@@myasesaleh4631 Buddy. Jesus has a divine and a human nature. Dyophysites and Miaphysites agree Jesus had a divine and human nature. Jesus eternally has the divine nature from the sole cause, The Father. He receives human nature when he becomes incarnate from the Virgin Mary. You don't understand metaphysics so don't step into metaphysical arguments. If he is begotten of the Father he has divine nature, once hes physically begotten by the Virgin Mary he has human nature. The Trinity is one in divine shared essence. Pay attention genius.
@@myasesaleh4631 1. The Trinity: One Essence, Three Persons (Hypostases) Core Teaching: Orthodox Christianity teaches that God is one in essence (Greek: ousia) but exists in three distinct Persons (hypostases): the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Key Points: One Essence (Ousia): The divine essence is what makes God who He is-uncreated, infinite, eternal, and all-powerful. This essence is undivided and fully shared by all three Persons of the Trinity. Three Persons (Hypostases): Each Person of the Trinity is distinct but fully possesses the one divine essence. The Father is unbegotten, the Son is begotten of the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. These distinctions are relational, not differences in power, will, or essence. Example: The early Church Fathers used analogies like the sun: its light, heat, and the sun itself are distinct but inseparable aspects of the same reality. 2. Jesus Christ: Two Natures, One Person (Hypostatic Union) Core Teaching: Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man, possessing two natures-divine and human-united in one Person (hypostasis). Key Points: Two Natures (Physis): Divine Nature: Eternal, all-powerful, uncreated, sharing the divine essence with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Human Nature: Born of the Virgin Mary, fully human, subject to hunger, fatigue, and suffering. One Person (Hypostasis): The divine Person of the Son took on human nature without mixing or changing either nature. The two natures remain distinct but united in the one Person of Jesus Christ. Key Clarifications: No Confusion or Mixture: The divine and human natures are not blended into something new. No Division or Separation: The two natures are united, not acting independently or divided. Example: The Church Fathers often compared this to iron in fire: the iron (human nature) and the fire (divine nature) remain distinct, but the iron becomes red-hot, sharing in the fire’s properties without losing its own.
The guy was arguing a point out of the book of Revelation(s) not Revelation. I am not very versed and realize I constantly have to seek the truth, but I even know the proper title of the book.
This guy is dense...through him all things were created....it doesn't mean he created himself nor was created. Hence he is NOT a creature, as a created being.
In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. Making radiance glory and the Almighty’s being into an entity much higher than all angels, sustaining everything through his powerful word is mind blowing. The name Jesus the title my son was given to him as an inheritance. AFTER he provided purification for sin his Glory on earth and in heaven was reinstated. Today I have become your father today you have become my son.”Today” has such significance. It is the righteousness the spiritual credit that is freely given and cashed in upon death. It is free because it did not come from works, nothing we did can ever earn this. Like our debt of death from Adam life has a credit from Jesus
Because we have free will. If you were a robot that worshiped God theirs, no point, you're no different than a rock. To have the choice to not worship God when you choose to worship God it makes it infinitely better.
Sam is a master manipulator. Im pretty sure he knows it. So he also knows his reward. But to you that listen even “worship” him. How deceived you will be
So you have three Christian’s from different denominations sitting next to each other! Why they can’t clarify which denomination is true! Is Mary sinless? Are Catholics saved? Versions of the Bible?? But they are political correct that’s why!
lol in the debate. Sam admitted he’s going to hell because he’s Catholic. He then told jay to ask the saints for help!! lol he repents from polytheism to polytheism!! They are not killing each other but they don’t love each other!!
I love how sam cherry picks verses from various Bible translations to suit his cause Isaiah 65:16 in nearly every Bible translation does not say God's name is amen, rather "the God of truth"
trinity is a lie, no such thing in judaism. Helenists inserted it into the bible, all bible scholars agree on the insertion by eusebius. He made someones commantary a part of the bible, how wicked.
The problem with the trinity is that you separate the father from being the source. How can jesus be god and the father be god and holy soirit be god yet they are not ewchother but all equal because they are the same source, logically the source is then greater than the persons...trinitarians do this because they cannot say jesus is the father yet need to say he is god at the same time.
"Will you stop with these stupid arguments, that the Bible has to say it the way you like." Just brilliant ! Unfortunately for sam, he doesn't like the way the bible says it at Rev 3:14 and so must insist on the other possible uses of the word . Why ? Brecause he doesn't like what it says : the beginning of the creation of God. And we know why he doesn't like what it says. Just two verses earlier, the heavenly Jesus in all his glory tells us that he has a God, four times in one verse. From the opening line of Revelation, it is evident that Jesus is differentiated fron God. This differentiation continues throughout the first chapter and the rest of the book.
