Songs that have a Mixed Meter

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    0:00 Introduction
    0:20 Golden Brown by The Stranglers
    0:41 Faust Arp by Radiohead
    0:53 Hey Ya! by OutKast
    1:33 Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush
    2:23 Blackbird by The Beatles
    3:00 Four Sticks by Led Zeppelin
    3:43 Thomann
    4:27 Mountains by Biffy Clyro
    5:17 Bastard by Ben Folds
    6:15 One by Metallica
    7:00 Turn It On Again by Genesis
    8:47 Happiness is a Warm Gun by The Beatles
    11:41 Clap by David Bennett

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  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano  ปีที่แล้ว +34

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    • @prinzkiwi8207
      @prinzkiwi8207 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok

    • @jasonfanclub4267
      @jasonfanclub4267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    • @mikaeldk5700
      @mikaeldk5700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please, Dream Theater - Dance of Eternity 🙏🙏

    • @LeReubzRic
      @LeReubzRic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a Thomann piano

  • @JEN-fo5bq
    @JEN-fo5bq ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Tools entire discography

    • @NegativeCreepYT
      @NegativeCreepYT ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Exactly. I was hoping to see an example of Tool.

    • @bmac4
      @bmac4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Prog in general lol

    • @topofsm
      @topofsm ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I know this is a joke, but Tool Ænima and before that is pretty 4/4 heavy for a progressive metal band, especially Undertow and Opiate. Even Lateralus’ songs generally aren’t in much mixed meter (except Schism lol and the title track), and songs in weird time signatures like The Grudge or The Patient are pretty much consistent the entire song length.
      Sorry to sound like that guy, haha. When I was a teen listening to Ænima the first time I was actually disappointed between what I expected and what I got based on the hype, but tbh Ænima is much cooler for other reasons.

    • @JEN-fo5bq
      @JEN-fo5bq ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@topofsm ænima happens to be my favourite album by tool it’s all cool bro

    • @Tf2andnothingelse
      @Tf2andnothingelse ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@topofsm Just on the topic of The Grudge, one could argue that the entire song is in 10/8 (with the occasional 6/8 during *that* scream), but it's how they divide 10/8 into different groupings that can qualify it as a song with frequent time changes. Sometimes they actually are playing in 10/8, but sometimes they're playing two bars of 5/8. Sometimes one bar of 6/8 followed by one bar of 4/8. And sometimes five bars of 2/4.

  • @diseasefreeforall
    @diseasefreeforall ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Story 2 by Clipping is a rap song that changes from 3/4 to 4/4 to 5/4, 6/4, 7/4, 8/4 then does the same with eighth notes while sounding perfectly logical. It's amazing.

    • @kilianbeyly3934
      @kilianbeyly3934 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hum, sounds interesting. :) I had never heard about that song before, but you made me want to check it out!

    • @kilianbeyly3934
      @kilianbeyly3934 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      OK that was literally mesmerizing... Thanks so much for mentioning that song! 🙏Such a great discovery for me.

    • @aaronclift
      @aaronclift ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It also does a metric modulation, which is truly impressive.

    • @therobotFrom94
      @therobotFrom94 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it so perfectly encapsulates the heightening intensity of the story and the protags anxiety

    • @criticalsick
      @criticalsick ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that was incredible thanks for sharing

  • @DisjointedConversations
    @DisjointedConversations ปีที่แล้ว +110

    This is pretty common in the Prog world. As a drummer, the "Turn it on Again" is a great example. You have to really concentrate when playing this one.

    • @jspihlman
      @jspihlman ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's what I was going to say. Turn it on Again very much feels like a leftover song from their 70's prog rock origin.

    • @Astfgl
      @Astfgl ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's a little sad that Genesis received the label of "pop band" due to their success in the '80s, when a lot of their more well-known material from that time still carries a LOT of their '70s prog rock roots. They're a band who managed to bring prog rock to the mainstream in such a way that it feels effortless and many people failed to notice it.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Astfgl Same with Rush. Their 80s output is still proggy af even if it's 4-5 minute songs.

  • @user-xe8uw6lt2f
    @user-xe8uw6lt2f ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Dream Theater's Dance of Eternity is definetely a good example of a song that switches time signatures a lot. There are around 108 time signature changes in just 6 minutes(depends on how you write it down). Knowing that I think you can see why this song is regarder as one of the most complex progressive metal pieces of all time.

    • @bazookaman1353
      @bazookaman1353 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you think DoE is crazy look up "soflan-chan" on TH-cam, it's a weeb song but it has even more time signatures and has a bonus, tempo changes too.

    • @ok5988
      @ok5988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bazookaman1353 and if you that isn't crazy enough the rite of spring by Igor Stravinsky has the Guinness world record for the most time signature changes

    • @bazookaman1353
      @bazookaman1353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ok5988 True, but it's 40 minutes long so the density isn't as strong at times.

