The problem is that was never explained in the show so anyone who hasn’t read the books would be lost on the significance of it. This show is relying way too much on people being familiar with the source material.
@@Creek932 It's pretty clear on the show. There's the Medusa story, of course, and then there's the scene at the arch where Annabeth says that the arch is immune to earthquakes so Poseidon can't destroy it
@@Creek932it’s a big part of Greek mythology in general, not just from the book series. I think it’s safe to assume that anyone invested in this show would have some general knowledge of Greek mythology, or would have at least looked some things up afterwards :)
The thunderclap being a constant reminder for Poseidon that he cannot be doing anymore than talk to Sally because he knows the consequences. He knows Zeus is watching him and he knows what he'll do if he does just like what he's done in the past.
I see people saying this, but wouldn’t Zeus have blamed him for stealing the bolt before Poseidon claimed him? I think Poseidon is staying away so that Zeus doesn’t know he has a son, yet. Edit: The gods only exist where their names are called/where their realm of influence resides. So Zeus could be in multiple areas of air and space at once, but not know what is happening in the realm of Poseidon. A lot of the gods know stuff through the series because word spreads fast from Camp Half Blood.
@@frankito1122 Nah, it’s definitely Zeus reminding Poseidon not to get too involved. The way Poseidon sighed when that thunder sounded while he was considering whether or not he should talk to Percy? Definitely Zeus.
@@mrs.manrique7411 my first thought when that thunderclap hit was that, then I thought about this. I wonder how Zeus could have known any more than how he could've known about Maria di Angelo. And Hades probably had his kids before the pact. But maybe it still made sense because this was before the theft. Hades already sent Alecto to find Percy before he was even claimed and Zeus also blamed him for the bolt. So maybe they already knew and Sally just somehow managed to hide him and keep him away for that much long until that happened.
The actor who played Poseidon is Toby Stevens who happens to be Dame Maggie Smith’s son! (I know, I’m surprised too) I think a lot of people saw Poseidon and immediately be like “Sally we totally understand you now.”
I just found out he was her son the other day. I knew him from the And Then There Were None adaptation and looked up what else he'd been in. Mind was blown.
A small detail I love; earlier in the show, Luke says you have to burn something important as an offering for the gods if you want them to listen. (I don’t know how he exactly says it but it’s something like that). But here, Sally offers a half empty milkshake that wasn’t even hers and Poseidon shows up almost immediately. Also I think we like Poseidon from that one scene because it’s very evident he cares about Sally and Percy. He’s there as soon as she asks, he lets her vent her frustrations that she can’t vent to anyone else, he doesn’t tell her what to do and only asks her what she wants. He also clearly wants to talk to Percy but knows he can’t because of the rules the gods placed. Like, obviously Poseidon isn’t a good dad, but it feels like he wants to be, especially because Percy is his only demigod kid. Like this guy broke his oath with his brothers just to be with Sally, it makes sense why he’d still care for her and Percy.
he also holds back from talking with Percy after the thunderclap. Who rules the sky and has power over lightning and thunder? Zeus. The thunder was like a warning.
Also, In the first episode we see Sally in the rain in the apartment after finishing making Percy's welcome gift with the blue candies. I think it's possible to connect this scene with that one and assume that Poseidon also spoke to her when she learned that Percy needed to go to camp
@@user-pt5cl2ro6fwhat? Zeus is the God of The Sky, Lightning, and Thunder. Poseidon is God of The Sea, Storms, Earthquakes, and Horses. So yes the Thunder is Zeus
everyone every time you compare something to a different fandom: "I can't. Not again. Im not... strong enough..." also, it speaks volumes about their relationship that Sally made the most half-assed offering ever, and Poseidon _immediately_ came in person to talk to her
With only the info you already have on the episodes lemme explain what Percy figured out to help ya, no spoilers - Percy dreamed of the lightning thief being scolded by Kronos, the voldemort dude, for having been caught and loosing it all even though kronos gave them all the tools to succeed. And warning them not to do so again. Also, when Anabeth mentions to Luke what they figured out, she explains Groover managed to take out of Ares that he KNEW who the lightning thief was, but was covering for them for some reason. A.K.A. - Ares actually found the lightning thief, and captured them and the things they stole (Hades' helm and the Bolt) and kept for himself. When he noticed Percy and his quest, he gave Percy an enchanted backpack, which would be the location where he could teleport the bolt into when the time came. That time being, when Percy got close to Tartarus (the big pit, where kronos is dead and in pieces). All because he wanted the war to happen between the three eldest ones. Hades never knew or had anything to do with it, Olympus and everyone just thought he did because of the usual myths and stereotype. Kronos, if you dont recall, is the titan king, father of zeus and the olympians, and sire of Time. Also maybe why he is on dunes, like those old hourglasses. He ate all the olyimpians when they were born, because of a profecy that they'd dethrone him one day. Zeus was spared, and then crafter a weapon to slice his father to pieces and save his siblings, hence becoming the king of gods. Ergo why Kronos has the biggest grudge of them all. Also, on a different side-note, the thunder when Posseidon considers talking to percy is Zeus, warning him he is watching, hence Posseidon stopping the moment it echoes.
nope, Percy saw kronos talking to the thief in the same office he was expelled from school at in the first episode. As Kronos is talking in dreams to the thief and Percy, each likely saw the location as a place they knew.@@jamfronk6387 In the same logic, if you look into it, the person Kronos was is the school principal who expelled him as well. Kronos was just pupeteering the figure from Percy's memory
If you'd like, I can clear up some of your confusion with this episodes with only information you already know :) 1. Annabeth escaped the Asphodel tree by using her pearl. it transported her away from the roots that were growing around her. Fun fact: this was a show original concept. Asphodel was simply portrayed as a large crowd of lost souls in the book, and the kids stayed together in the end. It's an interesting addition for several reasons. 2. What we know about the lightning thief so far, and how it was stolen: -Kronos, the person who's been taunting Percy in his dreams, is the one who wanted the bolt stolen. -In one of Percy's more recent dreams, Kronos was talking to the thief and chided them for loosing it. -Ares was sent out by Zeus to find the bolt. He found Percy and his friends and sent Percabeth on what should've been a death quest for one of them, and then afterwards gave them the backpack that Percy would later find the bolt in. -The bolt seems to have not been in the backpack the whole time. Otherwise Percy would've probably found it before now. However, it appeared in the bag just before he and Grover were nearly pulled into Tartarus. -Hades appears to be clueless to the bolt's theft. He, like most of the rest of the gods, assumes Percy stole it. He has deduced that if Percy stole the bolt, he must've also stolen his Helm of Darkness, which went missing just before the bolt was stolen on the winter solstice. He believes that Percy stole his Helm, which allows the wearer to become invisible, and used it to steal the bolt. He took Sally hostage with the intention of trading her life for his Helm. -On the winter solstice, Camp Half-Blood took a field trip to Olympus. It's believed that one of the demigods who was there one day is responsible for the Helm and bolt's disappearance. It's also clear that whoever is responsible is serving Kronos. -Eons ago, Kronos was the most revered deity and ate his kids to ensure his eternal rule. Zeus managed to rescue his siblings from his stomach and chop him into pieces anyway, and then threw those pieces into Tartarus. -Kronos seems to want a war between the gods, and it's presumed that he also has some sort of plan to rise from Tartarus, but we have no idea how, and neither to the characters. -Ares was waiting for the kids on the beach with a Big Heckin Sword (TM) and probably intends to silence them before they can return to Olympus and tell the other gods what they know. Love your reaction, can't wait for next week, you're gonna love it!!!
The thing about the winter solstice and how the thief stole it was already hinted in episode 5. Most of it was heavily shown in that episode. Now the trio just needs to piece it altogether. And ask him more about the bolt
About Procrustes: in the ancient times, he was a man who pretended to be a gentle host, but he actually killed his guests (Ancient Greeks had a whole thing about hospitality. Mistreating a guest was as bad a crime as mistreating family). Procrustes had a set of beds, some of which were too small, others too large. He would place weary travelers on his beds and, if they were too large for his small beds, he would cut off the extremities that projected out of the bed. If, however, they were too small for the large beds, he would stretch them out till their bones broke. He ended up being killed by the hero Theseus. Also, as a sidenote: when it was announced that James Bobin was going to be involved in the making of this show, I actually thought that he was going to cast Sacha Baron Cohen as Procrustes, because they have collaborated in the past, and Procrustes is exactly the type of character Baron Cohen always plays. Turns out it's not him, it's an actor called Julian Richings, who has done a LOT of stuff.
