Julian Scriabin - Four Preludes
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- Four Preludes (1918-19)
Prelude Op. 2 "Lento" (1918)
Prelude Op. 3 No. 1 (1918) 2:30
Prelude Op. 3 No. 2 (1918) 3:40
Prelude WoO (1919) 4:08
The son of Alexander Scriabin, Julian (1908-1919) was a child prodigy and showed remarkable promise as a composer. His four preludes written when he was just 11 indicate his father's influence, particularly the transition phase from the middle to late period (Op. 50s). Some scholars doubt these complex preludes are written by Julian, but are rather unpublished works his father probably composed in 1907. Despite the doubt surrounding their authorship, these four preludes are potent and mature miniatures, which, if truly composed by an 11 year old, must leave us in awe and wonder. Julian drowned in a boating accident and we can only imagine what this young composer might have created had he lived longer.
Incredible for an eleven year old child. His early death was an immense loss to the music world.
Well i never heard of this kid.
Had only both the composers lived longer. It really hurts. 😞
yeah, same along with most of Scriabin's children
No way this was composed by an 11 year old. This is wonderful! Its a trajedy that Julius never made it through childhood. Tales like this makes you adore human life.
Chopin: A shame I died so young! I could have made so much more.
Schubert: Hold mein bier.
Lily Boulanger: Hold my champagne.
Julian Skryabin: Hold my...milk.
Julian Scriabin was a great composer, but died as a child, which is a great loss for the music world
T. Alexander E. Just shut the fck up, you have absolutely no idea what u are saying
Absolutely astonishing for a child composer!
@@tarikeld11 go ahead and smash piano keys like that and see how it sounds
@@jonasotte5433 Sorry for my comment, I deleted it...
@@tarikeld11 What did you say?
Interesting for an 11-year-old.
Really ingenious, those preludes are great.
For those who don't know, these works WERE composed by Julian Scriabin, Scriabins only son, shortly before he drowned in the Dniepr. That is a FACT, not conjecture. I have examined the original manuscripts myself, both in Moscow at the Scriabin Museum, where I often lecture on the composer and perform, and in the presence and at the apartment in Cap d'Ails, France, of his sister, Scriabin's daughter, Marina Scriabine.
@@metteholm4833 Drowning in Russia/Ukraine is not something out of ordinary. I myself experienced it when i traveled once again to a far away village in the north of Russia. Just a week ago before my arrival a grown woman (in her 30-40s) drowned in the Onega river in a place where you actually could stand easily...
What i want to say is that just because someone famous drowns it doesn't automatically mean that it was a murder. Especially in Russia, where people are used to spend a lot of their time in nature.
@@cccpredarmy Well. I changed my thoughts about it anyway. Remark taken down.
This all so tragic, mesmerizing, and alluring all at once... For those of you who are saying Julian could have finished his Father's Mysterium, this likely possibility strikes hard in the heart. It is infinitely saddening and cruel that (most of Alexander's children) had to die at such young ages, especially Julian, who has actually composed something. From what I understand, Alexander also has a very distant grandson, Elisha Abas, who mostly plays the piano, but has written some compositions himself. As far as I know, only one of his original works are available here on TH-cam: New York Fantasy. So it is only seemingly Julian, thus far, who had shown us promise and legacy already at such a young age... him dying so young strikes a pure fury in my heart. For me, Julian's fourth prelude (in db) [the last one here] sounds terrifyingly beautiful... those chords especially, have entrapped themselves in my mind... it's almost maddening, as I cannot stop hearing them. No, not because of insanity, but because of how enticing they are... they're so dark, and haunting. A true wonder at how such a young boy can feel so... dark. As Alexander Scriabin said before he died: "What a catastrophe!" What a catastrophe indeed, as these two people could have done so much greater, so much more, had they lived..... My God... could you imagine, what the two of them could have done together, had Alexander lived to be with his son?! Father and Son, working on Mysterium.... what a marvel that would have been.
Abas is a good performer but I don't think his music has as much originality shown by the only 11 year old Julian here
We really lost someone the day this child died.
Wow... what's even MORE interesting is that Alexander Scriabin's alleged first composition "Canon" in D Minor was composed in 1883, when HE was 11! And Julian too, now is supposed to have written this when HE was 11! Wow... just wow. Like Father like Son (;
This is just too too hard to believe. The level of harmonic sophistication in these compositions is so high. If they were by Julian completely, I am doubly sad for him. First to have died and second to have this kind of harmonic panoply as his palette, at his tender age. Here is a child who did not seem to have a childhood or was under the spell of his father's lifetime obsession with pushing the envelope to uncharted waters.
