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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- ooooooh a minecraft one. that's new.
Yes, instead of food, I decided that minecraft is the one. There is a lot of toxicity between the versions.
spoilers: neither Nick, nor Miles and von Karma won
because that's why
also, I'm stupid and I always forget to link the website: objection.lol/
The play list:
• The Arguments (Objecti...
Fun Fact:
When I was 12, like years ago, i used to play Minecraft: Pocket Editon. Ofc its bedrock, nothing unusual. Until one day, I saw a youtuber that was playing Minecraft Java with the combat update. I was like, "wow. I want to play that version on the phone"
Mmmm what a time
yea joe did that too :trol:
Is that real?
@@Honzecki yes that is me
.
@@Real1230 okay
For Me Java Is Suck Because I Don't Have PC lol
Alternative versions: adults crying in courtroom over a block game
perfect
Yep.
p e r f e c t i o n
As a player who has played both versions, (6000 hours on bedrock, 3000 hours on java), java makes switching versions easy, and has better mechanics and servers, however bedrock is definitely much less resource demanding. Although Java is smoother, Bedrock is also quite good. However, the modding capabilities of Java and commands are definitely much better, but Bedrock modding (addons) is definitely advancing and improving.
u can use sodium on Java which in my experience makes FPS similar or better than bedrock, but in vanilla yes java is absolutely shocking in optimization
agreed but im a java player that played bedrock before, now im a java player
“Both, both is good”
that sentence about java being smoother is so funny to me.
runs at 0fps
@@mysingingmonstersfan1023 Smoother as in gameplay, I alread stated that Bedrock is less resource demanding
I like how they basically come to the court every day to argue about a random topic
not gonna lie it’s even funnier that they also wear the same outfits too, and they still whip eachother, throw coffee, slam desks and everything
Both versions are good for their own reasons. I personally tend to prefer Java because it "feels" better to me, but that could be because I grew up playing it. Play whichever version you prefer, it really doesn't matter, especially with Java and Bedrock crossplay servers existing. I love Fransizka slamming the desk every 5 seconds though.
Bedrock controls are clunky and floaty, and the user interface is confusing
@@consume_arsenic that's purely based on which you're used to.
Java ui confused the hell out of me and combat felt heavy
But it's pretty normal
I’m used to bedrock.
But javas definitely better.
Yeah you are right they are good for different things... so anyway bedrock su-
Can the next one be "orange juice on ice cream", it would seem like a good and funny argument
Dude
I am gonna throw up
@@ap_802 whats wrong with that food combo?
@@MsShowtime you need to be locked up
@@Fisher1941 ._.
@@MsShowtime nah I actually think it's fine might even try it sometime
As a bedrock player,i like java a lot,but i am still happy with bedrock! :D
Same
Same :D
Same
Me who has both: *give me the popcorn*
@@C0metm 🍿__(' - ') here you are
Bedrock would have won if Nick told them about potion cauldrons
And that you can have different colors in that thing which I forgot the name.
@@MariusBoss11458 you mean dye colored water? plus you can color leather armor with that water
@@gwapodan3736 Yup. That's what I meant. I wish you could Dye Iron, Diamond, Netherite etc. Armor too though. Don't you think it's getting old seeing the same color for every playthrough and stuff? I wish that was a thing for Bedrock and Java. I guess you could say. Every Version.
@@MariusBoss11458 add new color dyes for everyone and wait till you see extremely detailed and colored wool builds
@@gwapodan3736 Beautiful.
I can see its a debate for Vanilla Minecraft. Dont even mess with Java if you want to discuss Modding and servers. Why weren't mods discussed which is obviously Javas strong suit.
Or the whole “Minecoins” thing? Or Java letting you easily play old versions of the game?
@@pinksquirrel777 thats only a concern if you play on public servers
@@pinksquirrel777 who the fuck would want to, that takes all the fun out the game. Its like buying infinite keys on subway surfers.