Grover got so stressed out in this episode. He wasn't having it aside from the fact that he's been inside one of the three headed dog's mouth, but underworld/underground is just not his style as most satyrs would feel. They belong among the nature and not anything dark and gloomy or eerie.
so, for the confusion: the helm of darkness is a helmet hades has, can turn you invisible. it went missing a few days before the bolt did, whomever took it used it to steal the bolt. that's why hades took sally, he wanted the helm back. he doesn't care about the bolt, he also doesn't want a war bc that would mean more dead people and the underworld is overcrowded as is the bolt appeared magically in percy's bag that he got from ares the moment him and grover got close to the tartarus pit *where kronos is exiled in a million pieces*
Crusty's actor was og death on supernatural and the only actor that was also in the *awful* Percy Jackson movies! he was Charon, who crosses people over the river Styx in the underworld
That's actually a fun easter egg that he played a guardian to the entrance to the underworld in both cases. And Rick said he was trying to keep everything separate from the movies by not having cameos, but I don't think this is a big enough role to really matter, so that's kind of interesting that this is the one exception.
In the span of 9 months filming according to one of the producer's post Walker grew fron 5'1 to 5'7 ...and in interviews the cast has done recently he got even taller than Aryan and way taller than Leah
I'm so ready for the Ares fight with Percy. It's something that I've always wanted to see from the books and it's finally happening. In the books, he actually trash talked him into fighting, you'll know why he'll challenge Ares in the next episode. Or at least Percy will get to confront and interrogate him first before they fight.
I lovee all the actor choices for the gods. They do their part so well. Toby Stephens who plays Poseidon is such an incredible charismatic actor(fun fact he is also a son of Maggie Smith who played professor McGonagall in Harry Potter movies). He was in a James Bond movie, Black Sails, Jane Eyre(2006 one I believe) and many other works. What's interesting about the Underwold and its design is that the creators wanted to show kinda nothingness of it. Like its some foggy place where you can see no end and its kinda genius to reflect it that way cuz I assume it will drive domeone crazy. And Hades' domain is a reflection of the Olympus only upside down.
Only one episode left of Percy Jackson (season 1) 2023 hopefully we'll get like seasons 2, 3, 4 & 5 each adapting the other 4 books in the Percy Jackson series.
To ease your confusion if you recall that the end of the episode with Ares before he put them in the trailer with the animals he gave Percy a bag full of supplies but they never opened it until now
Poseidon is played by Toby Stephens an amazing actor in a whole bunch of fun stuff, my personal favourite being Black Sails. Also fun fact, he's Maggie Smith's Son
How it worked in the book is that the bag ares gave them is a magical object that acts as a sheath for the master bolt, kinda like percy’s sword in pen form. Basically the master bolt was magically tied to the bag and appeared inside only as they were about to get dragged into the pit
I so strongly recommend Black Sails to you if you enjoyed Poseidon as he is the main character of that show. Not only that, but Medusa's actress, the voice in Percy's dream, the showrunners, and the composer all worked on Black Sails as well.
I've been following your commentaries/reaction videos on the Percy Jackson show for weeks now and I'm loving your attention to the details!! You notice things that I, a book-reader, have not because sometimes I'm too focused on book-to-show plot accuracy😂 I just gotta say, I can understand your confusion. You do have all the pieces of the puzzle, you just haven't put them together (that's where the "...kind of" comes in lol)! Though I do encourage you to wait until the finale comes out because it'll be absolutely epic seeing the full picture/implications😄❤️
Cronus didn`t steal the Master Bolt someone else did, he just wants the Bolt so he can Overthrow his Son (Zeus) and take his Throne back. As for Ares he is the god of war so having a war between the gods would definitely benefit him.
I love this show because it actually gives a proper view of Hades as a character. Pretty much all of pop culture displays Hades as Satan, but he's actually the least petty and most reasonable of the Greek gods. Hercules has to kidnap Cerberus? Hades: "Fine, just don't hurt my dog." Orpheus comes down to retrieve his wife? Hades: "Fine, but you can't look back at her on the way up. Otherwise she stays in the Underworld." He doesn't care for Olympian politics or power struggles because all mortals wind up in his realm at the end. He does still have a knack for inventive punishments, and he does have his pride, but ultimately, he's... just kind of a cool dude.
Annabeth used the pearl to escape the fields of asphodel. the nereid had said in the previous episode when she handed percy the pearls that 'what belongs to the sea can always return" so when they used the pearls to get out of the underworld they ended up back at the beach in santa monica i assume. and since annabeth left first she was probably waiting at the beach there for them.
I would state that they returned to Montauk because we see the lighthouse behind Ares that is there, not Santa Monica because we do not see the Santa Monica pier or the Ferris wheel which we saw from the beach in episode 6 before Percy went into the Ocean so they made changes to where they are sent to the beach Percy’s parents met and it saves time for them to travel back to NY . I don’t mind that change
Andre in comments mentioned it but julian richings plays crusty , and he is the only actor from the movie who is in the show (he was charon the ferryman ) and he was death in supernatural , and in umbrella academy hes a hotel manager at "oblivion" . Them changing it to crusty guarding the underworld and casting him was perfect
Definitely a great choice. The changes from the book were perfect for a child friendly contemporary adaptation. We don’t wanna see kids in bondage on a bed, we want to meet brothers and sister of Percy to introduce us to next season, and recording studios are kinda rare, now, ssooo that wouldn’t have translated so well for younger audiences. Then they got right to the meat of the episode, making Annabeth suspicious to a lot of viewers. 💕 Perfection!
@@mrs.manrique7411 my only regret is they didnt add the jokes about adding the cost of payment to the underworld to your last cable bill , or percy asking hades to give charon a raise lol but the procustus thing was great
Jacqui making the Persassy joke when the fandom has been calling him that for decades lmaaaoo I love how intune shes getting with the fandom already. And no shame in the confusion, it was a big twist in the book too! Thought, tbh, the book had a lot of better foreshadowing slow build, its a bit rushed and choppy here in the show. But either way, your confusion will hopefully be alleviated by the finale :) Also, yes!! Poseidon's actor did great for immediately endearing him to us. In the book, Percy had less distaste for his father and the gods in general, but i dont mind it here in the show. Its good comparison for his narrative foil :3333 Thought it has been hard seeing all the Poseidon hate, because hes great in the books
I’m sorry 😩 Unfortunately, I got hit with what I now call the “January Jinx,” and my schedule just got constantly thrown off post new year 😅 PJO was supposed to be Thursdays, but this month has been hopeless 😂
@@movienightwithjacquihaha, no problem, I would watch whenever. I don’t know if I could be as disciplined as you. 😅 You’re doing a GREAT job! 💕 Kronos (chronology, Father Time, Saturn, Grim Reaper) is in pieces to represent the division of time in seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, moons(months), seasons, years. He’s at the bottom of a sand pit like sand in a time turner. The solstice has already passed (in the show) to represent that Kronos has already won, at least in some small way. Kronos eats his children like time eats away at our lives. The gods have successfully tamed time because they are immortal, but even then they cannot stop it from flowing continually. I hope to be like Percy where I can say confidently, “We’re all dying,” without fear or regrets.
7:22 hilarious that you came to a nickname that the Percy Jackson community loves to use on your own. I think that’s a testimony to how well Percy’s character is portrayed
The seen with Poseidon BROKE ME. And "do you want to talk to him" with Poseidons expression RIPPED MY HEART OUT, STOMPED ON IT, AND PROCEEDED TO SPAT ON IT. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I'm not entirely sure how Percy knew that the sand pit was Tartarus, but besides that this episode was phenomenal! Even as someone who's read this book more times than I can count, it was still full of surprises and excitement!
I think he just pieced it altogether at that moment that he realized that wasn't Hades' voice in his dreams. And Hades definitely wouldn't call him out of all places in the underworld in those sands because he has a palace. And assuming he kept the myths in mind + Ares infodumping him on ep5. They even found it weird Cerberus stopped chasing them after that.
@@ghostingbusiness4338 Oh I'm sure he did, and the train of thought he had was completely logical, but it just wasn't presented to the audience. If that's what they were going for, fine, but it just rubbed me the wrong way when I first watched the episode
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the giant hole lol. Even if he didn't know it was tartarus, there is really only 1 very significant giant pitfall in greek mythology. And he's been thinking abt it since episode 2. Gonna click eventually. If it was Annabeth it probably would've clicked earlier lol, so him being a bit slow is in character.
