How to Cure Salmon Roe for Bait When Fishing for Salmon and Steelhead
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Salmon roe can be a fantastic bait when fishing for chinook, coho and chum salmon. Before using it, salmon roe needs to be cured. This video tutorial explains the most basic salmon roe curing technique with @TeamPautzke.
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Thank you fishingwithrod, for the curing tips. Hope you guys make more videos like this one in the future...
I usually take it out from the freezer the night before my fishing trip. I open it up from the wraps, let it air dry some more as it defrosts. By morning, when I am heading out, my roe should be ready to be used. I usually keep it out of the freezer if I am fishing again several days later. If the second trip is going to be awhile (a week or more), I store them back in the freezer. Refreezing damages your roe, so don't do it too often. I rarely refreeze more than once.
Hi rod! paztuke is best cured for 3 days instead of how long you did it because when you cure it for longer, the cure is absorbed back into the roe which makes it tougher and it also milts more than your dying method.
awesome video lol in nz we are prohibited from using salmon or trout eggs for bait. most methods must be used with lures to catch them. the eggs looks like great bait to use to catch trouts or salmon
For rivers, it is common practice to gut your fish by the river bank but make sure you throw all gills and guts into the water instead of leaving them on dry land. When left on dry bank, bears may come down to feed, which can be a safety issue for anglers using the area after you. Always bleed your fish right away to preserve the quality of the fish. In the fall, you can leave your bled fish in the water while fishing. In the summer, it is best to store them in a cooler as the river is too warm.
Geat video thanks alot. So after we cured the roe, we can put it on the hook and use as bottom fishing? or theres a setting for fishing with roe. If yes, can you please make a video about it ? thanks a lot:)
I have seen people do this a little differently. Instead of pulling the eggs out and drying, they leave the eggs in the juice until the eggs reabsorb the juice and dry out. It seems as if you are pulling the eggs out before they have a chance to draw the juice back in. Have you tried leaving the eggs in the juice a lot longer?
Awesome video! I'm learning to catch these species including steelhead also. What length pole is sufficient for this type of fishing?
+lifeson241 anywhere from 6'6" to 8'. its really up to you.
I personally don't put borax on my roe before freezing but many people do. I do however, put borax on my roe once it is defrosted and ready to use.
@fishingwithrod Thanks. The icon for this video shows your set-up, so it will be nice to have a follow-up instructional when you have time. What videocamera do you film with? Excellent clarity...equally as clear as your instructions.
when air drying . do you get enough excess juice to reuse on other baits for a cure or added scent to baits like shrimp or prawns ????
@DMwrestlingLC After curing, I like to wrap them up in food wrap and store them in the freezer. They are good in the freezer for at least a year. When I want to use some, I take it out from the freezer the day before, let it defrost and dry a bit overnight, then it's good to go the next day. To make your roe last longer, you can also wrap and freeze first, take them out the next day and vacuum pack them and return them into the freezer, but that's unnecessary if you go through your bait fast.
Roe bags are usually used when fishing in waters with stronger current, so the bait can stay on the hook longer. We use roe bags at times, usually for steelhead fishing. For salmon fishing, I seem to do better by simply hooking pieces of roe onto the hook. If you want to use roe bags, you can simply cut these skeins of roe into small pieces and tie them into mesh bags. You can also buy individual single eggs for tying into bags.
You certainly can dry it as it is and use it. The curing process allows the bait to last longer both in the freezer and on your hook while being fished. The colouring process makes the bait more visible, therefore possibly more productive fishing results.
interesting :) when i use salmon roe for trout fishing i always just dried it on a piece of drift wood until it kind of congeals
@indyman151 I'm not entirely sure, but it should be around $10 per bottle. Best to check your local tackle store.
There are different ways of curing of course. When the eggs are kept in the container, they indeed absorb the juice, which is part of the curing process. We just prefer to take the eggs out of the container after a short period of time (1 hour) and dry it to the firmness preferred for fishing.
Rod, would roe work by just casting it out in a pool (near the current) and just letting it sit on the bottom without attending it?
Rod, how do you bait the hook once you are ready to go? Do you use spawn sacks?
I have a quick question, I am just starting out fishing this year and I am just wondering where should bleed and gut my fish? do I do It at the location or do I wait until I get home? I usually fish at the Chilliwack/vedder river, fraser river and mill lake/hicks lake
thank you
Hello rod, thanks for the great video,
I see people making spawn sac, which they put the roe into the paper(roe bag?) and tie it up with a majic threat, then they hook the whole thing on the hook (roe with paper). Do we have to hook it up with the roe bag, or just cure the roe like what you did and just hook a little piece on it? what are the differrent?
