I mean, I will say this: artists, or anyone really, should never have to give their work away for free. It’s definitely up to them, or in some cases the people they’ve designated to make said decisions. You could compare it to people who want photographers to work for free for promotion, or graphic designers to design your website for free for promotion. If they’re putting, or have put, the work in, why shouldn’t they get paid? I hear what you’re saying, but that’s not our decision to make. It’s too bad they didn’t allow it to stay for educational purposes.
That sounds like the choice of the artist, meaning artists who sign onto labels agree to their terms, knowingly or unknowingly. It is why more and more artists are choosing to either lawyer up before signing, or not signing at all. I’ve seen people use clips of other people’s professional footage in their own videos, with no credit due. I didn’t think that was okay either, mostly because the original creator, and owner of the footage, made it clear they didn’t think it was okay. I’m not sure if your perception of fair use is the legal perception or not, but it certainly wasn’t perceived as fair by the owner of the clip. I agree that it would have been “nice” to allow him to use the clips for educational purposes, but again, not our choice to make. I’m not telling anyone they have to agree, just presenting another view of the situation.
@@drdefecation technically that's not correct. When you sign a record contract, the label owns the Masters of any music you make, you still own the copyright to the song. That's why if you want to cover a song you go through the songwriter, not the label. However, on youtube, the label many times falsely marks a cover or such as the recording they own, which would be infringement.
Brilliant fine gent, just brilliant. Someone had to pick up on that bit. So much hope gets instilled in my veins when I see that it wasn't just you sir, and these two bright individuals who responded before me, but also... over 620 other greatly educated folks who stopped to give you a well-deserved "thumbs up". Bravo. Oh, and, me? No, I'm not including myself into such an outstanding committee. I just happened to pass by and noticed that someone commented on that only thing I happened to learn in my life ;-) May you all have a great day, and a Happy New Year!
@@SANDSCORCHER Don't worry m'friend, nobody was born knowing anything. I'm going to put it in simple words, but please don't take this as condescending by no means whatsoever, as it is not my intention at all. If you listen to any waltz, and to name one that you can probably remember easily: The Swan Lake, you'll notice that you can hear it in your head at the same time that you can count 1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2 3 :-) If it gets complicated, and trust me, at first it has to get complicated unless you're a super genius, then just look up for some waltz here on TH-cam and you'll see how easily you can follow the signature. It gets better, and funnier. Some famous pop songs have been written altogether in the signature waltz time signature! (pun intended... a bad one... but oh well haha) To name a few... most Bon Jovi ballads, like "This Ain't a Love Song", well that's a waltz, or the super famous "Always", also a waltz :-) Hope it helped, and have nice day!
Many thanks Hans 🙂 You Sir are a gent and a patient one at that. If only more people on TH-cam took the time to be more cordial. And do not worry. Your advice was taken entirely as intended and there wasn't even a shred of condescension anywhere. 🙂👍🏻 Looks like I've got some homework to do now 😀😁😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hunter, some people can feel music and whatever instrument they play (guitar, piano, or trumpet), they can play it, without the written score. They have that gift. Some want that gift, yet can't improvise. Then there are others that don't care about learning to play, but only want to enjoy listening and enjoying OTHERS hard gifts and hard work. I hope I didn't misunderstand your words, my friend. What instrument(s) do you play? Can you play without sheet music too !
The 11 is right but it’s actually 3 bars of 4/8 then 2/8 making 14/8 I.e. 7/4 then 2 more bars of 4/8 which is just 4/4. Add 7/4 to 4/4 and you get 11/4 or if you like pointlessly large numbers 22/8 however 11/8 doesn’t match up with the song.
Sam Wise yeah generally it can be random and is mostly chosen for ease of performance. No conductor or band leader wants to conduct at 320bpm or something like that. But some meters are different. For instance 6/8 has a triplet feel over 4 but 6/4 is any number smaller than 6 + the remainder to make 6 or just 6 quarter note beats. One friend of mine says that everything in 6/8 is in 4 but 6/4 and 3/4 are not 4/4. While 3/4 on the surface is 6/8, the feel is very different. The waltz doesn’t have the same swung feel that 6/8 jazz might have. But once you get out of those examples they are pretty much up to the composer’s discretion.
@@samwise2588 No it's not... It's the value of the note that the time signature is adding ie. 4/4 is 4 quarter notes or 4th notes. It should only be in powers of 2 because those are the only kinds of notes that there are, though technically if you wanted to, you could choose ANY number for the denominator. You just take a bar of 4:4 and divide it into that given number and multiply it by the top number. But, nobody really does this as its not very useful in music.
I was SOOO hoping you would bring up Livin' on a Prayer when I clicked on this, so when you did I got so excited. That 3/4 bar with the quarter note triplet into the key change is one of my favorite moments in any rock song.
Haha i see I'm not the only one who loves David Bennett videos packed with so much you can't get it all in one pass. Replay cuz you know he left you with your jaw open 'wha was that?' And you gotta make sure it all sticks so the lights keep turning on as you walk into each room of the mansion David guides you through.. He's so awesome. Seriously think Patreon, right???? Haha I think that's going to be quite the blast... I really do love David Benett music videos. The BEST... He's literally truly a blessing. Indeed... There are no words. Only music... Haha Have you heard The Cure's 'Fascination Street' @David Bennett Piano? I'm mesmerized by it... What else is like this? Do you know?
