RT gave some background story of Shine in one of the videos. Shine was involved in some betting scandal losing games by purpose while betting some larger sums on the opponent
rare to see a protoss player who actually has a brain and waits patiently for the right moment instead of just a-move his entire army into siege tanks and die
Hey @Arty, cloaked reaver made me think of snow and his little special moves, why don't you cast one of your own games against him, that might be a little painful to you, but I think we would enjoy that ;)
i don't know if this is correct or not, but this is what i found on the internet: "He's banned because he qualified for one of the ASL's but quit last minute because he didn't want to travel to Seoul."
@@anonamos701 I mean I don't know for sure if that was the reason but it makes sense to me. A bye in a tournament is pretty undesirable, and if he cancelled last minute it puts the organisers in a bad spot.
He qualified for asl and then dropped out last minute, he's an all around very bm racist guy, and he participated in some tournament with Savior in China. Somehow he's 32 and can't keep his shit together.
when you kill 2 goons with 0 loss couldn't a good move be just all-in by pulling some SCVs and try to set up a contain in the natural? the reaver won't nearly be fast enough and protoss just spent bunch of money upgrading. is the reason you don't know if they're going 3 gate observer goon?
Brood War has a clearer art style and units don't blob up due to pathing/collision/control group limit. This leads to more varied and dynamic engagements throughout the entire length of play. And since player control will inevitably be imperfect we also get the exciting come back mechanic that SC2 lacks. Brood War never ends up being a blob vs blob stand off that instantly ends the game once one actual engagement happens. No modern game will ever match Brood War as a spectator sport since no modern player or developer will accept a game that is as mechanically challenging as Brood War and it is those mechanics that make Brood War a spectacle for spectators. You don't have to know anything about the game as a casual observer to enjoy it, it just looks cool and exciting. Whereas, imo, every other esport appeals to people who already play those games. The crowds Brood War drew at its peak were beautiful, you had the nerds, the super fans, regular guys, salary men, hot chicks, literal groupies for some players, freaking old people who probably never even played a video game. It was a slice of every demographic and my money is on no game ever recreating that
May be a stupid question but would it ever be viable to use ghost lockdown vs carriers? Is it too much to invest in, too micro intensive, or is it a timing issue?
Occasionally you see a pro TvP game with lockdown but it's exceedingly rare. The costs in both resources and time to make enough ghosts, let alone tech them up to lockdown to be ready for the carriers makes it unfeasible 99% of the time. Think about how difficult it would be to pump out enough mech to deal with the protoss gateway units while simultaneously amassing enough ghosts to make it worthwhile to spend the resources on them. Then you would need the APM to both keep them alive and get them into position to be of any use in the first place. And if the carrier transition never comes then you're stuck with the largely useless, squishy ghosts for the gateway army to chew up. Imagine the absolute massacre from one scarab getting through on your group of ghosts LOL...
One thing that really sets apart pro terrans from the rest is targeting goons with tanks in engagements and not having them blast zeals & AoE their own tanks... always sad to see :/
Goliaths just plain don't work against carriers because they just get kited. I think you have to go wraith because going goliath against carriers is just an insta loss.
Sadly wraith takes too much in resources for building the starports and build time. They just aren't tanky enough to kill more than a few carriers. I wish we could see BC's with yamato to even the field but I think that runs into similar problems and even less mobility.
@@lawrence9561 Looks like our conversation sparked the title for the next days video on artosistv, sadly it didnt even try explaining when wraiths work and dont work.
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Arty: He's an ass-
Me: Well that's not very nice.
Arty: And I believe he's still banned from ASL, as well.
Me: I see, carry on.
RT gave some background story of Shine in one of the videos. Shine was involved in some betting scandal losing games by purpose while betting some larger sums on the opponent
@@AlexQueRico I don't mean to be that guy and thanks for the info, but it's Shinee, not Shine.
