Strictly Scandal: Is the show too toxic to go on? Feat. Edwina Currie | Storm Huntley
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- It's the BBC's biggest prime time Saturday night show, bursting onto our screens back in 2004
We've seen celebrities, sports stars and even politicians shimmy across the dancefloor, waltzing their way into our hearts and keeping us glued to the screen...
But - lately it's less known for it's sequins and more for the scandal behind the scenes
First up Pro Giovanni was accused of bullying by Sherlock star Amanda Abbington, which he denies.
Then - Reality star Zara McDermott opened up about her experince being paired with Grazziano Di Prima.
He's admitted to kicking his Zara during rehearsals last year.
Now today Paralympian Will Bailey, who was partnered with Janette Manrara, says a dance he was asked to do ruined his life after tearing a ligament.
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Now herein lies the problem. People do not believe the pro's would bully anyone. But he did. He kicked Zara in training on purpose and there is video footage of it. He is only apologising for it now because the video has come out. Any form of bullying is unprofessional and out of order and Amanda is the one that complained to the BBC, even though others had gone through the same thing with him. She risked so much, but did it anyway because she is a decent human being. And the backlash was horrendous, especially the threats to her and her family. She knew it would be hard work and exhausting. She's not an idiot. But the way she was treated was unacceptable and that was why she complained. She was willing to put the work in, but was not willing to be treated in such an abusive way. We should be applauding her, not criticising her.
This discussion saddened me. To hear two of the contributors essentially victim shaming was disappointing as is to hear a parent say she wanted her daughter to go to dancing to be shouted at. That has to be the quickest way to turn a youngster off of it for life. The truth is the actions of Amanda and the others who have come forward will improve safe guarding for contestants and professionals. To hear women put other women down here for speaking up and that they ‘chose’ this and are ‘snowflakes’ is troubling. What message does this give young girls who may be watching and may be being abused by their instructors?Certainly not to speak up. Poor treatment of a serious issue.
This desperate dancer and her opionions, the celebs are not dancers do not want to be dancers just because she would do anything and accept anything to get on Strictly as she reminds constantly a trained dancer. Bet she was a bully at school, she cant even let the other lady speak, they should not expect it to be though 🙄
She is someone who was desperate to dance but hasn’t. Her views on what ballet teaching is is utter nonsense. Whether you’re trained or not, you don’t need to be tapped with a stick to learn something. It’s lazy teaching.
I'm finding the victim blaming unbelievable ! Being kicked and spat at is ok?
Totally agree , it’s very worrying
Dancers just want to be more famous & celebs just want money. Fed up with it now
I know someone who should get cancelled Vine.
Yes and the trustworthy Currie.
This show is crap and rubbish and bullying people
Most viewers are watching to see celebs do their best not be whipped to do their best or a professions unrealistic expection of their best.
You can't make an omelette without cracking eggs. If you don't expect hard work, and a really hard competative regime - you shouldn't join. This whole episode was caused by a person who was looking after a disabled person - and then dancing with a pro who is by nature very competetive! The training is mentally and physically exhausting, and she should never have undertaken the competition. They pros want to win. They assume that the celebs want the same thing, so they train, and train hard. I honestly can't believe any of the pros would bully anyone unreasonably.
Yet clearly they did. Hard work is one thing abuse is another
Now herein lies the problem. You do not believe the pro's would bully anyone. But he did. He kicked Zara in training on purpose and there is video footage of it. He is only apologising for it now because the video has come out. Any form of bullying is unprofessional and out of order and Amanda is the one that complained to the BBC, even though others had gone through the same thing with him. She risked so much, but did it anyway because she is a decent human being. And the backlash was horrendous, especially the threats to her and her family. She knew it would be hard work and exhausting. She's not an idiot. But the way she was treated was unacceptable and that was why she complained. She was willing to put the work in, but was not willing to be treated in such an abusive way. We should be applauding her, not criticising her.
Anne can't believe it. That's that then. 😮
Just because you can't believe it doesn't mean it doesn't happen....
@tracy2508 well said.
If you were not in the room you don't have a solid opinion.
Why would you send your daughter somewhere they will be made to feel crap about themselves
Just what I thought!
I think the idea was to toughen her up so that she could stand up for herself and feel good about herself.
If it wasn't for strictly these so called professional dancers would never have been heard of!!!!
Either would most of the so called celebrities! Who knows them these days?
@@Happyoldgit Most of the celebrities are well know especially to British people who watch this show. The professional dancers mostly only well known in their own circles of the dancing world.
As the years have gone by the more the unknowns are performing. The so called celebrities craving stardom, hardly anyone knows who they are, some TH-camrs looking for fame! They score one of the biggest shows, get their names out there which will lead to more work and then start acting like divas and complaining! I’m not condoning the kick but one is complaining of injury! Get over yourself!
