Great film about the 1520/1435mm rail infrastructure interface. Couldn't have made it any better myself. It must be a difficult task to change the bogies out in the open air especially during the winter months, unlike the situation at Брэст, Беларусь where its done in a building. I noted that the 1520mm track sees little use over the border into Hungary, whereas both gauges over the Polish/Беларусь border are very heavily used.
I believe the tracks around Chop were modernized (and a 1520 mm option was added) sometimes after the Second World War when the new border between the Soviet Union with the neighbouring countries (Czechoslovakia, Romania and Hungary) was established; During Soviet times I believe there must have been much more traffic (both on the 1435 and 1520 spur); after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, cargo was moved more and more by trucks; Moreover, the bad Economic development of Ukraine in the past 25 years also led to a decline in rail cargo traffic
From what I’ve gathered so far, the same train as moved westward (increased film speed bit) as a European guage train, changed guages at Chop, and is now going out back eastward on Russian guage track . Nifty!
It might be the same train, but the speedy part is the same footage as the normal speed one. The train crossed border on river Tisza on bridge, from Ukraine to Hungary. Chop train station is on the ukrainian side, that’s where the changing happens. The train used the EU tracks on the bridge, and it’s clearly visible that the soviet tracks were not used for a long time. So when a train goes from Ukraine to Hungary, it is on soviet tracks in Ukraine > train arrives in Chop station on soviet tracks > moves to bogie change facility, change happens > train goes back to Chop station now on EU tracks, still in Ukraine > crosses border on bridge from Ukraine to Hungary > arrives at Záhony station in Hungary
Great video ! Thanks for posting here ! I would like to ask, if you in future will record railway border Ukraine - Slovakia (Chop - Cierna nad Tisou), because it could be very interesting. But the disadvantage is that over line runs only two pairs of train during day :-/
Schade dass keine Texte oder Kommentar dabei ist, man weiss nicht wo man ist. Die unzähligen Räder und Drehgestelle : man weiß nicht was wohin gehört. Sonst TOP! Danke
procedure is quite similar, although I have the impression it's doing a little better (Čierna nad Tisou is one of Slovakia's biggest rail yards). I was there in Nov 2016.
different story right now in Chop Ukraine Zahony Hungary EU Schengen Zone you would have huge amount of trains carrying refugees from the russian-speaking eastern Ukraine region to Budapest eventually München & Augsburg Hbf via Schnellfahrstrecke Wien St Polten Salzburg Rosenheim. VL82 Kherson/Kharkiv Chop where the train changes gauge 1.520m former Soviet Union to 1.435m Ukraine
Видос великолепный, но конец печальный- уезжали из Чопа, вроде бы вьехали в Венгрию, а всё равно оказались в Чопе, как будто бы и не уезжали. И всё время скрипит не то вагоны, не то само полотно, того гляди, всё развалится.
Скрипит в месте соединения тележки с корпусом вагона при прохождении кривых малого радиуса. Это нормальное явление для вагонов, особенно если тележки очень часто меняют.
The same thing is done at the border between Moldova and Romania. The daily train between Chisinau, Moldova and Bucharest operates with Russian and Ukrainian built rolling stock like the train in the video and Moldova's railways are built to the Russian broad gauge.
I've never heard of a way to buy tickets outside Romania or Moldova but at the same time as you point out Ive never seen the train full. There always seems to be plenty of space and except for once when I rode it with a group, the Young Pioneer Tours Eurasian Adventure Tour, I've always had a two berth second class room to myself.
If I want to Hungary (diesel single-track railway), I can take the express train. If I want to Slovakia (electrified double-track railway), there are only a few (if any) ordinary passenger trains between Chop and Čierna nad Tisou:/
The state border between Ukraine and Hungary on this stretch passes through the railway bridge . Then who serves this bridge : Ukrainian or Hungarian railway workers ? The Ukrainian side at the entrance of the bridge to set a border booth, and on the Hungarian side of the bridge box is empty , why? Why not haul portion of the electrified ?
If your passports were taken in, I guess you were not allowed to have a little stroll in town? Not that Chop is such an entertaining place, but still, you might be able to get rid of some last UAH buying a snack or grabbing some dinner...
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Excellent, well edited video. Bravo.
0:50 -- 0:57 --- даа, чудово пам"ятаю це міст через р.Тиса, коли впереше почав їздити в Венгрію у 1992-95 роках. Буремні часи були...зовсім дикі..
Nice video;the train runs very slowly across the border
Great film about the 1520/1435mm rail infrastructure interface. Couldn't have made it any better myself. It must be a difficult task to change the bogies out in the open air especially during the winter months, unlike the situation at Брэст, Беларусь where its done in a building. I noted that the 1520mm track sees little use over the border into Hungary, whereas both gauges over the Polish/Беларусь border are very heavily used.
