Speed increase from 750watt to 1250watt. Bye bye PEBL #7!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2020
- This video will be my LAST video with PEBL #7. I sold it today to Bob from Seattle and it's in the truck heading back there right now. It's bittersweet, since I haven't been using it much lately, and I know Bob and his two Cocker Spaniels will love riding around in it as much as they did the other day. I wish them the best with their new toy / transportation.
I did an upgrade from 750watts to 1250 watts by changing the motor controller from 15 continuous amps to 25 continuous amps in order to help Bob decide to purchase my PEBL. Hill climbing was a major concern for him and while I didn't really need the extra wattage, I thought it might be interesting for you as well since the new PEBLs have a switch available that gives you the ability (on-road or off-road) to go from 750 watts up to 1500 watts just about 18% more powerful than the upgrade I did.
I went to the same 20%+ incline hill nearby my house that I tested the PEBL on in Episode #10 to show the difference. It really made a difference!
It's been a pleasure interacting with all of you over the last several years and I'm not going anywhere... I'm still going to be biking and will probably be looking into an e-bike before too long so I'll post my reviews as I get them.
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Hi Eric! Thanks for all your videos. I live in Burlington, Vermont. I picked up my orange PEBL from the factory on January 20. I use the 1500 watt mode for my ride to and from work because of the big hills I have to climb. My average speed going up hill is 15 mph with pedaling. On the flats at 1500 watts I get up to 25 mph without pedaling. With pedaling, my efforts are nonexistent as far as speed is concerned. The motor on my PEBL is powerful! Going down hill with pedaling I got it up to 32 mph, 30 with no pedaling. I am 5' 10" and weigh 225 lbs. I am the second person here in Burington to own a PEBL. The other owner lives about 3 miles from me. He has the proto type model.
Hi, considering getting a PEBL. I currently have a 750 watt bafang mid drive pedal assist mountain ebike which I absolutely love. I was just wondering are they as loud as they seem to be in this video? I was shocked at how loud it seems. I would find that to be very off putting. My electric bike creates a small fraction of the decibel noise appearing on this video? Your feed back would be much appreciated. 😊 Thanks.
@@Stariana19 The motor sound is not that bad! I love my PEBL and have ordered one for my wife!
Thanks. Wish my husband would buy me one. Your wife is a lucky lady.
Yo!!! I’m in Colchester. I want one so bad! I’m sick of driving my gas guzzling vehicle for a15 minute drive... I’d love to see yours if I ever possible!
why are you writing this like it’s an email
As time moves on these small tricycles are getting better and more attractive to those who live a 30 minute ride from their place of employment and those who just want to go to get some groceries .
More than half the trips in the UK are said to be less than 5 km making these trikes a viable alternative to the car.
HI Eric, Loved your video. Awesome ending to Pebl adventure. Thanks for your Frank coverage of your experiences. Enjoyed these videos. Well done. 😀👍
Eric, it is sad to see #7 go. I have not been able - or needed to ride mine very much this year. I will take it out tonight for a ~17 mile ride. I live on a hill, and the least steep approach has a section that requires that I pedal, even in high, especially when the voltage drops to below 45V.
Sorry to see #7 go; your videos have been fun and informative; since there's so few of the PEBLs around it's been great to see your upgrades and maintenance. If I may ask, why did you sell it? I think like you, I like taking my normal bike when I can, and in particular right now, when my regular bike commute is non-existant, I don't find myself on it as much any more, but it's still awfully nice in wet weather and for carrying cargo.
A real adventure!
Drive-bye in New Electro vehicles 🤣! "Slide tru the hood and I see no body out side"😂! In the boom box!
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If you ever want to do more PEBL videos, we've got mine to tinker with. I've been dreaming about replacing the spokes on the rear wheel with a thicker gauge, and that might make a fun video.
I don't know if the newer controller has a programming connection? The switch just closes a couple of wires on the controller; so a hardware modification, as opposed to a software mod.
The high power mode switch gets me up to 24-25MPH with a full charge. The charge level makes a HUGE difference in power and top speed.
Hi Eric, would it be possible to change the front brake to the right side?
