Hi there, I love your series and I can't get enough of it. I have re-fitted a lot of external stuff to my boat in the last year including 8 new port lights. I sense that you are not using enough goop...In my experience you may get some leakage when it rains heavily which will drive you nuts. My philosophy is - Pile on the goop. You can't use too much as you can always clean it up after, even if it means half a days work with a scalpel!
Place your flush mount speakers in the ceiling with the headliner. The same as your doing with the LED lights. The sound will pipe down and drown out the noise of your engine and or generator. Another suggestion for fuel transfer.. Is get a 9 volt battery, go to an electrical supply store and get a 9volt batter connector. Wire it in with a replacement auto electric fuel pump. No pumping required.. get's almost full and disconnect the batter. I used them all the time in the past for emptying auto fuel tanks before working on them. They can empty a standard auto fuel tank in about 5 minutes. Works great! Thanks again for the video updates.
Your videos are so well done. Camera angles, lighting, audio, editing, humor, and content. Also, "Cruising The Cut" is also one of my favorites as well! David's a quiet riot.
The difference the new port lights made inside of the boat really shown through in your video. It is amazing how something so simple can bring such new life into a project like this.
I've got an early start tomorrow, so I'm off to bed. I'm hoping I'll wake up to a ton of nice comments ;) NB! The video only just finished processing. It might not be available in HD/4K where you're located. If that is the case, just check back in a few hours :)
First and foremost, the portlights look fantastic, congratulations on the great work. As for your speaker problem, no matter which place you choose from the ones you've listed, you'll either experience bad quality (due to close/facing each other/covered up position), bad resonance (bulkheads will try to act like a speaker themselves) or just ugly wiring behind. What you can do is to construct speaker boxes -with proper angling to focus/direct the sound- and place them at the corners of the forward bulkhead with proper foam insulation between the box and the bulkhead to avoide any resonance. Another option is to go for the self boxed non-marine small speakers (like bose's home theare systems) and mount them the same way. Marine speakers are constructed for outside usage, and you'll not experience that corrosive environment -albeit not being dry as a land based home- to make the marine grade protection necessary. Sail in good health and fair winds!
I don't think you should be getting flush-mount marine speakers for inside your boat at all. Instead, get decent-quality smallish home theater speakers and bracket-mount them. Solves your problem of cutting through bulkheads--you can just have a few bolts through the bulkhead with a nut on the other side. Also allows easy change-out of the speakers if one of them goes bad, and if you buy the right bracket mount you can even adjust the angles on them if needed. They'll probably be higher quality sound for a cheaper price than the marine speakers, at that. Save marine speakers for external, cockpit use. :)
Nicely done Mads in getting the port lights completed in the saloon, they sure have lifted the appearance. I am enjoying a range of other sailing TH-cam channels asides the ones you mentioned including: have wind will sail, follow the boat, la vagabonde, sailing Uma, Shaun and Julia on sailing SV I am easy etc.
Mads that made me smile big time. The portlights turned out spectacular and your plan for interior lights will look amazing as well. Once again super job!
Hi Mads, you only need marine grade speakers if you mount them in the cockpit. For the main saloon, any stereo speakers will be a better choice in terms of sound quality. If you like Bose, I would suggest the Acoustimass 3 or 5 system. These are composed of two small satellite speakers and a sub-woofer that you can place virtually anywhere. I've seen them mounted by hi-end boat builders and they look great when mounted near the ceiling with the right bracket. I have the Acoustimass 5 at home and they sound great!
For the speakers we used the Bose 301's (if I recall the model correctly). They mounded on a small pedestal that I bolted to the underside of the ceiling(overhead). They had great full sound and all I had to do was run the wire to them but not drill a large 5" hole in a bulkhead. They sound great and don't require separate power. It did take some time to find the smallest speakers that did NOT require a separate bass unit which I didn't want as you can imagine. Love the videos!,,
Hi Madds. Congratulations on getting all your new port lights installed. Your new boat is looking great. Sorry I don't really have any advice on speaker placement but I do have one caution to offer. Just be aware of the fact that the mounting surface can also act as a speaker. You can get some pretty annoying vibrations that detract from the music etc. I suppose you can do something to dampen or deaden the mounting surfaces but you might want to give that some thought in deciding where to put them.
Arrgh! We have no suggestions at all for mounting of speakers! Does that make us a rarity on the Internet? Loved the video, Mads - the relief at getting that job done, the quality of production, yada yada yada. That super cool inter title "2 Hours Later". Plus I haven't done any counting since Big Bird retired from Sesame street so the earlier part counting the LEDS was a good refresher :)
I agree with the suggestion to add in LED Light Strips. Not just for mood lighting, but placed to light up the work counter. Surface mount them and add a small trim strip to hide the edges. The multiple lights on a strip would eliminate your shadows.
You could put the speaker in a box which is then flush mounted. No need to saw big holes. You could also move them around until you get the sound balance you like. The real trick is hiding the wires. Good progress!
Great video ,,A little tip try cutting the end of your mastic tube in an inverted V shape for fitting your port lights as it wil go on neater, the shape you use is great for around a sink or bath but messy when trying to do a job like that,good luck Mick
I actually found you while watching the TH-cam channel "cruising the cut". the reflex stove install on oblix (not sure I am spelling that right) was the reason, I am now a subscriber.
I follow a guy who lives full time in his RV. He mounted his interior traditional box speakers to swing arms, which could then be pivoted to point the speakers toward the outside. This might be a fun option for you.
Mads, it's difficult to make suggestions because we don't know how important the clarity of sound coming from those speakers is to you. My preference would be non-Bose, not just because they don't publish frequency response, but also because I totally lost audible for parts of an alto-sax track once due to Bose' ill-conceived crossovers. However, I'm sure other folks swear by them. I too have the UE Megaboom, and if you can see your way to doing bluetooth, this would be the piece of kit I'd recommend. And, with all the trouble mounting, drilling, and wiring the ones you described, I'd try bluetooth technology for a while first - it's very decent quality, it's highly portable, you can create stereo sound very easily by hooking up two speakers, and they're waterproof. Some others have suggested mounting those Bose speakers down below somewhere (ie. not on the bulkhead). This isn't recommended sonically, as higher frequencies are best heard in a straight line from speaker to ear. This is why for 5.1 stereo systems the mid-range and tweeters are pointed directly at the listener, while the sub-hoofer can be anywhere in the room, even behind a chair. Some other questions...it would be uber cool to be able to pipe ship-to-shore, VHF, shortwave, etc. thru to the speakers too. Have you given any thought as to how that can be accomplished? As for the LED pot-lights, I'd recommend multiple zones (at least a separate one for the galley, which may benefit from increased light while keeping the rest of the boat lighting subdued). You may be better served (for the galley) installing an LED strip near the work surface.