Hey man, awesome video. At 4:30, I would argue that “I Love Rock and Roll” actually ends with a line of 3/4 and then the final guitar chord lands on “1” of the final measure where the word “me” is sung.
I'm no expert when it comes to music, but imo that 3/4 ts in I love rock n roll is seemingly unnoticeable because it sounds like the "missing" fourth beat falls in to the first beat of the next measure... Just my opinion... If you don't agree with me, it's ok.
Don't let that ever stop you, not reading sheet music. But do look at the bars while counting. Forget about the notes themselves and just count the bars. Breaking up repetition with a odd timed bar is essential if you ask me. The cadence would get boring otherwise.
I love how we bring up the Beatles and completely gloss over the weirdness that happens in Here Comes the Sun... also I can name quite a few band tunes that really skip around with time signatures
That is sooooo creepy. I was playing all you need is love today on the piano and noticed that 3/4 beat and wondered why it's there and later I got this video recommended
What makes Latin music so fascinating is these type of rhythmic shifts. Some Latin styles have just the bass player jumping a beat ahead of everybody else, which creates an exciting tension within the song.
Competent dancers and choreographers should take the odd count and run with it, make an effect out of it. I've met the less competent ones who spend their careers "trying" to count, too...
Video popped up at random in my recommended feed. Watched it. Very good and informative. Greatly appreciated how you DIDN’T beg viewers to like & subscribe, like so many tedious people - but because your content is good, I just did 😊
The thing I have always wondered is this....do these artists know what they are doing or just singing what sounds good to them? After all Paul Mac Cartney says he can not even read music or write it I am sure! Others also like Elton John, why do you avoid the obvious question on everyone's mind?
@@SiisKolkytEuroo not true, singers do need to have some sense of musicality even if it's more intuitive than intellectual.
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I'd argue that most non-classical and non-jazz composers (and many jazz composers even) don't really have a deep understanding of theory and are doing this stuff intuitively. Theory is primarily used as a descriptive way to analyze music rather than a prescriptive tool to write music.
SiisKolkytEuroo not really, many songs with complicated compositions have been created without the songwriter really knowing exactly what they were doing
Brilliant analysis, man. And it breaks my heart sometimes when the first thing people do when composing a song is to slap down a rhythm track. You could be missing out on so many things like this.
It's a shame how the the content id system is so broken that the music has to be so crude. Hope it gets better man. Your videos are amazing and incredibly well made. Keep it up 👍👍
This is absolutely mind-blowing! In ALL of this songs I always knew there was something peculiar. I just couldn't exactly identify what. Now it all make sense. Thank you.
You know what I really love about your videos? The fact that you show - unequivocally - that rock-n-roll music isn't (or at least isn't always) just a bunch of kids in somebody's garage, shredding guitars and denting drumheads, but is a fully-fledged musical style produced with full knowledge of the continuum of which it's a part and using deep knowledge of the intricacies of what makes music an effective means of communicating feelings about the human experience. So, thank you.
I always notice these missing beats in many songs especially the old classic ones. It always makes me cringe especially after hearing the song for the first time. But with this thorough analyzation, I can now die in peace.
There is a song by OK Go, in their Oh No album, that is called A Good Idea At The Time that has this in the outro. It is, for the most part, a standard 4/4 rock song, but at the end, as trumpets kick in with the rest of the band, it switches between 4/4 and 3/4, or goes into 7/4. It doesn't feel that noticed because of how the drums are played but the trumpets make it noticeable.
yeah but as the songs showed here it's still pretty humane as it's only 4/4 with some bars in 2/4 and 3/4.. this is okay to count.. but after years of listening to tool and being a fan of this band they still confuse me when i try to count their songs.. take a song like schism with 116 bars and 51 signature changes.. the fact that the used time signatures are all odd (5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 10/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8 and 15/8) doesn't make it really that much easier to follow.. for example do i always tend to count the verse as 12/8 while it's actually alternating between a 5/8 and a 7/8 bar.. when i play the song on guitar myself i actually count it 5/8 and 7/8.. it's weird.. but i guess when i listen the song i focus more on the vocal while when i play it i focus soley on the guitar..
The best old school example of this is "Uncle John's Band" by Grateful Dead. Bands who try to cover this song and ignore the 3/4 measures fulfill the prophetic "how does the song go" line to the amusement of their audiences.
For those playing at home: there's Golden Brown by The Stranglers; a song in 3/4 but with a couple of bars of 4/4 in the chorus. It adds a certain something! When I was a kid I used to hum tunes with irregular time signatures and not even realise it! The most famous ones were probably Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (5/4) and Dave Brubeck - Take 5 (5/4). If you've never been aware of the time signatures in these songs hum them and see if you were doing it in 5/5 and totally unaware of it! Here are some of my favourite songs in 7/4 Dave Brubeck - Unsquare Dance Broken Social Scene - 7/4 Shoreline
I would really like to see Golden Brown analysed in this same way in a video. I've always felt the beat as being way more complicated than the waltzy rhythm it seems to start off with. Doesn't Bohemian Rhapsody do something similar?
I agree Golden brown would be a good one to do. I had to check the sheet music for Bohemian Rhapsody it's an insane 4/4, 5/4, and 12/8! I had no idea it was so complicated.
@@Alyric-now I carefully listened to it and Under the bridge is entirely 4/4. The bass part on the chorus (I don't ever feel like I did that day) does not start on the first beat of the bar. It starts after a 1/2 beat rest and this might sound like a change in time signature. Perhaps, this is what you meant?
