The Rip-Off Royal Oak We're in Love With | LIQUOR RUN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- In this week's episode of LIQUOR RUN, Christian and Rolly dive into a bottle of Chardonnay and discuss some of the new additions to the watch shop!
For more luxury vintage watches, visit theoandharris.com.
Today, we're talking about two new additions to the shop - the first, an Omega Dynamic and the second, a Bulova Royal Oak.
The Omega Dynamic is a truly off kilter piece, one that never seemed to totally hit the mark with many consumers. Perhaps it was the 100% brushed steel case. Maybe it was the fully lumed sword hands. Maybe it was the funky Arabic numerals. Whatever it was, consumers didn't quite get it at the time, and as such they remain totally undervalued to this day.
Then we get to the pseudo-icon: the Bulova Royal Oak. This version comes in quartz, and it is a pretty unabashed rip-off of the Audemars Piguet equivalent. That being said, it's also super well done. The finishing is incredible, it wears beautifully, and on the whole, it still represents a tremendous value.
The Bulova is harder to find than the AP
There was one floating around on Watchrecon a few weeks back that disappeared
guess what We’ll it’s your opinion but honestly this model is very beautiful and don’t even have to spend 1/4 of the price
I had one, took it to a watch repair man, got it back minus one of the face screws. He said that was how I brought it to him, it wasn’t. Asshole.
EJ Mardell Sometimes people get jealous. Mine broke man sadly and I had to sell it for parts because it’s extremely difficult to find parts for this watch.
Lmao Christian. You have no idea how accurate you are about how watch lovers react to a Bulova Royal Oak. I FINALLY (after a year of searching) found an automatic-white dial- stick hand Bulova Royal Oak. The watch was in need of a service so when I took it to my favorite watchmaker and he literally word for word said, "Oh my god. I've never actually seen one of those. I've heard about it. Is that thing with Gerald Genta true?" My answer is obviously no and explained my research about it. Also coincidentally he was wearing his AP Royal Oak at the time I walked in and immediately begins comparing the two next to each other. It was hilarious because he was so excited to work on it. He runs to the back to look at the movement, check out the dial, take pictures, and check its weight. I find it so endearing and funny that a guy wearing an actual AP was so happy to compare and look at the Bulova Royal Oak. It absolutely is an amazing conversation piece. He even wanted to refinish the bracelet on the Bulova to be more like the finish of his own Royal Oak. I can't wait till it comes back from the service the guy is an artist of the highest order.
DM me pics!!!!
Albert Oh How much did it cost you to restore it!? I recently bought one just yesterday!! An automatic with a white dial! It’s in need of work but I can imagine how it would look at the end!
@@leomedina5614 how much did you pay for the watch??
@@vernievuitton at the time $1300
@@leomedina5614 Thanks man! what a beautiful piece
Bulova needs to reissue this watch, it will sell like crazy!
They were sued i think
It's illegal, so don't hold your breath
You guys provide with such amazing content for all watch geeks
Specially for average consumer who wants to have something special but won’t shell out a lot
Thanks T&H!
By far the best series! But seriously, you need to do an off topic on your shades. They're fire🔥
That gold with the green strap just pops so well!
The Bulova actually comes in an automatic, which is crazy rare and hard to find.
Timepiece Archaeology I bought one last month for around 1000€.
It’s funny so I was looking for one of this for a good while. Now there is a couple on eBay
I like the wine analogy. You can however buy plenty of actual white (and red) Burgundy for $10. But point taken. Amazing that you can share your watch passion with your dad. I’m trying to get my daughters into watches and it’s slow going LOL
That puppy sitting between you two is so cute.
Bulova also makes the Super Seville (did I get that right?) Which is pretty awesome. I dont see it as a rip off because it was the style at the time and so they made their own version with a touch of ulova added to the mix. You should try to source one.
Next week he will be touting the Bagelsport.
gew1898 I actually enjoy wearing my bagelsport nautilus.
iop223 I don’t find that difficult to believe.