My suggestion for your lighting is to have two dimmer switches. One for the overheads and one for the indirect lights. I've done this before and it can be used to great effect. As far as your speakers go... You're a pretty handy guy Mads.... Make some little speaker boxes that fit in the corners... ;)
Nice vid as usual Madz.👍Unless you have already bought those Marine Speakers (which are intended for cockpits btw). I would mount ordinary speakers at floor level ( you did not pan around much at floor level so I cannot say exactly where) so settee carcass and somewhere in the galley side. On the lighting front, I really do not think dimmers are the way to go and having a three or four switched circuits would be more effective with a fifth for red lighting.😀 the cheap LED strings under shelves and cabinets are good infill lighting or even 'mood' lighting - if you are in the mood.😳 Great job with the portlights just in time for winter.👍
I would consider two approaches. First think about small cubes with a bass sub. You will likely be listening to music at a lower volume inyour boat while you are in it. I have found trying to listen to your cabin speakers while in the cockpit overdriven them and forces a bit of yelling when people go down below and need to communicate to those in the cockpit. Also think about a portable, wireless Bluetooth speaker, or two. Solves mounting and wiring issues and can be brought outside. Look forward to your next videos...thanks for lvl the hard work.
Thats quite a few lights. Good thing they all LEDs and not going to put a heavy draw on your electrical system. The interior is starting to turn out good. All the best!
Great job on the port lights! bending glass is a new one to me. As for the speakers you could build a small box to flush mount the speakers into and then mount the box on the thin walls. it might not be the prettiest option but it's an option. You could also flush mount them on the wall, and then build a thinner box on the backside in the head or stateroom. This would have a smaller overall profile because a bit of the speaker would be within the thickness of the wall but then there would be unexplained boxes in the head/stateroom. The only other option I could think of would be to mount them below the bench seat, or under the table or on some lower surface or wall. You could use banana plugs if you need to remove the bench or whatever lower surface you would mount them on.
We missed you last weekend but the new varnish, paint and portlights are beautiful and worth the wait. Why not use flush mount speakers, even if temporarily, before cutting holes in the bulkheads only to find that you weren't happy with their placement. Maybe even movable speakers? Bluetooth?. Wife still says you're adorable.
Regarding the speakers, mount them in the upper corner of the bulkheads. Don't worry about flush mounting them. Get a speaker surround so you don't have to cut any walls, but mount them on the wall. As technology changes or fails you may not be able to get these speakers in the future so you would be left with holes in the wall. You don't want that. The Lights. Have you considered instead of downward facing lights, to have lights at the ridge below the port lights facing upwards, lighting the ceiling. This would provide a more diffused light in the areas with reduced shadows. This would work in conjunction with the lights under the ridge shining straight down on the counter. That's similar to aircraft lighting. I've seen led strip lighting being placed under the ridge to brighten up the counter top area. That would work really good to eliminate shadows in your application! RE sealing the port lights, did you put sealant on the screws themselves? All I saw was sealant around the screws, but nothing sealing water going straight down the screw into the boat. Cheers!
It was in the 'Channels I watch' on his channels main page. After watching all his vlogs I was in need of more to watch and clicked on your page and the rest is history. You have Inspired me to take sailing lessons this summer at a local yacht club here in Australia.
Outboard motor hose and bulb, easy to use and cheap. Speaker can go on the head bulkhead, it's not going to be in the way and can always cover the inside with a matching box on inside head bulkhead. won't take up much room Yup , cruising the cut is a good channel, imagine a boat 7.5 foot wide and over 40 feet long. Good thing they don't get any wave action in those little cannels
That Butyl 200 sealant looks excellent. I need to remove and re-seal my aluminium framed portlights - I think white butyl in a tube is exactly what I am looking for. Oh, and I totally agree with your recommendation on Cruising The Cut.
Brilliant video as usual! 25 LEDs will be great just think about where and how many switches you include. Being able to zone off sections is useful and being able to turn lights on and off from different locations has huge benefits.
Another great video Mads. I would suggest a Bose Wave radio. A stand alone unit with awesome sound and you can place it any where, no holes, no wiring issues, just a thought.
picking up the idea of light strips: I have installed red lightstrips, so that when you're sailing in the dark you got a decent and comfortable light without ruining your sight at night. Recommend that.
Hi Mads. I'm in the process of refurbishing a 1983 Catalina 30, so I too have been considering where to place speakers. I already have 4 hard wired in the main cabin. They set on shelves on the port and starboard. I have been considering using Bluetooth speakers in the cockpit. That way one could move them around and remove them from the cockpit when one was leaving the boat or not in the cockpit.
Speakers. Possible suggestion. The Bose marine speakers as better used perhaps outside as this is the intended environment. Consider the bose small cube speakers and a bose sub for the saloon. Many yachts has this configuration now and so should be ok for the inside environment. The cube speaker would be a breeze to mount and the sub could go low down, maybe inside a seat box. The cubes are not full audio range so you would need to make sure your happy with the overall sound field but as we know the cube and a sub work pretty well.
Hi Mads, A new fan from South Africa ..... Thanks for the effort and quality videos that you share each week. I realise this video was published 3 years ago, but have you finalised the lighting. I would have suggested that you consider concealed strip lighting to add ambiance (nudge nudge wink wink) but you probably have advanced your ceiling design ....
Hey! I don't really see the reason for the marine speakers inside the boat itself.. A good example of what I would suggest is Bose Acoustimass system, since they have tiny side speakers, which you could mount wherever you want, even 4, for each corner of the main saloon. The only downside I can see is the rather large subwoofer box you'd have to hide somewhere (yet still open enough to sound good). But the system does sound amazing!
