I own a cx5 for 2 yrs now, no regrets only more love! The 2 others looks old now but the cx5 still shine. 7.1L/100km on the highway around 10 in the city for a 8.5L/100km combined. The heavy right foot is never easy on gas when you are having fun driving in those 3. Cargo space and gas mileage aren't always deal breakers. But looks and feel never gets old!
Let's settle this: CR-V makes more sense for a compact SUV. RAV-4 is just a vehicle, if you want to play safe. CX-5 keep you happy and healthy by putting a big smill in your face, and that help you live longer. They all good SUVs,but I will go with the CX-5 because life is too short, you have to enjoy it.
CAM AUTO The Toyota and Honda are the most expensive as they are usually in this economy segment. The Equinox 1.5t AWD is $7,000 less than a CR-V 1.5t AWD with that much cash on the hood at the time of purchase no psuedo residual or resale value will catch.
Sorry for you. Anyone can build a car on one of these companies websites...Go to Chevy and build a car fully loaded with every single package....hope you don't want a sunroof
@light house I drove the optimum model of the 2018 model and that was quiet. Also they made a huge fuzz about how they improved the noise levels with all the new padding. THere is a video about it too. Anyhow, people should test drive and find out for themselfs. Cars are personal though, so I agree , buy what you like :),
I like the Mazda's a great bit. I just wish they'd do something with the infotainment knob situation. In my opinion, it's way more dangerous than a touch screen.
@@keisi1574honestly i love the knob. I really disliked the Hyundai screen i had on a 2020 elantra i had as a rental for like 3 weeks. It seemed laggy and far away.
I'll take a RAV 4 over all of them. Honda turbo and CVT have some known issues especially in a heavy platform. The Mazda is showing signs of tranny slippage and gear hunting its also too cramped. As time goes on the motors are becoming suspect because of their sky high compression. On the other hand a Rav SE can out handle both with ease. As for AWD hands down the Rav as its the only one that can go 50/50 front to back with its lock up and Toy dependability. Now comes the aftermarket support. You can lift a Rav 2.5 inches for 400 bucks without disturbing the handling. The list goes on. Toys are made to customize without braking the bank. I wouldn't buy a new Rav with the 8spd until they work out some issues but they still offer the bomb proof 6spd. I buy mechanical's first the rest is just fluff.
Also the Honda takes premium gas unless you want to see power drop thru the floor. Buying any vehicle is a dice roll but I'd buy the Toy and make it the way I want and lease the others.
Eve Shaju pay the premium for their soul red. Its really an expensive paint but your car looks like a ruby in the sun. The soul red along with the metallic gray arnt normal paints. Look it up.
I bought mine 2 years old and hunted for the red one, perfect condition, with 42K miles on it, for about $20K in Aug. 2016 in Temecula, CA. Touring, back up camera and blind spot monitoring. No AWD (gets worse gas mileage so went with FWD).
What's not to love about the Toyota RAV4 XLE AWD 2019, it's the best car ever. Nothing can compare! Great on gas, comfortable, and many precautions for crashes which is the lead causes for injury and death. This car handles mountain roads where we live so well, and highway driving. So why not have something that gives you more security. Love everything it has to give, and more. ❤️Just sharing
@light house yes I would, a car have to be a complete package for me, it must look good inside and out, it must have good driving dynamic and it must be reliable.
Simply cx-5 is the winner in my book.. the design, they go conventional with the 6 speed automatic and a hell of a drive, love it although I ended up purchasing the CX-3 living in NYC, space is everything still fun both ways.
Love my '18 CR-V LX ! I purchased it 6 months ago for $23594 (pretax) near Cincinnati Ohio. Dealer gave me a great deal because no one wanted a black LX AWD and it had sat there for nearly 3 months. I am so happy I did not get the turbo due to the oil/gas mix problems going on with that engine. Great handling, I personally love the CVT, cavernous back seat, excellent storage for the size, and excellent gas mileage. Feels like the power is always right there. Seats are very comfortable. I just took a 117 mile round trip and got 42 mpg down and 38 mpg overall for the round trip! This was 90% highway with some rush hour crawling. No fancy semi autonomous gadgets on the LX and thats why I love it. Simplicity at its best. I am a 40 year old male with no kids and may not fit the stereotypical group for this car but I really do love it so far. I highly recommend and make sure you break it in as stated in the manual. First 600 miles no speeds over 70, no hard acceleration, no hard braking. My gas mileage improved tremendously doing it and the car just seemed to come together for lack of a better word.
My 2016 has the 2.4 and I love that and the cvt also. It's just smooth and composed. People don't like them because they're not used to them, but CVT'S are designed to stay in the ideal Rev range, so you always get the best mpg at any speed
CVT have problems, if you like driving with rubber bands, cvt is for, I love my Toyota 2014.5xle, w leather, roof and nav, no cvt, just a great car with plenty of cargo room, holds more cargo yhrn most SUV, PAID 13K LAST YEAR, 28000MI. The 2.5 4cyl is very peppy!
David Todd I have an 18 LX also. I’m 42. I like the simplicity of it myself. It’s less to go wrong. I like the cvt too. I think that as long as you take care of it and not beat it, along with stopping completely before shifting gears, then it should be fine long term. I don’t think the cvt feels rubber bandy at all in the CRV. I test drove the RAV4 too, but liked the CRV better. They’re both nice. I like Toyota and Honda, but this time I went with Honda. 🤷♀️
Mazda all the way. I am a senior citizen and I have one. I wanted to sit higher and I love the style. It also fits my friends when going out and the cargo space fits all our shopping. Thanks for the video
Such a good video to watch. This proves my months of research before buying CRV was not a waste. Most videos only said CRV won just because of the cargo space. This compares the figures. CRV brings comfort, quietness along with fuel efficiency, acceleration and sudden break.
I leased a 2017 CRV EXL in March of last year. Thus far it has been totally reliable, comfortable, reasonably quiet (a different tread pattern on the tires would help road noise), controls are intuitive and work well, acceleration from a stop light and in passing are good considering the small displacement of the engine, braking is excellent, the emergency braking, lane keeping assist and adaptive cruise control are excellent. I really like the car but I want to see if Honda will bring a hybrid crv to market before my lease expires. Overall fuel mileage is 28,7 with a high of 35 MPG at a steady 65 MPH on a trip over to Bend, Oregon. Most of my driving is in town it it still has acceptable fuel economy. I drove both the RAV4 and the CX5, along with the Ford Escape, Equinox, Forester, Volkswagen Tiguan and the Honda with all the room inside, comfort and fuel economy was the best bang for the buck.
Tim Strom I'm in Bend! 👋. Looking to buy either a CRV or RAV - I test drove a Jeep Cherokee trail hawk yesterday and looooved it but had to keep reminding myself, that I want the best mpg I can find!
I have a 2018 rav and i can tell you its firm on the road, good on gas and very reliable. I also have a 2011 Toyota Harrier hybrid and i can tell you its one of my favorites suv.
If you want something that looks "good" and that's your priority (and not CUV advantages) then you buy a coupe or a nice sedan. Otherwise it's simply stupid
@Sergey Bebenin, stay on topic, this review is about the Rave4, CRV and the CX-5. My choice was the CX5 and that would leave you with the CRV or the RAV4. I don't know why you're butt hurt about my choice?
@@eddiet4708 Huh? Learn to comprehend sentences first... Because I was right on topic that you initiated. I couldn't care what you purchased, your logic just doesn't make sense
I drove the CRV and CX5. Once you get inside the CX5 I don't see how you can ever leave it. It's beautiful, quiet and stylish which let's be honest the CRV is a "mini van" and not appealing for someone looking for a bit of luxurious edge in this crowded market. I installed a hitch and purchased a cargo carrier for under $300 and now have more cargo capacity than all of them!
