Thanks for the review. I am a long time Beast wearer and very partial to the Beast 20s. I'm hopeful the 24s will be wide enough in the toe box (based on your commentary). I am narrow in the mid, but need a roomy toe box (battled Hallux Limitus). Sometimes going to wides lead to other issues, like heel slip.
The Beast 20 were the first one's I tried and I still wear them. When the 23's came out I tried them on and I didn't think they were comfortable. Hoping these 24's are better.
The new Beast GTS 24 has the same midsole as the Beast GTS 23, so the cushioning and support will be the same. We have found the upper to fit similar to the 23, only it's slightly more forgiving. It's not significantly wider, but it does have a bit more play to it.
We will say the midsole on the 24 is the same as the 23, so the cushion and support will be identical. If you do plan to try them out, let us know what you think!
Thanks for watching! This is arguably the best stability shoe on the market, but it can be a bit too bulky for some runners. I will let our video guy know about the music.
Great review. This might be my next pair of sneakers. I do mostly walking (and I do play some tennis). I need a stability shoes due to arthritis in my ankle.
I swear my teammate at Western Michigan University, 1988-90 - he was a 28 min 10K runner and I swore he had Brooks Beast back then - he definitely trained in Brooks and I thought it was the Beast - he even did tempo and intervals in the show. Everyone else on the team ran in Nike.
I started my running in an old version of the Beast. While it is more tailored to walking nowadays with all the fancy new running technology out there, you can definitely still get away going for runs with the Beast.
2 things, I wear the women's gts 23 and it is great for my plantar fasciitis, and I can get them in a narrow size which is awesome.. Will these come in narrow sizes and upgrade from the gts 23. I have to watch the heel drop and can only wear narrow shoes which are very hard to find
Most definitely the darker colors are more popular for this shoe's respective category. However, it is a little sad to see some of the fun options go away.
I've seen videos on shoes/plantar fasciitis saying to avoid shoes with a high drop because it's causing/making worse the plantar fasciitis. Do you think this is true? And they recommend shoes with a very low or no drop.
We personally recommend the opposite. Plantar fasciitis occurs on the plantar fascia which is towards the heel of your foot. The lower heel drop can lead to putting extra pressure on the heel of your foot, leading to increased pain. Zero drop especially is known to promote a forefoot strike, which increases stress on your heel, calf, and Achilles tendon which can cause irritation to the plantar fascia. Of course, it is always best to choose what is most comfortable for your foot. If you are used to a lower heel drop and it works for you, there is no problem sticking with it.
Informative as always~😍 Want to ask a question. I have flat feet, tried some Brook's GTS models, and didn't really feel comfortable. The clerk suggested maybe I don't need that much stability, so I went with Ghost 15 instead. After wearing it for a couple of times (just for walking), my knees (both but mostly right) start to feel pain and sore on the outer side. I think I might have to give up the Ghost, but I want to know what might cause the issue so I could avoid buying the wrong shoes in the future. Thanks and keep up the good work. 👍🏻
We would recommend checking something with a softer cushioning that still has stability. The Beast might be too firm of a midsole, and it is known to be quite bulky, especially for a running trainer. If you want extra cushioning that is lighter than the Beast and a little more run friendly, we suggest giving the Glycerin GTS a shot. It has a softer midsole than the Beast, more cushion than the Ghost, and the added support for your feet to help keep your leg aligned. Similar shoes from other brands include the Mizuno Wave Horizon, Asics Gel-Kayano, Hoka Gaviota 5, and Altra Paradigm 7.
@@RunMoore Thanks for the advice; I guess I also need to work on strengthening my knees.😭😭 I actually did try to find Wave Horizon after seeing your video; sadly, a shop owner told me the series didn't seem to sell well in my country, so I can't try them out at a normal shop.
How does these compare to the Gel-kayano? I have very wide and very flat feet and have the Kayano 30’s which have been quite good, but I’m always open to trying something new if I might like it more. I had actually been eyeing the Beast 23 and then saw they just released this!
The biggest difference you will notice is the cushioning. The Brooks Beast has a much firmer, more supportive cushion. The Kayano 30 and 31 will have a softer, more plush cushioning. If you like the extra support from the firmer cushioning, we suggest sticking with what works and stay with the Beast. If you are craving something a little bit softer that still has great medial stability, definitely give the Kayano a try.
Hello Steve, I'm struggling choosing between this ones and the Ghost max 2. I'm not a huge runner. I'm looking for stable shoes with a lot of cushioning, since I weigh 200+ lbs. I tend to put almost all of my weight on the forefoot (I don't know if is better 6mm or 12mm of drop for my case. I'd take which are the best to reduce this tendence), I have orthopedic insoles and I need a re width. Any advice? I really don't know. Thanks as always for your precious reviews!
