Both the NovaBlast 4 and the Ghost Max 2 are perfect for heavier individuals. The NovaBlast 4 is overall a bit more comfortable to me because it is lighter and disappears on my feet a bit more. You will need to get either shoe in a wide size, since both toe boxes are a bit narrow. The Ghost Max 2 has a bit wider toe box than the NovaBlast 4 toe box. Both Brooks and Asics have good return policies, so if one shoe does not fit after trying it on and walking around, it can be returned. Both Asics and Brooks return policies are 90 days, but Brooks return policy is better. Asics return policy says the item needs to be "unworn" but Brooks return policy says wear around, use it and run in it and if it does not work out, you can return it.
Saucony shoulda called the Triumph 22 a Triumph Max, Like the Ghost Max, because it's not a Triumph like the 20/21. They've ruined a really good shoe, when they coulda kept both.
I have seen some reviews saying that about the Triumph 22's being so different than the 21's. I have two pairs of Saucony's Triumph 21 and Endorphin Speed 3's and like them both a lot. And for my Speed 3's, I think they are more stable than my NB 1080 v13's, even though they are considered more of a speed shoe. I like Saucony a lot, along with Asics and now the Ghost Max 2. NB has some soft and bouncy midsoles, but their stability has been hit or miss and on some of their shoes the toe box has been too short (NB Fuel Cell Propel v5 an example).
I have a pair of all black Triumph 21's and like them. Think they are a very good shoe with some bounce. For some reason these Novablast 4's feel overall great for my needs and I like that little pop (mini trampoline pop). Midsole may feel different for other people, but at my weight 190 lbs and what I use them for they are almost a perfect feeling midsole to me.
I have a plantar plate injury and was advised to run in a less flexible, rocker forefoot shoe with the lowest drop possible. I own the Brooks Ghost Max V1, and I was able to run in it when it was new. However, after reaching 60 km, it began to break in and became softer and more flexible, which caused pain in my forefoot. Now, I can only use it as a walking shoe. How much stiffer is the forefoot in the Brooks Ghost Max V2 compared to the V1? Currently, I run in the Adidas Boston 12, which has an EnergyRods structure in the forefoot that prevents bending. I also find V1 the outsole a bit thin; it started to wear down after 60 km, and now it's touching the midsole.
The feel of the Ghost Max 2 insole vs the Ghost Max 1 is that the GM2 insole feels denser and a little bit stiffer to me. I do have a pair of Adidas Boston 10's, so I know what you mean about the stiffness with the energy rods. The Adidas Boston 10's feel a bit stiffer to me than the GM2 insole, but the Boston 10's feel lighter on my feet vs the GM2. I am not sure about how or if the GM2 insole will start to break in, since the GM2 insole is a DNA Loft v3 and feels denser, but a bit bouncier vs DNA Loft 2 (GM1). Another shoe to possibly consider is the soon to be released Asics Glideride Max, which will have a 6mm drop, stiff and aggressive front rocker. Will be $170 USD on Asics and link to the shoe is www.asics.com/us/en-us/glideride-max/p/ANA_1011B891-001.html
@@Decisions4u Thank you for the information. I didn't know that Asics had released a new GlideRide model. I checked some information online, and one of the top recommended shoes is the GlideRide 3. However, I couldn't find this shoe in my country. I watched some TH-cam reviews of the GlideRide Max, and it seems much softer than the GlideRide 3. It uses a more flexible forefoot plate and might be even softer than the Nimbus 25, which I can't wear because it's too soft for me. Anyway, I ordered the Altra Olympus to see if it fits my foot condition. If it doesn't, I'll return it
Of these two - ghost max 2 and novablast, which one feels more stable laterally? I’m also going to try both of these - they’re coming Monday. Also, would you say the cushion is the same?
About same stability laterally for me, even though the Ghost Max 2 stack height feels higher on my feet. The Novablast 4 advantage over the Ghost Max 2 is it feels lighter and disappears more on my feet while wearing.
