At the end of this I really wanted them to say "How's that Hugh Jackman?" And then a slow clap begins as the camera pans, clappin intensifies camera goes full 180 around to reveal Hugh Jackman furiously clapping in Brandon's home theater alone.
100% expected that to end with Brandon just being like, “and my favorite Hugh Jackman movie’s Mistborn.” And Dan responding “Yeah. That one’s great.” A beat of silence. “How’s that Ben?”
When Dan said that store clerks put up with a lot of crap, I really wanted him to say that this store clerk who was attacked with a fish put up with a lot of carp...
My friend put on Logan and I immediately starting sobbing. He asked why I was being weird about it and I told him his chinese food was inauthentic and then went to write some mean yelp reviews.
I couldn't agree more! I love it when he goes "OOOooh" as well. It's something that shows through in his writing, I think. And it's something I've adopted into my own interactions. If someone disagrees with you, don't get defensive. Get excited instead! Listen to their argument, hear what they have to say. Internalise their opinion, and then you can truly compare it to your own and see which is better.
What's the subtweet? There's some sort of reference I'm not getting here? Something about Hugh Jackman? EDIT: AH, I get it now. For anyone else, apparently in that one article criticizing Sanderson, the author said that he hated the movie The Greatest Showman and he hated Hugh Jackman, so this entire episode is just talking about a bunch of Hugh Jackman movies and stuff.
It took me a minute to figure out why there was so much focus on Hugh Jackman. Once it clicked though, the podcast got a whole new layer and became even funnier
@@storieswithc A few weeks back Wired released an article on Brandon (don't bother reading it, its not worth your time). The article reads like the author went looking for dirt on Brandon, and when he couldn't find any, settled for writing a "Brandon is lame and you're lame for liking him" article instead. At one point in the article, the author goes into a rather strange aside to talk about how much he dislikes Hugh Jackman. This podcast is just Brandon and Dan poking a little fun at the author because what kind of person doesn't like Hugh Jackman?
@@samthestache8 Ooooh. Okay, that makes this episode a lot funnier. I knew about the hit piece but didn't bother reading it. What a fantastic way to respond.
I never imagined that I would end up listening to and enjoying such an in-depth and nuanced discussion about a table! Truly an impressive accomplishment.
The prestige is easily the best Hugh Jackman movie. Mostly because it's one of the greatest films of all time, but also specifically because he's so good in it.
Fun church story that intersects with today's episode. The first time my wife and I attended church some kids behind us were being really out of control. The missionaries told us that their parents were on the stand, speaking. That husband and wife heard that the noise bugged us, potential converts, and invited us to their home for dinner. He was the registrar at my university, a Brit, married to a New Zealander. Wonderful dinner. We met all the kids. One of them was Keala Settle, their 9 year old girl. Keala Settle was the fat lady in The Greatest Showman, who sang "This is Me," that Brandon and Dan discussed at about 37:30. She won the 2018 Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song, and was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Original Song, and my wife and I ate dinner with her when she was 9.
@@mycroft8344 The really bad Wired article about Sanderson involved the article writer talking about how much he hates Hugh Jackman (I probably spelled that wrong).
Moffat should run a show for the CW. That way they can double down on his uncanny ability to start a series REALLY WELL before it descends into madness
To be fair, when he was just writing during the early years he was doing 1 or 2 scripts a year. Once he was showrunner he was doing 7 or 8 scripts a year plus overseeing all the other scripts and managing everything else in the production. They're very different jobs. And then for whatever insane reason adding the Sherlock workload on top of that... Also he'd said and done everything he wanted and was ready to be done after Matt and the 50th anniversary, but was sort of forced to stay on for Capaldi's era because there a simply wasn't anyone else capable of running it available. He was pretty clearly burnt out by the end of both shows and needed a break.
I dismissed the Wired article so fast in my mind, that it didn't even occur to me what this was all about until I had finished the whole episode and and came to the comments to see if I could figure out what was going on here. Lol
A wholesome thing that happened: about the van helsing movie outfit, I thought you were going to hack internet reality, by confidently stating something wrong, that you'd like to be true. Then listened some more, and turns out you were doing it because you wanted to be corrected and learn. So wholesome.
@@huntedskelly That awful wired article where the writer just apparently absolutely loathed Brandon and all fantasy fans but was for some reason assigned to write about him... at one point rants about how much he hates Hugh Jackman after Brandon showed him a few minutes of Greatest Showman. So in this episode the tables are turned and they're just endlessly going on about him out of spite.