    • @ok5988
      @ok5988 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bazookaman1353 yes indeed so instead how about bloom by through the buried and me, which has just time signature changes as dream theater but nearly half the length

    • @bazookaman1353
      @bazookaman1353 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ok5988 Interesting, never heard of it.

  • @cdprince768
    @cdprince768 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    One of my favorite examples of mixed meter in when Blondie switches to 7/4 in the chorus of Heart of Glass. Yes, 7/4 in a disco song. 🙂

    • @DrJoshGuitar
      @DrJoshGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just listened - it's only during the keyboard break where they switch to 7/8 (which is over the chorus chords). Never noticed that.

    • @djijspeakerguy4628
      @djijspeakerguy4628 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was in his “songs that skip a beat” video already. (Notated as alternating 4/4 and 3/4 measures.) It’s a cool sound and really resolves once you get back into the 4/4 section.

    • @cdprince768
      @cdprince768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djijspeakerguy4628 Yes, I see that now, thanks. He does mention at the end it can also be notated as 7/4.

    • @ChiroChihiro
      @ChiroChihiro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THANK YOU!!! I was looking for a song which I couldn't remember the title or the lyrics of, all I remembered was that it changed signature. Hoped to find it in the video, found it thanks to your comment instead :D

  • @mauritsbv
    @mauritsbv ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Funny that for Turn It On Again, Mike Rutherford played a slow guitar riff at first. Phil told him to speed it up and said ‘Do you realize it’s in 13/8’ on which Mile replied ‘What do you mean it’s in 13/8, it’s in 4/4’ but it was in 13.

    • @Bronco541
      @Bronco541 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've read a lot of bands are that way. Even for myself; I've noticed when I get ideas that just pop into my head they often don't follow along a specific meter or key or anything.

  • @Moonless_Future
    @Moonless_Future ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I find it interesting that nearly every example listed is from before the widespread use of DAW recording. I'm speculating that before artists, engineers, and producers could see their songs laid out bar-by-bar on a grid, it was easier to write a mixed-meter song "by feel" and not realize it - whereas nowadays there's a higher chance that someone might only recognize mixed-meter songs aren't lining up to that grid in the expected way and try to "fix" them.

    • @dougkearns
      @dougkearns ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I recall an interview where Collins talked about pointing out to Rutherford that his Turn It On Again riff was in 13 when he first played it for him. Rutherford just hadn't thought about it.

  • @jamesdaniels487
    @jamesdaniels487 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think the solo from Money by Pink Floyd is in 4/4 rather than the rest of the song that is in 7/4

  • @JKenjiLopezAlt
    @JKenjiLopezAlt ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Whats even cooler about Happiness is a Warm Gun I’d that during the final 3/4 section, Ringo is still playing in 4/4 while everyone else is in three.
    Also I think here comes the sun is possibly the greatest mixed meter pop song of all time as it’s got some really wild time signature changes yet it sounds so natural when listening to it.

    • @derrick20
      @derrick20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow hello kenji, cool to see you here

  • @SelfPropelledDestiny
    @SelfPropelledDestiny ปีที่แล้ว +84

    9:52 As a song I've analyzed deeply, I have to say that this part while technically being mixed meter, is also a really great and accessible example of polymeter. The harmonic section (bass, guitar, keys) switch to 3/4, but Ringo's drums continue in 4/4 (maybe due to him not knowing exactly what is happening there) so you end up with 3 bars of 4/4 drums over 4 bars of 3/4 harmony. The drums written on 3/4 sheet would look like this | K _ S | _ K _ | S _ K | _ S _ |, which is quite different than they would be if Ringo were internalizing the 3/4 time.

    • @mikeprice25
      @mikeprice25 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think ringo knew, they just liked the wonky 4/4 over 3/4 feel. He plays in 3/4 earlier in the song.

    • @Deu_terio
      @Deu_terio ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He totally knew

    • @raoulkurvitz6305
      @raoulkurvitz6305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tend to think also that he knew; however their sound engineer Geoff Emerick has told that quite often they really didn't have an idea what they were doing by their metrics, and Geoff had to clear up the mess what (mainly Lennon!) :-) was creating. Simply by cutting and glewing the tape, to make the time signatures to fit. Yet he did it with great discreetness, and always discussing his proposals with the band.

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Ben Folds had an interesting discussion of "Bastards" on his podcast Lightning Bugs. I believe it was in the episode with Chris Thile. He talked about wanting to get free of the tyranny of a fixed time signature. He wrote the song by feel, so it would sound more like the way he would play if he was just sitting alone at a piano. And then the band had to sort of figure out what he was doing and follow along. His goal was to have a song with a bunch of rhythmic variation that felt "natural" and not like a prog track. I think he succeeded. When I listen to it, I hardly hear the meter changes.

    • @geordiemack4143
      @geordiemack4143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been listening to Bastard for years and never noticed the shifting time signatures till this video! I've always wondered why I got the timing of Ben's "Huh!" at the end of the track wrong way too often. Songs For Silverman is a criminally underrated album and it's great to see it get credit where credits due.