@@mystergoode both have about same amount of cushion feel, but different. To me Ghost Max 2 feels a little bit denser than Novablast 4. I think the star of the Ghost Max 2 is its front rocker feel.
@@Decisions4u that helps a lot! Sounds like both are pretty equal in terms of comfort but it comes down to feel of your stride. I just hope one is a clear winner over the other. I have a size 14 and in between widths - I’ve bought and returned TWENTY shoes so I’m praying between these two, I’ll have my pair. Thanks for your reply!
@@4my4mykaren the ASICS NovaBlast 4 has a bit more energy return/ and feels more poppy than the Ghost Max 2. The Ghost Max 2 has a nice forefoot rocker which I like but the NovaBlast 4 is a faster, more poppy feeling and lighter shoe.
I would like to try the NB More v5, seems like a max cushion stable shoe, but unfortunately, I don't have a pair of the More v5's or any other of the More versions.
Both the NovaBlast 4 and the Ghost Max 2 are perfect for heavier individuals. The NovaBlast 4 is overall a bit more comfortable to me because it is lighter and disappears on my feet a bit more. The NovaBlast 4 has a bit more bounce (trampoline effect) vs the Ghost Max 2 more of a roll forward (front rocker) feel. I like both of these two shoes a lot for all day wear comfort. You will need to get either shoe in a wide size, since both toe boxes are a bit narrow. The Ghost Max 2 has a bit wider toe box than the NovaBlast 4 toe box. Both Brooks and Asics have good return policies, so if one shoe does not fit after trying it on and walking around, it can be returned. Both Asics and Brooks return policies are 90 days, but Brooks return policy is better. Asics return policy says the item needs to be "unworn" but Brooks return policy says wear around, use it and run in it and if it does not work out, you can return it.
Do u feel that the ghost max 2 is a bit short in length? I read some reviews that its a bit short and toes touch the end of the shoe in your normal running shoe size
May be for some people, I wear a men's size 11 regular, and my toes are not touching but are close to the end of the toe box but has not been an issue for me. I do notice that when I wear the Ghost Max 1 there is a little more distance to the end of the toe box. The Ghost Max 2 and Asics NovaBlast 4 are still my two favorite go to every day wear shoes. The plus of the NovaBlast 4 is that they are lighter and disappear on my foot more than the Ghost Max 2, but the NovaBlast 4 toe box is narrower than that Ghost Max 2, so a wide NovaBlast 4 for me is a great fit. I do feel the Ghost Max 2 is a bit better walking around shoe, because of the front rocker feel that I like, but the non-gusseted Ghost Max 2 tongue annoys me some. I wear the Saucony Triumph 21's too, but not as much as the NovaBlast 4 or Ghost Max 2.
@@Decisions4u do have any experience with glycerin 21 cause I have the glycerin in size US 10 and wide(2e) wondering if i should go for the same size in ghost max 2
@@ahmaadulhassanbajwa9906 my wife has a pair of the Glycerin 21 and she said it has a wider feeling toe box than most her other shoes. She usually wears a wide but the Glycerin’s fit her fine in medium width. She tried a Ghost Max 2 in both medium & wide and the medium Max width was too tight for her. So, if you wear a wide in the Glycerin’s I would definitely get wide in the Ghost Max 2
Good to hear from an average guy and not an INFLUENCER! Thanyou
@@Optimization_Coach thank you
Both the NovaBlast 4 and the Ghost Max 2 are perfect for heavier individuals. The NovaBlast 4 is overall a bit more comfortable to me because it is lighter and disappears on my feet a bit more. You will need to get either shoe in a wide size, since both toe boxes are a bit narrow. The Ghost Max 2 has a bit wider toe box than the NovaBlast 4 toe box. Both Brooks and Asics have good return policies, so if one shoe does not fit after trying it on and walking around, it can be returned. Both Asics and Brooks return policies are 90 days, but Brooks return policy is better. Asics return policy says the item needs to be "unworn" but Brooks return policy says wear around, use it and run in it and if it does not work out, you can return it.
