SDI E Click system for the Raptor - Wake up you Live Valve's
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- This week we got to play with the SDI E-Click system and we were blown away. I you want to add the extra performance to your truck without a HUGE price tag, look no further than this system. Dont have live vales, no problem. The system can add live valves to just about any truck out there. Most Ford trucks already supported, all Gen2s supported. Gen1 just tested and they are working on kits. and so much more.
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Helio, this video was great, however the editing was badass. I know it took a long time to edit they way you did. You did a great job, matching the speeds and place the vehicle was in relation to the others!!!! Great job
Thanks man
I second that!!!
Thank you sir 🙏🙏
GAME CHANGER!!! This is going to keep people from having to cut holes in their bed to get the performance of a mid-travel suspension. Truly awesome!
Exactly. This is a great way to increase suspension performance without getting mid travel and still be able to use it as a truck. Just seeing how little squat Cesar truck had too while towing was impressive
The fact that this basically unlocks the adjustability of the system on top of the faster processing power is such a game changer... it was also good to see that they have planned for future upgrading. Honestly I'm sold LOL great vid bro!
Thanks man. The tech blew us away too. It’s what this tech should have been when Fox and ford first launched it
It’s pretty damm amazing
I have been on a binge watching the channel from the first episode till now over the last 3 weeks and have learned so much! Thank you so much for the great information! This latest episode was wonderfully done. All this has taken my ideas of what to do with my Raptor in a completely different direction than I use to think. You have exposed weaknesses in the trucks I never knew existed and offered real world solutions and fixes. I almost feel like a cheat getting to learn from the things you have tried over the years.
Thanks man. This is the main purpose of the channel. Have others learn from out experiences and mistakes
Another AWESOME video! … The in-depth review on shock performance and rebuilding was on point. … My favorite clip was when you decided not to trade the “Roosh” for a Gen2. 😂😎
Lol. Hard to go back down to the Gen2 after experiencing mid travel Gen1.
FINALLY!!!! I was looking for this kind of video. Asked many, but didn't really answered my question. I think I made up my mind!!! Thank you so much brother
Anytime man. We wanted to see what it could do and it blew us away. Let them know we sent you so we can do more videos with them
Definitely want something like this for my 19 scab. Thanks for posting
The system will really wake up the capabilities of your live valves
Getting Take Off Live Valve's revalved at SDI and retrofitting my Gen1 with this. Excited to see the results, speciallly for my dual purpose overland and baja style runs. Having the ability to fine tune the shocks for this, is going to be awesome! Can't wait! By the way, I heard that you offered @TheWhalen to shake out our bed rack! (Xtrusion Overland), that would be a good video! lol.
Yeah, the SDI system is great for all applications and adjustable to make the truck change out easy from overlanding and prerunning.
And yeah man. Bed rail mounted racks notoriously fall apart on the trails down here. We need to give his rack a proper test down here on some fast trails.
Wish I had time to have this setup on my rig for Cabo next month. This looks like an amazing upgrade opportunity for any of the G2 guys live valve or not. Can't wait to see a G1 with this setup.
wow! amazing video fantastic production and videography , the things they can do today is impressive as hell , thank you :) .
Thanks man. And they are working to add the tech to more vehicles and applications
Holy fuck this has to be the best idea ever. The difference is insane!
Yeah, it’s very impressive.
Your Gen1 made that look FLAT!
Very cool vid. I'm almost sold on the Live Valve revalve kit, I just can't believe SDI can do it better than Ford and Fox engineers.... but I just saw it with my own eyes... yeah I'm sold.
Right!! My truck with $30-40k worth of suspension looked about the same as stock Eclick truck. It was impressive.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Update: I bought it with the revalve and I've had it for a couple of months. NIGHT & DAY DIFFERENCE. Hitting bumps now I could never hit at speed before. So much more control, composure, and comfort... it's hard to explain.
Lol. That was my first reaction to the system. My brain could not comprehend what I was seeing. It’s what live valve should have been from the start
Great video, now I get to wait until they have the gen 1 option. I think it is a great option for someone that uses the truck for more then off road with a push of a bottom. I definitely like the rear load option.