Wonder what he would've had become if he had lived longer
@@theophilephanoune9176 Older
Well his father died when he was a kid so I don't think he had a great childhood...
@@theophilephanoune9176 12, then maybe 13
Can't get the 4th prelude out of my head. It's all the qualities I love. Just the right amount of dark to timeless beauty. Somewhat reminiscent of Liszt in his later period. Takes me to the "other side". Brilliant.😁❣️💞
Sound prokofievsque
0:00 Prelude Op. 2
2:30 Prelude Op. 3, No. 1
3:40 Prelude Op. 3, No. 2
4:09 Prelude
Scriabin is one of the amazing classical composers
***** thanks for letting me know, fancy that, like the Bach family :0
@@doltifantara Well.. Julian seemed to continue on his father styles while this's totally not the case for the Bach family..
ah okay, i love so many kinds of music from classical to trance.
I have studied Scriabin's music extensively. I don't believe these pieces are by Scriabin senior. His virtuoso pieces had very complex left hand parts, unlike these preludes. His mature works often had very complicated rhythms, unlike these pieces. He did not use keys in his later pieces because of the "mystic chord," these pieces have keys. However, they also seem too sophisticated to be from a young boy. But I am more willing to believe Julian composed these pieces than his father did.
It just means he didn't adhere to conventional key signatures.
his dad died three years before writing these
He probably was influenced greatly by his dad so he wrote pieces in a similar fashion but nonetheless different
Le premier prélude emprunte clairement à un prélude de son père. On a l'impression de se trouver dans le Scriabine des opus 50, quand Alexandre passait de sa 2° à sa 3° période. Je commence à croire que Julian a été assassiné par des camarades de classe jaloux.
His father probably gave him models to learn from
He must have been hearing his fathers genius playing since his was in the womb. That would partly explain how he has a distinctively similar style to him. Its particualry similar to Scribins later mysticism works as well, which Julian would only have been able to have heard considering he was only 11.
이 곡은 11살에 요절한 Scriabin 아들의 곡이라고는 상상할수 없을정도의 엄청난 곡이다 정말 안타깝다....
11 years old???????????? wow,,,
"Prelude Op. 3 No. 1 " is amazing, to a young boy, it is not easy.
0:00 I could possibly play this.
0:32 Yeah, I don't think I can play that...
スクリャービンの真似事をした他の作曲家にはないピュアさがあるな
This is unbelievable.
unbelievably good or bad
@@ConcordMass unbelievably good.
I certainly agree that Julian might have been a stupdendous composer had he lived longer. Glad to see this performance-plus-score clip here - I've known of these Preludes for decades and wanted to hear them and see the scores, but before the Internet I never thought in a million years I would ever get to. So thanks for posting this.
Did Julian write anything else?
Nope
Who is the pianist?
this was written by julian scriabin, alexander scriabin's son. you would have known of him, i'm sure, if only he'd had more time to live. he wrote this the year he died.
He died at 11 but what age did he write this in? (God he is just too good)
10 or 11
sounds like new embodiment of ANS/
Excellent stuff. Very akin to his father's later works (if they were indeed written by the younger Scriabin).
It's quite radical. What did his father think of his compositions?
His father didn't live until he wrote any of those pieces
@MJTTOMB As I understand, there are some doubt if Julian even wrote these, which also would mean the written time is uncertain. The musical language here screams out Alexander, which suggests to me that he has played a major part in the making of these preludes (if not made them entirely without Julian).
his dad died three years before writing these
Shocking....who's the pianist?
First I've heard that there's any doubt that Julian wrote these. To previous commenters: I've seen images of A. Scriabin manuscripts, and I don't believe Julian's writing looks especially like them. Also, I don't believe these pieces are by Alexander: while a stunning achievement for an 11-year-old boy, they seem slightly flawed in places, as if to show inexperience. Doubters that an 11-year-old could compose this music should check out some of Korngold's very early compositions.
Out of interest, where are the flaws in this piece? This is a genuine question, as I am not really capable of any profound analysis of music.
@@flyingpenandpaper6119 I can't quite put my finger on it - the pieces in certain places just don't quite have the polish and sense of inexorable continuity that his father's works had in abundance. I'll listen again or examine the scores, and see if I can identify any particular points, and, if so, add more observations here.
They are still very impressive for a child to produce, and I would not be ashamed of them if I had written them myself as an adult, even.
@@flyingpenandpaper6119Right: I listened to the pieces again, and my impressions about the flawed nature were less strong than I expected. I suspect that the first piece is the main one which initially gave me that impression - seems a bit episodic somehow, and not as tightly developed as Alexander's pieces usually are.