@@InvaderMixo thanks didn't know :)
that mass lockdown play was sick and absolutely destroyed the entire army
i dont believe you 😂
If the spell control was like in SC2 it would be possible since the Ghost is really cheap in this game.
oh you ass I was so fuckin excited, god I hate fake spoiler comments
Artosis, I've had enough. I will be writing a strongly worded letter as we the community demand more Flash
I sign this petition!
Nah, I love that RT casts other replays besides Flash. The BW scene is so much more than just Flash, however great he is.
@@bbroeren6431 That's a paddlin'
No flash no watch
Something something Luigi fucking haha so funny
No chills. No chills at all!
🛡SPOILER🛡WALL🛡
here king 👑 u dropped this
Artosis: *whispers*
Me: *chills literal chills*
Bro I never thought of building 6 Dark Archon to counter BattleCruiser with feedback quite like that.
I'm getting chills from rage because this is not a flash game
I know. It's fucking ridiculous
lol "don't turn it off"
When protoss has carrier, it's already over most of the time
rare to see a protoss player who actually has a brain and waits patiently for the right moment instead of just a-move his entire army into siege tanks and die
HAVING A GREAT DAYYY HERE TADAAAAYYYYYYjj!
- When ArtosisCasts.
Chills would have Flashed.
Damn, flash games are so rare these days
Hopefully we'll get another one in a month or two
Nice title let's see how it delivers
Would be cool if every protoss unit had permacloak
Arty you are the best caster man❤❤
quickly finding shiny - me cleaning my bike
Soma also won an ACS! Just watched the SSL Ro24 Groups and
too bad Quickly didn't make it through this season.
He's just sitting in an arch!
That was a very cool game.
At @6:20 , you can hear the commentator if it was me who was playing
My kingdom for a Soulkey game!
Hey @Arty, cloaked reaver made me think of snow and his little special moves, why don't you cast one of your own games against him, that might be a little painful to you, but I think we would enjoy that ;)
Artosis calling Shine an ass here makes alot more sense after one of his recent streams where Shine just acted like the biggest asshole the whole game
Why can’t I ever get enough of BW??? Love it man!
We need more Shinee!
Why is shinee banned?
i don't know if this is correct or not, but this is what i found on the internet: "He's banned because he qualified for one of the ASL's but quit last minute because he didn't want to travel to Seoul."
@@evabeekers1398 wait that can get you banned for not wanting to travel there? Wild.
@@anonamos701 I mean I don't know for sure if that was the reason but it makes sense to me. A bye in a tournament is pretty undesirable, and if he cancelled last minute it puts the organisers in a bad spot.
Please elaborate on shinee ASL ban? What happened?
Also: Which one is Flash?
Ps. If you Arty have any contact to Flash: let him know we want him to play Random once in a while... Just as a scare tactics
He qualified for asl and then dropped out last minute, he's an all around very bm racist guy, and he participated in some tournament with Savior in China. Somehow he's 32 and can't keep his shit together.
Did Flash retire again? Haven’t seen his games for a while.
Aw man no 🥶🧊 today. Also no Flash💤
7:20 And that's why bio is useless vs protoss
Bro this isnt a flash game? What the hell are you doing? I demand more Flash now
when you kill 2 goons with 0 loss couldn't a good move be just all-in by pulling some SCVs and try to set up a contain in the natural? the reaver won't nearly be fast enough and protoss just spent bunch of money upgrading.
is the reason you don't know if they're going 3 gate observer goon?
"No Flash here today", wow, unsubbed... jk, I love all Arty casts ♥
lol why is shiny banned from asl?
Is there an English cast of the ACS anywhere?
Is it me or is Broodwar far more entertaining and easier to watch as a viewer than Starcraft 2?
