Yeeesss!! Currently with the dilemma between trail and enduro bike, precisely between Canyon Spectral (trail) and Canyon Torque (end), both with aluminium framed and 29 wheels; both seem almost the same! Would like to try both, maybe the only factor to decide would be the weight but also both weigh almost the same...! I had a kinda 'love at first sight' with the Torque but I'm afraid to get too over biked with it... 🤔 Tough decision without trying both... 😅
I have a large-ish trail bike 150 fork/130 rear 27.5 and it’s capable of more than I am. There’s absolutely no point in me having more bike, because I can’t jump much and I’m never going to race. It would cool to have a full enduro bike but absolutely I would never ride hard enough to warrant it.
Love Enduro bikes! I just completed a 2 day XC stage race on my Rocky Mountain Altitude and it went like a rocket...yes the boring climbs were a bit slow, but the bike got me to the top and I had waaaaaaay more fun than the rest bombing down the fun, tech downhills 😅
I feel like the different types of bikes are also bleeding into each other. Like some call one bike a light-enduro, the next one calls it an all-mountain, or trail bike. Especially those that are between 140mm and 160mm travel.
My local terrain is quite mild (southern Michigan, USA) and while we do have a lot of punchy ups/downs, small drops, sidehits, roots, sand, etc., it's all on a reduced scale than what you might expect from a mountainous region. I'm less interested in 'efficiency' and much more interested in traction, cornering, soaking up jumps and FUN. I've essentially turned my 2019 GT Sensor (140/130) into a mini-enduro bike w/ burly wheelset and tires, Saint brakes, platforms, spank vibrocore bar and stem, etc.....not exactly a 'lightweight' trailbike anymore, but not an Enduro sled either. So many good bikes these days, you can easily shift any bike up or down a class, just by throwing money at it.
Bought a mega this year, it climbs better than my old trail bike, is a beast downhill and I never feel over biked… hands down the best bike I have owned
I think having a super nice enduro bike is really good as you don’t need to spend a lot of money on different bikes you can just have one overhauled enduro bike and they handle well at my local DH races
As someone that got into MTB with a 120/130 2022 Gaint stance 29er trail bike I'm now looking to upgrade to an Enduro. I would only recommend someone get an Enduro if they are progressing with their riding. Doing big gnarly jumps, big gnarly gaps like "Remy and yoann barelli" It's safe to say I have found the limits of my stance 29er which is the reason I'm looking at getting an Enduro MTB with either 150/160 or 160/170.
I had both trail and enduro, enduro is really the swiss knife of mtb. A good climbing enduro or all mountain ( 140 -160 mm ) travel is the best mtb to have
I bought a specialized enduro with flight attendant and it’s just as good as my epic in fast areas and obviously better everywhere else. Love the slack geo for every type of riding even fire roads
The answer to this question is no. These bikes can take really big hits. On most trails they are too much and they make riding boring. I have Canyon Strive and sometimes its almost like riding a motor-cross bike. It takes the fun out of a lot of trails. I'd settle for short travel trail or just a trail bike.
Absolutely agree I switched from a Specialized Enduro to a Giant Trance 29 (130mm front, 120mm rear) and I'm having wayyy more fun, it's much more lively while still providing a ton of confidence with it's agressive geo. If anything I'm riding harder now since the suspension isn't working against me half the time. Should have made the switch sooner tbh.
I have a Specialized Status 140mm travel, thing sits in a weird category for me. It's definitely a trail bike but its aggressive enough to make gnarly runs feel pretty chill and doesn't seem to mind a launch to the flats. Feels like a mini enduro bike idk haha
I know what you mean, I have a 2019 norco fluid fs1 with 120mm rear 130mm front, with a 66.5 head angle, but it feels like its a cross between a xc and enduro bike, fun, agile and poppy, but stable and slack enough to handle steep double blacks, because even though its only 66.5 the shorter travel fork means the head angle doesn't steepen very much when pointing it down a steep trail, you just have less suspension to absorb impacts, so you have to use your arms more.
