THE EMAIL THAT EXPLAINS A LOT! - WEMBLEY CUP F2 DRAMA EXPLAINED
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- Here's the email we received recently about The 2018 Wembley Cup which relates to the F2 Freestylers behaviour and their accusations of cheating etc. Hopefully this can finally close this chapter! ► Subscribe: bit.ly/subSPEN
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This email turned some heads I’m not going to lie. Thus ends the F2 Wembley Cup Trilogy of videos. Onto other subjects now! What do you want to see us talk about next?
Give us an update on hashtag, with your expectations going forward and your prospects for the team
This is CRAZY BEEF
The WhatsApp group chat from the Wembley Cup
Rate every Premier league squad, transfer business, predictions etc
@@freddiephipps1335 yes
Dennis Bergkamp once said: I used to come early to training to impress the manager but when I arrived a 14 year old Jeremy Lynch has already been there doing skill shots and weird stuff while lying on the ground with the ball on his head
haha
That was good
Liam Talks Football hi liam
and i saw his ball control that was better than mine
Now that’s what you call swaz tekkers
Genuinely Spencer transitioning to making his videos about giving us a peak behind the curtain of what goes on in youtube would be great
peek*
@aNHdusu pek*
I'm not very familiar with either of them but I recon we should hear both sides of the story before concluding anything
*pkek
Why do you have a picture of a chest x ray as your profile picture lol
Not on from the refs. We could've made it 2-0.
🤣
Definitely cam sends it to Stephen de bruyne type of pass as big ste smashes it into top bins after being told there is a year 9 watching
Watch ur videos sometimes
😂
Ref throws a pen in for handball when it clearly wasn't just to wind 'em up.
Imagine they played the extra 3 minutes and XO scored again
Gives em a pen for the laughs.
In an alternate universe. Brian got a hatrick with 3 assists from Stephen😅
Spencer FC is back
Hashtag Harry gbnf
Why not fanatic harry
🐐
@@Fearoffalling807 because hashtagharry is eternal
Hey Harry
I was the referee that called the match short. Basically, I was overwhelmed by the complete tekkers this swaz lynch was doing. Best iv seen on the ball, better than Henry.
Don’t worry mate. Anyone would’ve done the same
IC Jenkins respect that, you must’ve had a headache from all that tekkers
Ok Mr 10 year old
Mohammad Mir Moosa ur actually so sad mate
Mohammad Mir Moosa on a scale of 1 to 10 how good do you think Jeremy is on the ball (no one help him)
Who else remembers when a 14 year old Jeremy lynch gave the arsenal invincibles their first loss by himself
Didn't go down as a loss though, would be unfair for the invincibles
Bro you lot are just seduced by this guy's talks like obviously seen they're acting like good guys.
@@mohammadmirmoosa8070 f2 fanboy
Mohammad Mir Moosa fanboy alert
Unfortunately the Ref hated Thierry so cut the game off short
The ref spent less than 30 minutes with the F2 and hated them that much he screwed them over haha!
Moral of the story : be nice to people :)
So true 😂
Yeah I agree but even so, you shouldn’t cheat. He’s as bad as them
@@williamdrury-smith3972 Why? nothing has been proven it's one man's claims, a man who has already painted himself as untrustworthy because in his version of events he was complicit and even contributed to the refs alleged actions.
ToProud TooAdmitMitsake something still seems off though. If it is true then it’s really disappointing
@@williamdrury-smith3972 I get that, but it's innocent until proven guilty, Seb was right to shut Spencer up, saying they have evidence when all they really have is one person's word.
Robert Pires once said that even he thought wenger was delusional for picking him over jeremy swazza.
Joshua Fryer yeah kinda obvious though, Pires is terrible compared to swazz
Colm Rich it’s a joke
@Colm Rich What teak do you support if you hate Arsenal?
Abz 16 Teak wood
Like the worst possible thing an independent old immature man could say
Serialising this Wembley Cup drama is actually genius bud. I've enjoyed this way more than anything on Netflix ever.
Hi Jim love your vids
Amazing videos
Love you videos
hi jim love ur vids man got ur season recap song stuck in my head ur so good
You haven’t watched Gotham have you
*saw it late at night*
me thinking 10pm,11pm,12am
seb: *7pm*
Joshua Fryer yep
Hes such a Dad i love it
😂
I think he said that was when it was sent. He probs saw it at like midnight
7pm is late for a ‘work’ email
Anyone else want them to show the WhatsApp group?
ya
I think it's time they would want to move on from this drama now.