Just a silly idea that popped into my mind- you should totally wire the leds to an arduino or r-pi controlled dimmer! Connect the arduino/etc to your bluetooth and have a sunrise alarm in the whole boat! :D
Love your vids! Jumping on the speaker comment train; mountable/mobile speakers are wonderful! Easy to move up top when sailing, and so simple to replace when technology updates, no mess other than wiring. :) (I'm about to switch to Bluetooth, the charging time/no wires/mobility is worth it for me.) :)
I'm kind of late to this. I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I'm just catching up. Audio is a subject I know quite a bit about. 1) 'Marine' speakers, just like anything else labelled Marine means it cost twice as much. Sometimes on a boat you actually need marine. Other times not so much. Marine speakers, true ones that is, are meant to be out in the elements, like in the cockpit being exposed to all the harsh conditions. Inside the boat Automotive will do just fine. The inside of a large cruising yacht is probably less harsh that that inside an automobile. So you can spend the same amount and get better speakers. Same can be said for 'Bose'. They have superior marketing to charge a higher price but with actual quality they are middle of the road at best. Many have commented about small box speakers so you don't have to drill big holes or even bluetooth. Good ideas. Speaker placement is very tricky and a lot of experimenting is required. Something that may sound great in one room or boat can sound awful in your boat. You have a lot of options and your finished cabin will be the determining factor. Without the cushions etc. it will sound different ounce you have them all in. I would say getting some bluetooth speakers and moving them around to see what is best and then mounting is the way to go. A subwoofer, as a few have suggested it also a good one. Lower frequency speakers placement is less directional so placement isn't as critical. On my boat I made a box out of the lower half of a small locker with a louvered door. That space was sort of useless anyway but made a great sub cabinet. I got some fairly good auto speakers and made my own boxes to mount them in. and just 2 screws hold them in place. My head unit is after market auto with a remote control. I also have, from the PO, marine speakers in the cockpit that I can turn off/on. Experiment is the key. The hive mind can't tell you what will sound best to you.
Mads, if you have IKEA around the corner, check their LED lights, they have very slim ones with 12V DC... And they are also affordable (at least in Germany). Thumbs up... Another great improvement might be LED panels, available in various sizes, very slim, just need to search for 12V... And some even dimmable, they proviede great light!
I like the ones Alfy has in his boat, they are House Of Marley blue tooth speakers. Thats the route I will be going as my boat is too small to house a conventional type speaker. BTW awesome looking portlights, job well done.
Have you considered a bluetooth portable speaker like the one I have Mads? I am super happy with it! No holes to drill and the speaker comes outside to the cockpit on nice sunny days. :) And thanks for the shout out! :)
A speaker tip; I installed two visaton ex60S contact/exciter speakers on the bulkheads on my amigo 23, These turn the whole bulkheads in to big speakers.. Makes for a big sound!
Think about adding a plate to the corner by the x'es as fixtures for the speakers.. That will allow you to: 1) angle them as you would like to 2) avoid making holes in the walls with the resulting mess on the backside
If you want high mounts the corner-filler box takes little space and no big hole in the boat. If you like lower speaker sound you might place speakers in the lockers under the seats...it works in cars, trucks and SUV's.
Can't wait for some footage from the boat show. Regarding the port lights; is there a torque amount that needs to be used or some sort of thread lock? I would be nervous about the screws working themselves out. I've never done it so it's not advice it's just insecurity. :) :) :)
Mads, I'm also of the opinion that you should consider a bracket-mounted speaker with its own enclosure for the speaker drivers. It does not give you the luxury of a flush mount, but some small home theater speakers will give you the advantage of being able to aim the speaker and have only a few screw holes for the bracket and one drill hole for the wire. I really don't think you have to worry about marine rated speakers for units that are mounted inside the forward cabin on the forward bulkhead. The impedance may be an issue, as most home theater speakers are 8 ohm, and car/boat speakers are 4 ohm. Could you share some specific information about your LED lights, portlights, and refrigeration compressor on manufacturer, model, and cost? I recently purchased a 37' round steel chined Zeeland yawl built in 1953 in Holland. A tremendous amount of hull restoration work was done to it by the previous owner, but the interior still needs a fair amount of fit-out, and I want to update the interior to have a fridge, range stove, LED lights, new portlights (some opening), and lastly-- a cabin heat source for the cold months and northern latitudes. The Refleks looks like a great unit, and I haven't researched any US based suppliers. Interior volume of my cabin is probably a bit less than your Warrior 38 as I have a 10 foot beam. Which model did you decide for Athena? Thanks for the advice, and nice work on your new home. Eoin
Hi Mads , why don't you get outdoor rated speakers and mount them on brackets ? That would solve the recessing issue , and if any water comes in from a huge wave they are still somewhat water proof ! If it were up to me I would hang them on the sides of a nice TV /monitor/plotter repeater ; that way you can watch a nice movie , see a camera view of your deck , or a plotter screen of your navigation ! wink wink ! No reason not to have some nice mod coms ? by the way can't wait to see the boat show video !
Just take some hifi speakers to play with the placement until you're satisfied. I'd go for custom enclosures with mid+high chassis on ear level, doing "front staging". Or Hifi Speakers, JBL-One for example are excellent value. No big holes in the bulkheads. In addition hide a large ass bass somewhere, also with a proper enclosure. Class D Amps (for saving Power) and an active crossover. Later add something like freedsp.cc. But first finish the refit :-)
a 2+1 satellite sub system may work better for install.. tiny mid range surface mount cubes in the two corners and a sub hidden in a cabinet or something hidden away.. the sub can go anywhere, probably better sound too with a subwoffer... I did this in my kitchen in my home , stuck the sub in a oddly sized cabinet we didn't really use and put the surface mount speakers in the corners of the room mounted to the ceiling. Huge sound , deep bass, and your really don't see it due to the small cube mid range speakers being the only thing you can see.. no cutting huge holes in walls or ceilings etc.. just running wires. If you a Bose fan, Bose kind of pioneered these sub satellite speaker systems. But now they are very common and available in many brands.
Love your videos as usual,thank you for sharing your journey. You may have already answered this question but may I inquire the manufacturer of both your paraffin heater and your cabinet style heater you refilled in this video. I am throughly enjoying your efforts.
Have you considered non-marine / non-flush mounted speakers? Bose also have a lot of these ones. Indoor waterproof speakers also feels like an overkill feature, given your excellent work with the portlights. Do you have a link or name for your new fuel pump? That would make a great gift for a sailing friend of mine. And, as usual, 2 thumbs up for your video!
