Thank you good sir! I am glad they are helping you out. I am working on another one for Lightsaber Upgrades and hope to have it out soon. Appreciate the feedback!
Dude, this video is fire. Back in the 2005 a friend of mine had the game and we both played the same save file together helping each other with the language since we weren't fluent at the time. In 2012 I had 2 and a half runs on it and by some sheer luck managed to have Maiden, Mira and Atton as Jedi at the same time. Never knew Bao-Dur could also be trained
Thank you very much! I know just what you mean. My brother and I went through the same thing. We played through the game many times trying to convert all the Jedi companions. It took us several playthroughs to get them all converted in the same playthrough cuz back in the day when it came out, you just had to test and figure stuff out lol
If you ask handmaiden to get dressed, and she puts on her mother’s robes, you can say they look like Jedi robes, and gain tons of influence through that dialogue tree, unless I’m remembering incorrectly.
It is possible. I know when you ask about the robes you can then ask her about her mother. I think asking about her mother may be the influence gain. I checked some footage I had of converting her and when she put on the robes I comment on them that they were Jedi robes and I didn't get an influence trigger. Could be because I already went through the mother dialogue part earlier. You could be right though. I will have to test on my next playthrough!
You can get 100% influence with Mira without any interaction with other events. The last bit of influence comes on the ship when you ask why she's so restless. You'll come across options in the convo such as, "Like Nar Shadaa?" and then, after that you get to describe Nar Shadaa in colorful ways and she'll say, "I'd never thought I'd hear a Jedi describe Nar Shadaa like that." Follow that up with the most gracious reply option there is and you'll get that last bit of influence to make her a Jedi without ever having to bring her out into the wild. The only part you can't skip is bringing her back to the pit on Nar Shadaa. It is easily possible to get every single companion up to Jedi status on Nar Shadaa alone, including Briana, if you're a lightsider. You get the conversation with the two Twi'leks about Atton, you get the speeder repair which gives influence to both Atton and Bao Dur, you get the diseased guy in the refugee camp for more Atton/Bao Dur influence(6 points in treat injury required), you get the guys at the pit, you get more than enough XP to reach level 17 and make Briana your leading lady, and as long as you have 12 awareness, Mira is a complete freebee. I always play Nar Shadaa first, just so I can enjoy Jedi companions at every planet after that.
Helped me a lot man been playing this game for years probably played it a thousand different times but I’ve never turned my entire party into jedis. Until now
I love this game for all the different ways to play through it. I recently started playing the gunslinger as well. Never tried it before cuz I absolutely love the lightsabers. Gotta say that it is quite fun being able to wreck enemies from afar. Next playthrough I want to try unarmed playthrough and just be a hand to hand combat master lol!
This is why I love the old republic games and I wish there was more Star Wars RPG video games being able to form your own little conclave of Jedi/Sith by teaching them the ways of the force it's not only fun but flavorful.
I plan on getting this on Stream and these vids help fill in the gaps! I remember 1st playing this 15 years ago. Still got the official guide. After 5-6 playthroughs I was able to convert everyone but Mira. I always saved Nar Shadaa for last because I felt it was the most difficult. I still remember crashing my xbox using that leveling exploit on Korriban.
Mical is super easy, you can convert him right there in the room after he joins your party, easier if you are light side, if you are dark you will lose 1 influence with him right away. I hope that they include both of them in the remastered version for both genders as in Legends, both Mical and Briana became Meetra's students
One more thing. You may include the fact that you can teach Atton and Mira the Lightsaber: Focus and Lightsaber: Specialization feats, while Bao-Dur learns the Two-Weapon Feats. You can also teach all of them the Force Sight, Affect Mind, Beast Trick, and Breath Control force powers.
Also you can teach Wound and Slow, if your MC know that. But the number of skills that you can teach your party is different. For example, Bao-Dur can't be trained to Lightsaber: Specialization. Handmaiden and Disciple can't be taught anything :(
Starting a Kotor 2 series so having this video as a reference is amazing. Thank you! For some reason I always struggle with Bao dur... Thanks again, awesome stuff!
You could have just said that the Diciple/Mical only need some simple lightside private discussion to make him a Jedi. You can do that in the very room that you get him on Dantooine(after he joins you, talk to him about the same stuff again). So you can have him as a jedi from lvl 1. That helps of course when it comes to abilities and force-powers. But if your dark side, its alot harder.
If you manage to get as much influence as you can with atton during peragus and telos, then select the most controversial questions throughout questioning him about his past. You are able to turn him into a Jedi Sentinel right there. This usually only works when you have managed to pass every light side ev with Atton as he questions you alot as to why you act in glory of the Jedi. Having Awareness around 14 will allow you to pass all influence checks and convert him into a jedi, granted your influence is good enough. This is not a conversation you want to skip and select random dialogue through. You will fuck it up if you do. May the force be with you
Been watching for a videos for years cause I forget these moments and finally someone does a whole compilation of all companions instead of bits and pieces..... Little late but I'm not complaining
I love how missions and side characters were so trigger dependent and foreign to try to get right without videos like these. Its like dark souls before dark souls was dark souls
@@ahabduennschitz7670 I've never been more pissed off at a game as I was at Ninja Gaiden. Took me a very long time to figure out every bosses sequence. No one in my house likes it when I play Ninja Gaiden lol
@@CatDaddyGaming Haha yeah I feel you. People who played ninja gaiden know what real frustration and honest anger are 😂 Dark Souls difficulty is a joke compared to most 80s 2D Plattformer
I appreciate this, I know its worthwhile to do both a dark side and light side playthrough in these games but I just cant be evil. I just rather be a jedi and do good things
Well thank you! Hope it was helpful. I understand how you feel but it's pretty fun going the opposite way. You gotta try it out sometime. HK is hilarious as your evil sidekick.
Thanks for making this! I also played this as a kid and finished a few time. Yet had no idea how to make others a Jedi companion other than Atton lol. This really helps!
So first time playing restored content and got my first Jedi hand maiden didn't need to go to any plant's just fought her 3 times at lv 18 then talked to her then talked to kreia
Btw there's a glitch where you can turn a character that's not currently a Jedi into a Jedi, but if you find it you need a level 0 Jedi, and if you do it with a different class of Jedi as the character like using Atton to convert handmaiden, handmaiden will be a Jedi sentinel, to do it you need to get the companion and the level 0 Jedi ( I did handmaiden and Bao-dur ) go to a container that opens as soon as you interact with id ( I used the broken droid on dantooine ) and press pause and interact while playing as the level zero Jedi, than after some times you you should get a screen that shows the level screen with the container pop up over it, once you have that close the container, start the level up, the container should pop up again, close it, than switch characters how ever many times you need to get to the companion than go all the way through with the level up, and now if you did it all right that companion should now be a Jedi, and this also works with non Jedi companions like hanharr and mandolore, and there you have it.
I have seen this glitch before. Its a pretty awesome trick. I am usually too scared to glitch my games cuz I don't want to risk corrupting all my hard work. Sucks losing all your hours of gaming lol
Hey man, thanks for producing this! I am replaying this game since I love it so much and having comprehensive information video like this is amazing :D Going to watch your other videos now P.S You can convert mira to a Jedi only through talking to her. No additional external influence checks are needed
Thank you very much! Real glad to know they are being helpful. So many different play styles to try. I still find myself learning new useful tricks lol I will have to test that out. When I tried it kept getting the failure thing so the 1 influence was what did the trick for me that time.
Lol not at all! I have been playing this game on and off since it came out and there is still stuff I am finding out that I never knew about. Only cared about the lightsaber years ago, now I am really interested in the story and can't believe how much awesome content younger me didn't even realize was there!
I downloaded both kotor 1 an 2 on my phone just to have something to do but this has been a great video so thank you. I never knew you could turn art in or mira
Loved this game i remembered I did like 5 playthroughs but could never get the handmaiden to convert to a jedi, I finally did on my 6th playthrough and i also made visas marr a jedi too
Wow stumbled across this video and I'm really impressed by it. Only played Kotor 2 for the first time a few months back this year, years after playing the first game. I could tell my run wasn't exactly perfect, and you can never fully experience the Kotor games with just one run. I never fully grasped some of the new aspects brought in for the sequel, one being conversion of companions I had briefly read about while playing. So I'm looking to do my second run, and wanted to do a bit of minor research going into it to hopefully improve my experience. Going to add some mods this time around as well, heard a lot of good things about the restored content mod, if you have any further suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the guide, this info really helped me out. Earned a sub :)
Thank you very much! The conversation choices in the game are very well done.If you are not laughing from one liners then you will be learning backstory for the characters. I breezed through it as a teenager, but now playing it again as an adult, I can't believe how much stuff I missed. Definitely do get the Restored Content. Make sure to also get the community made Droid Planet M4-78. Some people hate the planet but if you enjoy the story then you will enjoy the extra scenes. It is not super amazing DLC content, but having the community restore lost and hidden game data is a pretty amazing. There is a video on TH-cam about the making of The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod (TSLRCM). It is pretty cool if you are interested. Also there a bunch of mods you should consider. The HD ones are my favorite. Gives the game a fresher look. They have HD skins for planets, your ship, and some characters. Just make sure they are compatible with each other. Updated UI and Bao-Dur looking like Darth Maul are also ones I always get. Hope this was helpful. I appreciate the time you took to comment. I am working on some more Kotor 2 videos right now. Got a lightsaber upgrade guide in the works, so hopefully that one will be helpful to you too!
