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Zen vs Vatira | Salt Mine 3 EU | Stage 2 Groups
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the respect these two have for each other is so refreshing in the competitive scene. love to see how their rivalship will develop
Everytime these two play each other I feel like it’s goku and vegeta squaring against each other haha
Well today it was Goku
@@aligoogle7532 nah zen is Goku, vatira has the sayan pride
@@guilhermecastro3671and Vatira and Vegeta rhyme
16:51. What a shot!
Absolute stunner!
I screamed till my head hurt me
@@TonGolemNpc
Absolute banger
vatira, the type of guy who would actually grow wings if he drank redbull
Watching Vatira play Zen is like 1v1ing your friend that you know every move they’re gonna do and just counter it.
Well played by Vati
salt mine completely changed how i look at top 1v1 players. Basically anyone can beat anyone if they play each other enough 😂
Vatira went absolutely APE in game 2. That was craaazy
Textbook examples of the most skilled bumps possible.. these are the clips that need to be shown to the little kids that cry about bumping
@@hhasteI don’t think many people cry about bumping especially not air dribble bumping. But when someone uses ground bumps or demos as a large part of their game it just feels like they don’t deserve to win the game as they don’t have better skills they are just more reckless and need to lean on bumps
@@imasealarparparparp2714if it’s a +ev decision then that’s bs
Vatira must have drank like 3 energy drinks before the match with how he played lmao.
It’s matchups like these where I wish we had player face cams in 1v1s
29 minute vid... Someone cooked here
😂 he's cooked really bad
It was awesome to watch it live! Never thought Vatira would overpower Zen 😱
13:05 1 or 2 taps there? 🤔
If you hit the wall once before scoring, that's called a double tap, same with the ceiling. Johnny made no mistake here
Really interesting to see how everyone has figured out how to shut down Zen after he shocked everyone with his uninterrupted mechanical aggression. Rw9 first showed that Zen's relentless attacks aren't effective as long as you are good at enough at defending, and Mawkzy, Dralii and Vatira have figured out an even better counter: getting up close and shutting Zen down before he can do any of his mechanical plays. And that strategy isn't only good against Zen, but against reactive defenders like Rw9 as well. No wonder it was Mawkzy who won stage 1
Zen literally destroyed RW9 last time they played
@@RatbaneRW9 seems to be slumping in general lately which happens. However he’s consistently beat zen before recently
zen can play like Rw9 but Rw9 can't play like zen. Those are feer's words after the match ended not mine.
@@keyton1928sweeper mawkzy tho
@@frst.4633zen can’t play like rw9 cause rw9 sweeps mawkzy. Zen get rolled by mawkzy
I did not expect this
Zen's 1's prime is officially over
Top of the world to washed in 6 months 😂
he fell off after he said becareful to mawkzy 😂
quite true. that was arrogance@@riotyy1171
@@justicebrown5486he’s a 3s player not 1s u can say he’s washed is his team is not good next season, also 1 tourney doesn’t make u washed
@@connerkemano9370he can be the best 3s Player and still be washed in 1s
these games were epic🥵
Rip zens 1 career /s... Crazy how stacked eu salt mine is
This was a fun game to watch. Vatira lookn nastyyy
I would say catching someone on top of your car on purpose is still a bump. Any car touch besides a demo is just a bump but a demo is technically a bump too
we should have quick post interviews, like in chess :)
Vati you dropped this kink 👑
I always route for the underdog… not sure who I wanted to win this one lol.
Whoa whoa!! Vati is the best of 3v3 and now... come to be one of the best in 1v1 too??
Savage 15:18
Zen is the best in 3v3 lmao
@@connerkemano9370first off, alpha54 is the one doing all the work. secondly, vitality just lost to KC in the most recent tourney.
@@TheFembunnyI dunno, if that were the case, I don’t think the team would have been failing with Saizen. A simple roster change wouldn’t turn them from a failing team to a world champion team if alpha54 was doing it all for the team alone.
On another note, I do like to see KC beating Vitality. Especially with Noly? I wish he was on the permanent roster.
Amazing show
Johnny can u explain the rules of this tournament or tag the video explaining it? Much different than SM1+2
I have my volume turned off but does this mean that after someone loses twice that they are out of the tournament?