Gen1 option will be order-able soon. But you will need to replace the front shock bucket (KHC makes a kit) and you will need take off shocks. Take off shocks may also need the solenoid too. SDI can help you with the system, and the solenoids. They are still planning take off shocks but plenty around still for sale.
Your comparison videos are the kind I've always wanted to do but never had the time to make happen.
This is what i had expected out of the live valve shocks to begin with to be honest. This would be an ideal upgrade for my 2017, as the pogo behavior on rebound is my biggest complaint with the stock shocks.
Totally agree. I expected live valve to be like this at release and was so disappointed by their behavior on my 20 raptor. Glad to see a company really wake up the Live Valve tech and show what’s possible. And rebound control is the most impressive part. Was waiting for someone to point it out. Thanks man
Good video. I live in Lake Elsinore and had no idea about this place, very interesting.
Yeah man. Just found out about them ourselves and we had to see it for ourselves. Blown away
Pretty interesting tech. It’s the future. Icon just releasing their (CDEV) this weekend. It collects information at 1000Xs per second. Would like to see a side by side of two but I imagine it will be awhile before someone has a full ICON (CDEV)kit in the wild.
I saw that too and saw a few things that would worry me. Eclick has a 8 axis sensor, while icon has 6 axis.
Icon claims 1000 calculations, but their ecu and sensor are much smaller and combined. Either the sensor is much smaller and not as accurate, or there is something up with the icon system.
The sensor is key to the performance of these systems. It’s why the stock systems are so slow. Icons sensors and ecu combined makes me thing they are using a much smaller sensor.
Lastly, the sensor location. E click made a big deal about mounting the sensor as close to center as possible to get the most accurate reading of what the truck is doing. Icon put their sensor at the front. Near the radiator. Accuracy and heat are going to be a problem for the icon system.
One more thing. IPhone controlled kind of sucks. It should have a dedicated controller. Last thing I need is to wait for a connection or not have access to my trail maps just so I could see what it’s doing or make a change.
Biggest difference in my mind is one product adapts to the stock shocks while icons kit controls only their own shocks. Two very very different price points!
Yeah, very true. Will be interested to see how the icon system compares on live trails. Those guys usually do a good job. Though of heard a lot of complaints from shock rebuilders though
I made my decision. Going to find some live valve take offs and get this system.
Let them know our video helped you make your decision so we can do more videos with them.
Honestly, we need suspension upgrades on our raptor since the rear shocks need a rebuilt since we are going to get a chase rack so it is very much needed, they have only 68,000 Miles on them so it's time! Anyways very nice video!
Oh wow. Definitely overdue.
I'm thinking of taking Fox 3.0s and having the eclick mated up to it for my '17. That should make for a huge upgrade over factory. Maybe it will keep me away from mid travel money.
🤣 You’ll be able to keep up with them without the crazy cost.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad it's all about finding value right? More money more problems, haha.
Great video!!!! Crazy how cool that system works!
Mind has a hard time grasping it all. How can a stock truck do that.
That was pretty awesome. My Gen 2 isn’t live valve, so that would be an interesting addition.
Yep. Really wakes up the capabilities of the truck
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Looks like it! Thanks!
I love the factory looking wiring harness. If I had a raptor I would go with this. I hate companies that offer a great product then have horrible wiring.
Totally agree. Skimping on a wiring is a good sign of cost cutting
Nice product I’m impressed
It blew us away man.
Keep us updated on the GEN 1.
Looking forward to the white truck FRS video as it would be hard to give up the LV 3.0's
We will have it up here soon.
Great video as always
Thanks man 🙏🙏
What 😳😳😳I just did the shock exchange 😲 2 weeks ago at forged off-road smh ... 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾
...🙄🙄🙄 rides good thou ... better than stock ... so I won't complain .
Forged does a great job at shock rebuilding for sure.
Wooow I have an Expedition, could be great have this on it...