Officially the cannon is that the exile Meetra Surik is Infact a female. And revan is officially a male since keano Reeves was cast as revan. I'm playing this on Nintendo switch. It'd be really helpful to use these videos, thank you
Noo! Did I butcher another pronunciation. I must be super terrible at English. I forgot the "s" on the end didn't I? I looked up the pronunciation after reading this so hopefully I won't mess that up again! :(
Organizing my adaptation of the companions: Group 1: The Aliens Visas the Servility (red lightsaber) Bao-Dur the Obedience (blue lightsaber, viridian lightsaber) Hanharr the Ferality (blue shoto lightsaber [2x]) Group 2: The Strongest Kreia the Kunning† (green double bladed lightsaber) Surik the General (blue double bladed lightsaber, viridian lightsaber [souvenir, sometimes]) Group 3: The Romance Mira the Huntress† (purple lightsaber, Alternate Story only) Brianna the Etiquette (blue double bladed lightsaber) Visas the Servility Group 4: Droid crew T3M4 the Navi-Computer HK47 the Psychotic G0T0 the Economic (droid only) Remote the Assistant† Bao-Dur the Obedience (he helps them out on a daily basis) Group 5: Cockpit and Communications Atton the Kinky (yellow lightsaber) Mical the Wasted (viridian lightsaber, green shoto lightsaber [sometimes]) Ratrin the Lost (non-Force-sensitive) Group 6: Miscellaneous Canderous the Preserver (Darksaber, non-Force-sensitive) Lonna Vash the Hope (orange lightsaber, until she witnessed Vrook and the others tell him a false revelation about him being Nihilus and ran away) Jolee Bindo (green lightsaber, Korriban only) Jett Darklighter (green shoto lightsaber, Korriban only) See, the great kind feral bestial growling Milo Surik is a powerful warrior in contrast to that pacifistic "canonical" Meetra Surik.
Hey, CatDaddy Gaming. I just recently discovered Kotor 1 and 2, and just now stumbled onto this channel. Your content has been very helpful so far. I'd love it if you could make an influence guide for Kreia. Currently I'm on my second playthrough of TSL, and my goal this time was to gain a lot of influence with her so I could hear what she has to say on Revan and on her past. The first time through I made every single light side choice, so naturally I lost a lot of influence, and she wouldn't tell me anything when I went through the speech tree. I noticed that she responds well to the PC agreeing with her and generally treating her as the wise mentor, so I've been trying to do that, but I keep gaining and losing influence at the same time. So, yeah. Any advice would be appreciated! :)
These games are so awesome! Always love hearing that someone has started playing them and is enjoying it. That is a very good video idea. I have a few other ones I am working on but I will for sure add it to the list cuz I think that is a great idea. I think you have the right idea. You need to be a good little padawan and always listen to her and take her advice. I haven't experimented too much with Kreia and influence but I will for sure look more into it. I know on the Ebon Hawk she will bash the other companions and you can usually agree with what she says or pretend to only being using your companions for personal gain or to sacrifice and she will like that. She is that weird neutral but leaning more towards the Dark Side. Make sure to save your game VERY often and before you chat with her and you can quickly reload the game if you get a influence loss. I will see if I can find some more info about her influence locations.
@@CatDaddyGaming Update: for my last playthrough I took your advice, especially saving before conversations, and I managed to unlock a lot of stuff I hadn't before. I don't know if I unlocked _everything_ , which is why I'm trying again, with a DS male this time (last time I played LS female). I'm hoping I'll gain even more influence without my light side obligations getting in the way. A word of advice for anyone else reading this: When you get to Nar Shaddaa, if you are playing light side, take Kreia with you until you meet the refugee near the landing pad who begs you for some credits and go through that interaction, then _remove_ her from your party afterward. Whether you choose to help the refugee or threaten him, Kreia will scold you, but neither choice will cause you to loose influence. To gain influence, you just have to agree to consider her advice. But if you take her with you into the city, you'll run into some more thugs harassing some guy who owes them money. I went through all the light side or neutral sounding options, but she got mad no matter what. I'm pretty sure she would get mad at the dark side ones too. So if you're super dedicated to gaining influence with Kreia, I would just avoid this interaction altogether. Also, don't loot bodies on Korriban after she tells you not to (lol).
@@maladjustedmaverick6619 Thanks for the info my friend. I always usually cast Kreia aside for the cooler companions but I have been wanting to do a loyal padawan playthrough with her. That info will definitely be handy. Really glad to hear that the save trick is working out for you. It can save you so often. I always forget the right choice when getting Visas in the party and trying not to offend Handmaiden and this saves me every time. They did such a good job with the speech trees and having the choices and responses written. I think I have heard them all too but occasionally I will get some voice lines I swear I have never heard before lol. Amazing writing from the devs!
So I messed up and only managed to get handmaiden, bao durr and hand maiden as Jedi. I went to Dantooine, Onderon, Nar Shaddaa, Onderon, Korriban. This is not a good order for obvious reasons lol. But also I think my game file was slightly corrupted as I normally play gray leaning light and do gain some dark side points here and there and all my companions sans Kreia were waaaay off the chart light side includinf HK47, Goto and Mandalore
Thank you so much! Gonna try this out. Out of curiosity, can you still trigger the “romance” with Visas if you ignore her until after Handmaiden is converted? (This is my first playthrough as male exile so I’m unfamiliar with what is needed to trigger that with Visas.)
@@RedStoanPhD I am not familiar with the entire romance sequences. I could be wrong but I think that they scrapped the romance features. There are some obvious speech options that hint towards the romance feature but in the end I believe it is just dialogue and only thing they left behind was the influence. You can still gets scenes of Handmaiden and Visas arguing over you but no further romancing other than them mentioning how much they want to be with you. There are some mods out there for romancing those companions but I have yet to try them out. I do believe you can still "romance" her after waiting until you convert Handmaiden though. Visas isn't stuck up like Handmaiden is lol
@@CatDaddyGaming alright cool, thank you. All I really knew was I saw a vid of gameplay that is “semi-romance” between Visas and exile (not full on like with Revan and Bastila though), but I don’t know whether that was modded content or normal. Guess I’ll find out soon! I wonder why most of the romance got left on the cutting room floor... though to be fair, there is far more content in this game than in KOTOR I, and perhaps they just felt like it was too much.
I remember manage to convert all character to light side except kreia. But never manage to make all of them dark side, some will still be light side. Perhaps the reason why I able to do it because of easier influence mod in workshop but idk
Thanks for the video man! I only thought you could make the disciple a Jedi before this. I do have a question tho; do you have the have the Restored Content Mod to be able to convert all these companions or can you do this in just the vanilla game? Thanks again man! 👍
Sorry for the delay in reply but you can certainly make them all Jedi in the vanilla version of the game. Super fun to do since you will have so many Jedis in the party. Makes it real nice when you have to make a party without your main character. Glad this was able to help you out! :)
No you do not. That part about the central pit from her is just for you as the exile. For Mira you just have to make sure you get the influence high enough so can ask the right questions. You will take Mira back to the central pit that Kreia shows you, but it won't matter if they are not together for both instances.
@@Blake_Aphra Yes. You have use the Central Pit in the process of converting her. You can still get the influence gains and conversations away from Nar Shaddaa but you will have to come back to the Central Pit to do the last step.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. I've been playing this game for years. I got it when it first came out for the OG Xbox. I've beat the game several times over. Most of it was trial and error but Reddit did help a little when I decided to make the video. All the recorded footage was from me playing though. I made a new save slot everytime I saved so it was fairly easy to load up wherever in the game I needed to be to test out influence.
@@stephenthedude4383 Nice! Just as much fun the second time. Darkside run always makes me laugh out loud at the speech options. I come back to it every few months and still catch things I didn't before. Glad this game aged so well! :)
I play with RCM. I've always been able to convert Mira solely with the conversations aboard the Ebon Hawk. Great video. I love your content, it's good refreshment of my memory for my current playthroughs. Edit: I'm currently on a female dark side consular/sith lord playthrough. I'm going to start a dark side marauder playthrough soon but I haven't decided if I'm going to do the classic route from a guardian or cross class route with a sentinel. Another thing I wanted to try is to get Mira for dark side. Would you happen to know the exact threshold of alignment I have to stay above to obtain Mira? I know she is stated as joining your part if you're light side or neutral. I want to get her then go full dark side from.
I am going to try to convert her just through conversation myself but it feels like I always need at least 1 influence gain with here. I am not sure the exact number but I would imagine, 0-40 is Lightsided, 40-60 is neutral, and 60-100 is Darksided. You probably couldn't be above 60 or you would get Han-Harr. This is just speculation also. The KSE may be able to tell you your exact alignment number too
@@CatDaddyGaming to get her to the conversion ready state you have to get the influence success where she agrees to be shown the Force on Nar Shadda at the central pit. I'm able to get her there with just her Ebon Hawk conversation branches. She is tricky because you have to two different branches in the same dialogue tree to get to conversion ready status. Just follow the same dialogue path twice, picking the two different options on each through line. I have a spreadsheet with all the influence gains and losses on my PC.
