Longboarding is slowly growing as a sport, and I think we should all be stoked for that! The sport is being pushed and expanded into many different types of directions, and it's not always just cruising and carving anymore. No matter what sport you do, there's always going to be that kid that thinks his deck, or whatever else, is broken because of a minor chip or maintenance problem. Don't let something like this ruin it for you. Remember, the nature of longboarding is to go out and have fun.
Stoked on the support ADS. It's always good to have a goal to work towards, just don't forget that enjoying the time with YOUR crew is always the best way to have fun. Here's hoping to merge those crews and ride together one day.
That was one of the custom prototypes that we were rocking prior to the release of the DiamondDrop last September. Remember that this video came out before the board was released so a lot of the riding you see here was on proto boards (though many of them were production identical aside from the paint and artwork).
Hey Banga, the short mini is called the Derringer 28, we just re-released it in July but it is one of the classic decks that we first brought out back in the spring of 2003 (our first video ever, in 2005, has a ton of Derringer footage in it). I whole heatedly recommend the deck to anyone looking for a fun little cruiser carver.
The Pintail is all maple while the Derringer actually uses the same materials (sans carbon) as the Apex. Ie. the Derringer is a performance mini developed using our best performing construction, not just an after thought. I think it is one of the more fun, more playful, decks we have ever put out there and it is still one of my favorites for messing around on flats / small hills.
Hey, The diamond drop is rad because it's designed for many styles of riding, with high speed freeride as its main focus. It's build to withstand intense impact, while holding its shape for a VERY long time. The drop keeps your feet super locked in during slides, while the nose/kick tails allow for some freestyle variation. Hope this helps! - Bish
I believe the wheels are the Never Summer Drifts 81a. I could be wrong but I believe Jack was telling me how much he enjoyed them while he was visiting.
Dutch actually headed home with us after the trip and ended up working with us at Original for almost a year after we were back. That said he wasnt happy here in New Jersey and went back home to Montana. Last I heard he actually moved over to Europe which would be pretty awesome if that was the case.
I love how you guys constantly reply to people's answers in the comment section of your videos. Even though many of them are repeats. It shows a lot of heart and sincerity and even though I haven't asked a question, I appreciate the help you guys give out. Keep being awesome!
We longboard because it gives us a feeling that isn't quite the same as riding a street deck. Some people will argue that it's all the same, but put yourself on a longboard and cruise around for a bit and you'll most likely be hooked. It happened to all of us, and it's this feeling that keeps us coming back for more. We longboard because it makes us never want to stop. You might be able to get a similar feeling on a street board, but it's a completely different experience. Shred on! - Bish
Hey! Switching to Orangatang Fat Free's is a great idea! The difference is the hardness of the wheel... the softer the wheel the smoother the ride and the more it grips. The harder the wheel the ride will be a little "bumpier" not as smooth and the wheel will slide easier. All of the Fat Frees slide very well but I would suggest the 83a! Those are my favorite for sure and have a great slide while being great for cruising :) Have fun _Molly
The Freeride 38 with rocker concave would be a great board for you. It's low and stable during higher speeds, and the rocker pushes out the trucks making slides easy! -Lindsay
The Pintails are a great place to start- they come in a variety of lengths/thicknesses to fit your height and weight. Also come standard with Original Trucks which make learning to slide easy because they are so easy to initiate turns with. -Joel
It is. There are actually two Original topmounts one behind the other. The first is clearly being expertly piloted by the Zero; Brett Ciabattini while the second symmetrical version that comes immediately after is under Carl Knights feet.
The standard bearings that come with all Original completes are Abec 3s. We also offer upgrades such as Bones Reds, Bones Super Reds, Bones Swiss, and Bones Ceramics. -Lindsay
I don't know about the best boards but we make boards for the exact style of riding that we do every day. Stoked to hear you are liking them though. A pintail with S10s is about as hard carving as you can build a board, no matter who makes it. Great to hear you are having fun with that thing. Moving from there to the Apex I think you will also enjoy the fact that the Apex still holds a lot of carving potential. You might want to move to Caliber trucks on your Apex 40 for better sliding etc
The Pintail 43 will allow you to have a wider stance, and it will keep you stable. I suggest putting some white heavy tension springs in your trucks for some added stability. You can go with the S8 trucks if you're looking for a more aggressive carve, or the S10 trucks which make wider, more stable carves. -Lindsay
Hi Nick! 3:38 would be the Maven 35. It's an awesome freeriding and downhill board that's dropped low to the ground for easy slide initiation and stability. -Lindsay
Yep. The Penny deck is 21 or so inches long. The Penny Nickle is 27 inches long but only has a very short wheelbase. The Derringer is both longer (28 inches long), wider (9 inches wide) and more beefy with almost the entire deck being wheelbase (that means you will get a big board feel out of a tiny deck, unlike the ride you get on the pennys). Basically its a more serious carving solution even though its a smaller board (for us).
The Apex and the Freerides are the two most versatile boards that we have had in our quivers here at Original over the last year or so. Obviously there are other boards (both from Original and elsewhere) that we ride but honestly the majority of what we have done has been on those two. That said the two new topmounts are taking a solid slot in highspeed freeride / downhil, they are out being ridden by the team (making appearances in this video) and set for release in September.
The Apex 40 with double concave would be a great board for your size and the type of riding you're looking to do. It's a great board for all types of riding
The guys on the team like em a lot. They are more carvy than a lot of the trucks out there so they match well with the Derringers flex. I usually rock Original S8s when I pull out my Derringer but I have had a lot of fun on Bears and Calibers, I would imagine Paris would be great.
check out the Pintail series! They are great for people who are just starting out because they're super easy to learn on. They are meant for cruising and carving purposes. The Pintails also come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight.