    • @PlanetoftheDeaf
      @PlanetoftheDeaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geordiemack4143 Same here. I guess that's a sign of great writing, when something odd actually sounds perfectly natural

  • @ESLSongs
    @ESLSongs ปีที่แล้ว +38

    One of my personal favourites is Mother, by Pink Floyd. It's a conversation where the son sings in 4/4 (actually it sounds like an alternating 3/4 and 5/4) and the mother sings in 3/4. It's so well done and so simple and the two time signatures blend so well together because of the off-beat 4/4

    • @kilianbeyly3934
      @kilianbeyly3934 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Perfect example! Actually if I am not mistaken, each sentence during the verse even starts with a bar of 5/8 followed by a few 4/4 bars (I can't remember if there are 4 or 5 of them 😅), then it's all 4/4 until the last bar which is a 3/4 one. The chorus switch extremely smoothly to 6/8 (Btw, a very similar change can be heard in the chorus section of Dream theater's "fatal tragedy", which is an even funnier example due to the fact that the melody stays the same, only the meter changes).
      And indeed it seems like the "mother" changes in time signatures also represent the changes of focalization (from the son to the mother). Brilliant song anyway, thanks for mentionning it. 👌 The comments section is almost as interesting as the video itself! 😁

    • @ESLSongs
      @ESLSongs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kilianbeyly3934 Oh yeah, you're right... it's a lot more complicated than how I described it.

    • @kilianbeyly3934
      @kilianbeyly3934 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ESLSongs Yes but that's the beauty of it : we all perceive it as a very natural sounding rhythm due to the fact that it fits the lyrics and singing perfectly. :) (and I had even forgotten about that 9/8 bar at the end of the chorus 😅)
      And another fun fact : Nick Mason himself found this song extremely hard to play because of the numerous meters changes. Therefore he is not drumming on that one, but the band hired Toto's Jeff Porcaro just for that very track.

    • @ESLSongs
      @ESLSongs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kilianbeyly3934 Yes, it's a beautiful song, although I'm surprised Mason found it too hard to play considering how naturally the meters combine with each other.

    • @nicolassalmon824
      @nicolassalmon824 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember that Jugband blues, from the Barrett era, had a very confusing music sheet

  • @michaelschneider603
    @michaelschneider603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now I understand why Genesis finished up with a whole album called "We Can't Dance". :-)

  • @stefanwimmer6610
    @stefanwimmer6610 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    As mentioned already: Genesis' "Firth of Fifth"!
    Its really weird, erratic and confusing time signature mix in the piano intro and first half of the instrumental section is worth talking about one day, David! 😊

    • @Astfgl
      @Astfgl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The entirety of "Selling England By The Pound" is filled with odd time signatures and meter changes. Songs like "The Battle of Epping Forest" and "Cinema Show" are almost impossible to dissect, but they're real adventures of musical discovery. Wonderful album, and I'm glad that Genesis themselves kept honoring it even up to their last tour.

    • @GalorOmer
      @GalorOmer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I was waiting for him to mention that. It's like 2/4 15/8 2/4 13/8 and then keep alternating until the verse starts with 4/4 and the songs stays there until that bombastic part that returns to the beginning theme with the alternating time signatures.

  • @wingracer1614
    @wingracer1614 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Don't know if they ever cracked the top 10 but Tool's Schism is a hit that is very metrically erratic.
    And of course there is Outshined with it's 7/4 verses and 4/4 chorus
    Rush Limelight is a hit that is all over the place.

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Schism won a Grammy
      Edit: curiosity got the best of me. None of Tool's singles reached the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 charts, but had decent showings in the US Billboard Rock charts. Their albums however peaked at 19, 2, 1, 1, and 1 on the Billboard 200.

    • @emmanuelmiquet4508
      @emmanuelmiquet4508 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was really expecting some Tool on a changing time signature video ^^ Pneuma would also be a good example

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Freewill is another Rush hit with really erratic time changes.

    • @ChaiElemental
      @ChaiElemental ปีที่แล้ว

      A band my sister was fronting once lost a battle of the bands because they played "Schism" perfectly and the judges didn't know the song and thought many of the time signature changes were mistakes.

    • @andrewellis712
      @andrewellis712 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they don’t count because they aren’t Radiohead or the Beatles

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Shine on you crazy Diamond parts 1-5 shifts from 3/4 to a more bouncey 6/8 during the sax outro, as a more jarring transition to Welcome to the Machine(the next track) and parts 6-9 briefly dips into a 4/4 pattern for its disco section

  • @wellurban
    @wellurban ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As you say at the end, many of these examples will arise from an “intuitive songwriter” approach, where playing around with melody ends up with shifting rhythms without having been deliberately planned that way. Some will come from the other extreme, where the drummer or other rhythm-focused musician intentionally explores complex rhythms: less common in pop, but more prevalent in prog or experimental styles such as Genesis or Radiohead. Another case might be the theatrically-inclined such as Queen, where the changes might mark distinct sections in a through-composed song.