@@Reidlos1773 I could see why the non book readers would be confused. But I did look back into it on Disney plus and they did have a recap of the plot, starting with Ares explaining how Zeus defeated Kronos right before they get into the episode. So maybe that kinda puts it together without it actually making it a bit obvious and on the nose for the reveal
I was so proud when you said persassy lol. It’s a old meme from the fandom when the books were coming out. Had a stupid lil cartoon Percy n everything😂
“I’m gonna have so much brightening to do in the edit.” Thank you so much because I can actually see in your reactions!😂 why do they make everything so dark? I once paused the show on a dark scene and forgot it was on because I couldn’t see anything!
Okay spoiler free breakdown. Firstly, Yes, you are supposed to be confused. BUT here is a spoiler free breakdown. Zeus gets his master bolt stolen and assumes that Poseidon had someone steal it from him because gods cant steal from each other they generally have demigods do all that work by giving them quests. So Zeus assumes that poseidon stole his bolt he isnt sure how his brother stole it until he learns that poseidon had broken the pact they had made and had a son which is Percy. Once zeus learns about percy he instantly assumes that poseidon had his son steal the bolt for him. poseidon on the other hand who had been keeping his distance from percy because he wasnt even supposed to be born in the first place, claims percy and has him go on the quest to retrieve the bolt from the person everyone assumes stole it. i.e HADES, so that he can avoid a war with his brother. Now we know that gods cant steal from each other directly so if hades stole the bolt then that would mean he had someone do it for him. percy and the gang dont know who but they assume that the person had already stolen and given it to hades so all they had to do was go to the underworld get it from him and in the process percy wants to get his mom back. On their way to the underworld, they meet ares who grover thinks is covering for the lightning thief, his daughter clarisse. they assume clarisse stole the bolt and gave it to hades so that poseidon and zeus would have a war and since her father likes wars he would be pleased with her. makes sense right? they get to the underworld and they almost get dragged down to tartarus the big hole in the desert place percy has been dreaming about throughout the series, the bolt appears in their bag and they realise that Hades didnt steal the bolt, in fact he had something stolen from him and since zeus had said that percy stole his bolt, hades assumed that percy had stolen his helm of darkness and used it to turn invisible so he could steal the bolt. So to get his stuff back he takes percy's mom expecting to lure percy to the underworld so he could trade his mom for his helm. Percy realises that the person talking to him in his dreams was kronos all this time and not hades. so was ares the actual villain? did clarisse just steal the bolt for her dad so he could have a war? how does kronos fit into all this? like is said, yes, you are suppossed to be confused🤣🤣
I can’t believe no one is mentioning her new realization that Percy is called Persassy. One of my favorite nicknames for him, right after the classic seaweed brain
Annabeth had her pearl, and that's how she escaped the underworld. Remember the nereid told Percy 'what belongs to the sea will always return to the sea.' The pearls came from the sea, so they returned the trio to the sea.
The fact Persassy has been a common nickname since the release of the first book, even mentioned several times in the books, and you thought of it by yourself is very funny to me
for context on the backpack: you’ll notice Ares hands it to percy right before they get into the truck at the end of episode 5! and it was an enchanted bag, so the bolt only appeared inside once they were near Tartarus (the pit)!
In the book, Ares explains that Zeus sent his children out to find the Lightning Thief after the Bolt's theft was discovered. He actually DID catch the guy, but Kronos intervened and convinced Ares that it was better to use the theft to trigger the ultimate war. Ares was the one who put Zeus and Poseidon at each other's throats by convincing Zeus that Poseidon must've been responsible and then he threw in the idea that Hades was involved too. The backpack was actually the Bolt's sheath transformed by Ares. Ares enchanted it so that, similar to Riptide, the Bolt would magically return to its sheath, but only once it was in the Underworld/near Tartarus. The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
Annabeth got away from the underworld the same way Grover and Percy did... The pearl. This series is making me want to read the books again for all the jokes, sassyness, and everything from our trio. I've been waiting for the episode with Cerberus, Fluffy as you were calling him lol. If I ever meet Cerberus, I'm going to have to remember to bring him a doggy toy lol. One thing to remember about Cerberus is that he's there to stop people from leaving the Underworld so going in past him should be easy. Getting past him to leave the Underworld is the hard part unless you have a pearl like the members of our trio do. lol
It's so funny how you are just as stressed out about episode endings as I am! 😄 Wgen the tension rises, and you think "Don't you dare stop it here, it hasn't even been 40 minutes yet!" 🙈
Persassy is a famous fandomnickname to Percy. 😂 It's fun that you're catching these things as a new fan. Some of the comments already explained some stuff but I just want to add. I believe they were transported back to Sta Monica Beach where they got the pearl cause remember the Nereid said, "what belongs to the sea will always return to the sea."
I have thoroughly enjoyed your reactions. Your videos are the ones I have always looked forward to watching ever since the episodes came out, along with Cam Silas, Manic Meeks, Monica Catapusan, and Aisha Wilson. All of you are the best ❤ Love you guys
Actor playing Poseidon played Flint in serial "Black Sails" and Alexander I in "Napoleon" of 2002. Also he appeared in one of episodes of "Agatha Christie’s Poirot - "Five Little Pigs".
Unfortunately they had to cut some great stuff from the books. The main entrance to the Underworld they go through is a recording studio called DOA Recording Studios, and they have an entire interaction with Charon where Percy tries to pass them off as dead by saying they all drowned in the bathtub (it does not work) and Charon saying that he can add the cost of their ferry ride “to their last cable bill” since people aren’t buried with the drachma for payment anymore. I understand why they made those changes but it would have added some humor to a very heavy episode.
Issues with lighting? I think we can blame The Lighting Thief. (Also note I'm mostly OK with the lighting but can definitely see how it's a problem especially for TH-camrs who need to light up their rooms for better visuals and can't see the screens because of it meanwhile I just can't watch the show outside)
Others have already commented but Poseidon is played by Toby Stephens, who happens to be Maggie Smith's son (they look extremely related, especially in the cheekbones)!! He definitely got the role because of his turn as Captain Flint in Black Sails (same showrunners) and I would absolutely DIE if you did reactions for that show, it's one of my all-time favorites. The character work is phenomenal and lives in your brain forever afterwards.
In the book it happened a bit differently. Annabeth didnt get trapped in the tree roots, percy only realized the lighting bolt (which was attached to the bag by magic so it would only appear in percy's bag when he reached the underworld) was in his bag when he met hades, and also, percy was initially only given three pearls, grover was not, also, inside the dog cerberus. Hope this helps ❤
No but you coming up with Persassy all by yourself without the fandom's influence is just proof of how well his character was translated to screen. Writers and Walker are great 😊❤ And you already dissing Zeus, before even meeting him... yup, you're one of us now (ONE OF US! ONE OF US!). Becoming obssessed with greek myths is very natural once you dive into Percy Jackson! Frequently sparks our interest in other myths as well. Hope you have lots of fun in this ride.
21:55 "Is everyone else as confused as I am now ?" I wanted to answer "Of course it is confusing, it is no ordinary Disney show" but, actually it is produced by... well, never mind... The plot is playing mind games on us... In the book, we were also completely lost.
What I love about this episode is how it highlights that Poseidon really wants to be part of Percy’s life, but is obligated to stay away from him. We also see that lesson about how looks can be deceiving as most assume Hades is an envious and villainous god but is actually quite the opposite as he only wants to be free of family drama and his rightful property restored. The moment Percy has to make the choice to leave his mom for now is so much impactful as you remember the last words of the prophecy: “And you shall fail to save what matters in the end.” Can’t wait for the season finale!!! 🧑🏼🦱👩🏿🦱🧑🏾🦱☠️🌊🪖🔱⚡️💙💛🖤🩶
In the book that line either meant that scene or Percy not saving her from Gabe because Percy chose to honor Sally's choice of saving HERSELF from that situation
@@WarGrowlmon18 I was in the middle of Battle of the Olympians. I still have to finish. I was cracking a joke about many people assume that Hell and the Underworld are the same place.
Pretty sure you know the actor who plays the matress salesman because he played Death in Supernatural Also love they got Toby Stephens (Capt. Flint from Black Sails, John Robinson in Lost in Space 2018) to play Poseidon!