They said there was absolutely nothing in there
victerious world They need the clout and views bad, especially with Hashtag’s season starting soon. That is why Spenser is wearing the Hashtag kit!
Sam Saunders and?
As a referee, that is currently refereeing senior level, I want to thoroughly apologise for that referees actions! I want you guys to report him to the FA. We cannot have referees like him whom cheats! It’s not on at all!
No, f2 suck
thats match fixing
Shay Giles Absolutely, it is. I understand clearly why F2 was frustrated. As a player, i would of been frustrated at the referee. As a ref, you are paid to do the full minutes as instructed. It’s a job at the end of the day.
@@Mohamed-pj7sx as Spencer said, cards should've been given to the f2 but to end a game 2 min earlier due to personal reasons are unexcused
Referee here myself, I completely agree with you, it’s absolutely disgusting
Rumour is Jeremy swaz is Lionel Messi’s replacement at barca with a trade deal of $200 million
Jake Wilson nah barca wish they have the budget
That’s like selling a ferarri and then replacing it with a corsa
uVuVuEvUeNyEtUvUeVuE oSaS no it’s the other way round, swaz jezza is the Ferrari and Messi is the corsa
@@alexclennell8940 and pogba is the buggati
@@msmjsiajdgdhsjajahgshsjaje8990 F1 fans would take the Corsa.
What the ref did was wrong. But jizza and bill could’ve just agreed to play the 3 minutes ffs
In my opinion it wouldn’t make a difference if the game had continued playing those extra minutes could have been key for an equaliser, that’s purely because of momentum but once the game was over starting it again for 3 minutes wouldn’t help.
He did nothing wrong at this point it's all conjecture and allegations. The person who exposed him has 0 credibility.
Go back to school kid
Mohammad Mir Moosa stop being an F2 fanboy
@@conradgray17 he can support who he wants?
SHOUOUT TO YOU GUYS! Absolute legends & two of the nicest guys on the scene! ❤️
love you too
You want some chips?
Insert wow meme
Lmao
Wow
wow
@zak 🇺🇲🇱🇷🇬🇭
@geordie boy you just made yourself look a tit
I remember Spencer taking a break from TH-cam and splitting with Alex, im sure people questioning his integrity and trying to undermine him on his own channel had an affect on that - ultimately Spencer could have lost a year of progress in his life because of a refereeing decision to cut a game short by 2 minutes - Sounds crazy but shows the butterfly effect of life.
I'm glad Spencer and everyone connected to him/his channel has come out stronger from this experience and I'm sure its therapeutic for him to finally get things off his chest
Wish you all the best with your future endeavors - you've always pushed the boundaries with content creating on TH-cam and I hope that we see more ingenious ideas in the upcoming months/years!
Respect, don't go changing 👏 👏 👏
Respect 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Rozafi Sheikh well said
You need to get out more having the time to put a comment like this😂
alex carter cleanest oxymoron I’ve seen in a while there kiddo
@@alexcarter7280 literally took me 2 minutes after I watched the video - my biggest worry was using the correct effect and affect lol
Shout out to Ray Wilkins for being Sidemen FC gaffer in the first game and RIP Ray ❤
Did he die
Alfie Tompkins if he’s said rip ray don’t you think it’s obvious ffs
Alfie Tompkins nah he just moved to Spain
@@boetwh9813 what happened
what happened
The next thing you want us to chat about is....👇🏻?
How much of a bellend, manlikehaks, is
Seb On Golf premier league predictions
Seb On Golf or true geordie incident
GSB
Best people you have worked with?
Alright mate, how you doin x
Hi wizzy
Is the ref a fraud Wizzy?
Fraudulent refereeing
Go like this mans vid if you breath OXYGEN
Where s paper talk u fraud
"When i grow up i wanna have as much *swaz* as Jeremy Lynch"
-Pele maybe
Pele maybe, lmfao 🤣
I think you guys were meant to podcast. I legit feel as if I’m in the room. Anyone else??
No
No
No
No
No
So glad I started watching Spencer again and going to watch Hashtag United’s new journey!
Great to have you along for the ride Nicolas!
Spencer FC good lad
Me too!