We have a few videos coming out in the future! As for the Apex 40, it really depends on the type of riding you're looking to do. It's a pretty big board if you're looking to use it for freestyle tricks at your height. You would be better off with the 34 or waiting for the Apex 37. As for the nose guards, you need to drill them into the board to mount them properly.
I would suggest an Apex 40- likely the Diamond drop. It has one of the best concaves for locking your feet in, kicks for tricks, and has some stiffness for hills and freeride. -Joel
Hey Devin, Just remember that it's not better or worse, it is just newer. Really it is personal preference. Bish still prefers his DoubleConcave when offered the Diamond so its all about what is right for you, not necessarily what the sexy hot newness is. My best advice to anyone is always to find someone with the board you want, and stand on it : )
That'll be the Derringer 28. 28 x 9 inches, quad axial fiberglass for a snappy flex, geared to be a pure carver for flatland and small hills. Super fun little deck for when you don't want to carry something big.
Hmmm I see what your saying. The Pintails are great for cruising and carving and having fun, but you can do a lot more tricks on the Apex's. For you, I would suggest the Apex 40 AV Rocker with Bear trucks! Loosen up your trucks so you get a nice surfy feel for carving around and pumping through the city! Then the boards size and kicks will be great in case you want to do some cross stepping, shuvits and tricks! I think you would love that board! Let me know what you think :) _Molly
It's different. The thing about Drops, of any sort, is that they loosen up the slide initiation while adding some stability. For a beginner learning to slide, thats a good thing. Both Apexes have drops; the DoubleConcave (micro drop; 0.25 inches) and the DiamondDrop (full drop 0.925 inches). The Arbiter (for instance) has no drop. The flip side of that is that a topmount (no drop) like the Arbiter will have better grip at speed and more fine tuned control.
There is an Apex 40 DC in the beginning of the vid (I think Kyle is riding it) but a lot of the Apex footage you see here is on the DimondDrop which is a full drop compared to the microdrop of the DC. The DiamondDrop comes in at 0.925'' drop vs 0.25'' on the DC. The drop depth is deep / severe and really close to something you might find on a speedboard or something like that, very different from the all around / mellow drop in the DoubleConcave.
Height and weight helps us choose a board that would be a good size for someone. Also, know what type of riding the rider is looking to do will also help us choose a board. For you, I recommend checking out our Pintail series if you're just starting out. They come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight.
That's the new Derringer 28! You can check it out on our website under the mini longboards section. It comes in a bunch of colors and is great for city riding.
It will be back this fall along with the additional DK Apex 37 concave options that are releasing next month (September). Keep your eyes out, we needed to get the concaves dialed before the flexes would translate. Now that we have those nearly finished we have started working on the flex to get the additional flex options back on the market.
Hey! The Pintail 37 would be a great choice for what you're looking to do and your size. You could also go with the Pintail 40 if you want a wider stance. Sometimes going with the longer board helps when you're just starting out so that you don't have to worry too much about your foot placement. -Lindsay
Check out the Pintail series. They come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight, and they are meant for cruising and carving. -Lindsay
The board being carried up the hill at 2:05 is not an Original board though it does look something like the new Maven 35 that will be releasing in about 2 weeks. The rider (Jon Sevik) who does the super nasty backside 360 slide shuv is on the Apex 40 DiamondDrop.
The mini is the Derringer 28, came out in July. The Apex diamond drop is on the way and pretty close to release, we have all of the product photography shot and are working on the website as we speak. Next week is my guess though the memorial day holiday may get in the way.
A few of them are. The asymmetrical topmount is the Arbiter 36 while the symmetrical is the Maven 35. The Arbiter comes out today (probably late in the day) while the Maven is about 2 weeks out.
Here is the thing, I am in a similar situation. I ride the DiamondDrop most of the time. I take the Maven out only when I know most of my riding will be 35 to 45mph or any time I am racing a faster coarse. The DiamondDrop is a great deck because it is so versatile but you don't need kicks when you are hauling. If you are getting into higher speed stuff the Maven is great, or if you just don't care about kicktails. For more mixed all around stuff I'd take my DD Apex everytime.
Hey, I pretty sure Jack used a Cannon t2i or t3i for filming this. For a good beginner board, I would recommend one of our Pintails. They are great for riders that want to cruise, carve and commute. If you are looking for a board to slide with and push your speed, check out our Freerides and if you want an all around board check out our Apex's. As you said for just starting out, Pintails are the way to go!
For your height and weight I recommend going with the Pintail 43. It will allow you to have a wider stance, and it will be a bit more stable since it's made with 9 plys. You should also stick with the S8 trucks but you may want to put either the red or white tension springs in the trucks for some added stability. -Lindsay
Yes, we do! Shipping to South Africa is a flat rate of $60 for completes, decks, and trucks. Smaller packages like nose guards or t shirts we will ship for free :)
We don't ship on weekends, but usually the board leaves either the same day or the next business day. From there it takes 3 to 5 days to get to Europe!
We make it, though as I mentioned, it has a black dip paint job and a pretty sweet graphic on it now. The board is the Apex 40 DiamondDrop, hit up one of our dealers or you can find the board and all the colors of noseguards at the Original Skateboards website.
I know it sounds small, but the Derringer 28 would be perfect for you. It's great for cruising and carving, and it's small enough to bring into work or store somewhere without taking up too much space.