Thank you David for explaining this, by showing it. I think most people learn things by showing them, WITH explanation, like you do. To add., The 3 4th's time is mostly used when a previous sequence is repeated. This video shows it well ! The "skip" is intentional ( it's meant to be that way). In another way of looking at it, it's to move the music more quickly into the original 4 / 4 time, to repeat the theme.
GREAT VIDEO! Teaching my 5th graders about meter right now, and this video will make a fantastic addition! I especially appreciate the helpful graphics and that the lyrics are all classroom friendly.
wow this is so cool, i was literally listening to heart of glass the other day and wondered about the beat and then youtube reccomended this for me 👀 👀
@@sirjakey2946 I hadn't noticed the rest of the song was different to the bass - as a bass player i always just pay attention to that and i know that it's in 4/4 with every 4th bar in 3/4 lol
Music theory only gets in the way if you fundamentally misunderstand music theory. Music theory is all about looking at what has been done before and the effects it achieves, if you want to achieve those effects music theory is very useful, if you want to go for something different nothing about music theory says you can't or shouldn't unless you're from the classical era
Hi, David Bennet. I greatly appreciate you dissecting these pop/rock songs into their musical notation because I have always been curious about what their musical notation would look like.
@@1337-Nathaniel I also have no sense of rhythm, even with the help of the video, it was hard for me to notice, like I can tell it sounds different when pointed out, but it's not something I'd be able to notice on my own. I am also somewhat tone deaf too.
Heart of Glass is probably the easiest one to spot. If you count along 1 2 3 4 tapping your hand on the 2 and 4 as the snare beat, then you suddenly find that you are tapping in between the snare beats instead because the song missed out a beat.
I always remember keeping thinking I had a bad recording of Heart of Glass and the cd was actually damaged and skipping, until I head the song on VH1 and it 'skipped' there too.....
What a great video -- I always thought I had a good musical ear, even though I have not studied music formally. But I was completely unaware of this. Thanks for teaching me something new. Well done, sir. :)
The Beatles did indeed like to shift meters around. They are the first act I'm aware of that really used this as a compositional device with any frequency. (I wonder if anyone knows the earliest instance of this? I don't mean just among Beatles songs; are there earlier examples of artists who did this frequently?) Your video here refers to songs that "skip a beat" by inserting an odd 3/4 measure. But if I might, may I share what I think is the most rhythmically sophisticated bit of Beatles? In "She Said She Said" the switch to 3/4 is a bit more prolonged, and to great effect. What's so fascinating is how you can't tell the meter shift has happened until you are well into the change. You don't have a proper footing, which gives the song a bit of that psychedelic feeling. The melody/rhythm clearly establishes a rising 8th-note pattern on "I know what it's..." and "Who put all those..." and "things that make me..." and so on. The B section contrasts by having the reverse pattern: 8th notes running downwards. (In fact, there are two sequences of this, totaling 8 notes, on the lyric "You don't understand what I said.") By the time you feel the music is "back to normal," with those same rising four 8th notes, you have already shifted meter. It's so disorienting. Then the rising 8th notes land (seemingly) in a new meter on the words "When I was a BOY..." (Four rising 8th notes plus downbeat.) You feel somehow that you've been had, that, for crying out loud, the pulse must have shifted somewhere, but where? It's such a great rhythmic support to the lyrics. ("You don't understand what I said," and "I know what it's like to be dead," how the wish "I'd never been born." All lyrics if miscommunication, of disconnection.) The pulse gets confused, you feel a bit lost, and it completely represents the lyrics. Your ear "accepts" the new 3/4 meter quite definitely on "everything was right/everything was right." But then, just as you settle into that groove - just when you feel "everything's right" as the lyric says - you get that sudden rip back to 4/4, which isn't subtle at all. "No," the music says, "maybe everything ISN'T right after all." It's as though you drift into some dreamy space and then get slapped back awake. And, again, these aren't just tricks of rhythm for the sake of showing off; they very much support the lyric and "feel" of the song. Great stuff from you, as always. I love the examples you give, and the Bon Jovi one is especially great. I always hear the key change more than I hear the dropped beat, but what a great trick of the trade that one is.
Richard Russell She Said, She Said is certainly a good example. Take a look at my “How The Beatles used Time Signatures” as it includes She Said, She Said!
I believe that switching to 3/4 in the middle of a song adds a more complex feel to it, which can derail what is otherwise a well written song if not done right. Sometimes simplicity is better than complexity. There's some songs you dance to, some songs you ponder, and some songs that just make you change the radio. Do what's right for you-do what's right for the song. Great video.
Once I performed All you need is Love with a guitarist and they didn't get this 3/4 at so in the end we were singing the whole sing in 4/4 and it was driving me nuts.
In a similar vein, I once performed with a guitarist who couldn't understand that Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls was in 6/8, and wanted to do it in 4/4 Safe to say he didn't last long in the band.
The initial upload of this video made me so happy because I always felt stupid for not being able to properly follow the rhythm of "All you need is Love". It just didnt occur to me that the Beatles sneakily just dropped a beat all the time :).
Don’t forget the theme tune from Postman Pat!
Oh yeah! A great example! Perhaps a video is due on appreciating children’s TV tunes... Thomas the tank engine is a spicy one.
David Bennett Piano Yay! Can we have the Simpsons theme in that one too?!