Very nicely done :) I am having the same first world problem with my yacht.. I really want a music system but I can't quite bring my self to cut holes in things. Then there is the angle of the speakers to get the best sound. Being a yacht I will be spending most of my time outside so it would be nice if the speakers could give a reasonable volume level in the cockpit. Then there is the power draw, a regular car type setup can flatten batteries in a few hours. In the end it was all too much for me and I chickened out and went for a Bayan soundbook go. Usb charger and I can angle it where needed.. Seeing as you seem to be a bit more hands on than I, could you maybe mount them in the ceiling like the lights?
Hi Mads .. my first instinct would be to screw from the inside just from a point of view of security so they can't be unscrewed from outside or is this just a land lubbers mind set ?! Superb videos by the way ..very addicted... love how you systematically tackle problems .. I'm converted
Make small boxes for the speakers and mount them to the forward or aft bulkhead. The boxes will allow you to mount them without cutting holes in the walls.
Did you put any sealant on the screw heads or threads? If not, you might get water leaking in between the outer frame and screw heads, that follows the screw threads and then leaks on the inside of the cabin from under the backing plates. Might want to look and see if those port light screws need any kind of sealant / bedding compound. Might want to consider putting some blue loctite or a marine equivalent on the tips of the screws so they don't loosen and create leaks later.
WAIT A MINUTE ! Did you just open something up with out your knife ? I get it , your not feeling well..love the lights and the ambience, plus your courage in asking the comments dept. For input ,! Namaste
hey Matt u should check out the possibility of outdoor speakers i have been working on a power charter boat that carries them inside and out they have some bose and some insignia they preform very nice and come with a mount the insignia are affordable you can find them on amazon for 130$ usd a pair
Get bracket mounted speakers so you don't have the problem of the back portion of the speaker in another room...such as the heads. Also, when they fail you don't have the problem of getting speakers with the exact same dimensions. If you ever decide to move or remove them, it would be much easier as well.
I would mount them in the aft part, up in the corners. Make a tiriangular piece of wood that the speaker fits on and mount it in the corner so that the bottom of the deck and 2 walls are holding it in place.
Look in to flat speakers. They are based on the military tech, but finally popping out as commercial variants. Amazon has some stuff, but don't confuse it with low profile speakers. They are panel like and usually very flat.
Oh and it's not just the glass system that bends to the shape, there's some give in the cabin top as well. I actually considered mentioning this in the previous issue video, but didn't want to advise you wrongly. It's always best to ask the manufacturer.
Hi Mads, Great progress on Athena! Seeing Oblex surrounded by ice got me wondering about winterizing about Oblex. Since I dont live aboard my boat, there comes a time every year when need to pack it up for the season, and that means winterizing my engine. Is that something you do on Oblex, or can you skip it since you keep things well above freezing onboard?
Thanks :) I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) The plan is to move aboard next summer. She won't be done by then, but the rest I'll take care of while living aboard :)
I agree with Ben or you can get 4 and mount them in the ceiling/liner along with the lights. I am surprised you did not put sealant on the inside of the port lights??
As you are a handy guy, why don't you make 2 boxes in the corner of each side, following the line of the wall and place your speakers in there? 2 advantages: they don't require extra space, they only use "lost corner" space and if you put some noise absorbing insulation between the speakers and the wall behind, you won't hear the bass beats in the head as much. Keep up the working and the thinking ;)
Sorry if you've answered this question many times before (I have watched all 195 but can't remember if you've mentioned this on screen), but what video camera(s) are you using, e.g. for your interior work. I know a lot of your mobile footage is gopro, but the video quality inside and stationary shots around the boat are so good it makes me wonder if you use something else there as well. Thanks, great work!
Hi have you considered installing any red light around galley and chart area for night sailing? We used a combined white or red light to solve our space and light needs. On a recent 1000nm voyage it worked a treat and allowed us to keep our night vision. Andy "SV Guenevere".
and why you will drill holes for the speakers? why don't you do small nice boxes to match with the decor and put them in your first location option? I beleave that is the best way to put the speakers at least this is how I am thinking to do for my boat! :)
Also if you go with the Bose (No highs, No lows, Must be Bose) putting them in a box will give a little better bass response. Just my opinion don't burn me guys!!
it depends on where to put the boxes... there are already in the boat plenty of stuff that can whack one's head during a storm... if Mads put them where he pointed his first option I don't believe that will make to much damage.
Great Video ! Maybe a LED light by the entrance steps to make sure you do not miss the steps (or night light). Never heard these port holes called portlights til I was on TH-cam... Thank you for the video ! tjl
Hi there, I love your series and I can't get enough of it. I have re-fitted a lot of external stuff to my boat in the last year including 8 new port lights. I sense that you are not using enough goop...In my experience you may get some leakage when it rains heavily which will drive you nuts. My philosophy is - Pile on the goop. You can't use too much as you can always clean it up after, even if it means half a days work with a scalpel!
Add some lighting in the lower parts of the cabin to illuminate steps and passages. Don't forget some strategic red ones for your nighttime passages.
spot on :)
Place your flush mount speakers in the ceiling with the headliner. The same as your doing with the LED lights. The sound will pipe down and drown out the noise of your engine and or generator. Another suggestion for fuel transfer.. Is get a 9 volt battery, go to an electrical supply store and get a 9volt batter connector. Wire it in with a replacement auto electric fuel pump. No pumping required.. get's almost full and disconnect the batter. I used them all the time in the past for emptying auto fuel tanks before working on them. They can empty a standard auto fuel tank in about 5 minutes. Works great! Thanks again for the video updates.
Your videos are so well done. Camera angles, lighting, audio, editing, humor, and content. Also, "Cruising The Cut" is also one of my favorites as well! David's a quiet riot.
Max Marbles I have never been called that before but I like it :-)
The difference the new port lights made inside of the boat really shown through in your video. It is amazing how something so simple can bring such new life into a project like this.
I've got an early start tomorrow, so I'm off to bed. I'm hoping I'll wake up to a ton of nice comments ;)
NB! The video only just finished processing. It might not be available in HD/4K where you're located. If that is the case, just check back in a few hours :)
First and foremost, the portlights look fantastic, congratulations on the great work. As for your speaker problem, no matter which place you choose from the ones you've listed, you'll either experience bad quality (due to close/facing each other/covered up position), bad resonance (bulkheads will try to act like a speaker themselves) or just ugly wiring behind.