If you have a lot of forefoot issues, we suggest trying a lower heel drop shoe (6mm and below). The higher heel drop puts extra pressure on your forefoot so a shoe like the Beast will put added pressure on your forefoot because it has a 12mm heel drop. The Ghost Max 2 should work perfectly with your orthotics to keep you stable and off of your forefoot. While the Ghost Max doesn't have Brooks' GTS Guiderails, it has a straight last construction that makes them nice and stable.
I work on my feet 10 hours a day, just walking and standing, I'm a bigger guy and feel like I need support but with nice cushion. Right now I have two Brooks, the Ghost 16 and the Ghost Max 1. Both shoes were nice at first but after a few months they make the soles of my feet and heel hurt after a long day. Would you recommend the Beast instead or is there another shoe you'd recommend like Hoka's or NB? thanks! edit: I'm a 13 4E in most shoes so I need a wider toe box
If you are looking for support with nice cushioning, we recommend checking out the Hoka Gaviota 5 in a 2E. The Beast is a nice alternative; however, it is known to have a firmer cushion compared to a lot of other brands out there. With the Gaviota, it has a wider natural toebox so a 2E fits close to a 4E. It has a softer, more plush cushioning compared to brooks with added stability from Hoka's H-Frame technology. Another shoe to take a look at would be the Asics Gel Kayano (4E). It has a similar tall cushioning with added support and a softer foam.
@@RunMoore Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation! I was actually looking at the Gaviota, will definitely order a pair now. Appreciate the info and reply, love your videos and all the time and effort you put in to helping people.
They are both very similar shoes, classified as maximum stability. The main difference is that the Beast is firmer and slightly more stable, whereas the Wave Horizon is less stable and slightly softer.
Thanks for the review. I am a long time Beast wearer and very partial to the Beast 20s. I'm hopeful the 24s will be wide enough in the toe box (based on your commentary). I am narrow in the mid, but need a roomy toe box (battled Hallux Limitus). Sometimes going to wides lead to other issues, like heel slip.
The Beast 20 were the first one's I tried and I still wear them. When the 23's came out I tried them on and I didn't think they were comfortable. Hoping these 24's are better.
@@thinkblue8089 Same, 23s were more narrow in the toe box.
The new Beast GTS 24 has the same midsole as the Beast GTS 23, so the cushioning and support will be the same. We have found the upper to fit similar to the 23, only it's slightly more forgiving. It's not significantly wider, but it does have a bit more play to it.
Loved the 20s, really didn't like the 23s, hoping these are more comfortable!
We will say the midsole on the 24 is the same as the 23, so the cushion and support will be identical. If you do plan to try them out, let us know what you think!
Great review. As a stability runner nice to have this comparison. Background music is a little too loud making it harder to listen to you.
Thanks for watching! This is arguably the best stability shoe on the market, but it can be a bit too bulky for some runners. I will let our video guy know about the music.
@@RunMoore the music is driving me crazy!
Great review. This might be my next pair of sneakers. I do mostly walking (and I do play some tennis). I need a stability shoes due to arthritis in my ankle.
Thanks for watching! The Beast is a perfect shoe for arthritis specifically in the ankle because it's such a stable shoe.
Steve, great review as always but that backing music was making me want to scream! It was fighting your voice to be the centre of attention.
Thanks for letting me know. I will relay it to our video guy.
Funny, you said that. I had no issues with the music until I read your comment.
@@oneschance Not so much the music, the clicky percussion noise.
I swear my teammate at Western Michigan University, 1988-90 - he was a 28 min 10K runner and I swore he had Brooks Beast back then - he definitely trained in Brooks and I thought it was the Beast - he even did tempo and intervals in the show. Everyone else on the team ran in Nike.
I started my running in an old version of the Beast. While it is more tailored to walking nowadays with all the fancy new running technology out there, you can definitely still get away going for runs with the Beast.
2 things, I wear the women's gts 23 and it is great for my plantar fasciitis, and I can get them in a narrow size which is awesome.. Will these come in narrow sizes and upgrade from the gts 23. I have to watch the heel drop and can only wear narrow shoes which are very hard to find
Hi Steve, which are the differences between version 23 and version 24 ?. Are there big changes?
Other than an upper update, there hasn't been anything major updated to the midsole.
The darker colors are a major benefit over other stability shoes ,especially if you’re only using for walking,errands etc
Most definitely the darker colors are more popular for this shoe's respective category. However, it is a little sad to see some of the fun options go away.
@@RunMoore Color selection for Beast is historically garbage, especially for wide sizes.
I've seen videos on shoes/plantar fasciitis saying to avoid shoes with a high drop because it's causing/making worse the plantar fasciitis. Do you think this is true? And they recommend shoes with a very low or no drop.