I would suggest the Drop 41, and some bushing trucks if your planning on hitting bigger hills for freeride. S8s are great for learning how to slide, but are not as stable at high speeds as a traditional truck.-Joel
Thanks for the kind words, we are trying our best to answer all of the questions and get back to everyone. It is hard at times but we were all new at one point and all of us need help from time to time. So we should try to help everyone we can. _Davey
Nah that one was just something we did to screw around at the broadway bomb one year. Usually every year we go we bring some extras so if you see our guys at the bomb, be sure to ask if we have any extra shirts. We aren't there to give away 1000 and force everyone to wear them, but its just a fun thing for fans and friends.
Hey!!! Well heres a little tip- for wheels the harder the wheel the more bumpy the ride is but the easier they slide. The softer the wheel the smoother the slide but they are grippier (the hardness is in duro like on wheels you will se 81a or 78a.) My favorite all around wheel is the Abec 11 flashback 81a. And for trucks I would recommend Calibers. You can ride them loose and cruise around or you can freeride and freestyle on them and they are very stable! Have fun (: _Molly
I agree with rtrogers13, the Drop Freeride 41 will be perfect! I love that board and the drops are super comfy and give you a lot of lock in when going fast and doing big stand ups! Have fun, you will love the board _Molly
Ah man thats rough. I think we have all been there with one injury or another. I did my ACL two years ago and I am still re-habbing. Get well soon and get back out there. Skate safe!
I would suggest the Double concave for you. I believe it is the most well rounded of the Apex. So you will fell great while your sliding, cruising, doing freestyle or anything else! Good luck with your new job also!
It all depends on the type of riding you're looking to do! If you are interested in mostly freestyle riding then I suggest going with the Apex 40 AV Rocker concave. If you think you want to do more freeriding and DH, then I'd say go with the Diamond Drop.
Yes! We ship for $60.00 USD for trucks, decks, and completes. Shipping is free for small components! This does not include any import/duty fees that may apply upon delivery.
They do feel pretty drastically different under foot. I would recommend getting on one and trying it out for yourself. Let us know what you think of the new concave. -Joel
For hills there is no question (for me) that the DiamondDrop has the advantage. That said even having ridden the DiamondDrop extensively Bish still likes his DoubleConcave best in almost every situation I have seen him in (outside of racing / pure downhill / freeride for which he rides the Maven 35 which is not yet out). So! If you are absolutely doing hills I would recommend the DiamondDrop but don't feel like it is the only choice. If you can ride both then decide, that is always best.
Hey, You might want to look into one of our Apex series boards, or one of the Freeride series as a more affordable option. The Apex 40 sounds like it would fit well with you, and it's my personal favorite board on our line. The alternative option is a Freeride 41 which is made of maple as opposed to maple+fiberglass+carbon fiber in the Apex 40. Both boards come in different concave options for you! -Bish
hey i just wanted to let you guys know that you are the ones that got me into longboarding in 2012 and i wanted to thank you guys for the videos and this one is gonna get me through the winter ... cant wait for the spring to learn those slide shuvits ... thanks guys. you helped me find a passion.
We've considered it! We wanted to make them for the Apex series first, since those boards are meant to be thrashed around because they are freestyle specific boards. Making nose guards for the freerides wasn't really a priority before but it seems like lots of people have been asking for them. I'll pass on your request! -Lindsay
Symmetrical Topmount is just behind the Arbiter 36 Asymm version (which will be out next week, or there abouts). We were hoping to get them both out in September but it will be tight to get the Maven 35 out by the end of the month.
Check out our Apex series. You can take them off some pretty big kickers and stomp hard landings without having to worry about the necks ever snapping since they are enforced with carbon.
Those two goals are on opposite sides of a boards capabilities. You have two options; get a board that's good for downhill and make up for poor flatland performance through pumping skill, OR grab a board thats great for flatland and make up the lost stability with good balance / downhill skill. Personally I think the safest way to go would be to get a good downhill deck, like the Arbiter 36, and then mount your trucks on the shortest wheelbase when you are on flats.
Yeah, it actually sounds like you are a pretty perfect fit for the Apex 34 (assuming you are doing some sliding, some freestyle and some carving). If you are doing purely freeride / downhill I would really recommend the Freeride 38 instead, but it sounds like you are certainly in the perfect weight / height range to have a lot of fun on the Apex 34.
I hope so too HS. That said after 10 years of answering question, helping riders, and designing boards, I can tell you that the helping riders section of that isn't getting old for me. It will always be fun to do our best to create boards that we love (that you guys hopefully love as well) and then talk about the effort / engage with the people riding them. It will be for me anyway and I place to do it for as long as I can. Thanks for noticing. _Scott
Sure! I will recommend the Apex 40 AV Rocker! The size and mellow flex will be perfect for your size and weight. Also this board complements freestyle perfectly while also being great for freeriding! So it would be great for you and your street skating backround. Have fun and skate safe! _Molly
The mini is the Derringer 28. Check it out on our site, it comes in a bunch of awesome colors. The Diamond drop we are working hard to have released within the next few weeks.
I believe that is the Derringer 28! You are talking about the red one with the red wheels right? It's one of our carving specific mini's, lots of fun on flats or for carving smaller hills. Made of fiberglass so it's got a positive flex which is great for that stuff.