@@Vazkiel I will definitely try out her speech tree. Maybe I can get it on the next playthrough. That's awesome if you have a spread sheet with that information. I usually have to pour through 15 year old forums to confirm mechanics lol
Just found your channel and ive watched a few videos and like your content. I've played kotor 2 on original xbox and pc but and Im currently playing it on the one x (its not enhanced like kotor 1) and even the original xbox version looks better than yours. Did you overhaul your visuals for a stylistic reason or to help performance?
@jimmyjams5038 Thank you! I am glad you are enjoying the content. And I just added visual mods to change things up. Some texture mods were fantastic but some were meh. I really enjoyed the Dantooine one. The grass land needed to be more grassy in my opinion.
@@CatDaddyGaming actually yeah I didn't even realize dantooine had way more grass lol it looked really good. I used a lot of texture/mesh overhauls so I don't remember what I used on PC but I think I mostly used AI upscaling for most things to maintain the art style. Overhauled the maps, weapons, skyboxes and even the cutscenes. The upscaled cutscenes were pretty huge downloads though so I didn't get the highest resolution for those.
@jimmyjams5038 Yeah. I have the game for Xbox and for my phone and switch. Since I can't do anything with those ones they stay the same. But my PC version I go wild on. I have my Steam version tuned up real nice, and my DVD version I test new and wild mods.
I’ve already completed Nar, Dant, and obviously telos and I can’t get Atton to let me trigger the last question to let him become Jedi... is it to late?
As long as you can get some more influence with him it isn't too late. Check out my other videos on the channel. I have one that goes over every influence location for the convertible companions. You still may be able to get some from the planets you completed. But there may be some you haven't come across yet.
I believe you are correct. You will get less skill gains for him as a Jedi rather than a Tech Specialist. I may be wrong but I am pretty sure Tech Specialist gets more skills when leveling. You could put your skill points into Intelligence to get more skills per level but that would take more than a few level ups before you got it higher enough. Guess it depends on what your going for. If he is your skill user and crafter dude, then Tech Specialist would for sure be more useful, downside is you miss out on Jedi Powers if you still want to convert him later on.
I have a glich. I triggered all these conversations and when I went to nar shaddaa there's 2 Mira's and I can't get the conversation to make her a jedi. Love your videos btw
What!?!? 2 Mira's! That does sound pretty cool to see except for the not being able to convert Mira part lol do you have a relatively close save point you could reload and try again? Usually that is the trick when you run into issues like that. Just reload an earlier point and hope it doesn't happen again.
@@CatDaddyGaming I fixed it. When I would enter the area from the docks there'd be a cutscene where she's talking to a refugee, the nearest to leading pad. If Mira is in the party when this cutscene happens they'll be two, one in your party and the one who spawns for the cutscene. To avoid this glich just leave the landing pad alone, no party members and add Mira after the cutscene triggers to have the conversation by the pit to turn her into a jedi
@@nicktan9739 Nice! Glad you were able to get it figured out. Thanks for sharing what you did too. Maybe someone who is stuck in the same position will see it and know what to do! :)
I only wish there were more stuff to do in this game more quests or side quests and places i mean we're talking planets here. Each planet should have at least 10 different areas with minimum of 50 side quests lol i want a remake of this game, a semi or even better open world version with grinding and loot collections love this game still. Cheers 🍺
Thank you! I will definitely look into that. I am currently working on a lightsaber upgrade guide, so after that i may jump into something like that because I think that is an excellent idea! It could also include what way you should build based on what Jedi Class you chose. I appreciate the feedback and the idea my friend!
I certainly will look into this. Classes are something I have been thinking about for a while now. I do plan on putting out a Planet Order or Planet Guide here very soon though!
You can train your companions to be Jedi regardless of class. You don't have to prestige your current class either. Just gotta make sure you gain influence with your companions and you will unlock more dialogue options to get them on the Jedi path.
I did the part where the two dudes told me about art in and I confronted him, I passed the first influence check but failed the second and now it's not there all he talks about is that game, did I miss my chance?
You should still be able to bring up that part of the conversation again. If you failed the influence check you will need to gain some more influence with him. Probably only need one more gain if you got the first part no problem. You definitely didn't miss your chance though. You should be able to ask him again. Just try clicking through every conversation option. It is probably hidden behind a few questions about his past.
Thank you very much!! I love having as many Jedi as possible. Makes the party split on Dxun much nicer cuz you have 2 separate parties with 3 Jedi each.
Most definitely. There are plenty more spots to gain influence with Atton if you miss some. You just need those first few if you want to convert him right on Nar Shaddaa as your first planet.
Check out some of my other videos. I have one that will go over every influence location for the Jedi convertable companions. There are a bunch more for her you can do.
I think everyone who hasn't looked up guides or videos on the game has done that. I had to play the game several times through before I could get every companion on the same run.
Recuerdo haber hecho una run hace muchos años cuando estaba pequeño y no se como había logrado que kreia tuviese la alineación hacia la luz solo a la mitad no digo que toda. Cómo fue? No lo sé. Solo quiero saber si realmente se puede llegar al tope
I think 11 or more. I will have a check my save files when I have the chance but I did see a few Reddit posts saying 11 was the amount needed for Mira dialogue trees.
There certainly is but it may require you to do some dark sided actions since that is what HK47 likes. So there is some but you may have to eat a few dark side points to get the influence.
Can you repair influence over handmaiden. I've always been training her and trying to gain influence and for no reason she's mad because of visas who I haven't even spoken to.
I know you can accidentally piss Handmaiden off by being nice to Visa when she joins the party, before you even chat with her. I will usually save right before Visa enters in case I mess up the speech choices. You can use KSE (Kotor Save Editor) to manually adjust companions influence, but I have heard of Visa and Handmaiden still giving players issues even after manually adjusting the Influence level. I know that is one way but make sure you makes backups of your saves if your going to mess with the save editor. Best bet is many many save points so you can go back and fix things you messed up on. Hope this helps!
@@silloweet Damn! Hopefully it works correctly this time. Yeah don't think anything close to that on Xbox. Right when you get Visa in your party if you lose influence with Handmaiden just turn off and make a different choice so you don't lose influence with her. At least that is what I suspect the problem to be. Best of luck!
quick question. does anyone know if you convert them all to jedi will you get a different ending? or will certain characters like Visas change events to cause a different ending?
Converting will not make for a different ending but there are a variety of events where certain choices will change parts of the game or ending. Gives the game great replayability!!
@@HopeEnstine Of course. Sorry it was so long. TH-cam doesn't always give me notifications so I check all comments occasionally. Speed run gets way fun after you know exactly what to do and where!
@@CatDaddyGaming Nah man you're good! the thought that counts honestly just you looking at it is enough lmao. Thank you for the info because I would have spent 200+ hours doing all the runs HAHA
Yes! There are a few on other planets but there are also a couple more on Nar Shaddaa too. Take only Mira, Atton and Bao Dur soak the influence, and heal the dying man in the Refugee Sector. Finishing the Lootra quest with Mira and Kreia in your party might trigger one too. Take Mira with you to Dxun, you will run into bounty hunters on Dxun and Onderon, at both spots stand up for Mira to gain some influence. One for each spot. You shouldn't need more than those, especially if you got all the dialogue influence gains. :)
Is there any point to increase influence with the crew members who you've already turned into jedi i just turned Atton and I think I know most of his his backstory but I'm not sure if with more influence you can learn more or if I should get other characters influence up instead?
I am not 100% sure if there is more backstory on them after you convert them into Jedi. I will have to look into that a little bit more. And that is because once I turn them into Jedi I stop trying to get more influence with them. Usually by that point they are close to 100%. Once they are full on influence there will be no more back story to unlock. You can tell when you get them to 100% influenced cuz the cutscene will happen for them to get influence but the game will not prompt "Influence Gained". After that point there is no benefit to getting further influence with them.
Nice dude you forgot about prestige class? You get it at level 15 right when you are level 15 go talk to kreia. And also if you are female you get disciple and you can also train him. Also you got discord?
I got it at level 18 right after I made Handmaiden a Jedi. I didn't know I could do it as early as 15 though, I usually go Jedi Master XD! I did do a darkside version with a female character where I covered converting him. I do have a discord, I'll put a link below, nothing fancy though! discord.gg/8gwnpCr
Ok so i gotta ask why does everyone say Briana can only b converted at level 18? When i play as a male shes the first companion i convert and that's b4 i even beat any planet. I've heard you SHOULDNT because if her class feats but I've never had problems concerning levels.
I agree in always converting her. The Jedi feats will be better than any fighting feats she may get not going Jedi. At least that is my opinion. However, it never lets me spar with her the 3rd time until level 18. Maybe your doing something I have been missing or you have a good bug in your game lol. I have always had to wait until level 18 to get that final spar in and then I can convert her right after. Jedi Handmaiden totally worth the wait though!