I'm from Brazil and I love your videos and I intend one day to import a pebl for me.....
I think I can. I think I can. 👍🏼
Hi Eric: Thanks for ALL of your vignettes. You are great and your competence and advice
on the ins and outs of the PEBL are quite remarkable! I have PEBL #0000009, would y ou believe, with 3" tires and wheels. Just had a blow out and I can't find tires. Where and what
kind of tire can I order? I hope you'll continue advising your fans. Doc
This is the stock tire my PEBL came with movatik.com/products/kenda-kraze-tire-24x3-00-wire-clincher-src-60-black?currency=USD&variant=40303449374768&Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw3K2XBhAzEiwAmmgrAqLBu_UrNL1Urikhifg12l-1K6OZYXH4hGpF7EP1LTfn396ZSoB8wBoCVhYQAvD_BwE
That being said this one looks nice to me too www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-components/bike-tires/cruiser-bike-tires/electra-cruiser-fatti-o-24-tire/p/12716/?gclid=CjwKCAjw3K2XBhAzEiwAmmgrAqKuVkKPfXieIRS1pMITOrj7J2grdNFSekza3RG5tK0UvPOqVxVy-hoChdAQAvD_BwE
Hi Eric, I watched your StreetStrider review a while back and inspired me to motorize my Strider, these 68 yr old bones love it!
I see your red sStrider tucked in the garage...have u given some love lately?
We sold the StreetStrider several years ago and bought a recumbent trike… also in red
I think this corner should be more comfortable for the arms, like a gaming steering wheel with a speed clock, etc..
This would be a top seller if they could make the design more modern and elegant. Check out the iris e-trike, Podbike and BioHybrid!
I want one too
Nice Ride =)
How much in your country allowed Watts?
Anohter question, your front window, is that Real Glass or plexiglass?
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Allowed is 750. Plexiglass front window.
Really wattage is about some law thinking watts equals speed. That’s like limiting horsepower on a car to 100. On our Smart Car 100hp is great but it wouldn’t do squat to move our big truck and trailer.
Think there should be new standards about speed or limiters without a license or the like.
I want one so bad
Hi Eric....could you tell me again where I go to hear you talk about no longer having your PEBL. Thanks Steve
this is the last video as it says in the description above.
Hi Eric, I know you don't have your pebl anymore, but was wondering if there was owners manual that came with the pebl or some kind of schematics of what wires are attached where, I bought a used pebl with some minor issues , but having some electrical issues due to riding on the gravel road I live on. I think things got jostled out from their proper spots. That is my assumption. Any assistance would be appreciated the windshield wiper, the turn signals and lights and horn only occasionally work after the first day. Like I said I think it's from riding bumpy road. I can only pedal in 5th, 4th and sometimes 3rd but the rest do not allow me to pedal
I looked through my hard drive and didn't find a manual. I had a manual with my PEBL but it was a printed one that came with the PEBL. When I sold it the manual went to Bob in Seattle (new owner). you might reach out to support on the new better.bike site and see if they can send you a digital copy of the old 1.0 manual.
@@EricFischnaller thanks I've been trying to contact Joe and he doesn't respond. Smh.
What gearing is the chain ring and cog? Im building one of these and i got carried away and built a full on rollcage and its going to be heavy
My PEBL had a triple chainring 22-32-44 in the front. I typically kept it on the middle ring. No front derailleur means moving it manually. I believe the rear was something like 22 tooth. Not sure though. One of my old videos might have that detail. You can use the Sheldon Brown Gear Calculator online to determine a good gear range. You’ll want something 18-90 gear inches for your application.
When I buy mine I'm going to make some modifications, I'm going to put an electric motor in the two front tires, so I'll drive it on the climbs
Hi i had same problem with my E bike, i dropped the gearing right down , thing is ,the only place that matters is the hills , going down is obvious easy, the flats equally easy, so I decided to alter my gears for climbing, i have say fst mode, and with my 🚲 it does 12.2, mph, so I geared it to be in top gear at that 12.2,mph, then geared it to climb. Any way its worth knowing for your possible E bike .