I have enjoyed every video so much! They really make you care about the kids just to break our hearts 😭 also, if you enjoyed the series i recommend reading the first book, its a super easy read at 370 pages and really fleshes out the camp and characters!
The pearls were their way out of the underworld. "what comes from the sea must always return" means that they took the trio back to the sea, where they washed up on the beach. the way annabeth escaped the root was by throwing her pearl at her feet and escaping to the beach to wait for P & G. I love these reactions, they're so refreshing to see from the perspective of someone who is completely new to the fandom instead of having been in it for eight years and wayyy too many rereads😜. Can't wait to see your reaction to the finale!! (Also ps. there is going to be a behind the scenes mini movie released that same night if you're interested!!)
That actor playing Poseidon is a man named Toby Stevens, one of the most underrated actors I have ever seen. Interesting little fact the showrunner of this series, was previously a showrunner and head writer for a series called Black Sails that our man Toby Stevens starred in. And it is one of the greatest shows I have ever seen and I would 10,000% recommend.
"idk who that actor is, but he did a great job of making me like someone I did not like before" You gotta see him in Black Sails. That's literally what he does every single episode
My favorite thing about the Hades scene in the book is that, they've been under the impression that Hades wanted to start a war to destabilize his brothers and grow his armies with the millions of mortals that would die in their war. And when they say that to Hades, he just goes off on a rant about all the major infrastructure issues in the Underworld and the LAST thing he wants is a sudden influx of new souls 😂
Hahaha I loved the joke with Percy's name, cause here in Brazil the fandom calls itself "Persistente" (Persistent) because of the pronunciation: Percys-tente and because, you know, with everything the group has to go through they NEED to be persistent.
Just the fact that even Medusa knew Percy was Poseidon’s son at first glance after Poseidon had claimed him is an indicator of what monsters children of the big three can attract, especially if they’re claimed. If Poseidon had been more present in Percy’s life earlier in his childhood, he’d have attracted more danger to his son AND Sally. Unless Sally had brought Percy to camp to get trained earlier, but that also isn’t right the right decision, and Sally has stated in this episode why. Plus, it will all the more give Percy the impression that his mom is trying to get rid of him by sending him to camp for the rest of his life. So yeah, Poseidon rather stayed away. It’s what he also picked up from his conversation with Sally not wanting to be separated from Percy just yet. It’s hard for a god to feel powerless.
I’d love to see your reaction to Black Sails. It’s a show about pirates in the Bahamas set in the early 1700s. Toby Stevens (Poseidon) plays the main character, Jessica Parker Kennedy (Medusa) has a leading role, and a lot of other people behind the screen on PJO also worked on it. It is a beautifully written show and all the actors have spoken about how it’s their favourite thing to have worked on. There should be some content warnings for the first 5(?) episodes, but after that the show just gets better with each episode (still with an R rating, but no more sexual violence after episode 5).
Toby Stephens (Poseidon) was Captain Flint in Black Sails and John Robinson in Lost in Space. He also played Rochester in Jane Eyre. Really great actor.
My first though was - a helm of invisibility was stolen - we know a character who has a 'helm' of invisibility - supposedly a gift from her mother who wants nothing to do with her...hmmm!
No, Annabeth's innocent. That hat appears throughout the book series, it's really just a magic hat and it's nowhere near as powerful as the Helm of Darkness. The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
My thoughts on Poseidon, taking into account the show version of Medusa: Poseidon and Medusa were lovers, Athena took offense to Medusa choosing Poseidon over her and becoming his lover since Medusa used to be a dedicate to Athena, a virgin goddess, so Athena cursed Medusa and Poseidon couldn't do anything about it and wasn't able to be with Medusa due to the curse possible being able to affect him. Medusa takes this as a betrayal by Athena (rightfully so) and Poseidon (unfairly so), viewing them both as monsters who preyed upon her and then discarded her when it was only Athena who did so, Poseidon being caught up in Athena's vengeance (no longer being able to be with Medusa). This does parallel Poseidon's relationship with Sally and Percy somewhat, as once again, because of another god's (Zeus's) agenda, he can't be with the ones he loves, except in this case he is only holding back temporarily until Percy has grown enough to not get caught up in the pantheon's bs to the same degree as he would as an innocent child. This is why I think Annabeth trusts Poseidon; she sees that Athena is petty after her abandoning them at the Arch, and given Poseidon's rivalry with Athena and previously saving Percy, he seems to not buy into the bs.
Sally putting a lit match in the sundae is the same as the burnt offerings the kids do at camp. Which shows just how much Poseidon cares for Sally! Luke said at camp to burn what you'll miss the most but Sally burnt a random left over sundae and Poseidon showed up immediately!
In the book, Ares explains that Zeus sent his children out to find the Lightning Thief after the Bolt's theft was discovered. He actually DID catch the guy, but Kronos intervened and convinced Ares that it was better to use the theft to trigger the ultimate war. Ares was the one who put Zeus and Poseidon at each other's throats by convincing Zeus that Poseidon must've been responsible and then he threw in the idea that Hades was involved too. The backpack was actually the Bolt's sheath transformed by Ares. Ares enchanted it so that, similar to Riptide, the Bolt would magically return to its sheath, but only once it was in the Underworld/near Tartarus. The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
fun fact, Poseidon’s actor is the son of Maggie Smith aka Professor McGonagall from the HP movies 🥰 he was also the protagonist in the tv show Black Sails which is really good
Also annabeth saying “I trust your dad” is very powerful bc her mom Athena and Poseidon or basically rivals/enemies
The problem is that was never explained in the show so anyone who hasn’t read the books would be lost on the significance of it. This show is relying way too much on people being familiar with the source material.
@@Creek932 It's pretty clear on the show. There's the Medusa story, of course, and then there's the scene at the arch where Annabeth says that the arch is immune to earthquakes so Poseidon can't destroy it
@@Creek932it’s a big part of Greek mythology in general, not just from the book series. I think it’s safe to assume that anyone invested in this show would have some general knowledge of Greek mythology, or would have at least looked some things up afterwards :)
@@Creek932They didn't say those exact words, but they alluded to it all throughout the series so far
@Creek932 they spelled it out pretty clearly during the Medusa episode
The thunderclap being a constant reminder for Poseidon that he cannot be doing anymore than talk to Sally because he knows the consequences. He knows Zeus is watching him and he knows what he'll do if he does just like what he's done in the past.
I see people saying this, but wouldn’t Zeus have blamed him for stealing the bolt before Poseidon claimed him? I think Poseidon is staying away so that Zeus doesn’t know he has a son, yet.
Edit:
The gods only exist where their names are called/where their realm of influence resides. So Zeus could be in multiple areas of air and space at once, but not know what is happening in the realm of Poseidon. A lot of the gods know stuff through the series because word spreads fast from Camp Half Blood.
I thought it was just a side effect of Poseidon’s presence, the whole storm bringer of it all
@@frankito1122 Nah, it’s definitely Zeus reminding Poseidon not to get too involved. The way Poseidon sighed when that thunder sounded while he was considering whether or not he should talk to Percy? Definitely Zeus.
@@mrs.manrique7411 my first thought when that thunderclap hit was that, then I thought about this. I wonder how Zeus could have known any more than how he could've known about Maria di Angelo. And Hades probably had his kids before the pact. But maybe it still made sense because this was before the theft. Hades already sent Alecto to find Percy before he was even claimed and Zeus also blamed him for the bolt. So maybe they already knew and Sally just somehow managed to hide him and keep him away for that much long until that happened.
The thunder was Poseidon. He's the god of storms. Lightning is Zeus'. Ik it's confusing
"I'll be right by his side." The waves behind Percy as he faces off against Ares... Chef's kiss.
If you hate Rick's cliffhangers, just wait until you reach Mark Of Athena, easily the most devastating cliffhanger ever
I'll never forgive Rick for his dedication page in House of Hades 😭💀
Uncle Rick is a professionel cliffhanger expert 😢
Every time I hear a show-only fan complain about cliffhangers I cackle, and also cry
You did not-
dam you son of a very nice person 🥺😔
The actor who played Poseidon is Toby Stevens who happens to be Dame Maggie Smith’s son! (I know, I’m surprised too) I think a lot of people saw Poseidon and immediately be like “Sally we totally understand you now.”
What?! 🤯 I never would have guessed that
I just found out he was her son the other day. I knew him from the And Then There Were None adaptation and looked up what else he'd been in. Mind was blown.