Just a quick biochemistry clarification: the ability to digest lactose isn’t a mutation per se. Everyone is born with the ability to digest it (that’s how babies can breastfeed) but the gene that controls enzyme production is turned off as we age. The “mutation” is that some people (generally Northern Europeans) evolved to be able to continue metabolizing lactose. The main theory for this is that milk is high in vitamin D. Normally humans generate vitamin D when in the sun (because UV light breaks down cholesterol into vitamin D). However in the North people didn’t have enough sun time, so they adapted to get supplementary vitamin D from milk. Loved the episode btw! More table talk please.
As a cook in a culinary profession that caters to the needs of people with specific dietetic needs in a hospital setting, I can honestly say oil is the best way to prepare eggs. In my working opinion. But when you want flavor... Brown butter scrambled eggs with a soft cheese... Chefs kiss.
Lactose tolerance (lactase persistence), is actually a collection of mutations as it was evolved several times by different groups. The only thing all the groups have in common was that they regularly consumed dairy, with less strong variants developed in regions where they made the milk into cheese, and stronger variants developing in regions where it was drank (which would be regions where it was cold enough often enough to keep the milk from spoiling).
So what I'm hearing is that my ability to eat cheese means I'm a mutant of some kind. It's not laser vision or telepathy, but I'll take it. I'd rather eat ice cream than hear what people are thinking anyway.
People treat it as an on/off switch but you can build lactose tolerance and most people can have a little bit fine and if they wish slowly add more to their diet. Also adding those tasty lactaid tablets into your first bite basically gives you the missing enzymes.
@@cbpd89 Well, the way evolution works means we're all really just extremely mutated versions of the first fish to crawl onto land, so sadly lactose tolerance is just one mutation atop a pile of a million prior ones.
I am 17 and a half minutes into this episode and it feels like a practical joke. Repeated promises to talk about the table, repeated nods to Hugh Jackman, and segues that feel super awkward. Lol.
That's because it is. A journalist put out a weird... hit piece? (I'm not sure if it can even be called that, it's more just a weird confused ramble with no central thesis) after spending some time with Brandon that, among other things, involved the journalist talking about watching The Greatest Showman in Brandon's home theater and crying because of how much he hates Hugh Jackman's singing compounded with how boring he found Brandon.
I would say that I could listen to these two talking about nothing for an hour and I'd enjoy it. This was them actually talking about nothing for (nearly) an hour, and yes I did enjoy it.
I’d love an episode on book trailers. It was apparently a thing during the 2010s or so. I believe Dan may have a book that got a book trailer. It would be interesting to hear these two authors discussing book marketing.
speaking as your average Spaniard, I must say that NO, we don't drink olive oil or go around drinking it. we sure use it a lot in cooking but we don't drink it. Brandon must have gone to a weird special place where they did that thing, to me it sounds like something very fancy restaurants would do just to be different.
Food-adjacent stories, margarine, and tables. My favorite thing about this podcast (next to the presenters, of course) is the topics, they keep me coming back
You are the first two people I have ever known of to ACTUALLY reference The Phantom Of The Opera book. it’s so good and I wish it was talked about more. It’s so much better than the musical (don’t @ me, I’m right)
So glad we talked about the table! Imagine if they didnt talk about the table. Imagine if somones only job was to talk about the table, and just talked about how they feel about hugh jackman!
From the podcast I learned that Hugh did a movie called Kate and Leopold, which was directed by James Mangold, who directed Logan with Hugh Jackman, which could not be more opposite mvoies.
Like so many others, was quite a bit baffled at first. Brandon not signing anything? What's with the table? The more I watched, the funnier it got but had to read the comments and google it to get the idea as I did not remember the article so well. After I got the joke, it got downright hilarious. I adore these two! Also, SOOO glad to see the love Hugh gets. I like him soooooo much and agree that he makes everything better just by being there. Adjacent to what Brandon and Dan mentioned, I told my friend already a few decades ago that if you had the word "charismatic" in the dictionary, Hugh Jackman's photo underneath it would suffice as the definition. For what it's worth, I have always found there was a reason they made Leopold the inventor of the lift in "Kate and Leopold" - he came into the future, therefore did not invent the lift in that timeline, Liev Schreiber's character fell into the shaft, was taken to the hospital and Leopold was stranded in the future in Stuart's flat instead of being sent right back, giving all the following events a chance to unfold.
The Warhammer inquisitor and Van Helsing outfit were probably initially inspired by historical witch hunters. Look up Matthew Hopkins. The style is there.
Oh I am so glad to hear others saying positive things about Spirited. It seems like a lot of people think it's really meh but I just loved it, the music is great, the humor really lands, one of the rare movies I can enjoy re-watching more than once or twice.
the funniest thing about Hugh Jackman I've got is that my work colleague keeps calling him Jack Hughman and I can't stop laughing at that until this day :D
I was going to say this! But it might also be that the people behind the film didn't do that much research, and just picked up the WHF version, because it has a bigger cultural weight nowadays.