10:02 I notice they never go for the kick here, nobody seems to understand that that's a possibility. You can just half flip back and forward again, it will be a power shot
Thanks for the content🤝🏻🤝🏻
I wish they would change the boost and hud like this looks so much cleaner
Weird to see people say zens 1’s prime is over however he’s still a young kid who has room to obviously grow and improve. Calling it now zen takes a little bit of time to improve and back away to see what he can learn
I think the issue was that from the beginning while he is a very great player his reputation preceded him. Now ppl are realizing he can swiftly be beat like any other player. It's not even his fault, the RL fans and players put that God complex on his name.
@@xxxmachiavelli7726 fr, its amazing he was able to uphold it because he lost his first game of rlcs to quadrant and had 40 points and ppl say he's overrated lol, but when he wins worlds, they put him on a pedastal. In 1s, people still gave him a god complex since he only ever lost to mawkzy, rw9, when daniel peaks he loses to him. But people don't realize, joreouz almost sweep him, vati went to game 7, lots of players almost beat zen.
@@HyperNinja917 on top of that pros are the most fluent in game, and adapt very quickly so I’m not surprised people got used to his offence.
Those are just kids that don't know what they're talking about
Unfortunately the rocket league community is mostly 12yr kids who dont know shit and think everything is based off of recency.
you should add extra minutes so we dont know who wins until last match
like rlcs does, every match is 1 hour 30 min no matter what happens
21:18 Is a ridiculous play... just wow.
Nice to see the better player destroy
That's why vatira got shat on by zen in worlds
@@frst.4633cry alone
@@frst.4633lmao exactly
Upsets galore on day 1 huh?! Sweet
Not an upset
can anyone tell me what color send fennec is ?
does anyone know what that preset is that zen is using game 1
wtf happened to Zen's bag. bro air dribble bumps so much now and wont fully commit to his aerial plays. like he doubts himself now
Players are just good bro. Aerial offense is very situational now and players have gotten very good at stopping it in general. Honestly if he improved his ground game it would make his aerial game more effective.
People put unrealistic expectations on Zen, it is impossible for anyone to play at their 100% best every game, it is also impossible to win every series.
@@Rumhy2468he hasn’t looked the same lately 😢
Vatigoat best player in the World 💙💙
Hell yea , he absolutely played like a 🐐 🔥🔥🔥
Hell yeah
I got 15 sec double unskipAble ads for this 😢
Vatira on fire 🔥
25:24 that wasn’t a demo?
No, he landed on him
zen not playing like he’s the best anymore lol
Oh my
i just feel like zen is so chilling
Lmao more like so washed it’s just readable now
@@justicebrown5486wtf are you saying 💀
@@justicebrown5486 because he lost a match against a great pro player?
you know you can like one player without trashing the other. they're both amazing players and there's no need to act that way for no reason, that's just arrogant.
Yeah so chilling to lose 3-0 while trying for sure...
@@clows7590 everything he did was so default, idk what he was trying
Okay!
Its fate of every good player to become predictable and readable once people get the hang of their playstyle.
Your talking like vatira just started playing zen recently. These guys have been playing against each other for years man. Sometimes zen wins sometimes he doesn't it's really that simple
Zen is finished
Loses in offseason and all of a sudden he's "finished" the fact that 5 ppl liked your comment is actually depressing
@@frst.4633and no one likes yours 😂
Zen let him win so he don't cry again 😁
VATI WINS EASY
Edit: I knew it but I didn’t think it would be that easy
zens better
@@user-ou6tu7rb6pVatira won
@@user-ou6tu7rb6pzen got destroyed, he’s not better. Never had a chance at the series
@@user-ou6tu7rb6phe got sweeped, plus you cant argue for 3s when kc destroyed vitality and zen did nothin.
@@gg_pat3283 have we watched the same worlds where kc got destroyed in semifinals by vitality?
Is there a way you can make videos the same length so that we don’t know who wins after the first game? Each match is about ten minutes so it’s obvious. Love the videos but it sucks when it’s spoiled haha.
He used to do that but it messes with the youtube algorithm because it sees people stop watching the video half way in.
@@impqsx That makes a lot of sense man thanks for the info
Zen vs the open net... Get apjack in a game and tell him you found a new player he cant beat
Can’t believe vatira 3-0 zen! that’s crazy!!!
In an incredible fashion
is this a meme in the community but why do so many fennec users have orange color with purple tint?