Remember Bergkamps infamous interview when he left Arsenal
“I could never get over not being better on the ball that 16 year old swaz man Jeremy Lynch, the biggest regret in my career”
I actually love how genuine and honest these guys are and how there not just agreeing with what the email said and how they don’t agree with the actions and how they want to sort the situation out they’re so proper and professional about the situation 🙌🏼
These podcasts are great keep doing them Spencer!!!
I would rather take a dizzy skiller in jazza than a prime Henry for my team in the 03/04 season.
Mohammad Mir Moosa why are you spamming is this the only thing you have to do in your life🤣🤣
Seeing the other teams reactions to that XO goal sort of tells you something.
Anyone else love listening to these 2 lads and hope they keep these videos talking about stuff going?
“Don’t go changing” - thanks spence, your channel will always be a big part in my childhood.
People forget that refs are human. No one goes to work wanting to be abused. That doesn’t justify what he did though.
Tbh, no one wants to play a football match if the ref is going to cheat during the match
@@stephenstokes4931 What?
@@VexFS what?
@@stephenstokes4931 ...
@@VexFS what do you want?
I would like to hear from the referee - for him to “want” f2 to lose something must have been pretty bad. What if something was said to the ref pre match? If he felt harassed pre match there’s nothing no one he can go to either. If it was during the game than 100% it should have been dealt with yellow/ red cards - not like this. Shocking either way but those F2 lads can make even the most patient ppl mad angry and I’m not surprised they swung a ref against them.
Doesn’t matter he has a job to do as a ref
Loving this transition into new content. Your insights into football are fascinating. Love the work ethic and the vids are really great! Keep it up both of you
I hope you keep doing this kind of video format because its a good look behind the curtain on the football/TH-cam world from 2 people who are actually going to tell the truth and are passionate about the subjects they talk about
Seriously you two come across as the most genuine,honest people. You both do your parents proud
I am a referee at youth level! This is a disgrace and has brought up shame on the whole of us referees. Thank you for going through this spen and seb and separating him from other referees including myself because I know many adult referees who do the job brilliantly that don’t deserve to be classed as match fixers.
What is a disgrace there is 0 proof just one person's account, you're a disgrace for guilty by social media trial. It's all hearsay the person offered a version of events 2 years late and destroyed his own credibility in the process.
@Aaron Williams What are you talking about "it isn't less accurate", if you are relying on a witness statement then of course it can be perceived that way if the witnesses character is called in to question. There are protections in place to stop irrelevant evidence of bad character being submitted however there are two main exceptions.
1. Has to do with the alleged facts of the offence with which the defendant is charged, or
2. Is evidence of misconduct in connection with the investigation of prosecution of that offence”.
There are also many other gateways this type of evidence can be admissible such as admissible under gateway (c) as ‘important explanatory evidence’.
Anything that falls outside of section 98 bad character meaning is governed by section 101, or more commonly known as the seven gateways.
The witness statement of someone directly implicated in the original offence is often going to come under extreme scrutiny and that not only ruins the credibility of the witness but also can make the evidence appear inaccurate.
@Aaron Williams It's not common sense at all, what you're saying is what the public would think, I am talking about what the defence would push. Their job when there is only a witness statement with no corroborating evidence which at this point those are the facts of this case so their job is not to care about what is true or false because that may never be established, their job is to call in to question the witnesses credibility and to make their evidence be perceived as inaccurate and unreliable. You're confusing what can be proven in law vs what potentially happened in reality, those two things are in some cases very different.
As it currently stands the case has no damning evidence so the defences job is to call in to disrepute the alleged facts and the accuracy of information being provided. It doesn't matter if its actually inaccurate it is just about how you can make it appear based on the evidence available, in a case with more evidence you would be able to establish true or false but in this case the best defence is to attack the prosecutions case due to the lack of evidence and the age of the case.
You are right about the general public holding back their opinion but if you understand law you can take in all the evidence to assess the case as it progresses exactly as the defence would do.
@Aaron Williams If you question the accuracy of what I say then simply search the sections I provided it's not like I've just put my opinion with no source I've put the sections and clauses that validate what I'm saying about exceptions in relation to bad character evidence.
@@toproudtooadmitmitsake1842 di kc
To Spencer and Seb, thank you for all you guys have done for football and for me. I have watched # since day one and I Will be forever tankfull for all the hard work
I love the podcast content rn. Very nice to listen to as I multi-task. I still wish there was a bit of FIFA in the future like it used to be, but I understand that people change and explore different areas. Love the videos!