I would suggest the Diamond Drop Apex 40- great for freestyle, good for freeride, and just a solid board all around. You could also consider a Double Drop Apex 40- or one of the 34s if your shorter. -Joel
Hi James! Stoked to hear you want to get a board! For you, I suggest checking out the Pintail 43! It's great for cruising, carving, and some smaller hills. Check out our Pintail video to see how they ride! -Lindsay
Hey, you and d3cepti0nhd are exactly right, it is mostly preference. Personally from Abec11 I love 78a grippins for all around freeride. From O-tang the 83a and 86a fat frees are awesome for tech and low speed freeriding. Volantes Checkers are also a great choice for all around freeride. Eventaully after trying many sets of wheels you'll find out what releases and hooks up the way you want them to.
1:49 is the Apex 40 DiamondDrop (coming out soon) on either side of that board in the 1:42 area and then in the 1:51 area is the Derringer 28, wasnt sure which one you were looking at : )
Id go with the Drop Freeride 41 over the RC. Its going to have the low platform for pushing and riding hills. The deeper concave also locks your feet in for slides. -Joel
Hey there Stellar Llama (I love the username!). For freeriding purposes, I suggest going with the Apex 40 diamond drop. You will love the concave and the lowness to the ground for sliding control. As for wheels, try the Abec 11 Flashbacks 81a. -Lindsay
You mean you don't want Original TRUCKS for downhill, which we completely agree with you. However, we have just released some awesome boards for downhill riding and we have them with some bushing trucks. Check out our newest line of boards such as the Arbiter, Maven, Dropped Beasts and Apex 40 Diamond Drop. They all handle high speeds VERY well. -Lindsay
Already under development and through to the last phase of prototyping. Team riders are currently tuning the flex variations and making final checks prior to getting the board on the market and available. Ie. we are close.
Apex 40 DiamondDrop (coming out next week or the week after). Not sure what the blue wheels were though, I think that Jack has blue otangs in the beginning while Billy Wilson makes an appearance on some other blue wheel later on. Regardless they are both on Apex 40 DiamondDrops haha
Each to his own, I saw a DiamondDrop setup with white paris, 70mm these and the white guards and it looked super BA. Just depends on what you are going for and on what floats your boat...er... board.
If your looking into the Freerides and want one that will lock you in and initiate slides a bit easier the Drop Freeride 44 would be the platform I would recommend. It will have a wider stance for you and be a bit more solid under your feet with it's 10ply construction. A good place to start with sliding wheels is purple stims, pretty user friendly. _Sean
If you're looking to do freestyle and freeriding then I personally suggest going with the Double Concave, and then adding the PK nose guards to help out with freestyle.
Hey, It sounds like you'll enjoy one of the Apex series boards. If you're looking for a solid freestyle board that can support your stance, I think the Apex 40 would fit you well. If you wanted a smaller board to rip around with, the 34 version is rad as well. For wheels you can definitely upgrade to some 75mm wheels, maybe some Durians or some InHeats. Good luck! -Bish
Octane Sports used to stock the stuff though I haven't been working with the shops for a little while. We also ship direct which runs at $60.00USD flatrate and takes 3 to 7 days to arrive in the U.K.
Looks like mostly the asym topmount proto (the Maven 35) but there are other decks mixed in there. With so many boards coming out at this point riders are just riding which ever they like. Bish for instance still prefers the DoubleConcave, within the crew on this video some prefer one topmount to another or prefer the DiamondDrop to either. Starting to be more about personal preference for us here at Original, which is a good thing.
The key for the DiamondDrop is freestyle. For freestyle it's going to destroy most of the other viable freeride / freestyle options. BUT you have to want freestyle performance. With all of that in mind, I think that the fact that you are looking for some freeride and mild DH would push me toward recommending the DiamondDrop over the DC... unless you aren't doing much freestyle in which case you could go with the Drop Freeride 41 or even the new Maven.
Well they are different boards and different people like each. Personally I believe the DiamondDrop is a much better board for basically everything, BUT I like drop decks. If you don't like drop decks you very well may prefer the AvRocker or the DoubleConcave. But for me, there is no substitute ANYWHERE for the DiamondDrop, it is a super unique concept and it is absolutely killer for crossover freestyle / freeride.
Caps locking hard on this one ; ) Sounds like something like the Pintail 37 or Pintail 40 would have you covered as far as performance is concerned. Those two boards are really just cruisers / carvers and they are a great inexpensive way to get on board for the first time. That said, for sliding etc (like you see in this video) you probably want to look at something like the Freeride 41 or Drop Freeride 41. Either will be easier to slide and a more reliable board to progress forward on.
1:58 is one of our favorites all time, the Derringer 28. This was actually the very first concaved / cambered fiberglass deck we created back in 2004. While there are a ton of boards that are better for sliding, and a ton of concaves better for downhill, the Derringer is still my favorite for carving and just messing around. The new version in this vid just came out in July. I think we have a new derringer vid coming out soon so keep an eye out.
Longboarding is slowly growing as a sport, and I think we should all be stoked for that! The sport is being pushed and expanded into many different types of directions, and it's not always just cruising and carving anymore. No matter what sport you do, there's always going to be that kid that thinks his deck, or whatever else, is broken because of a minor chip or maintenance problem. Don't let something like this ruin it for you. Remember, the nature of longboarding is to go out and have fun.
Stoked on the support ADS.
It's always good to have a goal to work towards, just don't forget that enjoying the time with YOUR crew is always the best way to have fun. Here's hoping to merge those crews and ride together one day.
That was one of the custom prototypes that we were rocking prior to the release of the DiamondDrop last September. Remember that this video came out before the board was released so a lot of the riding you see here was on proto boards (though many of them were production identical aside from the paint and artwork).