Mazda CX5 folks wins it hands down.I have had the pleasure to drive all those cars and the Hyundai Tucson and the Kia Sportage and in the end i put my money where my mouth is,all very good cars but the Mazda is outstanding.
I held out like you recommended and got a great deal on the closeout 18' Rav4. In addition to that, I don't have to worry about all the oil dilution problems of the Honda CRV! Thanks guys!
If you are buying a suv for the most space, you’d be better off buying a large suv or minivan. Of these three midsize SUV’s, the Mazda is certainly my favorite. The smaller capacity is unfortunate, but the car wins in so many categories it’s much more worth buying in my opinion.
My 2014 CX-5 gets terrific freeway mileage, as I often drive from San Diego to Riverside. I get 33-37 mpg on those drives, if there isn't much traffic out. AMAZING. This crossover is frisky and accelerates nicely - as the freeway entrances I have to use in Corona, Menifee and Oceanside (where I reside), are often short as heck. I feel like I have 5 car lengths to be up to freeway speed, and believe me, the CX-5 handles that! I got the 2.5L 4-cyl. engine after reading reviews on its get up and go, and am not sorry I did. It also can hold 4 15" tires in the cargo area with the seats up. So great fuel economy, fun to drive, and no problems in over two years of ownership (bought it used as a 2-year old, like I do most of my vehicles). Another reason I bought this SUV is the crash testing rating was Good on all counts, important with 7 grandkids I haul around at various times. All in all, I love the bright red, and only wish I had the roof racks on Scarlett.
For me, the 2018 Mazda CX5 is my preferred choice and is what l recently bought. No regrets, simply love this vehicle! And, I preferred it to its competitors for the driving experience, ride and comfort - this acknowledging it falls short of the CRV in terms of cargo space, better has mileage and performance!
CVT IS WORST TRANSMISSION, I LOVE MY TOYOTA, QUIET, SND BULLETPROOF, XLE CAMRY IS THE TICKET, I PAID 13000 W 26000 MI, AND I LOVE IT, LEATHER INTERIOR, NO CVT, JUST POETRY IN MOTION, 2014.5 ,got last year, not 1 complaint!
Cx5 all day! 3 plated clutch automatic transmission, hemi dom pistons, ultra high compression, skyactive technology, better suspension ratios, Audi shared AWD system with WSS sensors, brighter LED headlights than Audi, list goes on! Holds better turns then Camaros
I really enjoyed the presentation from three well versed experts. Unfortunately one not small detail was left out. CRV four doors open 90 degrees. I know. I'm on my second CRV. Rav4 and Mazda CX5 both open the front doors about 70 degrees and the back doors even less. Having 90 degrees is helpful to people with some sort of movement limitations, as well as to load/unload baby strollers.
Recently bought a CRV. My second choice was the CX5, while the RAV4 was #3, and would have been perfectly acceptable too. The CX5 styling almost sold me. I just wasn’t convinced a Mazda would hold up like the Honda or the Toyota, and I plan on keeping it for years. The reliability and durability meant more to me in the long run, than the styling, although I think the CRV and RAV4 are attractive cars.
mazda beat out toyota and Honda this year in terms of reliability and build quality!!! Mazda is #6 on consumer reports list of most reliable brands for this year. Honda moved down the list to #13 and toyota moved down to #9. apparently Honda has been experiencing issues with their turbo engines.
Both the CRV and Rav4 offer long term reliability and resale value. The CRV drives way better, though. It feels like a zippier version of the Camry. The Rav4 only makes sense if you are getting the hybrid.
Will Kaufman! Man, I really liked your ways of observing the truth in what people would want to look for in a crossover. That CR-V is the best car that I would want to buy to drive everywhere with my family.
Guys, thanks for a great review. Toyota's handling is non-existent. CX-5 is easily the most fun to drive, such a joy! But if you need a van, get the CRV.
2 years ago I bought A 2017 Toyota RAV4 and loved it. Then a lady driver smashed and totaled my car in January this year. Now I’ve just bought a 2018 Mazda CX5 to see how it compares. So will rewatch this video again.
A very well deserved win for CR-V. No matter how good the CX-5 drives or how better the resale value of RAV-4 is, in real world, everything considered, that CR-V is just a better overall vehicle until the all new Rav-4 comes out.
That loyaty says a lot. I just bought my first one in 2016 and have had no problems so far. Fun to drive too. I used to buy nothing but Toyora Camry models through the years, but now prefer my 2016.5 FWD Touring CX5.
I purchased my new SUV a month ago and I have included all 3 SUV's in my test drive. The comments in the video pretty much aligned with my test driving experience. Each SUV has its own strength and weakness. I picked the CX5 over the others because of its power train (non-turbo and CVT for reliability concern), best in class interior, exterior, class leading NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) and outstanding driving dynamics (minimum body roll and steering is more connected to the road). Yes, it's not the most fuel efficiency (26 of CX5 vs 29 of CRV for combined mpg) and as roomy as the CRV , but not all SUV buyers need room for a family of 4 or 5. A lot of aging boomers buying SUV for the ease of getting in and out, and as a matter of fact they do make up the bulk of the car buyers nowadays. You cannot go wrong if you select any one out of the three for the right attributes. Yes, the 2019 RAV4 will definitely be vastly improved but I am still not sure about the exterior styling going by what has been released. I have to see it in person.
While I believe Honda and Toyota make great practical cars....they are not in the same league in my opinion as the Mazda when it comes to styling both interior and exterior and driving dynamics. Mazda has spent time ensuring they pay special attention to the driving feel of the car and not just the ability to go from A to b which be honest if that's what you want a Honda fit would be the winner. Owned a 2007 Mazda 3 which was brilliant and now a 19 cx 5 which makes my smile and admire it every time I pass it.
Cx5 is classy looking & fun to drive. The Honda is boring through & through and ours has a very uncomfortable ride for back seat passengers. The Toyota does not make a statement but is dependable. I think I've settled on the Mazda.
i bought the crv awd. 5 seats, 6 month later. im pretty happy, its the most Japanese of all. super smart. hey dont get me wrong i know its a 1.5 turbo and up hill u got to hit the gas hard but i live in the city, 2 weeks tank full economy does it for me. apple play, android play i use waze as my nav. i can even get wifi and watch youtube or movies in my display... and many todays features.
This test was about as useful as lining up a Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger, to see which one holds the most groceries. What these SUVs can do on a track is useless to about 100% of the people who drive them, in mostly straight line suburbia.
Awesome video guys! I have a 2011 Toyota RAV 4 but am looking to upgrade. I love the trunk space and it is great on fuel but I hate that I can feel every bump on the road, it’s a bit loud, and no matter what tires and brakes I upgrade to I still seem to skid when I come to a stop on a rainy day. I came from sports cars before this and am known for being a bit of a speedster. I want it all. Great trunk space as I often pack up and travel with kids and tailgating gear for game day 3 hrs. away but I want great handling and suspension and a comfortable ride. What would you recommend to the mom who wants it all and within a budget?
You don't count the pass seat when calculating space - also MSRP on a new Equinox with comparable equip, power, driving dynamics, mpgs, reliability, resale, etc is certainly not $6k.
Ever heard subaru forester guys? Thats the actual swiss army knife in suv department.... The crv is most people bought and use them strictly on the streets only... Lol
I think its depends on the situation. As for me, i personally choose the cx5 . Because i didnt need that big space like crv for every single day going to work or shopping etc. its stylish , luxury and comfort . Unless i got few kids, always going out for outdoor activity, really in need of huge space. Cx5 is better choice for me 😁 stylish and comfort for my daily basis. And still got lots of space to carry big item.
In 2016 bought a CX-5 after test driving the CR-V which was boring and had a gimmicky instrument panel and I'm not anti-Honda. I have a 2006 Honda Pilot and a 2014 Honda motorcycle plus Honda power equipment. I was certain I would go with the CR-V until I drove it.