I'm Spanish and we don't drink olive oil straight up. Sometimes we put it on a plate and pick it up with bread and eat that? but usually we use it to cook or salads (and then do the bread thing with the leftover oil maybe).
Dan should try ghee. It's butter with all the milk solids (lactose, casein, etc.) removed, so all that's left is the oil. It's also involved in the origin of the phrase "butter sometime up".
@@wynq not sure what was inside the cut, but they were constantly teasing talking about the table, and then didn't address it, and it makes it even more ridiculous (and reinforces the not-smooth way they do it) that they add a clip at the end where they again tease talking about it
The irony is dripping here. And Brandon forgetting to start signing the pages?! Truly, if there was a secret in a secret it would be this. Jackman is our Kelsier.
@@pickpocket293 The reporter had…a bit of a melt down over his dislike of The Greatest Showman and Hugh Jackman when Brandon put on the opening to demo his home theater for the guy.
9:00 Ok Dan, here’s how it actually happened from a biologist’s perspective. Early lactose intolerant (i.e. metabolically normal) human groups in the Middle East and Northern Europe started giving children milk from cows and goats as a sort of mom-hasn’t-eaten-in-two-days-and-there’s-no-such-thing-as-baby-formula alternative to breast milk to get through hard times. Using milk as food (even for a small portion of the population) eventually gave way to accidentally letting some spoil in conditions suitable to make cheeses. Protein-rich, hard cheeses not only tasted good, but were also easier to digest than straight up milk for people who were lactose intolerant or older children who were in the process of losing tolerance. After thousands of years of doing this, in both locations (Northern Europe and the Middle East) some lucky kid got a mutation in their genetic code that allowed them to continue to drink milk without making the great boom boom well into adulthood, by continuing to express lactase production in their small intestine throughout adulthood. Because this meant they could turn grass into food so long as there was a cow nearby, these two individuals and their descendants understandably had a reproductive advantage, and it became a useful mutation in our genome. A similar thing happened with palm nuts, although much earlier, in Sub-Saharan Africa.
10:00 I'll just say that in Southern Spain the traditional breakfast is an olive oil sandwich with a little bit of sugar, or salt. So, yeah, it is not weird to eat it
The whole table thing was HILARIOUS ! Chapeau Btw I don't know about Spain, but being Italian I can tell you we do use olive oil a lot more than butter, though tasting it by itself is usually only a thing they offer if you visit the places where it is produced and sold.
I love so much that they just cannot get to the point in this episode 😂 Reminds me of Too Many Cooks. We should really get to be talking about the table... 🙃
I can answer your lactose intolerance question! Lactase Persistance (the genetic bit that allows people to process lactose), starts about 10,000 years ago in African, European, and Middle East populations around the same time that cows were being domesticated. At this time, over 90% of the population were lactose intolerant, but they all drank milk since it was a sterile source of fluids and also calorie/nutrient dense. Dairy consumption continues to grow across Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, but most people remained lactose intolerant. This is because the effects of lactose intolerance aren't severe enough to lead to significant selection pressure *except* during times of famine and plague. During famine, lactose intolerant people can't extract as many nutrients from dairy, so have higher mortality rates. During plagues, the gastrointestinal issues associated with lactose intolerance move from minor inconvenience to extremely dangerous, so again they have higher mortality rates.
As an spanish person, drinking oil is not how we use it. We actually use it for example to eat it with a slice of bread and tomato (catalan food) called Pantumaca. And we use olive oil for our normal cuisine to fry things, or to put it on salads, but we dont drink it like wine.
Frying eggs in butter should produce the most delicious chemical reaction- the maillard reaction. When using oil, which is faster, healthier, and possibly adds another layer of taste, one way to achieve this is to heat the oil just until it almost smokes, sprinkle very little powdered suger, and immidietly add eggs. you get an omlet with a lovely crisp brown bottom and an inviting yellow-orange top.
Wtf did I just watch? Was absolutely baffled by what was happening and then 15 minutes in noticed the Pan poster behind Brandon and really thought they were going to swivel the camera around at some point and Hugh Jackman was going to be there. It did not remotely feel like a plausible thing that could happen but then it just kept going and going and going and I was like "is... is Hugh Jackman going to show up?" (A total aside, but I imagine Michael Keaton returning as Batman in the new Flash movie will mean he takes the record for person who's played a superhero "longest" away from either Jackman or Patrick Stewart.)
Good shout re: Michael Keaton! Not sure if there are any rules guarding this (e.g. movie only) but John Wesley Shipp played Jay Garrick Flash in 1990 and is the same character on the CW version of the show now. Could give Keaton a run for his money.