Fair play to you, Spencer, for being fully transparent, apologising on behalf of the event, and more importantly maintaining dignity and professionalism throughout. You have remained fully committed to the truth throughout, despite all the nonsense you've had thrown your way, and that's why I (and I'm sure every other fan of yours) love you mate. You always give considered, rational, mature thoughts and responses to situations, especially controversial ones, so fair play to you. Viva la Spence
He's literally just painted the ref as guilty based on one person's account with no evidence, he's the complete opposite of what you said, even Seb pulled him up in the video, so self serving.
@@toproudtooadmitmitsake1842 it's the only evidence to support either side's claims of what happened. It was clear spencer had nothing to do with the ref error and this is the only thing that's been said on it. All Seb said was that it's not concrete proof... but it's all there is. Where's the F2's proof otherwise? Idiot
@@Ejdfj You're the idiot it isn't proof it is literally hearsay, he has given absolutely nothing to back up his story. What does this have to do with the F2 it's about the Ref being slandered for no reason, the comments section shows what impression this video gave and it took Seb to pull him up to get any sense.
Hey Spencer hope you are doing well . Love these types of vids
Class lads! Really well covered! Must have learnt a lot through all of these events and it’s amazing to spread positive messages from this!
Glad for the new uploads mate! Missed the videos👍🏼
Been waiting for this since the last one
Such an honest video well done guys
Loving the sit down talk and chat videos mate, keep it up
I'm so glad you finally spoke about all of this. Very proud of you mate.
Daily reminder that there is an alternative universe where Lionel Messi was released by Barcelona (despite being the best ball player at the club). Don't worry though because he got to the final of Argentina's Got Talent.
Swaz.
I just realised, we would have probably won the champions league by now if we had Jeremy "swazz" Lynch in our squad. easily!
But he isn't allowed saying he is too good
We’d have won more than one
Mohammad Mir Moosa says the F2 fanboy
Ben Jack don’t diss f2
So much respect for Spencer with his channel, the Wembley Cups have been ground breaking and lessons learned along the way were unavoidable.
Definitely gonna start watching these podcasts. Even out of the F2 drama these are a great listen
The f2, jez especially just took themselves too seriously. It's a youtube match ffs not the champions league. All that you'd get is a meaningless trophy
Wembley cup
Spencer FC vs F2
The finale
Would be insane
Although probably won't happen
Great vid spen keep up the good work
Spence these podcasts are inspirational! Keep it up
Love the longer videos ... keep up the brilliant work 🤩
Im so high I thought it was the same guy playing as both people for 10 minutes
Thanks for making me laugh today 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I do apologise because it was on my watch” ahh I see what you did there 😉
Nice
Spencer and Seb are on fire these days. Keep it going with these conversations boys!
Loving the videos Spencer and Seb at the minute hope to see some more videos of this kind
The sad thing is that Lynch puts himself in these situations by having an "everybody hates me cause I'm awesome" mindset.
All of this drama and heat will just further compound his attitude. There's literally no getting through to someone like that.
Imagine if F2 had orchestrated all of this, they knew the ref somehow, just so they could lose, get the better players and then win the cup...
Spencer. You’re an inspiration and although this channel started via football and Fifa (which isn’t really that important in the grand scheme of things). This has turned into something really special. Thank you for what you do
Those final few minutes was the perfect sendoff for the best football series on YT of all time. Legends x
Wenger lost his job because he didn't sign Jeremy "swaz swazerooney" lynch
this is how many days spencer has been on 1.96M. What a youtuber💙
I’ve watched these all these videos regarding the WC and honestly, you guys have come across so down to earth and proper. The F2 and their chihuahua on the other hand have let themselves down big time. Top stuff 👏🏽
Loving these type of videos spence!
Keep it up!
Love Spencer’s new motto “don’t go hanging”
mental how much drama can be caused from doing a charity match
Yea it's crazy how they care so much
Omg you kids are soo delusional 😂
Mohammad Mir Moosa ur prob younger then most of them if you’re an f2 fanboy you neek
I've only started watching Spencer FC these past 3 videos, so I'm new here. But I am CONVINCED this is 1 guy playing 2 different people with some amazing cuts and audio editting 👏👏👏
Spence, you're absolutely spoiling us with these vids 🙌
14:19 Spencer’s accidental pun “it was on my WATCH” hehehe
The Lineman has really dropped himself in it here surely he's complicit
He could've been any of the refs so has deniability, really. Wasn't the lino in that game.