@@Decisions4u Great. Thanks a lot
@@Decisions4u does the Asics gel kayano 31 have a wider toe box?
@@ahmaadulhassanbajwa9906 Unfortunately, I am not sure about the Asics Gel Kayano's, I have never owned one.
@@Decisions4u okay 👍
@@ahmaadulhassanbajwa9906 Welcome
Saucony shoulda called the Triumph 22 a Triumph Max, Like the Ghost Max, because it's not a Triumph like the 20/21. They've ruined a really good shoe, when they coulda kept both.
I have seen some reviews saying that about the Triumph 22's being so different than the 21's. I have two pairs of Saucony's Triumph 21 and Endorphin Speed 3's and like them both a lot. And for my Speed 3's, I think they are more stable than my NB 1080 v13's, even though they are considered more of a speed shoe. I like Saucony a lot, along with Asics and now the Ghost Max 2. NB has some soft and bouncy midsoles, but their stability has been hit or miss and on some of their shoes the toe box has been too short (NB Fuel Cell Propel v5 an example).
Triumphs are a tad firm at the start, and their outsoles are TOUGH.
Novablast 1 was so ridiculously unstable, I never went back for subsequent iterations.
The Novablast 4's were my first Novablasts that I tried, but I did hear that previous Novablast iterations were unstable.
I have a pair of all black Triumph 21's and like them. Think they are a very good shoe with some bounce. For some reason these Novablast 4's feel overall great for my needs and I like that little pop (mini trampoline pop). Midsole may feel different for other people, but at my weight 190 lbs and what I use them for they are almost a perfect feeling midsole to me.
I have a plantar plate injury and was advised to run in a less flexible, rocker forefoot shoe with the lowest drop possible. I own the Brooks Ghost Max V1, and I was able to run in it when it was new. However, after reaching 60 km, it began to break in and became softer and more flexible, which caused pain in my forefoot. Now, I can only use it as a walking shoe.
How much stiffer is the forefoot in the Brooks Ghost Max V2 compared to the V1? Currently, I run in the Adidas Boston 12, which has an EnergyRods structure in the forefoot that prevents bending. I also find V1 the outsole a bit thin; it started to wear down after 60 km, and now it's touching the midsole.
The feel of the Ghost Max 2 insole vs the Ghost Max 1 is that the GM2 insole feels denser and a little bit stiffer to me. I do have a pair of Adidas Boston 10's, so I know what you mean about the stiffness with the energy rods. The Adidas Boston 10's feel a bit stiffer to me than the GM2 insole, but the Boston 10's feel lighter on my feet vs the GM2. I am not sure about how or if the GM2 insole will start to break in, since the GM2 insole is a DNA Loft v3 and feels denser, but a bit bouncier vs DNA Loft 2 (GM1). Another shoe to possibly consider is the soon to be released Asics Glideride Max, which will have a 6mm drop, stiff and aggressive front rocker. Will be $170 USD on Asics and link to the shoe is www.asics.com/us/en-us/glideride-max/p/ANA_1011B891-001.html
@@Decisions4u Thank you for the information. I didn't know that Asics had released a new GlideRide model. I checked some information online, and one of the top recommended shoes is the GlideRide 3. However, I couldn't find this shoe in my country. I watched some TH-cam reviews of the GlideRide Max, and it seems much softer than the GlideRide 3. It uses a more flexible forefoot plate and might be even softer than the Nimbus 25, which I can't wear because it's too soft for me. Anyway, I ordered the Altra Olympus to see if it fits my foot condition. If it doesn't, I'll return it
Of these two - ghost max 2 and novablast, which one feels more stable laterally? I’m also going to try both of these - they’re coming Monday.
Also, would you say the cushion is the same?
