Just wanted to pop in to say that, no, you do not need Sprigg's dopplegang to recruit Janice. You can, in fact, get her with only the base monsters, you just have to rely on instakills.
Agreed. Round 1: crossbones and two Randoms- kill the bull with instant kill Round 2- Lagoonate and kick the harpoon dude. Used a goblin too for carnivore. Round 3- wraith, punching lion guy and umbrella dude. Kill the flying bone guy 1st. Gg you did it. Also, run away if the instakill doesnt work and try again. The bull is annoying.
No wonder I thought it was ridiculously difficult, I didn't know you could add monsters to the list with sprig. It took me 8 or 9 tries but I ended up getting lucky with hell soul/hellbound for the win.
Mediocre is overselling that grid, it's terrible, but dopplegang is so good she's amazing anyway, especially since all her monster forms have absurd accuracy, letting you spam level 3 attacks constantly. On hard hitting forms like lagoonate or wight knight this absolutely shreds boss's health bars, though you do have to watch out for her low hp.
Something I learn on my recent playthrough on Radical Dreamers is that you don't need Sprigg on your party to get Monsters. Any character equiped with the Forget-me-not equiped that deal the finish blow will capture them. I found this by accident when I was using Lenna, Glenn and Serge (all equiped with fgm) on Ozzie, Slash and Flea and got all 3.
There's definitely several things you've missed, boiled down to enemies in Home World and Another World that have the same name have different dopplegangs. This means that most of the creatures you listed have two different dopplegangs, where you did not define which one of those dopplegangs you meant.
Just to add, you can get a second Forget-Me-Not Pot by stealing it from Peppor when you fight them on the Isle of the Damned (this could technically be the FIRST one you get, as you can face them before going to Chronopolis).
Not only did you prove to me Sprigg is top tier, you've given me a desire to re-run my game of Chrono Cross. Why? To immediately go to the Isle of the Damned ASAP as Lynx. If she ends up better than Karsh / Glenn for me or up there, I'll consider her status in the tier list. Super hype video thanks for all the awesome tips on the Forget-Me-Not-Pot. I got 2 in my first play through and used Karsh to kill creatures and steal their info for Sprigg. I mainly used Sprigg to abuse CusCus early on. Now she's got a lot more going for her than I thought!
You only have to kill a monster once, & regular enemies are mostly pretty weak. Even the slightly tougher enemies are easy to catch if you pay attention - every enemy has an 'injured' stance they adopt at low health and that's the sign for Sprigg to dopple back to normal form (if necessary) and throw out a tornado. Bosses are where your strength matters, and bosses can't be captured anyway, so you're free to dopple into lagoonate or taurminator or wight knight or what have you and wreck face. Sprigg takes set up, and knowledge, but absolutely kicks butt when you know what you're doing. Definitely worth another run to give her a try.
Great video again! You basically covered everything I think is needed! I always just try to add these comments with things I know from speedrunning the game (which actually is sometimes less than some casual playthroughs since a lot of the running the game is specific to a route everytime haha). But just to add what I know from using Sprigg in the run, in case it helps anyone reading: Firstly, the 2 dopplegangs we use in the speedrun are Lagoonate and WightKnight (2 of the good ones mentioned; And yeah, Wightknight is good enough for awhile that it is worth for us to still get it even though its optional!) . Also, You touched on it in the video as well, but yeah, Gauntlets and other accesorries dont boost anything on Sprigg's dopplegangs stats (they always revert to a static value when dopplenganged into)! This comes into play for the next things; We use Sprigg's dopplegang for like hours 2.5-4.5 in the 7~ hour run. This is because when we are first able to get Sprigg, Lagoonate (and soon after, Wightknight) are such powerful physical-based dopplegangs (seriously, they are so good for how early you can get them). However, we end up stopping our use of Sprigg's dopplegang towards the back-half because of the static value thing. After we get the Mastermune with Lynx/Serge, that outscales the damage Wightknight even does (cause it doesnt grow with levels!). But, for casual use, there is a lot of really cool and powerful things Sprigg's Dopplegangs can do!