Everybody’s favourite tune in Lydian Dominant! Of course 🙂
POSTman pat, POSTman pat, POSTman pat and his BLACK and white CAT
@@chrisw4997 lol
The Beatles did so much stuff, and they didn’t even know what they were doing 😂
Ya, they just did what sounded good, meanwhile George Martin was pulling his hair out lol
@@JoeWagner21 George Martin loved the challenge.
Eso demuestra el talento innato que poseían The Beatles.
Sip, es talento. Sabían lo que hacían a nivel de oído, pero desconocían la teoría detrás.
Oh they new what they were doing
Record labels massively shoot themselves in the foot by trying to remove this kind of content. This is a free promotional video for their artists!
The way they see it is basically "no money, no honey." "If you want it, pay me for it."
I mean, I will say this: artists, or anyone really, should never have to give their work away for free. It’s definitely up to them, or in some cases the people they’ve designated to make said decisions.
You could compare it to people who want photographers to work for free for promotion, or graphic designers to design your website for free for promotion. If they’re putting, or have put, the work in, why shouldn’t they get paid?
I hear what you’re saying, but that’s not our decision to make. It’s too bad they didn’t allow it to stay for educational purposes.
That sounds like the choice of the artist, meaning artists who sign onto labels agree to their terms, knowingly or unknowingly. It is why more and more artists are choosing to either lawyer up before signing, or not signing at all.
I’ve seen people use clips of other people’s professional footage in their own videos, with no credit due. I didn’t think that was okay either, mostly because the original creator, and owner of the footage, made it clear they didn’t think it was okay.
I’m not sure if your perception of fair use is the legal perception or not, but it certainly wasn’t perceived as fair by the owner of the clip. I agree that it would have been “nice” to allow him to use the clips for educational purposes, but again, not our choice to make. I’m not telling anyone they have to agree, just presenting another view of the situation.
Nyan Cat no I think they understand, it’s just that you’re not understanding what they’re saying
@@drdefecation technically that's not correct. When you sign a record contract, the label owns the Masters of any music you make, you still own the copyright to the song. That's why if you want to cover a song you go through the songwriter, not the label. However, on youtube, the label many times falsely marks a cover or such as the recording they own, which would be infringement.
-Songs that skip a beat-
Songs that have a one-measure waltz
Iconic comment.
Brilliant fine gent, just brilliant. Someone had to pick up on that bit. So much hope gets instilled in my veins when I see that it wasn't just you sir, and these two bright individuals who responded before me, but also... over 620 other greatly educated folks who stopped to give you a well-deserved "thumbs up". Bravo. Oh, and, me? No, I'm not including myself into such an outstanding committee. I just happened to pass by and noticed that someone commented on that only thing I happened to learn in my life ;-) May you all have a great day, and a Happy New Year!
I looked up 'one measure waltz' and am none the wiser ☹️
Sadly I was not cut out to be a musician, in spite of my love for music. 🤦🏻♂️
@@SANDSCORCHER Don't worry m'friend, nobody was born knowing anything. I'm going to put it in simple words, but please don't take this as condescending by no means whatsoever, as it is not my intention at all.
If you listen to any waltz, and to name one that you can probably remember easily: The Swan Lake, you'll notice that you can hear it in your head at the same time that you can count 1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2 3 :-) If it gets complicated, and trust me, at first it has to get complicated unless you're a super genius, then just look up for some waltz here on TH-cam and you'll see how easily you can follow the signature.
It gets better, and funnier.
Some famous pop songs have been written altogether in the signature waltz time signature! (pun intended... a bad one... but oh well haha) To name a few... most Bon Jovi ballads, like "This Ain't a Love Song", well that's a waltz, or the super famous "Always", also a waltz :-)
Hope it helped, and have nice day!
Many thanks Hans 🙂
You Sir are a gent and a patient one at that.
If only more people on TH-cam took the time to be more cordial.
And do not worry. Your advice was taken entirely as intended and there wasn't even a shred of condescension anywhere. 🙂👍🏻
Looks like I've got some homework to do now 😀😁😆👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Songs That Skip a Beat -- The song of my heart when I see a fresh David Bennet Piano vid in my feed.
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Deep analysis of a band who didn’t even know how to read music
That's the origin of analysis and theory, people trying to make sense of things done by people that probably didn't even know what they were doing.
reading music isnt necessary to know + use music theory. im good with theory, chords, modes etc. never do any music reading.
fjf - Not really. Unless u stuck with one method of learning them.
They had no formal training, just like Hendrix, but they developed an understanding and did know some of the formal vocabulary.
Hunter, some people can feel music and whatever instrument they play (guitar, piano, or trumpet), they can play it, without the written score. They have that gift. Some want that gift, yet can't improvise. Then there are others that don't care about learning to play, but only want to enjoy listening and enjoying OTHERS hard gifts and hard work.
I hope I didn't misunderstand your words, my friend. What instrument(s) do you play? Can you play without sheet music too !
Rewatching because I want to keep supporting quality, low-subscriber channels.
Whatwhat3434 thank you!
I wouldn't call this a low subscriber channel, it's just about to top 100k!
Reading this comment when the guy is going to pass 1mln in a week
cool thanks i dont even understand a little bit
The only one I really understood was the last one
What he means is that 4/4 is one two three four and then there is a measure and 3/4 is counted one two three and then there is a measure
That's cuz you're a fucken loser buds
yeah I'm just like what I don't get whats even happening it all sounds the same to me
so if u clap your hands to the beat each bar/measure will have four claps. when it says three four (three quaternotes in a bar) it turns into 3 clapms
And for a lovely example of the opposite, Golden Brown by The Stranglers is in 3/4 with a bar of 4/4 regularly twisting your head around.