There are acutally some addons that are better than mods
I'm not saying they're better than mods but to be fair addons are getting better with each update
There's:
The kid that likes Java
The kid that like Bedrock
The kid that likes both but the other two doesn't freakin care
I'm the one that likes both
I'm the one who enjoys the Xbox 360 version
"I'll have you know I graduated at the top of my class in the navy seals and -"
There should be an version where everybody can play on, the good stuff from java and bedrock is there meaning it wont fucking suck choosing which to choose
why not just have one version with the best things from both the pre existing ones instead of having multiple versions
@@no1ce688 *1 month ago*
@@no1ce688 it was 1 month ago, which is meant that its still not available on the game, although, ik mc slowly updates, and dont start a discussion/argument here i was just telling
Ideally Minecraft would have Java’s better servers, bedrock’s ability to crossplay. Java’s less buggy, higher quality gameplay, Bedrock’s unique bridging mechanic. Java’s cool and weird features like breaking bedrock and going on nether roof, better red stone in general, some stuff from bedrock. Java’s added modding and world capabilities with bedrock’s easy to use controls and interface.
@@no1ce688 Microsoft made gamepass ages ago, and that doesent allow Java and bedrock to crossplay, it just means if you have xbox game pass you also get java edition for free.
I imagine all of these memes as part of the same show, where these guys are basically chilling after works hours getting into various Shenanigans and debates. It’s pretty fun
Hey, Wanna hear something that will make bedrock players win?
“Piston can move chests”
*All other parts of redstone break*
@@graygravity3856 moving chests by piston is impossible for java
@@graygravity3856 plus its useful, even mumbo jumbo says its amazing
@@Lhaj3 Yeah that's the problem
@@Lhaj3 I'm not relearning redstone just so I can make contraptions on a separate platform
Some more arguments for Bedrock Edition:
Redstone is DIFFERENT, not worse; I can't figure out anything with pistons on Java edition.
You can add new items or mobs really easy on bedrock edition.
There are several good bugs that are reproducable, such as de-solidifying the top half of your body(allowing you to walk through blocks!)
Speed on low-end devices: I have huge improvements on speed with bedrock than Java, so... Also. Installing a mod is not an option, as I want to keep everything "vanilla".
The commands are way easier to make on Bedrock edition, because you do not need to worry about NBT data!!!
1. Lack of BUD almost ruins Bedrock redstone, although I will say that being able to move chests is very cool
2. It’s add-ons vs mods, they’re entirely different systems and there are very easy ways to mod minecraft
3. Bugs are bad and if you want them, use aforementioned mods
4. Installing e.g optifine does not remove the vanilla experience whatsoever
5. You can do way more with commands on Java because of NBT, and if you don’t want to use NBT, you don’t have to!
@LiamWins Haha, sure. Good points, though I think I can come up with some quick arguments.
1] There are ways to detect block updates, though. We have observers and those torch-burnout bud detectors.
2] I am not familiar with modding software for Minecraft, but I am able to make an add-on with several new sets of armor, new items, block, food and some weapons in under an hour, including all of the texturing and testing. Is that possible with the Java nodding methods?
3] I agree that bugs are bad and that mods/add-ons should be what implements them.
4] Sorry, by "vanilla", I mean completely non modded. The other users of my computer would get annoyed, and I do not want that. Plus, I am not the root, so I would need to likely break the computer (I know of ways to remove the limits, but they are not the best and have some side effects).
5] Ah, yes... Commands. With an add-on + commands, we can do quite a lot. For example, there are add-ons that can tell you when you jump, when you sneak, when you left/right click... And if we combine those with scoreboard and custom items and entities, we can have a rather large array of options. Perhaps it is not as good as NBT data, but I know of ways to make stuff like the Wynncraft class system work, as well as creating custom movement for mobs. Though, that stuff is still a little buggy.
