff without their permission? Especially when it's the same crappy jumble of words that have zero meaning to 99% of people
Also to be honest, cope's throw is technically speaking pretty good, but that's like literally the only thing he does, and he's a toy for many reasons, just not the t-up lol
Someone is going around scratching out people's throwies and tags but not putting up anything in my area. I hope they don't get caught cuz that's some b.llsh.t
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Was a toy for years (early 2000s), until running into a graffiti thrower in the streets who gave me a good bit of advice. Grab a blue tarp put it up on the back of your apartment or garage and practice every night putting up a piece in a 'safe space'. Without looking over your shoulder, just focus on your work. Do the 'same' ish piece over and over...so that you get better with your arcs, your spacing, your blocking...then start timing yourself. Get faster. As you get faster, you'll find that your lines will start to sharpen. When you can blast that thing up in less than 5 minutes...then hit the streets. Don't start out by rolling around the jungle with your training wheels on. Be safe...and if you can go in pairs. One lookout and then one artist...then switch. Stay safe out there.
Good tip but I'm still gonna put the buff man to work
I've tried like 15 variations of this. Tarps on the fence (screws w/huge washers all over it to hold it flat with no wrinkles) plywood, fold-up table flipped on its side, refrigerator boxes opened up, u name it. I think plywood was the best, and the flipped up table was the easiest. Great bit of advice there, bud.
I don't know dude you learn graffiti by doing It, if you go out to the street with writing skills but have absolutely no idea how the streets work, you're kinda scuffed.. don't take graff like it's olympics, have fun go write on some shit, learn to do pieces at home and then take them out to the streets, but don't limit yourself to staying home until you can do a piece just cuz some dude said to do It in a comment section, graffiti is free.
@It's me but who am I? it's actually quite expensive, unless ur using rusto or maybe rackin your paint, which is pretty damn hard these days, unless your down with smash n grabs.
Unless you have superb air-con or multiple rooms/excessive space in order to not let fumes affect your health: good tip. But, in most of the flats/appartments/homes i know (central europe), it's terrible advice for your health. You'd better be off setting up a wall in your front-/backyard ir garage, maybe one you can store in a garage/cellar if possible. I agree with the 'practice makes perfect' part tho and otherwise garages work fine.
Can't become a legend without being a toy first.
Hey bro - at ANY level, you are a criminal and a vandal if you are defacing other people's property. It's a childish thing to do. It's not art. It's stupid and drags down a community. How about we come over to yuor house and spray scribbles all over it?
I was a toy skill level wise for years, (and I’m not sure I ever fully outgrew it). I’m definitely not as much of a toy anymore, but still. Either way, I never got called a toy because I had a rule never to cap anyone. That got me a long way, and now I get some respect and write with a crew in my area. Respect is everything
Yo brother grim I started watching ur videos like a fucking decade ago it’s crazy to see ur still going hard all these years later honestly one of the most real graff channels to this day
I generally don't like the word toy. It's usually a sloppy dis. I was taught If someone puts 'toy' on your work, you go over it harder, cover it, repair it OR, accept the title cause they're right. 😂
Ive been in the graffiti game for like 15+ years but I don't like sketching that much and I have shaky hands so my style is meh so id consider myself a semi toy but I dont really care to develop my style, I just like to paint
I also don't like crazy wildstyle graffiti with perfect lines, I like fast dusty block letters more
im still kinda a total toy atm, but overall ppl Ive met have been really supportive, showing me the ropes and stuff and being really helpful its super motivating and helps me progress
I am stuck with the stupid bubble letters! I can’t find a way to change my style! It’s like the bubble letters that you would make in second grade. Check my community tab and I have some photos I posted just to kinda show. How do I fix that issue
Video suggestion.. tips on not being so heavy handed. Also proper drawing techniques. Like how you hold your pencil and wrist and arm movements. I’ve been blackbookin a lot more lately but I’ve always struggled with being heavy handed luckily I don’t have that problem with spray paint.
Heavy handed with your spray can - of gee, you're an ARTIST? NOT!!! You are a vandal!
i just started graffiti today learning as much as possible and ive already been called a toy like three times.
How has your journey been?
@@bagellord9337 i have stopped it wasnt really my thing tbh.
@@sakowastaken that's alright. You found what doesn't work for ya, on to other things
Yes, I would buy those texts, and I would find them valuable.
“Toy” is such a relative judgement to make. I was trained to “Respect the hands” which got up before me, regardless of my personal opinion about the work. Sloppy work in a high traffic spot, is different than sloppy work in a chill spot.