I’m reading Dracula for the first time via Dracula Daily where they email the story as it happens. I think tomorrow is the first entry, should be a lot of fun!
At the end of this I really wanted them to say "How's that Hugh Jackman?" And then a slow clap begins as the camera pans, clappin intensifies camera goes full 180 around to reveal Hugh Jackman furiously clapping in Brandon's home theater alone.
A full Shia Surprise moment
That would have been amazing
Head canon fully accepted and it’s playing in a loop in my mind.
I'm definitely picturing him doing the Orson Welles clap
I actually expected this to happen, knowing the celebrity connections that these two have, and was supremely disappointed that it did not.
100% expected that to end with Brandon just being like, “and my favorite Hugh Jackman movie’s Mistborn.” And Dan responding “Yeah. That one’s great.” A beat of silence. “How’s that Ben?”
Hugh as Kelsier would work pretty well.
@@desertdwellintom I'd like him for marsh. Especially in era 2.
He'd be a great Marsh also but he would need to be the lead.
I would lose my mind if he casually announced it that way
I think Brad Pitt would work too now that he's older.
I’m glad Hugh Jackman is universally loved and absolutely no one dislikes him.
We all know that anyone who doesn't like Hugh Jackman is morally bankrupt.
i wouldn't trust someone who doesn't like Hugh Jackman
Absolutey no one comes to mind when I try to imagine a human being who wouldn't enjoy anything pertaining to Hugh Jackman.
Stop you're gonna make me cry
I love that Brandon is just oh-so-subtly DESTROYING that man's snobbish coastal elitism
Honestly Brandon forgetting to start signing is so nice, it means you guys are kind of excited to be there chatting. Thanks for letting us sit in.
So excited to start chatting - or setting up the next sandershock?!
When Dan said that store clerks put up with a lot of crap, I really wanted him to say that this store clerk who was attacked with a fish put up with a lot of carp...
Well, you know what they say, carp diem.
@@Azravald Seize the fish!
Carpe carp.
If it's a robbery then it's even better. This will be a story of a man who seize the carp to seize the dimes.
I almost had a mouthful of water when you said "journalistic standards"
Brando sando is dabbing on the haters like it's 2015 and he's a prank TH-camr
Same
What's the time stamp?
@@M0ntezuma300 3:25
I love this podcast because it is completly unintelligible to anyone who have not watched every single previous episode
Yes! So right!
Exactly my kind of humor
It's like a 50+ hour conversation. You can't just jump in the middle lol.
And read a certain Wired article.
@@robertdullnig3625 Or just watched a couple TH-cam videos about said article without gracing its "reporter" with clicks.
how many wired 'writer' tears were shed at the mere mention of Hugh Jackman without derision or irony but actual appreciation for him and his work.
Not as many as over that beautiful relaxing table that is reminiscent of a certain shower.
At least one.
I feel like Sanderson bringing up every single Hugh Jackman movie he can is the best response to that article.
I was so happy they talked about Hugh Jackman. I mean I just had to sit here and cry.
My friend put on Logan and I immediately starting sobbing. He asked why I was being weird about it and I told him his chinese food was inauthentic and then went to write some mean yelp reviews.
I love Brandon’s enthusiastic “okay!” whenever Dan disagrees and he’s truly interested to hear Dan’s opinion.
I couldn't agree more! I love it when he goes "OOOooh" as well. It's something that shows through in his writing, I think. And it's something I've adopted into my own interactions. If someone disagrees with you, don't get defensive. Get excited instead! Listen to their argument, hear what they have to say. Internalise their opinion, and then you can truly compare it to your own and see which is better.
This whole podcast is such a classy, hilarious subtweet.
What's the subtweet? There's some sort of reference I'm not getting here? Something about Hugh Jackman?
EDIT: AH, I get it now. For anyone else, apparently in that one article criticizing Sanderson, the author said that he hated the movie The Greatest Showman and he hated Hugh Jackman, so this entire episode is just talking about a bunch of Hugh Jackman movies and stuff.
It took me a minute to figure out why there was so much focus on Hugh Jackman. Once it clicked though, the podcast got a whole new layer and became even funnier
Can someone explain it to me, i enjoyed the podcast but the table and Hugh Jackman focus went right over my head LOL
@@storieswithc A few weeks back Wired released an article on Brandon (don't bother reading it, its not worth your time). The article reads like the author went looking for dirt on Brandon, and when he couldn't find any, settled for writing a "Brandon is lame and you're lame for liking him" article instead. At one point in the article, the author goes into a rather strange aside to talk about how much he dislikes Hugh Jackman. This podcast is just Brandon and Dan poking a little fun at the author because what kind of person doesn't like Hugh Jackman?
@@samthestache8 Thank you. The context helps so much.