Do you know if Mira has a set number of influence gain checks to be convertible like Bao-Dur does? I'm currently playing DS character but I was neutral/slightly light and went to Nar Shadaa first so I could get Mira then convert her to DS. She's maxed out DS, and I've gone through the entire dialogue checklist, and the influence check is still a Failure about taking her to Nar Shadaa the spot Kreia took you. Sucks because I did this play through specifically to convert her and I don't think there's enough influence check missions left to convert her :( (my only planets left are Onderon/Dxun raid and Korriban/Droid Planet).
Have you done any darksided actions that caused you to lose influence with her? I only needed the one influence gain with her and it let me convert her, you may need an extra one or 2 though. I know if you lose too much with her she won't have enough to trigger the failure part. Did you go through all the dialogue options too cuz she has a few dialogue influence triggers I think. I have a video on my channel that goes over every influence location spot for the convertable companions. Think there is one or 2 for her on Onderon so you may still be able to get her done.
Do you have low influence with them? If you have low influence and lose influence all the time, your companions will go the opposite of your alignment.
I’m having a problem with bao dur I have like 3 + influence w him and the dialogue won’t pop up to train him I’ve ran through all the dialogue and now when I try to talk to him my only option is “never mind” I’ve tried to talk to him on Nar Shaadda Ebon hawk and dxun on and off the Ebon hawk. I’ve already got Mira and atton
Have you murdered dudes in front of him or lost influence along the way? Usually need an extra one or two influence on him if you go darkside. It will for sure happen on the Ebon Hawk, try getting one more if you can and then going straight to the Ebon Hawk. He should open with something along the lines of your presence affecting him. Not sure if this will work but you could try talking to Kreia, in other parts of the game chatting with her unlocks other stuff so worth a shot if its still not working.
@@oliverworley5162 I wonder if you have to have him in your party for a certain amount of time. I always have him run through Telos and Nar Shaddaa with me and I can usually convert him on Nar Shaddaa. Maybe another influence or 2 will do the trick. Sucks not being able to use some spots for other companions though.
@danielc121 You certainly can. Some are super hard. Handmaiden and BaoDur are a bit harder since they don't like Dark Side actions but definitely possible.
@danielc121 If TH-cam is kind enough to notify me of a comment, I try to resond lol that is a good idea. Might look into that cuz some are kind of hard to do. They will get the Sithed out face, white and crackly, and you can give them darkside powers, but they will still be followers/companions. Won't be as in depth as main character
Yes you can. They will usually follow your alignment. Check my channel I have this same video but done on a Darkside run so you can see them looking all sith like. Handmaiden and Bao Dur will be the hardest to get darkside cuz they don't like darkside actions and are generally lightsided as characters.
When I first got the game for Steam I just threw on the restord content and a few texture mods. After that I went super heavy on the mods and that is when I played through again with all the fancy ones. The footage was from my older playthroughs since I had all the save points backed up. So now most my footage does have them on but sometimes I need some clips from that playthrough. Maybe I'll have to do another lightside run for some fresher footage. The high quality blasters mods is fantastic. The textures are very well done!
It is a mod from the Steam Workshop. Effixian's Bar Dur B Dark Start. It is very well done. There is also a version of it for the main character if you want to play as a Darth Maul looking Zabrak. Definitely check it out!
You still trying for Bao Dur? You may have to remove the other party member to get it to trigger. Did you get all 3 speeder parts? You need those to fully repair the speeder.
Someone know when the game decide whenever you get Mira or Hanharr? Sucks ass you can't make the wookie into a sith which was planned but scraped becaus of George Lucas. Does the decision start as early as you land on Nar Shadaa, or somewhere during the story? Think Mira says different on the first cutscene on that planet like she sense your a sith or Jedi when you arrive.
Read through a few posts and think I may have an answer. From some other forums users I have read that it is right when you get the invite to meet in the Jekk-Jek Tar. It is entirely based off your alignment. So if you are more Lightsided when you get the message for the meeting, then Mira it is. But if can manage to get more Darksided before the meeting message triggers, then you get Han-Harr.
What other options are there for Bao-Dur if you missed the speeder because you didn't have the extra part? I messed up and only got one and used it on the computer like a moron smh 🤦♂️
There a quite a few more options. If you check my Kotor 2 Playlist I have a video that covers every influence opportunity for all Jedi companions. It will show you all the ones for Bao Dur.
Interesting! I know sometimes you need an extra influence or 2 with certain characters. Bao Dur is always iffy with me. Sometimes 3 influences work, sometimes I need the extra one. I have another video on my channel that goes over every influence spot for the Jedi capable companions. Try getting another influence gain with her and see if that does the trick.
CatDaddy Gaming yeah i figured it out, i’d also like to mention that if wait too late to talk to kreia about handmaiden she wont use the dialogue instead shell just repeat “we must go to dantooine”
@@tinyveil Glad to hear you got it sorted out. I didn't know that about Kreia and Handmaiden. Thanks for pointing that out so others can be sure to see it and avoid that issue!
Why thank you very much! :) I do agree that would be super cool. There is a glitch where you can make him a Jedi using a freshly converted companion. Can bug out your game but still cool to try out. I agree it would have been cool to influence him over to the Jedi ways.
As an exile the exile I appreciate helping out my followers
There aren't many good resources for "how to do x in KOTOR games" so I really appreciate the videos you have made so far. Keep it up! :)
Thank you good sir! I am glad they are helping you out. I am working on another one for Lightsaber Upgrades and hope to have it out soon. Appreciate the feedback!
Same here man.
agreed! currently doing my 3rd KOTOR 2 playthrough and never got all the companions as jedi, so this is really helpful
Dude, this video is fire. Back in the 2005 a friend of mine had the game and we both played the same save file together helping each other with the language since we weren't fluent at the time. In 2012 I had 2 and a half runs on it and by some sheer luck managed to have Maiden, Mira and Atton as Jedi at the same time. Never knew Bao-Dur could also be trained
Thank you very much! I know just what you mean. My brother and I went through the same thing. We played through the game many times trying to convert all the Jedi companions. It took us several playthroughs to get them all converted in the same playthrough cuz back in the day when it came out, you just had to test and figure stuff out lol
Not in a thousand years would i ever share a savefile with someone. Especially with such an self explanatory game like kotor
The fact this game helped you learn another language is pretty cool if you ask me.
If you ask handmaiden to get dressed, and she puts on her mother’s robes, you can say they look like Jedi robes, and gain tons of influence through that dialogue tree, unless I’m remembering incorrectly.
It is possible. I know when you ask about the robes you can then ask her about her mother. I think asking about her mother may be the influence gain. I checked some footage I had of converting her and when she put on the robes I comment on them that they were Jedi robes and I didn't get an influence trigger. Could be because I already went through the mother dialogue part earlier. You could be right though. I will have to test on my next playthrough!
You can get 100% influence with Mira without any interaction with other events. The last bit of influence comes on the ship when you ask why she's so restless. You'll come across options in the convo such as, "Like Nar Shadaa?" and then, after that you get to describe Nar Shadaa in colorful ways and she'll say, "I'd never thought I'd hear a Jedi describe Nar Shadaa like that." Follow that up with the most gracious reply option there is and you'll get that last bit of influence to make her a Jedi without ever having to bring her out into the wild. The only part you can't skip is bringing her back to the pit on Nar Shadaa.
It is easily possible to get every single companion up to Jedi status on Nar Shadaa alone, including Briana, if you're a lightsider. You get the conversation with the two Twi'leks about Atton, you get the speeder repair which gives influence to both Atton and Bao Dur, you get the diseased guy in the refugee camp for more Atton/Bao Dur influence(6 points in treat injury required), you get the guys at the pit, you get more than enough XP to reach level 17 and make Briana your leading lady, and as long as you have 12 awareness, Mira is a complete freebee. I always play Nar Shadaa first, just so I can enjoy Jedi companions at every planet after that.
Helped me a lot man been playing this game for years probably played it a thousand different times but I’ve never turned my entire party into jedis. Until now
It may seem stupid on my part but where do you find the hydrospaner on dantoeen
@@oliverworley5162 It's lodged in one of the security droids in the droid bay at the back of Khoonda
@@GamerzMedia thanks, took me a little while to figure it out, but cheers
dude this would have been the bomb 15 years ago! Still super useful today for my new playthrough after all that time! :D
After so many years, I'm still returning to this amazing game. First time after so many endings as a female LS gunslinger
I love this game for all the different ways to play through it. I recently started playing the gunslinger as well. Never tried it before cuz I absolutely love the lightsabers. Gotta say that it is quite fun being able to wreck enemies from afar. Next playthrough I want to try unarmed playthrough and just be a hand to hand combat master lol!
This is why I love the old republic games and I wish there was more Star Wars RPG video games being able to form your own little conclave of Jedi/Sith by teaching them the ways of the force it's not only fun but flavorful.
I plan on getting this on Stream and these vids help fill in the gaps! I remember 1st playing this 15 years ago. Still got the official guide. After 5-6 playthroughs I was able to convert everyone but Mira. I always saved Nar Shadaa for last because I felt it was the most difficult. I still remember crashing my xbox using that leveling exploit on Korriban.