I kept sprigg in my party until I got kid back, she’s awesome! I only replaced her with kid cause it felt more thematic, and I wasn’t about to let Fargo go, sooo…sorry sprigg
I manged to get the Wight Knight dopplegang and it absolutely demolished Miguel, made that fight so easy. Was doing nearly 300 damg per hit with level 3 melee attacks
Great video as usual! You can also get infinite Dragoons Glory with the Viper Lvl 7 tech glitch in Termina but really if youve got sunglasses and the two regular Dragoons Glory it isn't strictly necessary unless you also want Viper to have 3 lvl 7 Techs.
Despite knowing about Spring already, these videos are always fun to watch. Esp when I still learn new things. Such as equipment values and new game + things. 😮😍
She is something of a glass cannon. Still worth investing the time and attention in for her strength and flexibility. defensive buffs, particularly phys & mag negate, go a long way, and thankfully wight knight even comes with phys negate. They don't last long, but at the rate Sprigg can put out damage, that's not much of a problem.
Remaster OP, click the right stick and you evade every single attack and max element level at all times. You know, if having Janice is more important than feeling any pride about how you got her.
Sprigg equipped with the Forgetmenot Pot is SS tier & always makes it into all my teams. Why? For her ability to copy OZZY, SLASH & FLEA (the 3 hidden bosses in New Game + from the original Chrono Trigger). In fact, the only time I swap out Fargo for Glenn (or Serge) is when I want Sprigg to morph into SLASH & use the ONLY TRIPLE TECH MOVE IN THE GAME with Glenn & Serge. 😁
There's two triple techs in CC, the other being Delta Force with Serge, Leena and Razzly. Missed opportunity for them to not add another so that there would be three triple techs and have it be a reference of sorts.. It would have also lined up with triple techs only having a third of what double techs have as there are nine double ones.
So hold on.... I always thought the glasses reduced the damage you take, not increased the damage you deal. Is this true for both the Sun and Moonglasses or are they different?
@@tantaclesam trying to figure this out.. I just got into S.S. Zelbess quest, where I will become a cat... I really forget about this game, but thanks I will try to steal from from Peppor boss very late game, I will 'capture' all monster....
It's not criminal, it's just that she's not very sexy XD I was thinking of this game today as an example of collectivism versus individualism. In the Kaliyuga, the 'Chrono cross field effect' would be 2 parts fear what others think, to 1 part stand out if you want, but it's a turn off. Whereas in the Satyayuga, it's just the opposite. Most people are strange and powerful in such times, like Sprigg, however again, with so little focus on narcissistic ideals... not a lotta hotties around. Maybe, I'm still working on that part. Anyway, I think the field effect is real. That's why all things conformity wins the battle in our age, while in golden times, it was peoples uniqueness that got them their spoils. When it starts getting dark, you can't win the war with more tanks. The cumulative effect of the age is to go along to get along. You CAN however win it with printing presses, as has been shown. It's not so much about good versus evil, as it is about fate keeping things changing, so they don't end up like the Dead sea TV studio, a stagnant tomb. So many great parallels in games. Thanks for the video, I needed a place to put this contemplation.
Yes, hence the individualism I was talking about... guys like me don't say astroturfy things like all the other good little collectivist boys and girls do XD
Corrections/additions:
1. An extra forget-me-not pot can be stolen from Peppor on the isle of the damned!
Just wanted to pop in to say that, no, you do not need Sprigg's dopplegang to recruit Janice. You can, in fact, get her with only the base monsters, you just have to rely on instakills.
Agreed.
Round 1: crossbones and two Randoms- kill the bull with instant kill
Round 2- Lagoonate and kick the harpoon dude. Used a goblin too for carnivore.
Round 3- wraith, punching lion guy and umbrella dude. Kill the flying bone guy 1st.
Gg you did it. Also, run away if the instakill doesnt work and try again. The bull is annoying.
@@barrywertz6274
Yop. It's annoying, but possible.
No wonder I thought it was ridiculously difficult, I didn't know you could add monsters to the list with sprig. It took me 8 or 9 tries but I ended up getting lucky with hell soul/hellbound for the win.
Mediocre is overselling that grid, it's terrible, but dopplegang is so good she's amazing anyway, especially since all her monster forms have absurd accuracy, letting you spam level 3 attacks constantly. On hard hitting forms like lagoonate or wight knight this absolutely shreds boss's health bars, though you do have to watch out for her low hp.