Its just a clean design
It was popularized in the French community.
Vatira my goat
He is the goat 🙂
Did salt mine not already happen what is this
Stage 2 I guess, there's 3 and finals then I guess
Great formation
I just love to see this guy lose.
Something about knowing the French fans are mad despite the fact they're guaranteed a win one way or the other
I think it isant the same zen as stage 1
Why does every goated pro just peak for a few months then fall off? It seems like AppJack was the last one then now its zens turn to dominate and now hes starting to seem less invincible. 2024 rlcs is gonna be insane!
Zens being too careful and trying too many mind games
This, he's lost his mojo. I think we all have these days/periods where we overthink, lack confidence or otherwise are missing something. Then there are those days where you can just play well effortlessly.
becareful
@@riotyy1171be careful spelling be careful.
@@PhaZeUnleashed I’ll becareful next time 😂
Zen officially washed
You're 12 years old max
@@frst.4633cry more 😂
@@aligoogle7532 you are also 12 years old max
How about you try to beat Vatira when he is playing like that.
Wtf
Like this comment!
Pass
@@scepterlitu helped
Ok
Sure
This comment is useless. You already know who wins from the first game win. It is only a 30 minute video.
Of course one of the first things Johnny says is a snide comment about starting the match without one of the players in the lobby. Something he can see, but chat can't. Wish there was a good 1v1 scene without his condescending personality. Oh well, I am glad for the content he provides.
Zen is washed in 1s
Zen lost, can’t wait for Johnny to make tons of excuses for him, Zens #1 meat rider
Yeah true zens only been hyped up by Johnny and nobody else right?
Lmao what a fucking idiot comment. Also of all the people to accuse of meat riding Johnny has always been one of the most willfully objective analysts.
keep crying
@@dujoboi Why would he cry exactly? Zen got dominated this series.
Speaking facts
@@brotherhoodofsteel3090 hes just yapping
Zen keeps on disappointing these days
bro hes not trying
@@shawnthesheep3720ofc he is. He’s a toxic crybaby he’s always trying
@@shawnthesheep3720 sure, if that's what you wanna believe. He's in a competition not trying to win
@@shawnthesheep3720 yeah as if this was ranked 1s or something lmaoo delusional ass
@@codder32 yea thats if he cares ab winning in the first place.
Zen is differnet
Vatira is differenter.
like for spoilers
Suggestion: Whenever a match starts, you tend to talk a lot about the player's history, instead of commentating on the actual match, which is a bit distracting, in my opinion. I would prefer the history part to take place before the match begins.
Fair, but just to give another opinion, I like the streams because he gives us so much context instead of just describing what we can see anyway
zen just wasn’t his day i suppose 😑
Zens had very slowly run this 2nd round of Saltmine. He's not playing awfully bad but it seems hes burnt out.
@@N.O.A_YTagreed
I hope zen will stop putting so much pressure on himself and just enjoy the game. He just can't keep trying to be perfect or to satisfy everyone. When we see how he is so doubtful of his aerial game, it feels like he is second guessing each and every one of his decisions.. Vatira is a great player but zen just lost to himself today
That’s delusion
Vatira was literally pre jumping the man. They’re both phenomenal players but Vatira was just on another one
Get Zen's balls off your chin brother.
no he lost to Vatira.
You saying the man (Vatira) who is destroying the 2s lader by a big margin, 2 times Major champions, 4 times MVP did nothing but Zen lost to himself? While before the match he was 4-4 against Zen in 1v1 matches... nah bro that's delusion
@@clows7590what a reply, RESPECT 👏
First
Killer
هههه ابلع سويب
ليش مبعوص😂
ركع أمام الأسطورة 🙂
second
Seventh
Zen suckssss
zen go play fort, cant u see ur nab?
Zen needs to be ashamed.
I feel like zen can easily beat these guys but he sells in the last minutes
Sells in the last minute? He got dominated in every single game, entire series.
Get Zen's balls off your chin brother.
lol Keep your feelings to yourself
zen wasnt trying
Gonna cry? Vatira better, rw9 better 😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@jksnax ayo relax its rocket league aint that deep
@@shawnthesheep3720 zen meatriders man
Because he got dominated by the goat
You guys have serious brain damage. Show some respect to the players.
Zen is nowhere near as good as he was back in his win streak.
Actually he's the same, but pros are adapting