It's actually quite simple - Veldora wins in both the anime and the current light novel version against Diablo. No disrespect to Diablo, he's undeniably powerful, but you have to recognize that Veldora holds a significant advantage as a true dragon. Not only is he a true dragon, but he also possesses the most magicules among his true dragon siblings, making him even more formidable. True dragons are at the pinnacle of strength in the series, and regardless of Diablo's age, Veldora surpasses him in power. Spoiler alert: Veldora currently ranks as the 11th strongest in the light novel, the original source material. While Diablo is certainly one of Rimuru's strongest subordinates, Veldora would defeat him single-handedly. This doesn't mean Diablo is weak, as he has some incredible hidden abilities, but ultimately, Veldora would come out on top.
Diablo's ep i.e 6,666,666 is what he showcases. His actual ep is much more. What's scarier is the fact that in the world of tensura, efficiency matters more than ep. And Diablo's efficiency in magic is 2nd only to ciel.
Why some of you doesn't look on the perspective of the author using noir as a special piece in tensura laughtrip. He is so good in creating diablo as a support ,unique ,unbalanced, and like hisoka aura in hxh. When Guy go to cardinal world before diablo long time ago he fought several powerful nemesis and saw there potential and power as a warrior . when diablo met rain and fought her and use multi dimensional disintegration to delete rain with intention to deceive guy and rain with his true potential to assist sion. Diablo ask Guy,when that time red is so powerful who fought rudra,velzard,milim and velda and seen there power prowess . Diablo ask Is there stronger than them in current world? rather than true dragon id think there is -guy . When Guy test Chloe no one can see whats happening at extreme speed rather than diablo even luminas ,leon,rimuru doesnt know what happen. Chloe (chronoa) at that time is killed by Guy back then before she time travel. Those who says also that diablo is draw with guy in hell because of instant revive is funny. Guy didn't say He killed diablo nor the author. It states so clear always draw, laughtrip dont mix your hatred with ur emotion in analysis. Diablo who is fighting zelanus toe to toe which is not at good state. Zelanus who fought milim in battle mode and survived dragon nova used by milim with intention on deleting him. Fought Diablo which is not in a good shape lmaoo but get the chills of fighting milim even small. Draw him in the fight a 100m+ ep being even he is not in his good shape. Manipulating 6m ep mainting diablo thing (author is smiling like diablo ) to show the clue on what his plans in creating this character. EP doesnt matter with Diablo. what Guy Crimson did in the past can also done by Diablo if he undergo the same process guy knows this. Fighting Velzard with no US but ended draw . True Dragons are Strongest being but Red and Black can toe to toe with them cuz they are very exceptional . Guy knows how powerful his Chess piece in the world. Also ,those who says Milim is above Guy Crimson cause Guy cant stop milim in rage mode and receive help with ramiris to calm milim did not used their brain properly but emotion. Can Milim stop Guy Crimson if he is in rage mode? She cant even stop zelanus and escape . Im not saying that milim is weak because those who read LN and Manga knows how truly strong she is but saying guy is weaker than her nahh. That Guy Crimson is standby right now doesnt fought anyone besides velzard at this point as a mediator . Many characters received level up but doesnt mean guy is falling behind lmao . Those who says veldora one shotted diablo needs ciel in their membrane. Even zelanus survived battle mode milim and her dragon nova . Analysis over emotions bro. I have read LN and Manga . Guys you should use your Ciel and Raphael Membrane. Don't let emotions over you . I salute you all for reading both LN and Manga . Lets wait for volume 22 and enjoy.