Do you let eggs soak in pautzke nectar after defrosting from freezer before using them ? Or does or even matter?
@losaturn90 The eggs are fine after one hour of curing, the drying process is more important IMO. I usually dry for at least 12 hours (sometimes 24 hours, depending on humidity) to the texture that I like. These eggs in the videos were indeed used on the Vedder and were excellent for coho salmon.
when you freeze the eggs, does it effect the eggs? and when it is defrosted, is it on the metal rack?
Having it in the fridge is great, but if I start doing that I'd be living on the street in no time. ;) The alternative would be to buy a second fridge dedicated for bait. I usually air dry mine in the garage during the fall/winter months so it is actually quite cold already so the result is fairly similar. Thanks.
Excellent video, instructions were very well explained, thanks
@LordMikkell I've used both and one advantage I really like about Pautzke is that the cure does not stain your hands, which is a big plus for me.
the best technique is kinda a combination of both of that,you let it soak back up the juice but then u let them air dry in the fridge on paper towel.Ive found that you get both a firmer drier egg but also maximum scent that way since the juice is locked inside the egg
I use the same cure but it has yet to work for me. Going out in about half hour though to try some eggs i cured for coho. Great video too.
could you use the same cure for Loose salmon eggs ?
when use the eggs fir salmon in a mid/fast moving stream do you use a bobber/float or just the roe on the hook with the egg note and the one float fake egg?
if i let them drain longer will they dry up better cuz, i do alot of drift fishing and i always have trouble with soft roe
How well do those eggs fish, after a one hour cure? Usually when I use Fire Cure, I let it cure over night and they soak up the juice. Were these the same eggs you were fishing on the Vedder video?
@callamBoss Absolutely. You concern is definitely valid if there aren't too many fish. No fish should be harvested if the practice is unsustainable. And the practice of killing fish only for eggs is definitely a no no. Luckily here in BC we have many salmon runs that offer harvest fisheries. We also have fisheries where only catch and release is practiced because the number of fish returning is not high enough for harvest.
Yeah, I use the pink buzz bomb lure to catch pink salmon in saltwater but I only got one so far by luck out so many tries. I'm thinking if I should put salmon eggs to the hook to attract the salmon? I've been using the Mike's scented oil but it doesn't seem to work.
Awesome video thanks 👍😎
For urban lakes such as Mill Lake, you should still bleed your fish when caught but clean your fish when you arrive home instead of at the lake. These lakes are used regularly by local residents and other visitors so they may not appreciate seeing fish guts being left at the lake. For Hicks Lake, perhaps ask the provincial park caretakers to see how they like you to dispose your fish waste. Good luck!
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great video! always wondered how to do this thanks!
Hey rod. Do you put any borax on your roe before freezing or before using your roe?Thanks
How long should I keep it out from the freezer when I want to use it for fishing ?
Nice video...but I think its important to butterfly the skeins out ward as much as you can without ripping the membrane.I like to add a little canning salt or sea salt to to the skeins also, it seems to toughen them up just a little extra so your not just feeding the trout everytime you cast. Plus it doesnt hurt to add krill scent or some anise.
whats the whole idea of curing them? do they harden up a little bit after that so its easier to fish with them?
it gives the eggs a scent and makes them hard and stronger and it gives them a smell fish like
id imagine so
i'm new to salmon fishing...so you use salmon eggs to catch salmon, correct?
what is the shelf life of the cured eggs, frozen or vacuum seal
@jessekid86 If the eggs are falling out one by one instead of stuck on one skein, then those eggs do not need to be cured. Instead, they can be tied into sacs, which work just as well. The reason eggs are falling out like that is the fish was almost ready to spawn. In the future if you encounter one like that, best to let it go so the fish can spawn.
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There are many ways to catch salmon. Using salmon eggs under a float in rivers is just one technique. You can also use spoons and spinners. You can also fly fish for them with streamers.
After curing roe, do they harden?
How long you leaving them in juice ...thanks.
Is it ok to put the fresh roe to the freezer? thank you
Excellent explanation! Thanks!
would you be able to hatch that roe?
Where can i buy that powder for curing....thankyou!
That depends on where you are located. You should check out www.pautzke.com and go through the dealer list to find a store near you.
Another great clip. Thanks man!
Hi Rod,
Do you which shop carry Roe Cure?
Thanks,
Charles
I watched a video that was on pautzke's youtube channel and it has a couple videos on how to cure with fire cure. It basically says to leave the eggs in the juice so it can re absorb the juice.