YES!!! Thank you for reminding me of that time signature-bashing gem! Always loved that song.
Ah yes, the most psychedelic song ever
I like how you added the countdown of beats, it makes me understand them better as a person who's really noob in music theory.
Outkast's 'Hey Ya' is 5 bars of 4/4 and then a 2/4 turn-around, making some strange 11/8. Surprised the heck out of me.
The 11 is right but it’s actually 3 bars of 4/8 then 2/8 making 14/8 I.e. 7/4 then 2 more bars of 4/8 which is just 4/4. Add 7/4 to 4/4 and you get 11/4 or if you like pointlessly large numbers 22/8 however 11/8 doesn’t match up with the song.
@@oweneckert8474 Everyone knows the denominator is just a random even number :p That is a cleaner way to count it, thanks.
Sam Wise yeah generally it can be random and is mostly chosen for ease of performance. No conductor or band leader wants to conduct at 320bpm or something like that. But some meters are different. For instance 6/8 has a triplet feel over 4 but 6/4 is any number smaller than 6 + the remainder to make 6 or just 6 quarter note beats. One friend of mine says that everything in 6/8 is in 4 but 6/4 and 3/4 are not 4/4. While 3/4 on the surface is 6/8, the feel is very different. The waltz doesn’t have the same swung feel that 6/8 jazz might have. But once you get out of those examples they are pretty much up to the composer’s discretion.
I was waiting the whole video for Hey Ya to be mentioned, it blew my mind when I learned about the sneaky 2/4
@@samwise2588 No it's not... It's the value of the note that the time signature is adding ie. 4/4 is 4 quarter notes or 4th notes. It should only be in powers of 2 because those are the only kinds of notes that there are, though technically if you wanted to, you could choose ANY number for the denominator. You just take a bar of 4:4 and divide it into that given number and multiply it by the top number. But, nobody really does this as its not very useful in music.
I was SOOO hoping you would bring up Livin' on a Prayer when I clicked on this, so when you did I got so excited. That 3/4 bar with the quarter note triplet into the key change is one of my favorite moments in any rock song.
This is the third time I’ve liked this video. How is this possible? Two words: Copyright Strike.
That’s a chicken isn’t it?
gonna rewatch this just cause it was the video that got me into your channel
Thanks for the support!
Me too!
Same!! I truly enjoyed this one the first time and became a Patreon because of it! You’re fantastic!
Me too!
Haha i see I'm not the only one who loves David Bennett videos packed with so much you can't get it all in one pass. Replay cuz you know he left you with your jaw open 'wha was that?' And you gotta make sure it all sticks so the lights keep turning on as you walk into each room of the mansion David guides you through.. He's so awesome. Seriously think Patreon, right???? Haha I think that's going to be quite the blast... I really do love David Benett music videos. The BEST... He's literally truly a blessing. Indeed... There are no words. Only music... Haha Have you heard The Cure's 'Fascination Street' @David Bennett Piano? I'm mesmerized by it... What else is like this? Do you know?
Hey man, awesome video. At 4:30, I would argue that “I Love Rock and Roll” actually ends with a line of 3/4 and then the final guitar chord lands on “1” of the final measure where the word “me” is sung.
Agreed
Yep agreed. As a lot of songs that don’t skip a beat also land on the 1 (to resolve on the home chord) I feel like this is to that effect.
I'm no expert when it comes to music, but imo that 3/4 ts in I love rock n roll is seemingly unnoticeable because it sounds like the "missing" fourth beat falls in to the first beat of the next measure...
Just my opinion... If you don't agree with me, it's ok.
Nah, I agree.
I didn't really miss something.
Yeah and the rest of the last measure is rests anyway
Agree I couldn't even notice what I was "missing"
Thats exactly what was explained in the video, that's why there's a missing beat...
Same
Why am I watching this, I cant even understand sheet music
maybe we'll learn if we watch enough
Same, but I just can’t stop.
Don't let that ever stop you, not reading sheet music. But do look at the bars while counting. Forget about the notes themselves and just count the bars. Breaking up repetition with a odd timed bar is essential if you ask me. The cadence would get boring otherwise.
Sir Royston so what ?
You don't really have to if you understand what a beat is.
Watched this video a couple of times now but it wouldn’t hurt to watch it again.
Ben mckernan that’s the spirit!
random bars of 3/4? do you mean: “Nine in the Afternoon” by Panic! At The Disco?
Literally the first song I thought of
Literally the first thing I thought of. Especially since I love Panic!
That’s what my mind went to, glad I’m not the only one
Yes!
oh my god yeah
I love how we bring up the Beatles and completely gloss over the weirdness that happens in Here Comes the Sun... also I can name quite a few band tunes that really skip around with time signatures
Weirdness in Here Comes the Sun? I'm not aware of any
I’m curious what you mean to, I’m here for a different reason..
That is sooooo creepy. I was playing all you need is love today on the piano and noticed that 3/4 beat and wondered why it's there and later I got this video recommended
What makes Latin music so fascinating is these type of rhythmic shifts. Some Latin styles have just the bass player jumping a beat ahead of everybody else, which creates an exciting tension within the song.