If you do nar shadaa first you will be able to get a lightsaber
Mical is super easy, you can convert him right there in the room after he joins your party, easier if you are light side, if you are dark you will lose 1 influence with him right away. I hope that they include both of them in the remastered version for both genders as in Legends, both Mical and Briana became Meetra's students
One more thing. You may include the fact that you can teach Atton and Mira the Lightsaber: Focus and Lightsaber: Specialization feats, while Bao-Dur learns the Two-Weapon Feats. You can also teach all of them the Force Sight, Affect Mind, Beast Trick, and Breath Control force powers.
I plan on making a video on the abilities you can teach the companions! I appreciate the suggestion! :)
Also you can teach Wound and Slow, if your MC know that. But the number of skills that you can teach your party is different. For example, Bao-Dur can't be trained to Lightsaber: Specialization. Handmaiden and Disciple can't be taught anything :(
I never had Bao Dur as jedi nice to know that he can be turend into a jedi too. :D
Starting a Kotor 2 series so having this video as a reference is amazing. Thank you! For some reason I always struggle with Bao dur... Thanks again, awesome stuff!
No problem at all. Very happy to hear the video was helpful!
You could have just said that the Diciple/Mical only need some simple lightside private discussion to make him a Jedi. You can do that in the very room that you get him on Dantooine(after he joins you, talk to him about the same stuff again). So you can have him as a jedi from lvl 1. That helps of course when it comes to abilities and force-powers. But if your dark side, its alot harder.
If you manage to get as much influence as you can with atton during peragus and telos, then select the most controversial questions throughout questioning him about his past. You are able to turn him into a Jedi Sentinel right there. This usually only works when you have managed to pass every light side ev with Atton as he questions you alot as to why you act in glory of the Jedi. Having Awareness around 14 will allow you to pass all influence checks and convert him into a jedi, granted your influence is good enough.
This is not a conversation you want to skip and select random dialogue through. You will fuck it up if you do.
May the force be with you
Been watching for a videos for years cause I forget these moments and finally someone does a whole compilation of all companions instead of bits and pieces..... Little late but I'm not complaining
I love how missions and side characters were so trigger dependent and foreign to try to get right without videos like these. Its like dark souls before dark souls was dark souls
Long before dark souls there was ninja gaiden
@@ahabduennschitz7670 I've never been more pissed off at a game as I was at Ninja Gaiden. Took me a very long time to figure out every bosses sequence. No one in my house likes it when I play Ninja Gaiden lol
@@CatDaddyGaming Haha yeah I feel you. People who played ninja gaiden know what real frustration and honest anger are 😂 Dark Souls difficulty is a joke compared to most 80s 2D Plattformer
I confess I have never been able to do a light side playthrough. It's too fun being a dark lord.
I appreciate this, I know its worthwhile to do both a dark side and light side playthrough in these games but I just cant be evil. I just rather be a jedi and do good things
Well thank you! Hope it was helpful. I understand how you feel but it's pretty fun going the opposite way. You gotta try it out sometime. HK is hilarious as your evil sidekick.
Thanks for making this! I also played this as a kid and finished a few time. Yet had no idea how to make others a Jedi companion other than Atton lol. This really helps!
I am very happy to hear the video was helpful! Been playing this for years and I still occasionally find things I never knew about. Such a great game!
So first time playing restored content and got my first Jedi hand maiden didn't need to go to any plant's just fought her 3 times at lv 18 then talked to her then talked to kreia
Btw there's a glitch where you can turn a character that's not currently a Jedi into a Jedi, but if you find it you need a level 0 Jedi, and if you do it with a different class of Jedi as the character like using Atton to convert handmaiden, handmaiden will be a Jedi sentinel, to do it you need to get the companion and the level 0 Jedi ( I did handmaiden and Bao-dur ) go to a container that opens as soon as you interact with id ( I used the broken droid on dantooine ) and press pause and interact while playing as the level zero Jedi, than after some times you you should get a screen that shows the level screen with the container pop up over it, once you have that close the container, start the level up, the container should pop up again, close it, than switch characters how ever many times you need to get to the companion than go all the way through with the level up, and now if you did it all right that companion should now be a Jedi, and this also works with non Jedi companions like hanharr and mandolore, and there you have it.
I have seen this glitch before. Its a pretty awesome trick. I am usually too scared to glitch my games cuz I don't want to risk corrupting all my hard work. Sucks losing all your hours of gaming lol
Hey man, thanks for producing this! I am replaying this game since I love it so much and having comprehensive information video like this is amazing :D Going to watch your other videos now P.S You can convert mira to a Jedi only through talking to her. No additional external influence checks are needed
Thank you very much! Real glad to know they are being helpful. So many different play styles to try. I still find myself learning new useful tricks lol I will have to test that out. When I tried it kept getting the failure thing so the 1 influence was what did the trick for me that time.
I played this Game 5 TIMES TROUGH and never knew this. IM A COMPLETE dumie dum dum
Lol not at all! I have been playing this game on and off since it came out and there is still stuff I am finding out that I never knew about. Only cared about the lightsaber years ago, now I am really interested in the story and can't believe how much awesome content younger me didn't even realize was there!
I downloaded both kotor 1 an 2 on my phone just to have something to do but this has been a great video so thank you. I never knew you could turn art in or mira
Loved this game i remembered I did like 5 playthroughs but could never get the handmaiden to convert to a jedi, I finally did on my 6th playthrough and i also made visas marr a jedi too
I got another question is handmaiden and deciple the only ones you can't teach and the video helped so thank you
I mean the saber or force forms ?
Wow stumbled across this video and I'm really impressed by it. Only played Kotor 2 for the first time a few months back this year, years after playing the first game. I could tell my run wasn't exactly perfect, and you can never fully experience the Kotor games with just one run. I never fully grasped some of the new aspects brought in for the sequel, one being conversion of companions I had briefly read about while playing.
So I'm looking to do my second run, and wanted to do a bit of minor research going into it to hopefully improve my experience. Going to add some mods this time around as well, heard a lot of good things about the restored content mod, if you have any further suggestions I'd appreciate it.
Thanks for the guide, this info really helped me out. Earned a sub :)
Thank you very much! The conversation choices in the game are very well done.If you are not laughing from one liners then you will be learning backstory for the characters. I breezed through it as a teenager, but now playing it again as an adult, I can't believe how much stuff I missed. Definitely do get the Restored Content. Make sure to also get the community made Droid Planet M4-78. Some people hate the planet but if you enjoy the story then you will enjoy the extra scenes. It is not super amazing DLC content, but having the community restore lost and hidden game data is a pretty amazing. There is a video on TH-cam about the making of The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod (TSLRCM). It is pretty cool if you are interested. Also there a bunch of mods you should consider. The HD ones are my favorite. Gives the game a fresher look. They have HD skins for planets, your ship, and some characters. Just make sure they are compatible with each other. Updated UI and Bao-Dur looking like Darth Maul are also ones I always get. Hope this was helpful. I appreciate the time you took to comment. I am working on some more Kotor 2 videos right now. Got a lightsaber upgrade guide in the works, so hopefully that one will be helpful to you too!
@@CatDaddyGaming Yes the writing in these games is truly fantastic. Thanks for the mod recommendations and I look forward to your future videos.
Officially the cannon is that the exile Meetra Surik is Infact a female. And revan is officially a male since keano Reeves was cast as revan. I'm playing this on Nintendo switch. It'd be really helpful to use these videos, thank you
I learned English just to see these guides, good video
What?!? That's crazy! Any reason to learn another language is cool but to actually do it is amazing! That is something to be very proud of! :)
Another great video man. You’ve really helped me lol
Why thank you, I am really glad they helped you out!
I forgot to mention that you don't have to take Mira to the influence locations to turn her into a Jedi, which is nice.
I thought the handmaiden duels can be done each time you “beat” a planet by finding the Jedi master on it. Not level 12, 15, and 18
Nope, i was level 18 after the second planet and did all duels in one go.
Can’t handle this guy calling one of the most iconic characters “Visa”
Noo! Did I butcher another pronunciation. I must be super terrible at English. I forgot the "s" on the end didn't I? I looked up the pronunciation after reading this so hopefully I won't mess that up again! :(
Organizing my adaptation of the companions:
Group 1: The Aliens
Visas the Servility (red lightsaber)
Bao-Dur the Obedience (blue lightsaber, viridian lightsaber)
Hanharr the Ferality (blue shoto lightsaber [2x])
Group 2: The Strongest
Kreia the Kunning† (green double bladed lightsaber)
Surik the General (blue double bladed lightsaber, viridian lightsaber [souvenir, sometimes])
Group 3: The Romance
Mira the Huntress† (purple lightsaber, Alternate Story only)
Brianna the Etiquette (blue double bladed lightsaber)
Visas the Servility
Group 4: Droid crew
T3M4 the Navi-Computer
HK47 the Psychotic
G0T0 the Economic (droid only)
Remote the Assistant†
Bao-Dur the Obedience (he helps them out on a daily basis)
Group 5: Cockpit and Communications
Atton the Kinky (yellow lightsaber)
Mical the Wasted (viridian lightsaber, green shoto lightsaber [sometimes])
Ratrin the Lost (non-Force-sensitive)
Group 6: Miscellaneous
Canderous the Preserver (Darksaber, non-Force-sensitive)
Lonna Vash the Hope (orange lightsaber, until she witnessed Vrook and the others tell him a false revelation about him being Nihilus and ran away)
Jolee Bindo (green lightsaber, Korriban only)
Jett Darklighter (green shoto lightsaber, Korriban only)
See, the great kind feral bestial growling Milo Surik is a powerful warrior in contrast to that pacifistic "canonical" Meetra Surik.