Yeah if you feel like it is too much off a bike take it on hard trails. I thought that, my local trails got boring, so took it to Innerleithen all it changed my view on how well I ride, or rather unwell :D
I've got an Intense Tracer 275, but still prefer to ride my old Giant Trance 2007. Smaller wheels makes the bike smaller, so easier to fit in the car, and easier to lift over fences and stiles while exploring, or even throw over your shoulder while crossing rivers, or climbing up the side of mountains over boulder fields etc, that are too steep and long to ride up. 27inch wheels are too big to be practical for exploration. I wish they sold mountain bikes nowadays, proper go anywhere ones not just for 'going fast', seems those days have gone.
i ride a 150/130, and its perfect for a do it all bike. long rides in the saddle to sending it at the bike park i haven't had any issues and have never felt underbiked. i think there is too much hype on long travel enduros.
I have a Giant Reign (160 rear, 170 front), and I ride everything with it, from riding the rough stuff in the Peak District to riding cross country, just a bit slower. Last year I did London to Brighton off road for the British Heart Foundation with no problems, I'm doing it again on my Reign in September🤟
Honestly I prefer a trail bike, but then again I race xc and just came of a hardtail but I tried a buddies yeti and it felt like a full body workout but then I got a stumpjumper and it’s perfect
Yep, trail bikes are the best all rounders, enduro bikes are for people who want a bike that specializes in going downhill fast but can still be pedaled
I have a 2014 CANYON LUX CF with the inverted suspension. . It gets me where I need to go, mostly work, and I can take it to the woods at the weekends.
I got the old Instinct frame from Rocky Mountain you can get the shockyoke of the altitude and replace the fork & damper an have an endurobike. So for me thats the quiverkiller!
For a person that hits trail features, enduro setup bike is best. But for a week end warrior that rolls over options and blue trails, trail bike suits well.
I would say a trail bike is much more versatile, full stop. Enduro bikes do not enjoy singletrack climbing, even if you can make the bike do it with appropriate power. They can also feel a bit sluggish and boring if you don't have aggressive enough trails to make use of the bike. It might be a one bike quiver in a place like the sea to sky corridor but for most folks this is way too much bike.
My bike park steed is an enduro bike. 190 front. It's a bear to pedal uphill, though. Gets the job done, but barely. I've never taken it out of the bike park, though.
Been riding Enduro for a decade, it's the only bike I will buy. It's a good all-around machine. My other bikes are sitting idle getting dusty. Poor things.
I remember when enduro bikes were marketed as all mountain 😂 I've had a 2016 specialized enduro from new, its still a good bike and still gets abused all the time and just ears everything, 160mm travel seems to be a sweet spot
Maybe, if you can fit a narrow crank and larger chainring. Most enduro bikes suffer on long term pedaling. But my 2000s bullit with 180mm was perfect as an all-rounder, so a modern bike of the same type would be perfect if you can make it pedal ok
I’d have one if I was racing. For me at 5’8” I’d prefer 27.5 medium with 140 rear 150 front trail bike. I put sticky heavy tyres on for really rough stuff.
No matter what kind of bike you have, it always sucks to go uphill. So why not choose a bike that is fun and capable when it is pointed downhill. Enduro all day!
Sad to say.. I used to ride a hardtail 90% of the time. Then full sus 50/50 with the hardtail. Then I got a newer enduro bike and didn't touch the hardtail for a month or so. Tried to ride it yesterday and with the older geo/shorter wheelbase it feels extremely sketchy in comparison. So much so I feel like i can't ride it even 1/2 as well as I used to. Guess my point is yeah enduro bikes could be the perfect bike.. but swapping between bikes is detrimental as well (depending on skills lol).
I fell for it, got an 3nduro and it's a pig to ride about on, efficient they said. So slow my stumpy do 10 mile in 50 mins no effort, couple miles on the enduro I'm fkd. It's not fun. There not just more travel they are a lot chunkier etc. And I've got a twinloc which is great but still hard work. I am really ill though and lost a load of weight. Was hoping the ransom would motivate me to try rebuild some fitness. Guna get some trail tyres for it today see if that works. Guna get a 27.5 whheelset eventually aswell for more nimble smashing about
So....really, enduro bikes are just super trail bikes and super enduro bikes are therefore super super trail bikes. I'd still have 1 of everything if I could :- D
I have both from 2013 and I find the Enduro offers a margin of safety over the XC. XC has a bit more of a fun factor over the Enduro but I find my self in some serous sketch situations at times. Overall... I like bikes.