Can you give some examples of this? I'm interested in hearing or translating this kind of changes to another genre, plus I'm mexican haha
dancers and choreographers know how absolutely infuriating this is when trying to count the music and suddenly jumping from a 6 to a 1
Irritation level increases steadily😂
Ya try choreographing a one hour piece in 4s, lol
fjf sjdnx but only four counts would make for choreographing and practicing pieces so difficult akdjdj
Competent dancers and choreographers should take the odd count and run with it, make an effect out of it. I've met the less competent ones who spend their careers "trying" to count, too...
Uldis Barbans i mean yeah it makes a cool effect in the piece but it’s kinda infuriating for practical reasons
I LOVE the Heart of Glass example. It’s the best part of the song.
Note how Joan Jett emphasizes the 4/4 measure as she shouts "Dance with me!"
These videos are absolutely brilliant
Thank you! 😀😀
Video popped up at random in my recommended feed. Watched it. Very good and informative. Greatly appreciated how you DIDN’T beg viewers to like & subscribe, like so many tedious people - but because your content is good, I just did 😊
Why am I here & why am I enjoying this so much
Those of us with palpitations: ah yeah, been there.
The thing I have always wondered is this....do these artists know what they are doing or just singing what sounds good to them? After all Paul Mac Cartney says he can not even read music or write it I am sure!
Others also like Elton John, why do you avoid the obvious question on everyone's mind?
If you're actually composing music you have to know what you're doing. If you're "just" a singer, then not necessarily
@@SiisKolkytEuroo not true, singers do need to have some sense of musicality even if it's more intuitive than intellectual.
I'd argue that most non-classical and non-jazz composers (and many jazz composers even) don't really have a deep understanding of theory and are doing this stuff intuitively. Theory is primarily used as a descriptive way to analyze music rather than a prescriptive tool to write music.
SiisKolkytEuroo not really, many songs with complicated compositions have been created without the songwriter really knowing exactly what they were doing
@@Zodasg yeah they kinda are just good at it so they could get away eith not studying the theory behind it coz they just do it
This was so well presented that I watched it again, just to enjoy how well it was done. Thank You David
Brilliant analysis, man. And it breaks my heart sometimes when the first thing people do when composing a song is to slap down a rhythm track. You could be missing out on so many things like this.
Thank you! I agree!
Videos that skip a song
You 3/4 tricked the system
It's a shame how the the content id system is so broken that the music has to be so crude. Hope it gets better man. Your videos are amazing and incredibly well made. Keep it up 👍👍
Sad and sick that educational uses of songs get censored.
Rush is laughing at all of this.
siguardvolsung and TOOL is saying, "You like that, here...hold my beer"
LOL i just posted about prog rock, this kid has no idea!!
Dream theater is also laughing
King Crimson smirks at you all.
Genesis just Dance on a Volcano
This is absolutely mind-blowing! In ALL of this songs I always knew there was something peculiar. I just couldn't exactly identify what. Now it all make sense. Thank you.
You know what I really love about your videos? The fact that you show - unequivocally - that rock-n-roll music isn't (or at least isn't always) just a bunch of kids in somebody's garage, shredding guitars and denting drumheads, but is a fully-fledged musical style produced with full knowledge of the continuum of which it's a part and using deep knowledge of the intricacies of what makes music an effective means of communicating feelings about the human experience.
So, thank you.
Oh my god I never noticed heart of glass had a skip beat because my brain always translated it into 4/4 when I would hum it
I always notice these missing beats in many songs especially the old classic ones. It always makes me cringe especially after hearing the song for the first time. But with this thorough analyzation, I can now die in peace.
There is a song by OK Go, in their Oh No album, that is called A Good Idea At The Time that has this in the outro. It is, for the most part, a standard 4/4 rock song, but at the end, as trumpets kick in with the rest of the band, it switches between 4/4 and 3/4, or goes into 7/4. It doesn't feel that noticed because of how the drums are played but the trumpets make it noticeable.
The 12 Days of Christmas also does the 3/4 trick I believe
Very interesting! That had never occurred to me
So does Pretty Woman. And it's done very sneaky too.
that's cause it's a folk song! folk songs often have meter switches like that
That one I caught along with Blondie and the Beatles. It's "I say a little prayer" I didn't.
I've always wondered about that lol. 5 golden rings puzzled me
I think The Beatles´one can be easier to understand if you listen phrases of 7/4 and 8/4. Too many 4/4 and 3/4 may result confusing
Grego Gariglio I’ve seen some rare cases of the notation 4+3/4 when describing songs with constantly changing time signature.
5:15 thats what he said
Your videos make me appreciate music more and increase my knowledge. Great work.
Great stuff! Your videos deserve way more attention.
ChemicalXD thanks!
6:55 I KNEW THERE WAS SIMETHING WEIRD WITH THAT SONG
Ahhh, I always knew "Say A Little Prayer" did this but I didn't realize how popular it was!
yeah but as the songs showed here it's still pretty humane as it's only 4/4 with some bars in 2/4 and 3/4.. this is okay to count..
but after years of listening to tool and being a fan of this band they still confuse me when i try to count their songs..
take a song like schism with 116 bars and 51 signature changes.. the fact that the used time signatures are all odd (5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 10/8, 11/8, 12/8, 13/8 and 15/8) doesn't make it really that much easier to follow.. for example do i always tend to count the verse as 12/8 while it's actually alternating between a 5/8 and a 7/8 bar..
when i play the song on guitar myself i actually count it 5/8 and 7/8.. it's weird.. but i guess when i listen the song i focus more on the vocal while when i play it i focus soley on the guitar..
the missed beat in livin on a prayer has ALWAYS fucked with me and i’ve never gotten used to it
I don’t understand one bit of this I’m just here to here the clips of the songs
Hear
Mr. Little, don’t let this guy get you down. Grammar is subjective. You do what feels right to you.