  • @ThomannMusic
    @ThomannMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a good video! Thanks for the feature :)

  • @kelprofitt
    @kelprofitt ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Logical Song by Supertramp is another one that alternates between 6/4 and 4/4 in the verse sections.

  • @england101510
    @england101510 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, I never realized Happiness is a Warm Gun was all over the place with its time signatures. I was the same with the 7/8 sections of Paranoid Android by Radiohead until it was pointed out to me.

  • @tssn1611
    @tssn1611 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'll add Tool's "Schism" as a song that reached the top 10 (number 2 on a couple of US charts) and is all over the place with the time signature.

  • @kevinmcgauhey9813
    @kevinmcgauhey9813 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wrote a 3/4 time "instrumental" section into an otherwise 4/4 song a couple of years ago, and I was really proud of it! (Wish me luck getting it recorded!)

  • @fenderbass0
    @fenderbass0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zappa’s Flower Punk. Groove changes between 7/8 and 5/8.

  • @unclebozo9845
    @unclebozo9845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Coldplay's "Glass of Water" from their Prospekt's March EP changes from a 4/4 verse to a 7/4 chorus. Also the climax of their song "Death and All His Friends" is also in 7/4.

  • @ornleifs
    @ornleifs ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Another song by Kate Bush that changes meter is "Night of the Swallow" from "Dreaming" - the song is mainly in 4/4 but then she sings two bars of 3/4 the line "I wont let you do it" followed by one bar of 5/4 with the line "I won't let you go through with it" and then returning back to 4/4 and then in the middle of the song there comes a section in 6/8.

    • @LlamaDuckKing
      @LlamaDuckKing ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, love that song! The meter and the tempo and texture changes just make it so chaotic and energetic, in a beautiful way of course!

    • @kilianbeyly3934
      @kilianbeyly3934 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed! As Kate is being mentionned again, I would also add "blow away" on the "never for ever" album (such a beautiful one Btw!), and the absolutely insane "fullhouse" on "lionheart". The verses in this last one are rhythmically all over the place!

    • @mollychen5414
      @mollychen5414 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      one of my fav from her discography! but that song is sooo hard to play and sing lol

  • @oliverzwahlen
    @oliverzwahlen ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the trick is to compose the riffs or melodies in a way that people dont notice those times changes immediatly. Like that epic guitar riff by Rutherford comes so logic and naturally that most you cannot imagine it to be in another way.

  • @MandrakeGuy
    @MandrakeGuy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    as someone who really enjoys listening to and creating tracks with this exact concept im very happy you made a video on this kind of thing, chaotic time signatures are awesome!

  • @sheilaross1449
    @sheilaross1449 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was raised on Genesis albums, and I must have listened to Turn it On Again thousands of times by now. But I never noticed before how all over the place the meter was. Very cool.

    • @kendallbrown9301
      @kendallbrown9301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, they make it seem so easy and natural that it's easy to miss how complex it is. keep it dark is another example of that.

  • @jonathanplatt6559
    @jonathanplatt6559 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another Genesis song that changes time signature is Counting Out Time, which is mostly in 4/4 (or is it 2/4?) but occasionally switches to 5/8. And the Daughters song Guest House starts out in 6/8 and changes to 12/16 near the end. (Or maybe you could view it as starting in 6/4 and ending in 12/8.)

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    About switching between 7/8 and 4/4, I happen to live in Israel, and one of the tunes practically anybody of my generation in Israel has heard countless times is an instrumental called "The golden peacock", by Shem-Tov Levy (released in 1981). It's moving between these two meters so seamlessly, you wouldn't notice it if you weren't told. Here's a link to the original recording: th-cam.com/video/syC9fdXXKKo/w-d-xo.html

    • @lim7lim
      @lim7lim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      תודה, באמת לא שמתי לב לשינויי הקצב. כנראה זו עוד סיבה לאהוב את המנגינה המקסימה הזו.

    • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
      @whycantiremainanonymous8091 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lim7lim ובונוס למי ששמים לב במיוחד: בפזמון אותה המנגינה חוזרת על עצמה פעמיים, אבל בפעם השניה אחת התיבות שהייתה בשבע שמיניות בסיבוב הקודם הופכת לארבעה רבעים.

  • @MrTayloreh
    @MrTayloreh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Turn It On Again is a great example of Genesis not forgetting their 70's roots.

  • @andrewhawkins6754
    @andrewhawkins6754 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I think of wacky time signature changes, I think of the opening piano part of Firth of Fifth by Genesis, but Turn It On Again is that to 11.

  • @cakemartyr5794
    @cakemartyr5794 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent video again, thanks!
    South Side of the Sky by Yes from the Fragile album has a number of different time signatures.
    Also, the Eagles' The Last Resort from the classic Hotel California album has a time signature change at the end of each verse.
    Firth of Fifth by Genesis has four time signatures in the piano intro solo. And Pink Floyd's Have a Cigar has four time signatures.