I believe the tracks around Chop were modernized (and a 1520 mm option was added) sometimes after the Second World War when the new border between the Soviet Union with the neighbouring countries (Czechoslovakia, Romania and Hungary) was established; During Soviet times I believe there must have been much more traffic (both on the 1435 and 1520 spur); after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, cargo was moved more and more by trucks; Moreover, the bad Economic development of Ukraine in the past 25 years also led to a decline in rail cargo traffic
jon townsend нш
How do these containers move from China to Hungary - without touching Russia?
@@doc7austin Чоп это граница с Венгрией и Словакией
16:57 The Tisza River marks the border between Ukraine and Budapest at this section. Hungary not Budapest :)
From what I’ve gathered so far, the same train as moved westward (increased film speed bit) as a European guage train, changed guages at Chop, and is now going out back eastward on Russian guage track . Nifty!
It might be the same train, but the speedy part is the same footage as the normal speed one. The train crossed border on river Tisza on bridge, from Ukraine to Hungary. Chop train station is on the ukrainian side, that’s where the changing happens. The train used the EU tracks on the bridge, and it’s clearly visible that the soviet tracks were not used for a long time.
So when a train goes from Ukraine to Hungary, it is on soviet tracks in Ukraine > train arrives in Chop station on soviet tracks > moves to bogie change facility, change happens > train goes back to Chop station now on EU tracks, still in Ukraine > crosses border on bridge from Ukraine to Hungary > arrives at Záhony station in Hungary
Интересно посмотреть место , где служил 26 лет назад. КПП " Дружба". Спасибо.
TAN КК И как, сильно изменилось по сравнению с СССР?
@@Dmitry_Bogdanov почти никак...толъко в СССР постоянно крытые стояли по 2-3..а тут-порожняк
Jó lett a videó 😉
Good video. Amusing and informative. I love railroads. Gonna subscribe. Thanks!
Klassz lett a videód főleg a vonat tengelyezes nyomtáv ..
Great! Amazing historical facts and detailed explanation.
Great video ! Thanks for posting here ! I would like to ask, if you in future will record railway border Ukraine - Slovakia (Chop - Cierna nad Tisou), because it could be very interesting. But the disadvantage is that over line runs only two pairs of train during day :-/
there is a cierna - chop video available in my channel; however, it is 10 years old and of limited quality
Why not to record new version? It would be great!
I agree...
Schade dass keine Texte oder Kommentar dabei ist, man weiss nicht wo man ist. Die unzähligen Räder und Drehgestelle : man weiß nicht was wohin gehört. Sonst TOP! Danke
procedure is quite similar, although I have the impression it's doing a little better (Čierna nad Tisou is one of Slovakia's biggest rail yards). I was there in Nov 2016.
It's a great video production, thank you
Thanx. Very nice.
Интересное видео)👍
Согласен, да. Качественно и вид из окна не плохой очень даже. Интересный. Ничего мрачного я не увидел.
Почему так надо менять тележки под вагонами
Клас!
Cheers! Thought my laptop was having a 'wobbly!' lol!
Grussfrequenzen offen, vielen Dank für dieses Video !
Very slow train there -,although great video
Great video. Like me!!!
Довелось пожить несколько лет в Чопе.Ещё в советские времена.
блатное место, правда?
@@СергейРяшкин А чем-блатное то?
@@ВасилийПетров-ч6к рядом - 4 границы, горы, всё растёт, бабы кросивые, мало, что-ли?!
@@СергейРяшкин Ну ты-романтик,однако!
The 1520 mm gauge track at the border is very rusted. Is there any broad gauge train passing the border to Hungary?
No.
Very rarely.
Mik ezek a rettenetes hangok közben? Száraz a csúszótám?
Колії ще з радянських часів, мабуть довгий час не обслуговувалися. Та й потяги також не нові.
Кто знает,автосцепки на винтовую упряжь меняют на всех вагонах или только на крайних???
Только на крайних.
See spare couplers at 6:34
Зачем на всех? Промежуточный вагон ставят - с одной его стороны - винтовая, с другой - СА-3. Там такой состав проходил, первый вагон был венгерский.
Привіт з міста Чернівці! :)
different story right now in Chop Ukraine Zahony Hungary EU Schengen Zone you would have huge amount of trains carrying refugees from the russian-speaking eastern Ukraine region to Budapest eventually München & Augsburg Hbf via Schnellfahrstrecke Wien St Polten Salzburg Rosenheim. VL82 Kherson/Kharkiv Chop where the train changes gauge 1.520m former Soviet Union to 1.435m Ukraine
Интересно девки пляшут... Значит, основная магистраль идёт на Словакию, а на Венгрию только одна колея?