Well done video!
Watching this were well spent 9 minutes. Thanks for making it.
I like your choice of video topics and song studies! Great work, thanks.
Thanks!
The brilliance of your tutorials are in their simplicity. Thank you for a wealth of information. You are a gifted teacher.
Nine In The Afternoon by Panic! at the Disco
The best old school example of this is "Uncle John's Band" by Grateful Dead. Bands who try to cover this song and ignore the 3/4 measures fulfill the prophetic "how does the song go" line to the amusement of their audiences.
For those playing at home: there's Golden Brown by The Stranglers; a song in 3/4 but with a couple of bars of 4/4 in the chorus. It adds a certain something!
When I was a kid I used to hum tunes with irregular time signatures and not even realise it! The most famous ones were probably Lalo Schifrin - Mission Impossible (5/4) and Dave Brubeck - Take 5 (5/4). If you've never been aware of the time signatures in these songs hum them and see if you were doing it in 5/5 and totally unaware of it!
Here are some of my favourite songs in 7/4
Dave Brubeck - Unsquare Dance
Broken Social Scene - 7/4 Shoreline
I would really like to see Golden Brown analysed in this same way in a video.
I've always felt the beat as being way more complicated than the waltzy rhythm it seems to start off with.
Doesn't Bohemian Rhapsody do something similar?
I agree Golden brown would be a good one to do.
I had to check the sheet music for Bohemian Rhapsody it's an insane 4/4, 5/4, and 12/8! I had no idea it was so complicated.
the Chili Peppers' "Under the Bridge" has some strange time signatures, if I remember correctly.
@@Alyric-now I carefully listened to it and Under the bridge is entirely 4/4. The bass part on the chorus (I don't ever feel like I did that day) does not start on the first beat of the bar. It starts after a 1/2 beat rest and this might sound like a change in time signature. Perhaps, this is what you meant?
@@megacrab The title escapes me. If I find it, I'll drop a note. Thanks for trying anyway.
Always heard that lost beat in Heart of Glass but never realized this was what they did.
youtube give this guy a break. he's using the licensed material to teach people really good stuff about theory. PAY THE MAN!
I love this kind of musical discussion. Thank you.
"The Assumption Song" does this too
Thank you David for explaining this, by showing it. I think most people learn things by showing them, WITH explanation, like you do.
To add., The 3 4th's time is mostly used when a previous sequence is repeated. This video shows it well ! The "skip" is intentional ( it's meant to be that way). In another way of looking at it, it's to move the music more quickly into the original 4 / 4 time, to repeat the theme.
My school recently played Living on a Prayer for their marching performance. They took out the 3/4 trip and the key change at the end.
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thanks so much … it just goes to show there are no absolute strict rules for songwriting , though we tend to stick with convention and familiarity
Thanks!
I love your vids
Thank you :)
David Bennett Piano You welcome. Your my hero
GREAT VIDEO! Teaching my 5th graders about meter right now, and this video will make a fantastic addition! I especially appreciate the helpful graphics and that the lyrics are all classroom friendly.
wow this is so cool, i was literally listening to heart of glass the other day and wondered about the beat and then youtube reccomended this for me 👀 👀
How did you become a musical genius?
Beatles’ “Good Morning” also does very interesting time signature things.
Amazing analysis ! Very relevant ! Thanks a bunch !
Could you analyze Radiohead’s Jigsaw falling into place? The song just seems so chaotic but organized at the same time and Idk why
M1cr0Man1a good suggestion. I’ll think about it 👍🏻
I love a video where I learn something and I definitely learnt something!
One of my favorite songs with cool measures is Pink Floyd's "Money". It seems 7/4 but maybe it's a combination of 4/4 and 3/4.
Robert Johnson It’s in 7/4. 👍
@@It.wasnt_me cool
Great baseline!
its both. the bassist plays in one time sig while the rest play in a dif
@@sirjakey2946 I hadn't noticed the rest of the song was different to the bass - as a bass player i always just pay attention to that and i know that it's in 4/4 with every 4th bar in 3/4 lol
Knowledge is fractal. Thank you for introducing me to a branch of knowledge I was totally ignorant about.
you're welcome!
Great Video David! Young Rick Beato!
Thanks!
I love it when rock subverts my expectations. It catches my ear and I want to hear more.
In Soul Love by David Bowie the alternance of 4/4 and 3/4 bars is one of the piece's highlights!
Thanks, congrats from Bahia, Brazil!!!!
Thinking about musical theory actually gets in the way of creativity a lot of the time.
But theory expands your situational awareness regarding what you do. I learned theory in order to expand my creativity.
Music theory only gets in the way if you fundamentally misunderstand music theory. Music theory is all about looking at what has been done before and the effects it achieves, if you want to achieve those effects music theory is very useful, if you want to go for something different nothing about music theory says you can't or shouldn't unless you're from the classical era
It only gets in the way if you learn it but dont know how to use it.
Hi, David Bennet. I greatly appreciate you dissecting these pop/rock songs into their musical notation because I have always been curious about what their musical notation would look like.