He was so brilliant in Black Sails!
OMH HWAT, MINNIE'S SON
WHATTTTT
Annabeth escaped from the trees by using her pearl to teleport out to the beach
That makes total sense 😅 For whatever reason, it just didn’t click in my brain at the time lol. Thank you for clarifying!
A small detail I love; earlier in the show, Luke says you have to burn something important as an offering for the gods if you want them to listen. (I don’t know how he exactly says it but it’s something like that). But here, Sally offers a half empty milkshake that wasn’t even hers and Poseidon shows up almost immediately.
Also I think we like Poseidon from that one scene because it’s very evident he cares about Sally and Percy. He’s there as soon as she asks, he lets her vent her frustrations that she can’t vent to anyone else, he doesn’t tell her what to do and only asks her what she wants. He also clearly wants to talk to Percy but knows he can’t because of the rules the gods placed. Like, obviously Poseidon isn’t a good dad, but it feels like he wants to be, especially because Percy is his only demigod kid. Like this guy broke his oath with his brothers just to be with Sally, it makes sense why he’d still care for her and Percy.
he also holds back from talking with Percy after the thunderclap. Who rules the sky and has power over lightning and thunder?
Zeus.
The thunder was like a warning.
Also, In the first episode we see Sally in the rain in the apartment after finishing making Percy's welcome gift with the blue candies. I think it's possible to connect this scene with that one and assume that Poseidon also spoke to her when she learned that Percy needed to go to camp
@@typo1345 sorry imma have be a 🤓but "Poseidon became the god of the sea and earthquakes and thunder." So no. That thunder wasn't Zeus'
@@user-pt5cl2ro6fwhat? Zeus is the God of The Sky, Lightning, and Thunder. Poseidon is God of The Sea, Storms, Earthquakes, and Horses. So yes the Thunder is Zeus
everyone every time you compare something to a different fandom:
"I can't. Not again. Im not... strong enough..."
also, it speaks volumes about their relationship that Sally made the most half-assed offering ever, and Poseidon _immediately_ came in person to talk to her
With only the info you already have on the episodes lemme explain what Percy figured out to help ya, no spoilers - Percy dreamed of the lightning thief being scolded by Kronos, the voldemort dude, for having been caught and loosing it all even though kronos gave them all the tools to succeed. And warning them not to do so again. Also, when Anabeth mentions to Luke what they figured out, she explains Groover managed to take out of Ares that he KNEW who the lightning thief was, but was covering for them for some reason.
A.K.A. - Ares actually found the lightning thief, and captured them and the things they stole (Hades' helm and the Bolt) and kept for himself. When he noticed Percy and his quest, he gave Percy an enchanted backpack, which would be the location where he could teleport the bolt into when the time came. That time being, when Percy got close to Tartarus (the big pit, where kronos is dead and in pieces). All because he wanted the war to happen between the three eldest ones.
Hades never knew or had anything to do with it, Olympus and everyone just thought he did because of the usual myths and stereotype. Kronos, if you dont recall, is the titan king, father of zeus and the olympians, and sire of Time. Also maybe why he is on dunes, like those old hourglasses. He ate all the olyimpians when they were born, because of a profecy that they'd dethrone him one day. Zeus was spared, and then crafter a weapon to slice his father to pieces and save his siblings, hence becoming the king of gods. Ergo why Kronos has the biggest grudge of them all.
Also, on a different side-note, the thunder when Posseidon considers talking to percy is Zeus, warning him he is watching, hence Posseidon stopping the moment it echoes.
Just a question was that scene with Luke where he was in Chirons office was that not the same office he saw chronos talking to the thief?
nope, Percy saw kronos talking to the thief in the same office he was expelled from school at in the first episode. As Kronos is talking in dreams to the thief and Percy, each likely saw the location as a place they knew.@@jamfronk6387
In the same logic, if you look into it, the person Kronos was is the school principal who expelled him as well. Kronos was just pupeteering the figure from Percy's memory
Great summary, she needs to see this!
Great summary, she needs to see this!
Great summary, she needs to see this!
If you'd like, I can clear up some of your confusion with this episodes with only information you already know :)
1. Annabeth escaped the Asphodel tree by using her pearl. it transported her away from the roots that were growing around her. Fun fact: this was a show original concept. Asphodel was simply portrayed as a large crowd of lost souls in the book, and the kids stayed together in the end. It's an interesting addition for several reasons.
2. What we know about the lightning thief so far, and how it was stolen:
-Kronos, the person who's been taunting Percy in his dreams, is the one who wanted the bolt stolen.
-In one of Percy's more recent dreams, Kronos was talking to the thief and chided them for loosing it.
-Ares was sent out by Zeus to find the bolt. He found Percy and his friends and sent Percabeth on what should've been a death quest for one of them, and then afterwards gave them the backpack that Percy would later find the bolt in.
-The bolt seems to have not been in the backpack the whole time. Otherwise Percy would've probably found it before now. However, it appeared in the bag just before he and Grover were nearly pulled into Tartarus.
-Hades appears to be clueless to the bolt's theft. He, like most of the rest of the gods, assumes Percy stole it. He has deduced that if Percy stole the bolt, he must've also stolen his Helm of Darkness, which went missing just before the bolt was stolen on the winter solstice. He believes that Percy stole his Helm, which allows the wearer to become invisible, and used it to steal the bolt. He took Sally hostage with the intention of trading her life for his Helm.
-On the winter solstice, Camp Half-Blood took a field trip to Olympus. It's believed that one of the demigods who was there one day is responsible for the Helm and bolt's disappearance. It's also clear that whoever is responsible is serving Kronos.
-Eons ago, Kronos was the most revered deity and ate his kids to ensure his eternal rule. Zeus managed to rescue his siblings from his stomach and chop him into pieces anyway, and then threw those pieces into Tartarus.
-Kronos seems to want a war between the gods, and it's presumed that he also has some sort of plan to rise from Tartarus, but we have no idea how, and neither to the characters.
-Ares was waiting for the kids on the beach with a Big Heckin Sword (TM) and probably intends to silence them before they can return to Olympus and tell the other gods what they know.
Love your reaction, can't wait for next week, you're gonna love it!!!
The thing about the winter solstice and how the thief stole it was already hinted in episode 5. Most of it was heavily shown in that episode. Now the trio just needs to piece it altogether. And ask him more about the bolt
About Procrustes: in the ancient times, he was a man who pretended to be a gentle host, but he actually killed his guests (Ancient Greeks had a whole thing about hospitality. Mistreating a guest was as bad a crime as mistreating family). Procrustes had a set of beds, some of which were too small, others too large. He would place weary travelers on his beds and, if they were too large for his small beds, he would cut off the extremities that projected out of the bed. If, however, they were too small for the large beds, he would stretch them out till their bones broke. He ended up being killed by the hero Theseus.
Also, as a sidenote: when it was announced that James Bobin was going to be involved in the making of this show, I actually thought that he was going to cast Sacha Baron Cohen as Procrustes, because they have collaborated in the past, and Procrustes is exactly the type of character Baron Cohen always plays. Turns out it's not him, it's an actor called Julian Richings, who has done a LOT of stuff.
I like the ringing when we enter Crusty's shop "The marseillaise"... I see a link to french revolution and decapitation ?
Is it only my imagination ?
Grover got so stressed out in this episode. He wasn't having it aside from the fact that he's been inside one of the three headed dog's mouth, but underworld/underground is just not his style as most satyrs would feel. They belong among the nature and not anything dark and gloomy or eerie.
I loved the moment when he’s picking at his horns after he opens the door. Great callback to episode 2
so, for the confusion: the helm of darkness is a helmet hades has, can turn you invisible. it went missing a few days before the bolt did, whomever took it used it to steal the bolt. that's why hades took sally, he wanted the helm back. he doesn't care about the bolt, he also doesn't want a war bc that would mean more dead people and the underworld is overcrowded as is
the bolt appeared magically in percy's bag that he got from ares the moment him and grover got close to the tartarus pit *where kronos is exiled in a million pieces*
Great reaction! You will love Hades. FYI there is a reason Percy addresses Hades as uncle and Zeus as dads brother 😂
Crusty's actor was og death on supernatural and the only actor that was also in the *awful* Percy Jackson movies! he was Charon, who crosses people over the river Styx in the underworld
That's actually a fun easter egg that he played a guardian to the entrance to the underworld in both cases. And Rick said he was trying to keep everything separate from the movies by not having cameos, but I don't think this is a big enough role to really matter, so that's kind of interesting that this is the one exception.
poseidon’s actor (toby stephens) is maggie smith’s son!
