| NAIROBI HIGHRISE SLUMS | Uncontrolled development in Kilimani, Kileleshwa and Lavington
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2023
- The uncontrolled development of high-rise apartments in Kilimani, Kileleshwa and Lavington areas of Nairobi is now putting a strain on the available amenities and utilities, leading to burst sewers pipes, perennial water shortages and traffic gridlocks. As residential associations decry the transformation of their neighbourhoods into what they describe as vertical slums, Nairobi Governor Johnson Sakaja says that his government is in court battling close to 800 developers who moved onto construction sites without approval, developed beyond the approved structures or simply ignored county disapprovals to continue constructing apartments.
People born in the 90's do not and will never understand how beautiful Adams, Kileleshwa, Lavington, and many other areas used to be. Beautiful because there was grass and fences without 20 kiosks lined up outside, there were walkways/footpaths, in a nut shell, there was proper planning. Today, those places are a nightmare for anyone that grew up in the 70's and 80's, very sadly, the younger generation consider those areas "posh", and I've heard them describe these areas as very good, yes, at one time but not anymore. Kenyans please don't allow Nairobi to become another Lagos, where lack of proper planning is the order of the day.
Believe me if nothing is done about it, these areas will be mega expensive slums of tomorrow.
The population in 80s is not same as 2023... Where do you want others to live...
@@LK-cb6ih Kitengela n Rongai,lots of plots of land in this satellite areas.If u have money then go buy there n build ur own expansive house at a cheaper rate than this overpriced apartments in kileleshwas n kilimani's
Hustlers nation, sponsored by some corrupt somalias, now corruption is paying back somalia buildings everywhere
Hustlers nation, sponsored by some corrupt somalias, now corruption is paying back somalia buildings everywhere
I know exactly what you are talking about. I drive through those old neighborhoods in Kile and cant believe what it has become
This is not even surprising. The whole of Nairobi is one big slum. No regulations on buildings, dirty city, illegal structures (vibandas) everywhere even hawkers and bodas blocking pedestrian walkways. Nairobi city has degenerated and is completely irrecoverable. City planners never planned for population growth. We are still running on amenities that were left behind by colonialists.
Inaitwa International City ati😂
@@filbao8113 @Filbao 😅 Such a joke man. Nairobi can be compared to Kampala, Kinshasa and the likes. Vloggers will be out here giving a false narrative showing us videos of express way year in, year out calling it Dubai and nothing beyond that. Local authorities need to up their game. It's time the City became an international city it purports to be. There is no international when we have nyanyas being sold in the middle of archives and Moi Av 🤦🏾.
@@BensonNyasae mmi nimetembew Europe let me tell u bado tunangangana😆
@@filbao8113 Hahah. That's great. You are so privileged. I wish our leaders could visit such places and import whatever knowledge they acquire from Europe, North America and Asia (Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore) into running Kenyan affairs. Imagine 2023, so many years after independence we still don't have a single metro line etc in Kenya🙄. Shameful 😅.
@@BensonNyasae kabisaa
1. Adopt new water and sewage recycling methods.
2. Ensure that every developer assigns the basement floors for cars.
3. Ensure there's sufficient space between blocks of flats to allow for natural light.
Exactly.. we should NOT stop development but ensure upgrade of outdated plans and amenities.
You will turn Kenya into another japan.. Those small apartments.. Just stop having too many kids
They know what to do! People are greedy and corrupt! Nothing ever changes. Kenya in the 1970s was beautiful.
Advocate heavily for family planning throughout the country, throughout the world.
Who is responsible for the cost of these infrastructure ideas you suggest?
Looks like we are "re-branding" ghettos and slums. Kilimani is now the new Kayole and Dandora.
Those high rents are no longer worth the money.
Don't blame the developers blame the authorities that allow this after getting their pockets lined with kitu kidogo. Lavington, Kileleshwa, are now hideous to look at. I sympathize with anyone living there.
Its literally the most developed part of the country with easy accessibility of public transport and in my opinion beatiful scenary. If you want to look at grass go to shagz
@@JoshOdhiambo How about Muthaiga
@@JoshOdhiambo it's beautiful to you but wait till the tsunamis hits like Corona pandemic lockdowns, that's when you ask the loads to shags 🤣🤣God was not a fool when He told pple to scatter but not to stay in conjected areas like this.