I now have an ebike for my local enduro trails, so I'm replacing my enduro bike with a trail bike - should still cope with most bike park trails i ride if i ever want to go not on my ebike and will be more fun on trail centre loops.
Which type of bike do you ride? Are you thinking of getting an enduro bike? Let us know below 👇
I have a giant trance 27.5 160 forks and 145 rear suspension great bike and great for everything absolutely love it and a white hard tail dirt jumper
Just got Mega 290. Love it
Endure bikeis not a quiver killer. Trail bike is.
@@Paullicz nice I love the nuke proof Meges they are well nice
Yeeesss!! Currently with the dilemma between trail and enduro bike, precisely between Canyon Spectral (trail) and Canyon Torque (end), both with aluminium framed and 29 wheels; both seem almost the same! Would like to try both, maybe the only factor to decide would be the weight but also both weigh almost the same...! I had a kinda 'love at first sight' with the Torque but I'm afraid to get too over biked with it... 🤔 Tough decision without trying both... 😅
I have a large-ish trail bike 150 fork/130 rear 27.5 and it’s capable of more than I am. There’s absolutely no point in me having more bike, because I can’t jump much and I’m never going to race. It would cool to have a full enduro bike but absolutely I would never ride hard enough to warrant it.
Love Enduro bikes! I just completed a 2 day XC stage race on my Rocky Mountain Altitude and it went like a rocket...yes the boring climbs were a bit slow, but the bike got me to the top and I had waaaaaaay more fun than the rest bombing down the fun, tech downhills 😅
I feel like the different types of bikes are also bleeding into each other. Like some call one bike a light-enduro, the next one calls it an all-mountain, or trail bike. Especially those that are between 140mm and 160mm travel.
My local terrain is quite mild (southern Michigan, USA) and while we do have a lot of punchy ups/downs, small drops, sidehits, roots, sand, etc., it's all on a reduced scale than what you might expect from a mountainous region. I'm less interested in 'efficiency' and much more interested in traction, cornering, soaking up jumps and FUN. I've essentially turned my 2019 GT Sensor (140/130) into a mini-enduro bike w/ burly wheelset and tires, Saint brakes, platforms, spank vibrocore bar and stem, etc.....not exactly a 'lightweight' trailbike anymore, but not an Enduro sled either. So many good bikes these days, you can easily shift any bike up or down a class, just by throwing money at it.
Bought a mega this year, it climbs better than my old trail bike, is a beast downhill and I never feel over biked… hands down the best bike I have owned
This is exactly what I did this past winter. Coming from an All mountain 150/150 27.5 to a WR1 Arrival 170. Best upgrade ever. 🤙🏼
I think having a super nice enduro bike is really good as you don’t need to spend a lot of money on different bikes you can just have one overhauled enduro bike and they handle well at my local DH races
As someone that got into MTB with a 120/130 2022 Gaint stance 29er trail bike I'm now looking to upgrade to an Enduro. I would only recommend someone get an Enduro if they are progressing with their riding. Doing big gnarly jumps, big gnarly gaps like "Remy and yoann barelli" It's safe to say I have found the limits of my stance 29er which is the reason I'm looking at getting an Enduro MTB with either 150/160 or 160/170.
I had both trail and enduro, enduro is really the swiss knife of mtb. A good climbing enduro or all mountain ( 140 -160 mm ) travel is the best mtb to have
I bought a specialized enduro with flight attendant and it’s just as good as my epic in fast areas and obviously better everywhere else. Love the slack geo for every type of riding even fire roads
I have a hardtail (stoic) and an enduro. I feel like I can do any kind of riding with these two bikes.