The lady in blue is living in the past and her past aspirations to be a dancer. No teacher worth their salt uses a stick to tap anyone, anywhere to get their point over. It’s lazy teaching. The big issue here is that Strictly clearly haven’t a had clearly laid out rules and regulations for their teaching practices. If this was all set out in stone with lines that mustn’t be crossed, everyone would know where they stand, dancers/choreographers and celebrities who are learning from them. It’s not rocket science. Have a contract in place which states what is expected from the dancers. Maybe some professional training in current teaching practices. It just needed to be transparent and clear from the start. It is the BBC’s mistake in their duty of care to both the dancers and the celebrities.
No she not you bully
A lot of the infleuncers that have been on the show have done great so i don't know what Edwina is talking about. Also Zara did not complain the staff on the BBC who viewed everything made the complaint. Edwina is speaking out of her ass.
As usual!
50 hrs of footage, allegedly. We will need to see ALL 50hrs to form a view. Even then the ''abuse'' might be ambiguous. As teachers will tell you some approaches are welcomed by some, seen as bullying by others. BBC probably needs to put ALL 50hrs on utube.
Let us see the footage of this kick!! Was it done in a playful way?.If not and done aggressively then that is NOT acceptable.
Completely agree - I think he probably nudged her with his leg. There’s no way he literally booted her and we’re only hearing about this now 😂
How do you kick someone in a playful way? 🤔
@@tracy2508 the same way I nudge my cat off the bed when I’m trying to watch tv 😉
@@crazycatpetera1404 We both know your cat wouldnt put up with any of that nonsense. You'd be sleeping on the floor 😁
@@tracy2508 by playfully nudging them or tapping them.
Not that many people from sport have actually won strictly though . Annabelle although she did well was nowhere near Ellie & Bobby . All this snowflake stuff is absolutely rubbish .
It has been toxic from the word go!! If you look back over the years controversy follows every season and the worst thing of all is, it's fixed!! That's why I stopped watching it years ago.
Training for Strictly is BOOT CAMP - not a walk in the park. A pity, I think, is that the comedy pairing is not there anymore. But let's not forget Rose and Giovanni - it was gruelling training and stamina on her part that helped them win in '21. Debbie McGee walked the Pyrenean path only a month before entering Strictly. She was fit, she was also a ballet dancer in her younger days. She too danced with Giovanni and she loved it! And they got to the final.
Good point.
If Giovanni had been a
problem, Debbie, being a trained dancer and entertainer, would have put him firmly in his place. Instead, she has praised the man. A clash of personalities may have come into it?
If its true bullying is 100 % wrong . Strictly dancing should be axed immediately. After all the show just recharges old celebrities. Bring back come dancing.😮
What I don’t understand why is every one coming out of the woodwork,why did they not complain at the time?
I mean when you see how that woman has been treated, is it any surprise?!
Because abuse takes a long time to process. Also, they probably predicted the reaction they would receive.
Because they don't want death threats?
She did complain. 3 days in. To the show's producers. They didn't do anything about it.
They are to blame for this. The BBC management. It's not the first time they have turned a blind eye to toxic behaviour.
Let's also mention all the contestants who have continued happy relationships with their dancing partners long after the shows have finished each year.
The lady in the green is speaking facts.
It's weird philosophy - to say that Celebrities do not have to do the show. The professionals do not have to do the show, either! If they don't have the patience, understanding and the skill what teachers need - they may keep dancing between each other.
the celebs are going into the dancers world not the other way round they have little time to train them up for the show its a dance competition not a stroll in the park
@@dianecameron137 No doubt about that. But some people don't have dance ability and it's up to organisers to see that. They are not preparing them for the world class championship, but for the family show. And to make someone get lifelong injuries - just for the entertainment is really not appropriate, to say the least.
The woman in blue is on point
Erm, not really
I dont get why any people would want to watch a ballroom dancing show full of attention seekers.
The one in blue gets it
She doesn't, as she said she's a trained dancer. It's different being a trained dancer and a random person lol
She’s not at all reflecting current teaching practices and what is and isn’t acceptable in this day and age. Maybe when she was 10, but that treatment simply does not fly these days and the top teachers in the top schools would be fired if they used a stick
@@HelenScott-hw2cf It's breaking someone in, like a horse. He will have been in control,, it's a tactic. She didn't realise. In my opinion.
Well now they know so see how many take it up this year.
I do think some of them are being a bit wimpish but there’s absolutely no excuse for kicking your partner
Danielle nailed it.
BBC should stop asking social media influencers and wannabes who are NOT celebrities in the sense of stage, screen or music and invite TRUE celebrities past or current who are known to the audience. Stop talking tosh. It’s dance, it’s hard and they get paid handsomely for taking part. If you don’t want to take part, don’t go on it. Simple
I couldn't agree more, each year when they show the lineup I ask who are they? As Edwina said it is more often the professional athletes that progress well, It Takes Two, records the number of hours spent in training tie that in to those that do well.