Right!! So cool to see these guys thinking beyond just Raptors and Jeeps
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad here comes before and after talking about active suspension... It's a revolution. I am surprised how well it works...
I’m sold! 🤘
It’s a great solution.
Was the guy in the Baja HQ shirt named Alan?
I suck with names man. It may have been. I don’t know.
How can live valve respond to commands from the factory and SDI simultaneously?
They are not. SDI Eclik takes over the shocks. The system also gets inputs from the truck and takes that into account. But Eclik does all the control of the shocks and it’s way, better and faster than stock
Nice option. I have noticed my 2021 has a significant better ride with the new rear setup compared to my 2017 and 2019 raptor. I think this could still be a great option for even 2021
Yeah I think so too. The Eclick system still does
More calculations than the Gen3 so definitely room for improvement.
Ram trx!!!!!
Lol. Talked to them about that. They can definitely improve performance, but the current stock shocks lies to the reservoir are too small and won’t allow enough fluid to show an improvement over stock. The shocks would need some major mods like larger lines or whole new shocks to really improve the stock performance
Any plans on expanding the system to other vehicles, like maybe the TRX?!?!
Tons of plans and we talking to him about on the video. Right now they are working on Gen1 raptors and tacomas. They also working on a way to add LV to any shock with a remote reservoir.
They have looked at the TRX, BUT the stock shocks cannot be supported. The lines feeding the reservoir are too small and don’t allow enough oil to move thru to make a difference with their system. Major changes to the shocks or new shocks would be needed to improve the TRX.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad oh wow! Thanks for all the great information, yeah definitely needs some improvements for all that weight.
Do they have a dealer here in Michigan yet or around this area? I would love to have my gen 1 shocks rebuilt by these guys
Not yet, but they are working on it. They are very response social media to have your questions answered and help guide you. Keep in mind too that for a Gen1, the shock bucket will need to be replaced to support the Gen2 live Valves.
i think im missing something fundamental. How does this not affect the stock valves? I thought the Raptor modes change its own live valve?
So I think you need to rewatch the video again.
This system does not replace the stock valves on the shocks. It takes over control of them, speeds them up, and applies SDIs algorithms that improves the performance of the truck.
If you look at the side by side clips of a stock Raptor and then the SDI controlled raptor and the performance gains are HUGE. Truck is more level, less rebound, and can run faster over obstacles.
So I think you really should watch the video clips of the runs side by side. And then watch a follow up video where we showed that stock shocks with SDIs Eclick outperform the fox FRS a shocks
Just one more reason why i need a Raptor 🤦🏻♂️
Help me Jesus! 😂
Lol, they making these systems for just about any truck now. Already added live valve to Jeeps and Soon you’ll see live valves on tacomas
Where exactly is this testing spot at, I want to give it a try?
Sorry man, not my spot to share and we don’t want a ton of people using it and getting it closed down since it’s in the middle of the city.
Is the mount on the A-pillar sturdy and does it look clean when your sitting in the driver seat? I have seen the JL on the shifter and it looks very clean. Thanks for the video thumbs up!
Very sturdy. If you look at the in cab clips, it did not move. They made sure to pick a nice strong mounting point for it
And the Jeep knob is 3d printer carbon fiber!! Really badass.
Thanks good info.
This would be cool if they can do this for normal F150
You should actually watch the video then.
2018 Raptor that looked better than all the trucks here did not have live valves from the factory. They added them and are controlling them with SDIs e-click system.
A stock F150 (2015-2020) can use this system and they confirmed that 2009-2014 can also. All you need is the system, a set of take off live valves. Gen1 raptors will also need KHC shock buckets. Ford F150s will need the new shock bucket, take off Raptor suspension, rear shock mount reinforcement or a mid travel kit to support the live valves.
So it’s doable. And we talked about it several times in the video.
What gear do you use to film? I can see a hand mount of some type. It is easier that way? Why not on a tripod? ~Thanks
iPhone with a hand mounts it makes holding it much easier. You get a better hold, less shaking.
We did use a tripod for the slow motion shots.