@@ljnouata9088 in the context of revelation and John 1:1-3 it's 100% means that Jesus is the one who creates. look on revelation 5:8-13 where Jesus the Lamb is being worshipped by *all* creatures every single creature ever is worshipping both Jesus and the Father as God. you can't run from it it's very clear. + he calls himself the Alpha and the Omega in revelation 1:7-8 17,18 and revelation 22:13 which in the Old testament Yahweh God says about himself. Isaiah 41:4 44:6-7 48:12. Jesus is indeed Yahweh but distinct from the Father Yahweh and the Holy Spirit who is also Yahweh God.
@@nogga4691 since you didn’t answer the question. I will for you. • 1y ago • ἀρχή strongs G746 beginning, origin the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause the extremity of a thing of the corners of a sail the first place, principality, rule, magistracy of angels and demons
@@ljnouata9088 The Word of God can either be in category A) Non-created, or category B) Created. According to (John 1:3) ''All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.''. So I ask you, according to this verse: is there a creation (everything in category B) that has EVER existed which was created that was not made by Him (the Word of God)? In light of that (and taking into consideration the second law of logic: The Law of excluded Middle), to which category does the Word of God belong: A or B?
How many times did Sam quote a verse BEFORE the heretic brings it up?
A whole bunch of
He is great hey! God has blessed him for sure
And yet they accuse us of twisting scripture. Like, how dare we count to 3
The root of willful ignorance is pride. These callers are proud.
GOD is one essence and three persons.JESUS CHRIST is uncreated,he is GOD with the FATHER and the HOLY SPIRIT!!!
That doesn't make sense
God keeps blessing you Sam .
Sam cooked him. Holy Spirit annihilated another heresy.
The name of God Yahweh literally means behold the hand behold the nail
Amen Yod He Vav He
one divine nature, three hypostases. ✝️
lol how? According to you Jesus has two natures!!!! Can’t be in one in nature
@@myasesaleh4631 Buddy. Jesus has a divine and a human nature. Dyophysites and Miaphysites agree Jesus had a divine and human nature. Jesus eternally has the divine nature from the sole cause, The Father. He receives human nature when he becomes incarnate from the Virgin Mary. You don't understand metaphysics so don't step into metaphysical arguments. If he is begotten of the Father he has divine nature, once hes physically begotten by the Virgin Mary he has human nature. The Trinity is one in divine shared essence. Pay attention genius.
@@myasesaleh4631 1. The Trinity: One Essence, Three Persons (Hypostases)
Core Teaching:
Orthodox Christianity teaches that God is one in essence (Greek: ousia) but exists in three distinct Persons (hypostases): the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit.
Key Points:
One Essence (Ousia):
The divine essence is what makes God who He is-uncreated, infinite, eternal, and all-powerful. This essence is undivided and fully shared by all three Persons of the Trinity.
Three Persons (Hypostases):
Each Person of the Trinity is distinct but fully possesses the one divine essence. The Father is unbegotten, the Son is begotten of the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. These distinctions are relational, not differences in power, will, or essence.
Example:
The early Church Fathers used analogies like the sun: its light, heat, and the sun itself are distinct but inseparable aspects of the same reality.
2. Jesus Christ: Two Natures, One Person (Hypostatic Union)
Core Teaching:
Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man, possessing two natures-divine and human-united in one Person (hypostasis).
Key Points:
Two Natures (Physis):
Divine Nature: Eternal, all-powerful, uncreated, sharing the divine essence with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Human Nature: Born of the Virgin Mary, fully human, subject to hunger, fatigue, and suffering.
One Person (Hypostasis):
The divine Person of the Son took on human nature without mixing or changing either nature. The two natures remain distinct but united in the one Person of Jesus Christ.
Key Clarifications:
No Confusion or Mixture: The divine and human natures are not blended into something new.
No Division or Separation: The two natures are united, not acting independently or divided.
Example:
The Church Fathers often compared this to iron in fire: the iron (human nature) and the fire (divine nature) remain distinct, but the iron becomes red-hot, sharing in the fire’s properties without losing its own.
The guy was arguing a point out of the book of Revelation(s) not Revelation. I am not very versed and realize I constantly have to seek the truth, but I even know the proper title of the book.
Jeremy, when Sam says the Greek word, it's not RK, it's archē (αρχή).
Thanks! I use AI to make the captions for me, and have not corrected its mistakes.
Jesus is the “beginning of God’s creation”. Why don’t you guys believe it
@@ljnouata9088 Son wasnt created He was with Father before creation even before He created angels same with Holy Spirit
@@utherlightbringer3868Rev 3:14 Jesus is “the beginning of God’s creation”
@@ljnouata9088 cause it was created through Him not that He is creation
Then how *are* we to interpret the title "Everlasting Father"?
This guy is dense...through him all things were created....it doesn't mean he created himself nor was created. Hence he is NOT a creature, as a created being.