Your classism reflects by text from your comment.
You think these areas were designated for white peeps you are effing wrong.
@@rosemutinda3076 You said a bunch of nothing
Same in South C, in close proximity to the Wilson Airport. Boreholes sunk everywhere making the zone a disaster in waiting. the sewerage systems are also exhausted
Oh, yes, South C used to be a gem. Look at it today. Sigh.
Wilson airport aint a big thing its flooded with propellers three wheelers trotting aeroplanes unless it had turbine engine ones kama boeing or Airbus however nairobi is growing to metropolis city expanding with big population need for accommodation high rise is the only solution 🤣🤣
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
The way they are demolishing houses and erecting buildings, South C will be just like South B or even worse.
Somali thugs
Sakaja is a PR machine. Nothing will be done.
The whole town is just a mess ..dirty city,cows & hawkers competing for space...e everybody sells anything anywhere in town...it's such a oity
And people still have guts to live there. Mimi i have a phobia for tall structures. Beyond four is enough for me. 900 neighbors wueh. The irony is people will blindly move there despite the dangers.
If they broke the law then DEMOLISH THE BUILDINGS! That’s the only way to fix Kenya, enforce the laws ruthlessly because it’s not like we don’t have the laws.
This is what I was saying this morning. They should demolish them
Who builds 900 bedsitters on a one acre land in Kilimani, Conditions there are going to be terrible, with water shortages, drainage, sewage and overcrowding.
With loud music and young people partying all night night next to a single family homes with kids! Imagine 900 people right next to you in a bed sitter and yourself in a house that you worked hard for and paid 100’s of millions? Kenya is a joke😂
I can't imagine relying on punda smart water in Kile where house was on an acre with fresh subwoofer air. My opinion is just build a new capital out of Nairobi with first world planning without shortcuts.
How much do you think they will steal from that project?
I agree… Nairobi can’t be fixed… it’s beyond and still growing in a negative way.
@@mozi3051imagine a new city with sane planning. Can't live like rats in Nairobi, not sustainable
@Ipeter t I agree. Unfortunately, we have brain-dead leaders.
That's where Konza n Tatu city come in.That was the original plan but with the mediocre leadership's in this country,it is slowly turning into a pipe dream.
Other areas need this development too. Stop congesting just a few places. Spread development to the entire country.
Make where you live attractive and they will come.. the government have no say in such
Will you invest in rural roads
@@nickngunjiri4282 The government of those rural areas have collected more than enough taxes since 1963 to spearhead development. Also, investors are attracted by things like tax incentives, a good criminal justice system, decent regulation and so on. This is just poor planning, to concentrate everything in 3 areas of Nairobi while the rest of the country gets almost nothing. Unsustainable.
Ur so right there,s too much land to develop but there just developing already devlopd areas!!!
The same thing is happening in Nyali Mombasa
It is a national problem. Even Kisumu's Milimani has been undergoing chaotic densification.
Kwanza uko n worse kabsa
True it's no longer the beautiful area, tall buildings 😢 no more beautiful flowers,trees etc .
County government of Nairobi are to blame, cause they have refused to expand the existing infrastructure,sewage ,roads and water pipes. The population in urban centers will continue to grow and eventually complete anarchy.
Facts. Worse, these developments are funded by cartels, including terrorist cartels. This country is finished.
High rise slums my foot. The county government and national government must work on improving the sewer systems and social amenities. The population is growing and Nairobi will have double the current population in a few years to come.
Are you saying when population increase we should keep depleting our land with buildings? How about you stop having many kids
Nairobi is just highlighted due to the current extremity of the problem. But all of Kenya's urban centres have a challenge in coming up with proper plans and exercising fidelity to those plans as they are being worked. The problem lies in the mindsets of African most of whom have not lived through urbanization beyond a generation. The African is out of his village but the village has not left his mind.
There is nothing wrong with building modern highrise apartments to cater for rising population and create construction jobs in a stable environment. The govt just needs to address the infrastructure issues. That's why it's paid taxes.Hii maneno ya privacy can't last
Why can't they build those apartments in rongai, mlolongo, roysambu...