But for everything else, it’s all freehand to add some dynamic and life to the video. Static shots get boring and people tune out. You need some motion sometimes to keep everyone engaged.
Great video man 👍. Any idea when this will be available for the regular F150?
I think it’s available now. But to put live valves on an F150 takes a lot of take off parts and reinforcement to do it
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad why is that?
You can’t just take a live valve shock from the raptor and put it into an F150. Shock bucket is too short, stock suspension is not wide enough, and the frame needs some reinforcement.
You basically need the arms, spindle, and everything off a Raptor, a new shock bucket from KHC, and the rear shock mounts need to be reinforced. It’s a lot of work as no one really makes an F-150 specific live valve shock yet.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad the truck is getting new McNeil +5 front fenders, fender liners, paint, bedliner and bedside supports. That happens in November. After that I'll be ready to get her dirty.
What suspension you running?
Alot of body roll on uneven road for the stock trucks . How was their truck against ur's
Helio where r these guys located ?
One of the clips in the 50 mph test was the SDI truck against mine. They were practically identical. Blew me away.
They are located in Southern California.
Is canbus integration included for GEN 2 RAPTOR?
Not sure I understand your question. The system is integrated into the truck and gets details from the truck such as speed, throttle position, brake position and a ton of other outputs.
What do you mean by CanBus integration?
So if you have a 2017 Raptor you will still need the fox live valve shocks on top of the eclick?
Yes, take off live valves at the minimum and they usually go for about $1000 for all 4 last time I checked.
You also need live valve solenoids. Some take offs don’t come with them, SDI can provide those with their kit
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad where could I find the take off live vales? Any links?
Facebook marketplace, Craigslist, forums. You could even calls shops like SVC. They usually have a few take off sets they are trying to sell for their customers
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thank you will do, how should I look them up? Just "ford Raptor take off live valves"
Looks for Ford Live Valve, Fox Live Valve, Raptor Live Valve.
Eclick on a 2020 raptor or buy a 2023 with IRS?
What’s is IRS? Not familiar with this acronym
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Independent Rear Suspension. Which I guess it's not IRS since the axle is still a single axle, just no leaf springs
The correct term is Linked rear end. That’s why I could not figure out the acronym. The lightning has a IRS setup. Raptor and f150 is a solid rear axle and it’s a linked rear end.
As for your original question I would recommend a 3rd option. gen3 linked rear end with SDI Eclick. SDI got so much performance out of that suspension with their system, we don’t have enough space to get up to speed and stop at the test course that we have to do the next video out in the desert.
Did you do all the editing yourself?
Yeah man. All my editing. Still got a lot to learn with editing but I try and practice and try new things with it when ever I can.
Oh ok. Looks really good. I’m just trying to figure how to edit
Find a software you like, like premier pro, or Final Cut Pro and just start practicing. I use Final Cut Pro. And it’s taken me years to figure out my workflow and I still have a lot to learn.
Where r these guys located ?
Lake Elsinore CA
Nothing really to add, besides just how much a difference quality shock tuning can make.
Agreed. Shock tuning combined with this system really wakes up the live valve to what it should have been from the factory. SDI is showing everyone what’s possible.
Where’s his shop?
This is SDI and they are a manufacturer based out of Lake Elsinore. They don’t do installs unfortunately.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad thanks for the reply. I was split between building a new Mohave and a used Raptor. I’m looking at a 2019 raptor now.
Do yourself a favor man and pick the raptor. Way more versatile platform, it comfortable, it’s has great power, and is capable out of the box with no mods. Takes a lot to take a Mojave and go rock crawling and be fun. We had a JL for a while and I hated driving it.
@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad i agree. I was looking at the Mojave to build into a desert runner. I was going to add a supercharger and upgrade the suspension. It looks like the raptors are finally coming down in price. Raptors are better out of the box!
Helio will still break the e click set up.
🤣🤣 the system is solid. But like anything else. With more capability comes more maintenance. So I would keep a close eye on ball joint wear like a mid travel truck to keep the truck running strong and fast