Que the haters...haha
I love homage watches. I have a Steinhart OVM 39mm and love it! I will never be able to own a Mil-Sub but I can really enjoy this.
Here is my pitch and take on homage watches with a couple of analogies.
Vintage cars and guitars.
No one hates on a Factory Five Cobra. No one tries to pass it off as a Shelby Cobra. You can get a complete one with modern reliable drivetrain and brakes for a fraction of a real one. In some ways a better car. Would anyone prefer a Factory Five over a Shelby. No way but thousands of people love and enjoy them.
I think my Steinhart and other quality homages are the same way. Compare the parts and build quality to a Tudor from a few decades ago. ETA 2824-2 movement. Same materials for the case and bracelet. 300m waterproof rating. The Steinhart beats that vintage Tudor by providing a Sapphire crystal and a solid clasp vs a stamped one. True on this count for many Rolex’s also.
Would I rather have it over a choice vintage piece? No, but it is a quality watch nonetheless.
Secondly, guitars compare well I think. Here you have a nice comparison because there is less scarcity than in the car example.
Tons of companies make copies of Fender Stratocasters, Telecasters and Gibson Les Pauls. Many of them are great instruments that professional musicians love. Some of them are are even preferred like Suhr guitars.
Fender also has premium Guitars from their Custom shop which would be like a limited supply Rolex, American standard guitars which are like Standard line Rolex and Mexican made but with almost the same parts which would be Tudor.
No one hates an Ibanez or Yamaha guitar though. Great performing guitars at a lower price point but still definitely an homage to the Strat.
The Chinese make the fakes though just like watches and that is crap trying to pass them off as an authentic Gibson or Fender.
I hope these analogies make some sense to you guys. You just made me think about this when you were trying to convey your feelings on the difference between a homage and a fake.
If you love it , Own it and wear it!
Cheers 🥂
My favorite (can't take it off) watch is Ginault Ocean Rover which is practically a copy of an Rolex sub (with a much better bracelet). I know its gets a zero for originality but I won't trade it for the real thing.
im totally uninformed and new in watches,never wanted to buy any.but your show is great and made me interested in this topic a lot,and im definitely getting some watch/es very soon
Wow man, having a connection with your dad like that has gotta do wonders I’m sure.
This watch is no rip off. It was the original royal oak. The guy who worked on them royal oak worked for build a first. Designed this watch and then switched companies. So it was never released. It was relased after the guy put out the AP royal oak.
Very cool video. Your Dad rocks!
Totally agree with conversion aspects of fake/real watch.
It’s all about your feelings, when wearing a watch and how that comes through in words. Cheers 🥂
Hey guys, whats todays value on one of those bulova Royal Oak's?? someone hit me with 2500 on a great quality one, seemed high still
The difference for me is the watch hasn’t got AP on the dial where’s a homage like this Bulova while copying the design isn’t trying to trick a potential buyer or anyone else that you’re getting a real Royal Oak.
Very nice! Went on AW today and i ordered a Aperol Spritz because i saw the Aparol bottle in the bar! Very nice drink and i recommend it!
i bought a 1978 GMT Master 1675 Rolex from my boss at the time (1983) and business partner for the last 25 years for the huge price of 300.00 US dollars and in 1980 gave it to my brother for northing because i didn't dig the small crown and plastic (acrylic) crystal.. picked up one of many Subs and my brother wore it until almost 1990 and i offered him 1500.00 to get it back but he sold it to a fly by night jeweler for 2 grand and the next day had a 5 grand price on it! The biggest mistake in my watch career and I've made more than a few! The watch was still perfect and selling for around 10 grand and i paid 300.00 for it and wasn't happy with a few things i thought were cheap and those same things are what make it so special in these days... Dad is the best!
trevor walker i can totally understand your points. Ive got my dads GMT Master 16750 that he was wearing as a daily Watch since Early 1980s. Since he passed away im completely in Love with this 16750 GMT. But even if it wasnt my Dads daily Watch it really kinda grew on me because its just very different compared to the latest Rolex GMTs. It has a pretty Slim Case and looks smaller and more classy in my opinion. Greetings from Germany :)
Great video!