Существует ещё одна магистраль Батево-Эперьешке через которую идет основной грузовой поток с Украины в Венгрию
так Венгрия это дерёвня...
Видос великолепный, но конец печальный- уезжали из Чопа, вроде бы вьехали в Венгрию, а всё равно оказались в Чопе, как будто бы и не уезжали. И всё время скрипит не то вагоны, не то само полотно, того гляди, всё развалится.
Скрипит в месте соединения тележки с корпусом вагона при прохождении кривых малого радиуса. Это нормальное явление для вагонов, особенно если тележки очень часто меняют.
Я у венгрии была красиый город 🔥🔥👍👋
Is this train still running?
@rogi8807 no
How are the wheel bogies changed from 1435 to 1520 mm ?
In Ukraine side (Chop)
Интересно...на Дружбе так же с модярами службу тащат или уже нет??...и Зайсан в негодности...и валик около системы никто не копает....бардак
How can buy ticket for Hungary??
0:50 (16:45) на ж/д мосту одна колея?! 😲
Не там одна европейская и одна укр.
так,одна міст з 1234року
Does 1520 mm see any action after the border and where does it go to after the split?
There are classification railway yards around the area where usually the freight trains go, that's where you can go if you follow the 1520mm gauge
UZからMAVに乗り入れる台車交換所の前後の配線と沿線風景が物凄く似ているのは、諜報対策でしょうか。
а ипуть в Венгрию вообще не отремонтирован и не обновлен.
Вопрос знатокам!У венгров также регулируется высота контактного провода стяжкой из проволоки?
Да
The same thing is done at the border between Moldova and Romania. The daily train between Chisinau, Moldova and Bucharest operates with Russian and Ukrainian built rolling stock like the train in the video and Moldova's railways are built to the Russian broad gauge.
+Clay Gilliland Is the Prietenia train now running daily again?
YES, it is.
it is quite difficult to buy the reservation for this train outside of Romania and Moldova - albeit the train is not always full.
I've never heard of a way to buy tickets outside Romania or Moldova but at the same time as you point out Ive never seen the train full. There always seems to be plenty of space and except for once when I rode it with a group, the Young Pioneer Tours Eurasian Adventure Tour, I've always had a two berth second class room to myself.
When I was in Bucharest a couple weeks ago it was running daily. The consist was shorter than I've seen it in the past.
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which of the two countries is in the EU?
Sam Sitar Hungary (EU) after 17 min.
If I want to Hungary (diesel single-track railway), I can take the express train. If I want to Slovakia (electrified double-track railway), there are only a few (if any) ordinary passenger trains between Chop and Čierna nad Tisou:/
The state border between Ukraine and Hungary on this stretch passes through the railway bridge . Then who serves this bridge : Ukrainian or Hungarian railway workers ? The Ukrainian side at the entrance of the bridge to set a border booth, and on the Hungarian side of the bridge box is empty , why? Why not haul portion of the electrified ?
Ive just realized that how big is the difference between east and west Hungary :O
Wow, great border.
😍
Is this speeded-up film?
+Ian McKinnon yes, the start scene has been speed up by factor 6
If your passports were taken in, I guess you were not allowed to have a little stroll in town? Not that Chop is such an entertaining place, but still, you might be able to get rid of some last UAH buying a snack or grabbing some dinner...
right,is not allowed to go out of train if a passport taken in on the border
You also need to go to the toilet before arriving at the border.
❤️💐❤️🇧🇩💐💐❤️❤️
No Zahony Záhony*
Читал информацию, что после распада СССР на этом перегоне сняли контактную сеть и нашу колею.
справой стороны путь вообще не действующий и видно как новый.
Nice movie
Ну не знаю чего и добавить. У нас россия недалеко была.,а с недавних пор стала еще ближе.
из Украину в Венгрию хуже дорога и медленно..
8:52
Ukraine ❤️
Насчитал 2 бессмысленных глухих перекрестка.
Ukraine - a rich European country . Ahahahahahahahahahahah )))))))))))))))))))))))))
Bruh its actually the poorest
@@pinba4136 guess it was an irony. A pretty strong one 😂
That's because a border. If you'll go to Kyiv - another talk
ОЧЕНЬ БЫСТРО !!! ЖАЛЬ - ТАК И НЕ ПОСМОТРЕЛ ! ДИЗЛАЙК !!!
Holy shit...these countries are so poor I'm happy to life in Central Europe
Ádám Besenyei Lebe in Zürich und die Schweiz is mein Land
Al Yarrdam-el-islam-abdullah Du musst dann wissen,dass die Schweiz nicht für euch geeignet ist.Ihr seid agressiv,faul und frech.
Seems poor because it's not the centre of the country
Hungary is in Central Europe too. Ukraine has hybrid war with Russia and corruption.