Hey, CatDaddy Gaming. I just recently discovered Kotor 1 and 2, and just now stumbled onto this channel. Your content has been very helpful so far. I'd love it if you could make an influence guide for Kreia. Currently I'm on my second playthrough of TSL, and my goal this time was to gain a lot of influence with her so I could hear what she has to say on Revan and on her past. The first time through I made every single light side choice, so naturally I lost a lot of influence, and she wouldn't tell me anything when I went through the speech tree. I noticed that she responds well to the PC agreeing with her and generally treating her as the wise mentor, so I've been trying to do that, but I keep gaining and losing influence at the same time. So, yeah. Any advice would be appreciated! :)
These games are so awesome! Always love hearing that someone has started playing them and is enjoying it. That is a very good video idea. I have a few other ones I am working on but I will for sure add it to the list cuz I think that is a great idea. I think you have the right idea. You need to be a good little padawan and always listen to her and take her advice. I haven't experimented too much with Kreia and influence but I will for sure look more into it. I know on the Ebon Hawk she will bash the other companions and you can usually agree with what she says or pretend to only being using your companions for personal gain or to sacrifice and she will like that. She is that weird neutral but leaning more towards the Dark Side. Make sure to save your game VERY often and before you chat with her and you can quickly reload the game if you get a influence loss. I will see if I can find some more info about her influence locations.
@@CatDaddyGaming Thanks for the advice! I'm looking forward to your upcoming videos.
@@CatDaddyGaming Update: for my last playthrough I took your advice, especially saving before conversations, and I managed to unlock a lot of stuff I hadn't before. I don't know if I unlocked _everything_ , which is why I'm trying again, with a DS male this time (last time I played LS female). I'm hoping I'll gain even more influence without my light side obligations getting in the way.
A word of advice for anyone else reading this: When you get to Nar Shaddaa, if you are playing light side, take Kreia with you until you meet the refugee near the landing pad who begs you for some credits and go through that interaction, then _remove_ her from your party afterward. Whether you choose to help the refugee or threaten him, Kreia will scold you, but neither choice will cause you to loose influence. To gain influence, you just have to agree to consider her advice. But if you take her with you into the city, you'll run into some more thugs harassing some guy who owes them money. I went through all the light side or neutral sounding options, but she got mad no matter what. I'm pretty sure she would get mad at the dark side ones too. So if you're super dedicated to gaining influence with Kreia, I would just avoid this interaction altogether. Also, don't loot bodies on Korriban after she tells you not to (lol).
@@maladjustedmaverick6619 Thanks for the info my friend. I always usually cast Kreia aside for the cooler companions but I have been wanting to do a loyal padawan playthrough with her. That info will definitely be handy. Really glad to hear that the save trick is working out for you. It can save you so often. I always forget the right choice when getting Visas in the party and trying not to offend Handmaiden and this saves me every time. They did such a good job with the speech trees and having the choices and responses written. I think I have heard them all too but occasionally I will get some voice lines I swear I have never heard before lol. Amazing writing from the devs!
Everyone: ooooo, I am
enlightened person!/anger
>:( suffering!
Kreia: ...
So I messed up and only managed to get handmaiden, bao durr and hand maiden as Jedi. I went to Dantooine, Onderon, Nar Shaddaa, Onderon, Korriban. This is not a good order for obvious reasons lol.
But also I think my game file was slightly corrupted as I normally play gray leaning light and do gain some dark side points here and there and all my companions sans Kreia were waaaay off the chart light side includinf HK47, Goto and Mandalore
Thank you so much! Gonna try this out. Out of curiosity, can you still trigger the “romance” with Visas if you ignore her until after Handmaiden is converted? (This is my first playthrough as male exile so I’m unfamiliar with what is needed to trigger that with Visas.)
I’m also using the restored content mod, if that matters.
@@RedStoanPhD I am not familiar with the entire romance sequences. I could be wrong but I think that they scrapped the romance features. There are some obvious speech options that hint towards the romance feature but in the end I believe it is just dialogue and only thing they left behind was the influence. You can still gets scenes of Handmaiden and Visas arguing over you but no further romancing other than them mentioning how much they want to be with you. There are some mods out there for romancing those companions but I have yet to try them out. I do believe you can still "romance" her after waiting until you convert Handmaiden though. Visas isn't stuck up like Handmaiden is lol
@@CatDaddyGaming alright cool, thank you. All I really knew was I saw a vid of gameplay that is “semi-romance” between Visas and exile (not full on like with Revan and Bastila though), but I don’t know whether that was modded content or normal. Guess I’ll find out soon!
I wonder why most of the romance got left on the cutting room floor... though to be fair, there is far more content in this game than in KOTOR I, and perhaps they just felt like it was too much.
These videos help so much man, many thanks. The cleanest best pleasure
Thanks I was really struggling
No problem at all. Glad the video was helpful! :)
I remember manage to convert all character to light side except kreia.
But never manage to make all of them dark side, some will still be light side.
Perhaps the reason why I able to do it because of easier influence mod in workshop but idk
Thanks for the video man! I only thought you could make the disciple a Jedi before this. I do have a question tho; do you have the have the Restored Content Mod to be able to convert all these companions or can you do this in just the vanilla game?
Thanks again man!
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Sorry for the delay in reply but you can certainly make them all Jedi in the vanilla version of the game. Super fun to do since you will have so many Jedis in the party. Makes it real nice when you have to make a party without your main character. Glad this was able to help you out! :)
CatDaddy Gaming Thanks again man! I’m relatively new to the kotor games so videos like yours are so helpful!
Bao Dur as Jedi Maul got me😂😂😂😂😂
Love the video doing 3rd playthrough as female
Do you have to have Mira in your party when Traya talks about the force in Nar Shadda around three Cantina to gain the necessary influence?
No you do not. That part about the central pit from her is just for you as the exile. For Mira you just have to make sure you get the influence high enough so can ask the right questions. You will take Mira back to the central pit that Kreia shows you, but it won't matter if they are not together for both instances.
@@CatDaddyGaming Thanks for the tip, but can I only get her to a jedi on Nar Shadda?
@@Blake_Aphra Yes. You have use the Central Pit in the process of converting her. You can still get the influence gains and conversations away from Nar Shaddaa but you will have to come back to the Central Pit to do the last step.
Is there any way cuz I'm going to go to a playthrough in a couple of weeks you could slow it down in a slower step-by-step guide
There is another video on my channel of every influence location for the convertible companions. I'd recommend checking that one out.
Thank you this is awesome. How did you even find all of this out?
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. I've been playing this game for years. I got it when it first came out for the OG Xbox. I've beat the game several times over. Most of it was trial and error but Reddit did help a little when I decided to make the video. All the recorded footage was from me playing though. I made a new save slot everytime I saved so it was fairly easy to load up wherever in the game I needed to be to test out influence.
@@CatDaddyGaming cool. Im only on my second run
@@stephenthedude4383 Nice! Just as much fun the second time. Darkside run always makes me laugh out loud at the speech options. I come back to it every few months and still catch things I didn't before. Glad this game aged so well! :)
I play with RCM. I've always been able to convert Mira solely with the conversations aboard the Ebon Hawk. Great video. I love your content, it's good refreshment of my memory for my current playthroughs.
Edit: I'm currently on a female dark side consular/sith lord playthrough. I'm going to start a dark side marauder playthrough soon but I haven't decided if I'm going to do the classic route from a guardian or cross class route with a sentinel. Another thing I wanted to try is to get Mira for dark side. Would you happen to know the exact threshold of alignment I have to stay above to obtain Mira? I know she is stated as joining your part if you're light side or neutral. I want to get her then go full dark side from.
I am going to try to convert her just through conversation myself but it feels like I always need at least 1 influence gain with here. I am not sure the exact number but I would imagine, 0-40 is Lightsided, 40-60 is neutral, and 60-100 is Darksided. You probably couldn't be above 60 or you would get Han-Harr. This is just speculation also. The KSE may be able to tell you your exact alignment number too
@@CatDaddyGaming to get her to the conversion ready state you have to get the influence success where she agrees to be shown the Force on Nar Shadda at the central pit. I'm able to get her there with just her Ebon Hawk conversation branches. She is tricky because you have to two different branches in the same dialogue tree to get to conversion ready status. Just follow the same dialogue path twice, picking the two different options on each through line. I have a spreadsheet with all the influence gains and losses on my PC.