The CVT is the killer for me. I've been ruined on them. And I won't even consider a car now if it has one. If they had a better automatic, then it would be a great purchase.
Cx5 for me 2.2 Diesel AWD,,,, as I'm still a hooligan when the wife and the kids aren't in the car... it really is a blast round counrty lanes and handles incredibly well. Also it's got the best ground clearance in its class and thats hanndy when I'm in the woods fishing/camping/dogging. Cant wait for the snow as Ive just fitted some studded Continental snow tyres
Wow everyone talks about the reasons why people would buy these things but we all know the real reason. #1 past experience with the particular brand or brand loyalty as you can see with the honda fanboys. #2 when they are confused or new to Asian vehicles they will pick the safe bet, which is toyota or honda. You cant go wrong buying any of the 3. And there are other good choices out there too. Theres drivers out there for every brand and you can't bash them for their choices. Pick and drive what you like. Your money your choice. If it was free we would take anyone of those.
Gotta debunk #1 bro, I have two hondas, and a honda motorcycle, i went with the cx-5 because it didn't have cvt, and looked great. so i've always been die hard honda, but not when it doesn't make sense for me.
The CRV does everything just a little better. With me previously owning a 2012 CRV and recently upgraded to a 2017 CRV LX AWD the improvements are very real and tangible. On a side note, I really enjoy the 2.4 liter naturally aspirated LX AWD model. My thoughts on the Honda CRV: More power, better handling, Higher gas mileage, Increased space, And even better build quality. Everything feels more substantial with this new refresh. I do like the looks and sporty handling of the Mazda though.
I don't really think build quality is that good on the crv's. Hondas in general have always had a panel gap problem and having bought a cx-5 that's still made in japan....my god the tooling is good, and it puts my civic to shame.
skifree, Owning a few Honda's myself.. I can contest that build quality is fine. (except the questionable build quality of the 2012 Civic) Never had anything break or fall apart on any of my Honda's. I was given a used 89 Honda Accord LX with 204,000 miles and everything still worked. (no oil burning, trans shifted excellent, power switches/gauges perfect) Quality to me would be how long it lasts and durability. I also live 8 blocks from my Valley Honda dealership and they just take me in for service by simply driving into their maintenance drive through garage. Build quality is excellent and Service/Maintenance is exceptional. So having my 2017 CRV LX is like having my cake and eating it. P.S. My 2012 CRV LX AWD was almost flawless for the 5 years of ownership. (parking switch recall being only unscheduled visit) Not trying to be bias..., But I'm intimately informed that Honda has a few descent vehicles in their lineup. I've test drove most of the vehicles. One thing that I don't care for or like is all the tech packages, So I buy the base LX models. Enjoy your Mazda CX-5 and keep in touch if any problems arise. Thanks
Absolutely no problem with what you said, but that isn't build quality, that's reliability. And having owned a honda myself I have no issues with that. build quality in the automotive world refers to the craftsmanship related to it's construction. It's about panel gaps, seal placement, panel alignment (if the doors are crooked for example). dash creaks and rattles. The 2 are not realated, You can have excellent build quality with crappy reliability (take a BMW or a merc). And your honda (and mine) is an example of good reliability but not so good build quality. TLDR is your point is perfectly fine, just your wording gives the wrong meaning that may need to be clarified when others look at it with the other meaning.
Skifree the build quality is fine on my CRV. Panel gaps/refinement or what you see is the view the individual discerning person . Build quality and reliability go hand in hand. My CRV is 1 year old tomorrow and no rattles or squeaks since bought new. I'll give you and example from a Russian video i saw. He had his SUV articulated in the air simulating if you were stuck in a ditch. When he tried to open the doors they were stuck or if open they wouldn't close (body twisted) This was a new cross over mind you. I give props to the engineers who build and designed my vehicle .
But by relating build quality with reliability you run into a situation that are excellently and reliably designed and poorly constructed. the CRV is a fine vechicle that is certainly more reliable than it's luxury german counterparts. But say that it has better build quality than a bmw or a merc or an audi, and people will just question what you are saying. Get up and close with a german car's construction and they are in a world of their own. That's the reasoning for splitting the 2 up. build quality is not how it is engineered/designed, its the execution of the design (whether it be reliable or unreliable) into the practical world. it is perfectly fine if you don't care about panel gaps and fit and finish. A LOT of people don't. But you can't say it has good build quality, as it leads people into thinking it does have better construction quality that it does.
If you care about driving and are not too lazy about basic maintenance, get the CX5 (I think better seating position and interior feel will outweigh the slight cargo capacity disadvantage in real life, most of the time). If driving quality is not a priority, but reliability and practicality are, get the RAV4 (especially considering the possible decrease in price with the new model arriving). Honda is out of question in this one. The only thing it has going for it is the interior, both in terms of size and comfort.
Glad I bought my wife a 2018 CRV the turbo engine is very efficient and the cargo area is impressive for the class its in. Also to everyone whining about the turbo being less reliable are just plain wrong, turbo engines ARE the future. More HP and torque out of a smaller lighter engine its a win win.
I'm a Toyota fan, once getting 500 hundred thousand miles on a 1.8 Corolla, and with that being said; there's a reason why Toyota is "a safe choice" to quote you guys; however, I really feel the new 8 speed transmission Rav 4 will silence a lot of the complaints suggested within this video segment, as well as, I feel that Toyota makes a way better CVT than the competition displayed here. Furthermore, the exterior paint on any Toyota is far better than Honda's, even their Acura line, and I also feel that Toyota takes longer to test their products; thus taking a longer time to release a new, revised version of any of their lines.
Hope you guys still do videos, amazing content and realistic analysts that everyone can understand and make a buyer choice, thank you, please keep making videos!!!
The CVT was a total dealbreaker against the RAV4. Even though the Honda has more power, it doesn’t feel like it with the CVT. It feels so sluggish when pulling away from a stop
Idk if you did, but if you shift into "S" that is the sport mode, it's actually really responsive. Idk why they don't just have a sport button like the rav4, I thought it meant second for a year and a half...
Yea, HONDA went the way of the CVT for its EFFICIENCY but the TRADITIONAL 6,7,8 SPEED TRANSMISSIONS will WIN. Traditional TRANSMISSIONS of today-Most NOT ALL are JUST AS EFFICIENT.
That's the one I would have loved to get, but I tend to keep my cars for several years and the CX5 still rusts way too fast. I just don't understand why the undercarriage of the CX-5 looks after 3 years like the undercarriage of a 10-year old toyota.
CX-5 looks elegant which other two cars don’t have. CRV looks ugly and Honda really needs new designers. Those who buy CX-5 are not looking for cargo space. They want its driving dynamics.
Yeah it looks good and feels fast, but gets stomped in actual driving dynamics (here and in the MT article) and is the worse in terms of SUV practicality. Just get a sport hatch instead. www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-vs-2017-mazda-cx-5-comparison-review/
The guy is right about the cargo area, most people don't buy a SUV primarily with just cargo in mind. They look at it like it gives you more ground clearance and it's got the AWD (especially if you live in a wintery state and need a bigger vehicle to handle snow). I think the high end CX5 and Rav4 in 2019 is getting ridiculous with pricing. How many trims do you need Rav4?
I personally still prefer the CR-V... Just wins in the categories that people in this segment are looking for. I'll probably end up with one someday when the Civic sedan doesn't suffice anymore.
I tried all three before...actually all four including the Ford Edge and eventually settling for the CRV. You won't go wrong with any of these great cars.