@@muemakiio3466 wee, Roysambu is overpopulated already
It is called zoning. Different areas must be zoned differently to cater for different needs. This madness of mixing up industries, with commercial areas and residential areas with high rise buildings sitting side by side with bungalows, mansionettes and mansions needs to be checked. And where there is need for re-zoning and/or re-planning, let there be detailed public participation. And once approved, adequate infrastructure must be put in before approval of developments in line with the new plans. High rise buildings or indeed any kind of new buildings without proper planning and prior infrastructural developments will only lead to urban decay.
I agree with you
Old money vs New money. Buy and build your dream houses in farms that are in the outskirts of Nairobi and you'll never complain. But as it is, the buildings will be coming up everyday.
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
In the 80s, these areas were 'outskirts' of Nairobi
Madness knows no bounds. We must learn to plan properly and respect those plans as we move on. Running away from one mess we have created with just create more messes at wherever you are running to. The African challenge is a mindset problem. The solution lies in fixing the mindset instead of running away from the problem that has arisen from a warped mindset. It is like trying to run away from your shadow! It just can't work. You don't like your shadow? Just make yourself transparent and there will be no shadow to run away from!
Money, be it old or new ought to fit into a plan. Urban planning is one if the biggest challenges for Africans. Perhaps because not many Africans have lived through urbanization beyond a generation. Even the very planners and executors of the plans are basically villagers with titles and academic papers, but with very little socialization in the field of urban planning. The African mindset must be shaken up to appreciate what planning is all about
ati new money? making nairobi a slum one apartment at a time-there is so much land to move to-you cant accommodate the whole of Nrb in a few areas while other lie idle
So sad we can't bask in the sun in kilee nowadays Couse of these high-rise concrete jungle
Babies will suffer vitamin D sicknesses like in slum areas
Urban growth is inevitable. So is densification. The utilities/amenities in Nairobi should be upgraded to match this. Otherwise urban planning is about foreseeing a future. Why not avail enough utilities?
Sakaja can’t fix anything
Good luck Nairobians
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True😂😂😂 but if he were to do so, it will be nice.
You mean in Nairobi there is no patrol to check that the plans are implemented, people remain in office.
Good question 🤔
Easier said than done.
Those developers have enough money to pay the entire NCA personnel for an entire year plus . They are also politically connected and very dangerous.
They take bribes and look the other way.
Eti no patrol? They "patrol" to identify places from where they can demand bribes.
The solution here is simple. Do not buy apartments from these developers.
Good idea. But try telling those "wannabes" who want to be associated with "posh Kilimani". They'll buy or rent anything and then share a single room with 10 other people.
The "bora ni kilimani"- attitude
@@suihtflava Nigerians do that everywhere they go even in London
That not the problem, the problem is with those people who bought it long time ago when rules were being followed 😅
But why should the apartments not be bought yet approving and enforcing agencies gave the greenlight for their construction? Are you suggesting that it would be in order if a developer chooses not to sell but rather to retain and rent them out? Those agencies responsible for maintaining order in the city must be called out for failing in their duties.
The problem is if u research it's most likely immigrants refugees doing this that's why they need to go home there is no war in Somalia, they do this even in Nyali just to have a high end address in Kenya for cheap
When I saw kileleshwa kilimani after ten years gone from Kenya I was suprised at how fast it turned ghetto.
Obviously these developers have contacts within the office of the governor and NEMA...How else did they get approvals and even if later disapproved, constructions still ongoing? Disapproval of construction means the county government can get court orders to bring down the buildings. It's a whole lot of stench in these offices
The same thing that happened to the once Beautiful Buru Buru Estate! The place is turning into a slum now
It's not turning,it's already a slum just like umoja and donholm.
No it didn't, most of the houses that were built have remained the same. There no high rise buildings
@@mojojojo6525 😂do you leave in the high-rise buildings😏
@@martoweche536 no
@@mojojojo6525 High rise buildings is not the only route to slums. Buru Buru and indeed most of the old well planned middle class estates have been reduced to slums through extensions abd grabbing of public spaces. The African problem is a mindset problem. Africans left their villages fir the cities, but the villages never left their minds. They live and think as if they are villages of the old days. Zero respect fir development plans, taka taka all over, unplanned extensions of planned buildings, peeing all over the place, spitting and throwing out phlegm with wanting abandon, and oh yes, you see smartly dressed ladies and gentlemen driving smart cars, throwing maize cobs and banana peels as they drive! And thinking about it, on average, the urban dweller in Kenya has been urbanized for less than 15 years. The urbanite in Kenya is actually a villager who has been transplanted into urban centres.