@@Vazkiel I will definitely try out her speech tree. Maybe I can get it on the next playthrough. That's awesome if you have a spread sheet with that information. I usually have to pour through 15 year old forums to confirm mechanics lol
Just found your channel and ive watched a few videos and like your content. I've played kotor 2 on original xbox and pc but and Im currently playing it on the one x (its not enhanced like kotor 1) and even the original xbox version looks better than yours. Did you overhaul your visuals for a stylistic reason or to help performance?
@jimmyjams5038 Thank you! I am glad you are enjoying the content. And I just added visual mods to change things up. Some texture mods were fantastic but some were meh. I really enjoyed the Dantooine one. The grass land needed to be more grassy in my opinion.
@@CatDaddyGaming actually yeah I didn't even realize dantooine had way more grass lol it looked really good. I used a lot of texture/mesh overhauls so I don't remember what I used on PC but I think I mostly used AI upscaling for most things to maintain the art style. Overhauled the maps, weapons, skyboxes and even the cutscenes. The upscaled cutscenes were pretty huge downloads though so I didn't get the highest resolution for those.
@jimmyjams5038 Yeah. I have the game for Xbox and for my phone and switch. Since I can't do anything with those ones they stay the same. But my PC version I go wild on. I have my Steam version tuned up real nice, and my DVD version I test new and wild mods.
@@CatDaddyGaming it's on mobile and switch too!? That's awesome lmao I need that
Deam, i didnt consider to bring her back to pit, that's why she didn't converted
Thanks CatDaddy!
I’ve already completed Nar, Dant, and obviously telos and I can’t get Atton to let me trigger the last question to let him become Jedi... is it to late?
As long as you can get some more influence with him it isn't too late. Check out my other videos on the channel. I have one that goes over every influence location for the convertible companions. You still may be able to get some from the planets you completed. But there may be some you haven't come across yet.
If you make Bao-Dur a jedi will it tank his skill gains?
I believe you are correct. You will get less skill gains for him as a Jedi rather than a Tech Specialist. I may be wrong but I am pretty sure Tech Specialist gets more skills when leveling. You could put your skill points into Intelligence to get more skills per level but that would take more than a few level ups before you got it higher enough. Guess it depends on what your going for. If he is your skill user and crafter dude, then Tech Specialist would for sure be more useful, downside is you miss out on Jedi Powers if you still want to convert him later on.
Yes sir.
I have a glich. I triggered all these conversations and when I went to nar shaddaa there's 2 Mira's and I can't get the conversation to make her a jedi. Love your videos btw
What!?!? 2 Mira's! That does sound pretty cool to see except for the not being able to convert Mira part lol do you have a relatively close save point you could reload and try again? Usually that is the trick when you run into issues like that. Just reload an earlier point and hope it doesn't happen again.
@@CatDaddyGaming I fixed it. When I would enter the area from the docks there'd be a cutscene where she's talking to a refugee, the nearest to leading pad. If Mira is in the party when this cutscene happens they'll be two, one in your party and the one who spawns for the cutscene. To avoid this glich just leave the landing pad alone, no party members and add Mira after the cutscene triggers to have the conversation by the pit to turn her into a jedi
@@nicktan9739 Nice! Glad you were able to get it figured out. Thanks for sharing what you did too. Maybe someone who is stuck in the same position will see it and know what to do! :)
I only wish there were more stuff to do in this game more quests or side quests and places i mean we're talking planets here. Each planet should have at least 10 different areas with minimum of 50 side quests lol i want a remake of this game, a semi or even better open world version with grinding and loot collections love this game still. Cheers 🍺
You can make Mira a Jedi before you even leave Nar Shaddaa.
Awesome, thank you
Good video can you make some video about different ds/ls jedi character builds
Thank you! I will definitely look into that. I am currently working on a lightsaber upgrade guide, so after that i may jump into something like that because I think that is an excellent idea! It could also include what way you should build based on what Jedi Class you chose. I appreciate the feedback and the idea my friend!
I certainly will look into this. Classes are something I have been thinking about for a while now. I do plan on putting out a Planet Order or Planet Guide here very soon though!
I want to do a Visas romance, but remain on the light side.
Do you have to take the jedi master prestige class to train other jedis or can any of the classes do that?
You can train your companions to be Jedi regardless of class. You don't have to prestige your current class either. Just gotta make sure you gain influence with your companions and you will unlock more dialogue options to get them on the Jedi path.
PHIL MCRACKIN. That made me laugh so hard.
LOL glad you laughed! Innuendos make for the best character names!
I did the part where the two dudes told me about art in and I confronted him, I passed the first influence check but failed the second and now it's not there all he talks about is that game, did I miss my chance?
You should still be able to bring up that part of the conversation again. If you failed the influence check you will need to gain some more influence with him. Probably only need one more gain if you got the first part no problem. You definitely didn't miss your chance though. You should be able to ask him again. Just try clicking through every conversation option. It is probably hidden behind a few questions about his past.
You also can’t be neutral. You have to be a certain percent light or dark side to convert people
Love your guides but why would I want that many Jedi in my party though?
Thank you very much!! I love having as many Jedi as possible. Makes the party split on Dxun much nicer cuz you have 2 separate parties with 3 Jedi each.
Could you still convert Atton if you don’t get the influence points on The Harbinger section of Peragus?
Most definitely. There are plenty more spots to gain influence with Atton if you miss some. You just need those first few if you want to convert him right on Nar Shaddaa as your first planet.
@@CatDaddyGaming any other influence spots you recommend for Atton?
@@prebomikgaming9403 I have another video on my channel that goes over every influence location for the convertible companions. Check it out!
I’m so bad at the influence portion of the game Kreia betrayed me & rejoined Darth Sion 😔
What should I do if i did the thug things on Nar shaddaa without Mira
Check out some of my other videos. I have one that will go over every influence location for the Jedi convertable companions. There are a bunch more for her you can do.
@@CatDaddyGaming thanks
Bruhh you can convert bao dur, mira, AND Handmaiden!? I finished my first playthrough without knowing at all!
I think everyone who hasn't looked up guides or videos on the game has done that. I had to play the game several times through before I could get every companion on the same run.
Recuerdo haber hecho una run hace muchos años cuando estaba pequeño y no se como había logrado que kreia tuviese la alineación hacia la luz solo a la mitad no digo que toda. Cómo fue? No lo sé. Solo quiero saber si realmente se puede llegar al tope
Creo que siempre se queda en el medio. También he intentado llevarlo más lejos, pero no creo que el juego lo permita.
How many points in awareness do i need for mira's speech path?
I think 11 or more. I will have a check my save files when I have the chance but I did see a few Reddit posts saying 11 was the amount needed for Mira dialogue trees.
Is there any way to gain influence over HK47 if you’re light side?
There certainly is but it may require you to do some dark sided actions since that is what HK47 likes. So there is some but you may have to eat a few dark side points to get the influence.
Can you repair influence over handmaiden. I've always been training her and trying to gain influence and for no reason she's mad because of visas who I haven't even spoken to.
I know you can accidentally piss Handmaiden off by being nice to Visa when she joins the party, before you even chat with her. I will usually save right before Visa enters in case I mess up the speech choices. You can use KSE (Kotor Save Editor) to manually adjust companions influence, but I have heard of Visa and Handmaiden still giving players issues even after manually adjusting the Influence level. I know that is one way but make sure you makes backups of your saves if your going to mess with the save editor. Best bet is many many save points so you can go back and fix things you messed up on. Hope this helps!
@@CatDaddyGaming I don't think that's on Xbox so I just restarted. If she gives me problems again I might just try to kill her asap
@@silloweet Damn! Hopefully it works correctly this time. Yeah don't think anything close to that on Xbox. Right when you get Visa in your party if you lose influence with Handmaiden just turn off and make a different choice so you don't lose influence with her. At least that is what I suspect the problem to be. Best of luck!
quick question. does anyone know if you convert them all to jedi will you get a different ending? or will certain characters like Visas change events to cause a different ending?
Converting will not make for a different ending but there are a variety of events where certain choices will change parts of the game or ending. Gives the game great replayability!!
@@CatDaddyGaming I fully agree! and thank you for replying! I did 2 speedruns for full light side and now I need to make a third run for DARK >:D
@@HopeEnstine Of course. Sorry it was so long. TH-cam doesn't always give me notifications so I check all comments occasionally. Speed run gets way fun after you know exactly what to do and where!
@@CatDaddyGaming Nah man you're good! the thought that counts honestly just you looking at it is enough lmao. Thank you for the info because I would have spent 200+ hours doing all the runs HAHA
If I didn’t save the thugs for Mira will I still have other opportunities to gain influence with her?
Yes! There are a few on other planets but there are also a couple more on Nar Shaddaa too. Take only Mira, Atton and Bao Dur soak the influence, and heal the dying man in the Refugee Sector. Finishing the Lootra quest with Mira and Kreia in your party might trigger one too. Take Mira with you to Dxun, you will run into bounty hunters on Dxun and Onderon, at both spots stand up for Mira to gain some influence. One for each spot. You shouldn't need more than those, especially if you got all the dialogue influence gains. :)
Is there any point to increase influence with the crew members who you've already turned into jedi i just turned Atton and I think I know most of his his backstory but I'm not sure if with more influence you can learn more or if I should get other characters influence up instead?