Yo I just luv the Father and Son segment so keep up the good work
ive been looking at a dynamic and now i feel like the price is going to skyrocket
I am a Bulova fan and definitely rock the "Bulova Royal Oak" . . . it's much classier than the Tommy Hilfiger rip-off (the Eton) produced by Movado under license for Tommy Hilfiger
Wonderful video, the Omega Dynamic you showed is actually on my list just under an Omega Speedmaster reduced and a Breitling Chronomat. As I look to step up my watch game your videos have been very informative.
Thank you very much Brian, we try!!!!
I love the chemistry between you and your father!
Thank you!!!!!! He is the man!!!
Fun episode! I have fun buying and wearing homage watches occasionally. Especially when they are done right. I have an homage vintage Royal Oak that is a manual wind that I picked up for about $100 that is done very nicely (forgot the brand and it is packed away right now). It's just fun and that's all there is to it. I have fun collecting Rolex and Tudors too, but that is a more serious type of fun.
What camera did you shoot this on? How bout settings. It looks good!
A little off topic, but seeing your Wempe watch reminded me - I’ve been considering a Sinn 104 for a first watch, is that something you’d recommend?
The Royal Oak is iconic. It's is also far beyond most peoples means. Hard homages from any company are acceptable at lesser price points than the original. Ide say the rules change when one deals with counterfeits.
if your a funny confident guy, you can where any fake watch and when people call you out on it, take it off and let them hold it, then the convo becomes about "hey do you think it real?" and have a little fun with whoever your talking to. then proceed to say "i'm testing the feel b4 buying a real one"...
Hello man , hope you are doing well, I just bought a bulova Royal Oak, BUT !! it's fully gold plated, I never seen any fully gold plated before, they made fully gold plated before?
superb video !
I like boluva but wish they had put the Precisionist movement in the watch so at least it would have had something Boluva is known for...
The other thing I think with the Bulova is the fact that the person who originally bought the piece, knew their money was going to a watch brand with heritage who would do something with that money. Fake watches can commonly fuel crime, terrorism etc as well as funding more fake watches, which no one wants. I know where I would want my money to go!
Great relationship with father and son
We’re I can get that bulova on black dial?
Buluva also made the 333 oceanographer with a 10k gold bezel in the late 60’s
Liquor run - well done!
How much is the Bulova royal oak worth and sells for?
Is the bulova going online soon ?
What about the Buler Astromaster?
The fact that you have that type of dog does not surprise me in the least..
whats the name of that bulova model ?
If a watch that costs literal 10s of thousands inspires a budget rip off, best bet I'll be getting that rip off, especially if it's from a reputable brand.
What ref is that Omega?
Liquor run, always interesting.
Amazing what has happened to the price of the Bulova RO since this video was produced. And speaking of great homage watches going up in price.... Gevril Tribeca! Wow
Hey guys, try a cabernet sauvignon from Sequoia Grove winery. I think they're in Washington state. Best cabernet I ever had. Cute doggie. Nice pseudo Oak.
That green strap looks sick on that Rolex
Thank you!!!!
What model number
What do you think about new maurice lacroix aikon automatic?
On another end of the spectrum check out the new Maurice Lacroix Aikon watch , looks similar and auotmatic at an affoardable price
I love Liquor Run!! Happy Friday!
I love that Omega Dynamic.
Have you heard of the company pintime?
i love that buckley datejust
Should make a video on steinhart and squale
Have you seen the Didun Royal Oak Homage with an Automatic movement?
How about Michel herbelin? They have a ap homage :)
Great video makes me think of my son.
does anyone know the name of the sunglasses brand?