What you can do is to construct speaker boxes -with proper angling to focus/direct the sound- and place them at the corners of the forward bulkhead with proper foam insulation between the box and the bulkhead to avoide any resonance.
Another option is to go for the self boxed non-marine small speakers (like bose's home theare systems) and mount them the same way. Marine speakers are constructed for outside usage, and you'll not experience that corrosive environment -albeit not being dry as a land based home- to make the marine grade protection necessary.
Sail in good health and fair winds!
I don't think you should be getting flush-mount marine speakers for inside your boat at all. Instead, get decent-quality smallish home theater speakers and bracket-mount them. Solves your problem of cutting through bulkheads--you can just have a few bolts through the bulkhead with a nut on the other side.
Also allows easy change-out of the speakers if one of them goes bad, and if you buy the right bracket mount you can even adjust the angles on them if needed.
They'll probably be higher quality sound for a cheaper price than the marine speakers, at that.
Save marine speakers for external, cockpit use. :)
I second this idea!!!
Dan Cordell agreed. Surface mount little box Bose speakers in white would look amazing. Great video once again.
I agree with this idea. I have personally considered a bluetooth speaker, but that's just one more thing to charge.
Nicely done Mads in getting the port lights completed in the saloon, they sure have lifted the appearance. I am enjoying a range of other sailing TH-cam channels asides the ones you mentioned including: have wind will sail, follow the boat, la vagabonde, sailing Uma, Shaun and Julia on sailing SV I am easy etc.
Mads that made me smile big time. The portlights turned out spectacular and your plan for interior lights will look amazing as well. Once again super job!
Also I have watched some of Cruising the Cut. Also excellent!
Thank you :-)
Hi Mads, you only need marine grade speakers if you mount them in the cockpit. For the main saloon, any stereo speakers will be a better choice in terms of sound quality. If you like Bose, I would suggest the Acoustimass 3 or 5 system. These are composed of two small satellite speakers and a sub-woofer that you can place virtually anywhere. I've seen them mounted by hi-end boat builders and they look great when mounted near the ceiling with the right bracket. I have the Acoustimass 5 at home and they sound great!
You need to upload more!!! I love these videos. Once a week is just not enough.
For the speakers we used the Bose 301's (if I recall the model correctly). They mounded on a small pedestal that I bolted to the underside of the ceiling(overhead). They had great full sound and all I had to do was run the wire to them but not drill a large 5" hole in a bulkhead. They sound great and don't require separate power. It did take some time to find the smallest speakers that did NOT require a separate bass unit which I didn't want as you can imagine. Love the videos!,,
Hi Madds. Congratulations on getting all your new port lights installed. Your new boat is looking great. Sorry I don't really have any advice on speaker placement but I do have one caution to offer. Just be aware of the fact that the mounting surface can also act as a speaker. You can get some pretty annoying vibrations that detract from the music etc. I suppose you can do something to dampen or deaden the mounting surfaces but you might want to give that some thought in deciding where to put them.
Arrgh! We have no suggestions at all for mounting of speakers! Does that make us a rarity on the Internet? Loved the video, Mads - the relief at getting that job done, the quality of production, yada yada yada. That super cool inter title "2 Hours Later". Plus I haven't done any counting since Big Bird retired from Sesame street so the earlier part counting the LEDS was a good refresher :)
I agree with the suggestion to add in LED Light Strips. Not just for mood lighting, but placed to light up the work counter. Surface mount them and add a small trim strip to hide the edges. The multiple lights on a strip would eliminate your shadows.
You could put the speaker in a box which is then flush mounted. No need to saw big holes. You could also move them around until you get the sound balance you like. The real trick is hiding the wires. Good progress!
If he puts the boxes under the deck where the supports are he can hide the wires with the trim that is already in place. Love the videos, thank you.
+1 I was going to say this also
Sailing Vessel Southern Lady me too, or as mentioned in the above comments small boxes
Great video ,,A little tip try cutting the end of your mastic tube in an inverted V shape for fitting your port lights as it wil go on neater, the shape you use is great for around a sink or bath but messy when trying to do a job like that,good luck Mick
I actually found you while watching the TH-cam channel "cruising the cut". the reflex stove install on oblix (not sure I am spelling that right) was the reason, I am now a subscriber.
I follow a guy who lives full time in his RV. He mounted his interior traditional box speakers to swing arms, which could then be pivoted to point the speakers toward the outside. This might be a fun option for you.
Mads, it's difficult to make suggestions because we don't know how important the clarity of sound coming from those speakers is to you. My preference would be non-Bose, not just because they don't publish frequency response, but also because I totally lost audible for parts of an alto-sax track once due to Bose' ill-conceived crossovers. However, I'm sure other folks swear by them.
I too have the UE Megaboom, and if you can see your way to doing bluetooth, this would be the piece of kit I'd recommend. And, with all the trouble mounting, drilling, and wiring the ones you described, I'd try bluetooth technology for a while first - it's very decent quality, it's highly portable, you can create stereo sound very easily by hooking up two speakers, and they're waterproof.
Some others have suggested mounting those Bose speakers down below somewhere (ie. not on the bulkhead). This isn't recommended sonically, as higher frequencies are best heard in a straight line from speaker to ear. This is why for 5.1 stereo systems the mid-range and tweeters are pointed directly at the listener, while the sub-hoofer can be anywhere in the room, even behind a chair.
Some other questions...it would be uber cool to be able to pipe ship-to-shore, VHF, shortwave, etc. thru to the speakers too. Have you given any thought as to how that can be accomplished?
As for the LED pot-lights, I'd recommend multiple zones (at least a separate one for the galley, which may benefit from increased light while keeping the rest of the boat lighting subdued). You may be better served (for the galley) installing an LED strip near the work surface.
My suggestion for your lighting is to have two dimmer switches. One for the overheads and one for the indirect lights. I've done this before and it can be used to great effect.
As far as your speakers go...