The answer to this question is no. These bikes can take really big hits. On most trails they are too much and they make riding boring. I have Canyon Strive and sometimes its almost like riding a motor-cross bike. It takes the fun out of a lot of trails. I'd settle for short travel trail or just a trail bike.
i concur
Absolutely agree I switched from a Specialized Enduro to a Giant Trance 29 (130mm front, 120mm rear) and I'm having wayyy more fun, it's much more lively while still providing a ton of confidence with it's agressive geo. If anything I'm riding harder now since the suspension isn't working against me half the time.
Should have made the switch sooner tbh.
I think the Strive 2022 is awesome for every ride with trails. Feels So good.
It is like taking a Ferrari or Lambo to an autocross just to get beat by a miata or civic haha.
Mtb’s are like golf clubs. Sure you can play a round and only take a 2 iron, but who wants that? Work hard, save your money and get one of each!
I have a Specialized Status 140mm travel, thing sits in a weird category for me. It's definitely a trail bike but its aggressive enough to make gnarly runs feel pretty chill and doesn't seem to mind a launch to the flats. Feels like a mini enduro bike idk haha
I know what you mean, I have a 2019 norco fluid fs1 with 120mm rear 130mm front, with a 66.5 head angle, but it feels like its a cross between a xc and enduro bike, fun, agile and poppy, but stable and slack enough to handle steep double blacks, because even though its only 66.5 the shorter travel fork means the head angle doesn't steepen very much when pointing it down a steep trail, you just have less suspension to absorb impacts, so you have to use your arms more.
Yeah if you feel like it is too much off a bike take it on hard trails. I thought that, my local trails got boring, so took it to Innerleithen all it changed my view on how well I ride, or rather unwell :D
I've got an Intense Tracer 275, but still prefer to ride my old Giant Trance 2007. Smaller wheels makes the bike smaller, so easier to fit in the car, and easier to lift over fences and stiles while exploring, or even throw over your shoulder while crossing rivers, or climbing up the side of mountains over boulder fields etc, that are too steep and long to ride up. 27inch wheels are too big to be practical for exploration. I wish they sold mountain bikes nowadays, proper go anywhere ones not just for 'going fast', seems those days have gone.
Transition Sentinel - bought it a year ago, and don't regret it. Sort of a jack of all trades.
i ride a 150/130, and its perfect for a do it all bike. long rides in the saddle to sending it at the bike park i haven't had any issues and have never felt underbiked. i think there is too much hype on long travel enduros.
I have a Giant Reign (160 rear, 170 front), and I ride everything with it, from riding the rough stuff in the Peak District to riding cross country, just a bit slower.
Last year I did London to Brighton off road for the British Heart Foundation with no problems, I'm doing it again on my Reign in September🤟
Honestly I prefer a trail bike, but then again I race xc and just came of a hardtail but I tried a buddies yeti and it felt like a full body workout but then I got a stumpjumper and it’s perfect
Yep, trail bikes are the best all rounders, enduro bikes are for people who want a bike that specializes in going downhill fast but can still be pedaled
I bought a canyon cf8 Spectral which is in between enduro and trail bike and i love it
Yeah I love my enduro bike ...Use it for everything
a thumbs up for yellow bike!
I have a 2014 CANYON LUX CF with the inverted suspension. . It gets me where I need to go, mostly work, and I can take it to the woods at the weekends.
I feel like Enduro is the closest to do it all you can get
love my GG Gnarvana so I absolutely would say yes!
Hardcore hardtail bikes for ever !!❤
I got the old Instinct frame from Rocky Mountain you can get the shockyoke of the altitude and replace the fork & damper an have an endurobike. So for me thats the quiverkiller!
Riding hardtail everywhere.
I think 150mm front travel is a good sweet spot for a do it all bike
I just brought on DH bike as its a no compromise beast.
For a person that hits trail features, enduro setup bike is best. But for a week end warrior that rolls over options and blue trails, trail bike suits well.
I would say a trail bike is much more versatile, full stop. Enduro bikes do not enjoy singletrack climbing, even if you can make the bike do it with appropriate power. They can also feel a bit sluggish and boring if you don't have aggressive enough trails to make use of the bike. It might be a one bike quiver in a place like the sea to sky corridor but for most folks this is way too much bike.