@@samthestache8 Ooooh. Okay, that makes this episode a lot funnier. I knew about the hit piece but didn't bother reading it. What a fantastic way to respond.
This also paints Dan's "journalistic integrity" comment in a new light and I'm here for that.
This episode is absolutely savage in the most subtle, hilarious and genuinely entertaining way. Please never stop being so awesome, you two.
You forgot when the table was part of a magic trick in The Prestige. Starring Hugh Jackman.
this is the most intentionally blank episode of intentionally blank
Laugh out loud when Dan said journalistic integrity😅
I never imagined that I would end up listening to and enjoying such an in-depth and nuanced discussion about a table! Truly an impressive accomplishment.
That wired guy is punching air right now listening to this podcast episode about their love of Hugh Jackman lol
Or he’s sobbing in the corner of his 1 bedroom apartment 😂
When Brandon laughed extra hard at the Journalistic Standards joke, I thought of the Wired guy 😂
No no, crying sadly 😂
The prestige is easily the best Hugh Jackman movie. Mostly because it's one of the greatest films of all time, but also specifically because he's so good in it.
It is the best movie in general.
Fun church story that intersects with today's episode. The first time my wife and I attended church some kids behind us were being really out of control. The missionaries told us that their parents were on the stand, speaking. That husband and wife heard that the noise bugged us, potential converts, and invited us to their home for dinner.
He was the registrar at my university, a Brit, married to a New Zealander. Wonderful dinner. We met all the kids. One of them was Keala Settle, their 9 year old girl.
Keala Settle was the fat lady in The Greatest Showman, who sang "This is Me," that Brandon and Dan discussed at about 37:30. She won the 2018 Golden Globe Award for Best Original Song, and was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Original Song, and my wife and I ate dinner with her when she was 9.
On the one hand, it took me far too long to realise the context for this episode. On the other, I laughed a lot when I caught it.
To someone who didn't get the context what is it?
@@mycroft8344 The really bad Wired article about Sanderson involved the article writer talking about how much he hates Hugh Jackman (I probably spelled that wrong).
It took me too long to figure it out, too. This was a great meta joke. 😅
@@jeannastay2169 AHHHHHHHHHH ok, this makes SOOOOO much more sense now. I thought someone lost (or won) a bet or something
Thanks for explaining lol I was lost. But what does this have to do with the table?
I feel like the main topic this week was tabled due to all the tangents
I concur with Brando Sando about Moffat. He wrote some of the best, most iconic episodes of New Who - when someone else was showrunner.
Moffat should run a show for the CW. That way they can double down on his uncanny ability to start a series REALLY WELL before it descends into madness
To be fair, when he was just writing during the early years he was doing 1 or 2 scripts a year. Once he was showrunner he was doing 7 or 8 scripts a year plus overseeing all the other scripts and managing everything else in the production. They're very different jobs. And then for whatever insane reason adding the Sherlock workload on top of that...
Also he'd said and done everything he wanted and was ready to be done after Matt and the 50th anniversary, but was sort of forced to stay on for Capaldi's era because there a simply wasn't anyone else capable of running it available.
He was pretty clearly burnt out by the end of both shows and needed a break.
Brandon’s favorite food felony is definitely *a salt*
Dragonsteel’s head of puns? Is that you?
Bravo
A salt and buttery?
@@hunterkillerai A tale of popcorn theft.
Hahahaha Hugh Jackman awesomeness! Jason is going to cry again.
I’m glad Jack the Carjacking Car is staying relevant.
His sidekick should be Car Jackman. Not sure who could play that role though.
@@robertdullnig3625Definitely Samuel L Jack…son
Dang maybe not
I dismissed the Wired article so fast in my mind, that it didn't even occur to me what this was all about until I had finished the whole episode and and came to the comments to see if I could figure out what was going on here. Lol
A wholesome thing that happened: about the van helsing movie outfit, I thought you were going to hack internet reality, by confidently stating something wrong, that you'd like to be true. Then listened some more, and turns out you were doing it because you wanted to be corrected and learn. So wholesome.
THIS WHOLE EPISODE IS GENIUS!!!!!
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE TABLE IS ABOUT I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
@@huntedskelly That awful wired article where the writer just apparently absolutely loathed Brandon and all fantasy fans but was for some reason assigned to write about him... at one point rants about how much he hates Hugh Jackman after Brandon showed him a few minutes of Greatest Showman.
So in this episode the tables are turned and they're just endlessly going on about him out of spite.
That wired article writer must be going mad listening to all the Hugh Jackman praise.