Things are changing population is growing I think the developers are doing a good job in settling people. However they should adopt supporting infrastructure alternative to the existing one. However the older entitled home owners should adopt to the changes Nairobi is for everyone
Well put
Exactly, whoever wants upcountry lifestyle in Nairobi should buy 2 Acres of land and drill a borehole. City council being the service providers shouldn't be whining of limited resources. They are the ones to provide since they collect taxes for the same
Every projet is required to pay an amount to the county, it should have been used to upgrade the infrastructure.
But why can't they go and build such in other parts like rongai, roysambu, mlolongo etc.. Every country should have a Beverly hills like estate.
How about you stop having kids.. Apartment destroy the nature since they don't encourage planting of trees
But some of these residents' associations are insufferable elitists. Nairobi is one of the fastest growing urban centers in sub-Saharan Africa, it was only a matter of when rather than if highrise buildings were going come up sooner or later. Let's learn to accommodate everybody. The question is, why are we still using amenities from the pre-colonial and early post-colonial eras? This is a failure on the urban development authorities' part and not the developer's.
Proper planning?
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
The issue is not whether you have high rise buildings or not. The challenge is on how they come about and in how well planned they are. The challenge lues in having a severe mismatch between the state of infrastructural support vis-a-vis development of high rise building. There is need for proper planning with clear zoning policies. Then we need to respect those plans as approval for new developments are done.
You can't justify urban decay in the name of accommodating everybody. Plans take into cognizance where the society is and where it is projected to be in future. Kenyan society is very diverse economically. There are low class, lower/upper middle class, and then the affluent. There is a pattern in the growth of these segments. Any plan that ignores those realities of existence is utopian, and will only lead to urban decay.
Same in south b it needs to stop
but honestly the population is growing and young upcoming rich generation also want to settle in places like these .....so the old generation that time has changed ...kileleshwa cannot be where it was 10 yeras ago.....but the county government should enfocr on planning for these building so that it doesnt turned out to be another eastlands🤣
Its already Eastlands.....copy of Pipeline if youve been there.
Lol😂😂 when I visited kenya, I wondered how nairobi became ghetto.
We are not disapproving new buildings but it should have some sort of organization
In 5yrs it will be the next kibra pro
Old generation, new generation .. so what..you new generation cannot multitask, can't do math without a calculator, cannot light fire without matches, do not know what a comb ( kichanuo is), can't tidy your compound, clean your bedrooms .You wear clothes that show all your business in the name of fashion.... do not even know what REAL LOVE is. And you now want to teach us urban planning and development. NNKKTT..
Oh how things (don't) change!!
South C is heading the same direction. When I was growing up there was no house with more than 3 floors.
Sakaja just said that they will approve up to 75 floors 😮
Good job Developers make housing affordable. 😊
😂😂😂those people are Afraid kilimani will be cheap
@@NewtonWebster they are the owners of the fake buildings buit in in 1900s
I don't think you and Newflix get it. Neighborhood's become run down because of exactly what is happening now. Overcrowding, congestion, and generally not a good place to live in. There will be water, drainage and sewage problems. In addition I can guarantee you that that particular developer has not left any grounds for children or "proper" parking.
@@Lulu-po3knthose two DEFINITELY DO NOT GET IT. Just ask them what “urban planning” is….you will hear crickets. This is the prime example of no education (education via bribing for papers) and poor thinking parents for examples of excellence.
@@Lulu-po3kn Don't relocate to Nairobi to live. Just come work and back to ushagoo
If one is accustomed to privilege equality can feel like oppression. Instead of complaining about the amenities they are complaining about the "new comers" 😂
Urban planning does not create equality. Instead it takes cognisance of the socio-economic diversity in society and plans differently for different classes so as to match their diverse needs and means.
The cumulative price of corruption.
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Exactly 💯
Bingo!
I don't think stopping developments is a solution maybe consider extra taxes to the rental properties to cater for the additional strain on the infrastructure.
For land and home buyers I think buying land in close proximity to the town center you cannot expect it to remain the same for 50 years!
You must be flexible to the changing times and embrace the fact that developers can equally offer you compensation for relocation.