  • @thorsonwelles6688
    @thorsonwelles6688 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lots of great Nine Inch Nails examples for this topic. March of the Pigs is largely a loop of 3 bars of 7/8 and 1 bar of 4/4, The Becoming is alternating bars of 7/4 and 6/4, and Just Like You Imagined is either alternating bars of 4/4 and 6/4 or 4/4 and 12/8 depending on how you hear it.

  • @saabeilin
    @saabeilin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blackbird and Four Sticks were the first two pieces I was thinking just reading this video title!

  • @BruceEEvans1
    @BruceEEvans1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a member of the Barbershop Harmony Society. In 1995 I wrote barbershop arrangements of common hymns. Surely I had to include Doxology. But when I looked up the written music in multiple hymnals, I found many ideas on what the meter(s) should be. Finally, I just sang it the way I remembered it and transcribed that. I also asked a dozen or so other people to sing it the way they did in their church. It was almost 100% agreement with what I had written.
    2/4 Praise God | 3/4 from whom all | 2/4 blessings | 3/4 flow
    3/4 Praise him all | 2/4 creatures | 2/4 here be- | 3/4 low
    2/4 Praise him | 3/4 above ye | 2/4 heav'n - ly | 3/4 host
    3/4 Praise father | 2/4 son and | 2/4 holy | 4/4 ghost

    • @chrishillery
      @chrishillery ปีที่แล้ว

      Not quite the meter we sang it growing up, but yeah, that one always stuck out as being really off-kilter.

  • @Irys1997
    @Irys1997 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You really are putting out great content this year, I recommend you to everyone I talk to about music!

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you!!

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DavidBennettPiano I agree David! You are putting up some great stuff. I watch and study all of your videos and I've learned some interesting things.

  • @anthonypazo1872
    @anthonypazo1872 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favourite example of mixed meter is "Freewill" by Rush. Two bars of 4/4 to start, then 6/4, 7/4, 6/4, 4/4, etc.

    • @jaker2201
      @jaker2201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David could do a whole video with Rush. Genesis too.

  • @davidluke7996
    @davidluke7996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favorite Rush songs is "Circumstances," which jumps all over the place every few measures. It has (at least) measures of 3/8, 7/8, 2/4, 3/4, 4/4, and 5/4.

    • @michaelmeyer2725
      @michaelmeyer2725 ปีที่แล้ว

      Subdivisions moves between 7/8, 4/4 and 3/4.

  • @joemmac
    @joemmac ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh yeah... Genesis is full of this kind of temporal goodness. Another artist you can check out of Sufjan Stevens. He plays loose with time too.

    • @DavidBennettPiano
      @DavidBennettPiano  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love Sufjan!!

    • @MaydupNem
      @MaydupNem 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DavidBennettPianoGoogle translate has decided that "I love Sufjan" translates to "and they hunt Sufjan"

  • @ibalrog
    @ibalrog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First thing that comes to mind when I think of changing time signatures is I Love Rock 'n' Roll. I think part of the charm of the song is how it does so in such an organic and believable way.

  • @mattiasolofsson32
    @mattiasolofsson32 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pretty much anything by Dream Theater, but especially The Dance of Eternity.

    • @Kumquat_Lord
      @Kumquat_Lord ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how even their more "normal" sounding songs are ridiculous when you listen carefully, like A New Beginning and Bridges in the Sky

  • @dalemartell8639
    @dalemartell8639 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How about every Rush song.😀

    • @ctbadger
      @ctbadger ปีที่แล้ว

      And the fact the pull it off so smoothly is remarkable.

  • @N_Skoronski
    @N_Skoronski ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Count of Tuscany by Dream Theater has some really smart meter changes.
    There's one verse which lyrically implies something is off, disconcerting. The meter reflects this by being in 9/8 as opposed to 4/4, so it sounds a bit strange. The next verse also starts in 9/8, but as the lyrics go from "this is strange" to "this is terrifying", the meter then goes to 4/4, which now sounds too fast by contrast.
    There are metric changes through the majority of the song, too, so this is just one example

    • @ArcherWillows
      @ArcherWillows ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Count of Tuscany appreciation is appreciated

  • @levif5501
    @levif5501 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    dream theatre the kings of multi meter

  • @enkiitu
    @enkiitu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY, Genesis makes a long overdue appearance!!

  • @dearlloyd
    @dearlloyd หลายเดือนก่อน

    The chorus of “Say a Little Prayer” by Aretha is in 4/4 with a bar of 3/4 every 3rd measure. The verse progression is in 4/4 with a bar of 2/4 in the middle. Super unique sound.

  • @johnwallace2319
    @johnwallace2319 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the fact that George Martin was learned enough to understand Lennon and not tell him to dumb it down, is what makes him a gem.