Thanks for the awesome comment and the constant support! Keep riding :) -Lindsay
Hey Banga, the short mini is called the Derringer 28, we just re-released it in July but it is one of the classic decks that we first brought out back in the spring of 2003 (our first video ever, in 2005, has a ton of Derringer footage in it). I whole heatedly recommend the deck to anyone looking for a fun little cruiser carver.
The Pintail is all maple while the Derringer actually uses the same materials (sans carbon) as the Apex. Ie. the Derringer is a performance mini developed using our best performing construction, not just an after thought. I think it is one of the more fun, more playful, decks we have ever put out there and it is still one of my favorites for messing around on flats / small hills.
Hey,
The diamond drop is rad because it's designed for many styles of riding, with high speed freeride as its main focus. It's build to withstand intense impact, while holding its shape for a VERY long time. The drop keeps your feet super locked in during slides, while the nose/kick tails allow for some freestyle variation. Hope this helps!
- Bish
I believe the wheels are the Never Summer Drifts 81a. I could be wrong but I believe Jack was telling me how much he enjoyed them while he was visiting.
Dutch actually headed home with us after the trip and ended up working with us at Original for almost a year after we were back. That said he wasnt happy here in New Jersey and went back home to Montana. Last I heard he actually moved over to Europe which would be pretty awesome if that was the case.
I love how you guys constantly reply to people's answers in the comment section of your videos. Even though many of them are repeats. It shows a lot of heart and sincerity and even though I haven't asked a question, I appreciate the help you guys give out. Keep being awesome!
We longboard because it gives us a feeling that isn't quite the same as riding a street deck. Some people will argue that it's all the same, but put yourself on a longboard and cruise around for a bit and you'll most likely be hooked. It happened to all of us, and it's this feeling that keeps us coming back for more. We longboard because it makes us never want to stop. You might be able to get a similar feeling on a street board, but it's a completely different experience. Shred on!
- Bish
Hey! Switching to Orangatang Fat Free's is a great idea! The difference is the hardness of the wheel... the softer the wheel the smoother the ride and the more it grips. The harder the wheel the ride will be a little "bumpier" not as smooth and the wheel will slide easier. All of the Fat Frees slide very well but I would suggest the 83a! Those are my favorite for sure and have a great slide while being great for cruising :) Have fun
_Molly
The Freeride 38 with rocker concave would be a great board for you. It's low and stable during higher speeds, and the rocker pushes out the trucks making slides easy! -Lindsay
The Pintails are a great place to start- they come in a variety of lengths/thicknesses to fit your height and weight. Also come standard with Original Trucks which make learning to slide easy because they are so easy to initiate turns with. -Joel
It is. There are actually two Original topmounts one behind the other. The first is clearly being expertly piloted by the Zero; Brett Ciabattini while the second symmetrical version that comes immediately after is under Carl Knights feet.
The standard bearings that come with all Original completes are Abec 3s. We also offer upgrades such as Bones Reds, Bones Super Reds, Bones Swiss, and Bones Ceramics. -Lindsay
I don't know about the best boards but we make boards for the exact style of riding that we do every day.
Stoked to hear you are liking them though. A pintail with S10s is about as hard carving as you can build a board, no matter who makes it. Great to hear you are having fun with that thing. Moving from there to the Apex I think you will also enjoy the fact that the Apex still holds a lot of carving potential. You might want to move to Caliber trucks on your Apex 40 for better sliding etc
Yep! This is actually the first video on our channel to show a glimpse of the Arbiter. There are many shots of the team riding it in here.
The Pintail 43 will allow you to have a wider stance, and it will keep you stable. I suggest putting some white heavy tension springs in your trucks for some added stability. You can go with the S8 trucks if you're looking for a more aggressive carve, or the S10 trucks which make wider, more stable carves. -Lindsay
Hi Nick! 3:38 would be the Maven 35. It's an awesome freeriding and downhill board that's dropped low to the ground for easy slide initiation and stability. -Lindsay
Yep. The Penny deck is 21 or so inches long.
The Penny Nickle is 27 inches long but only has a very short wheelbase.
The Derringer is both longer (28 inches long), wider (9 inches wide) and more beefy with almost the entire deck being wheelbase (that means you will get a big board feel out of a tiny deck, unlike the ride you get on the pennys). Basically its a more serious carving solution even though its a smaller board (for us).
The Apex and the Freerides are the two most versatile boards that we have had in our quivers here at Original over the last year or so. Obviously there are other boards (both from Original and elsewhere) that we ride but honestly the majority of what we have done has been on those two.
That said the two new topmounts are taking a solid slot in highspeed freeride / downhil, they are out being ridden by the team (making appearances in this video) and set for release in September.
The Apex 40 with double concave would be a great board for your size and the type of riding you're looking to do. It's a great board for all types of riding
The guys on the team like em a lot. They are more carvy than a lot of the trucks out there so they match well with the Derringers flex. I usually rock Original S8s when I pull out my Derringer but I have had a lot of fun on Bears and Calibers, I would imagine Paris would be great.
Hey Alex! Thanks for the support! We have changed from FedEx to UPS recently and the shipments are arriving in a much timely manner :)
check out the Pintail series! They are great for people who are just starting out because they're super easy to learn on. They are meant for cruising and carving purposes. The Pintails also come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight.
We have a few videos coming out in the future! As for the Apex 40, it really depends on the type of riding you're looking to do. It's a pretty big board if you're looking to use it for freestyle tricks at your height. You would be better off with the 34 or waiting for the Apex 37. As for the nose guards, you need to drill them into the board to mount them properly.