My next bike would have 120-140mm fork
My bike park steed is an enduro bike. 190 front. It's a bear to pedal uphill, though. Gets the job done, but barely. I've never taken it out of the bike park, though.
Been riding Enduro for a decade, it's the only bike I will buy. It's a good all-around machine. My other bikes are sitting idle getting dusty. Poor things.
I remember when enduro bikes were marketed as all mountain 😂 I've had a 2016 specialized enduro from new, its still a good bike and still gets abused all the time and just ears everything, 160mm travel seems to be a sweet spot
Maybe, if you can fit a narrow crank and larger chainring. Most enduro bikes suffer on long term pedaling.
But my 2000s bullit with 180mm was perfect as an all-rounder, so a modern bike of the same type would be perfect if you can make it pedal ok
I’d have one if I was racing. For me at 5’8” I’d prefer 27.5 medium with 140 rear 150 front trail bike. I put sticky heavy tyres on for really rough stuff.
Waiting on my Ibis Ripmo AF to be delivered right now and it's killing me!! 😲😲
Love enduro bikes, although I only have a hardtail (Nukeproof Scout), but soon I'll definitely get one...😂🤘🏼🤘🏼😅
Enduro Mountain bike is the future bike build tough, long travel rear and front design to climb and downhill. Short chainstay for more power
Not a dork at all, GMBN on yor top 😅😅
No matter what kind of bike you have, it always sucks to go uphill. So why not choose a bike that is fun and capable when it is pointed downhill. Enduro all day!
Yeah, I ride enduro... but on an HCHT 😎
Enduro all the way
Sad to say.. I used to ride a hardtail 90% of the time. Then full sus 50/50 with the hardtail. Then I got a newer enduro bike and didn't touch the hardtail for a month or so. Tried to ride it yesterday and with the older geo/shorter wheelbase it feels extremely sketchy in comparison. So much so I feel like i can't ride it even 1/2 as well as I used to. Guess my point is yeah enduro bikes could be the perfect bike.. but swapping between bikes is detrimental as well (depending on skills lol).
Please tell us what is the Model of that Nukeproof?
Enduro! 🤘
I fell for it, got an 3nduro and it's a pig to ride about on, efficient they said. So slow my stumpy do 10 mile in 50 mins no effort, couple miles on the enduro I'm fkd. It's not fun. There not just more travel they are a lot chunkier etc. And I've got a twinloc which is great but still hard work. I am really ill though and lost a load of weight. Was hoping the ransom would motivate me to try rebuild some fitness. Guna get some trail tyres for it today see if that works. Guna get a 27.5 whheelset eventually aswell for more nimble smashing about
I'd rather get a lightweight trail bike, and then upgrade to a longer travel fork. Enduro bikes are way too heavy in my opinion.
Riding Fromme In the AM With My CF Warden 😎
Whyte T160RS. Whyte say it's endiuro/trail. All I know is it's bloody brilliant to ride.
My next bike will be a steel Enduro
Im literally looking at building a banshee titan this morning :D what are the odds!?
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frame size is ?
I just bought a 160mm Hardtail, so I guess that's 'enduro'....Ha !!
get a down country bike. Can do everything
guys could I use an enduro to do jumps ?
i absolutely love enduro bike but i sadly dont own one as they are so epensive. im using a 500 $ hardtail thats breaking apart. anyways good vid.
So....really, enduro bikes are just super trail bikes and super enduro bikes are therefore super super trail bikes. I'd still have 1 of everything if I could :- D
You can never have too many bikes!
an enduro emtnbike is the real quiver killer….
There someone without an enduro bike?
Naturally the answer to that question depends on each individual’s needs. For myself, absolutely not. Next question…
I have both from 2013 and I find the Enduro offers a margin of safety over the XC. XC has a bit more of a fun factor over the Enduro but I find my self in some serous sketch situations at times.
Overall... I like bikes.
It needs a motor !
I now have an ebike for my local enduro trails, so I'm replacing my enduro bike with a trail bike - should still cope with most bike park trails i ride if i ever want to go not on my ebike and will be more fun on trail centre loops.
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This videos getting increasingly boring 😮
I like them, very helpful.