If you really feel strongly about it, put up a piece near theirs, (don’t cap it) and let the quality of work, speak for itself.
Graffiti is a lifestyle and a coulture is how we are brought up since we were kids
i am a toy, i've been doing graffiti for a couple of months, but im learning and improving in order to be able to go out on the streets and gain respect
update: yesterday i sat for like an hour, designing and practicing a throwie, and today i went out with my friend who has a spray paint and did some tags and throwies 🔥🔥🔥
keep that mindset
Be careful out there homie big ups
@@casualdiscussionenjoyer3303 i am careful, i only paint on abandoned stuff that is already painted and we always have our back, looking for people and staying safe, you don't knkw what karen might show up and record you/call the cops
How to incriminate yourself 101
@@cruzcervantes1848 who tf cares i literally did graffitti in places everyone does it/ws already full and respected others and didn't do it over someone also i kinda realized graffitti is not really ethical so i won't do big graffitis but i'm still gonna do small tags
look at it the same way as skateboarding. no one really cares how good you are, so long as youre respectful, chill, and just all around friendly.
Love your vids man, keep it up lots of love!
Beef always works against you. I would ignore it or change handles rather than waste my time. For every battle I won there is a mob of clowns who still hate me decades later. Not worth it at all. 👎
You dropped this 👑
Change your handle over some beef? Nahhhhh. But ignore the beef for sure. Or go over their diss with something funny
@@novinnovations4026 that's a good point. I sort of meant temporarily change handles to let it die. But yeah good point.
@@shillionaire I hear ya, but every time you paint you risk your freedom. Id rather keep putting my name up instead of putting up some other name that isn't really me for a month or 2 until things cool. But, I've ended a lot of dumb beef by painting a nice pizza over their diss and writing a nice message to them hahaha
@@novinnovations4026 lol good stuff!
Never any shame in being new, everyone was at some point. There is shame in claiming you are more knowledgeable than you are and for gatekeeping new artists out if the hobby
I'm just learning about this now and being called a Toy sounds so fucking funny.
So I'm literally an old man. @33 I finally have forced myself to get better @ writing. I've always had love for it. I grew up just watching trains go by wishing I could be that good. Now I'm actually trying to put the effort in skillwise and I'm falling embarrassingly short. I know keep it simple And practice, but if maybe I knew other mobbers or Had an Idea of how to get pointers and history knowledge, I'd get better.
If you'd like, reach out on Instagram and let me know its you (say it's user from YT or something along these lines) and I can help get you started. Just shoot over some of what you've done so far and we can have a chat
Bro, you are a criminal and a vandal. Let that sink in. You are DEFACING other people's property that THEY paid for and built. How about I come over and spray paint scribbles on your house? Grow up dude
The level of kindness right here is incredible.
I’m a toy only been doing graffiti for around 2 months and I’ve seen myself progress some from just practicing every day and there’s nothing wrong with using inspiration off the internet but you gotta make it your own
I feel like a lot of people have to see this one👊🔥
although I am improving significantly, I still can't tell whether or not I'm still toy. This video helped me a lot with digging out my mistakes and figuring out how to step up in the right direction.
im from australia btw
Back in the day, toys were the people that trashed tags with lesser quality or didn't cover fully... it wasn't about skill levels because we took the younglings in and taught them instead of talking down.
Only dvds I got left in my collection are WaR & 5aM👌
I think the term “Toy” can be presented to people who are disrespecting others art but if its just bad hand writing i think it can ba consider as a start for people
I've been a toy for 15 years.
Thanks for the epic vids and knowledge! 🎉 I was wondering if you could please help me out with background features? I can't find any information online. And was wondering if you already have a vid on it? :)
Bro I’m like addicted to ur intro
is it okay to have one name but multiple handstyles of it?
as long as it's ur own name and not the someone else's u can have as many styles for as many names u want. some writers even have train names, which they only use for trains.
can you do a segment on 'giving respects' to bigger artsist in one's local area? how to do it in a piece? shoutouts etc..
epsicalliy if its a large wall and legends are already present.
I have dudes in my area like SDK / BIG MILES / HOSER / SIZES
💀💀💀💀
You can give respect by staying off their wall. Last thing you want to do is side bust an established writer.
@@NittyGritty420 but the wall is massive and they arent the only ones on it? Its a chill spot with open spaces
@@georgen26Nevermind then if everyone paints there then it’s cool. I thought you were talking about jockin their spot.