Lots of talk here about victim shaming, however the cameras are on these people throughout the rehersals, if the "Celebrity" feels that can't speak up for themselves, what about the people that trawl through all the footage to bring us rehersal highlights & best bits? If they see this happening why is it confined to the BBC coridors? Interesting that Abington had an interview on channel 4 just before she opened in a new play, her major complaint, 'he wasn't kind". I hate to use the word snowflake but...
Just axe the programme…. Sooner or later there will be no professional dancers brave enough to take part!!
Sack the ones who are wrong and get new dancers. Simple
Don’t you think the professionals choose who to shout at ???
I think SCD has needed a reset for many years. There is Craig croaking off to contestants about it being a “ dance competition darling” and Anton talking about it being “ entertainment “. It can of course be both , a dance competition to entertain. When it comes to expectations of contestants and the public they need to be clear . Some opinions are it’s a competition so get on with it as the “professionals reputation is at risk”..( I don’t buy that) or it’s entertainment with untrained adults doing their best. If it seriously is a competition then why are you recruiting the likes of John Serjeant and Anne Widdicombe to compete? Surely such partners are the kiss of death to the professionals! No….because it’s entertainment by people performing to the best of their abilities. All that bitching and barbing from some of the judges is pathetic. If the professional dancers, and judges have the mind set of the woman in blue and taught discipline through being shouted at etc then this maelstrom is the loutcome.
Most definitely NOT too toxic it’s only 2 out of 20 pros from last year and yes it’s really shite but it is literally 2 and that doesn’t make others the same
I agree whole heartedly with girl in the blue. 😊
Oh for God's sake do FO!!! Give it a flippin' rest!
So true Edwina.
She’s a professional liar.
Will Strictly be axed.
No it won't be cancelled, I think everyone will behave with more awarness of bulling, a real wake up for Strickly and its staff.
Yes it should be off our screens along with the BBC
Well , intressing i do believe ?? Amanda abbington I'm lead to believe has Danced before ie from a young age to 16 teen poss perform school and collage ?? She is a nice dancer
Let that lady on strictly toy agree with her...these are professional dancer's its their job...bloody snowflakes..that lady who went after gionnvani said it was like being in the tranches....are you serious
SHe has a history of mental instability. Only did the show to pay a tax bill and promote a new play
Amanda was so brave and correct, well done.
Let Yasmin speak whoever you are in blue. She is a very wise woman. You however are advocating abuse.
With respect -she's far from wise - - she offers very little substance to any debate except that sour face, that never changes - I would say her views and speech are concerning, to put it tactfully - her face would be more suited for radio.
@@gazXspace Well she gets to speak to thousands of people every day. You get to put rude comments on YT. I know who I'm listening to.
@@isking1715 It wasn't meant as plain rudeness - I tried to word it respectfully - she is very anti Britain across the board - this makes her radical ideology is problematic - this suits the vine show - I'm sorry but - she is not a very wise woman, that's nonsense.
@@gazXspace It's not nonsense, it's a matter of opinion. You have yours and I have mine. We'll agree to differ.
This woke crap is getting so ridiculous now - In over 300 partnerships we’ve had 4 that have now complained.. out of over 300 😂 If you don’t want to work hard, don’t do the show. Let me be clear - there’s no place for ACTUAL ABUSE but the kicking allegation is blatantly not true. And as for the idiot that fell and is now complaining - grow up!
So true, snowflakes. They know what they are letting themselves in for. I shan't watch it anymore.
@@paulinetaylor5536 They’re not all snowflakes.. I believe the Giovanni allegations - 5 of his partners have said he was abusive. My issue is that everyone’s now questioning harmless behaviour which actually does a disservice to the real victims.
There's a video of her being kicked what do you mean????
@@Red1Green2Blue3 She wasn’t literally booted.. he nudged her with his foot. Look at how the situation with Gio played out in comparison to Graziano. It’s completely different circumstances.
@@crazycatpetera1404 She was kicked. Another woman was sexually humiliated by him and he's blocking the video from being released. Why are you intent on defending an abuser?
It sickens me that these people come out of the woodwork years after the event (or not) and complain because all they can see is the £signs. If they had an issue, they should have addressed it there and then instead of waiting for someone else to open the flood gates and join in to ride the crest of the wave. Disgusting behaviour and cowardly to boot.
What do you mean? They're not suing, they're giving the BBC information for their investigation to see if there was a pattern of behaviour. I bet you said the same about the Saville victims.
@DameAnna
What £ signs? Nobody is suing.
I wonder why the fact these two are italian isn't being brought up as a reason...🤔🫠🙃
This is rubbish all this stuff the contestants need to be pushed what silly stuff this is they need to be tough kicking is not a big deal they are wimps
The woman in blue is on point
The woman in blue is on point