Does the CRV and Rav4 has spare tire included? Another concern with thoss very low hatch opening is that in the case of rear end collision, repair cost is going to be significantly higher as the hatch is more likely to be damaged
they haven't do the lateral G test. The CX5 is not for the acceleration but for the suspension set up to minimize body roll in traditional SUVs so it should have the best turning. But yea, that chassis from the CX5 is actually very very old. Even older than the Rava actually, it just been refined for since the first gen CX5.... they just keep updating the front looks and interior of the car like the mazda 6 which the chassis are not updated.... yes, it is an 8 years product now.... lol
Yeah the Mazda looks good and feels fast, but gets stomped in actual driving dynamics (here and in the MT article) and is the worse in terms of SUV practicality. Yes, the boring mom-mobile CRV is faster in the slalom too. www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-vs-2017-mazda-cx-5-comparison-review/
US market had transformed Honda. From a company that made those small aesthetically pleasing , simple, affordable, reliable yet fun to drive and practical car into big, complex, chrome dripping boring sedan or cinterblock SUVs. Still appreciate their keep practicality in mind but for the rest...
wasabi9111 the RAV4 is the most reliable here along with the redesigned Chevy Equinox at about 13 repairs per 100 according to Truedelta. Currently the CR-V since it's redesign in 2017 is the worse but they continue to charge top dollar
Nah, shouldn't worry abt Toyota even in its first yr as it is pretty reliable with high resale value you can't go wrong! The exterior styling will be new but most of the integral parts and underpinnings will likely be the true, tried and tested reliable pieces that Toyota will use. Same as with most of their other models that's why they've been known to be a reliable brand coz of this strategy.
Tek z that’s what I’m hoping. This will replace my mother in laws 2004 rav4. It’s been absolutely reliable and she refuses to replace it. But that car is like a tin can with no safety features. I finally convinced her to replace her car but don’t want to be at fault if her new rav4 is unreliable compared to her current rav4.
I'd actually get a used Hyundai or Kia. They're really reliable as of late, but still depreciate off their old reputation. If you use Carfax and KBB right, you can get a three-year-old Tucson or Sportage for about half the cost of a new RAV4.
Toyota always plays it safe, nothing on them that hasn't been through the ringer :) I suggest test driving them all when the new Rav4 is out and see how you fit in them.
I'm not a Mazda fan, more of a Honda girl but the Rav 4 and CRV looks dated and basic and I don't need that much cargo room.. Anyone have any complaints about the Mazda!?!?!?! Thinking about getting one 😊😊TY
He nailed it. If the CVT isn’t a deal breaker, it isn’t a deal breaker. If it is, it is. I was dead set on getting “The CRV” but agreed to drive two others and we chose the CRV, Forrester, CX5. The choice is clear. We had to raise our voices quite a lot on the on ramps with a CVT. The slingshot affect really ruins it for me. The CRV is hard to see out of too. I don’t own a CRV and never will. Forrester was a very close second. I do a own a new “non CVT” and I’m happy with it. Though I really hope they can iron out the transmission in these cars, and get some new Honda designers... I’ll need some more choices in 7-10 years. Side note, I stopped reading the comments after the only dig on CX5 was “more frequent synthetic changes”. lol. I’m so happy I’m at a point in life where I can afford to take care of a brand new car - one extra time every two years. LOL. And that I don’t have to scream at my wife whenever accelerating. Note to all CRV drivers, not all cars are loud. Lastly, we’ve never come close to filling the “limited” cargo space. No kids, just a small dog. It holds enough for all our road trips, grocery, occasional lumber, and camping supplies. Not sure what more I could ask for.
Honda could be the best but my feelings goes to Mazda
I own a cx5 for 2 yrs now, no regrets only more love! The 2 others looks old now but the cx5 still shine. 7.1L/100km on the highway around 10 in the city for a 8.5L/100km combined.
The heavy right foot is never easy on gas when you are having fun driving in those 3.
Cargo space and gas mileage aren't always deal breakers. But looks and feel never gets old!
Let's settle this:
CR-V makes more sense for a compact SUV.
RAV-4 is just a vehicle, if you want to play safe.
CX-5 keep you happy and healthy by putting a big smill in your face, and that help you live longer.
They all good SUVs,but I will go with the CX-5 because life is too short, you have to enjoy it.
CAM AUTO The Toyota and Honda are the most expensive as they are usually in this economy segment. The Equinox 1.5t AWD is $7,000 less than a CR-V 1.5t AWD with that much cash on the hood at the time of purchase no psuedo residual or resale value will catch.
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I probably have to fact check this,but I believe the Chevy is more expensive when is fully loaded.
@@pjay1281 even fully load. Chevy is always cheaper than crv and rav4. Sorry for you.
Well Said Cam!. Agree 100%.
Sorry for you. Anyone can build a car on one of these companies websites...Go to Chevy and build a car fully loaded with every single package....hope you don't want a sunroof
I like a car where sometimes I look back walking away after driving it and have a smile. The Mazda does that.
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CX5 is for the person who had the sporty car, and compromised when their kids were born.
Exactly. I had a 2005 S2000 and a 2000 Civic SI. Sold the S2000 when the kid was born for a CX5.
Or just buy a Mazda 6 wagon!
The drivers CUV.
That'll be me soon. Bye bye STI ;_;
that is exactly what i am looking to do now.. but no kids yet..
The CX-5 hands down. It's often the forgotten brand in everyone's shopping endeavors and it truly deserves to be driven when looking for the next car.
@light house noisy cabin? NOt the new model.
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@light house I drove the optimum model of the 2018 model and that was quiet. Also they made a huge fuzz about how they improved the noise levels with all the new padding. THere is a video about it too.
Anyhow, people should test drive and find out for themselfs. Cars are personal though, so I agree , buy what you like :),
I like the Mazda's a great bit. I just wish they'd do something with the infotainment knob situation. In my opinion, it's way more dangerous than a touch screen.
@@ShooterinOK I disagree. You sound like you've been thunderstruck.
@@keisi1574honestly i love the knob. I really disliked the Hyundai screen i had on a 2020 elantra i had as a rental for like 3 weeks. It seemed laggy and far away.
Cx-5 automatically wins for not having CVT
I'll take a RAV 4 over all of them. Honda turbo and CVT have some known issues especially in a heavy platform. The Mazda is showing signs of tranny slippage and gear hunting its also too cramped. As time goes on the motors are becoming suspect because of their sky high compression. On the other hand a Rav SE can out handle both with ease. As for AWD hands down the Rav as its the only one that can go 50/50 front to back with its lock up and Toy dependability. Now comes the aftermarket support. You can lift a Rav 2.5 inches for 400 bucks without disturbing the handling. The list goes on. Toys are made to customize without braking the bank. I wouldn't buy a new Rav with the 8spd until they work out some issues but they still offer the bomb proof 6spd. I buy mechanical's first the rest is just fluff.
Also the Honda takes premium gas unless you want to see power drop thru the floor. Buying any vehicle is a dice roll but I'd buy the Toy and make it the way I want and lease the others.
I believe the Rav4 also forgoes the CVT and has a 6 speed transmission
No never
@@professorgimsara2180 From a Mechanic since 2007? Yes non CVT wins.
Live simply, travel lightly, look stylish, Mazda CX5 for the win-win!
Not sure on the travel lightly - it's the least efficient in every metric.
Ken Coleman Damn right !
@@anxiousappliance Try replacing the vacuum lines and auxiliaries on a turbo engine when it starts coming of age. The CVT will disintegrate after 80k
@@halflifemasta Rather not.
Better looking one is the Mazda hands down
I got the cx5. It's sheer joy to drive and it's eye candy to boot. I loooove it.
I would like to buy CX5 2018 in this November month. How much did you get it for in your state OTD? my dealer is saying 24,300 in Atlanta OTD
How much did you get it for in your state OTD? my dealer is saying 24,300 in Atlanta OTD
Amaresh M wait. 2019 is out and has a 250hp turbo option
Eve Shaju pay the premium for their soul red. Its really an expensive paint but your car looks like a ruby in the sun. The soul red along with the metallic gray arnt normal paints. Look it up.