Man..diablo's overall power and his ep doesn't make sense.zegion's ep also didn't make sense but later it's revealed that his actual ep is 68m+.I hope diablo also gets something like that.i mean bro was casually fighting zalenous with the mood to kill him if zegion doesn't recover in time.114m zalenous vs 6.66m diablo😮.just so you know,zalenous is stronger than veldora,so maybe diablo can hold his own against veldora.but in underworld or otherworld,diablo cooks veldora☠️
Haha zalenous is stronger than veldora seriously bro😂. Veldora is stronger than zalenous, Diablo,& zegion. Veldora is true dragon and also master of zegion. Do you really think diablo Or zalenous would able to defeat veldora
This is more difficult because why veldora is more powerful than Diablo. Even at the end of the series where Diablo got stronger, Diablo is more skilled than vandora. So if I had to guess you know Diablo might be able to win by compensating with his superb skills to make up the difference in power. But we're talking like Diablo right after he got named. Then definitely veldora because the gap of power is just too big at that point
Veldora wins and it’s not fair ,people hear how Diablo and guy used to be rivals and now spread misinformation that Diablo≈guy it’s just untrue guy has an humongous head start two names and one of the most busted ultimate skills
Veldora Negs Diablo, and it isn't even remotely close The only advantage Diablo has is being smarter,more experienced, and a better fighter than Veldora But that's practically useless against a powerhouse like Veldora It's like Putting Perfect Cell against Kid Buu or DBS Broly Diablo isn't even a digital lifeform,and Veldora was going toe to toe with Ashura, something I highly doubt Diablo can do
Veldora have much more power then any other being, but diablo also have a very powerful ability he is hiding. In volume 22 we will seen the hidden ability of diablo. i hope diablo was control his mana number because he respect rimuru very much. in volume 22 we will seen the fight between diablo and felway.then we could judge diablo vs veldora .
Diablo didn't hide anything, he simply has instant resurrection which made his equal to Guy. Demon lord Guy with unique skill almost draws against Velzard, but at that time Velzard only testing Guy, Diablo also has the same level of powers that all... Feldway is like 5 times stronger than Velzard, and having a fcking castle guard... Diablo is so weak that if only he fought Feldway, then it was just a very big down play to Feldway and Michael's powers...
@@Vee-np1xz guy crimson is warrior. he can't recognise a rival who couldn't be given him a tough fight. diablo is a intelligent and tactician warrior.so diablo was fighting against guy crimson without resurrection. lastly they was end up a draw . instant resurrection ability make him a unbeatable warrior both realm. so there none individual can beat diablo against serious fight. even veldora ,velzard, velgrayind,guy crimson, rudra ,felway(true power), milim nava wouldn't beat diablo against serious fight. they all would end up draw against diablo. diablo has exceptional sharp mind ,ability and skill that is why he can fought toe to toe against tough and formadble foe. they are more twice or 20x+ time stronger then him. in volume 21 we was saw the diablo fight against zelanus,diablo have existent value 18x less then zelanus. Even diablo was fighting zelanus without using his full power .although zelanus couldn't beat diablo with his power.they are both use half of power fight against each other.But diablo also state that in full power fight he might be beat zelanus. Diablo was fighting against zelanus without use tull null power,but zelanus wasn't beat diablo.Now we can state that without a doubt diablo stronger then zelanus.I think we will seen the ture ability of diablo in fight with felway. In volumes 22 i hope diablo will be fight against felway and the end they both draw against the fight. I hope you can understand my point of view after you read this.
@@AbuTalhaTalha-lm1sl Diablo draw against Guy more then 20,000 year's ago, in present time period Guy was almost 1000 stronger then when he draw Diablo. Diablo can't draw any of those people's, the difference between him and the true dragon is huge... Don't you see Carrara become pop stical in just with Velzard's presence, Diablo would the same. Zalanas was the weakest true dragon more like a little stronger than Zalario, Zalanas Destraction attacks are so low, that it cannot break even a multidimensional barrier of Diablo. Zalanas is nowhere near true dragons Velzard, Veldora and Velgrind. Let alone Guy was not even stronger than Velzard. Diablo can defeat Zalanas with turn null, but without it he would just lost in 3-4 months. Feldway is totally different level, with all those attack powers and defences, Diablo would be an ant in front of Feldway. Feldway EP can increase his EP 70 million to1 billion if he wants, Feldway has mammon which can change abilities into energy if holder wants. He has Michael which is simply broken, he has Armageddon to sommon more followers, he has judgment bullet, Chronoa Salvation more more more and more... Zalanas was even an ant in front of Feldway lol...
Veldora is Strongest in tempest after rimuru . Noway diablo can beat him and if they seriously fight veldora easily use rimuru power by soul corridor .
Well to be fair, we have not seen how powerful Diablo in any of the series. I would think he would still win given the battle experience he accumulated. Though Veldora is powerful, he only risen when he met Rimuru. He might over power Diablo but knowing Diablo, he would resort to something unconventional tactics. That's what I think but I can also see a draw fight.