I would suggest an Apex 40- likely the Diamond drop. It has one of the best concaves for locking your feet in, kicks for tricks, and has some stiffness for hills and freeride. -Joel
Hey Devin,
Just remember that it's not better or worse, it is just newer. Really it is personal preference. Bish still prefers his DoubleConcave when offered the Diamond so its all about what is right for you, not necessarily what the sexy hot newness is.
My best advice to anyone is always to find someone with the board you want, and stand on it : )
That'll be the Derringer 28. 28 x 9 inches, quad axial fiberglass for a snappy flex, geared to be a pure carver for flatland and small hills. Super fun little deck for when you don't want to carry something big.
Hmmm I see what your saying. The Pintails are great for cruising and carving and having fun, but you can do a lot more tricks on the Apex's. For you, I would suggest the Apex 40 AV Rocker with Bear trucks! Loosen up your trucks so you get a nice surfy feel for carving around and pumping through the city! Then the boards size and kicks will be great in case you want to do some cross stepping, shuvits and tricks! I think you would love that board! Let me know what you think :)
_Molly
It's different.
The thing about Drops, of any sort, is that they loosen up the slide initiation while adding some stability. For a beginner learning to slide, thats a good thing.
Both Apexes have drops; the DoubleConcave (micro drop; 0.25 inches) and the DiamondDrop (full drop 0.925 inches). The Arbiter (for instance) has no drop.
The flip side of that is that a topmount (no drop) like the Arbiter will have better grip at speed and more fine tuned control.
There is an Apex 40 DC in the beginning of the vid (I think Kyle is riding it) but a lot of the Apex footage you see here is on the DimondDrop which is a full drop compared to the microdrop of the DC. The DiamondDrop comes in at 0.925'' drop vs 0.25'' on the DC. The drop depth is deep / severe and really close to something you might find on a speedboard or something like that, very different from the all around / mellow drop in the DoubleConcave.
Height and weight helps us choose a board that would be a good size for someone. Also, know what type of riding the rider is looking to do will also help us choose a board. For you, I recommend checking out our Pintail series if you're just starting out. They come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight.
That's the new Derringer 28! You can check it out on our website under the mini longboards section. It comes in a bunch of colors and is great for city riding.
It will be back this fall along with the additional DK Apex 37 concave options that are releasing next month (September). Keep your eyes out, we needed to get the concaves dialed before the flexes would translate. Now that we have those nearly finished we have started working on the flex to get the additional flex options back on the market.
Hey! The Pintail 37 would be a great choice for what you're looking to do and your size. You could also go with the Pintail 40 if you want a wider stance. Sometimes going with the longer board helps when you're just starting out so that you don't have to worry too much about your foot placement. -Lindsay
Check out the Pintail series. They come in 4 different sizes depending on your height and weight, and they are meant for cruising and carving. -Lindsay
The board being carried up the hill at 2:05 is not an Original board though it does look something like the new Maven 35 that will be releasing in about 2 weeks. The rider (Jon Sevik) who does the super nasty backside 360 slide shuv is on the Apex 40 DiamondDrop.
The mini is the Derringer 28, came out in July. The Apex diamond drop is on the way and pretty close to release, we have all of the product photography shot and are working on the website as we speak. Next week is my guess though the memorial day holiday may get in the way.
A few of them are.
The asymmetrical topmount is the Arbiter 36 while the symmetrical is the Maven 35. The Arbiter comes out today (probably late in the day) while the Maven is about 2 weeks out.
Here is the thing,
I am in a similar situation. I ride the DiamondDrop most of the time. I take the Maven out only when I know most of my riding will be 35 to 45mph or any time I am racing a faster coarse. The DiamondDrop is a great deck because it is so versatile but you don't need kicks when you are hauling. If you are getting into higher speed stuff the Maven is great, or if you just don't care about kicktails. For more mixed all around stuff I'd take my DD Apex everytime.
Hey, I pretty sure Jack used a Cannon t2i or t3i for filming this. For a good beginner board, I would recommend one of our Pintails. They are great for riders that want to cruise, carve and commute. If you are looking for a board to slide with and push your speed, check out our Freerides and if you want an all around board check out our Apex's. As you said for just starting out, Pintails are the way to go!
For your height and weight I recommend going with the Pintail 43. It will allow you to have a wider stance, and it will be a bit more stable since it's made with 9 plys. You should also stick with the S8 trucks but you may want to put either the red or white tension springs in the trucks for some added stability. -Lindsay
Yes, we do! Shipping to South Africa is a flat rate of $60 for completes, decks, and trucks. Smaller packages like nose guards or t shirts we will ship for free :)
From time to time we absolutely due. 81a is my personal favorite classic thane duro option.
We don't ship on weekends, but usually the board leaves either the same day or the next business day. From there it takes 3 to 5 days to get to Europe!
We make it, though as I mentioned, it has a black dip paint job and a pretty sweet graphic on it now. The board is the Apex 40 DiamondDrop, hit up one of our dealers or you can find the board and all the colors of noseguards at the Original Skateboards website.
Sounds like a great board for you! The Pintails are sticking around, so if you can't get one now you should have no problem after winter.
I know it sounds small, but the Derringer 28 would be perfect for you. It's great for cruising and carving, and it's small enough to bring into work or store somewhere without taking up too much space.
I would suggest the Drop 41, and some bushing trucks if your planning on hitting bigger hills for freeride. S8s are great for learning how to slide, but are not as stable at high speeds as a traditional truck.-Joel
Derringer 28, just re-released in July. Check it out, one of my all time favorites for just screwing around.