I bought mine 2 years old and hunted for the red one, perfect condition, with 42K miles on it, for about $20K in Aug. 2016 in Temecula, CA. Touring, back up camera and blind spot monitoring. No AWD (gets worse gas mileage so went with FWD).
Of 2018, Mazda CX-5 took first place in safety. Volvo, not this time
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What's not to love about the Toyota RAV4 XLE AWD 2019, it's the best car ever. Nothing can compare! Great on gas, comfortable, and many precautions for crashes which is the lead causes for injury and death. This car handles mountain roads where we live so well, and highway driving. So why not have something that gives you more security. Love everything it has to give, and more. ❤️Just sharing
That CX-5 does have a presences on the road whenever you see them, elegance is it game. if i had to have a compact SUV i would go with the Mazda.
Presence**
@@phronesismeister oh thank you I missed that, I'll correct it.
@@deet4895 You're welcome! Just wanted to make sure you were aware
@light house yes I would, a car have to be a complete package for me, it must look good inside and out, it must have good driving dynamic and it must be reliable.
Simply cx-5 is the winner in my book.. the design, they go conventional with the 6 speed automatic and a hell of a drive, love it although I ended up purchasing the CX-3 living in NYC, space is everything still fun both ways.
I might not like the way all Toyotas look but I do respect the car company
Yeah RAV4 is ugly af. On the other hand the CX 5 looks sexy and the CRV looks okay.
Love my '18 CR-V LX ! I purchased it 6 months ago for $23594 (pretax) near Cincinnati Ohio. Dealer gave me a great deal because no one wanted a black LX AWD and it had sat there for nearly 3 months. I am so happy I did not get the turbo due to the oil/gas mix problems going on with that engine.
Great handling, I personally love the CVT, cavernous back seat, excellent storage for the size, and excellent gas mileage. Feels like the power is always right there. Seats are very comfortable. I just took a 117 mile round trip and got 42 mpg down and 38 mpg overall for the round trip! This was 90% highway with some rush hour crawling. No fancy semi autonomous gadgets on the LX and thats why I love it. Simplicity at its best. I am a 40 year old male with no kids and may not fit the stereotypical group for this car but I really do love it so far.
I highly recommend and make sure you break it in as stated in the manual. First 600 miles no speeds over 70, no hard acceleration, no hard braking. My gas mileage improved tremendously doing it and the car just seemed to come together for lack of a better word.
My 2016 has the 2.4 and I love that and the cvt also. It's just smooth and composed. People don't like them because they're not used to them, but CVT'S are designed to stay in the ideal Rev range, so you always get the best mpg at any speed
CVT have problems, if you like driving with rubber bands, cvt is for, I love my Toyota 2014.5xle, w leather, roof and nav, no cvt, just a great car with plenty of cargo room, holds more cargo yhrn most SUV, PAID 13K LAST YEAR, 28000MI. The 2.5 4cyl is very peppy!
David Todd I have an 18 LX also. I’m 42. I like the simplicity of it myself. It’s less to go wrong. I like the cvt too. I think that as long as you take care of it and not beat it, along with stopping completely before shifting gears, then it should be fine long term. I don’t think the cvt feels rubber bandy at all in the CRV. I test drove the RAV4 too, but liked the CRV better. They’re both nice. I like Toyota and Honda, but this time I went with Honda. 🤷♀️
Mazda all the way. I am a senior citizen and I have one. I wanted to sit higher and I love the style. It also fits my friends when going out and the cargo space fits all our shopping. Thanks for the video
My wife is a loyal Honda\Acura buyer but she has a CX-5 so that says a lot about the upcoming of Mazda to me! Long live the CX-5! 😉
I’m one of those room maximizes ,glad I got the RAV4!🎉
Such a good video to watch. This proves my months of research before buying CRV was not a waste. Most videos only said CRV won just because of the cargo space. This compares the figures. CRV brings comfort, quietness along with fuel efficiency, acceleration and sudden break.
But it also brings a CVT. That's an automatic nope
I leased a 2017 CRV EXL in March of last year. Thus far it has been totally reliable, comfortable, reasonably quiet (a different tread pattern on the tires would help road noise), controls are intuitive and work well, acceleration from a stop light and in passing are good considering the small displacement of the engine, braking is excellent, the emergency braking, lane keeping assist and adaptive cruise control are excellent. I really like the car but I want to see if Honda will bring a hybrid crv to market before my lease expires. Overall fuel mileage is 28,7 with a high of 35 MPG at a steady 65 MPH on a trip over to Bend, Oregon. Most of my driving is in town it it still has acceptable fuel economy. I drove both the RAV4 and the CX5, along with the Ford Escape, Equinox, Forester, Volkswagen Tiguan and the Honda with all the room inside, comfort and fuel economy was the best bang for the buck.
Tim Strom I'm in Bend! 👋. Looking to buy either a CRV or RAV - I test drove a Jeep Cherokee trail hawk yesterday and looooved it but had to keep reminding myself, that I want the best mpg I can find!
Yes! Thanks for this video. Mazda Cx5 it is.
I have a 2018 rav and i can tell you its firm on the road, good on gas and very reliable. I also have a 2011 Toyota Harrier hybrid and i can tell you its one of my favorites suv.
I want to drive something that looks good, If I want to haul all my household goods, I'll get a trailer. So, for me?...CX-5.
Don't forget the most frequent syn oil change.
If you want something that looks "good" and that's your priority (and not CUV advantages) then you buy a coupe or a nice sedan. Otherwise it's simply stupid
@Sergey Bebenin, stay on topic, this review is about the Rave4, CRV and the CX-5. My choice was the CX5 and that would leave you with the CRV or the RAV4. I don't know why you're butt hurt about my choice?
@@eddiet4708
Huh? Learn to comprehend sentences first... Because I was right on topic that you initiated. I couldn't care what you purchased, your logic just doesn't make sense
@Sergey Bebenin, once again, the review is about the RAV4, CRV and CX-5, there's no coupe or sedan in this review. Reread your first respond.
I drove the CRV and CX5. Once you get inside the CX5 I don't see how you can ever leave it. It's beautiful, quiet and stylish which let's be honest the CRV is a "mini van" and not appealing for someone looking for a bit of luxurious edge in this crowded market. I installed a hitch and purchased a cargo carrier for under $300 and now have more cargo capacity than all of them!
I still leave it.. coz the rear cargo capacity and the way the rear gate slanting reducing potential cargo carrying needs......
I'd chose the Mazda CX-5 over those other 2 any day. Feels more substantial.
Mazda CX5 folks wins it hands down.I have had the pleasure to drive all those cars and the Hyundai Tucson and the Kia Sportage and in the end i put my money where my mouth is,all very good cars but the Mazda is outstanding.
OMG this was so damn good! Great job! and loved the diversity in representation and personality.
I held out like you recommended and got a great deal on the closeout 18' Rav4. In addition to that, I don't have to worry about all the oil dilution problems of the Honda CRV! Thanks guys!
If you are buying a suv for the most space, you’d be better off buying a large suv or minivan. Of these three midsize SUV’s, the Mazda is certainly my favorite. The smaller capacity is unfortunate, but the car wins in so many categories it’s much more worth buying in my opinion.
These Edmunds comparo videos are really getting better :) keep up the good work guys, I wish I could work at edmunds :)
I loved my 2015 Cx5 touring and I love my current 2018 Cx5 Grand Touring even better. Mazda is the clear winner IMO!
Have you driven your CX5 on a 6 to 8 hour long road trip?