It's either a draw or veldora win.....there's a little chance that diablo will win compared to veldora winning.......I mean first of all, because of Veldora's overwhelming magicules.....with exception of veladanava, veldora is the true dragon that has the most magicules and Veldora learns veldora killing arts in which he learned from the mangas he read....so even if he does not have much experience, he now has techniques......veldora is weaker before even though he has the most magicules simply because he lacks techniques and he doesn't know how to use his overwhelming magicules but now, it is no longer a problem......if it is the diablo now vs the veldora from 300 years ago, then diablo will win but if we compare their current selves, veldora will win cuz of the amount of magicules he has plus he has probability manipulation as well as his ultimate skill which can lead him to the truth of the world....with his skill, he may even figure out diablo's skills and that's how powerful his ultimate skill really is.
@@S0e1_Temp3st Yeah I sense that someone will say these already because I already thought about it as well. Maybe its just me rooting for Diablo since a real fight for Diablo was never outlined in the manga. So let's just call it a draw. Again, I see your point when you say Veldora will win but if a real battle will occur between them, I'll still bet Diablo to win...
With turn null Diablo might be able to win but can’t Veldora also use turn null since he has a soul corridor with Rimuru
It's actually quite simple - Veldora wins in both the anime and the current light novel version against Diablo. No disrespect to Diablo, he's undeniably powerful, but you have to recognize that Veldora holds a significant advantage as a true dragon. Not only is he a true dragon, but he also possesses the most magicules among his true dragon siblings, making him even more formidable. True dragons are at the pinnacle of strength in the series, and regardless of Diablo's age, Veldora surpasses him in power. Spoiler alert: Veldora currently ranks as the 11th strongest in the light novel, the original source material. While Diablo is certainly one of Rimuru's strongest subordinates, Veldora would defeat him single-handedly. This doesn't mean Diablo is weak, as he has some incredible hidden abilities, but ultimately, Veldora would come out on top.
Diablo's ep i.e 6,666,666 is what he showcases. His actual ep is much more. What's scarier is the fact that in the world of tensura, efficiency matters more than ep. And Diablo's efficiency in magic is 2nd only to ciel.
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Veldanava is nothing to do with creation of True dragons and primordial Demon...
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Why some of you doesn't look on the perspective of the author using noir as a special piece in tensura laughtrip. He is so good in creating diablo as a support ,unique ,unbalanced, and like hisoka aura in hxh. When Guy go to cardinal world before diablo long time ago he fought several powerful nemesis and saw there potential and power as a warrior . when diablo met rain and fought her and use multi dimensional disintegration to delete rain with intention to deceive guy and rain with his true potential to assist sion. Diablo ask Guy,when that time red is so powerful who fought rudra,velzard,milim and velda and seen there power prowess . Diablo ask Is there stronger than them in current world? rather than true dragon id think there is -guy . When Guy test Chloe no one can see whats happening at extreme speed rather than diablo even luminas ,leon,rimuru doesnt know what happen. Chloe (chronoa) at that time is killed by Guy back then before she time travel. Those who says also that diablo is draw with guy in hell because of instant revive is funny. Guy didn't say He killed diablo nor the author. It states so clear always draw, laughtrip dont mix your hatred with ur emotion in analysis. Diablo who is fighting zelanus toe to toe which is not at good state. Zelanus who fought milim in battle mode and survived dragon nova used by milim with intention on deleting him. Fought Diablo which is not in a good shape lmaoo but get the chills of fighting milim even small. Draw him in the fight a 100m+ ep being even he is not in his good shape.
Manipulating 6m ep mainting diablo thing (author is smiling like diablo ) to show the clue on what his plans in creating this character.
EP doesnt matter with Diablo.
what Guy Crimson did in the past can also done by Diablo if he undergo the same process guy knows this. Fighting Velzard with no US but ended draw . True Dragons are Strongest being but Red and Black can toe to toe with them cuz they are very exceptional . Guy knows how powerful his Chess piece in the world. Also ,those who says Milim is above Guy Crimson cause Guy cant stop milim in rage mode and receive help with ramiris to calm milim did not used their brain properly but emotion. Can Milim stop Guy Crimson if he is in rage mode? She cant even stop zelanus and escape . Im not saying that milim is weak because those who read LN and Manga knows how truly strong she is but saying guy is weaker than her nahh. That Guy Crimson is standby right now doesnt fought anyone besides velzard at this point as a mediator . Many characters received level up but doesnt mean guy is falling behind lmao .