You're a pretty handy guy Mads.... Make some little speaker boxes that fit in the corners... ;)
Nice vid as usual Madz.👍Unless you have already bought those Marine Speakers (which are intended for cockpits btw). I would mount ordinary speakers at floor level ( you did not pan around much at floor level so I cannot say exactly where) so settee carcass and somewhere in the galley side. On the lighting front, I really do not think dimmers are the way to go and having a three or four switched circuits would be more effective with a fifth for red lighting.😀 the cheap LED strings under shelves and cabinets are good infill lighting or even 'mood' lighting - if you are in the mood.😳
Great job with the portlights just in time for winter.👍
I would consider two approaches. First think about small cubes with a bass sub. You will likely be listening to music at a lower volume inyour boat while you are in it. I have found trying to listen to your cabin speakers while in the cockpit overdriven them and forces a bit of yelling when people go down below and need to communicate to those in the cockpit. Also think about a portable, wireless Bluetooth speaker, or two. Solves mounting and wiring issues and can be brought outside. Look forward to your next videos...thanks for lvl the hard work.
Thats quite a few lights. Good thing they all LEDs and not going to put a heavy draw on your electrical system. The interior is starting to turn out good. All the best!
Great to see you back. I hope you had a great time at the boat show. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for describing how you do everything so well.
Great job on the port lights! bending glass is a new one to me.
As for the speakers you could build a small box to flush mount the speakers into and then mount the box on the thin walls. it might not be the prettiest option but it's an option.
You could also flush mount them on the wall, and then build a thinner box on the backside in the head or stateroom. This would have a smaller overall profile because a bit of the speaker would be within the thickness of the wall but then there would be unexplained boxes in the head/stateroom.
The only other option I could think of would be to mount them below the bench seat, or under the table or on some lower surface or wall. You could use banana plugs if you need to remove the bench or whatever lower surface you would mount them on.
We missed you last weekend but the new varnish, paint and portlights are beautiful and worth the wait. Why not use flush mount speakers, even if temporarily, before cutting holes in the bulkheads only to find that you weren't happy with their placement. Maybe even movable speakers? Bluetooth?. Wife still says you're adorable.
Beautiful installation job Mads, really does make your interior look newer. Well done!
Regarding the speakers, mount them in the upper corner of the bulkheads. Don't worry about flush mounting them. Get a speaker surround so you don't have to cut any walls, but mount them on the wall. As technology changes or fails you may not be able to get these speakers in the future so you would be left with holes in the wall. You don't want that.
The Lights. Have you considered instead of downward facing lights, to have lights at the ridge below the port lights facing upwards, lighting the ceiling. This would provide a more diffused light in the areas with reduced shadows.
This would work in conjunction with the lights under the ridge shining straight down on the counter. That's similar to aircraft lighting.
I've seen led strip lighting being placed under the ridge to brighten up the counter top area. That would work really good to eliminate shadows in your application!
RE sealing the port lights, did you put sealant on the screws themselves? All I saw was sealant around the screws, but nothing sealing water going straight down the screw into the boat.
Cheers!
Oh Man, you are an ARTIST! Best luck in your recovery boat and congratulations!
Another Great Video Mads, The port lights look great! It was from watching David from Cruising The Cut at I came across your Channel.
Thank you so much! :) That's interesting :) How did you find my channel from David's videos? From a comment I made perhaps? :)
It was in the 'Channels I watch' on his channels main page. After watching all his vlogs I was in need of more to watch and clicked on your page and the rest is history.
You have Inspired me to take sailing lessons this summer at a local yacht club here in Australia.
I often wondered if anyone ever noticed and clicked on the "channels I watch" list!
Outboard motor hose and bulb, easy to use and cheap. Speaker can go on the head bulkhead, it's not going to be in the way and can always cover the inside with a matching box on inside head bulkhead. won't take up much room
Yup , cruising the cut is a good channel, imagine a boat 7.5 foot wide and over 40 feet long. Good thing they don't get any wave action in those little cannels
That Butyl 200 sealant looks excellent. I need to remove and re-seal my aluminium framed portlights - I think white butyl in a tube is exactly what I am looking for. Oh, and I totally agree with your recommendation on Cruising The Cut.
Brilliant video as usual! 25 LEDs will be great just think about where and how many switches you include. Being able to zone off sections is useful and being able to turn lights on and off from different locations has huge benefits.
Another great video Mads. I would suggest a Bose Wave radio. A stand alone unit with awesome sound and you can place it any where, no holes, no wiring issues, just a thought.
picking up the idea of light strips:
I have installed red lightstrips, so that when you're sailing in the dark you got a decent and comfortable light without ruining your sight at night. Recommend that.
Hi Mads. I'm in the process of refurbishing a 1983 Catalina 30, so I too have been considering where to place speakers. I already have 4 hard wired in the main cabin. They set on shelves on the port and starboard. I have been considering using Bluetooth speakers in the cockpit. That way one could move them around and remove them from the cockpit when one was leaving the boat or not in the cockpit.
Speakers. Possible suggestion. The Bose marine speakers as better used perhaps outside as this is the intended environment. Consider the bose small cube speakers and a bose sub for the saloon. Many yachts has this configuration now and so should be ok for the inside environment. The cube speaker would be a breeze to mount and the sub could go low down, maybe inside a seat box.
The cubes are not full audio range so you would need to make sure your happy with the overall sound field but as we know the cube and a sub work pretty well.
Portlights look great. Boat is really coming together.
Hi Mads, A new fan from South Africa ..... Thanks for the effort and quality videos that you share each week.
I realise this video was published 3 years ago, but have you finalised the lighting.
I would have suggested that you consider concealed strip lighting to add ambiance (nudge nudge wink wink) but you probably have advanced your ceiling design ....
Hey! I don't really see the reason for the marine speakers inside the boat itself.. A good example of what I would suggest is Bose Acoustimass system, since they have tiny side speakers, which you could mount wherever you want, even 4, for each corner of the main saloon. The only downside I can see is the rather large subwoofer box you'd have to hide somewhere (yet still open enough to sound good). But the system does sound amazing!
Just a silly idea that popped into my mind- you should totally wire the leds to an arduino or r-pi controlled dimmer! Connect the arduino/etc to your bluetooth and have a sunrise alarm in the whole boat! :D
Love your vids! Jumping on the speaker comment train; mountable/mobile speakers are wonderful! Easy to move up top when sailing, and so simple to replace when technology updates, no mess other than wiring. :) (I'm about to switch to Bluetooth, the charging time/no wires/mobility is worth it for me.) :)
Reed/white lights down below is a real comfort when y are sailing in the dark. Dim or not, thats what I like. :)
I'm kind of late to this. I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I'm just catching up. Audio is a subject I know quite a bit about. 1) 'Marine' speakers, just like anything else labelled Marine means it cost twice as much. Sometimes on a boat you actually need marine. Other times not so much. Marine speakers, true ones that is, are meant to be out in the elements, like in the cockpit being exposed to all the harsh conditions. Inside the boat Automotive will do just fine. The inside of a large cruising yacht is probably less harsh that that inside an automobile. So you can spend the same amount and get better speakers.