Just a quick biochemistry clarification: the ability to digest lactose isn’t a mutation per se. Everyone is born with the ability to digest it (that’s how babies can breastfeed) but the gene that controls enzyme production is turned off as we age. The “mutation” is that some people (generally Northern Europeans) evolved to be able to continue metabolizing lactose. The main theory for this is that milk is high in vitamin D. Normally humans generate vitamin D when in the sun (because UV light breaks down cholesterol into vitamin D). However in the North people didn’t have enough sun time, so they adapted to get supplementary vitamin D from milk.
Loved the episode btw! More table talk please.
As a cook in a culinary profession that caters to the needs of people with specific dietetic needs in a hospital setting, I can honestly say oil is the best way to prepare eggs. In my working opinion. But when you want flavor... Brown butter scrambled eggs with a soft cheese... Chefs kiss.
Lactose tolerance (lactase persistence), is actually a collection of mutations as it was evolved several times by different groups. The only thing all the groups have in common was that they regularly consumed dairy, with less strong variants developed in regions where they made the milk into cheese, and stronger variants developing in regions where it was drank (which would be regions where it was cold enough often enough to keep the milk from spoiling).
So what I'm hearing is that my ability to eat cheese means I'm a mutant of some kind. It's not laser vision or telepathy, but I'll take it. I'd rather eat ice cream than hear what people are thinking anyway.
People treat it as an on/off switch but you can build lactose tolerance and most people can have a little bit fine and if they wish slowly add more to their diet. Also adding those tasty lactaid tablets into your first bite basically gives you the missing enzymes.
@@cbpd89 Well, the way evolution works means we're all really just extremely mutated versions of the first fish to crawl onto land, so sadly lactose tolerance is just one mutation atop a pile of a million prior ones.
how did they not mention the Prestige??? that was so Wired of them.
I am 17 and a half minutes into this episode and it feels like a practical joke. Repeated promises to talk about the table, repeated nods to Hugh Jackman, and segues that feel super awkward. Lol.
That's because it is. A journalist put out a weird... hit piece? (I'm not sure if it can even be called that, it's more just a weird confused ramble with no central thesis) after spending some time with Brandon that, among other things, involved the journalist talking about watching The Greatest Showman in Brandon's home theater and crying because of how much he hates Hugh Jackman's singing compounded with how boring he found Brandon.
@@LewsTherinTelescope That is fantastic! I never even made the connection to the wired article. Thanks for explaining. LoL
@@LewsTherinTelescope But what about the table?!?!?
TIL!
I was drinking water when Dan said "journalistic standards" 😂
I don’t comment on TH-cam videos, ever. This was a master stroke. Chef’s kiss to everyone involved.
I would say that I could listen to these two talking about nothing for an hour and I'd enjoy it. This was them actually talking about nothing for (nearly) an hour, and yes I did enjoy it.
You're not giving the table enough credit.
I still don't get the table reference. Is it just because it's not relevant so they don't talk about it?
I’d love an episode on book trailers. It was apparently a thing during the 2010s or so. I believe Dan may have a book that got a book trailer. It would be interesting to hear these two authors discussing book marketing.
This was a VERY Dan and Brandon episode 😉
speaking as your average Spaniard, I must say that NO, we don't drink olive oil or go around drinking it. we sure use it a lot in cooking but we don't drink it. Brandon must have gone to a weird special place where they did that thing, to me it sounds like something very fancy restaurants would do just to be different.
"Lovingly curated" regarding food heists. I see what you did, Dan
Days of Future Past, XMen 2, and Logan were all just movie perfection for me. LOVED them.
You know who has probably ate at a table in his life? Hugh Jackman
Food-adjacent stories, margarine, and tables. My favorite thing about this podcast (next to the presenters, of course) is the topics, they keep me coming back
At last, some real love for Van Helsing! I absolutely adore that movie. The perfect example of the _good_ kind of schlock/camp.
The Prestige is a great film, and Hugh Jackman's performance is incredible!
Freaking called it! 2nd time they mentioned table that it was a ploy to keep audience attention like JJ Abrams mystery box.
WHATS IN THE BOX THOUGH
You are the first two people I have ever known of to ACTUALLY reference The Phantom Of The Opera book. it’s so good and I wish it was talked about more. It’s so much better than the musical (don’t @ me, I’m right)
May I introduce to you the goldmine that is Lindsay Ellis.
It took me 36 minutes to figure it out. But well done. Well done indeed.
21 minutes before I decided I needed to read TH-cam comments lol. Bloody brilliant.
Can we get a special episode at some point that's all the best non-heist food-adjacent crimes people have sent in?
So glad we talked about the table!
Imagine if they didnt talk about the table. Imagine if somones only job was to talk about the table, and just talked about how they feel about hugh jackman!
From the podcast I learned that Hugh did a movie called Kate and Leopold, which was directed by James Mangold, who directed Logan with Hugh Jackman, which could not be more opposite mvoies.