Thanks for the kind words, we are trying our best to answer all of the questions and get back to everyone. It is hard at times but we were all new at one point and all of us need help from time to time. So we should try to help everyone we can.
_Davey
Nah that one was just something we did to screw around at the broadway bomb one year.
Usually every year we go we bring some extras so if you see our guys at the bomb, be sure to ask if we have any extra shirts. We aren't there to give away 1000 and force everyone to wear them, but its just a fun thing for fans and friends.
Hey!!! Well heres a little tip- for wheels the harder the wheel the more bumpy the ride is but the easier they slide. The softer the wheel the smoother the slide but they are grippier (the hardness is in duro like on wheels you will se 81a or 78a.) My favorite all around wheel is the Abec 11 flashback 81a. And for trucks I would recommend Calibers. You can ride them loose and cruise around or you can freeride and freestyle on them and they are very stable! Have fun (:
_Molly
Yup! It comes in a bunch of colors! It's on our website under the mini longboards section if you want to check it out. It's a ton of fun!
I agree with rtrogers13, the Drop Freeride 41 will be perfect! I love that board and the drops are super comfy and give you a lot of lock in when going fast and doing big stand ups! Have fun, you will love the board
_Molly
Ah man thats rough.
I think we have all been there with one injury or another. I did my ACL two years ago and I am still re-habbing. Get well soon and get back out there. Skate safe!
I would suggest the Double concave for you. I believe it is the most well rounded of the Apex. So you will fell great while your sliding, cruising, doing freestyle or anything else! Good luck with your new job also!
It all depends on the type of riding you're looking to do! If you are interested in mostly freestyle riding then I suggest going with the Apex 40 AV Rocker concave. If you think you want to do more freeriding and DH, then I'd say go with the Diamond Drop.
Yes! We ship for $60.00 USD for trucks, decks, and completes. Shipping is free for small components! This does not include any import/duty fees that may apply upon delivery.
They do feel pretty drastically different under foot. I would recommend getting on one and trying it out for yourself. Let us know what you think of the new concave. -Joel
For hills there is no question (for me) that the DiamondDrop has the advantage. That said even having ridden the DiamondDrop extensively Bish still likes his DoubleConcave best in almost every situation I have seen him in (outside of racing / pure downhill / freeride for which he rides the Maven 35 which is not yet out).
So! If you are absolutely doing hills I would recommend the DiamondDrop but don't feel like it is the only choice. If you can ride both then decide, that is always best.
Hey,
You might want to look into one of our Apex series boards, or one of the Freeride series as a more affordable option. The Apex 40 sounds like it would fit well with you, and it's my personal favorite board on our line. The alternative option is a Freeride 41 which is made of maple as opposed to maple+fiberglass+carbon fiber in the Apex 40. Both boards come in different concave options for you!
-Bish
hey i just wanted to let you guys know that you are the ones that got me into longboarding in 2012 and i wanted to thank you guys for the videos and this one is gonna get me through the winter ... cant wait for the spring to learn those slide shuvits ... thanks guys. you helped me find a passion.
We've considered it! We wanted to make them for the Apex series first, since those boards are meant to be thrashed around because they are freestyle specific boards. Making nose guards for the freerides wasn't really a priority before but it seems like lots of people have been asking for them. I'll pass on your request! -Lindsay
Symmetrical Topmount is just behind the Arbiter 36 Asymm version (which will be out next week, or there abouts). We were hoping to get them both out in September but it will be tight to get the Maven 35 out by the end of the month.
Check out our Apex series. You can take them off some pretty big kickers and stomp hard landings without having to worry about the necks ever snapping since they are enforced with carbon.
Those two goals are on opposite sides of a boards capabilities. You have two options; get a board that's good for downhill and make up for poor flatland performance through pumping skill, OR grab a board thats great for flatland and make up the lost stability with good balance / downhill skill.
Personally I think the safest way to go would be to get a good downhill deck, like the Arbiter 36, and then mount your trucks on the shortest wheelbase when you are on flats.
We ship UPS international, so usually no more then 5 days ship time anywhere in the world. It can take additional time in customs though. -Joel
Yeah, it actually sounds like you are a pretty perfect fit for the Apex 34 (assuming you are doing some sliding, some freestyle and some carving). If you are doing purely freeride / downhill I would really recommend the Freeride 38 instead, but it sounds like you are certainly in the perfect weight / height range to have a lot of fun on the Apex 34.
I hope so too HS.
That said after 10 years of answering question, helping riders, and designing boards, I can tell you that the helping riders section of that isn't getting old for me. It will always be fun to do our best to create boards that we love (that you guys hopefully love as well) and then talk about the effort / engage with the people riding them. It will be for me anyway and I place to do it for as long as I can. Thanks for noticing.
_Scott
Sure! I will recommend the Apex 40 AV Rocker! The size and mellow flex will be perfect for your size and weight. Also this board complements freestyle perfectly while also being great for freeriding! So it would be great for you and your street skating backround. Have fun and skate safe!
_Molly
The mini is the Derringer 28. Check it out on our site, it comes in a bunch of awesome colors. The Diamond drop we are working hard to have released within the next few weeks.
I believe that is the Derringer 28! You are talking about the red one with the red wheels right? It's one of our carving specific mini's, lots of fun on flats or for carving smaller hills. Made of fiberglass so it's got a positive flex which is great for that stuff.