If I actually lived up that hill I’d probably invest in a high torque motor at about 3k watts then speed limit to 19mph, get a schlumph drive or hammerschmitt crankset and is be good to go
The floor isn't closed? Open in cold weather?
The floor under your seat is always enclosed. You can open up the footwell in hot weather.
Is it available in India can it
I predict that Eric will buy a new design of this class of vehicle some day. After 6 years with the ELF as my only transportation I would also consider something new. I also put down a deposit 18 months ago on the new autocycle by Arcimoto. Amazing machine!
Дай Бог, я себе такую куплю.Я нахожу его очень практичным, потому что мы можем установить в него радио и носить сумки, не беспокоясь о том, что он упадет, как обычный велосипед.
May I ask why you sold it? I’m trying to decide between buying a PEBL or ELF
It’s an expensive vehicle to have around that I no longer needed. I work from home now and my kids no longer fit behind my seat. I’d rather ride my road bike for a ride and if it’s pouring down rain I’ll just wait until it lets up to go out.
You may have a difficult time getting a PEBL at this time I’ve been hearing they are developing a 2.0 version
Hello good, I am from Spain where can I buy one of these?????
Shipping from the US will be very very costly. The PEBL will need alterations to be legal in the EU. There are new car-bikes being made and sold in the EU. Are you familiar with the Mo made in Spain? Or the new Drycycle from the UK? www.drycycle.co.uk/
Is it available on Amazon,,in India,?
Neither. You have to order direct from better.bike
I want to see a conventional velomobile running a 1000w electric motor. It's got to be 60mph .. the height of efficiency.
Seems like you could use another gear to assist you up those steaper hills. Nice design though.
No matter how many low gears you have you will never get paddling up a hill with a 200 pound bike. You can actually drop the chain from the middle chain ring to the lower chain ring and then essentially you have eight granny gears but that doesn’t help you because it’s still a 200 pound bike
@@EricFischnaller Does the motor connect direct to the wheel or is it connected through a gearing system?
@@chrisliddiard725 motor connects with motorcycle chain directly to wheel. Pedaling system connects to wheel on the other side of the wheel. Throttle gives a range of speed from little to max. Pedal system has 8 gears using an internal gear hub.
@@EricFischnaller As i thought. I guess this will come next for that style of vehicle. Some kind of gearing between the motor and the wheels would convert its fast spining low torque motor into something able to take that pod up a hill, albeit slowly. Either that or upgrade the motor to a higher torque motor one able to use the extra watts supplied by the controller.
@@chrisliddiard725 An ELF owner James Mcginley went 34,000 miles in his while towing a sleeping box covered with solar panels. That rig would weigh about 300 pounds. He geared it all the way down to 1 mph for the steepest mountain passes. It burnt up in a fire 6 months ago. He then built another one and has done several thousand more miles since. His ELF is plastered with Jesus and god slogans...
Why did you sell your pebl?
My kids we’re getting too big to ride in back and life was just changing it made more sense to sell than keep it. Shortly after selling I started working remotely.
Just out of curiosity, why did you decide to sell it? I haven't seen any of your previous videos if you explained it in a previous video. For me the PEBL is way too expensive to justify even buying unless it's going to be my everyday vehicle which comes with a lot of risks. Accidents, theft, etc;
You are still going on about this? You have been corrected many times. This class of bike is the safest ever made and theft risk is extremely low compared to other bikes. There is no 'etc' either. 1000 ELFS covered 6 million road miles with zero fatalities.
Probably a 2nd motor would help on that hill
3k watts would work or maybe 3 motors : )
Mi mamá es de la tercera edad aparte es discapacitada no tiene sus pies este vehículo me parecería muy bueno para transportarla, no contamina y no vamos estorbando en el trasporte puede lico
podría funcionar, es posible que deba modificarlo para convertirlo en un ciclo de mano
Please lauch in India also
I don’t think the new owner will be peeling all over Seattle. Seattle has some major hills.
The Seattle area is large. In downtown there are killer hills almost 45 degrees steep that will defeat any legal ebike ever made and many heavy trucks. In the many surrounding areas the hills can be long but mostly not extreme. The trail system is really great there, lots of converted rail trails with gentle grades meant to be compatible with trains.