Like so many others, was quite a bit baffled at first. Brandon not signing anything? What's with the table? The more I watched, the funnier it got but had to read the comments and google it to get the idea as I did not remember the article so well. After I got the joke, it got downright hilarious. I adore these two!
Also, SOOO glad to see the love Hugh gets. I like him soooooo much and agree that he makes everything better just by being there. Adjacent to what Brandon and Dan mentioned, I told my friend already a few decades ago that if you had the word "charismatic" in the dictionary, Hugh Jackman's photo underneath it would suffice as the definition.
For what it's worth, I have always found there was a reason they made Leopold the inventor of the lift in "Kate and Leopold" - he came into the future, therefore did not invent the lift in that timeline, Liev Schreiber's character fell into the shaft, was taken to the hospital and Leopold was stranded in the future in Stuart's flat instead of being sent right back, giving all the following events a chance to unfold.
I am from spain, and while i was listening to this I was taking a toast just with olive oil for breakfast. It tastes great!
The Warhammer inquisitor and Van Helsing outfit were probably initially inspired by historical witch hunters. Look up Matthew Hopkins. The style is there.
Oh I am so glad to hear others saying positive things about Spirited. It seems like a lot of people think it's really meh but I just loved it, the music is great, the humor really lands, one of the rare movies I can enjoy re-watching more than once or twice.
I caught onto the gimmick of this week's ep pretty fast since Brandon wore the same shirt "last week" and that seemed a fun jab at the time.
the funniest thing about Hugh Jackman I've got is that my work colleague keeps calling him Jack Hughman and I can't stop laughing at that until this day :D
Now I think I'll have to create a character named Jack Human...
Perfect timing for my lunch break!
I'd bet the Helsing costume has some influence from Solomon Kane (a pre superhero puritan vigilante created by Robert E Howard)
I was going to say this! But it might also be that the people behind the film didn't do that much research, and just picked up the WHF version, because it has a bigger cultural weight nowadays.
I'm Spanish and we don't drink olive oil straight up. Sometimes we put it on a plate and pick it up with bread and eat that? but usually we use it to cook or salads (and then do the bread thing with the leftover oil maybe).
This episode should be called the Hugh Jackman love fest. I too love Hugh Jackman. He is marvelous. And your table is really nice too.
I was listening to this episode on Apple Podcasts and I knew I had to come look and the TH-cam comments 😂
Me too lol
Dan should try ghee. It's butter with all the milk solids (lactose, casein, etc.) removed, so all that's left is the oil. It's also involved in the origin of the phrase "butter sometime up".
So weird Brandon not signing then 1/2 way through remembering! 😂
the bit is made even more intense by the actual cut between their conversation and the end :D
Was there an inside joke I missed with the cut?
@@wynq not sure what was inside the cut, but they were constantly teasing talking about the table, and then didn't address it, and it makes it even more ridiculous (and reinforces the not-smooth way they do it) that they add a clip at the end where they again tease talking about it
The prestige and prisoners where both excellent Hugh Jackman movies
The Prestige is genuinely one of my favorite movies.
@@Duiker36 It's a classic.
The reverence for mr jackman😂
I feel like Hugh Jackman was just cast as Kelsier or something.
Oh my God I'd have a heart attack and die and go to heaven and want to come back to earth so I could see him play Kel
The irony is dripping here. And Brandon forgetting to start signing the pages?! Truly, if there was a secret in a secret it would be this. Jackman is our Kelsier.
Don't get my hopes up like that... But now that I am thinking about it yes please lol
So this whole episode is them trolling the guy from Wired, right? Or is Hugh Jackman going to be Kelsier in a Mistborn adaptation….
>So this whole episode is them trolling the guy from Wired, right?
How so? I must have missed the connection.
@@pickpocket293 The reporter had…a bit of a melt down over his dislike of The Greatest Showman and Hugh Jackman when Brandon put on the opening to demo his home theater for the guy.
Well done gentlemen. Well done.
I really didn't expect this podcast to be all about Hugh Jackman but I'm totally here for it 😂
9:00 Ok Dan, here’s how it actually happened from a biologist’s perspective. Early lactose intolerant (i.e. metabolically normal) human groups in the Middle East and Northern Europe started giving children milk from cows and goats as a sort of mom-hasn’t-eaten-in-two-days-and-there’s-no-such-thing-as-baby-formula alternative to breast milk to get through hard times. Using milk as food (even for a small portion of the population) eventually gave way to accidentally letting some spoil in conditions suitable to make cheeses. Protein-rich, hard cheeses not only tasted good, but were also easier to digest than straight up milk for people who were lactose intolerant or older children who were in the process of losing tolerance. After thousands of years of doing this, in both locations (Northern Europe and the Middle East) some lucky kid got a mutation in their genetic code that allowed them to continue to drink milk without making the great boom boom well into adulthood, by continuing to express lactase production in their small intestine throughout adulthood. Because this meant they could turn grass into food so long as there was a cow nearby, these two individuals and their descendants understandably had a reproductive advantage, and it became a useful mutation in our genome. A similar thing happened with palm nuts, although much earlier, in Sub-Saharan Africa.