My 2014 CX-5 gets terrific freeway mileage, as I often drive from San Diego to Riverside. I get 33-37 mpg on those drives, if there isn't much traffic out. AMAZING. This crossover is frisky and accelerates nicely - as the freeway entrances I have to use in Corona, Menifee and Oceanside (where I reside), are often short as heck. I feel like I have 5 car lengths to be up to freeway speed, and believe me, the CX-5 handles that! I got the 2.5L 4-cyl. engine after reading reviews on its get up and go, and am not sorry I did. It also can hold 4 15" tires in the cargo area with the seats up. So great fuel economy, fun to drive, and no problems in over two years of ownership (bought it used as a 2-year old, like I do most of my vehicles). Another reason I bought this SUV is the crash testing rating was Good on all counts, important with 7 grandkids I haul around at various times. All in all, I love the bright red, and only wish I had the roof racks on Scarlett.
For me, the 2018 Mazda CX5 is my preferred choice and is what l recently bought. No regrets, simply love this vehicle!
And, I preferred it to its competitors for the driving experience, ride and comfort - this acknowledging it falls short of the CRV in terms of cargo space, better has mileage and performance!
CVT transmission is a deal breaker for me.
Patriot I assume because you stay away from it, right?
Rav4 in australia doesnt have cvt
CVT IS WORST TRANSMISSION, I LOVE MY TOYOTA, QUIET, SND BULLETPROOF, XLE CAMRY IS THE TICKET, I PAID 13000 W 26000 MI, AND I LOVE IT, LEATHER INTERIOR, NO CVT, JUST POETRY IN MOTION, 2014.5 ,got last year, not 1 complaint!
Cx5 all day! 3 plated clutch automatic transmission, hemi dom pistons, ultra high compression, skyactive technology, better suspension ratios, Audi shared AWD system with WSS sensors, brighter LED headlights than Audi, list goes on! Holds better turns then Camaros
I'll take the cx5 awd touring
Hennessy * , that’s the one I have! Very well pleased!
I'll take the CX 5 Akera/Signature
I really enjoyed the presentation from three well versed experts. Unfortunately one not small detail was left out. CRV four doors open 90 degrees. I know. I'm on my second CRV. Rav4 and Mazda CX5 both open the front doors about 70 degrees and the back doors even less. Having 90 degrees is helpful to people with some sort of movement limitations, as well as to load/unload baby strollers.
Recently bought a CRV. My second choice was the CX5, while the RAV4 was #3, and would have been perfectly acceptable too. The CX5 styling almost sold me. I just wasn’t convinced a Mazda would hold up like the Honda or the Toyota, and I plan on keeping it for years. The reliability and durability meant more to me in the long run, than the styling, although I think the CRV and RAV4 are attractive cars.
mazda beat out toyota and Honda this year in terms of reliability and build quality!!! Mazda is #6 on consumer reports list of most reliable brands for this year. Honda moved down the list to #13 and toyota moved down to #9. apparently Honda has been experiencing issues with their turbo engines.
Me too!
I got the Rav4. I chose reliability. I know that when I get in my car, it will start each time.
Both the CRV and Rav4 offer long term reliability and resale value. The CRV drives way better, though. It feels like a zippier version of the Camry. The Rav4 only makes sense if you are getting the hybrid.
Will Kaufman! Man, I really liked your ways of observing the truth in what people would want to look for in a crossover. That CR-V is the best car that I would want to buy to drive everywhere with my family.
id like to see acceleration numbers for the 250hp CX5 2.5 turbo available in the top two trims
I have to have a vehicle with some personality and the Mazda fits the bill.
Mazda CX-5 all day
Nice review from you guys...clear and good explanation of the details. Great job...Edmunds!!
Guys, thanks for a great review. Toyota's handling is non-existent. CX-5 is easily the most fun to drive, such a joy! But if you need a van, get the CRV.
2 years ago I bought A 2017 Toyota RAV4 and loved it. Then a lady driver smashed and totaled my car in January this year. Now I’ve just bought a 2018 Mazda CX5 to see how it compares. So will rewatch this video again.
A very well deserved win for CR-V. No matter how good the CX-5 drives or how better the resale value of RAV-4 is, in real world, everything considered, that CR-V is just a better overall vehicle until the all new Rav-4 comes out.
That's a lie Mazda is way more reliable with a 6 speed these new crv are 🗑️
They are all good suv but for me , Toyota is still the best! durability, availability and affordability.
Now do a resale value after two and four years, I pick the Toyota as #1, Honda #2 and the Mazda in 3rd. What do you think?
BulletSpoung I would hold those same rankings as far as longevity and reliability goes as well.
I’ve had 5 mazdas, just got a 2018 CX5 Touring with preferred package, I LOVE IT!!
That loyaty says a lot. I just bought my first one in 2016 and have had no problems so far. Fun to drive too. I used to buy nothing but Toyora Camry models through the years, but now prefer my 2016.5 FWD Touring CX5.
I purchased my new SUV a month ago and I have included all 3 SUV's in my test drive. The comments in the video pretty much aligned with my test driving experience. Each SUV has its own strength and weakness. I picked the CX5 over the others because of its power train (non-turbo and CVT for reliability concern), best in class interior, exterior, class leading NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) and outstanding driving dynamics (minimum body roll and steering is more connected to the road). Yes, it's not the most fuel efficiency (26 of CX5 vs 29 of CRV for combined mpg) and as roomy as the CRV , but not all SUV buyers need room for a family of 4 or 5. A lot of aging boomers buying SUV for the ease of getting in and out, and as a matter of fact they do make up the bulk of the car buyers nowadays. You cannot go wrong if you select any one out of the three for the right attributes. Yes, the 2019 RAV4 will definitely be vastly improved but I am still not sure about the exterior styling going by what has been released. I have to see it in person.
While I believe Honda and Toyota make great practical cars....they are not in the same league in my opinion as the Mazda when it comes to styling both interior and exterior and driving dynamics. Mazda has spent time ensuring they pay special attention to the driving feel of the car and not just the ability to go from A to b which be honest if that's what you want a Honda fit would be the winner.
Owned a 2007 Mazda 3 which was brilliant and now a 19 cx 5 which makes my smile and admire it every time I pass it.
Cx5 is classy looking & fun to drive. The Honda is boring through & through and ours has a very uncomfortable ride for back seat passengers. The Toyota does not make a statement but is dependable. I think I've settled on the Mazda.
i bought the crv awd. 5 seats, 6 month later. im pretty happy, its the most Japanese of all. super smart. hey dont get me wrong i know its a 1.5 turbo and up hill u got to hit the gas hard but i live in the city, 2 weeks tank full economy does it for me. apple play, android play i use waze as my nav. i can even get wifi and watch youtube or movies in my display... and many todays features.
The smaller trunk space I can deal with in exchange for a much better driving experience. Great video though!
This test was about as useful as lining up a Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger, to see which one holds the most groceries. What these SUVs can do on a track is useless to about 100% of the people who drive them, in mostly straight line suburbia.
Make sure they don’t give you a fwd version to test against the other awds next time too. Apples to apples
Awesome video guys! I have a 2011 Toyota RAV 4 but am looking to upgrade. I love the trunk space and it is great on fuel but I hate that I can feel every bump on the road, it’s a bit loud, and no matter what tires and brakes I upgrade to I still seem to skid when I come to a stop on a rainy day. I came from sports cars before this and am known for being a bit of a speedster. I want it all. Great trunk space as I often pack up and travel with kids and tailgating gear for game day 3 hrs. away but I want great handling and suspension and a comfortable ride. What would you recommend to the mom who wants it all and within a budget?
That Crv is the Swiss army knife of all SUVs
Mr. Ash Equinox carries more at 81 cu ft with front passenger seat folded and is $6,000 on autotrader.
You don't count the pass seat when calculating space - also MSRP on a new Equinox with comparable equip, power, driving dynamics, mpgs, reliability, resale, etc is certainly not $6k.