  • @benyoung2014
    @benyoung2014 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An underrated pro at this is Tori Amos - God and Spark are my favourite of her’s

  • @danielf3623
    @danielf3623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how "Whipping Post" by the Allman Brothers switches between 11/8 and 12/8 to heighten and release tension.

    • @fenderbass0
      @fenderbass0 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically that’s true but I don’t think of it is as a meter change so much as dropping one eighth note during the turnaround of the main riff. It does heighten the excitement for sure.

  • @Razalhague
    @Razalhague ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I once wrote a totally wild and exotic piece that switched between 3/4 and 6/8. 🙂

  • @jimw6659
    @jimw6659 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dance On a Volcano would also have been good. More Genesis and Collins recognition please 😊

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Down And Out" as well

    • @oliverzwahlen
      @oliverzwahlen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or the amazing piano intro of firth of fifth.

  • @danayang7712
    @danayang7712 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're solving so many mysteries for me and I feel relieved! 🤩

  • @LukasBolini
    @LukasBolini ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can think of: Piledriver Waltz, by Arctic Monkeys (verses in 6/4, chorus in 9/8); Animals, by Muse (5/4 throughout the song, 3 bars of 5/4 followed by one of 6/4 in the solo); Saviour, by George Ezra (classic 4/4 with occasional 2/4 bars); Forgiveness, by Rina Sawayama (mostly 6/8, bridge in 4/4), and I'm pretty sure Video Games, by Lana del Rey, is either in 6/4 with some 4/4 bars, or 4/4 with some 2/4 bars (the chorus I know for sure is in 4/4)

    • @syphaxafricanus
      @syphaxafricanus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Star Treatment by Arctic Monkeys as well.

    • @doctormojo
      @doctormojo ปีที่แล้ว

      I played Animals as a drummer. Cool tune! Got to remember to hit those extra beats in the guitar solo.

    • @Tf2andnothingelse
      @Tf2andnothingelse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isn't the chorus of Piledriver Waltz in 6/8? Also whenever they're sitting on the E chord they're in 4/4.

    • @elizaindisguise
      @elizaindisguise ปีที่แล้ว

      Came here to say Piledriver! That songs changes time signature so often I love it. And yup to Star Treatment too. It’s works wonderfully

  • @guilhermetavares1975
    @guilhermetavares1975 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great topic, David, thank you! I would add that most of the time it seems that these metric changes came from irregular melodies, so we don't need to count, only to sing. And popular music is created mainly by ear, so they don't have to count to write. Prog Rock of the seventies have plenty of examples of this:Yes. Genesis, ELP, Gentle Giant, King Crimson, etc. Cheers! All best wishes!

  • @thomasrinschler6783
    @thomasrinschler6783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I never knew why that moment in One was always so noticeably awesome until you just pointed out the time signature change.

  • @I_dont__know
    @I_dont__know ปีที่แล้ว

    I once played a song called "Snowflakes Dancing" and it's time signature was written as 4/4 + 6/8 and it was alternating bars of both. It was fun once you got the hang of it

  • @tobiasschmuecking4958
    @tobiasschmuecking4958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, David, for another insightful and very helpful video!

  • @mollychen5414
    @mollychen5414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING WUTHERING HEIGHTS! it’s such an interesting song!

  • @n34z3r
    @n34z3r ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. Thank you for sharing. I like your song at the end. Especially the 7/4 to 4/4.

  • @colinbaker3916
    @colinbaker3916 ปีที่แล้ว

    The intro to Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is by Chicago starts with six bars of 4/4, six of 5/8, two of 3/8 or 3/4, then settles into 4/4.
    Many of Chicago’s earliest tracks are full of tempo and metre changes.

  • @drothberg3
    @drothberg3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Beatles “All You Need Is Love.” I never noticed that Blackbird changes meter and I’ve been playing that for years; it’s amazing that one feels so natural, it’s easy to miss.

  • @theirishman8356
    @theirishman8356 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Helped me figure out a few songs that kept throwing me off. I don't play as much as I did in the past. So this was great to listen too. 🎶🎵🎶

  • @migueldsouza9695
    @migueldsouza9695 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating stuff. Thank you.

  • @richarddeese1991
    @richarddeese1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. This is a great example of how songwriting is a process. Like a painting or sculpture, you start off messy, and slowly refine it. If the words don't fit regular meter, you can cut out dead pauses and end up with odd timings. Or you might choose to use an odd or mixed time precisely because it conveys a dislocation that matches the lyrics. Good artists just wind up with better end products than bad artists. But it's the same process. I have a book about the philosophy of mathematics that uses a wonderful metaphor: it's like a restaurant. As customers, we only see the dish brought out to us; we never see the chaos in the kitchen (and probably don't want to!) tavi.