Seb absolutely nails it at the end. Might be nice to do some of these chats about the positive things and happy / funny stories from the Wembley Cup like the moments Spencer lists!
Big up spence and seb you guys keep it real. Hope you hit 2 mill you deserve it‼️🤘🏽
Joey is a trespasser, ps please do the wheel of FUTune 😂🐐
Henry and Bergkamp have been very quiet since everyone’s been talking about the great swaz Lynch
I love these videos, keep it up Spencer 🙏🏾
Been a fan since fifa playa days when you ended that channel and started this and have watched every single video since. One of my favourite TH-camrs by far!
Loving the podcasts as well👌
7:55 for anyone that’s watched the last vid and already knows the whole thing
Thanks
We need JaackMate to violate “Swaz” again
Wait til his new video 😉
@@thogden found jaackmates biggest fan
Yes Thogden!
Thogden big fan but no son of mine is having a coke
Havent watched your stuff in years and just want to say it’s awesome you guys run your own football club now. Absolute lads dream. Congrats
Thank you Spencer for making sure to drive home that this way one ref, and one ref only. I'm a youth ref myself in the US, and I can confirm that, yes, teams have reputations and refs remember them and change based on those. I won't mention locations or teams incase anyone involved sees, but there are coaches that I will admit, not to cheating, but changing the way I call things. I have had coaches that are so terrible, so rude, etc., that I actually looked for ways, not matter how small, to send him off. And I know its wrong, but it happens. And I can guarentee it happens at all levels in all areas. There are also coaches and teams that I genuinely enjoy working with, and those matches I tend to be a bit lighter and let them play more, not call as much. Obviously the rules are the rules and I stand by them, but just know every ref is human, and we all, whether intentional (such as the F2 situation) or not do things we maybe shouldn't, and that's just part of the game
I’m not mad at all this resurfacing at all 🔥
If Jeremy had any decency at all he’d see this and apologise
i’m loving every second of this
I'll be honest, when the Wembley Cup controversy was happening I blamed you cos I was jumping on the bandwagon with some people saying you was cheating. Now I watch back these and I realise it was my love for the F2 and myself being immature that before I can base an opinion, I need to hear the full story from both sides. You make quality content and I think you are a complete professional and put in so much hard work. I have massive respect for both you and your brother for giving great quality content and it has been spoiled from individuals at times. Love watching your vids man, keep up the great work 👍
I remember my dad telling me about this one player at arsenal coming up through the ranks who was just as good as Henry, his name was Jeremy lynch, best on the ball player 🔥
Do a Top 5 wembley cup moments or tier list of Wembley Cup goals Spen!!
Really enjoying these new longer videos with Seb. They are like a mini podcasts and maybe you could even upload them on spotify/other podcast networks if you are interested.
The Wembley Cup at its core was an amazing amazing thing to see as a fan. The first one was amazing, and every year I was so excited when they came back. Spencer is really doing bits. Every time he would switch into something new, I'd be disappointed because I enjoyed so much whatever he was doing before. But then I would soon get into the new thing (Hashtag) so much that I didn't want to see the old thing (FIFA) anymore. Now I just have complete trust that we're going to get good content, and it's going to stay fresh.
The f2 were only complaining cause theye were losing if they were winning they would have no problem with it and im sure xo wouldnt have had any issue with it either 🤷♂️
it's understandable to complain in that situation because the match was cut short. It's just not ok to blame it on spencer and say it was his doing.
Well the ref only cut it short BECAUSE they were losing.
Lol so what do you think they shouldn't have complained? You're just another ass who just decided to go against one person/group
Joey is a trespasser
Sending love from the ph 🇵🇭
Surely there has to be a podcast with you two. Brilliant content
Not going to lie, never heard of the Wembley cup before this morning due to only getting into watching TH-cam in the last few months. I’ve watched all 3 videos about this. You guys are awesome. You did what was always best for the tournament even if that put you down. You should all be extremely proud of the work you have done. I’m disappointed I’ve only just found out about it!
11:12 I understood that reference Seb 😂
Yesss! I was looking down the comments to see if someone picked up on that. Back of the net!
Well Stephen tries's diss track actually makes sense
I haven’t consistently watch spencer fc for a few years now but now he’s making podcasts I really enjoy the content again
We need more contents like this. Behind the scenes and commotions between you tubers and events