You don't need to put bait on your Buzz Bomb or any other lure, it'd just fall off the hook right away anyway. Lures are designed to attract fish by their movement. Bait is used by either anchoring on the bottom or suspended under a float.
@XenoDragun Pretty long. I've had some frozen and used it in the following season (or even two seasons) without any issues.
Super help. Thanks
You're welcome!
Nice video Rod, thanks :)
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Awesome. very informative. thanks for the upload!
@callamBoss With 20 million + pink salmon returning last season, a daily quota of four fish for each recreational fisherman during the few weeks of opening allows the general public to enjoy fishing and eating their own catches (as oppose to buying commercially caught fish or farmed fish) while ensuring the run remains sustainable in the future. If you are concerned about killing each individual fish, then perhaps piercing a hook into a fish's mouth is not the ideal activity for you.
Great info Rod thanks for showing.ATB Steve.
I have heard that you will have flat eggs that don't catch much fish if you drain the liquid. I have heard that the liquid will be reabsorbed after about 20 hours, and will plump up the egg, while still being firm. Which way is correct?
+SouperScrotum your way is correct, the eggs have to juice out then reabsorb. after that then you can dry them out, put a little bit of borax on them after just to keep from sticking to much and your good
Nice video man!
Thanks for an exelent understandeble vid. I will try to apply this for my seatrouthunting here in Emån Sweden :)
Maby even at the coast.
skitfiske from sweden :P
Where do I get the salt?
What size hooks for night fishing?
No idea.
@tromboneJTS You can tie a piece into a spawn sack, but usually I prefer to use them as it is by securing it to a bait loop on the hook. There'll be another video soon that shows how it is done. :) Thanks.
thank you, very helpful
@yenghawj The curing process hardens it slightly because it draws water out of the eggs, but the hardening process happens during drying. How hard you want the eggs to be, depends on how long you dry them for.
When im curing my roe i just poor 2 packs of koolaid on to 1 membrain and then put jn tupaware with alot of borax and it turns out fine no mess no fuss
Thanks bro. Nice vid, I really needed this info and will make good use of it. :)
When adult salmon are returning to rivers for spawning, females will have eggs. You first need to know how to tell the difference between a male and a female. You can do this by going to our website. Once you determine that you have a female salmon, you can tell that she has eggs by feeling the abdomen, which should be fairly big.
Do I leave salmon eggs in juice or not?
Nice vid Rod.....I like it.
can you cure the eggs with borax and then freeze them
What do I do with salmon eggs
how much is it
Don't worry, we also get a separate batch (of better quality eggs) for that purpose every year.
@tkoking2010 You're welcome, glad you've found it helpful. :)
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When i was watching the patzkes video on how to cure eggs with their cure they said to leave all the juice in the eggs because the eggs soak it up again
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what about the step of letting the eggs re-absorb the juice - usually a 48 hr wait with them in the fridge...
Good point. :)
I do, for awhile, before it is taken out for drying.
Same method for krill?
With krill, just sprinkle the Fire Cure into a container, shake them around, leave for 30 minutes. After 30 minutes, Drain liquid, pad dry krill on paper towel until the firmness you want them to be, and you're ready to go! :)
ty sir!
That was good!
@Plumpkinman812 We do that instead too sometimes.
@pacogarcia7991 Yep, the amount of drying time really depends on how soft/firm/hard you prefer your roe to be. If I am drift fishing in waters where stronger current exists, then I definitely prefer harder pieces of roe so they'll stay on the hook longer.
Rod, have you ever tried this curing method with roe that has been frozen?
I personally have not. It certainly could be done, but the results are definitely better when roe is cured while fresh.
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Rod, I caught a Chinook in the salt chuck yesterday and it had some roe. The roe looks under developed as the berries are somewhat small. Is this still okay to cure or would it be best to use it for something different?
If they are too small or underdeveloped, then they don't really work that well. You can give it a go. Most people just discard those and feed them to the sea.
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It's kind of missing a pretty important component to complete the process of fertilization... Plus those eggs were no where near ready to be fertilized.
You should let the eggs reabsorb the liquid
if your fishing around the mouth of a river it is a pretty good method to use. If your going to fish a pool. i suggest you float it down because if it just sits there theres a higher chance of the fish completely missing the roe or not taking it because it is simply still. Thats pretty unnatural to the fish. Its just my opinion
Freezing fresh roe is not a good idea as it is too soft and has too much fluid, which often lead to freezer burn. When you defrost it, it'd just look like a big piece of goo.
Borax works the best too
from my expeirience the roe will actually burst most of the time with air drying so i actually just freeze them.