In the span of 9 months filming according to one of the producer's post Walker grew fron 5'1 to 5'7 ...and in interviews the cast has done recently he got even taller than Aryan and way taller than Leah
I'm so ready for the Ares fight with Percy. It's something that I've always wanted to see from the books and it's finally happening. In the books, he actually trash talked him into fighting, you'll know why he'll challenge Ares in the next episode. Or at least Percy will get to confront and interrogate him first before they fight.
you should totally look up the original persassy meme LOL
And here I thought I was so clever coming up with that 😂
@@movienightwithjacquiIf you’ve watched Supernatural, that could be where you recognise Crusty from. He played Death, one of the Four Horsemen lol 😂
I totally forgot about that meme, it's so dam good
@@toastoast Dam. I see what you did there 😂
I lovee all the actor choices for the gods. They do their part so well. Toby Stephens who plays Poseidon is such an incredible charismatic actor(fun fact he is also a son of Maggie Smith who played professor McGonagall in Harry Potter movies). He was in a James Bond movie, Black Sails, Jane Eyre(2006 one I believe) and many other works. What's interesting about the Underwold and its design is that the creators wanted to show kinda nothingness of it. Like its some foggy place where you can see no end and its kinda genius to reflect it that way cuz I assume it will drive domeone crazy. And Hades' domain is a reflection of the Olympus only upside down.
Only one episode left of Percy Jackson (season 1) 2023 hopefully we'll get like seasons 2, 3, 4 & 5 each adapting the other 4 books in the Percy Jackson series.
FR I rlly want to see Nico
To ease your confusion if you recall that the end of the episode with Ares before he put them in the trailer with the animals he gave Percy a bag full of supplies but they never opened it until now
It also didn’t have the bolt until they approached Tartarus, in the book he feels the bag get heavier all of a sudden.
Poseidon is played by Toby Stephens an amazing actor in a whole bunch of fun stuff, my personal favourite being Black Sails. Also fun fact, he's Maggie Smith's Son
I LOVE HIM! He also played Mr Rochester!
saw somebody on twitter say that there's a post credit scene in the finale !
How it worked in the book is that the bag ares gave them is a magical object that acts as a sheath for the master bolt, kinda like percy’s sword in pen form. Basically the master bolt was magically tied to the bag and appeared inside only as they were about to get dragged into the pit
Walker grew 6-7 inches during filming.
I so strongly recommend Black Sails to you if you enjoyed Poseidon as he is the main character of that show. Not only that, but Medusa's actress, the voice in Percy's dream, the showrunners, and the composer all worked on Black Sails as well.
I've been following your commentaries/reaction videos on the Percy Jackson show for weeks now and I'm loving your attention to the details!! You notice things that I, a book-reader, have not because sometimes I'm too focused on book-to-show plot accuracy😂 I just gotta say, I can understand your confusion. You do have all the pieces of the puzzle, you just haven't put them together (that's where the "...kind of" comes in lol)! Though I do encourage you to wait until the finale comes out because it'll be absolutely epic seeing the full picture/implications😄❤️
Cronus didn`t steal the Master Bolt someone else did, he just wants the Bolt so he can Overthrow his Son (Zeus) and take his Throne back.
As for Ares he is the god of war so having a war between the gods would definitely benefit him.
I love this show because it actually gives a proper view of Hades as a character. Pretty much all of pop culture displays Hades as Satan, but he's actually the least petty and most reasonable of the Greek gods. Hercules has to kidnap Cerberus? Hades: "Fine, just don't hurt my dog." Orpheus comes down to retrieve his wife? Hades: "Fine, but you can't look back at her on the way up. Otherwise she stays in the Underworld." He doesn't care for Olympian politics or power struggles because all mortals wind up in his realm at the end. He does still have a knack for inventive punishments, and he does have his pride, but ultimately, he's... just kind of a cool dude.
Annabeth used the pearl to escape the fields of asphodel. the nereid had said in the previous episode when she handed percy the pearls that 'what belongs to the sea can always return" so when they used the pearls to get out of the underworld they ended up back at the beach in santa monica i assume. and since annabeth left first she was probably waiting at the beach there for them.
I would state that they returned to Montauk because we see the lighthouse behind Ares that is there, not Santa Monica because we do not see the Santa Monica pier or the Ferris wheel which we saw from the beach in episode 6 before Percy went into the Ocean so they made changes to where they are sent to the beach Percy’s parents met and it saves time for them to travel back to NY . I don’t mind that change
@@floridababe05248 oh thank you for clarifying. I wasn't sure.
Andre in comments mentioned it but julian richings plays crusty , and he is the only actor from the movie who is in the show (he was charon the ferryman ) and he was death in supernatural , and in umbrella academy hes a hotel manager at "oblivion" . Them changing it to crusty guarding the underworld and casting him was perfect
Definitely a great choice. The changes from the book were perfect for a child friendly contemporary adaptation. We don’t wanna see kids in bondage on a bed, we want to meet brothers and sister of Percy to introduce us to next season, and recording studios are kinda rare, now, ssooo that wouldn’t have translated so well for younger audiences. Then they got right to the meat of the episode, making Annabeth suspicious to a lot of viewers. 💕 Perfection!
@@mrs.manrique7411 my only regret is they didnt add the jokes about adding the cost of payment to the underworld to your last cable bill , or percy asking hades to give charon a raise lol but the procustus thing was great
Jacqui making the Persassy joke when the fandom has been calling him that for decades lmaaaoo I love how intune shes getting with the fandom already.
And no shame in the confusion, it was a big twist in the book too! Thought, tbh, the book had a lot of better foreshadowing slow build, its a bit rushed and choppy here in the show. But either way, your confusion will hopefully be alleviated by the finale :)
Also, yes!! Poseidon's actor did great for immediately endearing him to us. In the book, Percy had less distaste for his father and the gods in general, but i dont mind it here in the show. Its good comparison for his narrative foil :3333 Thought it has been hard seeing all the Poseidon hate, because hes great in the books
I’ve been checking this channel every hour since yesterday lunch time because I didn’t know what day you upload! 😅 FINALLY
I’m sorry 😩 Unfortunately, I got hit with what I now call the “January Jinx,” and my schedule just got constantly thrown off post new year 😅 PJO was supposed to be Thursdays, but this month has been hopeless 😂
@@movienightwithjacquihaha, no problem, I would watch whenever. I don’t know if I could be as disciplined as you. 😅 You’re doing a GREAT job! 💕
Kronos (chronology, Father Time, Saturn, Grim Reaper) is in pieces to represent the division of time in seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, moons(months), seasons, years. He’s at the bottom of a sand pit like sand in a time turner. The solstice has already passed (in the show) to represent that Kronos has already won, at least in some small way. Kronos eats his children like time eats away at our lives. The gods have successfully tamed time because they are immortal, but even then they cannot stop it from flowing continually.
I hope to be like Percy where I can say confidently, “We’re all dying,” without fear or regrets.
24:14 the tension between Poseidon and sally was so palpable in the scene can’t even look at each other cuz they know they can’t be together
7:22 hilarious that you came to a nickname that the Percy Jackson community loves to use on your own. I think that’s a testimony to how well Percy’s character is portrayed
The thunder zeus saying "don't you dare talk to him"
The seen with Poseidon BROKE ME. And "do you want to talk to him" with Poseidons expression RIPPED MY HEART OUT, STOMPED ON IT, AND PROCEEDED TO SPAT ON IT.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Love that you discovered Persassy. We been using that for SO long.
I'm not entirely sure how Percy knew that the sand pit was Tartarus, but besides that this episode was phenomenal! Even as someone who's read this book more times than I can count, it was still full of surprises and excitement!
I think he just pieced it altogether at that moment that he realized that wasn't Hades' voice in his dreams. And Hades definitely wouldn't call him out of all places in the underworld in those sands because he has a palace. And assuming he kept the myths in mind + Ares infodumping him on ep5. They even found it weird Cerberus stopped chasing them after that.
@@ghostingbusiness4338 Oh I'm sure he did, and the train of thought he had was completely logical, but it just wasn't presented to the audience. If that's what they were going for, fine, but it just rubbed me the wrong way when I first watched the episode
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the giant hole lol. Even if he didn't know it was tartarus, there is really only 1 very significant giant pitfall in greek mythology. And he's been thinking abt it since episode 2. Gonna click eventually. If it was Annabeth it probably would've clicked earlier lol, so him being a bit slow is in character.