If Developers can adapt and install water saving appliances in these high rise buildings this can greatly reduce the pressure on water resources and ground water .Toilets account for about 30% of water usage in these houses if they can install low flush efficient toilets like our arumloo toilets this can save Upto 70% of water which can translate to millions of liters in water
"If..."
Good planning is wholesome. Water is just one of the many pressures that arise with helter skelter construction of high rise building in a zone ought not have them. Urban planning requires foresight and discipline. Knee jerk responses arise because of poor planning.
Nairobi is a conundrum. The market demands for housing near cbd to avoid the insane commute times of 1 hour plus and traffic. Such developments that benefit many are pushed back by people who want to be exclusive despite not living in an estate. The government is pushing back and refusing to update old infrastructure that will benefit many. Developers have seen this incompetence and are simply moving forward as the demand is overwhelming to allow for issues like privacy or legality, as long as the construction is sound, everything else be damned
What the rich don’t get is that… it’s just a few of you and the rest of the millions want what you have… so guess what… it’s your responsibility to make sure rules are followed… lakini you guys with your wealth have sat aside and watched or even broken the rules far from where you lived… it’s coming home now.
That's a scarcity mentality. It is a mentality founded on the false logic that if your neighbours have and you lack, then you can only have by taking away what your neighbour has or bring yourself to the same level by destroying what he has. That's a narrow scarcity mentality. Abundance mentality is founded on the rich mindset that states that there us everything in abundance. You can create whatever you need without destroying what your neighbour has. After all the neighbour you are envying created his wealth without destroying someone else's wealth. Don't destroy my comfort for you to experience comfort. Don't destroy my peaceful and quiet enjoyment of my environment for you to experience peaceful and quiet enjoyment. There is everything in abundance fir everyone. Just stretch your mind a little
Agreed@@georgeodhiambo598
Kahawa Sukari has been really STRICT about this.
Kahawa Sukari falls under Kiambu. The madness of converting leafy sub-urbs in Nairobi into concrete jungles emanated from Nairobi Kanju. They re-zoned some parts of Nairobi without public participation. The whole of Kilimani and Kileleshwa was rezoned to become high density settlements. Likewise, half of Lavington was rezoned to become a concrete jungle.
@@georgeodhiambo598 that's interesting information. Good to know. Thank you.
1:25 Why are developers putting buildings right next to each other ? No view or air circulation. Greedy developers and stupid buyers..
Sad indeed. That's why they are referred to as vertical slums.
Join the club! - said a Githurai, zimmer and pipeline resident. 😂😂😂 atleast yours are classier.
😂😂😂 all the OG estates have been ruined
@@brian_jake 😂. Lakini bedsitter 900 ni too much. M3 za getho kilimani.
Huyo wa 1 acre walai … huyo ndo biznezz man 😂 hawa wengine ni jokes…
He He He! Kick the "classier" out. Just another ghetto waiting to happen 😅😅😅😅
South B also facing the same concrete buildings at a fast pace
Once upon a time kirinyaga road, kilome road, etc. were residential areas. Time is unforgiving. Simply walk away. Look at the European community that felt karen was taking in everyone a word which is relative in use. They left to laikipia, nanyuki, lewa downs in meru, burguret nyeri etc.
Wake up kilimanis before you loose nice areas in kajiado along the cliffs and vantage points. The are many others who have left and poor you people left complaining there.
Poor people blame others, while rich people take action for their own destiny.
Why are you mentioning white people....is this their country
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
Those Europeans are running away from African madness. The problem around all this mess is the African mindset, which focusses on destroying what is existing and creating nothing and introducing alot of rot in its place. The villager having found himself in the cities is busy turning them into a village, and oh yes, Europeans with many generations of urbanization are running away in horror. It is nothing to be glorified.
Agreed. My parents sold their home in karen/langata and moved to Kajiado in the mid 1980's. Best move ever. My dad kweli was a giraffe. He had forseen all these urban issues.
@@Kittygacha_playz Wow, your dad had foresight, that's when everyone else was moving to Karen and thinking it's a great idea.
May GOD help you , Governor Sakaja.
Please also force these developers to collect and tap rain water.
So sad that this 'development' isn't structured or organized
Did you see that. Acres with 900 units… how will harvesting train water cater for that population… that’s a slum right there.