Something I learn on my recent playthrough on Radical Dreamers is that you don't need Sprigg on your party to get Monsters. Any character equiped with the Forget-me-not equiped that deal the finish blow will capture them. I found this by accident when I was using Lenna, Glenn and Serge (all equiped with fgm) on Ozzie, Slash and Flea and got all 3.
There's definitely several things you've missed, boiled down to enemies in Home World and Another World that have the same name have different dopplegangs. This means that most of the creatures you listed have two different dopplegangs, where you did not define which one of those dopplegangs you meant.
Just to add, you can get a second Forget-Me-Not Pot by stealing it from Peppor when you fight them on the Isle of the Damned (this could technically be the FIRST one you get, as you can face them before going to Chronopolis).
OOOOO THIS IS A GREAT TIP
was going to say exactly this, but i'm glad someone beat me to it.
Not only did you prove to me Sprigg is top tier, you've given me a desire to re-run my game of Chrono Cross. Why? To immediately go to the Isle of the Damned ASAP as Lynx. If she ends up better than Karsh / Glenn for me or up there, I'll consider her status in the tier list. Super hype video thanks for all the awesome tips on the Forget-Me-Not-Pot. I got 2 in my first play through and used Karsh to kill creatures and steal their info for Sprigg.
I mainly used Sprigg to abuse CusCus early on. Now she's got a lot more going for her than I thought!
I win
You only have to kill a monster once, & regular enemies are mostly pretty weak. Even the slightly tougher enemies are easy to catch if you pay attention - every enemy has an 'injured' stance they adopt at low health and that's the sign for Sprigg to dopple back to normal form (if necessary) and throw out a tornado.
Bosses are where your strength matters, and bosses can't be captured anyway, so you're free to dopple into lagoonate or taurminator or wight knight or what have you and wreck face. Sprigg takes set up, and knowledge, but absolutely kicks butt when you know what you're doing. Definitely worth another run to give her a try.
You can also steal a Forget-me-not-pot from Peppor when you fight him and Solt at the Isle of the damned.
Great video. I didn't know you could 86 the enemies with elements to get them for Sprigg, what a relief.
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Congratulations for the best content about Chronno Cross!
Thank you!
They fixed pips glitch in the remastered. Another TH-camr did all the testing and stuff
Great video again! You basically covered everything I think is needed! I always just try to add these comments with things I know from speedrunning the game (which actually is sometimes less than some casual playthroughs since a lot of the running the game is specific to a route everytime haha). But just to add what I know from using Sprigg in the run, in case it helps anyone reading:
Firstly, the 2 dopplegangs we use in the speedrun are Lagoonate and WightKnight (2 of the good ones mentioned; And yeah, Wightknight is good enough for awhile that it is worth for us to still get it even though its optional!) . Also, You touched on it in the video as well, but yeah, Gauntlets and other accesorries dont boost anything on Sprigg's dopplegangs stats (they always revert to a static value when dopplenganged into)! This comes into play for the next things; We use Sprigg's dopplegang for like hours 2.5-4.5 in the 7~ hour run. This is because when we are first able to get Sprigg, Lagoonate (and soon after, Wightknight) are such powerful physical-based dopplegangs (seriously, they are so good for how early you can get them). However, we end up stopping our use of Sprigg's dopplegang towards the back-half because of the static value thing. After we get the Mastermune with Lynx/Serge, that outscales the damage Wightknight even does (cause it doesnt grow with levels!).
But, for casual use, there is a lot of really cool and powerful things Sprigg's Dopplegangs can do!
Should I DM you on twitch if I want to collaborate? 😉
@@veghesther3204 idk what to say to this other than it's objectively wrong haha
@@veghesther3204 uh, i guess i'd just watch some speedruns to learn some more about it if i were you haha!
The bear has been poked
I kept sprigg in my party until I got kid back, she’s awesome! I only replaced her with kid cause it felt more thematic, and I wasn’t about to let Fargo go, sooo…sorry sprigg
I manged to get the Wight Knight dopplegang and it absolutely demolished Miguel, made that fight so easy. Was doing nearly 300 damg per hit with level 3 melee attacks
I been binge watching your content, keep it up!
Spring with the lagonate was op, yeah
So happy you’re enjoying it! Hope you love Monday’s video!