About same stability laterally for me, even though the Ghost Max 2 stack height feels higher on my feet. The Novablast 4 advantage over the Ghost Max 2 is it feels lighter and disappears more on my feet while wearing.
@@mystergoode both have about same amount of cushion feel, but different. To me Ghost Max 2 feels a little bit denser than Novablast 4. I think the star of the Ghost Max 2 is its front rocker feel.
@@Decisions4u that helps a lot! Sounds like both are pretty equal in terms of comfort but it comes down to feel of your stride. I just hope one is a clear winner over the other. I have a size 14 and in between widths - I’ve bought and returned TWENTY shoes so I’m praying between these two, I’ll have my pair. Thanks for your reply!
does the ghost max 2 has better energy return? More Poppy?
@@4my4mykaren the ASICS NovaBlast 4 has a bit more energy return/ and feels more poppy than the Ghost Max 2. The Ghost Max 2 has a nice forefoot rocker which I like but the NovaBlast 4 is a faster, more poppy feeling and lighter shoe.
All black theme
Yes, I also have pair of Saucony Triumph 21 and Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 and both in all black too.
Can you compare the More to the Ghost Max 2?
I would like to try the NB More v5, seems like a max cushion stable shoe, but unfortunately, I don't have a pair of the More v5's or any other of the More versions.
U like the black shoes like I do.
Yes, I guess I do. I also have a pair of Saucony Triumph 21's and Saucony Endorphin Speed 3's (RS Rain Shield edition) and they are also in black.
Which one is better for heavy individuals with wide feet about 10.6 cm in width? I am looking to buy novablast in wide option
Both the NovaBlast 4 and the Ghost Max 2 are perfect for heavier individuals. The NovaBlast 4 is overall a bit more comfortable to me because it is lighter and disappears on my feet a bit more. The NovaBlast 4 has a bit more bounce (trampoline effect) vs the Ghost Max 2 more of a roll forward (front rocker) feel. I like both of these two shoes a lot for all day wear comfort. You will need to get either shoe in a wide size, since both toe boxes are a bit narrow. The Ghost Max 2 has a bit wider toe box than the NovaBlast 4 toe box. Both Brooks and Asics have good return policies, so if one shoe does not fit after trying it on and walking around, it can be returned. Both Asics and Brooks return policies are 90 days, but Brooks return policy is better. Asics return policy says the item needs to be "unworn" but Brooks return policy says wear around, use it and run in it and if it does not work out, you can return it.
Do u feel that the ghost max 2 is a bit short in length? I read some reviews that its a bit short and toes touch the end of the shoe in your normal running shoe size
May be for some people, I wear a men's size 11 regular, and my toes are not touching but are close to the end of the toe box but has not been an issue for me. I do notice that when I wear the Ghost Max 1 there is a little more distance to the end of the toe box. The Ghost Max 2 and Asics NovaBlast 4 are still my two favorite go to every day wear shoes. The plus of the NovaBlast 4 is that they are lighter and disappear on my foot more than the Ghost Max 2, but the NovaBlast 4 toe box is narrower than that Ghost Max 2, so a wide NovaBlast 4 for me is a great fit. I do feel the Ghost Max 2 is a bit better walking around shoe, because of the front rocker feel that I like, but the non-gusseted Ghost Max 2 tongue annoys me some. I wear the Saucony Triumph 21's too, but not as much as the NovaBlast 4 or Ghost Max 2.
@@Decisions4u do have any experience with glycerin 21 cause I have the glycerin in size US 10 and wide(2e) wondering if i should go for the same size in ghost max 2
@@Decisions4u thanks a lot👍
@@ahmaadulhassanbajwa9906 my wife has a pair of the Glycerin 21 and she said it has a wider feeling toe box than most her other shoes. She usually wears a wide but the Glycerin’s fit her fine in medium width. She tried a Ghost Max 2 in both medium & wide and the medium Max width was too tight for her. So, if you wear a wide in the Glycerin’s I would definitely get wide in the Ghost Max 2
@@Decisions4u thank you