I am not 100% sure if there is more backstory on them after you convert them into Jedi. I will have to look into that a little bit more. And that is because once I turn them into Jedi I stop trying to get more influence with them. Usually by that point they are close to 100%. Once they are full on influence there will be no more back story to unlock. You can tell when you get them to 100% influenced cuz the cutscene will happen for them to get influence but the game will not prompt "Influence Gained". After that point there is no benefit to getting further influence with them.
Swear bao dur is the hardest one to go Jedi for me🙄😩
Question at what point do you get handmaiden added to your party
Once you leave Telos. You have to be playing as a male main character though. Female main characters will get a male companion from Dantooine instead.
I messed up the other day and made Handmaiden not want to talk to me at all so I had to change some data manually or loose three hours of progress.
At least you could change the data. Gotta make sure to save constantly and in different slots!
Nice dude you forgot about prestige class? You get it at level 15 right when you are level 15 go talk to kreia. And also if you are female you get disciple and you can also train him. Also you got discord?
I got it at level 18 right after I made Handmaiden a Jedi. I didn't know I could do it as early as 15 though, I usually go Jedi Master XD! I did do a darkside version with a female character where I covered converting him. I do have a discord, I'll put a link below, nothing fancy though!
discord.gg/8gwnpCr
Nice
Ok so i gotta ask why does everyone say Briana can only b converted at level 18? When i play as a male shes the first companion i convert and that's b4 i even beat any planet. I've heard you SHOULDNT because if her class feats but I've never had problems concerning levels.
I agree in always converting her. The Jedi feats will be better than any fighting feats she may get not going Jedi. At least that is my opinion. However, it never lets me spar with her the 3rd time until level 18. Maybe your doing something I have been missing or you have a good bug in your game lol. I have always had to wait until level 18 to get that final spar in and then I can convert her right after. Jedi Handmaiden totally worth the wait though!
Do you know if Mira has a set number of influence gain checks to be convertible like Bao-Dur does? I'm currently playing DS character but I was neutral/slightly light and went to Nar Shadaa first so I could get Mira then convert her to DS. She's maxed out DS, and I've gone through the entire dialogue checklist, and the influence check is still a Failure about taking her to Nar Shadaa the spot Kreia took you.
Sucks because I did this play through specifically to convert her and I don't think there's enough influence check missions left to convert her :( (my only planets left are Onderon/Dxun raid and Korriban/Droid Planet).
Have you done any darksided actions that caused you to lose influence with her? I only needed the one influence gain with her and it let me convert her, you may need an extra one or 2 though. I know if you lose too much with her she won't have enough to trigger the failure part. Did you go through all the dialogue options too cuz she has a few dialogue influence triggers I think. I have a video on my channel that goes over every influence location spot for the convertable companions. Think there is one or 2 for her on Onderon so you may still be able to get her done.
I'm taking the light path but my companions are on the dark path I don't know if it's a mistake
Do you have low influence with them? If you have low influence and lose influence all the time, your companions will go the opposite of your alignment.
thxs
Is this only possible on modded pc version or can it be done on the xbox version too?
It can be done in all versions! I was able to do this with my first copy of the game for the original xbox.
I’m having a problem with bao dur I have like 3 + influence w him and the dialogue won’t pop up to train him I’ve ran through all the dialogue and now when I try to talk to him my only option is “never mind” I’ve tried to talk to him on Nar Shaadda Ebon hawk and dxun on and off the Ebon hawk. I’ve already got Mira and atton
Have you murdered dudes in front of him or lost influence along the way? Usually need an extra one or two influence on him if you go darkside. It will for sure happen on the Ebon Hawk, try getting one more if you can and then going straight to the Ebon Hawk. He should open with something along the lines of your presence affecting him. Not sure if this will work but you could try talking to Kreia, in other parts of the game chatting with her unlocks other stuff so worth a shot if its still not working.
Same problem, and speaking to kreia has no other options sadly and I'm playing light side
I got it it worked for me later on
@@oliverworley5162 I wonder if you have to have him in your party for a certain amount of time. I always have him run through Telos and Nar Shaddaa with me and I can usually convert him on Nar Shaddaa. Maybe another influence or 2 will do the trick. Sucks not being able to use some spots for other companions though.
@@CatDaddyGaming thanks, good suggestion, I'll give it a check out soon
Can You make them to be on The dark side?
@danielc121 You certainly can. Some are super hard. Handmaiden and BaoDur are a bit harder since they don't like Dark Side actions but definitely possible.
@@CatDaddyGaming wow i was not expecting that You would answer me lol, but can i make them like a sith? , a guide for it would be awesome
@danielc121 If TH-cam is kind enough to notify me of a comment, I try to resond lol that is a good idea. Might look into that cuz some are kind of hard to do. They will get the Sithed out face, white and crackly, and you can give them darkside powers, but they will still be followers/companions. Won't be as in depth as main character
Does this require tslcrm or how ever you say it or is this also doable on vanilla and if so which ones are avaliable on vanilla
You can do this in all versions of the game! All the characters covered in this video and the darkside one are convertable in vanilla version
So once each companion has become a Jedi, can you turn them into Dark Jedi?
Yes you can. They will usually follow your alignment. Check my channel I have this same video but done on a Darkside run so you can see them looking all sith like. Handmaiden and Bao Dur will be the hardest to get darkside cuz they don't like darkside actions and are generally lightsided as characters.
CatDaddy Gaming thank you!
Is this a mod? Or can this be done on console?
This can be done on console. I remember doing it on the OG Xbox when the game first came out!
Why aren't you using the high quality blasters remodel?
When I first got the game for Steam I just threw on the restord content and a few texture mods. After that I went super heavy on the mods and that is when I played through again with all the fancy ones. The footage was from my older playthroughs since I had all the save points backed up. So now most my footage does have them on but sometimes I need some clips from that playthrough. Maybe I'll have to do another lightside run for some fresher footage. The high quality blasters mods is fantastic. The textures are very well done!
@@CatDaddyGaming too bad there isn't a sword remodel mod
@@davidhatcher7016 That would very cool. I haven't seen one but I also haven't looked for one. Hopefully a talented individual makes one!
the zabrak tech im pretty sure goes sentinel not gaurdian
He's for sure a guardian
@@CatDaddyGaming soldier guardian is a great tank/powerhouse combo
why does bao dur look like darth maul and how to i make him look like that
It is a mod from the Steam Workshop. Effixian's Bar Dur B Dark Start. It is very well done. There is also a version of it for the main character if you want to play as a Darth Maul looking Zabrak. Definitely check it out!
I healed dying made and got no influence and speeder won’t let me repair it I’m struggling bruh
You still trying for Bao Dur? You may have to remove the other party member to get it to trigger. Did you get all 3 speeder parts? You need those to fully repair the speeder.
Someone know when the game decide whenever you get Mira or Hanharr? Sucks ass you can't make the wookie into a sith which was planned but scraped becaus of George Lucas.
Does the decision start as early as you land on Nar Shadaa, or somewhere during the story? Think Mira says different on the first cutscene on that planet like she sense your a sith or Jedi when you arrive.
Read through a few posts and think I may have an answer. From some other forums users I have read that it is right when you get the invite to meet in the Jekk-Jek Tar. It is entirely based off your alignment. So if you are more Lightsided when you get the message for the meeting, then Mira it is. But if can manage to get more Darksided before the meeting message triggers, then you get Han-Harr.
What other options are there for Bao-Dur if you missed the speeder because you didn't have the extra part? I messed up and only got one and used it on the computer like a moron smh 🤦♂️
There a quite a few more options. If you check my Kotor 2 Playlist I have a video that covers every influence opportunity for all Jedi companions. It will show you all the ones for Bao Dur.
@@CatDaddyGaming thank you man. You're videos are awesome bro. Thanks for the help
@@brianmorgan6524 Happy to help if I can!!
Do you have to be male to turn atton, Mira etc ?
Nope. Just male to get Handmaiden and female to get Disciple. You can convert companions no matter your selected gender.
@@CatDaddyGaming thanks
bruh i did everything for mira step by step but when i try to talk to her about hanharr its a failure
Interesting! I know sometimes you need an extra influence or 2 with certain characters. Bao Dur is always iffy with me. Sometimes 3 influences work, sometimes I need the extra one. I have another video on my channel that goes over every influence spot for the Jedi capable companions. Try getting another influence gain with her and see if that does the trick.
CatDaddy Gaming yeah i figured it out, i’d also like to mention that if wait too late to talk to kreia about handmaiden she wont use the dialogue instead shell just repeat “we must go to dantooine”
@@tinyveil Glad to hear you got it sorted out. I didn't know that about Kreia and Handmaiden. Thanks for pointing that out so others can be sure to see it and avoid that issue!
Its too bad you can't make mandalore a jedi tho.
Love the channel!
Why thank you very much! :) I do agree that would be super cool. There is a glitch where you can make him a Jedi using a freshly converted companion. Can bug out your game but still cool to try out. I agree it would have been cool to influence him over to the Jedi ways.
That would actually being world breaking and kinda lame if you really think about it.