Him: these songs skip beats
Me: okay
Also him: *shows evidence*
Me, being tonedeaf or something since *i cant hear the missing beat:* crazy, isn't it?
That's not tonedeaf that's having no sense of rhythm.
@@1337-Nathaniel I also have no sense of rhythm, even with the help of the video, it was hard for me to notice, like I can tell it sounds different when pointed out, but it's not something I'd be able to notice on my own.
I am also somewhat tone deaf too.
Heart of Glass is probably the easiest one to spot. If you count along 1 2 3 4 tapping your hand on the 2 and 4 as the snare beat, then you suddenly find that you are tapping in between the snare beats instead because the song missed out a beat.
@@1337-Nathaniel I don't really know if it's having no sense of rhythm or just that the writer integrates it really well into the song.
That moment when the lightbulb goes off and you say, “okay, THAT’S WHY the last verse of Living on a Prayer was so iconic.” Thanks!
Carry On My Wayward Son, Money, Salisbury Hill, Ghost of Tom Joad, just about any Zappa song.
But not standard rhythm either. Which makes it magnificent
Zappa
I love rock n roll. So come and take your time and dance with me... TONIGHT.
The 3/4 king: Soundgarden. Example: Chris even perform "Imagine" by John Lennon in 3/4 beat
Great summation, man!
And then there is Bohemian Rhapsody with its 5/4 3rd bar
I always remember keeping thinking I had a bad recording of Heart of Glass and the cd was actually damaged and skipping, until I head the song on VH1 and it 'skipped' there too.....
What a great video -- I always thought I had a good musical ear, even though I have not studied music formally. But I was completely unaware of this. Thanks for teaching me something new. Well done, sir. :)
Brilliant video, thanks so much for your amazing information and teaching style
Thank you! 😃😃
The Beatles did indeed like to shift meters around. They are the first act I'm aware of that really used this as a compositional device with any frequency. (I wonder if anyone knows the earliest instance of this? I don't mean just among Beatles songs; are there earlier examples of artists who did this frequently?)
Your video here refers to songs that "skip a beat" by inserting an odd 3/4 measure. But if I might, may I share what I think is the most rhythmically sophisticated bit of Beatles? In "She Said She Said" the switch to 3/4 is a bit more prolonged, and to great effect. What's so fascinating is how you can't tell the meter shift has happened until you are well into the change. You don't have a proper footing, which gives the song a bit of that psychedelic feeling. The melody/rhythm clearly establishes a rising 8th-note pattern on "I know what it's..." and "Who put all those..." and "things that make me..." and so on. The B section contrasts by having the reverse pattern: 8th notes running downwards. (In fact, there are two sequences of this, totaling 8 notes, on the lyric "You don't understand what I said.") By the time you feel the music is "back to normal," with those same rising four 8th notes, you have already shifted meter. It's so disorienting. Then the rising 8th notes land (seemingly) in a new meter on the words "When I was a BOY..." (Four rising 8th notes plus downbeat.) You feel somehow that you've been had, that, for crying out loud, the pulse must have shifted somewhere, but where? It's such a great rhythmic support to the lyrics. ("You don't understand what I said," and "I know what it's like to be dead," how the wish "I'd never been born." All lyrics if miscommunication, of disconnection.) The pulse gets confused, you feel a bit lost, and it completely represents the lyrics. Your ear "accepts" the new 3/4 meter quite definitely on "everything was right/everything was right." But then, just as you settle into that groove - just when you feel "everything's right" as the lyric says - you get that sudden rip back to 4/4, which isn't subtle at all. "No," the music says, "maybe everything ISN'T right after all." It's as though you drift into some dreamy space and then get slapped back awake. And, again, these aren't just tricks of rhythm for the sake of showing off; they very much support the lyric and "feel" of the song.
Great stuff from you, as always. I love the examples you give, and the Bon Jovi one is especially great. I always hear the key change more than I hear the dropped beat, but what a great trick of the trade that one is.
Richard Russell She Said, She Said is certainly a good example. Take a look at my “How The Beatles used Time Signatures” as it includes She Said, She Said!
You have a wonderful gift of explaining and presenting things for dummies.
I would have never worked this out , thanks! second times a winner :D
Franny Dimitri thank you! Glad it helped
‘Wuthering Heights’ by Kate Bush
The chorus goes from 4/4 to 3/4 to 2/4 to 3/4 back to 4/4 for the verse
One song that has a lot of different time signatures is "Subdivisions" by Rush. It starts with 7/8, goes to 8/8 for the verse and 6/8 for the chorus.
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Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos. I learn something every time I tune in.
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I believe that switching to 3/4 in the middle of a song adds a more complex feel to it, which can derail what is otherwise a well written song if not done right. Sometimes simplicity is better than complexity. There's some songs you dance to, some songs you ponder, and some songs that just make you change the radio. Do what's right for you-do what's right for the song. Great video.
Once I performed All you need is Love with a guitarist and they didn't get this 3/4 at so in the end we were singing the whole sing in 4/4 and it was driving me nuts.
In a similar vein, I once performed with a guitarist who couldn't understand that Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls was in 6/8, and wanted to do it in 4/4
Safe to say he didn't last long in the band.
The initial upload of this video made me so happy because I always felt stupid for not being able to properly follow the rhythm of "All you need is Love". It just didnt occur to me that the Beatles sneakily just dropped a beat all the time :).
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Im so bad I dont feel like im missing a beat... for me everything sounds the same😅😅
Try counting