Well you find the dude and say "hey your work is fire" how the fuck are you gonna go Up to a wall and write "hey i like your style" wtf?
Has nothing to do with toys, but what's your opinion on moses and taps?
Top tip-
Don't be called "Sano"
Unless you are sano
It's almost become trendy to hate on the name
@@Theartistblock when every tiktok toy is called "Sano", it's kind of expected
what has cope done in the past??
Can I put it out in the ether that maybe, just maybe, there should be a difference between a beginner and a toy?
I don't think toy is such a bad thing, we all start there, changing the word doesn't make it better for them, it doesn't change it for them. That's just my opinion though
@@Theartistblock I thought it was a derogatory term? Perhaps it depends on the context. .
@@treykearns4867 it certainly can be used that way but let's change the artform and role play a bit. If we're at a fine art gallery and I say " whoever painted this portrait is a beginner ", then suddenly beginner is no different than the word toy. Both can be used to insult or to properly categorize. Really a matter of intent and context
@The Artist Block that makes sense. Well put. Thnx. Been practicing my throwy all month in da backyard, bout to go out 2night and get er done.
@The Artist Block what r your thoughts on not getting up anywhere near home? I live at da beach so every alley has grilled dumpsters etc that r rite out my door just waiting. .
Iim still a toy skill level wise i cant really do graffiti really i live in a small town where most arrests are like vandalism and there are really only no real spots so ive only practiced my graffiti in games and sketching in a book
How about spots that have no space left but the same person has his name up in multiple areas of that spot?? Is it disrespectful to choose one of his to go over? I did and it pissed him off. He had 6 pieces up in one spot. I wrote no diss next to my piece.
Did ya cover em completely? Did ya burn em? Did ya leave em hanging out half way?
@@jimmythedon69 all very important questions. @jbohlz you normally better off just not going over someone. Even in a place like NYC there's free walls to hit but if you absolutely need to go over something then the questions he asked should be questions you ask yourself
@@Theartistblock exactly, even at a free wall people will take it as a diss just gotta be careful
Hey guys, Im a toy can any one recommend tips to learn graffiti?
practice, stay simple, don’t try and add too much style, work on handstyle before u dive into wildstyle pieces.
@@neddsonator_2767 thanks, I'll try it on a subway
Man the city i live in there is no real graffiti scene, you see old pieces under bridges, but thats it, these 2 bridges it sucks, wish we had a crew here.
Where you live?
As far as I understand it "toy" used to mean someone who was intentionally being arrogant or disrespectful but then it gradually became a blank term to mean someone who was a "noob" or ignorant . I find modern word evolution fascinating like how "Jerk" and "A-hole" used to mean someone who was stupid or unintelligent but within 20 years changed to mean someone was mean or abrasive.
so whats the story of cose? (i forever thought it was core) i would like to hear more about artists, why they got in how inspiration backgrounds
Would you be talking about Cope2?
@@Theartistblock im sorry yes, i was trying to make out what he said
@@drxalde3222 I can try to invite some of these people for an interview and ask exactly that. I reached out to a few people already so I'll extend a few more invites out and see
When I was toy I felt like my shit was clean (wasn’t) and I could make my letters look however long as I could read it lol
Dunning Kruger effect.
@@NittyGritty420 yessir
@@NittyGritty420 What is that?
@@ardentacious4392 a stage in progression where you think you are better than you actually are. It’s a personal bias you have that stunts your growth. Basically it’s best to always consider yourself toy that way you keep on progressing.
@@NittyGritty420 Ah ok, thanks.
I am working to teach some students about the basics of graffiti. What books do you suggest?
In all honesty, none, they are all garbage and better fictional stories than lord of the rings. If you know the fundamentals of art, then as you read "how to do graffiti books" you will instantly see these books have zero understanding of any art fundamentals and as a result zero understanding of the science for graffiti. In short, you're better off picking up a general art book that focuses on arts basics.
In graffiti books they instantly go into teaching style with little to no fundamental knowledge taught first. If they just so happen to teach any fundamentals, they teach it incorrectly ( if you already know general art fundamentals then reading this stuff will give you a good laugh).
If you're going to teach students about graffiti, I'd go one of two ways, either approach it from a "fun first" angle where you let them know that hey this is a fun art form and we're just going to play around with letters. This way there is no burden or expectation of fundamentals and fundamental knowledge but rather an exploration of another artform.
Or approach number 2, would be to teach it by using the already established academic information of art unrealated to graffiti. So essentially a basic drawing class focusing on the importance of line, shape, form, value, space , color, texture, then applying that to print letters with zero style as to learn and study how the basics function.