Same can be said for 'Bose'. They have superior marketing to charge a higher price but with actual quality they are middle of the road at best.
Many have commented about small box speakers so you don't have to drill big holes or even bluetooth. Good ideas. Speaker placement is very tricky and a lot of experimenting is required. Something that may sound great in one room or boat can sound awful in your boat. You have a lot of options and your finished cabin will be the determining factor. Without the cushions etc. it will sound different ounce you have them all in. I would say getting some bluetooth speakers and moving them around to see what is best and then mounting is the way to go. A subwoofer, as a few have suggested it also a good one. Lower frequency speakers placement is less directional so placement isn't as critical. On my boat I made a box out of the lower half of a small locker with a louvered door. That space was sort of useless anyway but made a great sub cabinet. I got some fairly good auto speakers and made my own boxes to mount them in. and just 2 screws hold them in place. My head unit is after market auto with a remote control. I also have, from the PO, marine speakers in the cockpit that I can turn off/on.
Experiment is the key. The hive mind can't tell you what will sound best to you.
Mads, if you have IKEA around the corner, check their LED lights, they have very slim ones with 12V DC... And they are also affordable (at least in Germany). Thumbs up... Another great improvement might be LED panels, available in various sizes, very slim, just need to search for 12V... And some even dimmable, they proviede great light!
What a superstar you are! Thanks. Oh, and by the way - your hard work looks distinctly spiffy, for sure :-)
Thanks! You are more than welcome! :D Eagerly awaiting your next video :)
I've watched all of the Cruising the Cut videos. Not binge watching Sail Life!
I like the idea of a speaker box as well. No need to cut holes in your bulkhead.
Good job man, Irish fan here! :) Restoring my own sail boat too, and i'm learning a lot from your efforts.. Thanks again :)
Awesome content, and your filming is just getting better!
Great progress! i dont think you can ever have too many dimming lights!
I like the ones Alfy has in his boat, they are House Of Marley blue tooth speakers. Thats the route I will be going as my boat is too small to house a conventional type speaker. BTW awesome looking portlights, job well done.
BlueTooth speakers still need power....
Have you considered a bluetooth portable speaker like the one I have Mads? I am super happy with it! No holes to drill and the speaker comes outside to the cockpit on nice sunny days. :) And thanks for the shout out! :)
Excellent as always. Nothing more one could say.
It's coming together nicely! Great work!
Hi
Bag the flush mounts and put in service mounts. Or box them in at the back
Cheers.
A speaker tip;
I installed two visaton ex60S contact/exciter speakers on the bulkheads on my amigo 23, These turn the whole bulkheads in to big speakers.. Makes for a big sound!
Think about adding a plate to the corner by the x'es as fixtures for the speakers.. That will allow you to:
1) angle them as you would like to
2) avoid making holes in the walls with the resulting mess on the backside
If you want high mounts the corner-filler box takes little space and no big hole in the boat. If you like lower speaker sound you might place speakers in the lockers under the seats...it works in cars, trucks and SUV's.
Can't wait for some footage from the boat show. Regarding the port lights; is there a torque amount that needs to be used or some sort of thread lock? I would be nervous about the screws working themselves out. I've never done it so it's not advice it's just insecurity. :) :) :)
Mads,
I'm also of the opinion that you should consider a bracket-mounted speaker with its own enclosure for the speaker drivers. It does not give you the luxury of a flush mount, but some small home theater speakers will give you the advantage of being able to aim the speaker and have only a few screw holes for the bracket and one drill hole for the wire. I really don't think you have to worry about marine rated speakers for units that are mounted inside the forward cabin on the forward bulkhead. The impedance may be an issue, as most home theater speakers are 8 ohm, and car/boat speakers are 4 ohm.
Could you share some specific information about your LED lights, portlights, and refrigeration compressor on manufacturer, model, and cost? I recently purchased a 37' round steel chined Zeeland yawl built in 1953 in Holland. A tremendous amount of hull restoration work was done to it by the previous owner, but the interior still needs a fair amount of fit-out, and I want to update the interior to have a fridge, range stove, LED lights, new portlights (some opening), and lastly-- a cabin heat source for the cold months and northern latitudes.
The Refleks looks like a great unit, and I haven't researched any US based suppliers. Interior volume of my cabin is probably a bit less than your Warrior 38 as I have a 10 foot beam. Which model did you decide for Athena?
Thanks for the advice, and nice work on your new home.
Eoin
Hi Mads , why don't you get outdoor rated speakers and mount them on brackets ? That would solve the recessing issue , and if any water comes in from a huge wave they are still somewhat water proof ! If it were up to me I would hang them on the sides of a nice TV /monitor/plotter repeater ; that way you can watch a nice movie , see a camera view of your deck , or a plotter screen of your navigation ! wink wink ! No reason not to have some nice mod coms ? by the way can't wait to see the boat show video !
Just take some hifi speakers to play with the placement until you're satisfied. I'd go for custom enclosures with mid+high chassis on ear level, doing "front staging". Or Hifi Speakers, JBL-One for example are excellent value. No big holes in the bulkheads. In addition hide a large ass bass somewhere, also with a proper enclosure. Class D Amps (for saving Power) and an active crossover. Later add something like freedsp.cc. But first finish the refit :-)
Nice job! I just wonder why they don't put the screws on the inside of the boat, less chance of corroding! I'll have to try that Butyl in a tube.
I second this comment, would be better that way round unless theres a big reason why not
a 2+1 satellite sub system may work better for install.. tiny mid range surface mount cubes in the two corners and a sub hidden in a cabinet or something hidden away.. the sub can go anywhere, probably better sound too with a subwoffer... I did this in my kitchen in my home , stuck the sub in a oddly sized cabinet we didn't really use and put the surface mount speakers in the corners of the room mounted to the ceiling. Huge sound , deep bass, and your really don't see it due to the small cube mid range speakers being the only thing you can see.. no cutting huge holes in walls or ceilings etc.. just running wires. If you a Bose fan, Bose kind of pioneered these sub satellite speaker systems. But now they are very common and available in many brands.