Haha I love the subtle swipe throughout this episode. :-)
Thank you, Brandon👍
10:00 I'll just say that in Southern Spain the traditional breakfast is an olive oil sandwich with a little bit of sugar, or salt. So, yeah, it is not weird to eat it
They ask because in the US, most Americans have not actually had real olive oil.
Oh man, first time watching "This is Me" the rehearsal version. It was very moving.
The whole table thing was HILARIOUS ! Chapeau
Btw I don't know about Spain, but being Italian I can tell you we do use olive oil a lot more than butter, though tasting it by itself is usually only a thing they offer if you visit the places where it is produced and sold.
I loved the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen graphic novel, but was devastated by the filmed adaptation.
Dan really needs to write a food heist novel!
With recipes.
@@abnunga And with seafood weapons...
45 minutes of apparently preamble into the podcast-- "Before we get to the table..." LOL!
I love so much that they just cannot get to the point in this episode 😂
Reminds me of Too Many Cooks. We should really get to be talking about the table... 🙃
I can answer your lactose intolerance question! Lactase Persistance (the genetic bit that allows people to process lactose), starts about 10,000 years ago in African, European, and Middle East populations around the same time that cows were being domesticated. At this time, over 90% of the population were lactose intolerant, but they all drank milk since it was a sterile source of fluids and also calorie/nutrient dense. Dairy consumption continues to grow across Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, but most people remained lactose intolerant. This is because the effects of lactose intolerance aren't severe enough to lead to significant selection pressure *except* during times of famine and plague. During famine, lactose intolerant people can't extract as many nutrients from dairy, so have higher mortality rates. During plagues, the gastrointestinal issues associated with lactose intolerance move from minor inconvenience to extremely dangerous, so again they have higher mortality rates.
The aesthetics of the Van Helsing movie are definitely and unabashedly influenced by the 1985 Vampire Hunter D series' aesthetics.
Astute commenter, here! Both Van Helsing's look AND the Warhammer witch hunter were both pretty clearly inspired by Solomon Kane.
So Hugh is in the Cosmere … ‘elevating material,’ ‘legitimately fantastic,’ high praise -I feel like we’re getting buttered/marjoramed up.
I agree with Dan on greatest Showman.
Just wanted to mention 2 great Hugh Jackman movies The Prestige (my favorite) and Prisoners
The Prestige is such an epically good film
@@aerynmusick4548 possibly my favorite Nolan film, genius
@@yasielromero8236 Batman vs. Wolverine.
I'm Spanish and I never drank olive oil. But it's great for cooking and salads.
The entire hugh jackman thing is so hilarious lmao
Sometimes a table is a table. Sometime a table is a metaphor.
As an spanish person, drinking oil is not how we use it. We actually use it for example to eat it with a slice of bread and tomato (catalan food) called Pantumaca. And we use olive oil for our normal cuisine to fry things, or to put it on salads, but we dont drink it like wine.
So Patrick Stewart and Hugh were technically tied in Logan for longest running comic book character.
Frying eggs in butter should produce the most delicious chemical reaction- the maillard reaction. When using oil, which is faster, healthier, and possibly adds another layer of taste, one way to achieve this is to heat the oil just until it almost smokes, sprinkle very little powdered suger, and immidietly add eggs.
you get an omlet with a lovely crisp brown bottom and an inviting yellow-orange top.
Wtf did I just watch?
Was absolutely baffled by what was happening and then 15 minutes in noticed the Pan poster behind Brandon and really thought they were going to swivel the camera around at some point and Hugh Jackman was going to be there. It did not remotely feel like a plausible thing that could happen but then it just kept going and going and going and I was like "is... is Hugh Jackman going to show up?"
(A total aside, but I imagine Michael Keaton returning as Batman in the new Flash movie will mean he takes the record for person who's played a superhero "longest" away from either Jackman or Patrick Stewart.)
Good shout re: Michael Keaton!
Not sure if there are any rules guarding this (e.g. movie only) but John Wesley Shipp played Jay Garrick Flash in 1990 and is the same character on the CW version of the show now. Could give Keaton a run for his money.
I’m reading Dracula for the first time via Dracula Daily where they email the story as it happens. I think tomorrow is the first entry, should be a lot of fun!
As someone who uses butter to cook my eggs, I can say that I honestly don’t care that you use oil to cook yours.