Information on graffitis fundamental is a minefield of bad information as graffiti artists themselves either didn't think of graffiti as an art therefor never studied, practiced or established fundamentals, or graffiti artists didn't think graffiti had fundamentals so once again they didn't study, practice or establish their fundamental or basic art information. This outlook only changed less than a decade ago. For this reason the standard for graffiti's information is literally at an elementary art level. The only good graffiti information would only come from fine artists that decided to do graffiti (like daim and few others), or graffiti artists who decided to focus on fine art like Greg Simpkins
@@Theartistblock excellent. We covered the fundamentals before and will be covering them during. I figured we were on the right track but I wanted your perspective. Thank you. I'll have to share some throwies and tags with you when they finish. Cheers.
it depends on what type of graffiti u wanna teach them. but, for the love of God, do not get a tutorial from any TH-cam art tutorial channel.
Can't wait for the books
The only tip you need .....practice, practice and practice!
So man let's talk. I hate the internet when it comes to Graff. All the way. It changed the landscape for the worse. I started writing in 98ish. My og is very old school. I was taught you suck until further notice. Point blank. My og told me when I didn't suck. No one else. But as for internet Graff you are the only person I have found talk about the basic fundamentals that is not super toy. Thank you. I am not for learning Graff this way. It is hands on. But if you are going to learn for TH-cam come here. Thanks for properly spreading the message. InfiniteStyleFroce.
I have to agree. Sure I make these videos and I try to find the positive in the internet and graffiti together but over all I don't like it. Watered everything down and teaching online while I love it, I enjoy mentoring in person more. Like you said, hands on. The culture of it all is dead now too because the online space but we gotta make the best with what we have. Been writing one year less, since 99, and back then for you and I, things were so much different and more fun in my opinion.
@The Artist Block more fun for sure. I had to take caps off any aerosol I could find and test them. Then hold my can upside down to spray aerosol to lower the pressure in my rusto cans.
And I had to bump in to someone to meet them. It was very much an adventure every time I went out. I had to search for the knowledge. Not just look it up. But I am just older and grumpy. I don't care in which space people find this art. Here there everywhere. But it has made it less of a culture and more of an art. I am a lifestyleist. Graff is a big part of how I learned to define myself. Blood sweat and tears. I was taught valuable life lessons getting caught up a getting over. And to me that is where I learned what my name and its expression meant. Hard fought hard learned. My style is simple and smooth. Just like my get over. Simple and smooth. For me they are one and the same. The internet has take a lot of that away. Your name is expressionless because it meaning is not hard fought. My techniques are also unorthodox because they are mine. Not the home from YT,Tiktok or insta. Further giving it deapth and meaning. Sorry morning rant from an old head still catching old tags. People you do you. And I will do me. This for me was before the internet and will be after. IntellectStaysFree.
I need help for a neam
Neam is good
Everyone is a toy when they start the problem is writers from da 80's da majority call themselves legends just because they were up a lot that shit don't make u a legend especially if everything u did bck in da days was wack ....
someone tagged toy over my tag
Soon you will be just crossed out. It happens. I seen one crossed with a toy stamp and said you have been doing the same letters for 8 years. Do with that as you will.
They got a dude around br that tags grim and im always like ;-; erm
@@josephinefox9347 lol iv seen roughly 5 grims in person, on in NY Tthats really good. There are no legends named grim so the name is fair game. Best of luck to all of them
So am a toy and the closes real city is to far for me to go so the only other artist in my town do slaps in school just to see who can have the most up at the end of a day.
What are your thoughts on learning the fundamentals on the vr game KINGSPRAY
I started 3 days ago so i am a really big toy, and i try not to be.
Don't sweat it man, being toy isn't a bad thing. Enjoy it, embrace it and don't rush trying to get out of the toy phase. You'll be a toy for a few years as far as skill and that's OK. If anything, try to show respect and learn the ropes so that you're not toy in that regard. You can do that in a fraction of the time.
@@Theartistblock Thanks man, your content and your advices are really helpful.
honestly, i'd call myself a toy cause i dont have a good style for my name
i tried almost everything but i cant seem to find my flow at all
All of your issues are happening because you're adding style and you haven't yet learned the basics. No amature in any artform is capable of style because style is the product of understanding the basics.