But we can all agree that minecoins is garbage cause of cash grab servers like pixel paradise, but the market shop is ok cause some of the things is free
@@benedictoiiisantos2674 absolutely
@@benedictoiiisantos2674 pixel paradise ain't called money grabbing its called p2w
I actually really like them both, they all have their own things that make the game run better and unique concepts that actually make them both fun to play.
now this is just hate on Phoenix's opinion..
his opinion is valid, too bad it sucks
@@usernametaken017 no
@@GalileoYarn Yes
@@LANCER_EVO_V no
“Phoenix”
Me: MINECRAFT IS MINECRAFT
Minecraft : Bedrock
With more features than Java : ah yes.
Why bedrock is worse:
Minecoins.
why java sucks 1.9 + pvp slow bridging dont be like that, MINECRAFT IS MINECRAFT
@WesamLOL srill you wont get to enjoy new features
Personally, I think both versions are good. I play with friends on bedrock, but I mostly play on java. One thing to say is that I played the console legacy editions (basically ancient bedrock) growing up and yet as soon as I touched java, I immediately preferred it
Yeah they are good for different things... anyway bedrock su-
Nobody talks about the 1.13 bedrock with the minigames or the tutorial worlds, that one was the best for me
This isn't Bedrock Edition, is Legacy Edition
“Redstone on bedrock sucks”
Yeah, try moving chests in java nerds
Carpet mod
@@AsymmetricalAce java requires mods to be good, no one plays it vanilla and likes it without optifine, forge, or fabric
@@Moonstriker2514 I do
Minecraft bedrock: runs WAY. WAY BETTER
Minecraft java: better at literally everything else.
And I guess the being able to put blocks in front of you but thats about it.
Also that it’s easier to play bedrock cuz you don’t need a pc
As an avid player of both its gotta be java I mean the elytra is much more useful and the redstone too, plus I love 1.9 combat
What von karma broke into the navy seal thing oh god
The mob despawning thing doesnt happen now unless there are new updates, also passive mobs not despawning sounds like a nightmare Tbh, it seems in bedrock it has rule where dependning on how much ypu interact with a mob it will despawn or not, sheep I dont touch despawn sometimes but sheep I do dont, sometimes bedrock does glitch in new updates and something my despawn but I'm sure have sometimes java has the same issue
Well, you see, the way java works is that mobs passive or agressive will despawn automatically if they're outside of rendered chuncks, unless a players puts a nametag on them in which case they will not despawn.
Minecraft java effectively allows you to choose which mobs will despawn and which won't.
@@user-le8ul4nr5t same with bedrock however as I noted if I say sheer a sheep it stays maybe it's just coincidence tho
Passive mobs do not despawn in Java. They never do. There is no need in name tags for them
@@godofmusic9585 oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for telling me (-:
@@user-le8ul4nr5t
I'm with Maya. As someone who's been playing the game with what I only recently learned were leaked developer builds ever since it had originally released, I love Java, and definitely prefer it entirely for modding. But I prefer playing Bedrock for newer updates because of the fact that I can play with ANY of my friends on later updates because Bedrock is the more widely played of the two (due to being more readily available, as Wright says), that said, I only use Java for 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 and nothing else. To this day I haven't played 1.16 onwards on Java Edition.
On bedrock you can also make block bridges easier while walking in them (no need to crouch and look backwards)
The next one should be (soft serve) ice cream and fries
At the end of the day, both sides (including me being a Bedrock player) agree that Java is better.
potion farms.
As someone who actually genuinely enjoys Milk with Ice, I can say that I am currently held in Maximum Security
Ok but for real can we just accept that both games are good in their own way?
yeah but java is better
@@bellamywestbrook5264 no its not. Both games are equally as developed and well made. After all. Java is laggy, buggy and doesn't have easy cross-play like bedrock does. Java is more of a testing ground for new minecraft in my eyes, even if its the original. Hopefully the two can cross platform so Java players can get pushable tile entities and potions in cauldrons, and us bedrock players can get better combat and the ability to place multiple blocks in the same area. Thank you, and I rest my case.
@@emeraldhamster ok but java isnt laggy but i guess your pc is shit
@@emeraldhamster bedrock has mine coins which automatically make it worse who wants to pay money when you already bought the game?