So all doesn’t always mean all. Got it
This is what you get when people reject the church tradition and try to interpret the bible by themselves....
In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. Making radiance glory and the Almighty’s being into an entity much higher than all angels, sustaining everything through his powerful word is mind blowing. The name Jesus the title my son was given to him as an inheritance. AFTER he provided purification for sin his Glory on earth and in heaven was reinstated. Today I have become your father today you have become my son.”Today” has such significance. It is the righteousness the spiritual credit that is freely given and cashed in upon death. It is free because it did not come from works, nothing we did can ever earn this. Like our debt of death from Adam life has a credit from Jesus
What if God knows everything? Did he also know that Lucifer would betray him? Adam and Eve would also fall, why did he let it happen?
Because we have free will. If you were a robot that worshiped God theirs, no point, you're no different than a rock. To have the choice to not worship God when you choose to worship God it makes it infinitely better.
Sam is a master manipulator. Im pretty sure he knows it. So he also knows his reward. But to you that listen even “worship” him. How deceived you will be
So you have three Christian’s from different denominations sitting next to each other! Why they can’t clarify which denomination is true! Is Mary sinless? Are Catholics saved? Versions of the Bible?? But they are political correct that’s why!
Are they killing each other though?
lol in the debate. Sam admitted he’s going to hell because he’s Catholic. He then told jay to ask the saints for help!! lol he repents from polytheism to polytheism!! They are not killing each other but they don’t love each other!!
Christians have killed other enough! They were almost extinct
@@myasesaleh4631polytheism? What shit are you talking about lol
@@myasesaleh4631Jay and Sam are closer to the truth than Protestants 😂
Sam says uncreated God say created Satan says will not die God say will die who will you believe Satan and Sam or God
MMMaaahaaa🤣
Wonderful…thats what christians do if you face people like that you call your elders to destroy fake narratives😂😂😂😂
Mistake on 27 year it 30.
I love how sam cherry picks verses from various Bible translations to suit his cause Isaiah 65:16 in nearly every Bible translation does not say God's name is amen, rather "the God of truth"
trinity is a lie, no such thing in judaism. Helenists inserted it into the bible, all bible scholars agree on the insertion by eusebius. He made someones commantary a part of the bible, how wicked.
The irony is that the "Arian" is closer to being Christian than Sam 😢
Agree. Sam is far from the truth
The problem with the trinity is that you separate the father from being the source. How can jesus be god and the father be god and holy soirit be god yet they are not ewchother but all equal because they are the same source, logically the source is then greater than the persons...trinitarians do this because they cannot say jesus is the father yet need to say he is god at the same time.
Exactly 💯
"Will you stop with these stupid arguments, that the Bible has to say it the way you like." Just brilliant ! Unfortunately for sam, he doesn't like the way the bible says it at Rev 3:14 and so must insist on the other possible uses of the word . Why ? Brecause he doesn't like what it says : the beginning of the creation of God. And we know why he doesn't like what it says. Just two verses earlier, the heavenly Jesus in all his glory tells us that he has a God, four times in one verse.
From the opening line of Revelation, it is evident that Jesus is differentiated fron God. This differentiation continues throughout the first chapter and the rest of the book.
So Sam believes Rev 3:14 is saying “God, the beginning of Gods Creation” 😂😂😂
bo the Greek arche can mean creator or the one who begins the creation. so Jesus is that creator God not created.
@ *can* thankyou. You’re thinking objectively. I like it. Come on keep going, what else *can* it also mean bro?
@@ljnouata9088 in the context of revelation and John 1:1-3 it's 100% means that Jesus is the one who creates. look on revelation 5:8-13 where Jesus the Lamb is being worshipped by *all* creatures every single creature ever is worshipping both Jesus and the Father as God. you can't run from it it's very clear. + he calls himself the Alpha and the Omega in revelation 1:7-8 17,18 and revelation 22:13 which in the Old testament Yahweh God says about himself. Isaiah 41:4 44:6-7 48:12. Jesus is indeed Yahweh but distinct from the Father Yahweh and the Holy Spirit who is also Yahweh God.
@@nogga4691 since you didn’t answer the question. I will for you.
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ἀρχή
strongs G746
beginning, origin
the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader
that by which anything begins to be, the origin, the active cause
the extremity of a thing
of the corners of a sail
the first place, principality, rule, magistracy
of angels and demons
@@ljnouata9088 The Word of God can either be in category A) Non-created, or category B) Created. According to (John 1:3) ''All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.''. So I ask you, according to this verse: is there a creation (everything in category B) that has EVER existed which was created that was not made by Him (the Word of God)? In light of that (and taking into consideration the second law of logic: The Law of excluded Middle), to which category does the Word of God belong: A or B?
one divine nature, three hypostases. ✝️
Ok so the nature is greater than the persons??