@@user-pt5cl2ro6f it's not him realizing it that irked me, it was how internal that realization was
@@Reidlos1773 I could see why the non book readers would be confused. But I did look back into it on Disney plus and they did have a recap of the plot, starting with Ares explaining how Zeus defeated Kronos right before they get into the episode. So maybe that kinda puts it together without it actually making it a bit obvious and on the nose for the reveal
Valid that it reminds you of return of the king because the production designer is Dan Hennah who was the production designer on Lord of the Rings!
Percy's dad made horses so the winged horse that followed him to school is attracted to him. Also Percy can talk to horses we just haven't seen it yet
Yeah it's a Pegasus
OMG, i was so shocked when you called him persassy. it’s an OLD meme in the fandom to call him that lmao
I was so proud when you said persassy lol. It’s a old meme from the fandom when the books were coming out. Had a stupid lil cartoon Percy n everything😂
“I’m gonna have so much brightening to do in the edit.” Thank you so much because I can actually see in your reactions!😂 why do they make everything so dark? I once paused the show on a dark scene and forgot it was on because I couldn’t see anything!
I love this show and Poseidon is definitely one of my favorites gods in Percy Jackson so I am really happy with how he was in the show so far.
Okay spoiler free breakdown. Firstly, Yes, you are supposed to be confused. BUT here is a spoiler free breakdown. Zeus gets his master bolt stolen and assumes that Poseidon had someone steal it from him because gods cant steal from each other they generally have demigods do all that work by giving them quests. So Zeus assumes that poseidon stole his bolt he isnt sure how his brother stole it until he learns that poseidon had broken the pact they had made and had a son which is Percy. Once zeus learns about percy he instantly assumes that poseidon had his son steal the bolt for him. poseidon on the other hand who had been keeping his distance from percy because he wasnt even supposed to be born in the first place, claims percy and has him go on the quest to retrieve the bolt from the person everyone assumes stole it. i.e HADES, so that he can avoid a war with his brother. Now we know that gods cant steal from each other directly so if hades stole the bolt then that would mean he had someone do it for him. percy and the gang dont know who but they assume that the person had already stolen and given it to hades so all they had to do was go to the underworld get it from him and in the process percy wants to get his mom back. On their way to the underworld, they meet ares who grover thinks is covering for the lightning thief, his daughter clarisse. they assume clarisse stole the bolt and gave it to hades so that poseidon and zeus would have a war and since her father likes wars he would be pleased with her. makes sense right? they get to the underworld and they almost get dragged down to tartarus the big hole in the desert place percy has been dreaming about throughout the series, the bolt appears in their bag and they realise that Hades didnt steal the bolt, in fact he had something stolen from him and since zeus had said that percy stole his bolt, hades assumed that percy had stolen his helm of darkness and used it to turn invisible so he could steal the bolt. So to get his stuff back he takes percy's mom expecting to lure percy to the underworld so he could trade his mom for his helm. Percy realises that the person talking to him in his dreams was kronos all this time and not hades. so was ares the actual villain? did clarisse just steal the bolt for her dad so he could have a war? how does kronos fit into all this? like is said, yes, you are suppossed to be confused🤣🤣
the way you say "oh dear" each time makes me imagine you editing in a deer whenever you say it haha
Now there’s a thought…🤔
I can’t believe no one is mentioning her new realization that Percy is called Persassy. One of my favorite nicknames for him, right after the classic seaweed brain
Annabeth had her pearl, and that's how she escaped the underworld. Remember the nereid told Percy 'what belongs to the sea will always return to the sea.' The pearls came from the sea, so they returned the trio to the sea.
The fact Persassy has been a common nickname since the release of the first book, even mentioned several times in the books, and you thought of it by yourself is very funny to me
for context on the backpack: you’ll notice Ares hands it to percy right before they get into the truck at the end of episode 5! and it was an enchanted bag, so the bolt only appeared inside once they were near Tartarus (the pit)!
In the book, Ares explains that Zeus sent his children out to find the Lightning Thief after the Bolt's theft was discovered. He actually DID catch the guy, but Kronos intervened and convinced Ares that it was better to use the theft to trigger the ultimate war. Ares was the one who put Zeus and Poseidon at each other's throats by convincing Zeus that Poseidon must've been responsible and then he threw in the idea that Hades was involved too. The backpack was actually the Bolt's sheath transformed by Ares. Ares enchanted it so that, similar to Riptide, the Bolt would magically return to its sheath, but only once it was in the Underworld/near Tartarus.
The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
The actor for procrustes actually also played the “Death” character in supernatural.
your confusion is exactly why the title of the episode of "We Find Out the Truth, Sort of" lol
Theres a reason why mrs dodds asked where is it in the 1st episode. She was trying to get the helm back for hades. She and her sisters work for hades
While the thunder when Poseidon thinks of talking to Percy can mean the storm inside, it is actually Zeus warning him not to talk to Percy
I just started the video. She doesn't know about Persassy as a fandom thing?? omg I love her so much
Annabeth got away from the underworld the same way Grover and Percy did... The pearl. This series is making me want to read the books again for all the jokes, sassyness, and everything from our trio. I've been waiting for the episode with Cerberus, Fluffy as you were calling him lol. If I ever meet Cerberus, I'm going to have to remember to bring him a doggy toy lol. One thing to remember about Cerberus is that he's there to stop people from leaving the Underworld so going in past him should be easy. Getting past him to leave the Underworld is the hard part unless you have a pearl like the members of our trio do. lol
We couldn't expect something without cliffhangers from uncle Rick, its what he does best.
It's so funny how you are just as stressed out about episode endings as I am! 😄 Wgen the tension rises, and you think "Don't you dare stop it here, it hasn't even been 40 minutes yet!" 🙈
Persassy is a famous fandomnickname to Percy. 😂 It's fun that you're catching these things as a new fan.
Some of the comments already explained some stuff but I just want to add. I believe they were transported back to Sta Monica Beach where they got the pearl cause remember the Nereid said, "what belongs to the sea will always return to the sea."
Jacqui thinking up Persassy, not knowing that its perch's nickname in the books is so funny
I have thoroughly enjoyed your reactions. Your videos are the ones I have always looked forward to watching ever since the episodes came out, along with Cam Silas, Manic Meeks, Monica Catapusan, and Aisha Wilson. All of you are the best ❤ Love you guys
Actor playing Poseidon played Flint in serial "Black Sails" and Alexander I in "Napoleon" of 2002. Also he appeared in one of episodes of "Agatha Christie’s Poirot - "Five Little Pigs".
The actor for Poseidon is Maggie Smith’s son (a.k.a. Professor McGonagle)
Getting to the afterlife and not having a sign that reads "Welcome! Everything is fine." feels just wrong.
Unfortunately they had to cut some great stuff from the books. The main entrance to the Underworld they go through is a recording studio called DOA Recording Studios, and they have an entire interaction with Charon where Percy tries to pass them off as dead by saying they all drowned in the bathtub (it does not work) and Charon saying that he can add the cost of their ferry ride “to their last cable bill” since people aren’t buried with the drachma for payment anymore. I understand why they made those changes but it would have added some humor to a very heavy episode.
Issues with lighting? I think we can blame The Lighting Thief.
(Also note I'm mostly OK with the lighting but can definitely see how it's a problem especially for TH-camrs who need to light up their rooms for better visuals and can't see the screens because of it meanwhile I just can't watch the show outside)
i love seeing the reactions of people whove never read the books cus their reactions are sm more entertaining lmao
Others have already commented but Poseidon is played by Toby Stephens, who happens to be Maggie Smith's son (they look extremely related, especially in the cheekbones)!! He definitely got the role because of his turn as Captain Flint in Black Sails (same showrunners) and I would absolutely DIE if you did reactions for that show, it's one of my all-time favorites. The character work is phenomenal and lives in your brain forever afterwards.
I like how Hades and Underworld were portrayed,introduction of Poseidon was really good,great episode :)
In the book it happened a bit differently. Annabeth didnt get trapped in the tree roots, percy only realized the lighting bolt (which was attached to the bag by magic so it would only appear in percy's bag when he reached the underworld) was in his bag when he met hades, and also, percy was initially only given three pearls, grover was not, also, inside the dog cerberus. Hope this helps ❤
No but you coming up with Persassy all by yourself without the fandom's influence is just proof of how well his character was translated to screen. Writers and Walker are great 😊❤
And you already dissing Zeus, before even meeting him... yup, you're one of us now (ONE OF US! ONE OF US!).