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
Very true it has turned out to be more crowded more dirty and disorganized that you feel u r no longer in the lavington 8 years ago. Every other day something comes up
Corruption destroying Nairobi.
Selfishness ..why can't they upgraded those amenities..sewerage, water system instead of whining or go start another estate elsewhere.
Things never remains the same no matter what.
No one is asking that things remain the same. What is being rightly demanded that change ought to be a well planned activity with public participation.
City council need to acquire more land from taxes they collect instead of whining, they should ncrease volume of water supply, and sewer capacity. The population is growing, the city is growing and so is the taxes. Else no one has control over the type of house I build in my land more so the title deed indicates absolute owner.
Those BC generation need to move to upcountry where there is enough space or buy huge land in the city and drills their boreholes instead of trying to impose control on people and their property.
There is no such thing as absolute ownership of land or real estate assets in cities. Land in cities and even lower urban centres is subject to physical plans of each urban centres. You subdivide your plot as you wish. You can't put up structures disregarding plans for that zone. You can't bury your deceased relatives in your compound even thought there might be adequate space. The zoning and planning for each area might even prohibit you from keeping cattle. Towns are planned!
@@georgeodhiambo598 How do you interpret this👉 " This is to certify that XXX is now now registered as ABSOLUTE proprietor of the land comprosing of above mentioned " It's in every Title deed whether in CDB or village unless it's under lease or other entanglements.
That's why you can put skyscraper in any Estate. They will take you to court but they will loose. You will only loose if you have faulted NEMA,NCA or the area is not zoned as residential in which case you can still apply change of user certificate else all permits are granted if you follow the right channel.
@@kelvinmuthami4147 Let me bring you up to speed on a few points. There are different types of ownership of land in Kenya. The ownership documents that have statements like "absolute" are called TITLE DEEDS. This ownership type is also referred to as FREEHOLD. They appertain to absolute ownership, not only on the degree of freedom as to what you may do with the land but also that there is no limit on the period of ownership. Such TITLE DEEDS are often issued in areas that have a strong rural nature.
Then we have a second type of land ownership. They are called LEASEHOLDS and they not only limit you to the duration of ownership but also imply that the plots will revert to the body/person (the lessor) who has leased it to you (the lessee) upon expiry of the lease period. The lease may come with terms for use. They are usually 99year LEASEHOLDS. And the document issued for such ownership is referred to as a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE (and not title deed!). That's the kind of land ownership that is found in major towns and cities.
In such a case, the LESSOR (Govt of Kenya/County Govt/etc) has a major say on how you, being the lessee, may use the land LEASED to you! Remember it is a LEASEHOLD with a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE but not a TITLE DEED!
That's why you freely bury your dead relatives within their compounds in rural areas, but you dare not try the same in the city, even if you own a 5 acre plot on a LEASEHOLD ownership.
I own properties on 99 year LEASEHOLD in the city with CERTIFICATES OF TITLE and I also own properties in rural areas on FREEHOLD with absolute unlimited period of ownership, with TITLE DEEDS, so I know what I am talking about.
The structure and wording of the two types of document are entirely different.
Finally, it goes without much debate that you cannot put skyscrapers in any part of the city because firstly, the city is zoned to control the kind of structures and activities that are permissible in any area. Secondly all developments have seek and obtain prior approval before commencement of construction. It is the County Govt that changed the zoning guidelines for Kilimani, Kileleshwa and half of Lavington without detailed public participation. The other half of Lavington remains intact under the previous zoning guidelines The rot began with the County Govt and its predecessor, City Council.
You can't stop the Change....Time to upgrade the sewers n water supply we are a growing city n the government must be able to adhere with the change
Kenyans want Affordable housing. Let them build everywhere as long as they are descent houses. Developers have nothing to do with water shortage. It's the work of County government to add more sewers and more water.
Let's be serious and know that kenya belongs to all of us and not to few rich people.
Very stupid comment here. Cause government is who? It’s you and I!!! Meaning the setup has to think of all of us. But because you think with your feet you and your children and your children’s children will be a burden to Kenya for a very long time.
@@JadeReal😂😂😂😂😂😂let mw just laugh. Haujamshow poa
@@JadeReal OK. Time will tell.
Modern cities need proper planning,categorising residential areas from high end to lower middle class.We can not mix all together and expect to be classified as modern metropolis.