Pimp my PEBL...
I know how to make this PEBL #7 into a PEBL #1. Get a fat tire ebike kit that does 8000Wh or more.
😂
Poate că ar fi bune dar nu și pe panta an sus
That's cool when I get my Pit in there! And can drive to. But whit my E-Scooter, can I climb the highest Mounten, whit good 20kmh! And no problem. Ore one, my Dog can not get there🤷♂️! And in Vienna, you wan't not drive to slowly, on street! To much thumb car driver, whit Islamic Background 🤷♂️!
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friction generator dynamo for bike lamp is 12v, so attach maybe 7 on back tires you can charged battery while driving no on electric mode, "self recharge PEBL" why not change the wheels with soft wheels and airless tires while you add it hahaha lets called it "self recharge PEBL motorhome" hihihihi so sorry I'm worse then mad scientist lol
Absurd! You are suggesting what you think could be a perpetual motion machine. Bike lamp generators are highly inefficient, 7 of them would destroy a bike tire with just a few rides and it would be like dragging an anchor. They generate more heat and friction than power. Airless tires have more rolling resistance unless they are rock hard.
@@popeyegordon first happen to me but here is the trick to get around that axle is the key, also now there is 48v generator mini size and about rotation rpm, that's extra gear and chain coming do the stuff, you know about portable motor for bicycle rubbee? set same stuff but different purpose not for giving wheel extra push but collecting rpm from tire to generate electric generator... my dream before this covid19 hell hole to buy a pebl but after years saving all my saving now for foods and stuffs cause get fired from my job
@@darktechfst3424 You are a real oddball. You upvoted your own comment. You refuse to grasp the fact that perpetual motion is impossible due to laws of physics. All generators extracting energy from a moving vehicle can only slow it down. That's what regenerative braking is - a PARTIAL recovery of energy by using the inefficiency of friction to slow the vehicle. If you rig up your idea and coast down a long steep mountain road for one mile, you generate only enough energy to return 1/10th of a mile back up that hill. Abandon your fantasy - it is an embarrassment to your school teachers. They failed to teach you about physics and the myth of perpetual motion.
@@popeyegordon before that simple question, can you apply that make you wheel faster using first gear into generator rpm? if you say it can't be done, so why my sold used MTB bike become home made ebike self charging?
@@popeyegordon sorry mate, poor people like me don't used theory on book to get what we want, we used any parts we can get in old days, even very old friction lamp bike generator
, dark age know, my name darktech given cause i work anything what i get my hand with
What you need is 5000 watt motor put on that bike and make it legal to go 55 I stay alive Anna pebble legally without getting pulled over by cop cuz you're illegal but will generators on the wheels the wind turbine on it somewhere solar panels it already has make it all thread as you can soup it up charge it up and rock the road like I have never been drunk before buy a bicycle super bikes that's what we need supercharged evike pebbles and Elmer that's what we need agree with me buddy I hope you do
You are clueless about the laws that govern ebikes, as well as the laws of physics. Any added generators or wind power devices can only slow it down and never add to the speed or range. That is a reference to perpetual motion machines which can not exist. Solar panels are the only practical upgrade.
A 5000 watt motor would not only be impractical because the battery required to turn on and propel such a motor would be huge and heavy - the Tesla Model 3 uses a 439 kW motor for instance and weighs 3600 - 4200lbs. I'm guessing that you're not capable of propelling such a weight on 3 wheels at any speed via pedals. This would be required to meet the requirements of bicycling - also it would have to be under 750 watts to be a bike. Now if you're throwing that out the window and wanting to just get a super-speed PEBL, then go for it - you won't be able to turn without flipping and rolling. I wouldn't recommend taking a corner in the PEBL at greater than 10mph unless you want to roll. So going in a straight line then.... except the weight of the battery and motor will crush the wheels... well I guess your idea is just shot then. Maybe we just go the way of Doc Brown and have the wheels fold up, the PEBL flies above the ground and teleports into the future. That might be more feasible than a PEBl with a 5 kW motor and 55mph speed.
Is it available in India?
Last I knew it wasn’t, but you should check with better.bike to be sure