Looks awsome with the new portlights ... i think i also would have been intimidated about bending them during the mounting... but good work ! :)
Love your videos as usual,thank you for sharing your journey. You may have already answered this question but may I inquire the manufacturer of both your paraffin heater and your cabinet style heater you refilled in this video. I am throughly enjoying your efforts.
Oh BTW... first! ;)
Oh Crap. You won. Been waiting all evening for this... :-)
Lol I saw you from cruising the cut and waited to do a binge
Have you considered non-marine / non-flush mounted speakers? Bose also have a lot of these ones. Indoor waterproof speakers also feels like an overkill feature, given your excellent work with the portlights.
Do you have a link or name for your new fuel pump? That would make a great gift for a sailing friend of mine.
And, as usual, 2 thumbs up for your video!
welcome back. glad you had a good time but 2 weeks is too long :) -4 comfortable? LOL id be a an ice cube
Very nicely done :) I am having the same first world problem with my yacht.. I really want a music system but I can't quite bring my self to cut holes in things. Then there is the angle of the speakers to get the best sound. Being a yacht I will be spending most of my time outside so it would be nice if the speakers could give a reasonable volume level in the cockpit. Then there is the power draw, a regular car type setup can flatten batteries in a few hours. In the end it was all too much for me and I chickened out and went for a Bayan soundbook go. Usb charger and I can angle it where needed.. Seeing as you seem to be a bit more hands on than I, could you maybe mount them in the ceiling like the lights?
Hi Mads .. my first instinct would be to screw from the inside just from a point of view of security so they can't be unscrewed from outside or is this just a land lubbers mind set ?! Superb videos by the way ..very addicted... love how you systematically tackle problems .. I'm converted
Looks awesome Mads!
Make small boxes for the speakers and mount them to the forward or aft bulkhead. The boxes will allow you to mount them without cutting holes in the walls.
Great job on the port lights !
Did you put any sealant on the screw heads or threads? If not, you might get water leaking in between the outer frame and screw heads, that follows the screw threads and then leaks on the inside of the cabin from under the backing plates. Might want to look and see if those port light screws need any kind of sealant / bedding compound. Might want to consider putting some blue loctite or a marine equivalent on the tips of the screws so they don't loosen and create leaks later.
WAIT A MINUTE ! Did you just open something up with out your knife ? I get it , your not feeling well..love the lights and the ambience, plus your courage in asking the comments dept. For input ,! Namaste
hey Matt u should check out the possibility of outdoor speakers i have been working on a power charter boat that carries them inside and out they have some bose and some insignia they preform very nice and come with a mount the insignia are affordable you can find them on amazon for 130$ usd a pair
I worked on ship call bw offshore Athena fspo vessel
Nice project your doing
good luck
I was doing cold turkey waiting for this.😳 Now have to sneak away from the family to watch it.😀
Get bracket mounted speakers so you don't have the problem of the back portion of the speaker in another room...such as the heads. Also, when they fail you don't have the problem of getting speakers with the exact same dimensions. If you ever decide to move or remove them, it would be much easier as well.
I would mount them in the aft part, up in the corners. Make a tiriangular piece of wood that the speaker fits on and mount it in the corner so that the bottom of the deck and 2 walls are holding it in place.
I really look forward to these videos :)
Look in to flat speakers. They are based on the military tech, but finally popping out as commercial variants. Amazon has some stuff, but don't confuse it with low profile speakers. They are panel like and usually very flat.
Oh and it's not just the glass system that bends to the shape, there's some give in the cabin top as well. I actually considered mentioning this in the previous issue video, but didn't want to advise you wrongly. It's always best to ask the manufacturer.
Hi Mads,
Great progress on Athena! Seeing Oblex surrounded by ice got me wondering about winterizing about Oblex. Since I dont live aboard my boat, there comes a time every year when need to pack it up for the season, and that means winterizing my engine. Is that something you do on Oblex, or can you skip it since you keep things well above freezing onboard?
I really enjoyed this vid. When will we see you moved abound?
Thanks :) I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) The plan is to move aboard next summer. She won't be done by then, but the rest I'll take care of while living aboard :)
I agree with Ben or you can get 4 and mount them in the ceiling/liner along with the lights. I am surprised you did not put sealant on the inside of the port lights??
As you are a handy guy, why don't you make 2 boxes in the corner of each side, following the line of the wall and place your speakers in there? 2 advantages: they don't require extra space, they only use "lost corner" space and if you put some noise absorbing insulation between the speakers and the wall behind, you won't hear the bass beats in the head as much. Keep up the working and the thinking ;)
Sorry if you've answered this question many times before (I have watched all 195 but can't remember if you've mentioned this on screen), but what video camera(s) are you using, e.g. for your interior work. I know a lot of your mobile footage is gopro, but the video quality inside and stationary shots around the boat are so good it makes me wonder if you use something else there as well. Thanks, great work!
Instal the bose acustics with subwofer!
Great sound in side of boat!
Hi have you considered installing any red light around galley and chart area for night sailing? We used a combined white or red light to solve our space and light needs. On a recent 1000nm voyage it worked a treat and allowed us to keep our night vision. Andy "SV Guenevere".
great vid. Glad you enjoyed the boat show. did you get any footage? keep up the great work.
regarding speaker placement, have you considered putting them low? Perhaps mounting into the settee with only the tanks behind them?
Looking great!
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and why you will drill holes for the speakers? why don't you do small nice boxes to match with the decor and put them in your first location option? I beleave that is the best way to put the speakers at least this is how I am thinking to do for my boat! :)
Also if you go with the Bose (No highs, No lows, Must be Bose) putting them in a box will give a little better bass response. Just my opinion don't burn me guys!!
I imagine a speaker box would be perfect to whack one's head against during a storm...
it depends on where to put the boxes... there are already in the boat plenty of stuff that can whack one's head during a storm... if Mads put them where he pointed his first option I don't believe that will make to much damage.
Great Video ! Maybe a LED light by the entrance steps to make sure you do not miss the steps (or night light). Never heard these port holes called portlights til I was on TH-cam... Thank you for the video ! tjl
Portholes open, portlights do not. :)
Good job on the lights...
Thanks :D
Mads! you boat looks Great!!! it looks like a new boat. How's the hull moisture coming along???