    • @Hamstray
      @Hamstray 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      bad artists wind up with 4/4

  • @tothefinlandstation
    @tothefinlandstation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From Wikipedia:
    "I Say a Little Prayer" b/w "(Theme from) Valley of the Dolls", became one of the most successful double-sided hits of the Rock era. Like several Bacharach compositions, both sides contain passages written in unusual time signatures. The verses of "Prayer" are constructed of two successive measures of 4/4, a measure of 10/4 (using 4/4 + 2/4 + 4/4), and two final measures of 4/4. The chorus is in 11/4 (using 4/4 + 4/4 + 3/4), played by session drummer Gary Chester.

  • @marcusanthonyPOV
    @marcusanthonyPOV ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Or you could just say, "all of prog".

  • @PanikStudios
    @PanikStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite mixed meter song: Possum Kingdom by Toadies. In the verses, alternating sets of 7/4 8/4. While it may be more simply expressed as a skipped beat demonstrating the narrator's unhinged mind, it still piques my rhythmic ear.

  • @elliottherring5021
    @elliottherring5021 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of my favorite examples is Rite of Spring, which literally changes every measure

    • @SpadajSpadaj
      @SpadajSpadaj ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, how about the Barber's Adagio for strings. You don't notice it immediately when listening but when I saw the score...

    • @owenbloomfield1177
      @owenbloomfield1177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rite is an example of additive time rather than divisive time. He isn't dividing a beat as much as adding up collections of beats.

  • @feloeffel3295
    @feloeffel3295 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lesser known example of this is "Murders" by Miracle Musical. This Song is great at hiding the fact that it switches between time signatures frequently. I didn't even realise it until recently.

  • @PianoMatronNeeNee
    @PianoMatronNeeNee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing! I always struggle with my time rhythms when I write a new song. Maybe I shouldn’t focus on it too much. Thanks for sharing.

  • @pluffer241
    @pluffer241 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only Frank Zappa album I had is called The Grand Wazoo. The whole album seems to have changing tempos, unusual or discordant chords and I don't know enough about music to say what else but it sounds different.
    The album grew on me and I still like it almost 50 years later.

  • @composer7325
    @composer7325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, David. I love your analysis. Thank you..

  • @ricktheexplorer
    @ricktheexplorer ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. Thank you for your in depth knowledge.

  • @polyvg
    @polyvg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a musical illiterate, and without any sense of rhythm, I've often been confused why even trying a simple finger-tap so often fails.
    Thanks to this particular video, I can see and hear at least some examples which have helped me understand the music's rhythm can be so much more complex than I have ever realised. Maybe, just sometimes, I have actually followed the music properly but been confused if I have in any way counted the beat?

  • @seadog365
    @seadog365 ปีที่แล้ว

    i only discovered this channel thanks to your appearance on "popmaster" and now I'm really into it!!

  • @matcoffidis1135
    @matcoffidis1135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your song at the end. Really relaxing....👍

    • @matcoffidis1135
      @matcoffidis1135 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always, well maybe sublimely noticed that Money by Pink Floyd threw me off. Then I realized years later it's in 7/4, save for the guitar solo. It's amazing how changing and/or using a different meter can change the whole dynamic of a song...

  • @AJ-wh1tw
    @AJ-wh1tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new thumbnail got me to watch this a second time 😂

  • @marije179
    @marije179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Concert band music has quite a bit of metric modulations. Yesterday I played a concert with the piece Vikings in it, which switches between 6/8, 3/4, 10/8, back to 3/4, then 2/4, 2/2 and finally 4/4. Tricky at first but we have an amazing conductor. Very fun to play and feel!

    • @theleftuprightatsoldierfield
      @theleftuprightatsoldierfield 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in 8th grade my school’s band played the piece “Wild Dance” by Douglas Akey. The piece featured two distinct sections that repeated with variations throughout the whole piece. The first section switched constantly between 4/4 and 5/8 with the occasional 7/8 bar. The second section switched between 7/4, 5/4, and 3/4. It was a tricky piece to play at first but it was also very fun, both due to the constantly changing time signature and the fact that it had a tuba solo

  • @whalechandle4519
    @whalechandle4519 ปีที่แล้ว

    david: one is largely in 3/4, which is an unusual choice for a rock song
    me:
    it
    is
    METAL

  • @michaelmeyer2725
    @michaelmeyer2725 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subdivisions by Rush starts in 7/8, then moves to 4/4, throws in a bar of 3/4, goes back to 4/4, then to 7/8, and just the intro. About 1/3 of the way through the 7/8 goes away and it just alternates between 4/4 and 3/4. Neil Peart was a genius.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s also Tom Sawyer by Rush which switches to 7/4 during the guitar solo and outro, and on a similar note Pink Floyd’s Money is predominately in 7/4 before switching to 4/4 for David Gilmour’s guitar solo

  • @williamblewitt6453
    @williamblewitt6453 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Was suprised to see Ben Folds! So underrated! Great video

  • @xdtricknifer2752
    @xdtricknifer2752 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A song that has multiple time signature changes is Synchronize by Wheel. It changes between 9/4, 7,4, 4/4, and a few other time signatures.