Becoming obssessed with greek myths is very natural once you dive into Percy Jackson! Frequently sparks our interest in other myths as well. Hope you have lots of fun in this ride.
21:55 "Is everyone else as confused as I am now ?"
I wanted to answer "Of course it is confusing, it is no ordinary Disney show" but, actually it is produced by... well, never mind...
The plot is playing mind games on us...
In the book, we were also completely lost.
What I love about this episode is how it highlights that Poseidon really wants to be part of Percy’s life, but is obligated to stay away from him. We also see that lesson about how looks can be deceiving as most assume Hades is an envious and villainous god but is actually quite the opposite as he only wants to be free of family drama and his rightful property restored. The moment Percy has to make the choice to leave his mom for now is so much impactful as you remember the last words of the prophecy: “And you shall fail to save what matters in the end.” Can’t wait for the season finale!!!
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In the book that line either meant that scene or Percy not saving her from Gabe because Percy chose to honor Sally's choice of saving HERSELF from that situation
@@WarGrowlmon18 I know that. But it still stings in the moment as he had literally traveled to “Hell” and back again.
@@dcemerald70 I wasn't sure if you knew that. And TECHNICALLY Percy doesn't travel to Hell and back until Book 8.😏😏😏
@@WarGrowlmon18 I was in the middle of Battle of the Olympians. I still have to finish. I was cracking a joke about many people assume that Hell and the Underworld are the same place.
@@dcemerald70 I'm not sure what book you're talking about because there's not one named that
Thank you for brightening the scenes. I finally SEE what happened during the regrets scene.
For me the actor playing crusty played Death (the Horsemen) in the TV series Supernatural
Pretty sure you know the actor who plays the matress salesman because he played Death in Supernatural
Also love they got Toby Stephens (Capt. Flint from Black Sails, John Robinson in Lost in Space 2018) to play Poseidon!
I have enjoyed every video so much! They really make you care about the kids just to break our hearts 😭 also, if you enjoyed the series i recommend reading the first book, its a super easy read at 370 pages and really fleshes out the camp and characters!
Hades is from Industry. Poseidon is Captain Flint from Black Sails.
The pearls were their way out of the underworld. "what comes from the sea must always return" means that they took the trio back to the sea, where they washed up on the beach. the way annabeth escaped the root was by throwing her pearl at her feet and escaping to the beach to wait for P & G. I love these reactions, they're so refreshing to see from the perspective of someone who is completely new to the fandom instead of having been in it for eight years and wayyy too many rereads😜. Can't wait to see your reaction to the finale!! (Also ps. there is going to be a behind the scenes mini movie released that same night if you're interested!!)
That actor playing Poseidon is a man named Toby Stevens, one of the most underrated actors I have ever seen. Interesting little fact the showrunner of this series, was previously a showrunner and head writer for a series called Black Sails that our man Toby Stevens starred in. And it is one of the greatest shows I have ever seen and I would 10,000% recommend.
"idk who that actor is, but he did a great job of making me like someone I did not like before" You gotta see him in Black Sails. That's literally what he does every single episode
Haha you are so funnily confused :-) i love your reactions. Poseidon is played by Toby Stephens - and he is my favourite Mr. Rochester :-)
My favorite thing about the Hades scene in the book is that, they've been under the impression that Hades wanted to start a war to destabilize his brothers and grow his armies with the millions of mortals that would die in their war. And when they say that to Hades, he just goes off on a rant about all the major infrastructure issues in the Underworld and the LAST thing he wants is a sudden influx of new souls 😂
Hahaha I loved the joke with Percy's name, cause here in Brazil the fandom calls itself "Persistente" (Persistent) because of the pronunciation: Percys-tente and because, you know, with everything the group has to go through they NEED to be persistent.
Just the fact that even Medusa knew Percy was Poseidon’s son at first glance after Poseidon had claimed him is an indicator of what monsters children of the big three can attract, especially if they’re claimed. If Poseidon had been more present in Percy’s life earlier in his childhood, he’d have attracted more danger to his son AND Sally.
Unless Sally had brought Percy to camp to get trained earlier, but that also isn’t right the right decision, and Sally has stated in this episode why. Plus, it will all the more give Percy the impression that his mom is trying to get rid of him by sending him to camp for the rest of his life.
So yeah, Poseidon rather stayed away. It’s what he also picked up from his conversation with Sally not wanting to be separated from Percy just yet. It’s hard for a god to feel powerless.
I’d love to see your reaction to Black Sails. It’s a show about pirates in the Bahamas set in the early 1700s. Toby Stevens (Poseidon) plays the main character, Jessica Parker Kennedy (Medusa) has a leading role, and a lot of other people behind the screen on PJO also worked on it. It is a beautifully written show and all the actors have spoken about how it’s their favourite thing to have worked on. There should be some content warnings for the first 5(?) episodes, but after that the show just gets better with each episode (still with an R rating, but no more sexual violence after episode 5).
Toby Stephens (Poseidon) was Captain Flint in Black Sails and John Robinson in Lost in Space. He also played Rochester in Jane Eyre. Really great actor.
My first though was - a helm of invisibility was stolen - we know a character who has a 'helm' of invisibility - supposedly a gift from her mother who wants nothing to do with her...hmmm!
No, Annabeth's innocent. That hat appears throughout the book series, it's really just a magic hat and it's nowhere near as powerful as the Helm of Darkness.
The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
The actor for Crusty actually played Charon in the Percy Jackson movie, which was a really cool tidbit to learn.
Persassy is actually a meme in the fandom 😂
My thoughts on Poseidon, taking into account the show version of Medusa: Poseidon and Medusa were lovers, Athena took offense to Medusa choosing Poseidon over her and becoming his lover since Medusa used to be a dedicate to Athena, a virgin goddess, so Athena cursed Medusa and Poseidon couldn't do anything about it and wasn't able to be with Medusa due to the curse possible being able to affect him. Medusa takes this as a betrayal by Athena (rightfully so) and Poseidon (unfairly so), viewing them both as monsters who preyed upon her and then discarded her when it was only Athena who did so, Poseidon being caught up in Athena's vengeance (no longer being able to be with Medusa). This does parallel Poseidon's relationship with Sally and Percy somewhat, as once again, because of another god's (Zeus's) agenda, he can't be with the ones he loves, except in this case he is only holding back temporarily until Percy has grown enough to not get caught up in the pantheon's bs to the same degree as he would as an innocent child. This is why I think Annabeth trusts Poseidon; she sees that Athena is petty after her abandoning them at the Arch, and given Poseidon's rivalry with Athena and previously saving Percy, he seems to not buy into the bs.
Gods normally: There's people burning things for me, meh
Poseidon the second the match goes into the glass: I am here for you.
Sally putting a lit match in the sundae is the same as the burnt offerings the kids do at camp. Which shows just how much Poseidon cares for Sally! Luke said at camp to burn what you'll miss the most but Sally burnt a random left over sundae and Poseidon showed up immediately!
In the book, Ares explains that Zeus sent his children out to find the Lightning Thief after the Bolt's theft was discovered. He actually DID catch the guy, but Kronos intervened and convinced Ares that it was better to use the theft to trigger the ultimate war. Ares was the one who put Zeus and Poseidon at each other's throats by convincing Zeus that Poseidon must've been responsible and then he threw in the idea that Hades was involved too. The backpack was actually the Bolt's sheath transformed by Ares. Ares enchanted it so that, similar to Riptide, the Bolt would magically return to its sheath, but only once it was in the Underworld/near Tartarus.
The clues to the real Thief's identity are all already there: someone whom Percy considers a friend as per the prophecy, who is bitter at the gods, would have the skills and the chance to steal both items AND the opportunity to mess with the Winged Shoes, which were originally a gift for Percy, so that they would drag him into Tartarus with the Bolt.
I'm so happy you're enjoying the show. I've been hearing a lot of complaints about the show.
I’m so glad I came upon you0 watching my favorite showwww ❤❤❤
So excited for this 🎉
fun fact, Poseidon’s actor is the son of Maggie Smith aka Professor McGonagall from the HP movies 🥰 he was also the protagonist in the tv show Black Sails which is really good