Persol
Let's face it, there's no way at all that a person can discern a Calatrava from a million watches of every single company out there from more than 5 feet away, or a Laco flieger from a IWC or Stowa or islander or any other company, you stand 10 feet away a Submariner looks exactly like an aquaracer, half the chronograph watches are precise copies from each other, a casio oak is almost the same as this bulova, and there's a lot more examples, as long as it doesn't pretend to be something it's not, I have no problem with it.
How in the **** did you find that Bulova!? Sheeeeeeeeeesh.
OK, so - Gerald Genta worked for Bulova in the 60s and designed a watch for them that looked like the Royal Oak. In Bulova, they rejected it and Genta left. He went to AP and offered them his design. They were impressed and built and released the AP Royal Oak watch in 1972. Because the watch was a success, Bulova released their own watch that looked like the Royal Oak later in the 70s.
I’d love it if it wasn’t a Quartz movement
What is the best first luxury watch under 3k?
Laurent Binette forget about anything “luxury” at that price
OMEGA seamaster 300
Tudor black bay 36 is pretty great but you could go vintage
Cam M. What about a speedmaster reduced with sapphire cristal?
Laurent Binette If you forego the luxury
Then Sinn 903 is a killer, stands out from the crowd, has heritage, has the Navitimer looks so definitely looks more expensive and is not a homage.
I forgot this existed.
Latour does not mean quality in any conceivable way, quality has Latin roots. It’s literally qualité in French, it likely comes from La Tour which means the tower
Gerald Genta has worked on it
Your missing the point. The AP is a $500 watch that’s selling for $25,000.
Corny: Most homages. Cornier: Caping for huge corporations out of a scold's fantasy of one day being able to walk up to someone and say "excuse me, sir, but your 'watch' is disgusting"
Solid content👌
That is by far my fav Omega. Bar none.
Now I need one of those Bulovas! They are so cool and unique! Going off topic, what do you all think of vintage mido multiforts from the 50’s and older?
Will the omega be up on theo and harris for sale?
Mann where da fuck is my head..I never knew that was your dad..That's great !!
YOU'RE YELLING INTO THE MIC
I guess it represents value but not in relation to AP. I don't think the design being ripped off is value. It needs to stand on it's own merits.
Saw one for 3k on Chrono24 LOL
I don't much care for AP so a fake one is about as welcome as a turd in a swimming pool.
Thank you for contributing an interesting insight into an important difference between a homage and a fake watch. That has really helped me to reconcile my mind to people who buy and wear homage watches.
Not their hommage to chardonnay, their hommage to a burgundy chardonnay. ;)
Just like the Seiko Datejust
Ferris Bueller and his dad. Cool
I love liquor run it’s my favorite series on TH-cam
I couldn't agree more when you're wearing fake watch you put on a front. When you wear an omage watch, you say hey I love the watch this watch pays homage to, however I'm not gonna support organized crime or lie to people. I'll wear this till I can afford the real thing. For now I'm gonna love watches
You can have conversations about the history and heritage of AP with a fake AP, the conversation is dependant on the person, not the watch.
love the episode...the Buckley dials are crap...and for him to name it after himself is just douchey...lol
Where's the real liquor?
Ham Sammich on the table
Seventeen hundred lol
R.I.P headphone users.
My unworn 16710 from ‘07 isn’t even worth 10k. Let alone 12k...
Chaps, how you compare Bulova with a replica...? Bulova, do some serious reading on this brand...
0:53
what happened to the editing?!
So let me make sure I understand. You like this Bulova which by your own admission it’s a ripoff RO but you blast the GP Laureato? How do people take you seriously?
Price and level/tier are the biggest gripes I would imagine. GP is on a much higher tier than Bulova. For tier which GP sits at and the price they are charging for the Laureato, I would expect more originality. For example if Porsche made a copycat car of an iconic Ferrari model wouldn’t that be weirder as opposed to if Toyota did the same thing.
Lola was much muchier this time. She's got a lot of muchness.
tgif, love the liqour run, keep up the great work, thank you Anna!
English convicts were put in canary yellow jackets to shame them. Some would rather commit suicide than wear yellow. I think they were right. Yellow is disgusting.