  • @man_e_t5863
    @man_e_t5863 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mr. Beat by King Gizzard is one of my favorites, 3 bars of 7/4 and one of 8/4

    • @deftfkaubgup4669
      @deftfkaubgup4669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      March of the Pigs moment

    • @Lellos_
      @Lellos_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deftfkaubgup4669 exactly lol

  • @mirkovisi6367
    @mirkovisi6367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see a Biffy Clyro landing on your channel! They have great songs with awesome time changes

  • @Aquatarkus96
    @Aquatarkus96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always happy to see you give Genesis' music a look :)

  • @parrisworld7837
    @parrisworld7837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you David

  • @NS-ov6mm
    @NS-ov6mm ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey David!! Another great topic that i enjoy :) Thanks a ton 😊 and yes John Mayer's "Shouldn't matter but it does " Also change between 3/4 and 4/4 time signature:)

  • @genghis_connie
    @genghis_connie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The National uses this regularly. 'Nobody Else Will Be There' is 4/4 and 6/4. 'I Should Live In Salt' is (I think) 7/8 and 5/8.
    That one has a tricky almost awkward pause (musical hiccup) which makes you feel like you're about to trip on a crack in the sidewalk.

  • @Chico50445
    @Chico50445 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One example I recently noticed is Muse's Unnatural Selection. The intro verse chorus and outtro are all 4/4 but the middle section where the song slows down for a while, it changes to 6/8.

  • @Lorenzo_der_Ritter
    @Lorenzo_der_Ritter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a modern example of a song with mixed meter that even got into the charts is "Walk me Home" by Pink. It changes a lot between 3/4, 2/4 and 4/4

  • @FlowerTwig
    @FlowerTwig 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very interesting example of mixed meter is diorama by IRyS.
    It starts in 15/8 for the intro and the first verse, then switches to 4/4 for the pre-chorus and chorus. The instrumental section before the second verse is in 7/4 and the verse itself is, once again in 15/8. Repeat of the pre-chorus and chorus in 4/4, instrumental part in 7/4 and then comes the bridge. It starts in 7/4 as a continuation from the instrumental part but halfway through, it switches to alternating between 5/4 and 6/4 before returning to 4/4 for the last chorus and then the outro is in 7/4 and switches back to 15/8 again, right at the end.
    It's one of my favourite mixed meter songs 'cause I could not, for the life of me, wrap my head aroumd the 15/8 when I first heard it due to the tempo off the song. But now that I've figured it out it sounds so good. I wish more songs were written in 15/8 tbh

  • @scootaymildo1070
    @scootaymildo1070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black Midi are pretty wild with their time signatures. Drummer is an absolute beast too!

  • @EnderStine
    @EnderStine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kinda like how marx's theme in kirby is always shifting for a more chaotic tone kinda like marx in kirby

  • @samd505
    @samd505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whole time I was watching I was waiting for Tool's Schism to be mentioned. I mean its possibly the song with the most time signature changes while still being a coherent and fantastic song

  • @Dawsen2299
    @Dawsen2299 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some other songs that change time signature:
    1. CryptoSanta - Lemon Demon (this is the hardest one to figure out so i might be wrong here)
    Has a short 6/4 intro. Launches into 5/4 then goes to 4/4. Goes back to 5/4 then goes 6/4 and then back to 5/4 for a bit and then to 4/4 again for the rest of the song
    2. Cotard's Solution (Anatta, Dukkha, Anicca) - Will Wood and the Tapeworms
    It has an intro in 3/4 and then switches to 4/4 for the rest of the song
    3. Dr. Sunshine Is Dead - Will Wood and the Tapeworms
    About halfway through the song it switches from 4/4 to 5/4 for a brief section
    4. Suburbia Overture / Greetings from Mary Bell Township! / (Vampire) Culture / Love Me, Normally - Will Wood
    Starts in 6/8 and goes to 4/4 and then goes back to 6/8 for a bit to build up to the next section then he rest is in 4/4 except for a section thats like 6 seconds.
    5. Old Friend - Mitski
    Starts in 4/4 then does 1 bar of 5/4 leading into the chorus. The chorus is in 3/4 with every fourth bar being in 2/4. Post Chorus instrumental in 4/4 and then repeats.
    6. Goodbye - Bo Burnham
    Basically the entire song is in 4/4 except for the "look whos inside again" at the end that is in 3/4
    7. Welcome to The Internet - Bo Burnham
    Main part in 4/4. Slow part in 3/4 then goes back to 4/4 for the last part
    8. Take Me to Church - Hozier
    Switches between 6/8 and 4/4 a bunch

  • @actuallythepie
    @actuallythepie ปีที่แล้ว

    was definitely expecting to see "sail to the moon" by radiohead here lmao
    great video as always!

  • @wadesummers4102
    @wadesummers4102 ปีที่แล้ว

    You made my day! Used a Biffy Clyro song as an example!