Lost Norwich - Bishop Bridge Road/Rosary Road
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Just to the east of the River Wensum, these two roads have an interesting story to tell. This video also asks questions on behalf of subscribers, and if you can help, please comment in the TH-cam comment section below.
Thanks for this history of the area where I used to live when I was teaching and researching at UEA. I have fond memories of riverside walks and a pint of real ale at the Rosary. Annie
Thanks Annie for sharing your memories.
Another sublime video thanks. I remember playing in the derelict gas works in the late 70s, Ridgeway's cycle shop on Bishopbridge Rd, playing in the derelict house that was the site of the new St. Matthew's Church where we married in 1991.
Thanks so much for all the recollections. You were playing everywhere!
I remember there was a footpath from Rosary Rd through to Thorpe Rd by the library. It was lovely in the spring with lots of crocuses
Is it the same footpath that now runs through Old Library Wood, down to Thorpe Road?
I expect so @@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
Another interesting video. Thanks!
Thank you Adrian
Wonderful
Thank you
Thankyou John. Many memories there and some things I have learned. As you know I was born at The Mount in 1950 when it was Dr Calvin Wells surgery before he moved to 75 Thorpe Rd. My mother was caretaker receptionist and had a flat in the building. Remember the Rosary Tavern actually advertised off licence sales of beer where you bought your own jug. Further along Rosary Rd at the bottom of Hill House Rd was the coach and horses pub where I had my first drink with my late dad. The area between Hill House Rd and the Cemetary was heavily bombed in the war and i grew up from 1953 in a new house on Ethel Rd. At the bottom of Ethel Rd was Charles & Violet Knight's grocery shop with a dentist opposite next to the entrance to the cemetary and then Claude Benton's chemist and post office on the corner with Thorpe Road and the Norwich City Supporter club opposite. Then further along Thorpe Rd was the Lansdowne Hotel with a methodist chapel opposite and a garage.
Thanks Theo. I am sure that those memories that you've shared will ring a few bells with others.
Super stuff. Knew that area well.
Chalk Hill leading to Chalk Hill Brewery...ho..ho.
Remember a few pints in the Rosary.
Thanks Keith
Again excellent and educational John.
Thank you Tim, hope you're keeping well
The story of Riverside Road and the Inner ring road is a bit complicated. Yes, you are right to say it is the official line of the inner ring road, but that's only half the story. In 1990 or thereabouts there was a plan to complete the inner ring road, which would have taken the Rosary Road route from the Ketts Hill roundabout for one of the carriageways, with Riverside Road forming the other half of the dual carriageway. All that was rejected and the plan abandoned. That was the end of the 1945 inner ring idea, except it wasn't.
What happened instead is the Whitefirars / Tombland /Prince of Wales Road route has become a sort of parallel inner ring route, in effect splitting the inner ring around the cathedral grounds. Which is why there's such traffic chaos at Foundry bridge, where the two halves recombine.
But the story of Riverside Road is also the story of Tombland as regards traffic and is why what should be the architectural jewel in the crown of Norwich - Tombland - isa traffic choked mess.
That's very interesting Derek, that proposal would have changed the area completely. Meanwhile as you say Whitefriars/Tombland has become an unofficial route. Thanks for commenting so helpfully.
Thank you for sharing! I miss Norwich. Can't wait to come back!
One day, Ryne, one day!
Another educating video. Thanks, John
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed it.
Before I forget to mention it, That engraving from 1829! So beautiful and detailed. Loved the Library woods too with the Lending library and the Chatting Log. These are only two highlights from this video. I've enjoyed the voice over enormously. So clear and calm- easy listening. This is my first video I have watched John, there will be many more. What an incredible researcher you are. Chapeau! 🙏 🇳🇿 🙋♀️ 🇳🇱
Thank you so much for your comments. It means a lot. And I completely agree with you about the 1829 engraving!
On a slightly different tack, when I was an art student in Norwich in 1977 I seemed to remember a fish and chip shop run by Arthur Valori, I think it may have been called the Square Deal, and I'm pretty sure it was somewhere up timber hill, but could be wrong. hope someone has a photo of it they can post . Thank you for this great little series !
Thank you - Valori had several shops, one of which might have been on Bishop Bridge Road come to think of it. Definitely one on the bottom of Grapes Hill (see Lost Norwich - Grapes Hill), but as for Timberhill, I've had a look at the George Plunkett photos, but can't see one. That's not to say there wasn't.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Yes there was a Valoris on Timberhill. fish and chip shop and restaurant up stairs.( just up from The Murderers) same side .Lovely as a kid eating there. I'm 60 soon, left Norwich behind a few years ago now.
@@stuartrudrum779 brilliant, thanks for that.
So interesting. Love your (well researched) videos 👍🏻
Thank you.
Ican remember a workmans cafe behind the advertising hoardings on this roundabout!!
Thanks, I don't think any of my old photos caught that unfortunately!
Wow, Lord Raglan was a strong character! Lots of interesting historical information, and great photos and maps.
Lord Raglan, what a dude!
Thank you for all your extensive research and travel to film these historic areas. Great job!! ~Cara 😊
Thanks Cara, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Mary Ann Skepper (1831 - 1904) who lived at The Mount is buried in Rosary Cemetary. She is described as "of independent means". She was related to Breame Skepper of Oulton Hall which was bought by George Borrow when Breame died and I think that is when she moved to The Mount.
I hope you get to find out more about The Mount.
Fantastic John, thanks for raising the question on the Norfolk Darts and Social Club
No problem, I hope you get an answer here.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich just found the old registered address on Companies House; 19 Rosary Road…just going to look at the maps now…sure enough, Chalk Hill House
@@DJWerkz yep, Chalk Hill House, indeed
The Norfolk Darts and Social Club was either just behind or to the right of what is now The Cotswold Company building(Formerly Godfrey DIY Store.) It was set back from the road.
@@chrisdunn1606 thank you so much. Sounds like it was very close to the former Evening Gun pub.
Your extensive use of old maps and photographs made it very easy to see how this part of Norwich has changed. For all I know you may have featured it in your video on Norwich City football grounds but there's a sculpture outside some new housing marking the location of the Nest.
Thanks Geoff, yes you're right, I did include that sculpture in the video about the football grounds.
I remember one night in 'The Lord Raglan'. The bar room was so small that it's the only place where I've ever been able to throw a 180 at darts.
Sounds very impressive Mark.....
I use to live on ketts hill until they knocked our houses down to widen it and loved living untill I was 10 but have never seen many photos of ketts hill with the prefabs and fairground use to be kept near us
Thanks for commenting. Check out this one for more on those prefabs. th-cam.com/video/5y7EVdHVUwY/w-d-xo.html
Fantastic, although St Matthews Church is offices, not residential.
Thank you, I didn't realise that.
I briefly attended Sunday School at St Mathews in late 50's before transferring to Thorpe Rd Methodist which I preferred
The Norfolk Darts and Social club was in a building either just behind or to the right of what is now The Cotswold Company building (formerly Godfrey DIY store) It was set back from the road.
Jazz music is always playing in the background.are you an ex trombone player?
I’m a trombonist and If you would like me to suggest some none suitable background music I’d be happy to provide some.
No, it's music that's free to use on TH-cam when you're making videos. I have to be very careful with copyright issues.
How did the Muriel get accidentally damaged?
I think it was a post office van driving into it.
Jazz music is always playing in the background.are you an ex trombone player?
I’m a trombonist and If you would like me to suggest some none suitable background music I’d be happy to provide some.