Ever heard subaru forester guys? Thats the actual swiss army knife in suv department.... The crv is most people bought and use them strictly on the streets only... Lol
@light house Do you actually own one? I do and don't have that problem.
I think its depends on the situation. As for me, i personally choose the cx5 . Because i didnt need that big space like crv for every single day going to work or shopping etc. its stylish , luxury and comfort . Unless i got few kids, always going out for outdoor activity, really in need of huge space. Cx5 is better choice for me 😁 stylish and comfort for my daily basis. And still got lots of space to carry big item.
In 2016 bought a CX-5 after test driving the CR-V which was boring and had a gimmicky instrument panel and I'm not anti-Honda. I have a 2006 Honda Pilot and a 2014 Honda motorcycle plus Honda power equipment. I was certain I would go with the CR-V until I drove it.
The CVT is the killer for me.
I've been ruined on them. And I won't even consider a car now if it has one.
If they had a better automatic, then it would be a great purchase.
Cx5 for me 2.2 Diesel AWD,,,, as I'm still a hooligan when the wife and the kids aren't in the car... it really is a blast round counrty lanes and handles incredibly well. Also it's got the best ground clearance in its class and thats hanndy when I'm in the woods fishing/camping/dogging. Cant wait for the snow as Ive just fitted some studded Continental snow tyres
What they don't tell you about the crv is the engine is screwed (oil dilution issue)
I test drove all three of these and bought CX5. It is the best looking and handling SUV out of three
Wow everyone talks about the reasons why people would buy these things but we all know the real reason. #1 past experience with the particular brand or brand loyalty as you can see with the honda fanboys. #2 when they are confused or new to Asian vehicles they will pick the safe bet, which is toyota or honda.
You cant go wrong buying any of the 3. And there are other good choices out there too. Theres drivers out there for every brand and you can't bash them for their choices. Pick and drive what you like. Your money your choice. If it was free we would take anyone of those.
Gotta debunk #1 bro, I have two hondas, and a honda motorcycle, i went with the cx-5 because it didn't have cvt, and looked great. so i've always been die hard honda, but not when it doesn't make sense for me.
Absolutely correct like KUDOS. No vehicle is perfect but, at the end of the day FOR RELIABILITY goes to both HONDA AND TOYOTA.
When will there be a Honda CR-V hybrid available in the United States?
The CRV does everything just a little better. With me previously owning a 2012 CRV and recently upgraded to a 2017 CRV LX AWD the improvements are very real and tangible. On a side note, I really enjoy the 2.4 liter naturally aspirated LX AWD model. My thoughts on the Honda CRV: More power, better handling, Higher gas mileage, Increased space, And even better build quality. Everything feels more substantial with this new refresh. I do like the looks and sporty handling of the Mazda though.
I don't really think build quality is that good on the crv's. Hondas in general have always had a panel gap problem and having bought a cx-5 that's still made in japan....my god the tooling is good, and it puts my civic to shame.
skifree, Owning a few Honda's myself.. I can contest that build quality is fine. (except the questionable build quality of the 2012 Civic) Never had anything break or fall apart on any of my Honda's. I was given a used 89 Honda Accord LX with 204,000 miles and everything still worked. (no oil burning, trans shifted excellent, power switches/gauges perfect) Quality to me would be how long it lasts and durability. I also live 8 blocks from my Valley Honda dealership and they just take me in for service by simply driving into their maintenance drive through garage. Build quality is excellent and Service/Maintenance is exceptional. So having my 2017 CRV LX is like having my cake and eating it. P.S. My 2012 CRV LX AWD was almost flawless for the 5 years of ownership. (parking switch recall being only unscheduled visit) Not trying to be bias..., But I'm intimately informed that Honda has a few descent vehicles in their lineup. I've test drove most of the vehicles. One thing that I don't care for or like is all the tech packages, So I buy the base LX models. Enjoy your Mazda CX-5 and keep in touch if any problems arise. Thanks
Absolutely no problem with what you said, but that isn't build quality, that's reliability. And having owned a honda myself I have no issues with that.
build quality in the automotive world refers to the craftsmanship related to it's construction. It's about panel gaps, seal placement, panel alignment (if the doors are crooked for example). dash creaks and rattles.
The 2 are not realated, You can have excellent build quality with crappy reliability (take a BMW or a merc). And your honda (and mine) is an example of good reliability but not so good build quality.
TLDR is your point is perfectly fine, just your wording gives the wrong meaning that may need to be clarified when others look at it with the other meaning.
Skifree the build quality is fine on my CRV. Panel gaps/refinement or what you see is the view the individual discerning person . Build quality and reliability go hand in hand. My CRV is 1 year old tomorrow and no rattles or squeaks since bought new. I'll give you and example from a Russian video i saw. He had his SUV articulated in the air simulating if you were stuck in a ditch. When he tried to open the doors they were stuck or if open they wouldn't close (body twisted) This was a new cross over mind you. I give props to the engineers who build and designed my vehicle .
But by relating build quality with reliability you run into a situation that are excellently and reliably designed and poorly constructed. the CRV is a fine vechicle that is certainly more reliable than it's luxury german counterparts. But say that it has better build quality than a bmw or a merc or an audi, and people will just question what you are saying. Get up and close with a german car's construction and they are in a world of their own.
That's the reasoning for splitting the 2 up. build quality is not how it is engineered/designed, its the execution of the design (whether it be reliable or unreliable) into the practical world.
it is perfectly fine if you don't care about panel gaps and fit and finish. A LOT of people don't. But you can't say it has good build quality, as it leads people into thinking it does have better construction quality that it does.
If you care about driving and are not too lazy about basic maintenance, get the CX5 (I think better seating position and interior feel will outweigh the slight cargo capacity disadvantage in real life, most of the time). If driving quality is not a priority, but reliability and practicality are, get the RAV4 (especially considering the possible decrease in price with the new model arriving). Honda is out of question in this one. The only thing it has going for it is the interior, both in terms of size and comfort.
Agreed. Honda crv engine is unreliable too.
Well I never use my car for moving things so... CX5 my choice because it well designed, good agility and fun to drive too
Glad I bought my wife a 2018 CRV the turbo engine is very efficient and the cargo area is impressive for the class its in. Also to everyone whining about the turbo being less reliable are just plain wrong, turbo engines ARE the future. More HP and torque out of a smaller lighter engine its a win win.
Wait until you get the bill for decarbonizing the engine
I doubt that will happen, I make sure to be heavy on the accelerator from time to time.
RAV4 costs the least. I got xle awd for only 25k
I'm a Toyota fan, once getting 500 hundred thousand miles on a 1.8 Corolla, and with that being said; there's a reason why Toyota is "a safe choice" to quote you guys; however, I really feel the new 8 speed transmission Rav 4 will silence a lot of the complaints suggested within this video segment, as well as, I feel that Toyota makes a way better CVT than the competition displayed here. Furthermore, the exterior paint on any Toyota is far better than Honda's, even their Acura line, and I also feel that Toyota takes longer to test their products; thus taking a longer time to release a new, revised version of any of their lines.
The CRV is 7 seater, Push Button 9 Speed AT, fuel Efficient, and All lights Are LED. Its Greatest among of them!!
Joeven Yacub the CR-V-L, huh?
Joeven Yacub That's the Pilot.
In Asian markets the same CRV gets two more folding seats in the back.
Hope you guys still do videos, amazing content and realistic analysts that everyone can understand and make a buyer choice, thank you, please keep making videos!!!
RAV4 Hybrid.
I have a 2014 CX5 love it. I have driven the other 2 before and you can tell the difference in the CX5. It fells more luxury compare to the other 2.
The CVT was a total dealbreaker against the RAV4. Even though the Honda has more power, it doesn’t feel like it with the CVT. It feels so sluggish when pulling away from a stop
You don't know jack! :))) The CRV can leave other two in the dust.