Those who says veldora one shotted diablo needs ciel in their membrane. Even zelanus survived battle mode milim and her dragon nova . Analysis over emotions bro.
I have read LN and Manga . Guys you should use your Ciel and Raphael Membrane. Don't let emotions over you . I salute you all for reading both LN and Manga . Lets wait for volume 22 and enjoy.
Man..diablo's overall power and his ep doesn't make sense.zegion's ep also didn't make sense but later it's revealed that his actual ep is 68m+.I hope diablo also gets something like that.i mean bro was casually fighting zalenous with the mood to kill him if zegion doesn't recover in time.114m zalenous vs 6.66m diablo😮.just so you know,zalenous is stronger than veldora,so maybe diablo can hold his own against veldora.but in underworld or otherworld,diablo cooks veldora☠️
Diablo would probably be too smart to fight against Veldora. Diablo's "despair time" might not even work on Veldora.
Haha zalenous is stronger than veldora seriously bro😂. Veldora is stronger than zalenous, Diablo,& zegion. Veldora is true dragon and also master of zegion. Do you really think diablo Or zalenous would able to defeat veldora
@@by_mistake29 still,bro was sparring with milim.(before absorbing that queen)
Veldora is stronger than Ashura, and Ashura is stronger than Zelanus
need to comment this.. where did you get and confidently sure that zelanous is stronger than veldora????🙄
This is more difficult because why veldora is more powerful than Diablo. Even at the end of the series where Diablo got stronger, Diablo is more skilled than vandora. So if I had to guess you know Diablo might be able to win by compensating with his superb skills to make up the difference in power. But we're talking like Diablo right after he got named. Then definitely veldora because the gap of power is just too big at that point
After first😅
True dragon vs Primordial.... of course the TRUE DRAGON would win
Veldora wins and it’s not fair ,people hear how Diablo and guy used to be rivals and now spread misinformation that Diablo≈guy it’s just untrue guy has an humongous head start two names and one of the most busted ultimate skills
Diablo's ultimate skill azazel is also quite busted though.only if this persuaded power....
Veldora Negs Diablo, and it isn't even remotely close
The only advantage Diablo has is being smarter,more experienced, and a better fighter than Veldora
But that's practically useless against a powerhouse like Veldora
It's like Putting Perfect Cell against Kid Buu or DBS Broly
Diablo isn't even a digital lifeform,and Veldora was going toe to toe with Ashura, something I highly doubt Diablo can do
It's more like mid diff cause diablos pretty efficient in magic and that matters alot
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Veldora have much more power then any other being, but diablo also have a very powerful ability he is hiding. In volume 22 we will seen the hidden ability of diablo. i hope diablo was control his mana number because he respect rimuru very much. in volume 22 we will seen the fight between diablo and felway.then we could judge diablo vs veldora .
Diablo didn't hide anything, he simply has instant resurrection which made his equal to Guy.
Demon lord Guy with unique skill almost draws against Velzard, but at that time Velzard only testing Guy, Diablo also has the same level of powers that all...
Feldway is like 5 times stronger than Velzard, and having a fcking castle guard...
Diablo is so weak that if only he fought Feldway, then it was just a very big down play to Feldway and Michael's powers...
@@Vee-np1xz guy crimson is warrior. he can't recognise a rival who couldn't be given him a tough fight. diablo is a intelligent and tactician warrior.so diablo was fighting against guy crimson without resurrection. lastly they was end up a draw . instant resurrection ability make him a unbeatable warrior both realm. so there none individual can beat diablo against serious fight. even veldora ,velzard, velgrayind,guy crimson, rudra ,felway(true power), milim nava wouldn't beat diablo against serious fight. they all would end up draw against diablo. diablo has exceptional sharp mind ,ability and skill that is why he can fought toe to toe against tough and formadble foe. they are more twice or 20x+ time stronger then him. in volume 21 we was saw the diablo fight against zelanus,diablo have existent value 18x less then zelanus. Even diablo was fighting zelanus without using his full power .although zelanus couldn't beat diablo with his power.they are both use half of power fight against each other.But diablo also state that in full power fight he might be beat zelanus. Diablo was fighting against zelanus without use tull null power,but zelanus wasn't beat diablo.Now we can state that without a doubt diablo stronger then zelanus.I think we will seen the ture ability of diablo in fight with felway. In volumes 22 i hope diablo will be fight against felway and the end they both draw against the fight. I hope you can understand my point of view after you read this.