Brood War has a clearer art style and units don't blob up due to pathing/collision/control group limit. This leads to more varied and dynamic engagements throughout the entire length of play. And since player control will inevitably be imperfect we also get the exciting come back mechanic that SC2 lacks. Brood War never ends up being a blob vs blob stand off that instantly ends the game once one actual engagement happens. No modern game will ever match Brood War as a spectator sport since no modern player or developer will accept a game that is as mechanically challenging as Brood War and it is those mechanics that make Brood War a spectacle for spectators. You don't have to know anything about the game as a casual observer to enjoy it, it just looks cool and exciting. Whereas, imo, every other esport appeals to people who already play those games. The crowds Brood War drew at its peak were beautiful, you had the nerds, the super fans, regular guys, salary men, hot chicks, literal groupies for some players, freaking old people who probably never even played a video game. It was a slice of every demographic and my money is on no game ever recreating that
OMG AGAIN NO FLASHDAY?! 😢😢😢
No Flash games? My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
I know I like to start my day off with flash lately
Flash would have won.
Flash games, or we riot!!!
Has Shiny ever played Flash?
No Flash|? OMG, why no pls. +_+
May be a stupid question but would it ever be viable to use ghost lockdown vs carriers?
Is it too much to invest in, too micro intensive, or is it a timing issue?
Occasionally you see a pro TvP game with lockdown but it's exceedingly rare. The costs in both resources and time to make enough ghosts, let alone tech them up to lockdown to be ready for the carriers makes it unfeasible 99% of the time. Think about how difficult it would be to pump out enough mech to deal with the protoss gateway units while simultaneously amassing enough ghosts to make it worthwhile to spend the resources on them. Then you would need the APM to both keep them alive and get them into position to be of any use in the first place. And if the carrier transition never comes then you're stuck with the largely useless, squishy ghosts for the gateway army to chew up. Imagine the absolute massacre from one scarab getting through on your group of ghosts LOL...
Artosis you missed your chance to do a fake out and say fastest rising brood war player… flash
There's a Terran but he's not Flash, what is this game Artrussis is casting, it sure isn't Brood War
Arbiters didn't do much. Insta transition to carriers would probably be more effective.
What does he mean when he says "hey guys"?
Time for Shiney to barcode bm smurf some more
Another day without a Flash cast.
Please more Flash
You use arrow keys for camera movement?! No wonder I get motion sickness watching your videos.
Do something different... Flash vs Zerg lets GO! ...
...
Aw shucks
What happened to all of the Flash games on my Flash ladder matches channel?
the title of this video is misleading and I feel violated.
One thing that really sets apart pro terrans from the rest is targeting goons with tanks in engagements and not having them blast zeals & AoE their own tanks... always sad to see :/
Why do so many players get +1 plasma shields when they go carriers? I though plasma shield upgrades were really bad.
why tf did dewalt pull out
FREE SHINY!
Can I make a request? I would like to see a ZvZ with Flash versus Flash. Please
Artosis, please only cast Flash games. I BOYCOTT videos without Flash in there.
The fact we haven’t seen Flash’s 6-0 against snow is very upsetting, Arty 😠
Flash
Hello, why shinee is banned from ASL?
Hey I have a question how do i stream one my replays to TH-cam? Thanks!
Tôi chưa thấy ai có thể đánh lui 10 con ruồi chúa và vô số ruồi con của tộc protosss
Why is he banned from ASL?
We need zerg!!!
.
For the algo
Great game, thanks for casting! Why Shinee is an ass and why is he banned from ASL?
No Flash? RE-FUND! RE-FUND!
Banned from ASL?
Wut? Qrd?
Why is Shinee an "ass"?
Can flash play in acs?
good question
Yes but only 1 handed.
gg
Nope
Comments
Bro is trying not to become a flash streamer can u blame him
Stop with these none Flash games! This is not what people subscribe for, see you tomorrow.
Goliaths just plain don't work against carriers because they just get kited. I think you have to go wraith because going goliath against carriers is just an insta loss.
Sadly wraith takes too much in resources for building the starports and build time. They just aren't tanky enough to kill more than a few carriers. I wish we could see BC's with yamato to even the field but I think that runs into similar problems and even less mobility.
😅@@JohnDobak
@@lawrence9561 Looks like our conversation sparked the title for the next days video on artosistv, sadly it didnt even try explaining when wraiths work and dont work.
First
1st
Sorry, but im actually first
more flash games, thumbs up and a watch. no flash game thumbs down and no watch. hate to be the guy, but here i am.