@@neonspark5084 you legit don't even need to use them. They are not forced at all, and hold up the marketplace, which gives bedrock players a chance to buy unique skin items AND cool maps which they could also download free of charge. The marketplace gives developers a better chance of making profit off of their moding, designing and overall work in the market place. Meanwhile Java moders, map makers and skin designers are unable to profit easily off of their work. Minecoins not being obtainable without using real life money IS indeed a problem, but it is a good way for mojang to profit so they could pay their workers better for their hard work and development on all the features they are asked to add. Also, before you mention minecraft isn't free, keep in mind the mobile version is 5 bucks and that cuts out the funds of buying it on other platforms, such as console or windows.
I feel like Real is venting through Franziska-
I was waiting for maya to say Terraria
It's rlly good ngl
Tbh bedrock probably has more easter eggs than java
so? java is better
Underrated asf
1:18 ''But is the worst version anyone has ever play''
What about New Nintendo 3DS Edition lol
Pi Edition
Fact: Java is more polished and has more popular TH-camrs, bedrock has FAR more players, the ability to cross platform play and has FAR more smaller TH-camrs.
people are forgetting that you can push container blocks with pistons in bedrock edition
As a person who can only play bedrock who REALLY wants Java, I’m gonna have to go with Edgeworth and von Karma.
I only want to play on Java coz of banner shields
pirate minecraft
Well, I've been playing both versions my whole life, so there are certainly things I like about each. I like to play with mods a lot, so I tend to choose Java, but I also really like the friend list system in Bedrock, where you can join your friends worlds with a click of one button without creating any servers. Also if you put any addons or texture packs in your Bedrock world, the person joining can simply download them on the spot.
there's a really handy mod for java that adds the easy joining to java
I'm more of a Minecraft Education Edition person myself. Yes I want a heated debate in the comments.
Objection, That doesnt count as a version!
OBJECTION, that is a split off of BEDROCK edition
Education Edition has bleach and works on macOS
Edgeworth: then why does nobody play on it on TH-cam?
Stampy:
I’m sorry bro but his videos rarely reach 100k anymore (within like, 2 weeks)
I play bedrock and I'm the person who's agreeing with Maya but I also think Java is better because of the quick updates and more detailed mods
MODS DONT MATTER WHEN YOU DONT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THEM. MODS FUCKING DONT MATTER
@@audivivocem L
@@audivivocem lol
mods are not that hard to use in java
just download download the mod you want to play, download forge that is the same version of your mod, and then done installing the forge, and then open the forge version file, and drag the mod inside the mod file of forge version
and basicly you can start play
your computer should be able to run atleast like 5 mod, cuz mod don't really make your game lag that much, unless you download like 100 mod or playing a freaking mod pack(that mostly include over 200 mod)
im surprised they didn't mention the really shitty microtransactions
Java=better servers,like hypixel, more help for content creators, better Redstone.
Bedrock=better survival and more opportunities to play with friends, has the majority of players(look it up if you don't believe me)
Like how she already beats up the table in the first second of video
I'm taking Bedrock's side
Maya was speaking facts tho
I say java
@Konkus :D bruh
@Konkus :D Imagine bitching over someone playing a different version
After spending a lot time on both it depends, you can change versions, you have the f3 menu, your offhand is more useful than on bedrock, you can use doors for early underwater caving without potions, however bridging is easier on bedrock, and you can do the boat clutch if you hop out of the boat before it hits the ground, you can take no fall damage while riding a horse unlike java, and multiplayer can be done without using a server or trying to do stuff on lan.
Java and bedrock are both equally good
*CHANGE MY MIND*
I can't change your mind
@Among Sus
Is that supposed to make me think java and bedrock aren't equally good
@Among Sus bro chill.. That was just a joke
@@cai.mp4 so was the reply
@@nickkovacs6025 calm down I don't wanna make trouble, so sorry
Two words, guys...