We personally recommend the opposite. Plantar fasciitis occurs on the plantar fascia which is towards the heel of your foot. The lower heel drop can lead to putting extra pressure on the heel of your foot, leading to increased pain. Zero drop especially is known to promote a forefoot strike, which increases stress on your heel, calf, and Achilles tendon which can cause irritation to the plantar fascia. Of course, it is always best to choose what is most comfortable for your foot. If you are used to a lower heel drop and it works for you, there is no problem sticking with it.
Informative as always~😍
Want to ask a question. I have flat feet, tried some Brook's GTS models, and didn't really feel comfortable. The clerk suggested maybe I don't need that much stability, so I went with Ghost 15 instead. After wearing it for a couple of times (just for walking), my knees (both but mostly right) start to feel pain and sore on the outer side. I think I might have to give up the Ghost, but I want to know what might cause the issue so I could avoid buying the wrong shoes in the future. Thanks and keep up the good work. 👍🏻
We would recommend checking something with a softer cushioning that still has stability. The Beast might be too firm of a midsole, and it is known to be quite bulky, especially for a running trainer. If you want extra cushioning that is lighter than the Beast and a little more run friendly, we suggest giving the Glycerin GTS a shot. It has a softer midsole than the Beast, more cushion than the Ghost, and the added support for your feet to help keep your leg aligned. Similar shoes from other brands include the Mizuno Wave Horizon, Asics Gel-Kayano, Hoka Gaviota 5, and Altra Paradigm 7.
@@RunMoore Thanks for the advice; I guess I also need to work on strengthening my knees.😭😭 I actually did try to find Wave Horizon after seeing your video; sadly, a shop owner told me the series didn't seem to sell well in my country, so I can't try them out at a normal shop.
The Americans are masters. 🇺🇸
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How does these compare to the Gel-kayano? I have very wide and very flat feet and have the Kayano 30’s which have been quite good, but I’m always open to trying something new if I might like it more. I had actually been eyeing the Beast 23 and then saw they just released this!
The biggest difference you will notice is the cushioning. The Brooks Beast has a much firmer, more supportive cushion. The Kayano 30 and 31 will have a softer, more plush cushioning. If you like the extra support from the firmer cushioning, we suggest sticking with what works and stay with the Beast. If you are craving something a little bit softer that still has great medial stability, definitely give the Kayano a try.
Hello Steve, I'm struggling choosing between this ones and the Ghost max 2. I'm not a huge runner. I'm looking for stable shoes with a lot of cushioning, since I weigh 200+ lbs. I tend to put almost all of my weight on the forefoot (I don't know if is better 6mm or 12mm of drop for my case. I'd take which are the best to reduce this tendence), I have orthopedic insoles and I need a re width. Any advice? I really don't know. Thanks as always for your precious reviews!
If you have a lot of forefoot issues, we suggest trying a lower heel drop shoe (6mm and below). The higher heel drop puts extra pressure on your forefoot so a shoe like the Beast will put added pressure on your forefoot because it has a 12mm heel drop. The Ghost Max 2 should work perfectly with your orthotics to keep you stable and off of your forefoot. While the Ghost Max doesn't have Brooks' GTS Guiderails, it has a straight last construction that makes them nice and stable.
I work on my feet 10 hours a day, just walking and standing, I'm a bigger guy and feel like I need support but with nice cushion. Right now I have two Brooks, the Ghost 16 and the Ghost Max 1. Both shoes were nice at first but after a few months they make the soles of my feet and heel hurt after a long day. Would you recommend the Beast instead or is there another shoe you'd recommend like Hoka's or NB? thanks! edit: I'm a 13 4E in most shoes so I need a wider toe box
If you are looking for support with nice cushioning, we recommend checking out the Hoka Gaviota 5 in a 2E. The Beast is a nice alternative; however, it is known to have a firmer cushion compared to a lot of other brands out there. With the Gaviota, it has a wider natural toebox so a 2E fits close to a 4E. It has a softer, more plush cushioning compared to brooks with added stability from Hoka's H-Frame technology. Another shoe to take a look at would be the Asics Gel Kayano (4E). It has a similar tall cushioning with added support and a softer foam.
@@RunMoore Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation! I was actually looking at the Gaviota, will definitely order a pair now. Appreciate the info and reply, love your videos and all the time and effort you put in to helping people.
How does the beast compare to the Mizuno wave horizon
They are both very similar shoes, classified as maximum stability. The main difference is that the Beast is firmer and slightly more stable, whereas the Wave Horizon is less stable and slightly softer.
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@@khm916lol I know. I was kidding. It’s from my cousin Vinny.
Beast is the better name.
It was the original name so we are more partial towards the Beast.