@@justinamusyoka4986 exactly! Well said!
Development must take place
This is a non issue. Cities change all the time . The developers are providing housing at their own cost. I dare anyone to live in another African country and see how difficult it is to get decent housing even when you have money. I'm so grateful to be back in Kenya.
Nairobi to become another Lagos,
its the unregulated building thats the problem. they should only build if there is electricity, water, sewer system and proper infrastructure that accounts for road safety and other types of transport then using a car. nairobi is just complete chaos now. it shouldnt be like that. they should invest in other cities so that you dont have to live in nairobi for a good job.
if you do it, do it right. in 10 years this will be a even worse place to live inm.
cities wil always change. they should make sure that its a good/positive change, not a bad one. and its possible. look to europe. not every big city is chaos.
The fact the cities are changing is not an excuse for introducing urban decay. Changes must be within the context of a plan. And there are procedures for preparing and altering urban plans. Helter skelter construction of structures disregarding urban plans in just an invitation for chaos and urban decay.
Most of the developers are Chinese paying off the governors . Smh
Hamieni umoja
Developers are doing good job.
These high-rise buildings avoid encroaching on farm land. There should be laws to protect farm land
I knew this was bound to happen. Let them stop
When M-pesa was invented, financial institutions were like prrrsssstttttssllslsssllshfrvhvfhfdhhc!!!!!! Today, these institutions accommodate every aspect of M-pesa. Change is inevitable. Tell the city council and government to upgrade the essential amenities; you mean rich guys.
Have you seen japan apartments? That's where we are headed to 😊
Mpesa and urban planning are very different concepts. Stop mixing up issues
If there is no land for 2-4floors that means people have to go to 10floors inorder to accomodate people, the problem is not developers its the goverment which cannot adjust fast to changes. People cannot be using same pipes as 50yrs ago
Good job,we are coming to live in Kilimani also,watu wa bedsitters
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Do u afford 200k +?? Apartments aren't cheap either
Eee tunapanga kuhama Ruaka tukielekea huko😂😂
pumbavu
rent ni ya Kilimani but congestion ni kama uko Pipeline
it would be pure misery
What good will it do you to run away from your natural slum then to export your slum mentality to a pish area and create another slum? The problem with where you live now is because of your slum mindset. It has been stated before that if you hand over a posh estate to slum dwellers, they will most likely convert it into a slum within a short time. But if you hand over a slum to posh estate dwellers, they will quickly convert it into a posh estate. The problem is not with where you live, but your own mindset.
No problem here with high rise building. It is government that does not plan well. Poor infrastructure.
this is one of the side-effects of tolerating extreme rural to urban migration.
Nairobi is growing, people should adapt or even move to other remote areas. Nairobi county should go ahead and construct sewage and drainage. The county government should make sure that there is running drainage well.
Nairobi to become another Lagos, you will understand when you live in the traffic
Thank you! That's the point I'm trying to make Reuben. Proper planning is all we need.
It is those who are invading zones catering for the affluent who should seek their place of habitation in those remote areas you are talking about. Why should an invader be accommodated at the expense of residents of a zone of affluence?
Even Mombasa old town is a sad case.Houses packed together like teeth.
The population is growing and housing is a necessity. All stakeholders need to settle matters infrastructure
Started in south c...
The whole of Nairobi is gonna be a slum even muthaiga in the next 5 years
Muthaiga is a little strict… give them 20 yrs.
Muthaiga has alot of embassies.....that will never happen...plus muthaiga is very strict...Matatus are not even allowed
With developments used to launder money from international cartels, including drug and terrorist cartels. The ignorance of the average Kenyan regarding their failing country is shocking.
@@upstar21t a matter of time
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wacha wajenge tuweze kiushi nyumba ya 4k kilimani.
😂😂😂😂😂na ndio nasema watu watahama ungwaro kilimani here we come
Such development's should be demolished to set example
After ten months the governor now says Nairobi is becoming small day in day out and that the only way to manage this is to go up(have skyscrapers)😅😅😅
Developers know that Nairobi County is not going to do anything, once they built, the county doesn't have the balls to demolish the buildings.
Nairobi has too many refugee immigrants from neighbors countries, thus pressure on sewarage, water, and takataka.
New York went through the same thing.