Salmon and tridents
I play both java and bedrock
I just play bedrock multiplayer when I'm bored since I like the prophunt in the hive
Same with death run
And I only use java edition to also play on multiplayer s to play on hypixel and just pvp
Also testing mods
Hive mc is the best bedrock server imo they work realllllllllllllllllllllllly hard for their updates
@@lightning_7 You said it, their LTMs are up there.
"redstone"
me a bedrock redstone engineer:
You are *_high_*
The real questions is: Why does Minecraft have different versions anyway? Most games don’t-
Java was the original version, but can't be ported to consoles or (at least easily) ported to phones, so they needed a more universal version to put on those platforms.
@@xman10110 That makes more sense lol. Thanks!
for us modded players theres really only one option
and then that option gets split yet again between forge and fabric
imagine sodium and iris shaders with pixelmon
instead we have optifine and magnesium
I prefer Java for sure, but I'm not gonna argue about it holy frick
What's the difference between Java and Bedrock?
Both those editions are same, expect some physics, bugs and etc
Bedrock gets the updates later but HEY at least we are on more platforms
Yeah! And we have waterlogged rails.
Why would i want to play on the other inferior plataforma?
@@fernanchistera3394 If you’re out, mobile. Plus, you can link the account.
@@milkshakedraws6944 😴😴😴
@@fernanchistera3394 This is why bedrock players don’t like Java players
"I can play minecraft in the courtroom"
In all seriousness though bedrock is pretty good for casual players. Let's just hope a few years from now the two versions become almost identical with only a few minor differences
I think bedrock has its advantages like some features tnt physics cheaper shading better combat and some elements like tying rope to a fence and it’s performance is usually better than Java with better render distance but both are noice
I tried crafting a boat in Minecraft Bedrock and after that I became a Java player
That is the down side......can’t I just not make a shovel every time I wanna go into the ocean
the despawn bug was fixed a long time ago and the redstone isn't a bug in be the difference in redstone behavior is because the different code languages basically
Wasn't expecting to see the Seals Rant here, damn that throws back memories.
As someone who has played Java edition and Pocket edition, it is a struggle to get used to the switch from Java
Bedrock has more survival features like: cauldrons filled with potions, cave sounds outside of caves and most importantly BABY SQUIDS
I like the redstone bugs in bedrock it’s what lets most of my contraptions work
Bro forgot all the feature difference’s
And in Bedrock you can kill other mobs in water including all of them and rain, which means you 1 shot them and you can spam tap it.
I like how Phoenix tries not to swear 😂
Both versions have good things, and their downsides:
Bedrock
Pros:
-More and better animations for enemies and other creatures
-Armor stands have arms, which can help in maps and for saving space in chests, as you can hold your weapons in them.
-No cooldown
-The sharpness enchantment adds +1 damage to the weapon with each level
-You have an in-game player customization menu, and you can unlock more options through achievements
-Friend system: You can add players to a list, and visit them when they are online, without the need of a LAN world or server
-There is a shop where you can buy maps, texture packs, skins, or a mix from the 3
-You can also unlock emotes to use in game
You can play this version in consoles, mobile devices and pc
-In mobile devices, you can hit, put blocks or activate devices and mobs from any part of the screen
Cons:
-Lag
-Less comands, and you must type the command manually, with no way to select the option faster like in Java
-The pause menu doesn't stop the game, it just opens a menu
-You must buy the pack in the shop to have music
-The Coins for the shop must be bought with real money
-No custom world options, like super-flat worlds
-A big number of errors
Java:
Pros:
-Less lag than Bedrock
-The pause menu stops completely the game, unless you're in a multiplayer world
-Bigger list of commands
-Secret mobs, like the Giant and Illusioner
-Safer mod download sites and launchers
-You can put any item in your offhand slot, not just arrows, totems of undying, and shields like in Bedrock
-Hardcore and Spectator modes
-Customizable super-flat and single biome worlds
-Music implemented by default