The other three are more coherent and tightly constructed.
I still see no reason to believe that Alexander wrote the pieces If he did, they had to be written earlier, kept aside, then appear later as Julian's, and I am aware of no evidence that that happened.
Furthermore, while there is no doubt that Julian was strongly influenced by the style of his father, I would expect that in the situation. The pieces are different enough stylistically from Alexander's, though, that I see no reason to regard the style as evidence that Alexander somehow wrote them.
Finally, composers like Mozart and Korngold give sufficient evidence to me that a child of this age would, if rare and brilliant enough, be able to write music of this complexity. Doubters might like to look up Korngold's Sinfonietta in B major, Op. 5 on TH-cam; there are several versions, one showing the score as the music plays. There is nothing whatever childish about this music, although he wrote it aged 15.
Are these original manuscripts??
From the hand of an 11 year old?
No, he died in 1919 in the river Dnepr
What is the key of Prelude Op. 3 No. 2 (1918) 3:40 ? Is it atonality?
Its a tonal yes, so thats why there's no key signature. Its like a minor but with loads of accidentals.
For more along these lines, Google "Carl Filtsch."
I heard some of him, but sadly, he passed when he was 14.
I think that they're more likely to be by Julian than by his father Yes, there are bits that sound like Alexander (the third prelude here reminds me of Op 65 No.1), but overall the texture is not his. Julian would almost certainly have been influenced by his father, and I would not be surprised if he had tried to emulate it at the outset of his composing career, even if he might not have followed that direction subsequently.
Nossa se o bichinho estivesse vivo por mais uns 40 anos a humanidade iria conhecer o cosmo musicografado.
Hahahah total!!! Não dá nem pra imaginar o que ele bolaria, imagina ainda se os dois tivessem vivido mais, os dois criando juntos..........
Muito triste terem partido antes da hora :(
A child wrote this. Did they kill him?
he drowned in the Dniepr at the age of 11.
cannot believe this is composed by a child...
It was not an accident. They killed him so that he wouldn't be able to finish Mysterium written by his father. The world didn't end because the current version of Mysterium we are able to hear isn't correct. It was not an accident, I swear.
florestan eusebius there are conspiracy theories for EVERYTHING.
florestan eusebius It only takes one person to make a conspiracy theory.
Chia Nunj Sorry Chia. You are full of shit. He was not killed. That is utter nonsense.Rest assured, I am in a position to know as one of the leading Scriabin authorities on the planet, with a book to be published next year on Scriabin by Rowman Littlefield, the first major.. English language work of scholarship ever, and also as a close friend of Scriabins late daughters Marina and Elena. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you dont know what the hell you are talking about, and spreading crap of that sort does no one any good Cut it out. Grow up. Capisce? John Bell Young
BENandJUSTICE if thats all true, this is the best conclusion to a yt comments spat ever
florestan eusebius There seems to be a cottage industry in inventing conspiracies.
I'm guessing Julian got a little help from his dad.
his dad died 3 years before he composed this
These have changed. They are much more notey and not as theoretically interesting or flavorful as when I first heard them.
This was written by an 11 year old???
No way lol. That's something else.
No nie mógł 15 letni chłopiec to skomponować. To jego ojciec. A ta nawiedzona matka chciała wszystko przypisać ...genialnemu synowi...
Idon't believe any 11 year old wrote this music . I have to research the facts . He knew a lot of harmony to be ableto compose like this : it sounds much ,much too much like his father . Almost precious and decorative but not belle epoque too refined and full of depth . Has any 11 year or 10 year old ever composed music this dark ? I'm astonished that I did not know about the son nor the fact that he died suspiciously . The handwriting looks like a young child . It's astonishing !
Considering these were written at least 3 years after his father died, I think it’s safe to say that Julian did most, if not all of the composing here. It certainly isn’t music you would imagine an 11 year old writing, but then again, this is an 11 year old who was raised on the music of Alexander Scriabin - not to mention a boy with his very DNA. His drowning is a terrible loss to the music world.
You ever heard of mozart? Of course julian wrote this.
@@Whatismusic123 I don't know what you are trying to imply here, could you please elaborate?
@@themobiusfunction mozart composed far more advanced pieces at age 11, it's not a stretch to believe Julian composed this.
@@Whatismusic123 ok, I understand now
If an 11 year old son of Scriabin wrote these, then I'm Michelangelo.
Hello, Michelangelo.
Hello, Michelangelo.
Awful interpretation
Who is the pianist?