Ramen For Life I didn’t say it wasn’t able to, I said it FEELS sluggish because of the awful CVT.
Idk if you did, but if you shift into "S" that is the sport mode, it's actually really responsive. Idk why they don't just have a sport button like the rav4, I thought it meant second for a year and a half...
Yea, HONDA went the way of the CVT for its EFFICIENCY but the TRADITIONAL 6,7,8 SPEED TRANSMISSIONS will WIN. Traditional TRANSMISSIONS of today-Most NOT ALL are JUST AS EFFICIENT.
2021 Mazda CX5 Turbo Signature. Picked it up yesterday. We have snow covered roads. Thè CX5 did very well on the snow and ice.
That's the one I would have loved to get, but I tend to keep my cars for several years and the CX5 still rusts way too fast. I just don't understand why the undercarriage of the CX-5 looks after 3 years like the undercarriage of a 10-year old toyota.
Just have to be different. Too many rav4 n crv on de road. Will go for mazda
good point
I ❤️ style of CX-5! Beautiful.
CX-5 looks elegant which other two cars don’t have. CRV looks ugly and Honda really needs new designers. Those who buy CX-5 are not looking for cargo space. They want its driving dynamics.
Some people prefer Honda's sport design language
Yeah it looks good and feels fast, but gets stomped in actual driving dynamics (here and in the MT article) and is the worse in terms of SUV practicality. Just get a sport hatch instead. www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-vs-2017-mazda-cx-5-comparison-review/
Driving dynamics are not the point of an SUV. The U stands for utility. If it doesn't have any, then it's completely pointless.
Some White Guy this isn't an SUV comparison it's a crossover comparison
crossover is just marketing term for small SUV. you still buy a crossover for the added utility. if you wanted a fun car, you'd get a hatchback.
The guy is right about the cargo area, most people don't buy a SUV primarily with just cargo in mind. They look at it like it gives you more ground clearance and it's got the AWD (especially if you live in a wintery state and need a bigger vehicle to handle snow). I think the high end CX5 and Rav4 in 2019 is getting ridiculous with pricing. How many trims do you need Rav4?
what about the subaru forester ?
2.5 liter boxer engine consumes oil in between oil change from the time the car is new. High engine oil consumption is a problem.
Or it cracked it's windshield and wasn't safe to drive!
I wonder how many Subaru owners got theirs after cross-shopping Toyota and Honda?
The oil consumption was an issue from 2011- about 2015
No, it's not. I have the same engine in my '17 Legacy. After 45,000 miles, I've seen NO oil consumption. Stop with the lies.
My local Honda dealer has 76 CRVs on the lot right now. 32 of those have the 2.4 liter engine. Somebody is interested in that model.
I personally still prefer the CR-V... Just wins in the categories that people in this segment are looking for. I'll probably end up with one someday when the Civic sedan doesn't suffice anymore.
I tried all three before...actually all four including the Ford Edge and eventually settling for the CRV. You won't go wrong with any of these great cars.
Does the CRV and Rav4 has spare tire included? Another concern with thoss very low hatch opening is that in the case of rear end collision, repair cost is going to be significantly higher as the hatch is more likely to be damaged
Mazdaspeed L crv does. Idk about others.
CRV does
Lmao the crv’s Spare tire is as big as the Mazda’s regular tire😂
Alex Siu L that’s what insurance is for.
I never trive cx5 before....After that I love it.
I am curious as to the potential longevity of the CRV motor. I am concerned with the oil dilution issues.
they haven't do the lateral G test. The CX5 is not for the acceleration but for the suspension set up to minimize body roll in traditional SUVs so it should have the best turning. But yea, that chassis from the CX5 is actually very very old. Even older than the Rava actually, it just been refined for since the first gen CX5.... they just keep updating the front looks and interior of the car like the mazda 6 which the chassis are not updated.... yes, it is an 8 years product now.... lol
Yeah the Mazda looks good and feels fast, but gets stomped in actual driving dynamics (here and in the MT article) and is the worse in terms of SUV practicality. Yes, the boring mom-mobile CRV is faster in the slalom too. www.motortrend.com/cars/honda/cr-v/2017/2017-honda-cr-v-vs-2017-mazda-cx-5-comparison-review/
Very interesting. You all are sure making it hard for me to make a decision!
Mazda CX5 FTW!
US market had transformed Honda. From a company that made those small aesthetically pleasing , simple, affordable, reliable yet fun to drive and practical car into big, complex, chrome dripping boring sedan or cinterblock SUVs. Still appreciate their keep practicality in mind but for the rest...
Honda is a little screwed up. It doesn't think a CVT is good enough for their ATVS but they go ahead and do a CVT for their road vehicles.
I had the cr-v and the oil dilution was big worry so I got the cx-5 and I am very happy.
i own a CX-5 if i need more space than that i'll use my truck..........CX-5 for the win
Need a new car soon and am considering holding off for the 2019 rav4. Should I be concerned of the 1st yr reliability?
wasabi9111 the RAV4 is the most reliable here along with the redesigned Chevy Equinox at about 13 repairs per 100 according to Truedelta. Currently the CR-V since it's redesign in 2017 is the worse but they continue to charge top dollar
Nah, shouldn't worry abt Toyota even in its first yr as it is pretty reliable with high resale value you can't go wrong! The exterior styling will be new but most of the integral parts and underpinnings will likely be the true, tried and tested reliable pieces that Toyota will use. Same as with most of their other models that's why they've been known to be a reliable brand coz of this strategy.
Tek z that’s what I’m hoping. This will replace my mother in laws 2004 rav4. It’s been absolutely reliable and she refuses to replace it. But that car is like a tin can with no safety features. I finally convinced her to replace her car but don’t want to be at fault if her new rav4 is unreliable compared to her current rav4.
I'd actually get a used Hyundai or Kia. They're really reliable as of late, but still depreciate off their old reputation. If you use Carfax and KBB right, you can get a three-year-old Tucson or Sportage for about half the cost of a new RAV4.
Toyota always plays it safe, nothing on them that hasn't been through the ringer :)
I suggest test driving them all when the new Rav4 is out and see how you fit in them.
I'm not a Mazda fan, more of a Honda girl but the Rav 4 and CRV looks dated and basic and I don't need that much cargo room.. Anyone have any complaints about the Mazda!?!?!?! Thinking about getting one 😊😊TY
LTETobago theyre good vehicles since FORD lost control of them. Its now Japan made 100% .
He nailed it. If the CVT isn’t a deal breaker, it isn’t a deal breaker. If it is, it is. I was dead set on getting “The CRV” but agreed to drive two others and we chose the CRV, Forrester, CX5. The choice is clear. We had to raise our voices quite a lot on the on ramps with a CVT. The slingshot affect really ruins it for me. The CRV is hard to see out of too. I don’t own a CRV and never will. Forrester was a very close second. I do a own a new “non CVT” and I’m happy with it. Though I really hope they can iron out the transmission in these cars, and get some new Honda designers... I’ll need some more choices in 7-10 years. Side note, I stopped reading the comments after the only dig on CX5 was “more frequent synthetic changes”. lol. I’m so happy I’m at a point in life where I can afford to take care of a brand new car - one extra time every two years. LOL. And that I don’t have to scream at my wife whenever accelerating. Note to all CRV drivers, not all cars are loud. Lastly, we’ve never come close to filling the “limited” cargo space. No kids, just a small dog. It holds enough for all our road trips, grocery, occasional lumber, and camping supplies. Not sure what more I could ask for.
Mazda is the best
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Toyota more reliable and better resale. Yes cx5 looks much nicer.
Mazda very good
Nope!
Jason Wang you
How’s about doing a comparison of the infotainment systems? Which one is best?