@@AbuTalhaTalha-lm1sl Diablo draw against Guy more then 20,000 year's ago, in present time period Guy was almost 1000 stronger then when he draw Diablo.
Diablo can't draw any of those people's, the difference between him and the true dragon is huge...
Don't you see Carrara become pop stical in just with Velzard's presence, Diablo would the same.
Zalanas was the weakest true dragon more like a little stronger than Zalario, Zalanas Destraction attacks are so low, that it cannot break even a multidimensional barrier of Diablo. Zalanas is nowhere near true dragons Velzard, Veldora and Velgrind. Let alone Guy was not even stronger than Velzard.
Diablo can defeat Zalanas with turn null, but without it he would just lost in 3-4 months. Feldway is totally different level, with all those attack powers and defences, Diablo would be an ant in front of Feldway.
Feldway EP can increase his EP 70 million to1 billion if he wants, Feldway has mammon which can change abilities into energy if holder wants. He has Michael which is simply broken, he has Armageddon to sommon more followers, he has judgment bullet, Chronoa Salvation more more more and more...
Zalanas was even an ant in front of Feldway lol...
@@Vee-np1xzLet's see what will be happen in volume 22.I hope what i said earlier would be happen in future 22 volume.
Diablo will never be able to revival Feldway, I highly doubt even in volume 22, he'll be a threat to Ashura, let alone Feldway
Veldora is Strongest in tempest after rimuru . Noway diablo can beat him and if they seriously fight veldora easily use rimuru power by soul corridor .
Veldora wins.
Diablo is (with Masayuki) the most overated Tensura character.
Diablo fans are on the same level as Goku fans sometimes.
Bro I am a diablo fan but I no that diablo can not win against true dragons
Yeah, Veldora was going toe to toe with Ashura,something I highly doubt Diablo can do
It doesn't help that he isn't a digital lifeform yet
Diablo's EP doesn't reflect that he is empowered by emotions. If Rimaru told him to go away, Diablo would be defeated.
Moreover, his ep 6,666,666 is what he showcases. His actual ep is much more. What's scarier is that his efficiency in magic is 2nd only to ciel.
I think veldora wins low diff cz of his soul corridor with rimuru with imaginary collapse
Diablo also have a soul corridor with rimuru
So can he access the imaginary collapse and true dragon release ,I don't think so ,even if he can he still he loses cause of probability manipulation.
Neg diff
Well to be fair, we have not seen how powerful Diablo in any of the series. I would think he would still win given the battle experience he accumulated. Though Veldora is powerful, he only risen when he met Rimuru. He might over power Diablo but knowing Diablo, he would resort to something unconventional tactics. That's what I think but I can also see a draw fight.
It's either a draw or veldora win.....there's a little chance that diablo will win compared to veldora winning.......I mean first of all, because of Veldora's overwhelming magicules.....with exception of veladanava, veldora is the true dragon that has the most magicules and Veldora learns veldora killing arts in which he learned from the mangas he read....so even if he does not have much experience, he now has techniques......veldora is weaker before even though he has the most magicules simply because he lacks techniques and he doesn't know how to use his overwhelming magicules but now, it is no longer a problem......if it is the diablo now vs the veldora from 300 years ago, then diablo will win but if we compare their current selves, veldora will win cuz of the amount of magicules he has plus he has probability manipulation as well as his ultimate skill which can lead him to the truth of the world....with his skill, he may even figure out diablo's skills and that's how powerful his ultimate skill really is.
@@S0e1_Temp3st Yeah I sense that someone will say these already because I already thought about it as well. Maybe its just me rooting for Diablo since a real fight for Diablo was never outlined in the manga. So let's just call it a draw. Again, I see your point when you say Veldora will win but if a real battle will occur between them, I'll still bet Diablo to win...
Not really, Veldora was going toe to toe with Ashura, something I highly doubt Diablo can do
Not to mention he isn't even a digital lifeform yet