Also, flow happens automatically If your other fundamentals are done properly. This means the only way to mess up flow is if you've messed up the other fundamentals (in your case by adding style). Feel free to reach on on Instagram and tell me it's you so I can spot you in the DM. I'd love to give you some help
@@Theartistblock oh ok
Now I see what I'm doing wrong, thanks for letting me know
shout out the DB's 702 vegas shit @6:41
I love how he used cope for the thumbnail this is gold🤣
Cope used to be best friends with my mentor and their crew. Family friends even. I got to see first hand the things he did. Still respect his work but, only his work
I accidently crossed a respected writer from my town 😢
rip lol
Hi The Artist Block i started graffiti last month i changed my tag around 5-6-7 times and now my tag is *Sloed* i made a new throw up last week i want to know hoe can i get better at throwies i did what you said about the muscle memory but i still dont get have a good day and goodbye
You need patience friend. 6 months is nowhere near enough time to learn throwies on your own (even with vids). It takes years to get a good throwie. In addition you keep changing your name so you're not practicing consistently with a name to learn how it works, this is slowing your learning not to mention I can just about guarantee you likely aren't studying your elements of art and likely adding too much style. All of this works against you. Be patient you're only a few months in
@@Theartistblockim doing throw ups for 7months + they are not terrible but whenever i try a tag it comes out terribly absolutely crap beacuse my handstyle sucks never worked on it and ita really hard to get the findamentals on point
I’d consider myself a toy at this point but not because I’m disrespectful or have an ego but more so because my skill level
There is ZERO skill to graffiti. Most 10 year olds can do what you do, but they don't because their parents taught them to respect other people's property. You are nothing but a vandal.
I'm a toy. 😔 I'm just good at drawing and felt in love with someone who reaaaally likes graffiti. I'm not good at all. wajsjs
dope
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Pls show this video to all these kids in tiktok comment sections
i wanted to see graffiti
Not going to lie my name is toy I just stared so seems good
hi grim
John is sticker slapping toy?
No way bro called cope toy he has one of the most infamous throwies and I didn’t know he went to houston texas my home town
He used to be my mentors partner and best friend. I didn't call him toy at all in this video. The thumbnail is more of a good example of how to do graffiti
@@Theartistblock ohhhh my bad
5:12 😂 what is that????????
why is there a thumbnail of a cope 2 piece with that title
It’s been fuck Cope forever!!!
Unpopular opinion… ether got himself caught. I’m gonna take a New York legends word way before some kid from the suburbs word.
so you found out graffiti is kinda idiot thing to do..welcome to the world
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Smak420❤🍔🍟
Booya
Only toys use the word toy
Someone’s been called a toy a bit too much 😂
I clicked because I use core as my tag
Core is a good name. The thumbnail is cope2 a legend, close names but luckily not the same 👍
@@Theartistblock damn that makes me a toy for not knowing the name and not knowing it's a P
@@Theartistblock I was so pissed to know that someone in another city is using core before me BUT he's using two name so like.decide.and he didn't break a leg for his name like I did roof jumping
@@lurky5913 Some friendly advice, get used to thousands of people having your name and dont get upset by it . Number one its childish to get upset by that especially if they're far, but more importantly, the only names off limits are legends names. this means your name is fair game for EVERYONE to use. if you or anyone for that matter wants an exclusive name, then become a legend. Core is an extremely common name as is Grim. I've met and hear of at least 100 other Grims and some where in my same town. im not a legend, my name is fair game. Only people who get upset over someone having their names are toys and the immature, thats it. Its ok to be toy early on and it's ok to be immature as a kid but eventually you have to get past both.
@@Theartistblock I see
How to not be a toy don't make a youtube channel not showing your writing skills!😂
Still a toy. The graff community is not friendly or welcoming. It’s discouraging
How tf can there be respect if you're painting people's stuff without their permission? Especially when it's the same crappy jumble of words that have zero meaning to 99% of people
Toy
If you don't know the culture n history, just say dat gang
black book. learn it. practice it. its your bible.
Also to be honest, cope's throw is technically speaking pretty good, but that's like literally the only thing he does, and he's a toy for many reasons, just not the t-up lol
He has good pieces he's done also. Can't ignore the skill. But also, can't ignore the other stuff haha
Someone is going around scratching out people's throwies and tags but not putting up anything in my area. I hope they don't get caught cuz that's some b.llsh.t
this video is a TOY
real toy 40 secconds
What Cope KD a toy???? Duel RIS????? SKUF????? COME ON MAN.
@@justincarr8178 ben on top!!!!1112!11!!! 🦧🦧🦧🐫🦑🎃📸💊🚿🚽🚽🚽
You a toy
Wow... this... is trash.
Graffiti is disgusting