This is happenning in all parts of Nairobi, but you take such seriously because it involves posh surburbs as if its not fellow humans living in other parts of the region.??
I thought by the constitution establishing county governments basi kutakua na urban to rural migration, kumbe Bado Kuna status quo. 😀😀😀. Our Mombasa is next!!
Every county you travel ni hizi rental slums its like thats the only biz
A very worrying trend. Soon the boreholes will run out of water and honey suckers will be their daily visitors
Lawlessness is the law until it becomes common for punishment to manifests as the consequence of breaking the law. Demolition should also be exercised.
City authority should bear the blame and not developers, approvals pass through the same offices and they are not ready to work on amenities.
ii ni uchoyo wako nayo ju now more people can afford to live there
Nyumba zijengwe na mpango
How I wish Isiolo becomes our new capital as vision 2030 had planned. The nearest alternative being Konza technopolis. Nairobi as we know it is increasingly being disfigured before our own eyes. It can remain our commercial hub. In the model of Abuja (NGR) & Dodoma (TZA) respectively. Isiolo and Konza are centrally located and has plenty of land.
I thought Affordable housing was among the agenda for almost 15years. If they build more houses, rent will drop drastically
Nabii itabidi aje he nyumba mingi
If the population keeps increasing so quickly, do not expect the housing prices to ever fall... Family planning should be heavily promoted and encouraged to avert disaster.
Even mansions within the zones of affluence were affordable to the affluent class It is different strokes for different folks.
Tell them 😢😢😢😢
The people complaining about the beautiful high-rise buildings are just jealous they are not able to do the same. Like most people have commented the government simply needs to upgrade the social amenities to keep up with rising demand. Same people complaining about the high-rise buildings drive 5 private cars per family into the city each day causing traffic snarl ups when they can take public transport like the rest of us who can't afford a personal car and complain about the traffic jam caused by too many small cars. Your sin though different from mine is still a sin.
But why are we using systems from 50yrs ago?
Has anyone observed the same in Kahawa Wendani? 😳
Bana kwanza hio njia nyumba ya Denver. Rent imepanda sukari na wendani students can't even afford anymore that's why many migrated to ruiru.
Imagine these 'highrise' slum properties are sold out. Kenyans tuko na shida
I think the population has grown and you can't compare it with the population of 19th century there is a need for more housing gardens for children to play so the story of four story buildings is Sustainable at this point alow them to construct bt consider policies that are therein to followed either for climate change, population demands , tourism and so on
That same thing is happening every developing City
Pack your items n sell ur property at high value reside somewhere else
The county should provide all necessary services to the developers actually we should consider this as development
wanaogopa changes
Think! Not every change is a good change.
Wakiona wamepita standard ya the current development waende Karen... Kilimani ata inafaa kuwa part of CBD
My friends visit other developed countries...you complaining about development, change is inevitable
There is planning in developed countries...
Apartment blocks are not built so close to each other such that residents are forced to have their lights on during the day...not to mention the problem of mold due to poor air circulation....
They also leave areas or parks for children to play ...etc
@@Nina-tf2wy so who is supposed to solve your problem the own of the building or the government?
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The government of course...but we all know just how deeply rooted corruption is in our country
Does development mean that we should just let developers flaunt contribute laws and create an environment with terrible amenities?😂😂either you don't have reasoning skills or you're intentionally being misleading and hard headed.
If people are dumb enough to buy, don't blame the developers.
20m for such is just stupidity.
South C Kilimani and Kileleshwa is the new Eastlands😅
Change is inevitable. Time to sell at a premium and relocate to another leafy suburb.
Also, devolution has failed. Why are other counties habitable in the sensse that we dont have to rush to Nairobi?
How do expect a person to buy land worth 200millions then build a short building. That will not be profitable to them. Reduce the price of land first
What happens to those who paid off plan 😮
Effects of voting mtu wetu think it won't catch-up to you 😢😢 thugs
Wacha all this happened with Raila in the handshake one of the most corrupt person who pretends he fights for common people
What's their point? Maskini arudi slum azidi kuwa maskini ama?
This is what these people seem to be saying. Why can't they advise the government to work on the amenities etc
You seem to be clueless about controlled development. So you want Nairobi to be like another India? We already have more slums and we can’t risk to have another ones. And what makes you think those bedsitters cheap?