Great video as usual! You can also get infinite Dragoons Glory with the Viper Lvl 7 tech glitch in Termina but really if youve got sunglasses and the two regular Dragoons Glory it isn't strictly necessary unless you also want Viper to have 3 lvl 7 Techs.
Patched
Despite knowing about Spring already, these videos are always fun to watch. Esp when I still learn new things. Such as equipment values and new game + things. 😮😍
White Knight is all you need the only downside is her HP Pool isn't so great
She is something of a glass cannon. Still worth investing the time and attention in for her strength and flexibility. defensive buffs, particularly phys & mag negate, go a long way, and thankfully wight knight even comes with phys negate. They don't last long, but at the rate Sprigg can put out damage, that's not much of a problem.
"The only way to beat grand slam" laughs in default team because i didnt know any better.
Remaster OP, click the right stick and you evade every single attack and max element level at all times.
You know, if having Janice is more important than feeling any pride about how you got her.
Ewwwww
Sprigg equipped with the Forgetmenot Pot is SS tier & always makes it into all my teams. Why? For her ability to copy OZZY, SLASH & FLEA (the 3 hidden bosses in New Game + from the original Chrono Trigger). In fact, the only time I swap out Fargo for Glenn (or Serge) is when I want Sprigg to morph into SLASH & use the ONLY TRIPLE TECH MOVE IN THE GAME with Glenn & Serge. 😁
There's two triple techs in CC, the other being Delta Force with Serge, Leena and Razzly. Missed opportunity for them to not add another so that there would be three triple techs and have it be a reference of sorts..
It would have also lined up with triple techs only having a third of what double techs have as there are nine double ones.
@@xOmniCloudx RIGHT! I forgot that one. It was so difficult to get Razzly's Lvl 7 Tech & thus used her very little.
There is a second forget me not pot you can steal it from solt (karsh quest) isle of the damned
You are rockin the hell out of that shirt my man.
Combot might be the strongest. Comes with max HP (999)
So hold on.... I always thought the glasses reduced the damage you take, not increased the damage you deal. Is this true for both the Sun and Moonglasses or are they different?
Wow! Incredible information. New game + gets real
can you make a full list of all monsters and location, but in chronological order, please... thanks
Second question mark haha keep up the good work
I ain’t stoppin’!
Guide to chronosphinx. Equip Serge with yellow plate, win fight, GG.
if I gear Forget-me-not on any with my party member, do I have to put Sprigg in my party as am doing the final blow with that party member?
Nope. Just kill with a physical attack.
@@tantaclesam trying to figure this out.. I just got into S.S. Zelbess quest, where I will become a cat... I really forget about this game, but thanks I will try to steal from from Peppor boss very late game, I will 'capture' all monster....
Would you do a play walkthrough please? I would love a commentary with it. You have a nice voice.
first! love the channel!
Thank you!
Pure Gold
plot twist: you and sprigg are cousins, you REALLY looks like her O.O
Dat binch stole my nose
I've been playing this game for 10+ years and today I learned that Sprigg is female. nice ahahaha
I mean… maybe she isn’t
I don't use her either 🤣
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Noooooob😊 good vid
It's not criminal, it's just that she's not very sexy XD I was thinking of this game today as an example of collectivism versus individualism. In the Kaliyuga, the 'Chrono cross field effect' would be 2 parts fear what others think, to 1 part stand out if you want, but it's a turn off. Whereas in the Satyayuga, it's just the opposite. Most people are strange and powerful in such times, like Sprigg, however again, with so little focus on narcissistic ideals... not a lotta hotties around. Maybe, I'm still working on that part. Anyway, I think the field effect is real. That's why all things conformity wins the battle in our age, while in golden times, it was peoples uniqueness that got them their spoils. When it starts getting dark, you can't win the war with more tanks. The cumulative effect of the age is to go along to get along. You CAN however win it with printing presses, as has been shown. It's not so much about good versus evil, as it is about fate keeping things changing, so they don't end up like the Dead sea TV studio, a stagnant tomb. So many great parallels in games. Thanks for the video, I needed a place to put this contemplation.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Yes, hence the individualism I was talking about... guys like me don't say astroturfy things like all the other good little collectivist boys and girls do XD