-Sweeping, you can attack more than one enemy at the same time with swords
Cons:
-Cooldown, which can be anoying when fighting a big number of mobs or a boss
-Wither boss is less of a challenge than in Bedrock
-You can only obtain Armor Stands with arms through commands
-You must open a LAN world or enter a server to play with friends
-Less animations than Bedrock
-Axe deals more damage than swords(makes fighting Vindicators and Piglin Brutes harder)
-Achievements don't do anything more than mark your progress inside a world
That was all I could think of
I have played both versions of the game before posting this comment, so I have my own experience with them. Personally, I think both versions are good
-Ofc it's Java
-Java
It was the moment when I liked the video
atleast they didn’t talk about THE DS VERSION
Edgeworth and Franziska: Bedrock sucks
Me being a bedrock player: *cri*
I like Java better mainly because of the fact of how easy it is to switch versions. I’m mainly a 1.8 player, so I play on Hypixel a lot. Unfortunately, bedrock doesn’t have Hypixel and other godly servers. Besides, the combat update isn’t even that bad. It introduced a better mechanic to the game. Overall, bedrock is cool, but Java is definitely my dsvotite
If you can make a video on java vs bedrock commands and map making, that would be god tier
PS: i hate bedrock
Oh no the battlefield just moved to the comment section !
Fallen trees, I rest my case.
1:26 Because youtubers and streamers need servers, plugins, mods for Minecraft. And I think that pure vanilla survival in Bedrock will be not so good to prosuce for TH-cam because everyone will get bored. Bedrock is really new, and is written on entirely different programming language(Mods use Java class files to modify Minecraft, but C++ can't just accept some outer-world Lua(scripting language, which is oftenly used as a modding language WITH C++), program has to have a proper modding support). So the problem is in the lack of content for youtubers because Bedrock is newer than Java
When I saw the argument I was like:minecraft is minecraft
Karma and Edge: bedrock sucks
Nick: but bedrock has BIG SALMON
Karma and Edge: *understandable, have a great day.*
Phoenix:you fool bedrock have baby squid
1:29 bro there are like 10+ youtubers who play bedrock
True minecraft gamers:MINECRAFT IS MINECRAFT
Legends say they're still arguying to this day
They played it smart, the creator of this would’ve been smoked by the other version if he chose one
Maya : Minecraft is minecraft
Me : Never in my life has there been someone who understands me better
I play both versions.
They're pretty much equal, but whenever I play one I miss a feature from the other.
When I play Bedrock I wish I could put anything in my Offhand.
When I play Java I wish I could Dive into water or place blocks around corners.
“Because it’s the worst Version anyone played”. Minecraft pi edition : am I a joke to you
another reason for both is good is that
minecraft added crossplay so java and bedrock can play together
At the end Von Karma acted like one of those toxic people who say Java is better and Bedrock sucks but in reality their both really good
In bedrock, there are more items
In Java, there are more mods
So basically, you can explore more in bedrock
And in Java you can get creative
none are good, none are bad argument ended.
education edition: allow me to introduce myself
Bedrock has the tiny little worlds which bring me joy, but im too reliant on my commands and ability to summon anything to my specifications in my creative worlds to tolerate using a controller. Thats just how i play though
Everybody knows that the best version is Apple Watch Minecraft.
"Bedrock is the worst version."
Education edition: Thank you
Average Java Player
Vs
Average Bedrock Player
Vs
Minecraft Enjoyer
Bedrock is a lot more accessible, not everyone has a Pc, people just wanna play Minecraft man…
Bedrock has vanilla ghost blocks. And items that need support don't. As well as the ability to prevent water or lava from going past a certain point. And all of this is done with the help of the structure void, which you're able to place items on and of which lava and water can't pass. It's essentially a walkthrough barrier. Java also has a structure void, but it's literally just an air block. On top of that, Bedrock can give their armor stands weapons and shields, allowing for you to both place your items with your armor and have more possibilities for builds. And the cherry on top: Potion cauldrons. While, yes, Java is less buggy and is more refined, Bedrock has more useful features.