I would suggest the Diamond Drop Apex 40- great for freestyle, good for freeride, and just a solid board all around. You could also consider a Double Drop Apex 40- or one of the 34s if your shorter. -Joel
Hi James! Stoked to hear you want to get a board! For you, I suggest checking out the Pintail 43! It's great for cruising, carving, and some smaller hills. Check out our Pintail video to see how they ride! -Lindsay
Hey, you and d3cepti0nhd are exactly right, it is mostly preference. Personally from Abec11 I love 78a grippins for all around freeride. From O-tang the 83a and 86a fat frees are awesome for tech and low speed freeriding. Volantes Checkers are also a great choice for all around freeride. Eventaully after trying many sets of wheels you'll find out what releases and hooks up the way you want them to.
1:49 is the Apex 40 DiamondDrop (coming out soon) on either side of that board in the 1:42 area and then in the 1:51 area is the Derringer 28, wasnt sure which one you were looking at : )
Id go with the Drop Freeride 41 over the RC. Its going to have the low platform for pushing and riding hills. The deeper concave also locks your feet in for slides. -Joel
Hey there Stellar Llama (I love the username!). For freeriding purposes, I suggest going with the Apex 40 diamond drop. You will love the concave and the lowness to the ground for sliding control. As for wheels, try the Abec 11 Flashbacks 81a. -Lindsay
You mean you don't want Original TRUCKS for downhill, which we completely agree with you. However, we have just released some awesome boards for downhill riding and we have them with some bushing trucks. Check out our newest line of boards such as the Arbiter, Maven, Dropped Beasts and Apex 40 Diamond Drop. They all handle high speeds VERY well. -Lindsay
Already under development and through to the last phase of prototyping. Team riders are currently tuning the flex variations and making final checks prior to getting the board on the market and available. Ie. we are close.
Apex 40 DiamondDrop (coming out next week or the week after). Not sure what the blue wheels were though, I think that Jack has blue otangs in the beginning while Billy Wilson makes an appearance on some other blue wheel later on. Regardless they are both on Apex 40 DiamondDrops haha
Each to his own, I saw a DiamondDrop setup with white paris, 70mm these and the white guards and it looked super BA. Just depends on what you are going for and on what floats your boat...er... board.
If your looking into the Freerides and want one that will lock you in and initiate slides a bit easier the Drop Freeride 44 would be the platform I would recommend. It will have a wider stance for you and be a bit more solid under your feet with it's 10ply construction. A good place to start with sliding wheels is purple
stims, pretty user friendly.
_Sean
If you're looking to do freestyle and freeriding then I personally suggest going with the Double Concave, and then adding the PK nose guards to help out with freestyle.
Try some Orangatang Stimulus wheels- they're pretty good for all around riding and they slide easily since they are pre-broken in for you. -Lindsay
Hey,
It sounds like you'll enjoy one of the Apex series boards. If you're looking for a solid freestyle board that can support your stance, I think the Apex 40 would fit you well. If you wanted a smaller board to rip around with, the 34 version is rad as well. For wheels you can definitely upgrade to some 75mm wheels, maybe some Durians or some InHeats. Good luck!
-Bish
Octane Sports used to stock the stuff though I haven't been working with the shops for a little while. We also ship direct which runs at $60.00USD flatrate and takes 3 to 7 days to arrive in the U.K.
Looks like mostly the asym topmount proto (the Maven 35) but there are other decks mixed in there. With so many boards coming out at this point riders are just riding which ever they like. Bish for instance still prefers the DoubleConcave, within the crew on this video some prefer one topmount to another or prefer the DiamondDrop to either. Starting to be more about personal preference for us here at Original, which is a good thing.
The key for the DiamondDrop is freestyle. For freestyle it's going to destroy most of the other viable freeride / freestyle options. BUT you have to want freestyle performance. With all of that in mind, I think that the fact that you are looking for some freeride and mild DH would push me toward recommending the DiamondDrop over the DC... unless you aren't doing much freestyle in which case you could go with the Drop Freeride 41 or even the new Maven.
Well they are different boards and different people like each. Personally I believe the DiamondDrop is a much better board for basically everything, BUT I like drop decks. If you don't like drop decks you very well may prefer the AvRocker or the DoubleConcave. But for me, there is no substitute ANYWHERE for the DiamondDrop, it is a super unique concept and it is absolutely killer for crossover freestyle / freeride.
If you go to Original's website, click on products, and to the right, click on hardware- you'll see the PK Nose Guards. -Lindsay
Caps locking hard on this one ; )
Sounds like something like the Pintail 37 or Pintail 40 would have you covered as far as performance is concerned. Those two boards are really just cruisers / carvers and they are a great inexpensive way to get on board for the first time.
That said, for sliding etc (like you see in this video) you probably want to look at something like the Freeride 41 or Drop Freeride 41. Either will be easier to slide and a more reliable board to progress forward on.
Hey! The new Dropped Freeride 41 would be great for you! It's very low to the ground and will slide very easily for you.
Check out the Drop Freeride 41 or the Maven- They are two boards designed for freeride and will help you get into sliding. -Joel
1:58 is one of our favorites all time, the Derringer 28. This was actually the very first concaved / cambered fiberglass deck we created back in 2004. While there are a ton of boards that are better for sliding, and a ton of concaves better for downhill, the Derringer is still my favorite for carving and just messing around.
The new version in this vid just came out in July. I think we have a new derringer vid coming out soon so keep an eye out.
Check out the Pintails or the Derringer- depending on your preference. Both are fun cruiser type decks. -Joel
yes we do! Shipping to Australia is $60.